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masahitoHi all, priteau, hiro-kobayashi, bertys____,09:00
priteauHello09:01
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hiro-kobayashio/09:01
masahito#startmeeting blazar09:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 31 09:01:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'09:01
masahito#chars priteau hiro-kobayashi09:01
masahito#char priteau hiro-kobayashi09:01
masahito#chair priteau hiro-kobayashi09:02
openstackCurrent chairs: hiro-kobayashi masahito priteau09:02
masahito#topic Roll call09:02
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masahitoo/09:02
priteau\o09:02
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hiro-kobayashio/09:02
r-mibuo/09:02
bertys____hi09:02
tejaswio/09:02
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masahitohi tejaswi09:02
tejaswihi masahito09:03
masahitohi r-mibu09:03
masahitoToday's agenda is..09:03
r-mibuhi all09:03
masahito1. Action items from last call09:03
masahito2. CFP of the Boston Summit09:03
masahito3. Tempest09:03
masahito4. Status Update09:03
masahitoanything else?09:03
priteauYes: congratulations to masahito our new PTL!09:04
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masahitopriteau: thanks!09:04
masahitook, let's move on to first.09:04
priteaubecause there is only your candidacy you are de-facto elected09:05
masahito#topic action items from last meeting09:05
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masahitopriteau: I try to move it work well as possible as I can :->09:06
priteau#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-01-24-09.00.html09:06
masahitoDo you all have any update for action items?09:06
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masahitopriteau: thanks the link.09:06
masahitoI started to draft #2 summit proposal. I'll mention it in next topic.09:07
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priteauMy investigation of API v1 vs v2 has been blocked by an issue with Keystone auth, but I finally found a solution to it yesterday. I will submit a patch soon.09:08
bertys____priteau: great, thanks09:08
masahitopriteau: great.09:08
hiro-kobayashigreat109:08
r-mibupriteau: nice!09:08
masahitopriteau: tempest test also hit the bug.09:08
priteauWith recent devstack versions blazar-manager requests to Nova fail to authenticate. I changed the way we call Nova to use a proper mechanism for token usage.09:09
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priteauI am not sure exactly what triggered the issue, I think it's stricter validation in Keystone09:09
priteauThe issue doesn't show up when I use Newton09:09
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priteauSo I am finishing testing this, will submit the patch which should help tempest too, and then resume work on v1 vs v209:10
GeraldKHi. Sorry. I am late. Had some issues connecting...09:10
masahitothanks a lot09:10
hiro-kobayashiGeraldK: hi09:11
masahitoGeraldK: good morning09:11
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masahitoGeraldK: do you have any update from action items?09:11
masahitohttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-01-24-09.00.html09:12
masahitothen, move on to next.09:13
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masahito#topic CFP of the Boston summit09:13
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hiro-kobayashiThank you very much for reviewing proposal 109:14
GeraldKThanks to NTT to having started drafted the second proposal for the Summit. I have done some edits.09:14
priteauI reviewed proposal 109:14
hiro-kobayashipriteau: thanks!09:14
priteaumade some little changes09:14
GeraldKThere was no other action item for me from last week.09:14
masahitoThere're great progress!09:14
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masahitoGeraldK: got it. and thanks the review.09:14
hiro-kobayashiNow we have to chose presenters for proposal 109:15
hiro-kobayashiOf course I'm okay to be one of presenters09:15
masahitohiro-kobayashi: yes.09:15
priteauthere is still one thing strange in proposal 1: in "What should attendees expect to learn? (1000 chars):", it says "for getting guaranteed availability of resources on the infinite capacity of clouds". Shouldn't it be "for getting guaranteed availability of resources in finite capacity clouds"?09:15
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masahito+1 for the presenter.09:16
masahito+1 for hiro-kobayashi is the presenter.09:16
hiro-kobayashipriteau: right. I will fix the proposal09:16
hiro-kobayashithanks!09:16
priteauThanks hiro-kobayashi for volunteering to present09:17
hiro-kobayashiCandidates for proposal 1 are me, priteau, r-mibu, GeraldK09:17
GeraldKI am okay if Ryota wants to be a presenter09:17
priteauI will probably be there too (not 100% sure yet), we can split the presentation in two if you like09:17
r-mibuGeraldK, no please be a presenter09:17
GeraldK+1 for hiro-kobayashi and priteau09:18
r-mibuGeraldK, you did lots of requirement study and have use cases which audience want to learn09:18
hiro-kobayashiGeraldK: you are candidate for proposal 2, too09:19
GeraldKHonestly speaking, I am not sure 100% if I can join the Summit09:19
r-mibuGeraldK, then I'll be a bench warmer09:20
GeraldKAshiq or Bertrand could do it in case I cannot make it09:20
GeraldKMy name is on proposal 2 so r-mibu could do proposal 109:20
r-mibuif you, ashiq and Bertrand couldn't join, i can help the presentation09:21
masahitohiro-kobayashi: how many people can be listed the talk?09:21
hiro-kobayashi3 max.09:21
masahitothanks.09:21
r-mibuah, ok - got it09:22
masahitothen... the speakers for #1 are hiro-kobayashi, priteau, r-mibu, right?09:22
r-mibuyep09:22
priteauOK for me09:23
hiro-kobayashiOkay, then I will submit proposal 109:23
hiro-kobayashiwith presenters: me, priteau, r-mibu09:23
hiro-kobayashipriteau, r-mibu: Thanks a lot!09:23
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masahitohiro-kobayashi: thanks for leading the proposal.09:24
masahitoand for #209:24
masahitothe speakers might be GeraldK, me and other?09:25
GeraldK Sorry, I had been looking at the wrong meeting . I plan to join the Summit so okay to present #2.09:25
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GeraldKHPE has confirmed to have 1 speaker for #209:25
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masahitoIMO, it's good if there are some folks from HPE or PWG09:25
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masahitoGeraldK: do you know the name of the guy?09:26
tejaswiTariq or Arun from HPE will be available at the summit for #209:26
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masahitotejaswi: Could you tell me the contact for them b/c I need to add their OpenStack ID to submit the proposal.09:27
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masahitoI'm not sure we can change the speaker after due date.09:28
masahitotejaswi: it's ok by e-mail, of course :-)09:29
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tejaswimasahito: ok. I can give you email Ids - tariq.khan@hpe.com, arun.thulasi@hpe.com09:29
masahitogot it. I'll have contact to them.09:30
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masahitoany updates for CFP?09:30
GeraldKShould be possible to change the speaker but probably not through the portal but only via helpdesk09:30
masahitoGeraldK: thanks.09:31
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masahito#topic Tempest09:31
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masahitoI pushed the patch that tests host reservation scenario.09:32
masahitohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/425547/1109:32
masahitoAfter the patch is merged the tempest job will be revived09:33
priteauIs the "Internal Server Error" that you are seeing the same one that I see in devstack?09:33
masahitopriteau: I guess.09:33
priteauyep09:34
priteauconfirmed in blazar-manager logs: http://logs.openstack.org/47/425547/11/check/gate-blazar-devstack-dsvm/4dfb014/logs/screen-blazar-m.txt.gz09:34
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bertys____priteau: thanks again09:34
priteauI created a bug for it09:34
priteau#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/blazar/+bug/166056409:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1660564 in Blazar "climate host-create fails with Keystone authentication error" [Critical,New] - Assigned to Pierre Riteau (priteau)09:34
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masahitoIt happens in utils.openstack.nova.py, right?09:35
priteauyes09:35
priteauthat's the code my patch fixes09:35
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masahitoI believe your patch fix the error.09:35
priteauI should be able to push it to Gerrit latter today09:35
masahitoAnd I'll also revise some test scenario errors I found in local.09:36
masahitoIt looks like we've almost done fix tempest.09:37
priteauThat's great!09:37
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masahitoThe next step is updating namespace.09:37
masahitoDo we try to fix it next?09:38
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priteauI would like to get all the oslo fixes in first09:38
priteauI started to review them09:38
hiro-kobayashipriteau: thank you for your review!09:39
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priteauCan we revisit namespace update at next week meeting?09:39
hiro-kobayashiYou help me greatly09:39
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masahitopriteau: np09:39
priteauand aim to have tempest + oslo merged by then09:39
hiro-kobayashi+109:40
bertys____priteau: +109:40
r-mibugreat work, guys09:40
masahitomake sense.09:40
masahito#agreed update the namespace after tempest and oslo patch are merged09:41
masahitoanything else for tempest?09:41
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masahito#topic Status Update09:43
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masahitoI think it's first time to do status update, so I'll start first :-)09:44
masahitoAs I mentioned before, I tried to fix and add tempest scenario test. And it's in review.09:44
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priteauThanks masahito for all the work you're doing on Blazar + Tempest09:45
