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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 22 14:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| devkulkarni | EmilienM: hi, quick question.. we have couple of patches for review for the wsgi api goal for solum. would you be able to review them? (or, if you can point to someone who can that will be great too) | 14:02 |
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| EmilienM | devkulkarni: I suggest to update governance repo with the work in progress, like other projects are doing | 14:03 |
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| devkulkarni | EmilienM: sure, we will do that. beyond work-in-progress, I want to make sure that what we are doing is correct. so wanted some eyes on the patches from folks who are experienced with the goal's objective. is there any channel dedicated to the goal? I can check there.. | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | ok | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | no we don' thave a channel | 14:07 |
| devkulkarni | ah okay.. I vaguely remember reading about a channel for python35 goal (or oslo) , so thought there might be one for this goal as well | 14:08 |
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| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 22 14:57:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-03-22-14.00.html | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-03-22-14.00.txt | 14:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-03-22-14.00.log.html | 14:57 |
| Swami | hi | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| haleyb | #startmeeting neutron_dvr | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 22 15:00:38 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_dvr' | 15:00 |
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| haleyb | #chair Swami | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami haleyb | 15:01 |
| Swami | haleyb: Sorry, I was not able to focus much on upstream last couple of weeks. Probably everything should be ok in the coming weeks. | 15:01 |
| haleyb | Swami: sorry for missing last week, was on a plane and forgot to text you. | 15:02 |
| haleyb | I have been busy as well, but getting back to normal I hope | 15:02 |
| Swami | haleyb: no problem, last week I joined the meeting early and then waited to quit. | 15:02 |
| haleyb | they're aren't many lurkers anymore :( | 15:03 |
| Swami | haleyb: I may not have much update this week to share, just to let you know. | 15:03 |
| haleyb | me either | 15:03 |
| haleyb | let's just do bugs then | 15:04 |
| haleyb | #topic Bugs | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:04 | |
| Swami | haleyb: ok | 15:04 |
| Swami | There are two bugs that have not be triaged. | 15:05 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1672345 | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1672345 in neutron "Loadbalancer V2 ports are not serviced by DVR" [Undecided,New] | 15:05 |
| haleyb | i saw you asked for some more info, might be a dup | 15:06 |
| Swami | This one seems to be like the 'floatingip' to unbound port with DVR | 15:06 |
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| Swami | It may be the same, but still we need to triage this if there is anything else with the LBaaS that is not working right with DVR | 15:06 |
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| haleyb | i noticed oleg had a new patch for this, right? let me find it | 15:07 |
| Swami | haleyb: I am not aware. | 15:07 |
| Swami | Was this for the allowed_address_pair fix | 15:07 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/448084 was for the floating ip with aa-pairs | 15:08 |
| haleyb | so i think it was related by having those special-case FIP ports be on the snat node | 15:08 |
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| Swami | Yes it seems that he has made some changes to the agent side code to reuse the legacy router functions to handle the floating ip, but with the snat namespace, rather than code duplication. | 15:10 |
| haleyb | it's not complete, but a start | 15:10 |
| Swami | haleyb: that looks simple than mine. | 15:10 |
| haleyb | i don't see him online or i'd ping him | 15:11 |
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| Swami | haleyb: Let me take a look at that and see if it can be reused in my agent code, since I have tested mine. | 15:11 |
| haleyb | ok | 15:12 |
| Swami | The next one that has not been triaged yet is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1657981 | 15:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1657981 in neutron "FloatingIPs not reachable after restart of compute node (DVR)" [Undecided,New] | 15:12 |
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| Swami | I will triage this and will update the bug. | 15:12 |
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| haleyb | could be the agent is started before something else is up, don't know | 15:13 |
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| Swami | haleyb: yes, I need to retest this scenario in master to make sure if something is broken there. | 15:14 |
| Swami | haleyb: There was bug related to the OVS flows not cleaned up properly, do you know if that one got fixed. | 15:15 |
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| haleyb | Swami: i think so, i had cleaned the wiki 30 minutes ago (actually see i broke the formatting) | 15:17 |
| haleyb | was it bug 1583694 ? | 15:17 |
| openstack | bug 1583694 in neutron "[RFE] DVR support for Allowed_address_pair port that are bound to multiple ACTIVE VM ports" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1583694 - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:17 |
| haleyb | oops, bad paste | 15:17 |
| haleyb | bug 1668277 | 15:18 |
| openstack | bug 1668277 in neutron "When enable l2pop, after deleting the DVR port, the associated flow entries still exists." [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1668277 - Assigned to Yaohua Yan (sleepdream) | 15:18 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok, no problem. | 15:18 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:18 |
| Swami | haleyb: those were the only outstanding bugs that is not being triaged. | 15:19 |
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| Swami | haleyb: Need some reviews on the "Fast path exit" patches. | 15:19 |
| haleyb | Swami: yes, i will get to that this week | 15:20 |
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| haleyb | #topic Open Discussion | 15:21 |
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| haleyb | the DVR+HA job is close to merging, let me link it | 15:21 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok, that is good news. | 15:22 |
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| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383827/ - the change to set the environment | 15:22 |
| Swami | haleyb: So once it merges then we can make that job voting or should we wait for a couple of months to monitor the stability and make it voting. | 15:22 |
