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IgorYozhikovo/12:59
jpena#startmeeting rpm_packaging13:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct  6 13:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jpena. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)"13:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging'13:00
jpena#topic roll call13:00
*** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)"13:00
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toabctlhi13:00
jpena#chair toabctl IgorYozhikov13:00
openstackCurrent chairs: IgorYozhikov jpena toabctl13:00
dirko/13:00
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jpena#chair dirk13:01
openstackCurrent chairs: IgorYozhikov dirk jpena toabctl13:01
dirkthanks13:01
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jpenanumber80 can't attend today, not sure about jruzicka13:02
number80I'll be around but do not block on me (conference wifi being the reason)13:03
* dirk too, but probably different conference :)13:03
jpenashall we start with the agenda, then?13:03
toabctlyes13:03
IgorYozhikovok13:03
jpena#topic Project Team Gathering13:03
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number80yep, who thinks he could manage to get there?13:04
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number80I'm not sure we can send out someone from RDO side (but I'll try asking to get few of us there)13:04
number80Mirantis, Suse?13:04
number80anyone else?13:05
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IgorYozhikovnumber80, what kind of meeting? could you please clarify :)13:05
dirkIgorYozhikov: see email13:05
number80IgorYozhikov: PTG are replacement of design summit/mid-cycles13:05
number80it'll be in Atlanta in Feb.13:05
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IgorYozhikovah, I saw that one13:05
toabctlnot sure from my side. need to ask13:06
IgorYozhikovdo not have clear answer now13:06
IgorYozhikov:(13:06
IgorYozhikovrequire to talk to mgmt 1st13:06
number80let me know, when you have definitive or semi-definitive answers13:06
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IgorYozhikovsure13:06
jruzickao/13:06
jpenaaccording to the e-mail, we can provide an answer until Oct 16, so we could ask during the week and gather the output during next week's meeting13:06
dirkI guess the major topic we need to decide on is whether we want to have a room allocated13:06
jpena#chair jruzicka13:06
openstackCurrent chairs: IgorYozhikov dirk jpena jruzicka toabctl13:06
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IgorYozhikovgot it13:07
dirkfor me personally I would prefer if it would be in europ in that week but that is not the case :)13:07
dirkI will be there, at least partially13:07
dirkwe could also decide to schedule a pure-virtual meeting I guess at the same time13:08
dirkbut that misses all the fun of being in atlanta13:08
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IgorYozhikovdirk - it is a good idea13:08
IgorYozhikovi mean every1 could join13:08
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IgorYozhikovanyway - will clarify this question with mgmt and provide answers13:10
number80ack13:10
jpenaso we'll discuss it again next week?13:11
IgorYozhikovwhy not - 1 week should be enough i think to ask and get back with preliminary results :)13:12
jpena#action Discuss it again next week, after we have gathered mgmt input13:13
jpenalet's move on to the next topic, then13:13
jpena#topic packages reviews13:13
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jruzickaastsmtl`'s epoch patch has been merged13:14
jpenaI need to look at the mistral patch, I'd love to get that in to unblock the tripleo stuff13:15
IgorYozhikovI'm trying to build mistral as promised, not very successfully13:15
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IgorYozhikovat 1st I want to reach green builds13:16
IgorYozhikovafter that will fix linter errors13:16
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astsmtl`\o/13:16
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jpenais there any review that needs special attention?13:17
IgorYozhikovtoabctl, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382196/13:17
IgorYozhikovhttps://build.opensuse.org/project/monitor/home:suse-cloud-ci:rpm-packaging-sles12-Master-439b366e7579c415857de0735eaa599d9cc265c0?blocked=0&building=0&dispatching=0&finished=0&scheduled=0&signing=0&succeeded=013:17
toabctlthere is the question about systemd service files and config handling13:17
toabctlIgorYozhikov, I'll have a look later13:18
dirkIgorYozhikov: looks like there are a few issues in teh suse ci, will take a look at that13:18
IgorYozhikovI see a lot of packages in unresolvable13:18
dirkfor mistral13:18
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IgorYozhikovtoabctl, yes, what questions?13:18
toabctlIgorYozhikov, see comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379784/13:19
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toabctlIgorYozhikov, would be nice if somebody from mirantis could comment there, too13:19
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toabctlbut we don't have to discuss it here now I guess13:20
IgorYozhikovo i c, will take a look, thanx13:20
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dirkIgorYozhikov: main issue with mistral is probably the missing zaqarclient13:20
IgorYozhikovdirk, thanks, so it means that we need to package it 1st in rpm-packaging13:21
dirknumber80: do you plan to fix the zaqarclient review any time soon? :)13:21
IgorYozhikovright?13:21
dirkit is open since ~ 3 months13:21
dirkor can anyone else help out13:22
number80dirk: I'll look after GA release13:22
number80(litterally after finishing the builds)13:22
