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priteau#startmeeting blazar09:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug  8 09:00:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'09:00
priteau#chair hiro-kobayashi09:00
openstackCurrent chairs: hiro-kobayashi priteau09:00
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priteauHello09:00
hiro-kobayashiHi!09:00
priteau#topic Roll call09:01
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hiro-kobayashio/09:01
priteaumasahito cannot join this week due to travel09:01
tejaswio/09:01
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hiro-kobayashihi tejaswi09:01
tejaswihi hiro-kobayashi09:02
priteauHi hiro-kobayashi, tejaswi, bertys, hrito09:02
bertyshi all09:02
hiro-kobayashihi09:02
hritohi09:02
priteauToday's agenda is at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Blazar#Agenda_for_Aug_8_201709:02
priteau1. Patch review09:02
priteau2. Denver PTG09:03
priteau3. Sydney Summit09:03
priteau4. AOB09:03
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priteau#topic Patch review09:03
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priteauThe team is actively working on the Pike release09:03
priteauWe have the following blueprints targeted for Pike09:04
priteau#link https://launchpad.net/blazar/+milestone/0.3.009:04
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priteauIn particular we have patches from four blueprints that need review09:05
priteauInstance reservation is almost fully merged, but there are still a couple of patches for blazar-nova: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/new-instance-reservation09:05
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priteauOne of them is failing Jenkins tests, I assume that masahito will update it soon09:05
priteauhiro-kobayashi is working on the Horizon dashboard: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/climate-dashboard09:06
hiro-kobayashithanks for reviewing my patches09:06
priteauAnd hiro-kobayashi is also working on two other blueprints: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/on-end-options and https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/update-reserved-capacity09:07
priteauJust three patches left to merge for these two09:07
hiro-kobayashifor update-reserved-capcity, I will push one more patch09:07
hiro-kobayashiThat's for blazarclient09:08
priteauOK09:08
hiro-kobayashifor other blueprints, I've already pushed all of patches09:08
priteauExcellent09:08
priteauOn my side I am continuing to push bug fixes discovered while operating Blazar in Chameleon09:09
priteauI would like these fixes to be included in Pike to make it a solid release09:09
bertys+109:09
hiro-kobayashithanks a lot!09:09
priteauIf you can, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491583/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491562/09:09
priteauAnd https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490498/ as well but it's less important (Python 3 compatibility)09:09
priteauAnd it's not fully passing Python 3 checks yet, just fixing one class of errors09:10
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hiro-kobayashiI'll review them in this week09:10
priteauThanks hiro-kobayashi09:10
priteauAnything else to mention for Pike?09:10
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hiro-kobayashihrito: How about your patches?09:11
hritoI pushed a patch which enables multi properties in blazarclient. if you have time, please review it!09:12
priteauThis is the link for hrito's patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486508/09:12
priteauI will review it this week09:12
hiro-kobayashiShould them be merged in Pike?09:12
priteauBecause it is a bug fix it should be considered for Pike09:13
hiro-kobayashiokay, I'll review them in this week09:13
priteauWe're making progress towards a good release for Pike09:14
hiro-kobayashidefinitely :-)09:15
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priteauIf we've finished covered Pike, let's move on to the next agenda item09:15
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priteau#topic Denver PTG09:16
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priteauWe have a virtual meeting planned for the week of the PTG09:17
priteau#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/blazar-ptg-queens09:17
priteauPlease add yourself to attendance list09:17
priteauAnd comment on proposed topics09:18
priteauhiro-kobayashi: Anything to add about the Denver PTG meeting?09:18
hiro-kobayashiNothing from my side09:19
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priteauOK09:19
priteau#topic Sydney Summit09:20
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priteauFor the Sydney Summit, I believe vote for presentations has ended now.09:21
priteauAnyone knows when the program will be available?09:21
hiro-kobayashiI'm not sure09:21
hiro-kobayashiMaybe in this month?09:22
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priteauPossibly09:22
priteauhiro-kobayashi: you will be in Sydney, anything to discuss about it?09:23
priteauI won't be able to travel there09:23