| haleyb | yes, we can watch for a bit. i couldn't find the infra change (if there was one) | 15:24 |
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| Swami | haleyb: Are you back in boston from NC | 15:24 |
| haleyb | Swami: yes, i am back, wasn't as warm as i would have expected :) | 15:25 |
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| Swami | haleyb: I will be attending the boston summit | 15:25 |
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| haleyb | Swami: I was just going to ask since I saw our topic was accepted | 15:26 |
| Swami | haleyb: Let me put together a slide deck for our presentation, sometime closer. | 15:26 |
| haleyb | Yes, maybe it can just be on google docs so we can work on it together | 15:26 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes, will start it in google docs. | 15:26 |
| haleyb | I am not sure if i'll be there the whole week, or just for the talk, need to work on that | 15:27 |
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| Swami | haleyb: are you taking time off during that week. | 15:28 |
| haleyb | Swami: I haven't yet, I just didn't know if i'd get hotel approval which makes it easier, but i have the free ticket so will be there as much as possible otherwise | 15:29 |
| Swami | haleyb: Oh! got it. | 15:29 |
| Swami | haleyb: I haven't booked my hotel yet. I am not sure which hotel is the closest. | 15:30 |
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| haleyb | the closest is full, i booked a room at the sheraton that i can cancel | 15:31 |
| haleyb | it's pretty close | 15:31 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes I saw a couple of hotels already sold out. | 15:31 |
| haleyb | it's not cheap, like $300 a day | 15:32 |
| Swami | haleyb: that is high | 15:32 |
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| haleyb | it is boston... | 15:32 |
| Swami | haleyb: is this the community negotiated price. | 15:33 |
| haleyb | looking forward to seeing you and any other neutrinos | 15:33 |
| Swami | haleyb: sure, see you soon. | 15:33 |
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| haleyb | the sheraton rate was, there might be other cheaper options further from the meeting | 15:33 |
| haleyb | anything else? otherwise i'll get back to reviews and such | 15:34 |
| Swami | haleyb: I don't have anything more to discuss. | 15:34 |
| haleyb | ^^ this is the chance for lurkers ^^ :) | 15:34 |
| haleyb | #endmeeting | 15:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:34 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 22 15:34:50 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2017/neutron_dvr.2017-03-22-15.00.html | 15:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2017/neutron_dvr.2017-03-22-15.00.txt | 15:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2017/neutron_dvr.2017-03-22-15.00.log.html | 15:34 |
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| haleyb | Swami: bye, ping me if i don't get to that review by Friday! | 15:35 |
| Swami | bye, will do | 15:35 |
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| Sukhdev | Rkukura: ping | 16:01 |
| trevormc | o/ | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | trevormc: hi | 16:02 |
| trevormc | Sukhdev: hi! The qinq driver has been coming along nicely. I think it should be ready soon | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | Cool | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | Rkukura is not here. I thought he was going to chair the meeting today | 16:04 |
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| trevormc | thats ok, I was just hoping to get some feedback on the review. Sean mooney asked what the importance of having a vlan_id on an L2 network segment. I didn't really have an answer for him. | 16:07 |
| trevormc | I use it to determine which segment to release, and I linked in the review where that happens. | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev_ | trevormc : hang on - let me start the meeting - give me sec | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev_ | #startmeeting: networking_ml2 | 16:09 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 22 16:09:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:09 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: : networking_ml2)" | 16:09 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to '__networking_ml2' | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev_ | #topic: Agenda | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Agenda (Meeting topic: : networking_ml2)" | 16:09 | |
| Sukhdev_ | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_March_15.2C_2017 | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev_ | #topic: Announcements | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Announcements (Meeting topic: : networking_ml2)" | 16:09 | |
| Sukhdev_ | rkukura is out today - so, he can not chair the meeting this moring | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev_ | #topic: QinQ Driver discussion | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": QinQ Driver discussion (Meeting topic: : networking_ml2)" | 16:11 | |
| trevormc | it doesn't look like there is an agenda for todays meeting. | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev_ | trevormc : yes - rkukura missed it and I thought he was going to chair - minor confussion | 16:11 |
| dasanind | hi | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev_ | we will make the agenda as we go | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev_ | dasanind : hi | 16:12 |
| trevormc | ah ok. So the qinq driver is coming along nicely, I was able to create a network locally and verify the database entries | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev_ | trevormc : lets discuss the QinQ driver here | 16:12 |
| trevormc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446047/ | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev_ | trevormc : that is good progress - | 16:13 |
| trevormc | The tests are failing because of the added _verify_networks_match function but it passes for me locall. | 16:13 |
| trevormc | Sean mooney reviewed it, and he is asking why I have the vlan_id in the L2 network segments table. | 16:13 |
| trevormc | I told him I have no other way of looking up the records with the driver_api. | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev_ | trevormc : one of the ML2 driver tables have this information already - can you not use that? | 16:15 |
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| trevormc | Sukhdev_ oh, what table? I was using the segment object here to retirieve the data https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446047/8/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/type_qinq.py@276 | 16:16 |
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| Sukhdev_ | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/models/plugins/ml2/vlanallocation.py#L39 | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev_ | actually I am looking for different table for ml2 driver - | 16:20 |