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number80(FYI, GA releases have been merged in gerrit)13:23
jpenabtw, I've proposed a renderspec release including the latest patch: https://review.openstack.org/38254913:24
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IgorYozhikovtoabctl, I read comments related to multi configuration service setup in unit files13:27
toabctlIgorYozhikov, yes13:27
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IgorYozhikovlooks fine, i just want to test such kind of setup 1st13:27
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IgorYozhikovand all these conf dirs should be created from spec files13:28
toabctlIgorYozhikov, the only thing you need to take care about is that the files/dirs need to exists13:28
toabctlyes13:28
toabctlIgorYozhikov, I've already written a sample program where you can play with some options and see which parameters win if you use multiple config-file/config-dir parameters : https://gist.github.com/toabctl/58504087cd0c6adf63f1d6eb1573c27913:29
IgorYozhikovfine, 1 concern here - does matter order of conf files?13:30
toabctlIgorYozhikov, it does. that's the whole point for the change13:30
IgorYozhikovah, ok - that is exactly what I'm asking13:30
toabctllast mentioned file wins. for config-dir, last file in order wins13:30
IgorYozhikovgot it13:31
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IgorYozhikovmoving next? anything more interesting 4 review?13:32
jpenanothing for me, so let's move on13:33
jruzickayup, let's move on13:33
jpenathere's no open pymod2pkg review13:33
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jpenasame for renderspec, just a WIP review by toabctl13:33
jpenaanything to mention there? ^^13:33
toabctlno news there. still WIP13:34
jpenaok then13:34
jpena#topic open floor13:34
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jpenawe still have 25 minutes13:34
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jruzicka25 minutes saved ;)13:35
toabctlI guess we are fast today :-)13:35
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jpenaok, if nobody has anything to add, we can close the meeting13:35
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jpena#endmeeting13:35
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jpenathanks!13:35
toabctlthanks jpena !13:36
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slashme#startmeeting freezer13:59
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct  6 13:59:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slashme. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:59
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slashmeHello everyone :)13:59
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slashmeAs usual, meeting agenda and meeting notes are available here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings13:59
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slashmeLet's wait a few minutes for everyone.14:00
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szaherHello slashme14:00
m3m0hello slashme14:01
szaherHi m3m014:01
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slashmeOkay, I think our friends from China are all in holiday for the week :) Lucky them.14:07
slashmeThis will be a quick one then.14:07
slashme#topic survey14:08
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slashmeHere is the link we will use to prepare the survey we want to propose to the comunity14:08
slashmehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_user_survey14:08
slashmeI suggest that we wait for after the summit to send it.14:09
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slashmeThis will give us the time to refine our questions and include any feedback we get there.14:09
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szaherslashme: Can't we make this available during the summit ?14:12
szaheror do you think after the summit will be better14:12
slashmeWell I think it's better to do it right after the summit14:13
szaherOk ...14:13
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domhnallwo/14:13
slashmeSo we can use the feedback we get there to improve our survery and tell people there to do it when they get back.14:13
slashmeHi domhnallw14:13
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slashme#topic barcelona14:20
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szaherslashme: Ok14:20
slashmeSame as past weeks: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barcelona_summit_preparation14:21
slashmeWhat kind of topic would you like to be discussed during the Barcelona Summit ?14:21
slashmeWhat do you think should be discussed with the community14:21
slashmeHead to that etherpad to propose your ideas if you have some.14:22
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szaherslashme: I am adding some topics14:22
szaherlike remote backups ?14:22
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slashmeThank you for your contributions.14:30
slashmeWell, this is all I had.14:31
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slashmeAnyone wants to discuss about anything ?14:31
slashme#topic All the rest14:31
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slashmeOkay. So let's close the meeting.14:37
slashmeThank you for comming :)14:37
slashme#endmeeting14:37
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bswartz#startmeeting manila15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct  6 15:00:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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bswartzhello all15:00
cknightHi15:00
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vponomaryov1Hello15:00
gansohello15:00
toabctlhi15:00
