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* cdent is here but must get coffee first13:58
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edleafe#startmeeting nova_scheduler14:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Aug  7 14:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler'14:00
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mriedemo/14:00
edleafeAnyone around?14:00
jaypipesno14:00
edleafejaypipes: good!14:01
dtantsurnobody at all14:02
bauzas\o14:02
edleafeHmmm... should we have a meeting, or just keep arguing in -nova?14:02
mriedemlet's get on with it14:02
edleafe#topic Specs & Reviews14:02
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bauzasedleafe: just a note that we have an open critical bug14:02
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edleafebauzas: Yes, the bugs topic is next14:03
edleafe#link Correct allocations for moves https://review.openstack.org/#/c/488510/14:03
* alex_xu waves late14:03
edleafejaypipes, dansmith - comments on that series?14:03
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jaypipesedleafe: slow slogging but making progress.14:04
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jaypipesedleafe: agree with alex_xu's comments about lack of testing of rebuild/evacuate14:04
jaypipesedleafe: will be focusing on this today14:04
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mriedemrebuild avoids the scheduler so should be ok14:04
mriedemit's a noop claim14:04
edleafejaypipes: ok. Is there anything we can help with (other than reviews)?14:04
jaypipesmriedem: but it will not hit the "auto-heal" thing in Pike computes..14:05
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alex_xuyea, rebuild is ok14:05
jaypipesmriedem: in any case, we can discuss on #openstack-nova14:05
mriedemoh that's a concern for the patch14:05
mriedemnvm me then14:05
edleafe#link Amend spec for Custom Resource Classes in Flavors https://review.openstack.org/#/c/481748/14:05
edleafeHas a +2; needs another nova-specs core14:05
edleafe#link Ironic Flavor Migration https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487954/14:05
edleafeFinally has approval of Ironic people. Should be good to go.14:05
edleafe#link Improve handling of ironicclient failures https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487925/14:06
edleafeKeeps failing a few tests in Jenkins, but never locally.14:06
edleafeAt a loss figuring out the problem.14:06
edleafeAdditional eyeballs on that might provide the solution14:06
* dtantsur was not aware of that, will check14:07
edleafethx14:07
edleafe#link Devstack to use resource classes by default https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476968/14:07
edleafedtantsur is still working out some issues with this.14:07
dtantsuryeah, no much progress. I don't really understand why it fails.14:07
dtantsuron a bright side, a person told us that roughly the same thing worked locally for them14:08
dtantsursooo.. maybe missing 'sleep 10' somewhere? ;)14:08
edleafeheh14:08
edleafe"did you try unplugging it and then plugging it back in?"14:08
dtantsurright :D14:08
edleafeThe next few traits patches are on hold until Queens14:09
edleafe#link Traits support in the Allocation Candidates https://review.openstack.org/478464/14:09
edleafe#link Add traits to the ResourceProviders filters https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474602/14:09
edleafe#link Refactor of trait filtering SQLA https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489206/14:09
edleafe#link Correct resource provider set_traits() https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489205/14:09
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edleafe#link Nested Resource Providers series starting with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470575/14:09
edleafeAlso on hold until Queens14:09
edleafe#link Placement api-ref docs14:09
edleafehttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:cd/placement-api-ref+status:open14:09
edleafeLooking better and better!14:09
edleafeAnything else for specs/reviews?14:09
cdentthere’s lots of minor bug fixes from the most recent rp/update that still need attention14:10
mriedemi've also got a thing started14:10
cdenteven though that rp/update is more than a week old14:10
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mriedem#link shared storage functional resize test WIP https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490733/14:10
mriedem^ has flushed out some other issues beyond just that bug it's trying to test14:11
mriedemthe main issue being we don't sum/max shared storage allocation in the scheduler14:11
mriedemso if you resize disk up, we don't actually allocate that during the move in the scheduler14:11