| trevormc | ok, that one I thought was just for vlan type networks | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev_ | trevormc : right scratch that - there is another one - trying to remember | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev_ | the one used by ml2 drivers | 16:21 |
| trevormc | here is a list http://paste.openstack.org/show/603792/ | 16:22 |
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| trevormc | maybe one of those will jog your memory :) | 16:22 |
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| Sukhdev_ | trevormc :-) | 16:23 |
| trevormc | networkconnections table? | 16:23 |
| trevormc | im just guessing here. Maybe we can get back to it later. | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev_ | yes one of these - its been a while when I used them | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev_ | I am thinking ml2_port_bindings | 16:26 |
| trevormc | That just has port details in it. | 16:26 |
| trevormc | and interface details. | 16:27 |
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| trevormc | ok well I'll consider it, I'm confused on how to use any other segment object other than the one given to the dirver | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev_ | look in neutron_lib | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev_ | there is db and model_base in there - I think it may be there | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev_ | my wifi is bit slow here - ping me if you could not find it offline, and I will try to dig it for you | 16:29 |
| trevormc | release_segment(self, context, segment): - the segment here is my concern. | 16:29 |
| trevormc | i'll message you later | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev_ | trevormc : sounds good - | 16:30 |
| trevormc | I don't have any more updates. | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev_ | trevormc : I will review your patch as well and see what Sean is suggesting - and reply accordingly | 16:31 |
| trevormc | thank you! did you have anything on your end? | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev_ | #topic : multiple bindings discussion | 16:31 |
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| Sukhdev_ | dasanind : are you there? | 16:31 |
| dasanind | need some reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414251/ | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev_ | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414251/ | 16:32 |
| dasanind | I am working on the test cases currently | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev_ | Is this ready? | 16:33 |
| trevormc | ill take a look, i gotta run. | 16:34 |
| dasanind | no still the integration with existing ml2 code is pending | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev_ | dasanind : I see | 16:34 |
| dasanind | but would like to get feedback on the apis | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev_ | dasanind : OK makes sense | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev_ | my next couple of days are kinda bad - but, will look it over the weekend and post comments | 16:35 |
| dasanind | Sukhdev_: thank you | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev_ | dasanind : no worries | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev_ | anything else? | 16:36 |
| dasanind | nothing else from my side | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev_ | cool - | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev_ | #topic Open Discussion | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev_ | Anybody has anything to discuss? | 16:37 |
| dasanind | I don't have anything | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev_ | OK - I think in that case we are done | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev_ | see you next week or on the reviewboard | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev_ | Thanks for attending | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev_ | #endmeeting | 16:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 22 16:38:12 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:38 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/__networking_ml2/2017/__networking_ml2.2017-03-22-16.09.html | 16:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/__networking_ml2/2017/__networking_ml2.2017-03-22-16.09.txt | 16:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/__networking_ml2/2017/__networking_ml2.2017-03-22-16.09.log.html | 16:38 |
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| dasanind | Thank you | 16:39 |
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| timsim | #startmeeting designate | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 22 17:00:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: designate)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:00 |
| timsim | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
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| * timsim hopes he has the right time this week | 17:00 | |
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| sonuk | \o | 17:00 |
| timsim | ping mugsie kiall | 17:00 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:00 |
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| timsim | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:01 |
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| timsim | #action timsim to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1668290 | 17:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1668290 in Designate "First call to designate-worker raise error" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Tim Simmons (timsim) | 17:01 |
| timsim | I didn't really do that. | 17:01 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:02 |
| timsim | #topic Bug Triage | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug Triage (Meeting topic: designate)" | 17:02 | |
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| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1674565 | 17:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1674565 in Designate "openstack recordset create does not throw any error when Zero TTL Values are specified" [Undecided,New] | 17:02 |
| mugsie | hum | 17:03 |
| mugsie | I thought we fixed that | 17:03 |
| timsim | I think this is the only new one. I've asked for more logs, I'd like to see what the API is responding with | 17:03 |
| timsim | Did we do something in the client for that? | 17:03 |
| mugsie | https://github.com/openstack/designate/blob/master/designate/objects/recordset.py#L128 | 17:03 |
| mugsie | no, in the API afaik | 17:04 |
| timsim | Yeah that's why I'm wondering what the API is responding with | 17:04 |
| mugsie | its treating it as none | 17:04 |
| mugsie | i think | 17:04 |
| mugsie | based on the CLI output | 17:05 |
| mugsie | but the raw curl will show what is happening | 17:05 |
| sonuk | timsim: i think it should throw error message but its not | 17:05 |
| mugsie | yeah, it should return '0' is not a valid 'ttl' or something similar | 17:06 |
| timsim | Yeah for sure | 17:06 |