ravihandranhi15:00
gouthamrhello o/15:00
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dustins\o15:01
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bswartzmarkstur xyang tbarron: courtesy ping15:01
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markstur___hi15:02
gouthamryou need to add a couple "_"s15:02
gouthamr:P15:02
bswartz>_<15:02
markstur___I did.  It would let me back in with 1 or 2 or 315:02
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bswartzmarkstur: maybe try 4 _s?15:02
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bswartzlol15:03
bswartz#topic announcements15:03
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bswartzNewton shipped today!15:03
xyang2hi15:03
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markstur___release party!15:03
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kaisershi15:03
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bswartzThe final newton bits ended up being the same as the RC1 bits because we didn't have any critical bugs15:03
tbarronhi15:04
vkmco/ hi15:04
bswartzWe did push a bugfix release of manila-ui earlier this week15:04
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bswartzThis means that the quiet period on the stable branches is over and master is TRULY open for Ocata development15:04
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dustinsDevstack isn't gonna know what hit it15:05
bswartzthere's no reason not to merge features if they're ready at this point15:05
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gouthamrdustins: usually its the other way round15:05
bswartz#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings15:06
bswartz#topic Ocata Design Summit15:06
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bswartz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-ocata-design-summit-topics15:06
bswartzokay so I'd like to make some decisions about the agenda for the design summit today15:06
bswartzthe etherpad doesn't have the topics divided into fishbowls or working sessions currently15:07
bswartzbut please vote (using +1 on etherpad) on the topics you'd like to cover right now15:08
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tbarrongouthamr: :)15:09
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gouthamrbswartz: to understand correctly, elimination of race conditions is not the same as DLM and our road to HA? :)15:09
bswartzgouthamr: correct15:10
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bswartzgouthamr: we can fix all of our race conditions without a DLM and not have HA support15:10
bswartzwe cannot have HA support without fixing our race conditions and without a DLM15:10
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gouthamrbswartz: okay.. yes.. but i'm interested in the DLM support because of an existing feature breaking when deployed according to the recommended way of deploying manila services15:11
gouthamrbswartz: s/an existing feature/share replication15:11
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bswartzgouthamr: I'm sure that topic will get some coverage15:12
gouthamrbswartz: i think this can be done in parallel, i'd revive the DLM patch when im done prepping for summit15:12
gouthamrbswartz: nice, thank you..15:12
bswartzgouthamr: share replication probably needs another pass after we agree on solution for locking and states15:13
gouthamryes, its possible that we might use fine grained state transitions even with replication15:13
bswartzI don't want to rewrite everything but we should consider that if necessary15:14
gouthamrwe have gigantic critical sections so we can avoid the state transitions, you convinced me that's untenable.. so i'm in agreement :P15:14
bswartzI notice that "share groups" is absent from this list15:14
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gouthamrso is ameade15:15
bswartzIf interest in that feature has waned then perhaps it's time to delete the much-maligned "consistency groups" feature15:15
cknightbswartz: I'll ping ameade about it15:15
bswartzokay15:16
bswartzI don't want to carry around consistency groups forever if we know we don't want to keep it as is15:16
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tbarronI'm surprised more people aren't voting for getting the generic driver to work better15:18
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bswartztbarron: it may be that we just do that and it doesn't need much discussion15:18
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bswartztbarron: I'm willing to lead that effort15:19
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gansobswartz: I am not aware of the fact that the container driver has been a disappointment. I am not fond of the idea of improving the generic driver, we wanted to deprecate it with the container driver15:20
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bswartzganso: well that is what the discussion would be about15:20
markstur___ganso, I don't see your -1 on that subject15:20
bswartznot everyone is up to date with the status of the generic driver15:20
bswartzsome of these things we can cover in weekly meetings between now and barcelona15:21
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tbarronbswartz: I think we need a status report at least, and then maybe common direcitoin15:21
tbarrondirection15:21
bswartzwe have today and 2 more weeks before the summit15:21
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tbarronyeah, not everything has to be at summit, and some things need to be async as well and involve people who can't attend summit15:22
bswartztbarron: good point15:22
bswartzwho will attend the summit and who won't?15:22
* bswartz will attend15:22
ganso'me will15:22