masahitoAdditionally, I'm working on writing release note for our first release after revivied.09:45
masahitothat's from my side.09:45
masahitopriteau: wants to start?09:46
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priteauFor me it is mostly about working on bug that I mentioned above. Also did some reviews, more to come09:46
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masahitopriteau: thanks for working it09:48
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masahitohiro-kobayashi: wants to start?09:48
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hiro-kobayashiokay. I have been trying to replaces oslo-incubator code. 5 patches are in review now. And I will push a new patch about oslo.policy soon.09:49
hiro-kobayashiAnd I will submit a proposal 1 for Boston summit, tomorrow09:49
masahitohiro-kobayashi: thanks the great works!09:49
hiro-kobayashiI want priteau, r-mibu to check your presenter information. I will send you a link.09:50
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r-mibuhiro-kobayashi, ok - thanks09:50
hiro-kobayashihttps://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/call-for-presentations/manage/17558/summary09:50
hiro-kobayashiCould you open the URL?09:51
r-mibuyes09:51
hiro-kobayashiGood. then please check forms, especially your speaker info09:51
r-mibuok09:52
hiro-kobayashiI will submit the proposal after r-mibu and priteau telling me it's okay09:52
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hiro-kobayashiThat's all for my status updates09:53
priteauhiro-kobayashi: I can access it, I will check it ASAP09:53
hiro-kobayashipriteau, r-mibu: thanks!09:53
masahitothanks hiro-kobayashi.09:53
masahitor-mibu: wants to start?09:54
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r-mibusorry, start what?09:56
masahitor-mibu: status update if you have :-)09:56
r-mibuah, ok - but, i have no update - so sorry09:56
masahitor-mibu: np :-)09:57
r-mibuI had busy week in OPNFV, but will check patches in this week09:57
masahitor-mibu: thanks. It helps us.09:58
masahitotejaswi: do you have any update?09:58
tejaswimasahito: I have no updates yet because we are still trying to get the devstack setup ready09:58
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masahitotejaswi: do you need any help?09:59
GeraldKTejaswi please contact other team members to support you on this.09:59
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priteautejaswi contacted me, I tried to help but I have never seen the errors he is seeing10:00
tejaswiI got some help from masahito and priteau. I will let you know if I cannot fix this by tomorrow10:00
priteauHave you tried in a fresh VM?10:00
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tejaswiyes10:00
tejaswiI am using a new Ubuntu 16.04 VM10:00
priteauI use CentOS710:01
r-mibui suppose openstack infra using ubuntu 16.04 for CI10:02
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masahito_sorry, disconnected.10:03
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masahito_oops, we're running out time..10:03
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masahito_Could we continue to talk it in #openstack-blazar?10:04
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masahito_GeraldK, bertys____, so sorry we can't go you both...10:04
masahito_I'll change the way of time management in the next meeting.10:04
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masahito_thanks all10:06
hiro-kobayashithanks!10:06
masahito_#endmeeting10:06
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hiro-kobayashibye10:06
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priteaubye all10:06
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EmilienM#startmeeting tripleo14:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 31 14:01:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tripleo'14:01
jristo/14:01
EmilienM#topic agenda14:01
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EmilienM* review past action items14:01
EmilienM* one off agenda items14:01
trowno/14:01
EmilienM* bugs14:01
bkeroo/14:01
EmilienM* Projects releases or stable backports14:01
EmilienM* CI14:01
EmilienM* Specs14:01
EmilienM* open discussion14:01
EmilienM#info Anyone can use the #link, #action and #info commands, not just the moderatorǃ14:01
EmilienM#link notes from previous meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-01-24-14.00.html14:01
EmilienMHi, who is here today?14:01
jtomaseko/14:01
mwhahahao/14:01
shardyo/14:01
pandao/14:01
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jpicho/14:02
bkerolots of people14:02
beagleso/14:02
jpichall the people14:02
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jristEmilienM: link me the one off items again please?14:02
matbuo/14:03
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EmilienMjrist: please wait, it's on the agenda14:03
jristk14:03
EmilienM#topic review past action items14:03
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EmilienM1. (postponed) weshay, matbu, sofer to create a tripleo blueprint for multinode nodepool oooq based upgrade job: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/tripleo-composable-upgrade-job14:03
EmilienM2. bandini and EmilienM to work on scenario005 when composable-ha patches are landed: WIP14:03
EmilienM3. team to review validation work https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416284/ / https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418507/ / https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419506/: done & released14:03
ansiweno/14:03
EmilienM4. team to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421242/: done14:03
EmilienMnothing postponed this week.14:03
EmilienM#topic one off agenda items14:04
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EmilienM#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items14:04
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EmilienMshardy: o/14:04
shardyEmilienM: Hi!14:04
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EmilienMshardy: do we have a launchpad blueprint or bug for Contrail FFE?14:04
shardySo, I wanted to draw attention to some work pushed by mhenkel last week14:04
michapma_alto/14:04
weshayo/.14:04
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cdearborno/14:04
shardyit's two large patches, but they're mostly only contrail templates/profiles, it touches only the haproxy.pp and endpoint map14:05
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shardywhat do we think about a FFE for this?14:05
EmilienMit should be ok14:05
EmilienMas long as we don't add a risk to break CI on this one14:05
shardyEmilienM: there's a bug, but it's not got a lot of detail:14:05
EmilienMbut it's not the case AFICT14:05
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EmilienMshardy: the bug will be helpful for us to track it during RC14:05
shardyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/165956014:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1659560 in tripleo "Contrail services assigned to wrong roles" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Michael Henkel (mhenkel-3)14:05
shardyEmilienM: ^^14:05
EmilienMmoved to ocata-rc114:05
shardyprobably, it should have been a blueprint given the size/nature of the change, but we can track it with that14:06
shardyEmilienM: thanks!14:06
shardySo the other thing was14:06
EmilienMyeah, next time please create a blueprint14:06
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shardywhat should we do for large vendor integrations like this which we can't test in CI?14:06
shardyI wondered if in future we should have an "extras" or "contrib" directory14:06
EmilienMso I see different options14:06
shardyto show the pieces which are included, but not necessarily tested every commit14:06
trownideally the vendor will setup some CI that can run as third-party14:06
EmilienMtrown: yes, that14:07
beagles+1 trown14:07
shardytrown: Yeah, in this case that may happen, but we don't know when14:07
EmilienMtrown: like it's done in Cinder / Neutron / ... gates14:07
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EmilienMif it doesn't happen, I'm in favor of maintaining their code in-tree14:07
trownya, I think our current model is a bit hard to just stand up somewhere else14:07
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trownthat is one of the big goals of quickstart based CI though14:07
EmilienMI'm afraid that code out of tree might be outdated and wouldn't work with our most recent interface all the time :/14:07
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shardyEmilienM: yeah, well I think we need to be careful not to break the service plugin interfaces14:08
shardybut we can definitely help keep things updated more easily if they're included14:08
shardyI was just worred about confusion about which services are actually tested14:08
mwhahahawe need a way to test those interfaces14:08
mwhahahaso we know when we break them14:08
EmilienMmwhahaha: like a lint test?14:08
shardymwhahaha: Yeah - having some CI that runs on a different repo would help with that14:09
mwhahahait doesn't have to be a real integration, but we need to come up with a proper test suite14:09
shardyso we can't break the interfaces in one commit14:09
EmilienMmaybe a tht-lint thing?14:09
shardymwhahaha: yeah that's a very good idea14:09
shardymaybe we can use an all-in-one heat similar to dprince's undercloud installer patch14:09
EmilienMcould someone create a blueprint for that?14:09
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shardyOk, so it sounds like we're OK to go ahead and merge these as-is modulo reviews14:10
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shardybut perhaps in pike we'll talk more about ways to enforce the interfaces and maybe flag things that aren't tested via a directory move or docs14:10
shardyanything else to add before we move on?14:10
EmilienMshardy: +114:10
EmilienMjrist: o/14:11
jristhi!14:11
jristRelease Notes for TripleO-UI - some contention as to the need for the python for reno14:11
jristEmilienM: jtomasek had mentioned he is wondering if we can skip reno somehow14:11