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| timsim | I'll give them a week to post some more logs, if not I'll look at it | 17:06 |
| mugsie | k | 17:06 |
| mugsie | they also seem a bit confused by ttl in general | 17:06 |
| timsim | Yeah, I'll post a comment to follow that bit up | 17:07 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:07 |
| timsim | #topic Stable Backport Triage | 17:07 |
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| timsim | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/603796/ | 17:07 |
| * timsim doesn't see anything worth backporting there. | 17:08 | |
| mugsie | I cant see anything | 17:08 |
| timsim | cool | 17:08 |
| timsim | #topic Doc Structure | 17:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Doc Structure (Meeting topic: designate)" | 17:08 | |
| timsim | So asettle proposed this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446079/ | 17:08 |
| timsim | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446079/ | 17:08 |
| * asettle swans in | 17:09 | |
| asettle | Hello frands | 17:09 |
| timsim | hiiiiiiii | 17:09 |
| asettle | timsim: how be the other side? | 17:09 |
| asettle | Loving it? | 17:09 |
| timsim | Still on vacation :D | 17:09 |
| * mugsie finds somehting to nitpick about | 17:09 | |
| timsim | I'm wondering what people think of this structure? | 17:09 |
| asettle | mugsie: yo bro it's perfect | 17:09 |
| mugsie | I like it over all | 17:09 |
| timsim | I know, for me, I like having lots of things on the main page so I can Ctrl+f | 17:09 |
| mugsie | but - I would move the supported drivers up to the front page | 17:09 |
| asettle | So, I admit it's fairly barebones, but it's just a proposal. It can be edited further. | 17:10 |
| timsim | But that's probably because I know what I'm looking for. | 17:10 |
| asettle | Also, I seriously cannot for the life of me work out why you have the title as a contents section | 17:10 |
| asettle | There has to be *something* wrong in your conf.py | 17:10 |
| mugsie | timsim: yeah - most people presented with a wall of text run away | 17:10 |
| asettle | But I can't see it | 17:10 |
| mugsie | asettle: my conf.py is perfect | 17:10 |
| mugsie | :D | 17:10 |
| asettle | Hahhahahaha | 17:10 |
| asettle | It's beautiful, much like my patch | 17:10 |
| asettle | We are perfect :D | 17:10 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:10 |
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| timsim | Is the link to the install guide gone? | 17:11 |
| timsim | Should that be on the front page? | 17:11 |
| timsim | oh wow | 17:11 |
| timsim | reading | 17:11 |
| mugsie | what do you think about adding a few links to the client, dashboard, and tempest plugin? | 17:11 |
| asettle | Oops, went to the wrong meeting room | 17:11 |
| * timsim goes straight to the list of links | 17:11 | |
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| asettle | Heh, timsim I mean, if it would work better to have it in the 'contents' can do | 17:12 |
| asettle | mugsie: if you wanna. But I moved that into the dev docs because... well... bit more devy, no>? | 17:12 |
| asettle | But that was just rearranging. it's just an idea. | 17:12 |
| mugsie | tempest probably is alright | 17:12 |
| mugsie | the client feels a bit usery | 17:13 |
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| mugsie | but, we can merge, and iterate | 17:13 |
| timsim | Alright, so I think in general we're cool with the structure, we just want to nitpick a bit and move a couple things around. | 17:13 |
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| asettle | timsim: feel free to take the patch on that one and move it | 17:14 |
| asettle | i'm not precious | 17:14 |
| mugsie | ++ | 17:14 |
| asettle | I"m getting Andreas to take a look at the contents weirdness | 17:14 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | he knows where to find me if he has questions | 17:14 |
| timsim | Alright cool. We'll give it a bit more time and then probably merge it close to as is. | 17:14 |
| mugsie | sweet | 17:14 |
| asettle | Sweet as :) | 17:14 |
| asettle | Thanks dudes | 17:14 |
| mugsie | I am trying to get some openSUSE install docs for us as well | 17:15 |
| timsim | thanks asettle, I appreciate your ubiquitousness | 17:15 |
| mugsie | which will get us a tick in the project novigator | 17:15 |
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| asettle | Ohhh nice! | 17:15 |
| mugsie | asettle: we can just back port those, and have them show up right? | 17:15 |
| mugsie | docs team doesn't want to review ocata changes? | 17:16 |
| asettle | mugsie: in the docs repo? | 17:16 |
| mugsie | in our plugin in our repo | 17:16 |
| asettle | Don't think so? | 17:16 |
| asettle | I mean, I would need to see waht you mean | 17:16 |
| asettle | But I don't htink so | 17:16 |
| mugsie | I know we can do it, justy dont want to bypass any extra review s you do on branched docs | 17:16 |
| asettle | Let's say no for now, and not chase me down with a pitch fork when I turn out to be wrong | 17:17 |
| asettle | How about that? :) | 17:17 |
| asettle | :p | 17:18 |
| mugsie | sounds like a plan | 17:18 |
| timsim | #topic Open Discussion | 17:18 |
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| mugsie | we kinda wentthat way did nt we :) | 17:18 |
| timsim | Anyone have anything, I have a couple gate-related things? | 17:18 |
| mugsie | nothing from me right now | 17:18 |
| asettle | Nope | 17:19 |
| sonuk | are we also planning to remove log translation thing | 17:19 |
| asettle | Other than Ed Sheeran's new album is super annoying | 17:19 |
| * timsim spit takes | 17:19 | |
| mugsie | asettle: well, duh | 17:19 |
| asettle | *shrug* I expected more, ya know? | 17:19 |
| mugsie | sonuk: I think so | 17:19 |
| timsim | His lego house came falling down | 17:19 |
| mugsie | the i18n team will not be translating them | 17:19 |
| sonuk | yeah. | 17:20 |
| * timsim feels like he should know what you are talking about | 17:20 | |
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| asettle | mugsie: translating Ed Sheeran? | 17:20 |
| mugsie | timsim: we are removeing all the _LE( , _LW( etc | 17:20 |
| mugsie | as the team does not find value in translating them | 17:21 |
| mugsie | (the translation team) | 17:21 |
| mugsie | asettle: heh - that would be a terrible job | 17:21 |
| timsim | mugsie: How did I miss that? | 17:21 |
| mugsie | I am not sure what list it went to | 17:22 |
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| timsim | I think it's -dev, I see a reference to it in another ml post | 17:23 |
| timsim | Must have come in the meantime between be signing up my personal email addr | 17:23 |
| mugsie | yeah, I have a gap between my HPE email and my SUSE one | 17:23 |
| timsim | Alright, coolio | 17:23 |
| mugsie | makes things cleaner anyway | 17:24 |
| timsim | Do we have an oslo messaging problem? Been seeing a lot of these in the gate logs http://logs.openstack.org/90/447290/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-designate-pdns4-worker-model-ubuntu-xenial/b9fe6a3/logs/screen-designate-central.txt.gz#_2017-03-19_13_27_15_915 | 17:24 |