edleafemriedem: functional tests tend to do that :)14:11
* cdent edleafe burn14:11
* cdent sizzles14:11
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* edleafe hates trusting unit tests14:12
mriedemanyway,14:12
mriedemi don't think it's something we were focusing on until after jay and dan's changes for the move stuff anyway14:12
mriedemthe fixes, at least for me locally, get messy14:12
mriedemso shared storage is probably going to be a known issue in the release notes, as in we know it doesn't work14:13
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cdentmessy how? a simple sum of everything not workable?14:13
edleafeyeah, it would be nice to map out all the use cases to make sure we have them covered14:13
mriedemthe merge/sum in the scheduler isn't too bad,14:14
mriedemit's the report client that gets bad https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491098/114:14
mriedemstarting around https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491098/1/nova/scheduler/client/report.py@101914:15
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mriedemthe scheduler report client has to figure out if we're using shared storage for the instance already,14:15
mriedemand if that shared storage is related to the compute node that's updating the allocations,14:15
mriedemso it avoids overwriting the disk using the local compute node14:15
mriedembut that doesn't handle shared storage associated with the dest node14:15
edleafeseems like too many parts need to have knowledge about other parts14:16
cdentyeah14:16
mriedemi've been thinking the _allocate_for_instance code should just add/update allocations for the local compute node unless told otherwise via delete_allocations_for_instance14:16
mriedembut anyway, like i said, it gets messy14:16
cdentcan we instead: reverse the allocation structure so it is keyed by resourc class with value of rp uuid and quantity14:16
cdentand then loop across both14:17
edleafeand it will stay messy until the dansmith/jaypipes patches settle14:17
cdentif source rp uuid == target rp uuid sum14:17
cdent(into a new reversed alloc structure)14:17
cdentsorry, I’m still back on the claim, not the unwind14:18
cdentbut I still think changing the data structure would help14:18
edleafecdent: it seems like it would be cleaner to have multiple allocations for the same RP/consumer14:18
edleafei.e., one for source, one for dest14:18
jaypipesedleafe: how would you differentiate them?14:18
edleafeso resize to same host would effectively sum14:18
cdentedleafe: yes, but I think we declared that off limits until after pike14:18
edleafejaypipes: why would you need to know that14:18
edleafecdent: sure, I'm just throwing that out there14:19
cdentit’s a good pitch14:19
jaypipesedleafe: to know which one to "free" on revert or confirm14:19
edleafejaypipes: from old flavor/new flavor?14:19
jaypipesedleafe: dansmith had a good idea of allocating the resources against a consumer ID of the migration UUID (once migrations get a UUID)14:19
edleafejaypipes: yeah, we talked about that a while ago14:20
bauzasjust a side note that not all migrations have a migration object14:20
dansmitheh?14:20
dansmiththey better14:20
edleafeuntil we realized that migrations don't have a uuid :)14:20
jaypipesheh, yeah14:20
bauzasdansmith: not live-migrations AFAIK14:20
* cdent blinks14:20
dansmithyeah, I added it14:20
bauzasoh you did ?14:20
dansmitha while ago14:21
bauzasexcellent, missed that14:21
* edleafe wipes his brow14:21
mriedemi also think tracking the migrations allocations via the migration uuid will also help sort things out14:21
bauzasseriously, the long-standing bugfix from nikola confused me14:21
bauzasI agree14:21
mriedemso we need to limp along in pike until we have that i guess14:22
edleafeReady to move on to bugs?14:22
* cdent nods14:22
edleafe#topic Bugs14:22
edleafe#link Placement bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=placement14:22
*** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)"14:22
bauzasI serisouly didn't push for that idea because I thought we weren't creating migration objects for live-mig14:22
edleafeSeveral new bugs as we start to pound on the code harder.14:22
* bauzas facepalms14:22
edleafeOne critical bug: migration of single instance from multi-instance request spec fails with IndexError https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/170896114:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1708961 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "migration of single instance from multi-instance request spec fails with IndexError" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza)14:22
edleafebauzas has a fix in the works:14:22