hiro-kobayashiIf our proposals are accepted, let's discuss details of our talks09:24
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hiro-kobayashiWe'll plan to show a demo of blazar, we'll share demo scenario, maybe next month09:26
priteauSounds good09:26
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hiro-kobayashiPlease cross your fingers for acceptance ;-)09:26
hiro-kobayashiNothing more about Sydney Summit from my side09:28
priteauWe will discuss more in the coming weeks09:28
priteau#topic AOB09:28
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priteauAnything else to discuss?09:29
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hiro-kobayashiNothing from my side09:29
priteauIf that's all, we can finish the meeting early and go back to patch review ;-)09:30
hiro-kobayashiOK09:30
hritome neither09:31
priteauThanks everyone for joining!09:31
hiro-kobayashiThanks! good bye!09:32
hritobye09:32
priteau#endmeeting09:32
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felipemonteiro__#startmeeting murano13:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug  8 13:00:38 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is felipemonteiro__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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felipemonteiro__#topic Roll Call13:00
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felipemonteiro__hi learnmore, looks like today's meeting will be brief13:07
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felipemonteiro__#topic Open Discussion13:08
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learnmoreYes, I agree.  I don't have anything.  I was just checking in to see how things are going.13:10
learnmoreHave you gotten approval for the Murano Project update talk ?13:11
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felipemonteiro__learnmore: no problem. only update from me is that i'll be at the ptg because management has decided to send me.13:11
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learnmoreFor the ptg, will you be trying to get more folks interested in Murano?13:13
felipemonteiro__don't believe so, i think the community is voting on talks, though project updates might undergo a different approval process13:13
felipemonteiro__the ptg isn't really somewhere where you evangelize about murano; that's mostly the purpose of the summit and hence why we want to do a project update13:14
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learnmoreok...what is your role at the ptg wrt Murano?13:15
learnmoreWe are sending 2 people to the ptg.   Perhaps, they could meet you.13:16
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felipemonteiro__they're sending me mostly due to at&t-specific things i've been working on. wrt to murano, we'll lay out the roadmap for queens, either in person or virtually or both, depending on attendance.13:17
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felipemonteiro__it'll be zhurong though who'll lead it; i thought it would be good for him to take over as ptl, since i'm already being pulled in so many different directions13:18
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learnmoreYes, I remember last meeting there was a discussion about a virtual ptg for Murano.   So now it might be in person in Denver.   I assume zhurong will be attending then.  Does he work for at&t also?13:20
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learnmoreI believe Paul Bourke will be attending this ptg for Oracle.  I would like him to attend any Murano meet-ups in Denver.13:21
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felipemonteiro__zhurong works for zte, a chinese telecom. he also works in china, so that makes his presence at denver rather onerous; travelling out to the midwest would be a tough flight to say the least.13:25
felipemonteiro__that being said, i'll have to ping him about it13:25
learnmoreok.13:26
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learnmoreDo you have any ideas/thoughts about the Queens roadmap?  What would you like to see happen for Queens?13:27
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felipemonteiro__learnmore: personally i'd like microversioning for murano apis, then cleaning up some of the apis, documenting them better, and making murano's api stable as per: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/tags/assert_supports-api-interoperability.html13:33
learnmoreSounds reasonable and definitely worth doing.13:35
felipemonteiro__there are plenty of administrative/maintenance sort of things which i've already pointed out need to be done to improve project stability on the dashboard side, and i think everyone agrees on that13:35
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learnmoreI am glad that I joined today.   Good information.  I think we can probably end the meeting now.13:39
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felipemonteiro__learnmore: thanks for joining, sounds good to me13:41
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felipemonteiro__#endmeeting13:42
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Aug  8 13:42:34 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)13:42