| timsim | and I think mugsie thought it was responsible for the occasional 504's we were seeing? | 17:24 |
| mugsie | i think we do | 17:24 |
| mugsie | I can dig into it, but it will be friday | 17:24 |
| timsim | I'll try and do that as well. | 17:25 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:25 |
| timsim | Also I think the mitaka gates are dead too http://logs.openstack.org/21/428621/1/check/gate-designate-dsvm-powerdns-ubuntu-trusty/9a58c24/console.html#_2017-03-16_06_43_12_622188 | 17:26 |
| timsim | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428621/ ^ from < | 17:26 |
| mugsie | crap | 17:26 |
| mugsie | how long do we have before killing mitaka? | 17:26 |
| mugsie | timsim: I think I know what that is | 17:27 |
| mugsie | I can look quickly later on | 17:27 |
| timsim | Coolio. | 17:28 |
| timsim | Oh it EOLs 2017-04-10 | 17:29 |
| timsim | NICE | 17:29 |
| timsim | https://releases.openstack.org/ | 17:29 |
| mugsie | 20 is days | 17:29 |
| mugsie | ish* | 17:29 |
| mugsie | \o/ | 17:29 |
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| timsim | Just in time 👍 | 17:29 |
| mugsie | aye | 17:29 |
| timsim | Alright, well that's all I have | 17:29 |
| timsim | Anything else? Going once | 17:30 |
| timsim | twice | 17:30 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:30 |
| timsim | #endmeeting | 17:30 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:30 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 22 17:30:50 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-03-22-17.00.html | 17:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-03-22-17.00.txt | 17:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-03-22-17.00.log.html | 17:30 |
| sonuk | o/ | 17:31 |
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| amrith | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 22 18:00:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
| amrith | courtesy ping to attendees johnma slicknik aliadil spilla songjian trevormc apsarshaik | 18:00 |
| SlickNik | o/ | 18:00 |
| amrith | hi SlickNik | 18:00 |
| trevormc | o/ | 18:00 |
| SlickNik | hi amrith | 18:00 |
| amrith | hi trevormc | 18:00 |
| trevormc | hi amrith, SlickNik | 18:00 |
| songjian | o/ | 18:00 |
| amrith | let's give folks a couple of minutes to come in | 18:00 |
| SlickNik | hi trevormc | 18:01 |
| trevormc | hi songjian | 18:01 |
| songjian | hi trevormc | 18:01 |
| amrith | since there are now four of us ... the combinatorial "hi's" may become a bit much ... hi ALL | 18:02 |
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| amrith | let's get started | 18:02 |
| amrith | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:02 |
| amrith | I have no specific agenda items for today | 18:02 |
| amrith | I'm mostly focused on working on getting the gate better | 18:02 |
| amrith | #link https://review.openstack.org/447750 | 18:03 |
| amrith | #link https://review.openstack.org/448630 | 18:03 |
| amrith | which I merged into https://review.openstack.org/448630 | 18:03 |
| amrith | yesterday another change #link https://review.openstack.org/448339 | 18:03 |
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| amrith | in the background working on getting lxd support for trove so we can use that in the gate for more things | 18:04 |
| amrith | also trying to cut back on memory usage in the gate instances | 18:04 |
| amrith | trevormc, I also fixed the #link https://review.openstack.org/447211 | 18:04 |
| amrith | which you brought up on Friday | 18:04 |
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| amrith | that's pretty much been my focus for the past several weeks | 18:05 |
| trevormc | yeah I saw that, good job. | 18:05 |
| amrith | thx | 18:05 |
| amrith | in some offline testing, the two gate changes to bump the keystone token life and add polling to the log tests showed marked improvement in pass rate | 18:05 |
| amrith | so I'm going to look to merge them when I get a chance | 18:05 |
| amrith | Also, rather than have numerous changes for the log translation stuff, I've pushed up #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448567/ | 18:06 |
| amrith | Sorry trevormc all of your T* stuff is now going by the wayside | 18:06 |
| trevormc | sigh | 18:06 |
| amrith | or you'll have to refactor it to make it reflect the new rules :) | 18:06 |
| amrith | for now I've just made the ignore list reflect what other projects are doing | 18:06 |
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| amrith | and made the change for this log translation stuff be a smaller diff | 18:07 |
| amrith | and one that could be done in an automated way | 18:07 |
| amrith | E127 would have killed me otherwise | 18:07 |
| amrith | that's about all I had ... | 18:07 |
| amrith | what's up in your world(s) | 18:07 |
| amrith | this is pretty much open meeting | 18:07 |
| amrith | #topic open discussion | 18:07 |
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| amrith | so feel free to chime in | 18:07 |
| trevormc | I've been looking at the automatic plugin/extension documentation | 18:09 |
| trevormc | it appears a lot of our doc strings are lacking so im not sure how much value it is without adding more detailed doc strings. | 18:09 |
| trevormc | - or at least the mgmt extensions from what ive been looking at | 18:09 |
| amrith | my suggestion to you would be to work on things that make trove better (feature wise) | 18:10 |
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| amrith | anyone have anything else? | 18:12 |
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| SlickNik | Nothing else from my side. | 18:12 |
| amrith | trevormc, songjian ... | 18:13 |
| songjian | I have a question about the redis cluster, should port 16379 be opened by default? Now cluster task is None, instance is active, but each member node can not directly find each other (cluster down) | 18:13 |
| amrith | songjian, please see http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/trove/tree/trove/common/cfg.py#n796 | 18:14 |
| songjian | thx amrith | 18:14 |
| amrith | anything else ... | 18:15 |
| amrith | going once | 18:15 |
| trevormc | i didnt have anything else | 18:15 |
| songjian | Nothing else from my side | 18:15 |
| amrith | ok, hearing nothing, thanks for joining | 18:15 |
| amrith | #endmeeting | 18:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 22 18:15:57 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-03-22-18.00.html | 18:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-03-22-18.00.txt | 18:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-03-22-18.00.log.html | 18:16 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 22 20:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Hi folks | 20:00 |
| xgerman | o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| johnsom | Just an FYI, we are rescheduling one of our sessions at the Boston summit to be earlier in the day. They had scheduled two of them back-to-back, so I asked for a change. | 20:01 |
| johnsom | The schedule should be updated soon. | 20:01 |
| johnsom | Other than that, the only thing I have for announcements is we merged the load balancer API for Octavia v2 API.... | 20:02 |