EmilienMI saw that in the patch14:11
EmilienMstrongly NO14:11
jristpersonally I don't care14:11
EmilienM:)14:11
jristok14:11
jristdone14:11
jrist:)14:12
EmilienMrelease note are useful for our users14:12
EmilienMit makes popular and understable what you folks are doing14:12
beaglesrelease notes are a goodness14:12
jtomasekEmilienM: I am not saying skip reno, I am asking if we can put the reno related setup somewhere else then root of the project14:12
EmilienMhaving release notes will help our community to understand what we deliver each cycle14:12
EmilienMjtomasek: no we can't14:12
jtomasekto avoid having a bunch of python cruft in root of js project14:12
EmilienMthe release notes are in-tree14:12
EmilienMjtomasek: you can maybe talk with dhellmann about this topic14:13
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EmilienMjtomasek: he created reno14:13
jtomasekEmilienM: ok, I'll check with him14:13
EmilienMjtomasek: we have the same thing in Puppet modules14:13
EmilienMjtomasek: and we survived!14:13
EmilienMjtomasek: another alternative is to not use reno14:13
EmilienMand maintain a releasenote file14:13
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dhellmannwhat are you thinking about moving?14:14
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EmilienMdhellmann: releasenotes/14:14
dhellmannkeep in mind that the upstream CI jobs for publishing release notes are set up in one place14:14
jtomasekdhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/42597914:14
shardydhellmann: Hi!  We want to maintain release notes for tripleo-ui, but it's not a python project14:14
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shardydhellmann: jtomasek would prefer to avoid having the reno related files in the repo, so we're trying to figure out the best path forward14:15
jtomasekdhellmann: It would be nice if we could keep the python setup which is used to generate release notes in a subdirectory of the project rather than root14:15
dhellmannyou'll need to maintain a custom release notes publishing job if you do that. so it's not impossible, but I wonder if it's worth the trouble?14:15
EmilienMjtomasek: do you have technical issues with these python files in root?14:16
shardyjtomasek: apart from cosmetics, what are the problems with having the files in the root of the project?14:16
jtomasekhm, ok, it is probably not worth the trouble14:16
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jtomasekconfusion it causes for new users is my concern14:16
* dhellmann nods14:16
EmilienMif there are non-cosmetics things, +1 for an alternative. Otherwise, I don't think it's worth it14:16
dhellmannit's not ideal. we could look at changing the job definition to be more flexible, but I would want to consult with infra on that, too14:17
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shardyI'd suggest we just live with it for now, and talk again if it actually does create significant confusion14:17
EmilienMshardy: +114:17
jtomasekok, fair14:17
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shardyprobably a README in the repo is all that's needed to explain things to new devs14:17
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dhellmannsounds good14:18
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EmilienMdhellmann: thanks for your help14:18
dhellmannany time!14:18
shardythanks dhellmann14:18
EmilienMjtomasek, jrist: anything else?14:18
jristwell14:18
jristwhat's the conclusion? :)14:18
jristkeep reno until we patch infra for a different method?14:18
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shardyjrist: that we use reno, and live with the files14:19
jristand if we come up with something else, we can patch later14:19
jristdone14:19
shardyand talk again if it causes significant problems14:19
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shardyand/or we think of a better way14:19
EmilienMconclusion, we keep reno in-tree for now, document it in README if needed (or elsewhere) and adjust with infra if really needed14:19
jristthanks14:19
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EmilienMjrist: all good?14:19
EmilienMcool14:19
EmilienM#topic bugs14:19
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EmilienM#info ocata-3 bugs moved to ocata-rc114:19
EmilienM#link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/ocata-rc114:19
EmilienM#info 32 Triaged, 34 In Progress14:19
EmilienM#info Please use ocata-rc1 target for Critical / High bugs14:19
EmilienM#info Please use pike-1 target: Medium / Low / Wishlist bugs14:19
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EmilienM#action Team to move Low/Medium/Wishlist from ocata-rc1 to pike-114:20
EmilienMI'll start this task today but any help is very welcome14:20
EmilienMI don't use a Python script to do it because I want to see case by case, sometimes a bug is almost fixed (patch under review, etc)14:21
EmilienMdo we have any outstanding bug to discuss this week?14:21
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EmilienMjust a note, the focus now should be on fixing Critical / High bugs on time for ocata-rc114:23
dtantsuryeah, just wanted to ask: is bumping bugs really effective in making people concentrate on the remaining ones?14:23
pandaurgh my UPS is exploding ... bbl14:23
* dtantsur asks provocative questions14:23
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EmilienMdtantsur: how can you force folks to work on something?14:23
EmilienMdtantsur: sharing the vision & roadmap is the only thing we can do as a team14:24
EmilienMif folks want to work on pike-1 bugs, well... :-)14:24
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shardydtantsur: FWIW I find it helpful to focus review attention14:24
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dtantsurshardy, me too, just wondering if it actually works. didn't work to well for us, honestly.14:24
shardyin the days before release I'll review the open bugs every few days and try to close as many as possible14:24
dtantsurignore me, if you have other business to talk about during this meeting, I'm mostly thinking aloud14:25
EmilienMI'm wondering if you like my emails about short term roadmaps, so folks can know priorities in tripleo?14:25
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dtantsurEmilienM, do you send such? in ironic we decide week roadmap every weekly meeting, works quite well.14:25
EmilienMdtantsur: it sounds like a good idea14:25
jpichI think pointing out the important stuff can help, yes :)14:26
EmilienMdtantsur: yes I used to send some emails like this, in async though14:26
EmilienMdtantsur: I'm glad you read them ! lol14:26
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dtantsurwe also put the priorities on our official whiteboard for people like me ;) https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard14:26
EmilienMI would try next meeting to add a topic for week roadmap14:26
dtantsur(see line 66)14:26
EmilienM#action EmilienM to add 'week roadmap' to next meeting agenda14:27
EmilienMwell, I think Launchpad already gives us this kind of information14:27
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dtantsurwell... I don't think so, especially not in the middle of a cycle14:27
EmilienMmhh interesting14:28
dtantsurwe used it to concentrate on certain features every week that are 1. of priority, 2. ready to receive active attention14:28
EmilienMthoughts on ^?14:28
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shardyWe tried etherpad for priorities a few times - it always ends with everyone putting their stuff on there, so everything is a priority ;)14:28
EmilienMshardy: ha, was it for mitaka cycle?14:29
shardyat least with launchpad we have a way to groom the tasks14:29
EmilienMor liberty, I can't recall14:29
jpichMy impression is that it's more useful toward the end, when there can be a lot of "High" priority stuff but we know we won't be able to land everything, so focusing attention can help...14:29
EmilienMif we have all bugs / blueprints in launchpad with the right milestone, i don't think we need to duplicate in an etherpad14:29
dtantsurwe ask people not to put anything there :) it's populated by the PTL/meeting chair14:29
shardye.g by bumping something to pike, or setting it low priority, you communicate to at least the core team that it's not a priority until after the release14:29
* bkero is reminded of bugzilla's P1, P2 ... P6 for priority sorting.14:29
jpichbut TripleO is fairly decent at triaging bugs so Launchpad could easily be The Source14:29
dtantsurack, I just shared our approach :)14:30
shardydtantsur: cool, well it's possibly worth trying again, thanks for sharing :)14:30
jtomasekI see launchpad as a good tool for this if used properly14:30
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EmilienMdtantsur: and we like having your feedback, thanks. I'll clone your idea of week roadmap if you don't mind14:30
EmilienMdtantsur: it might be useful for some folks14:30
dtantsursure!14:31
EmilienMdtantsur: and read tripleo emails ! lol14:31
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dtantsurwell, I have the [tripleo] tag enable, dunno why I don't see them....14:31
EmilienMdo we have anything else about $topic?14:31
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EmilienM#topic Projects releases or stable backports14:31
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EmilienM#link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html14:31
EmilienM#info python-tripleoclient 6.0.0 is released14:31
EmilienM#link http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/python-tripleoclient/ocata.html#id114:32
EmilienM#info python-tripleoclient has stable/ocata branch14:32
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EmilienMThanks everyone involved in that, specially tripleoclient contributors!14:32
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pandaphew14:32
jpichRelease notes :)14:32
EmilienMThis week is feature and CI freeze, which means we will block all new features in TripleO (and big changes in CI), except the one where a blueprint has been accepted for ocata-rc1.14:32