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2017/murano.2017-08-08-13.00.html13:42
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2017/murano.2017-08-08-13.00.txt13:42
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2017/murano.2017-08-08-13.00.log.html13:42
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catherineD#startmeeting refstack19:00
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catherineD#link meeting agenda and notes,  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-08-0819:01
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catherineDLet's start19:03
catherineD#topic Run tool to update the verification field19:03
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catherineDmguiney: any thing you want to bring up?19:04
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catherineDif not let's move on ..19:06
mguineynope, not really19:06
mguiney(sorry)19:06
catherineD#topic subunit result files upload19:06
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catherineDpvaneck: has done some investigation on the impact to RefStack if we save the subunit data to the RefStack db19:07
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catherineD#link Please read  Paul's comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487185/19:08
mguineyexcellent, thank you19:08
catherineDIMO Mirgration of RefStack data to new tables is not desirable19:09
luzCo/19:09
hogepodgecatherineD: pvaneck: so your recommendation is to use two databases?19:09
mguineyi did add a suggestion to the newest version of the spec about how to handle that19:10
catherineDmguiney: the new suggestion is to handle migration of the the data?19:12
catherineDpvaneck: if we create the version table ahead of time will this prevent the creation of existing (2nd version)  table on the  future db update if any?19:13
mguineythe proposed solution in my spec is to create aspmall tool to migrate existing data if the db already exists19:13
mguineyand to have the alternate table name as a flag in conf19:13
mguiney(which is a feature that i am testing and shortly planning on pushing to gerrit)19:14
pvanecksince the table will be already created, alembic wont try to create it again, and will just pull the current version from there19:14
pvaneckid prefer to keep everything in the same db19:15
catherineDPersonally, if I need to migrate existing RefStack data ... I would prefer to use a separated DB for subunit2sql data19:15
mguineythat way people who dont want to set up their db to handle subunit data can do so, but if they decide to change their minds later on, they can run a utility script to migrate the existing data to a differently named table19:15
catherineDI would keep everything in the same db if there is a solution that I do not need to migrate the RefStack data19:16
pvaneckwhat data is migrating exactly19:17
mguineyjust the data in the alembic_version table19:17
catherineDif a new version of existing RefStack tables are created we need to migrate the data to those new table .. right?19:17
mguineyyes, but the only colliding table is the alembic_version table19:18
catherineDmguiney: if I understand pvaneck: 's comment corectly all new version of existing tables will be created not the the alembic_version table19:19
catherineDpvaneck: do I understand your comments correctly?19:20
pvaneckcatherineD: the only new table need is the refstack_alembic_version, once you have that connected with the refstack backend, then we can freely use subunit2sql in the same datbase19:20
mguiney^19:20
hogepodgeThat seems like the solution to pursue19:20
mguineythat was the understanding i had as well19:21
mguineyapologies for the lack of clear communication19:21
pvaneckso i think a tool to handle this is fine19:21
mguineyawesome. I will start on that19:21
catherineDok19:21
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luzCok, I'm not familiar with the solution at all, so I'll wait for mguiney tool to take a look19:22
mguineyit shouldn't be too major. Likewise, i am nearly ready to push the patch which will allow new refstack instances to custom name their alembic version table19:22
mguiney(testing testing)19:22
mguineythis will be an update the the patch mtreinish pushed that will allow us to use his solution without breaking existing dbs19:23
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catherineDpvaneck: mguiney: the test should include a sample (minor)  RefStack DB update to make sure that it works on the next RefStack DB update19:24
mguineyahhh that would make sense19:25
luzC+119:25
catherineD#agreed Still using RefStack DB for the new subunit2sql tables19:26
mguineyexcellent, thank you19:26
catherineDanything else on this topic?19:26
mguineyother than asking y'all to take a look at the spec, not really!19:27
mguiney(and review, of course)19:27
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catherineDmguiney: since we do not exactly which direction we will take ... that is why we have not merged the spec .. i hope it does not prevent you from working on the implementation19:28
mguineyof course not, as mentioned, i am working on the flag, which is the first step19:28