* tbarron will 15:22
gansooops15:22
cknightI'll be there15:22
* vponomaryov1 will15:22
* markstur___ will be there!15:22
tbarronvponomaryov1: +100015:22
bswartzyay markstur!15:22
gansomarkstur___: :D15:23
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tbarronmarkstur___: awesome15:23
markstur___vponomaryov1, Finally get to meet you15:23
bswartzWill it be markstur or markstur______?15:23
gouthamri'll be there15:23
vponomaryov1))15:23
markstur___I'll fill in the blank next week15:23
bswartzmarkstur: see if you can get them to put the extra underscores on your badge15:23
tbarronmarkstur___: hee hee15:23
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bswartzokay well based on the etherpad voting I'm seeing some clear preference for certain topics15:24
markstur___Seriously.  I got kicked out with all shorter attempts (nick in use race)15:24
kaisersoops, will be on the summit, too15:25
bswartzkaisers: cool15:26
bswartzI didn't see anyone who says they can't attend15:26
bswartzbut not everyone answered15:26
vponomaryov1whre is xyang?15:26
gansoxyang2 ?15:26
vponomaryov1ganso: sooo , slooow )15:26
gouthamr#shamelessplug https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/16280/manila-share-data-does-not-simply-move-and-protect-itself-oh-wait-it-does15:27
bswartzI know xyang will be there from the cinder meeting15:27
bswartzalthough we have more conflicts with cinder than we have in the past15:27
xyang2sorry.  I"m in a call15:27
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xyang2I"ll be at the summit15:27
bswartzso people will have to make choices about which sessions to attend15:27
gansoxyang2: cool :)15:28
bswartzokay I have enough information that I cna take a pass at scheduling sessions this afternoon15:28
tbarronvkmc and rraja will be there15:28
bswartzit's good to see that people are focused on incremental improvements rather than huge new things given the extremely short schedule15:28
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bswartzwow I don't know if I've seen rraja since the hong kong summit15:29
vponomaryov1bswartz: owners of such features are just hiding  from us )15:29
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bswartzvponomaryov1: that's fine but they're missing their chance to bring up topics in Barcelona15:30
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bswartzokay we better move on15:30
bswartznext up:15:30
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bswartz#topic Microversion-ing addition or removal of transitional ('micro') states15:30
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bswartz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369668/15:31
bswartzgouthamr: you're up15:31
gouthamrthanks bswartz okay, a little background -> we've had bad race conditions in manila since iirc share instances appeared15:31
gouthamrin mitaka, we cleaned up access rules a little bit, added a new driver interface update_access and removed the per instance access rule state15:32
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gouthamrand subsequently fixed a bunch of bugs with different approaches..15:32
bswartzyes and a mistake was made during mitaka15:32
gouthamrand one was left that we know of... https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/162624915:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1626249 in Manila "Concurrency issues with bulk access rule updates" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Goutham Pacha Ravi (gouthamr)15:32
gouthamroriginally reported by tpsilva15:33
bswartzwhen we introduced new access rule states, we should have hidden the ones users don't need to know about15:33
gouthamrso, the solution after much brainstorming with ganso tpsilva vponomaryov1 bswartz cknight + has been restoring the per rule access state15:33
bswartzin particular "updating_multiple" should have been mapped to simply "updating" at the view builder level15:33
vponomaryov1bswartz: that is the problem, how do we map states and microversions?15:34
gouthamrso, that patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369668/ does that15:34
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gouthamrvponomaryov1 had a question about the approach though and i'm open to ideas15:34
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bswartzvponomaryov1: this is the point from the review that I think requires discussion here15:34
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gouthamri'm knocking two legit states from the share instance's access_rules_status15:34
bswartzso the general rule is that any user-visible change should be microversioned15:34
gouthamrwith no microversion change (oh the horror)15:35
bswartzthere are exceptions to that rule though15:35
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gouthamr:) so wanted to bring that up for discussion here hoping we can reason out the approach15:35
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bswartzin cases where preserving backwards compatibility is impossible or undesirable (such as when fixing a bug), then microversioning the change is pointless15:36
gouthamrbswartz: i kind of agree, because users may not have expected that behavior per se...15:36
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gouthamrbut i'm wary of saying that for certain15:36
gouthamrthe scripts that we write 'usually' only care about two states: available or error15:37
bswartzone of the main points of microversioning is to introduce new behavior while preserving old behavior for clients that expect the old behavior15:37
gouthamrfor example, in tempest15:37
bswartzwhen fixing a bug, it's hard to argue that anyone "expected" the old buggy behavior15:37