EmilienMI already moved all remaining blueprints to ocata-rc1 but some of them will probably move to pike-1. I'll talk with owners case by case if needed.14:32
EmilienMFeel free to reach out for FFE if you're working on a feature that you want in Ocata (openstack-dev).14:33
EmilienM#action TripleO core reviewers to block new features in TripleO unless FFE has been granted.14:33
EmilienM#action EmilienM to work on TripleO RC1 schedule and propose it on openstack-dev14:33
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EmilienM#action EmilienM to move remaining blueprints to pike-1 when needed14:33
EmilienMthoughts?14:33
shardyEmilienM: to clarify, do you want an email to openstack-dev asking for a FFE if a blueprint is already targetted to ocata-1?14:33
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shardyor is that the list you've already accepted by talking to folks?14:33
EmilienMshardy: yes and block everything else that is a feature14:33
shardyEmilienM: Ok will do14:34
EmilienMshardy: I didn't accept anything yet14:34
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EmilienMI'll start to look at the list today14:34
shardybeagles: ^^ related to my comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411874/14:34
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EmilienMok in other words :14:34
* dtantsur is sorry as it seems like he sneak-merged node autodiscovery14:34
beaglesshardy: yup, thanks btw!14:34
EmilienM"if your blueprint is not implemented now, you're candidate for sending FFE"14:34
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shardydtantsur: heh, yeah I did think that after I approve it...14:35
dtantsurlol, don't worry, things happen, I won't blame you ;)14:35
jpichDeadline for not needing FFE is Thursday then?14:35
EmilienM#action EmilienM sends a reminder about FFE / RC1 policy on openstack-dev14:35
shardyjpich: No it was last Friday AFAIK14:35
EmilienMshardy: well14:36
EmilienMin TripleO we are cool14:36
jpichshardy: With the cycle-trailing thing I'm never too sure...14:36
shardyjpich: ah, true14:36
EmilienMso I would let until Friday to folks who want FFE14:36
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shardyEmilienM: Ok, sounds good, thanks14:36
EmilienMand I'll send an email today14:36
jpichCool, thanks14:37
EmilienMany question / feedback so far?14:37
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EmilienM#topic CI14:37
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EmilienM#link http://tripleo.org/cistatus.html14:37
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EmilienMso CI looks pretty stable this week14:38
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EmilienMI would like to share a new Trello board, that folks dealing with issues are using14:38
EmilienM#link https://trello.com/b/WXJTwsuU/tripleo-and-rdo-ci-status14:38
EmilienMthis Trello board is useful to track the different issues we have between RDO & TripleO CIs14:38
EmilienMwe still rely on Launchpad to track the bugs14:38
pandaI'd like to say something about the freeze14:39
EmilienMpanda: sure, go ahead14:39
pandait seems inevitable to propose and merge small very useful changes, despite the freeze14:39
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EmilienMpanda: "no big change", that's it14:40
pandabut since we are transitioning, all those changes have to be ported to quickstart14:40
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EmilienMpanda: in other words: "please don't add a risk to break jobs"14:40
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pandaI'd like to ask people, when proposing changes to tripleo-ci, to try and propose the equivalent change in quickstart too14:40
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trownhmm... I also understood CI feature freeze to be actual freeze14:41
trownkind of difficult to keep having full coverage via quickstart be a moving target14:41
EmilienMtrown: right, in theory we should be in "bugfix" mode until we release ocata14:41
pandaor at least open a bug, so keeping track of all the changes, now that the work for the transition has started, could be done more easily14:41
pandaor we'll find ourselves chasing all the small changes, and some of them may end up lost in transition14:42
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EmilienMpanda: we might want to announce that on mailing-list and also probably document it for our developers14:42
pandasure, I'll take care of this14:43
EmilienMok14:43
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EmilienM#action panda to email openstack-dev about quickstart & tripleo-ci changes14:44
EmilienManything else about CI?14:44
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ansiwenI have a question14:44
ansiwenhope it hasn't been addressed before:14:44
EmilienMshardy, marios: how is undercloud upgrade / overcloud upgrade CI jobs going?14:44
mariosEmilienM: more for matbu/shardy14:45
ansiwenhow could it happen that the python-pandas package requirements killed CI, is there something not properly gated?14:45
EmilienMansiwen: yes, the dependencies in RDO are not gated (yet)14:45
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EmilienMand AFIK they will be gates once RDO Cloud is alive14:45
EmilienMgated*14:45
matbushardy: looks pretty good14:46
matbuooops14:46
matbuEmilienM: ^14:46
matbui mean the OC upgrade14:46
matbui'm not if the UC upgrade is fixed now14:46
matbusure*14:46
EmilienMmatbu: ok, I'm still trying to make the scenario001 upgrade working but I have some issues with tripleo-ci, I'll catchup with shardy later14:46
EmilienMmatbu: it is14:46
shardyEmilienM: Yeah the oc upgrades job has been pretty stable, but there are a few services it's not currently testing14:46
EmilienMshardy: any blocker so far?14:47
ansiwenEmilienM: what time-period is that to be expected? weeks, months? it seems to me like a high risk.14:47
shardyin particular we need to land pacemaker and nova support, and get those tested14:47
EmilienMansiwen: I don't know14:47
shardyEmilienM: mainly we've been delayed figuring out all the nova things, but sounds like that is quite close now matbu ?14:47
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matbushardy: yep i hope14:47
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matbupacemaker is (almost?) done i think14:48
EmilienM(/me sends kudo to mwhahaha for all the work on puppet-nova)14:48
EmilienMmatbu: good progress14:48
EmilienManything on CI this week?14:48
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shardyEmilienM: Ok then no blockers, we need to keep testing and land the remaining patches this week14:48
EmilienMansiwen: you better ask this question on #rdo14:48
EmilienMshardy: ack14:48
EmilienM#topic Specs14:48
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shardyand do more manual testing of upgrades where operator driven computes happen14:48
EmilienM#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open14:48
EmilienMis there any spec to discuss this week?14:49
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shardyyeah kudos to mwhahaha and owalsh for all the nova help14:49
EmilienM#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ptg-pike14:49
EmilienMfor those who want to propose a design session14:49
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EmilienMif nothing about specs, I'll just open the discussion14:50
EmilienM#topic open discussion14:50
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EmilienMif you have any question, need review, or feedback, please go ahead14:50
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EmilienMok, thanks everyone14:51
EmilienMhave a good week and keep rocking!14:51
EmilienM#endmeeting14:51
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tmorin#startmeeting bgpvpn15:07
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 31 15:07:20 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:07
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:07
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tmorinhi everyone15:07
pcarverhi15:07
bobmelhi15:07
tmorinhi pcarver, hi bobmel15:07
tmorinhi doude (around ?)15:07
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doudeHi tmorin15:08
tmorinnot sure who else is around today...15:08
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tmorinlet's see what we can put on the agenda15:09
tmorina) OSC integration (doude)15:09
tmorinb) API doc and definition in neutron-lib (pcarver)15:09
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tmorinc) allow to filter per-network in the API (doude)15:10
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tmorind) bagpipe driver cleanups (tmorin)15:11
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tmorinanything else ?15:11
doudewaht about API constraint validation?15:12
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doudethe topic was opened by Mathieu but I'm not sure if we have some work in progress15:12
* doude looking at meeting logs15:13
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tmorindoude: no we haven't anything in progress15:13
tmorine) API constraint validation15:14
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tmorin#topic OSC integration15:14
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tmorindoude, want to give a status ?15:14
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doudeactually two +1 on the review, one from you tmorin15:15
tmorinyes, I guess we simply need core reviewers time15:15
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doudeyes I take care of all reviews last week15:16
doudewaiting now15:16
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tmorinihrachys ? kevinbenton ? would you have time for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416321/  (stadium implosion, BGPVPN OSC client merge into python-neutronclient)15:16
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tmorinamotoki: ^^ ?15:19
tmorinwell, we'll see...15:19
tmorinnext topic ?15:19
amotokitmorin: ack15:19
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tmorinamotoki: thanks :) !15:19
tmorin#topic API doc and definition in neutron-lib15:20
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tmorinpcarver: want to give an update ?15:20