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edleafe#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491439/14:22
edleafebauzas: comment on that fix?14:23
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bauzasI marked it critical as I considered it a serious regression14:23
bauzasnothing but what's in the commit msg14:23
bauzasand the fact I missed that when I reviewed, so I blame for myself14:23
edleafeok, we'll follow up on that after the meeting14:24
jaypipesgah, yet another poop accident just had to clean up... ffs, today sucks.14:24
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mriedemfrom a dog right?14:24
cdentjaypipes: maybe you need a cage14:24
edleafejaypipes: you've made me not care about the flash floods waiting to carry my house away14:24
jaypipesmriedem: no, from Julie.14:25
bauzasjaypipes: I sincerely hope you don't have a Roomba14:25
jaypipesbauzas: lol, no.14:25
* bauzas checked.14:25
mriedemjaypipes: in sickness and in health...14:25
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jaypipesalright, moving on.14:25
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edleafejaypipes: http://imgur.com/a/6ympr14:26
jaypipesyikes14:27
* edleafe is waiting for the electricity to go out any minute...14:27
edleafeSo before I lose internet, anything else for bugs?14:27
cdentI’m going to make some more14:27
cdentI hope everyone else will too14:27
edleafecdent: doing what you do best14:28
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edleafe#topic Open Discussion14:28
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dtantsurI have an ironic question :)14:28
edleafego for it14:28
dtantsurwhen should we recommend people to 1. populate resource_class in ironic, 2. switch flavors?14:28
dtantsurI suspect the latter is for Queens14:28
mriedemcorrect14:29
dtantsurso my question is more about the former. should we already put in our upgrade notes that resource_class has to be populated14:29
edleafedtantsur: populate resource_class now14:29
dtantsurnow = before upgrade to Pike or after?14:29
jaypipesdtantsur: I would say now.14:29
jaypipesdtantsur: in other words, make resource class required *in Pike*14:29
edleafedtantsur: it should work if they add during Pike, but if you say that, they'll probably trip on some edge cases14:30
dtantsurokay, so I put something like "Before upgrade to Pike, you have to populate node.resource_class", right?14:30
edleafe...for all nodes14:30
bauzasfrom an ironic perspective, I'd say yup14:30
jaypipesmriedem, cdent, edleafe, dansmith: so, I've been thinking... with all the latent issues we're finding in the resize/move space, would it be good for me to write a dev-ref doc specifically about what happens with placement, scheduler and compute nodes in the various resize operations?14:31
dtantsurand the flavors should be updated during Pike, before Queens, right?14:31
edleafedtantsur: yes, updated flavor extra_specs will work14:31
cdentjaypipes: yes, because it seems likely that in the act of writing it, it will make us/you think of gaps14:31
jaypipesk14:31
dtantsurawesome, thanks all14:31
edleafePike supports both ways of requesting ironic resources14:31
* dtantsur will ping someone to review the docs change14:31
mriedemjaypipes: yeah agree, docs are always good14:32
edleafejaypipes: that might also serve as a guideline for the functional tests that will be needed14:32
jaypipesya14:33
bauzas++14:33
edleafeok, then:14:34
edleafe#action jaypipes to write a dev-ref doc specifically about what happens with placement, scheduler and compute nodes in the various resize operations14:34
edleafeAnything else for open discussion? How about talking about how much we love the ChanceScheduler?14:34
* cdent writes EdScheduler14:35
dtantsuroh, you've got a random failure scheduling filter? nice!14:35
dtantsur:D14:35
cdentdef select_destinations(…): raise NoValidHost()14:35
* edleafe remembers when ChanceScheduler was the *only* scheduler in Nova14:35
dtantsurif random() > 0.5: raise NoValidHost()  <-- this is cloud, c'mon14:35
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edleafeI think we're done here. Thanks everyone!14:36
edleafe#endmeeting14:36
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"14:36
openstackMeeting ended Mon Aug  7 14:36:44 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:36
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cdentthanks edleafe14:36
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dave-mccowan#startmeeting barbican20:02
openstackMeeting started Mon Aug  7 20:02:28 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dave-mccowan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'barbican'20:02
dave-mccowan#topic roll call20:02