| johnsom | Any other announcements today? | 20:02 |
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| johnsom | Oh, I probably should mention the logging thing... | 20:03 |
| johnsom | Per the mailing list it has been decided to stop localizing log entries. | 20:03 |
| johnsom | This means no more _LI, _LW, _LE for log entries. | 20:04 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:04 |
| johnsom | However, there will still be localization for exception strings that may end up being displayed to the user. | 20:04 |
| johnsom | Those should now be tagged with just _ | 20:04 |
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| johnsom | We should clean this up, but the two patches posted are search/replace kind of things and not clean. Plus we need to intelligently update the hacking rules (not just delete). | 20:05 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | sorry im late | 20:05 |
| johnsom | Ok, now that is all of my announcements. | 20:05 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:06 | |
| johnsom | I am just about done with the load balancer section of the API reference doc. I just have the status tree left to add. | 20:06 |
| johnsom | Other than that, a bunch of reviews, etc. | 20:06 |
| johnsom | Any other updates? | 20:06 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | The two minor bug fixes I tossed up for v2 LB API fixes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448307/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448317/ | 20:07 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | also initial frameworks for the python-octaviaclient are up | 20:07 |
| johnsom | Cool, glad to get a few of those bugs closed out. Will review after the meeting | 20:07 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | side note: can't do a "pip install python-octaviaclient" yet | 20:07 |
| johnsom | Right, I would have to cut a release for that | 20:08 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | ah. duh | 20:08 |
| johnsom | grin | 20:08 |
| rm_work | ah i had a similar thing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448626/ | 20:08 |
| johnsom | Is this in a state we could start reviewing the CLI syntax? I am hoping we can clean up a few things that neutron client did not handle well | 20:08 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | not even close | 20:09 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | the base framework all needs to go in | 20:09 |
| johnsom | rm_work Ok, added to my after-the-meeting list | 20:09 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | starting with cutting a release so OSC knows that octaviaclient exists | 20:09 |
| johnsom | ankur-gupta-f4 ok | 20:09 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447068/ is failing everything because of it | 20:09 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | once that is in, the actual work can begin | 20:10 |
| johnsom | ankur-gupta-f4 Is the client plugin self-documenting, does sphinx generate docs for it based on the code? | 20:10 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | not sure. havent gotten to that step yet | 20:10 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | started this. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446223/ | 20:11 |
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| ankur-gupta-f4 | but had to pause since the skeleton for the client hasn't been made yet, so went back and started it | 20:11 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | here: | 20:11 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448331/ | 20:11 |
| johnsom | I posted a comment on the first patch. I think "load balancer" should be "loadbalancer" | 20:12 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | currently my progress... if everything is installed correctly. "openstack load balancer list" is acknowledged by OSC as a command, but does nothing yet since the octaviaclient isn't bound to the Octavia api yet. :D | 20:12 |
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| ankur-gupta-f4 | as in the namespace should be "loadbalancer" | 20:13 |
| johnsom | As in the command "openstack loadbalancer list" would work | 20:13 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | I can ping out to see what dtroyer thinks. but i have a feeling he will want it to be 'load balancer' and so do i | 20:13 |
| johnsom | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-ptg-pike line 94 is what dtroyer and I came up with at the PTG | 20:14 |
| johnsom | So, yes, ping him and let us know if that is changing | 20:14 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | hate it. but if thats what came up at PTG thats what it will be | 20:15 |
| johnsom | What do the other cores here think? | 20:15 |
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| johnsom | rm_work xgerman? | 20:16 |
| nmagnezi | i'm not a core, but I think loadbalancer is preferable. | 20:16 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:16 |
| johnsom | Thanks nmagnezi | 20:16 |
| johnsom | Sorry, I should have not said core other than to get their attention | 20:17 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | done will update all | 20:17 |
| rm_work | same, I think | 20:17 |
| rm_work | would PREFER lb tho | 20:17 |
| rm_work | openstack lb list :P | 20:17 |
| xgerman | maybe they support alias? | 20:17 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, np | 20:17 |
| nmagnezi | rm_work, lb is very much lbaasv1 like :) | 20:17 |
| johnsom | Yeah, we were going to ask about that I think | 20:17 |
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| ankur-gupta-f4 | tab completion can be used if you dont want to type it all out rm_work :P | 20:17 |
| rm_work | heh k | 20:18 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I have the same feeling about lb | 20:18 |
| rm_work | then definitely loadbalancer | 20:18 |
| johnsom | lb could be linux bridge | 20:18 |
| rm_work | because otherwise it'd be a space | 20:18 |
| rm_work | yeah yeah fine | 20:18 |
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| ankur-gupta-f4 | loadbalancer possible alias of lb. done-done | 20:18 |
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| johnsom | Ok | 20:18 |
| johnsom | how about alias of lbaas | 20:18 |
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| ankur-gupta-f4 | will reach out to the OSC cores to confirm their thoughts to double check | 20:18 |
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| johnsom | ankur-gupta-f4 Thanks! | 20:19 |
| johnsom | #topic When should we lock neutron-lbaas for new features? Revisited | 20:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "When should we lock neutron-lbaas for new features? Revisited (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:19 | |
| johnsom | So, I am bringing this up again | 20:19 |
| johnsom | The more I thought about where we are in the API work and how short Pike-1 is, I'm thinking we should reconsider and maybe do Pike-2 | 20:20 |