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pcarverI'm still chipping away at both the ref and the def15:20
pcarverAm I the only one who has constant problems with Devstack?15:20
pcarverIt seems that every time I turn around stack.sh is bombing out again and I spend more time figuring out why it won't stack than I do working on the thing I wanted to work on.15:21
tmorinpcarver: well, devstack is sometimes cumbersome, but I don't have too much trouble with it these days, or gotten used to its quirks15:21
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tmorinfeel feel to ping me, I may be able to help15:21
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pcarverAnyway, there were a bunch of review comments questioning which http return codes are valid15:22
pcarverI haven't been able to get Devstack working to try to see which ones I can generate and which I can't.15:22
pcarverSo I addressed all other review comments, but not the ones about HTTP status codes.15:22
pcarverThat's for the API reference.15:23
pcarverFor the API definition I'm working on writing a test case for the RT/RD validator per boden's comment15:23
tmorinpcarver: another approach would be looking at the exceptions that the networking-bgpvpn code raises, and see to which HTTP code they map15:23
pcarvertmorin: If you can point me in the right direction I will. I don't know where to look.15:23
tmorinpcarver: I've see that the test_resource_map and  test_subresource_map  tests are failing (http://logs.openstack.org/82/413182/9/check/gate-neutron-lib-python27-ubuntu-xenial/4757845/testr_results.html.gz )15:24
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pcarverI think that's probably due to all the rebasing. They were passing at one point.15:24
pcarverI'll dig through and figure out what the cause is.15:25
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tmorinthere are two different things15:25
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tmorinone is that the generic unit test (test_resource_map) is trying to understand type:route_target_list but failing15:26
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tmorinbecause it's registered in bgpvpn module, not in the generic list15:26
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tmorinso whether we find a workaround for this validator to be known, or we'll have to define the validator in the generic list, like you were doing in a previous PS15:27
tmorinI didn't look at the other issue ('router_id' not in ('admin_state_up', 'id', 'description', 'name', 'network_id', ...)15:27
tmorinbut it is distinct15:28
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pcarveryes, for the second one I need to figure out where the list is being built. router_id IS in the tuple extension_attributes defined in test_bgpvpn.py15:28
tmorini'll have a look after the meeting15:28
pcarverbut maybe the test needs it somewhere else15:29
tmorinmaybe15:29
pcarverand I know it was passing at one point, but there have been multiple rebases since then15:29
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pcarverand I don't know git very well, the rebases have been dicey15:29
tmorinfor the unit test asked by boden, I guess we need to translate the unit tests for RT/RD that are currently in networking_bgpvpn, into tests for this validator15:30
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pcarverI've had to abort and retry a few of the rebases multiple times before it would go through15:30
pcarverso maybe something changed out from under me15:30
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tmorinthe test we have on RT/RD are currently in networking_bgpvpn.tests.unit.extensions.test_bgpvpn.BgpvpnExtensionTestCase._test_valid_field15:31
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tmorinthey are not unit tests for the validator though, but "overall tests" for all parameters15:31
pcarveroh, that should help. I was starting to write one from scratch. I'll take a look.15:31
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pcarverI'm looking at the validators in https://github.com/openstack/neutron-lib/blob/master/neutron_lib/tests/unit/api/test_validators.py and trying to write something similar in test_bgpvpn.py15:32
tmorinwriting a unit test should be as simple as: taking the values, feeding them into the validator, checking that it complain or not15:32
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tmorinpcarver: sounds good15:32
pcarverthe test itself isn't what I need to figure out, it's how the test is called in the whole neutron-lib framework15:33
pcarverI'm assuming I can write functions of the form 'def test_something(self):' inside of the class 'class BgpvpnDefinitionTestCase(base.DefinitionBaseTestCase):' in test_bgpvpn.py15:34
tmorinyes, exactly15:34
tmorinthen the unit tests framework will autodiscover it15:35
tmorinyou don't need anything else15:35
pcarverbut I'm not sure if I call validators.add_validator from there or if that's only for "standard" validators15:35
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pcarverIf we keep the rtrd one as a private method in the bgpvpn API def, I'm not sure if that affects how to call it15:36
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tmorinyou can import the bgpvpn module from the test module, and then directly call the validator function15:37
pcarverthat's what I figured. It's already imported15:38
pcarverI just wasn't sure if the add_validators part is important15:38
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tmorinI don't think it should15:38
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tmorintry the lazy/simple way first :)15:38
pcarverok15:39
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tmorinanything to discuss on the API documentation change ?15:39
tmorinapart from HTTP codes ?15:39
pcarverhmm, looking at the last patch set I pushed for the API def it looks like the rebase went wrong15:39
pcarverthe validator is completely gone and I didn't delete it15:40
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tmorinhmm15:40
tmorinthe good thing is that its not a more complex issue to solve :)15:40
pcarverI'll have to roll it back and try again. Git was giving me all sorts of merge conflict messages and suggestions for commands to run. I guess I ran the wrong ones.15:41
tmorinpcarver: yes, this kind of thing can be messy, anyone gets one wrong sometimes :)15:41
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tmorinnext topic maybe ?15:42
pcarversure15:42
tmorin#topic allow to filter per-network in the API15:42
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tmorinthis is about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426309/15:42
tmorinproposed by doude15:42
tmorindoude: I agree this is useful15:42
tmorinI was wondering whether we should do something more flexible (like what exists for tags)15:43
doudeyes I see your comments and I'm not sure to undertand it15:43
tmorinbut I feel this would be overkill15:43
doudeyes15:43
tmorinI need to review the code15:43
doudeactually API permits to provide a list of value for filter key15:43
tmorinif you can add a "implements blueprint api-find-bgpvpn-for-net" that would be nice15:44
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tmorinwe had tracked this limitations for a loong time15:44
doudeI mean in interface driver, the filter method param dict can contain a list of value to filter15:44
doudeI did not check how that could be implemented for db based drivers but the patch I proposed do the job for non db based drivers (=contrail)15:45
tmorinyes, but how that applies to an attribute that is also a list could be different things:  it could be "all the values in the filter should be in the attribute" or "at least one of the values ..."  etc.15:45
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doudeyes my proposed patch is limited to "all the values in the filter should be in the attribute"15:47
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tmorindoude: we need to have something that is consistant with the syntax used for tags= ... filter15:48
doudewhy?15:49
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tmorinwell, just to have consistant APIs across neutron modules for filtering on list attribute15:50
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tmorinI've just read http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/networking-guide/ops-resource-tags.html again15:51
tmorinboth definitions are consistant15:51
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tmorinif we want later to have a "at least one of the network should be associated ..." then we'll introduce network-any= filter15:52
tmorinthis is ok15:52
doudebut tag is a specific neutron extension15:52
doudeok15:52
tmorinI don't know if there are other places which provide filters for list attributes15:53
tmorinwe should provide API unit test and support for this filter for db-based drivers15:54
tmorindoude, would you be ok to look at this also ?15:54
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doudefor db-based driver?15:56
tmorinanything you can help on :)15:57
tmorinbut I guess the db-based driver support will make it easy to implement an API test15:58
doudeI'll try and if I'm lost you'll be the first person who know it ;)15:58
tmorinok :)15:58
tmorinwe're out of time15:58
tmorin#topic bagpipe driver cleanup15:58
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tmorinthis was about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425933/15:58
tmorinbut there isn't much to say15:59
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tmorinit depends on a neutron change15:59
tmorin#topic API constraint validation15:59
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tmorin-> I guess it will be for next week :-(15:59
tmorin#topic wrap up15:59
doudeok15:59
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tmorinfeel free to discuss in the bug15:59
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tmorinI think the key issue is that the solution on how to solve that is not easy at all :-(16:00
tmorinbye everyone16:00