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dave-mccowano/20:02
kfarro/20:05
dave-mccowanhi kfarr!20:05
kfarrhey dave-mccowan :)20:05
dave-mccowando you know if you can go to sydney?  i got an email that said this week is deadline to ask for travel assistance for people who want to go, but employers won't reimburse.20:07
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dave-mccowan#topic pike status20:09
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dave-mccowanbarbican client and castellan both have a release tagged for pike.20:10
dave-mccowanthis week is RC1 week for barbican20:10
dave-mccowanany ideas on if any of the open patches should go into Pike?20:10
kfarrdid everything get sorted out with python-barbicanclient?20:10
kfarrand thanks for the heads-up about the travel assistance program, not sure if it'll work for us though20:11
kfarrhaven't checked the barbican queue in a while20:11
kfarrfor patches20:11
kfarrlemme look20:11
dave-mccowankfarr i think so.  4.5.2 is tagged and reportedly works for octavia.20:11
dave-mccowanis everything OK for castallan pike?20:11
kfarrdave-mccown yup!  it didn't break20:12
dave-mccowanthere is a uwsgi patch open that i think should merge, but i'm nervous about the gate job that is failing.20:12
kfarrare we only supposed to be merging only bug fixes right now?  or is that only after this week20:12
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aleeo/20:13
kfarrwhich was the uwsgi patch?20:13
kfarrhey alee !20:13
aleekfarr, hey there :)20:13
dave-mccowanhi alee!20:14
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aleedave-mccowan, yo20:14
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aleedave-mccowan, kfarr anyone but us here?20:14
kfarrnope just us20:15
kfarrdave-mccowan are you talking about this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476996/20:15
kfarrI am worried about it too, because it looks like the one that's failing is the barbican tempest plugin one20:15
dave-mccowanalee RC1 is this week.  we should figure out which open patches should merge.20:16
dave-mccowanalee is RH doing any extra QA on barbican now that it will be supported?20:16
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aleedave-mccowan, not yet - but we will be20:16
aleedave-mccowan, that will be part of my focus -- ie. what else needs to be done from a RH perspective from next week onwards20:17
dave-mccowankfarr yes, that one.  glance had the same issue switching to uwsgi.  the default timeout is too short for them.  (or is this really glance timing out, and not barbican?)20:17
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aleedave-mccowan, we've got someone containerizing it and putting it in OOO right now20:17
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dave-mccowanwhat else do we want to do before cutting a release candidate this week?  anyone have time for extra testing?20:20
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dave-mccowankfarr oops.  i merged 476996.  i guess i decided that it really was a glance problem and not related to the patch.  let me know if i was wrong on that and i can revert.20:22
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dave-mccowanthat's what i have for Pike.  let me know asap if you find something that should be done before we release.20:26
dave-mccowan#topic ptg20:26
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dave-mccowancoming up.  add any agenda items here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-ptg-queens20:27
dave-mccowan#topic any other business?20:27
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kfarrnope, all good here!20:27
dave-mccowanalee kfarr thanks for joining!20:29
aleelater ya'l20:29
dave-mccowan#endmeeting20:29
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fungimuch zuulishness is afoot?22:00
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jeblairi'm left speechless22:01
pabelangerhello22:02
jeblairbut yeah, anyone else want to have a meeting thingy?22:02
fungii can go back to working on things if there's no meeting needed22:02
clarkbohai22:04
fungiseems there's nobody eager to meet?22:04
pabelangerany blockers so far for PTG roll out?22:04
jeblairlet's see if anyone else shows up in a few more minutes22:05
jeblairi think it'd be ideal to at least do a quick check in on job progress and find out what people are planning on working on this week, but i think we're mostly just heads down on jobs and stories, so probably not worth having a meeting just for form's sake.22:06
pabelangerYa22:07
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fungiwfm22:10
jeblairokay, let's call it canceled.  back to work!  :)22:11
fungithanks!22:11
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