| nmagnezi | feature freeze != bug fixes, right? | 20:20 |
| johnsom | Correct | 20:20 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:20 |
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| johnsom | This is just blocking new features | 20:20 |
| johnsom | I would also strongly encourage dependent patches for the same change in Octavia | 20:21 |
| nmagnezi | ack. do we have any new features correctly up for review at the moment? | 20:21 |
| johnsom | Yes, we do | 20:21 |
| nmagnezi | I know about a single patch for manual reschedualing | 20:21 |
| johnsom | Including the next topic, QoS and security groups | 20:21 |
| nmagnezi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447177/ | 20:21 |
| johnsom | Thoughts? Comments? | 20:21 |
| nmagnezi | oh, alright | 20:21 |
| xgerman | so QoS is pretty straight forward and we have a spec | 20:22 |
| nmagnezi | mmm.. not that I have any specific feature in mind, but when the lbaasv2 will move to Octavia (pass thru), will new features get accepted there? | 20:22 |
| johnsom | If I don't hear any comments/discussion I will move forward with feature freeze at Pike-2 milestone | 20:22 |
| xgerman | yep, P-2 seems right | 20:23 |
| rm_work | feature freeze at ocata-3 is out of the question? | 20:23 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi The idea is the new features should be done against octavia | 20:23 |
| nmagnezi | no objections here (for freeze in P-2) | 20:23 |
| johnsom | rm_work funny | 20:23 |
| xgerman | indeed our goal is to phase out LBaaS | 20:23 |
| johnsom | I kind of wish | 20:23 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, ack. sounds good. | 20:24 |
| xgerman | so if you do a new feture in Octavia it won’t be available in Neutron LBaaS | 20:24 |
| xgerman | or are we allowing adding API calls | 20:24 |
| nmagnezi | i was asking this because I noticed some stuff gets send both to Octavia and the neutron-lbaas repo. which is a bad thing.. | 20:24 |
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| johnsom | xgerman My thought is if it's a new feature, it is octavia only | 20:25 |
| xgerman | agreed | 20:25 |
| johnsom | Pass through ignores it | 20:25 |
| nmagnezi | +1 | 20:25 |
| johnsom | Or, I guess rejects it | 20:25 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:25 |
| johnsom | Right the point here is to stop duplicating work and stop porting nightmares | 20:25 |
| johnsom | Ok, I think we are agreed on this | 20:26 |
| xgerman | cool | 20:26 |
| johnsom | #agreed Feature freeze neutron-lbaas at the Pike-2 milestone | 20:26 |
| johnsom | #topic Discuss QoS and Security Groups | 20:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discuss QoS and Security Groups (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:27 | |
| johnsom | xgerman Do you want to talk to this? | 20:27 |
| xgerman | sure | 20:27 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441912/ | 20:27 |
| johnsom | for QoS | 20:27 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/445274 | 20:27 |
| johnsom | for security groups | 20:27 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, maybe it would be a good idea to submit comments about the feature freeze in P-2 in relevant patches so ppl will know it is coming and they should finalize their work | 20:27 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:28 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi Yes, good idea. I will also send out e-mail to the mailing list. | 20:28 |
| nmagnezi | :) | 20:28 |
| xgerman | So the challenge with those two patches (and other potential ones working on the port) that this will ties us pretty close to Neutron and it is unclear how hardware vendors can implement that | 20:29 |
| johnsom | Yes. I also have concerns since our service account current "owns" the port | 20:29 |
| xgerman | biggest problem is that users can change the rules outside Octavia and we won’t know about it | 20:30 |
| xgerman | or a hardware vendor would need to track any innovations in those systems | 20:30 |
| xgerman | QoS is simple enough so we could swing it but security groups are really complex and orthogonal to a laod balancers access control feature | 20:31 |
| xgerman | #link https://www.haproxy.com/doc/aloha/7.0/haproxy/acls.html | 20:32 |
| xgerman | so one idea is to have our own API and then a driver for security groups, etc. | 20:32 |
| johnsom | #link http://cbonte.github.io/haproxy-dconv/1.6/configuration.html#4-acl | 20:33 |
| xgerman | thanks johnsom | 20:33 |
| johnsom | So maybe we discuss them one at a time | 20:34 |
| xgerman | ok | 20:34 |
| johnsom | For QoS I see two options: | 20:34 |
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| johnsom | We add parameters to our API for the actual settings. Reference driver sets these via neutron, vendor drivers do what ever they want. | 20:35 |
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| johnsom | Or, we accept a neutron qos policy ID. Reference applies that to the port (using neutron super powers since it's cross project) and vendor gets to interact with neutron to either set or query the settings and/or register for some kind of change notifications. | 20:36 |
| johnsom | Does that sound about right for the options? | 20:36 |
| xgerman | yes | 20:36 |
| xgerman | #vote? | 20:37 |
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| johnsom | I was waiting to see if there was discussion.... | 20:38 |
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| johnsom | I lean towards option one as it keeps the mechanics clean. The only con I see is extra parameters | 20:38 |
| xgerman | ok, seems fine for me — though then people can’t share QoS policies and update at once… | 20:39 |
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| johnsom | Option two has the advantage of, one parameter and if new QoS features come into neutron, we inherit. Probably less code on our side | 20:39 |
| johnsom | Yep. Sharing is a good point. | 20:40 |
| johnsom | Option two just puts more work on the drivers if they don't want to just use neutron for QoS | 20:40 |
| johnsom | Ok, I guess I lean more towards option two the more I think about it | 20:40 |
| johnsom | Anyone else want to comment or should we put it to a vote? | 20:41 |
| xgerman | well, if a hardware vendor doesn’t implement QoS and can’t use neutron — it will just silently fail? | 20:42 |
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| m-greene- | does this push Barbican API support back into each vendor driver? | 20:42 |
| m-greene- | to be consisten? | 20:42 |
| johnsom | I guess a vote is kind of silly, we should all just comment on the spec | 20:42 |
| xgerman | no, we will keep barbican as is ;-) | 20:42 |
| nmagnezi | please link the spec :) | 20:42 |
| m-greene- | if octavia owns the API queries back into neutron, we know if will do the right thing (neutron-client, and not direcrt DB access :) | 20:43 |
| xgerman | this is limited to things which happen on the vip port | 20:43 |
| m-greene- | can’t trust us vendors to not violate things | 20:43 |