tmorinrendez-vous next week :)16:00
tmorin#endmeeting16:00
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juggler#startmeeting containers16:05
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 31 16:05:55 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is juggler. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:05
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:05
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Drago1Oh, awesome. Thanks juggler16:06
strigazio/16:06
Drago1o/16:06
coreyobo/16:06
jugglerNot at roll call yet..please wait :)16:06
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jugglerOk..roll call ready... :)16:07
jugglero/16:07
strigazi\o/16:07
jvgrantJaycen Grant16:07
coreyobo/16:07
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Drago1Did you just want to be first, juggler?16:09
jugglerI'll just be presiding...16:09
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jugglerLooks like we have 1/24 Agenda still on the wiki. We'll improvise...16:09
juggler:)16:09
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Drago1juggler: Where's Adrian?16:10
Drago1Or if anyone else knows16:10
jugglerDrago1 Not sure...he might be running a little late or stuck in some work..16:10
juggler#topic Announcements16:10
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jugglerAny announcement folks?16:10
strigaziWe have a 4.0.0 tag \o/16:11
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Drago1Hooray!16:11
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randallburto/16:11
jugglerstrigazi Excellent!16:11
strigaziBut I don't know when we'll cut te branch16:11
swatson_d-(^_^)z16:11
strigazis/te/the16:11
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jugglerstrigazi Do you have an action to suggest?16:12
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strigaziah no, Adrian is handling the release16:12
jugglerstrigazi great16:12
jugglerAre there other announcements all?16:13
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jugglerAlright then...16:13
juggler#topic Review Action Items16:13
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jugglerAnyone have any Action Items they'd like to discuss?16:14
strigaziPTG session planning?16:14
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Drago1That's a good one16:14
jugglerstrigazi great!16:15
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strigazihttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-pike-ptg-sessions16:15
jugglerstrigazi offhand have there been any planning boards created for that?16:15
jugglerexcellent16:15
strigazino16:15
jugglerah16:15
strigaziThe above etherpad is empty16:15
strigaziwe can start I guess16:16
jugglersounds great...let me set up a basic roadmap...16:16
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randallburtplease tell me there are no "fishbowl" sessions at the PTG...16:18
jugglerthere do not have to be...just putting it in there for potential ideas16:18
jugglerthis is a brainstorm.16:18
randallburtk.16:18
jugglerok folks, browse to the link here and type in your ideas...16:18
juggler#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-pike-ptg-sessions16:19
jugglerall ideas are welcome!16:19
Drago1It's interesting watching how everyone types16:20
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juggleryou have about 4m left :)16:20
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jugglerfor the person who suggested "lets not do fishbowls", if you could also say why not so we can consider that as well...thank you!16:21
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jugglerhello dimtruck16:22
randallburtjuggler:  ok16:22
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coreyob+1s for things we agree with?16:23
jugglerwe'll get to the +1s after all the ideas are in...16:23
jvgrantcoreyob: yes, that helps judge interest for priority.  Just getting ideas right now though16:23
juggler1m left for ideas...16:23
jugglerfor those just joining us, we are putting ideas into etherpad:16:24
juggler#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-pike-ptg-sessions16:24
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juggleralright..please finish up your etherpad ideas folks...16:24
adrian_ottosorry for my late arrival16:24
jugglerlots of great ones16:24
juggleradrian_otto no worries..welcome!16:25
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jugglerfor those just joining us, we are putting ideas into etherpad:16:25
juggler#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-pike-ptg-sessions16:25
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jugglerok are there any other critical ideas for the etherpad?16:26
adrian_ottothanks juggler for starting the meeting. I read the transcript for the part I missed. I have more to add for announcements.16:27
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adrian_ottoany objections to covering that now?16:27
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strigaziGo ahead Adrian16:28
jugglerfeel free to also add your +1s to the etherpad in the background..16:28
jugglergo ahead adrian_otto16:28
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juggler#topic Announcements16:29
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adrian_ottothe PTL nomination window closed over the weekend, and the PTL position was not challended, so there will not be a PTL election for Magnum for Pike. I will serve as your PTL for this cycle.16:29
Drago1+1 adrian_otto16:29
juggler+116:30
randallburtadrian_otto:  I for one welcome our previous Adrian overlord16:30
adrian_ottoany questions or concerns?16:30
ricolin+1:)16:30
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jasond+116:30
Drago1I'm super concerned16:30
strigazi+116:30
Drago1Just kidding16:30
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chris_hultin+116:30
adrian_ottoDrago1: please allow to to address your concerns16:30
adrian_ottook, I figured as much16:30
jvgrant+116:30
Drago1:)16:30
jugglerruh roh lol16:30
swatson_seems ok to me16:30
adrian_ottoalright, so next topic16:30
adrian_ottowe are in hard freeze this week16:31
adrian_ottothat means we will only be merging bug fixes, not features.16:31
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adrian_ottoas mentioned earlier this meting, there are new release tags for magnum and python-magnumclient16:32
strigaziCan I ask for a small one super userfull https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405374/ admission control plugins16:32
adrian_ottoany discussion about the release?16:32
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strigazis/userfull/useful16:32
randallburtadrian_otto:  so tags are already cut but we haven't branched yet, correct?16:33
strigaziyes ^^16:33
adrian_ottorandallburt: yes16:33
randallburtcool16:33
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adrian_ottoso strigazi I am willing to entertain an FFE for the 405374 contribution. To consider that, I'd like you to send a message to the openstack-dev mailing list with subject tags [magnum] [release] and explain the rationale for the exception.16:34
strigaziok, thanks16:34
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adrian_ottoif you'd like to express the reasoning here as well, we might be able to help shape that16:35
adrian_ottowe can return to it after juggler has finished guiding us through the Pike PTG planning agenda item.16:35
Drago1One thing to note is that it doesn't affect the magnum engine, just drivers16:35
strigaziIt's more of a missing feature in k8s. It is recommended by the k8s community to use in all k8s deployments16:35
adrian_ottoDrago1: yes, that's an important detail to explain. Be sure to explain it in a way that those on the release team that are not familiar with Magnum internals can really grasp the difference and why it matters.16:36
adrian_otto(impact to one driver, not all)16:36
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strigazimakes sense16:36
jugglerall: please append your +1s to vote for items at:16:36
juggler#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-pike-ptg-sessions16:37
adrian_ottook, those are the announcement items I wanted to cover.16:37
* adrian_otto looks at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-pike-ptg-sessions16:37
Drago1Should we give more time to collect topics?16:37
juggler#topic Pike Planning agenda voting16:37
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jugglertake about 4m now to vote please16:38
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randallburtis there a reason to finish the pike planning/voting during this meeting? May want to take the week to brainstorm and provide feedback16:40
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jasondwho is light red?16:41
jugglerlight red contributor, please place your name at the top of the etherpad...thank you!16:41
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randallburtjasond:  me I think, tho colors may be different16:41
randallburtoh whoops16:41
jasondrandallburt: what design session format do you prefer?16:42
randallburtjasond:  not sure what you mean.16:43
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jasondrandallburt: i only see Fishbowls, Work sessions, and Contributors meetups on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit16:43
randallburtjasond:  dunno if that applies to the PTG. I'm hoping the PTG is all Work Sessions and Cross Project stuff16:44
randallburtjasond:  more like a mid-cycle16:44
jugglerdo we wish to delay the vote on this for more voting? if so, please chime in now...16:44
randallburtor like they were16:44
jasondrandallburt: oh ok, should we relabel first section "work sessions"?16:44
randallburtjuggler:  yes IMO. I think taking the week would be helpful16:44
Drago1juggler: +1, at least give the community some time, especially if they're not at the meeting right now16:44
Drago1Send a message out on the ML16:44
randallburtjuggler:  maybe a post on the dev ML to let people chime in?16:45
randallburtDrago1:  jinx16:45
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juggler#action Community to brainstorm and vote on etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-pike-ptg-sessions16:45