catherineDvia implementation we will have new findings ...19:28
mguineyand when i get that pushed, i will be working on the utility script as well19:28
catherineDthis is not the convetional ways ... but since we are all new to this .. kind of trial and error ..19:28
mguiney(apologies for my new-ness, of course :) )19:29
catherineDmguiney: np thank you for actively working on this19:29
catherineD#topic Pending reviews19:30
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catherineD#link     Add python35 support  (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483999/  )19:30
catherineDluzC: thanks for the update ...19:30
catherineDeveryone please review the new patch19:30
catherineD#link     WIP: Set a custom alembic_version for refstack (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487185/ )19:31
mguineythat one is very much not the version that will be upcoming19:31
mguineythe other version is a bit more functional19:31
catherineDso waiting for a new version for  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487185/19:32
* mguiney nods19:32
catherineDMy thinking is we should not merge this patch until the refstack_alemic_version is crerated in the refstack db in infra19:33
mguiney+119:34
catherineDassuming that we will create tools to create the table ahead of time19:34
catherineDthat means the tools will be created in refstack-puppet?19:34
mguineythe alembic_version migration tool, correct?19:35
catherineDmguiney: yea19:36
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mguineysounds good19:36
pvaneckprobably only needs to be run once. could just get an infra member to do it manually if need be19:36
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catherineD1) create the table 2) migrate the info from the existing table to the newly create table19:37
mguineyyeah, it should only need a single run19:37
catherineDpvaneck: so that mean create the tool in RefStack and have someone in ifra run it?19:38
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mguineyand a change in conf to make sure the db remembers what the table is named19:38
mguineysounds good to me19:38
pvaneckcatherineD: yea, can do that19:40
catherineD#agreed Create a tool in refstack to create the refstack_alembic_version table and migrate the data from the current alembic_verstion table to the newly created table19:40
catherineDmoving on .19:40
catherineD#link     Add UI support for interop schema 2.0 (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484625/ )19:41
catherineDhogepodge: This is the patch to support Interop-WG schema 2.019:41
catherineDeveryone please review ..19:41
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luzCwill do19:42
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catherineD#topic Open discussion19:42
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mguineyo719:42
catherineD#topic candidacy for RefStack PTL (hogepodge)19:42
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hogepodgeIf there aren't any other more qualified candidates, I will run as PTL for RefStack this cycle19:43
catherineDI think today is the last day19:43
catherineDhogepodge: +++19:43
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catherineDThank you!19:43
mguineyhogepodge: ++19:43
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hogepodgeWith full understanding that I'm not qualified as a core contributor, but will focus on transitioning by building the dev team and looking for new governance models if we need to move into a maintenance mode.19:44
catherineDI think you are the best candidate19:44
hogepodgeI didn't want to submit that without the support of the current team, though.19:44
hogepodgeThank you catherineD. You've been a great steward of the project. Thank you for your years of work on it.19:45
catherineDhogepodge: please do ... there are only a few porjects that have no candidate and RefStack is one of them19:45
luzChogepodge: ++19:45
hogepodgeI'll file the candidacy forms today and announce on the mailing list.19:46
catherineDI am so happy that you will lead the team on this journey ...19:46
catherineDhogepodge: Thanks again!  I know the project is in good hands ...19:47
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hogepodgeThanks :-)19:47
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hogepodgeI even meet the technical requirements, with a merged patch. :-D19:47
catherineDI also want to recommend to add mguiney: as core for RefStack19:47
hogepodge+119:47
mguiney:D19:47
catherineDmguiney: have been actively contribute to the project ...19:48
catherineDI will send out and email after the meeting ...19:48
luzC+119:48
pvaneck+119:49
catherineDI guess that is it for today!19:49
catherineDany other topic to discuss?19:50
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catherineDhearing nothing.  I think we can close up for the day19:51
catherineDthank you all!19:51
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catherineD#endmeeting19:51
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mguineyhave a good day, y'alL!19:52
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