| johnsom | m-greene- No, I think option two would actually be more consistent with how we want to do barbican, i.e. interact with it from the octavia code | 20:43 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441912/ | 20:43 |
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| m-greene- | i like octavia maintaining point of strategic control | 20:43 |
| johnsom | m-greene- Ok, good feedback. | 20:44 |
| m-greene- | we need to learn a single API, instead of rummaging through every other project API | 20:44 |
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| johnsom | Right and if you are fine with neutron's QoS implementation, you basically have to do nothing. It's only if you want to not use neutron's implementation that you have to put in the extra work.... | 20:45 |
| johnsom | Ok, good discussion. All comment on the spec. | 20:45 |
| johnsom | On to security groups.... | 20:45 |
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| johnsom | This one is a bit more tricky | 20:46 |
| xgerman | yes, and we still haven’t seen the use case | 20:46 |
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| johnsom | In my opinion it would be bad if we allowed users to open ports that are not defined as listener ports. | 20:47 |
| xgerman | or close ports defined as them | 20:48 |
| johnsom | It would only expose what is in the network namespace (netns) | 20:48 |
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| johnsom | True, that is a shoot yourself in the foot scenario. Adds to operator support overhead (which I don't want). | 20:48 |
| johnsom | I think the interesting use case is if you want to restrict the ACL by subnets/source IPs | 20:49 |
| m-greene- | user ::= end-user of lb service? | 20:49 |
| xgerman | yes | 20:49 |
| johnsom | Yes, end user | 20:49 |
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| johnsom | We have the same kind of options: | 20:50 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, xgerman, i also don't know what is the expected usecase here. the only usecase comes to my mind is if someone wants to have a loadbalancer that is accessible from specific subnets | 20:50 |
| xgerman | well, its a bit different since we would like people not have the power to change ports | 20:50 |
| nmagnezi | in this case it *think* this can be achieved with floalting ips, but i'm not 100% sure | 20:51 |
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| johnsom | Add an ACL api similar to the L7 api. Reference driver validates and updates neutron security group on port, vendor driver gets the choice to implement themselves or use neutron security groups. | 20:51 |
| m-greene- | who or what originated this request for SG? | 20:51 |
| m-greene- | is there a blueprint? | 20:51 |
| xgerman | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445274/ | 20:51 |
| m-greene- | :) | 20:51 |
| xgerman | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/security-groups-lbaas | 20:51 |
| johnsom | Yeah, and that blueprint won't fly | 20:51 |
| johnsom | As I have commented | 20:52 |
| m-greene- | gosh- we can do that, just an an API parameter | 20:52 |
| xgerman | yeah, I am not even sure if we want to do security groups and not haproxy ACLs | 20:52 |
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| johnsom | Option two is to accept a neutron security group ID and clone it. The problem here is tracking changes in neutron. | 20:53 |
| xgerman | and that they cna shoot themselves in the foot | 20:53 |
| johnsom | Option three, blindly apply their security group with some initial validation. | 20:53 |
| m-greene- | the review link seems weird to me | 20:53 |
| xgerman | yeah, it is weird | 20:53 |
| m-greene- | they want to specify the SG as an lb-create param, and have us proxy that request to the neutron-port | 20:53 |
| m-greene- | what if multiple LBs use the same subnet | 20:54 |
| m-greene- | well, this is per-port | 20:54 |
| johnsom | We currently manage a security group on each port we create/manage | 20:54 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:54 |
| xgerman | and mostly we open the port you put the listener on | 20:54 |
| johnsom | It only allows the TCP ports that are defined for the listener | 20:54 |
| johnsom | (s) | 20:55 |
| m-greene- | we create other ports as part of our vendor implementation, not necessarily related to the LB service. Attaching the SG might break things. | 20:56 |
| johnsom | It is true, if we do the API approach, we could either use neutron security groups or use HAProxy ACLs. HAPRoxy ACLs and vendor ACLs probably have more capability | 20:56 |
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| johnsom | This would only be on the VIP port we hand you. I think.... | 20:56 |
| m-greene- | What problem does this solve that cannot be solved by attaching the SG youself to the port? | 20:56 |
| johnsom | They don't own the VIP port, our service account does | 20:57 |
| m-greene- | seems like a workflow change | 20:57 |
| johnsom | They can't see the current security group/port | 20:57 |
| xgerman | nor can they attach somethign to it | 20:57 |
| m-greene- | ok | 20:57 |
| nmagnezi | what I still don't understand is how will we validate that the sec group does not conflict with the listeners? | 20:57 |
| johnsom | So, we are about out of time. Maybe we should put this one on the next agenda to continue | 20:57 |
| johnsom | Yeah, it would be a lot of ugly parsing | 20:58 |
| xgerman | I think (1) feels the most feasible to me | 20:58 |
| m-greene- | they ::= person invoking heat stack-create? | 20:58 |
| johnsom | I kind of like 1 myself. I think it gives us flexibility | 20:58 |
| nmagnezi | yeah, also one can add additional listeners in the future that might conflict. so this will not be so simple to resolve | 20:58 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:59 |
| johnsom | m-greene- They == end user creating a load balancer | 20:59 |
| m-greene- | so someone with elevated permissions within the tenant, not necessarily for the LB service | 20:59 |
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| xgerman | just LB service | 20:59 |
| xgerman | if you are elevated you cna slap stuff on our port today | 20:59 |
| xgerman | (though we will remove it when we do changes) | 20:59 |
| johnsom | End users, creating the load balancer, will not see the VIP neutron port if they do a "neutron port-list" as it is owned by the octavia/neutron service account | 21:00 |
| m-greene- | that’s what i am trying to understand. Can this be solved by the operator creating the right user permissions within keystone | 21:00 |
| xgerman | no | 21:00 |
| m-greene- | o | 21:00 |
| m-greene- | k | 21:00 |
| johnsom | Ok. Out of time. | 21:00 |
| johnsom | Thanks folks! | 21:00 |
| xgerman | Thanks | 21:00 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 22 21:00:48 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-03-22-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| m-greene- | thanks | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-03-22-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-03-22-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
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