juggler#topic Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas16:46
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jugglerAny input on Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas all?16:46
jasondrandallburt: BTW, the summit is the new midcycle https://www.openstack.org/ptg/#tab_faq16:46
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jvgrantNew and smaller versions of node group specs are now up for review16:47
jvgranthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/425431/16:47
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jvgranthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/425422/16:47
jvgranthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/427060/16:48
jvgranta couple more will be added soon16:48
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jugglerjvgrant excellent16:48
Drago1Thanks jvgrant16:48
strigaziI don't have some thing this week, last week was f25 week for me, sorry16:49
strigazibut we have k8s 1.5.216:49
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strigaziif that helps16:49
juggler#action post on the dev ML regarding etherpad brainstorm/vote to let people provide feedback16:49
jugglerAny other discussion on Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas?16:50
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adrian_ottocan probably advance to open discussion16:51
juggler#topic Open Discussion16:51
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jugglerall: Have you any open discussion items?16:52
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jugglerFeel free to provide your feedback now..16:52
jasondi encountered a microversioning bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/165943116:52
openstackLaunchpad bug 1659431 in Magnum "Unexpected response from microversioned API" [Undecided,New]16:52
jasondif someone could please confirm/triage it16:53
strigaziit says bay_uuid16:53
adrian_ottothanks jasond16:53
adrian_ottoI'll look at it16:53
jugglerty jasond16:53
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jugglerty adrian_otto16:54
juggler#action adrian_otto Confirm/triage potential bug 165943116:54
openstackbug 1659431 in Magnum "Unexpected response from microversioned API" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165943116:54
jugglerany other open discussion items?16:55
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swatson_Migration tests are finally review-ready: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410962/16:56
jugglerty swatson_16:56
adrian_ottojasond: would you like me to assign https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1659431 to you for resolution, or should we seek another contributor to address the defect?16:56
openstackLaunchpad bug 1659431 in Magnum "Unexpected response from microversioned API" [Medium,Triaged]16:56
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jasondadrian_otto: sure, i can look into it16:57
adrian_ottook, thanks16:57
jugglerNext meeting is scheduled for 2/716:57
jugglerThank you all for participating. We enjoyed your input today.16:57
juggler#endmeeting16:57
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adrian_ottothanks again juggler for helping with the chair duties today.16:57
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juggleradrian_otto you're welcome!!16:58
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jugglerFeel free to join us in #openstack-containers for more discussion16:59
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kzaitsev_mb#startmeeting murano17:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 31 17:01:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'murano'17:01
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kzaitsev_mb#topic rollcall17:01
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kzaitsev_mbo/17:01
felipemonteiro_O/17:01
kzaitsev_mbfelipemonteiro_: hi =) congrats on becoming a PTL-elect =))17:02
learnmore_o/17:02
felipemonteirokzaitsev_mb: Thank you, couldn't have done it with you & your team's support.17:03
learnmore_Congrats!17:03
felipemonteirolearnmore_: Thanks17:03
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kzaitsev_mb#topic Open Discussion17:04
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kzaitsev_mbso. anything to discuss, folks?17:05
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learnmore_Not really.  I entered 2 blueprints this morning.  And now looking into uploading an application into the community catalog.  Just checked in to this meeting to see if any news.17:06
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felipemonteirokzaitsev_mb: I have some things in mind for the PTG, but haven't added anything to the doc you sent out last time. Was wondering what you had in mind first.17:06
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kzaitsev_mbnot really — we probably should work with felipemonteiro on the PTG agenda. mine would mostly be transferring the rights and giving any info/updates I can17:07
kzaitsev_mbI'd also like to know what happens with glare, although I'm 99% sure mike fedosin is not coming17:08
kzaitsev_mband the app catalog — they have a new PTL also17:08
kzaitsev_mbI'd say that we should deprecate glare v0.1 — there is little chance anyone is going to support it and work on moving to glare v117:09
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felipemonteirokzaitsev_mb: Yes, I read the discussion between Serg Melikyan and others in openstack-dev about it. I also think that the UI should better support glare.17:10
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felipemonteiroWhich I've already personally started doing :)17:10
kzaitsev_mbfelipemonteiro: no, I mean we should support the supported version of glare )17:10
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felipemonteiroYes, I recall Mikhail saying: "Serg, you forgot that Glare v1 != Glare v0.1. "17:11
kzaitsev_mbv0.1 was written when glare was glance v3, then it was glance-glare17:13
learnmore_Should a blueprint be added for moving to Glare V1?17:13
kzaitsev_mblearnmore_: yeah, good idea17:13
kzaitsev_mbso then they decided that we had it too easy, so they rewrote 0.1 to 1.017:14
kzaitsev_mband they're incompatible17:14
kzaitsev_mb=)17:14
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kzaitsev_mband no one really supports 0.1 anymore =) we had internal agreement with mike, that at least he would bugfix support it. but since he's no longer with mirantis — I'm pretty sure the deal is off )17:15
learnmore_It's too bad they are incompatible.  So for the time being, we will have to support both versions since deprecated does not mean removed.17:15
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kzaitsev_mblearnmore_: I'd say we should deprecate it, since glance has also deprecated it17:16
kzaitsev_mblearnmore_: that's another point to talk to glance guys on the status of their deprecation17:16
kzaitsev_mbcause if glance removes that code, say in Pike — there would no longer be any glare 0.1 =)17:17
kzaitsev_mbso our support of v0.1 is tied to that code being emoved17:17
kzaitsev_mbor kept17:17
felipemonteirokzaitsev_mb: Do you have any estimate on how long it make time to do the migration from v0.1 to v1 if needed?17:18
learnmore_Good to know.  Felipemonteiro:  I assume you will follow up with glance, yes?17:18
kzaitsev_mblearnmore_: I'd say it's one of the topics to discus with glance guys on the PTG )17:19
felipemonteirolearnmore_: I'll definitely reach out to them.17:19
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kzaitsev_mbfelipemonteiro: first — we need to reach out to mike and see if they finally released the client. If they did — adding v1.0 support should be pretty trivial17:20
felipemonteirokzaitsev_mb: Good. I was worried the API would have changed, requiring a lot more code changes.17:20
kzaitsev_mbfor 0.1 client is embedded in muranoclient (one of the decisions I'm not so proud of)17:20
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felipemonteiroOn another note, I've noticed tempest gates failing for stable releases -- but only a few cores have +2 rights on stable release. I could backport a patch to get those tempest gates passing, but it might take a while to get merged.17:23
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kzaitsev_mbfelipemonteiro: yeah thanks for reminding — I'm going to add you to release branch17:24
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felipemonteirokzaitsev_mb: Thanks. I think right now we have 3+ patches backed up b/c of that. I also think non-glare muranodashboard is failing outright, because it's saying Firefox plugin isn't installed.17:25
kzaitsev_mbfor backports the policy is lighter, but the number of cores is smaller17:25
felipemonteirokzaitsev_mb: What do you mean by lighter policy? You only need 1 +2 to merge?17:26
kzaitsev_mbhttp://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#review-guidelines17:26
felipemonteiroThanks.17:26
kzaitsev_mbEach backported commit proposed to Gerrit should be reviewed and +2ed by two project-specific stable maintenance team members before it is approved. Where a team member has backported a fix, a single other +2 is sufficient for approval.17:27
kzaitsev_mbmeaning you still need 2 +217:27
kzaitsev_mbbut if you have +2 and you're backporting a fix to stable branch — your +2 counts17:27
kzaitsev_mbunlike master )17:27
felipemonteiroAh, so you can +2 yourself.17:28
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felipemonteirokzaitsev_mb: Will Mirantis still maintain the various gates during Pike? Is this something I need to be concerned about?17:29
kzaitsev_mbfelipemonteiro: hm, good question — I'll ask around17:31
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felipemonteirokzaitsev_mb: Thanks, this is not an area I'm too familiar with. But we have a lot of deployment experts where I work that I could talk to as well.17:33
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kzaitsev_mbthe CI is running on Mirantis hardware & I haven't heard of any plans for it to stop. however the devstack it's running on need maintenance from time to time. the deployment scripts (and CI config) are all available through deployment repo17:34
kzaitsev_mbbut access to the underlying lab — I don't think even I have it )17:35
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kzaitsev_mbbut anyway — I'll ask around )17:35
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felipemonteirokzaitsev_mb: Interesting.17:37
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felipemonteirokzaitsev_mb: Do you believe core participation will remain the same in Pike? Otherwise my intention is to coach others to contribute enough to warrant core status -- which is no easy task.17:40
kzaitsev_mbfelipemonteiro: it's always a good idea to coach more cores )17:41
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felipemonteirokzaitsev_mb: Ha, agreed.17:41
kzaitsev_mband it's always a hard task )17:41
felipemonteiroBy the way, I added OSC plugin support to the patchset you reviewed earlier.17:42
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kzaitsev_mbwe have 3-5 active cores at the moment )17:42
kzaitsev_mbyou and I included17:42
kzaitsev_mbso I'd say — we're in a stable position17:42
kzaitsev_mbwhen I've first joined Murano — getting a patch in was harder than today ;)17:43
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felipemonteirokzaitsev_mb: That's very reassuring. I've gone to Heat dashboard (no offense to anyone there) and they have about 20 - 30 patches in need of 2nd +2.17:43
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kzaitsev_mbI guess that's all for today? =)17:49
learnmore_Yes from me.17:49
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felipemonteirokzaitsev_mb: Same.17:50
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kzaitsev_mblet's save 10 mins of our lives then ))17:50
learnmore_:)17:51
kzaitsev_mbthanks for coming, looking forward to seeing you guys on the PTG17:51
kzaitsev_mb#endmeeting17:51
felipemonteirokzaitsev_mb: Same!17:51
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catherineD#startmeeting refstack19:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 31 19:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
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luzCo/19:02
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catherineD#link meeting agenda and notes,  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-01-3119:02
pvanecko/19:02
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catherineDlet's wait for a few minutes ...19:04
sslypushenko_o/ Hi, all!19:04
catherineDlet's start ... we have very few topics today .. so it should be a short one19:04
catherineD#topic Move environment related packages out of requirements.txt19:05
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catherineD#link     See latest comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410443/  ( Added tox target which checks requirements.txt )19:06
catherineDso the PyMYSQL package is needed for unit test and envirment set up ...19:06
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sslypushenko_It is clear requiremet for env setup19:07
catherineDif we put this package in the dev-requirements.txt ( or additional-requirements.txt ) and not in test-requirements.txt ... unit tests fail19:07
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sslypushenko_I guess we agreed having this package installed manually or in puppet script19:08
sslypushenko_But unittests... It sounds pretty strange19:08
catherineDif we put it in test-requirements.txt ... then env setup people need to install test-requirements.txt and that may not make sense19:08
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sslypushenko_Because we are not using real DB for unittesting19:09
luzCcan it be added in both places... I mean on additional_requirements (for the environment) and test-requirements (for the tests)??19:09
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sslypushenko_That sounds good to me19:10
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pvaneckboth places is fine19:10
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catherineDluzC: it seems strange to me that it is in both places ( although technical it does not matter) but some people in the future may think that that is duplicate19:11
sslypushenko_Yeap, it will work definitely19:11
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sslypushenko_Basically we can put it only in test-requirements19:11
sslypushenko_because dev environment should also include testing tools19:12
catherineDsslypushenko_: if we put it in test ... that means that env setup will need to install test-requirements which have a lot of extra packages19:12
sslypushenko_not really19:13
catherineDsslypushenko_: not only dev env ... some one may want to set up refstack server on premise19:13
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sslypushenko_Setup of real env should include PyMySQL as separate step19:13
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sslypushenko_That is why we agreed to update setup manuall19:14
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catherineDmay be we do not add a dev-requirements at this time we just add installation of pymysql and gunicon on the readme?19:14
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sslypushenko_and refstack-puppet module19:14
catherineDand also add pymysql on the test-requirement?19:15
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sslypushenko_it is also works for me19:15
catherineDsslypushenko_: I think you and I say that samething in different ways ...19:15
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sslypushenko_while dev-requirements contains only gunicorn19:16
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catherineDok ...19:16
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sslypushenko_we can live without dev-requirements.txt19:16
catherineDsslypushenko_: do you think anyone would use gunicorn in real (low traffic) env?19:17
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sslypushenko_I'd say it is possible)19:17
sslypushenko_But I don't know more19:18
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catherineD#agreed add pymysql to test-requirement .. update readme to add the enviroment required packages19:19
catherineDsslypushenko_: thx19:19
catherineDmoving on ..19:19
catherineD#topic Storyboard19:19
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catherineDshould we move to Storyboard?19:19
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catherineDthis is really a roundtrip for us ... since RefStack started from Storyboard and moved to launchpad19:20
sslypushenko_I don't any opinion on it19:20
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sslypushenko_*don't have19:20
luzCcan I ask why we would want to go back?19:21
catherineDluzC: there seems to be a moving of that from the mail list ... I am not sure whether that is the direction from the Foundation or not ...19:22
catherineDI asked that question in DefCore and hope that Chris would know19:22
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catherineDI personal feeling is to wait for more project adoption before we move19:22
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luzCcatherineD +119:23
pvaneckMore info about storyboard i found on mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/109329.html19:23
catherineDpvaneck: thanks ...19:24
catherineDwe were fast to use it last time ... but I think this time we will wait ..19:25
pvanecksounds good19:25
sslypushenko_+119:25
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catherineD#agreed RefStack will wait for more adoption from other projects before moving to Storyboard19:26
catherineDgreat19:26
catherineD#topic PTG19:26
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catherineD#link     Please add RefStack PTG topics to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RefStackInteropWGAtlantaPTG19:27
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catherineDany discussion on PTG?19:28
catherineDhearing nothing.  I think we can move to the next topic19:29
catherineD#topic Pending reviews19:29
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catherineDI think we are doing really good ...19:30
catherineD#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390881/ ( Change doc references from DefCore to Interop Working Group )19:30
catherineDluzC: will will hold this one until Defcore rename the github right?19:30
luzCyes19:31
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luzClet me remove the workflow...19:31
catherineDluzC: ok thx19:31
catherineDsslypushenko_: it is greate that they merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410283/19:32
sslypushenko_wow!19:32
sslypushenko_I should thanks to Alex =)19:33
catherineDyup19:33
catherineDthat bring us to the last topic19:33
catherineD#topic Open discussion19:33
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catherineDanything else to discuss today ?19:34
luzCno for me19:35
pvanecknothing from me as well19:35
sslypushenko_+119:35
catherineDin that case, we can end early19:35
catherineDluzC: sslypushenko_: pvaneck: thank you for attending ...19:36
sslypushenko_I wish I could attend PTG19:36
catherineDbye everyone19:36
sslypushenko_But looks like maybe next  time19:36
catherineDsslypushenko_: yea ...I think it is easier with summit and design together right?19:36
sslypushenko_Not really19:36
catherineDit is easier to jusitify for travel (with speaker session)19:37
sslypushenko_Am I right that PTG now will happening only in US ?19:37
catherineDsslypushenko_: no, from the email yesterday ... it seems like meeting (PTG, summit ) will be outside of US19:38
sslypushenko_not good news =) but will see)19:38
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catherineDsslypushenko_: I  wish that you can join too ...19:40
sslypushenko_will see, will see...19:41
catherineDok that is it for today ... bye everyone ...19:41
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sslypushenko_bye19:41
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catherineD#endmeeting19:41
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