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gansobswartz: there may be tools dependent on that state15:38
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gansobswartz: or scripts15:38
bswartzganso: yes that's where the tension comes from15:38
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markstur___there are sometimes bug vs feature arguments15:38
gansobswartz: microversioning allows the users to go back to the previous microversion until their scripts are fixed15:38
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bswartzganso: however consider when the nature of the bugfix makes it impossible to emulate the old (buggy) behavior for those clients who expect it15:38
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gouthamrganso: what kind of scripts do you expect that expect a second rule to transition state to "updating_multiple"?15:38
bswartzganso: cinder faces this conundrum with their attachment APIs15:39
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gansobswartz: oh I see your point... backwards compatbility :\15:39
gouthamrthese transitional (micro) states are so brief and unpredictable to be relied upon15:39
gouthamrexpected to be brief*15:39
tbarronyeah in this case it's a theoretical possibility but the actual liklihood is minimal i think15:39
gansogouthamr: true, it is highly unlikely15:40
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markstur___gouthamr, brief as in permanent?15:40
markstur___like bad tattoo15:40
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bswartzso my stance is that unless we really see value in supporting both the old behavior (for backward compatibility) and the new behavior, then microversioning the change achieves almost nothing15:40
gouthamrmarkstur___: yes.. the true states for that field are 'active', 'out_of_sync' or 'error'15:40
bswartzmarkstur___: you have experience in that area?15:41
gouthamrmarkstur___: haha15:41
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gouthamrsome transitional states make sense, some don't imho15:41
gouthamrso, we should have always mapped the states for consistent user experience15:42
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gouthamrwith that said, it's going to be difficult to maintain backwards compatibility15:42
bswartztransitional states have value to the user insofar as they signal "don't do anything else to this share right now"15:43
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gouthamrbswartz: i consider 'out_of_sync' as a transitional state then15:43
bswartzGUI clients should ideally suppress actions on shares in transitional states15:43
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bswartzgouthamr: that's a bit different because it's the replica state not the share state15:44
bswartzand transitions into and out of that state can happen with NO user interaction15:44
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gansobswartz: it is the instance, in fact15:44
gouthamrbswartz: nope, overloaded in "access_rules_status"15:44
bswartzoh you're talking about that access rule status15:45
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gansogouthamr: but bswartz stated a good example of what could be relying on the states... fortunately our vanilla manila-ui does not do anything special15:46
bswartzI'll say again the main value of states at the API level is to give the user a clue about what he can/can't do with that share at that time15:46
gouthamrmy proposal is that we microversion this, but don't care about breaking clients that expect these transitional states, 'updating', 'updating_multiple'15:46
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gouthamrand do things right from here on out when introducing any states15:46
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bswartzfrom a user's perspective, all they need to know is whether the access rules they've set on the share are active or not, so they can wait for them to become active15:47
gouthamri.e, microversion and/or map to existing states taht users should rely upon when we expect a state transition only for the sake of internal logic15:47
gouthamrbswartz: +115:47
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vponomaryov1gouthamr: I agree with bswartz here, if we cannot keep backwards compat then no need in microversion15:47
gouthamrvponomaryov1: anything that changes in behavior in the server should ideally bump the microversion15:48
gansogouthamr: +115:48
bswartzgouthamr: why do you propose adding a microversion?15:48
gouthamrvponomaryov1: that patch also adds 'applying' and 'denying'15:48
gansogouthamr: we could make that adjustment in the view only, it would not affect internal logic15:48
gouthamras per instance access rule state15:48
bswartzganso: +115:49
vponomaryov1gouthamr: addon of microversion means you should support ol dstatuses for old microversions, that is my point15:49
gansogouthamr: the internal logic is being fixed, it could be seen as a mistake to expose so many statuses to the API15:49
bswartzwe can have as many states as we want internally and the viewbuilder should map those to a small number of user visible states15:49
gansogouthamr: since for the user, the only important states would be "active" or "out_of_sync"15:49
gouthamryes... so we're in agreement. i could write up a spec if anyone wants for these changes15:49
vponomaryov1in agreement for what? ))15:50
bswartzgouthamr: I feel a spec is required here -- there's too many details to argue about15:50
gouthamr(i intend to modify the associated ORM models (add backrefs) and the DB APIs as well, in line with share instances and share snapshot instances)15:50
bswartzit would be better to argue about those in the spec and then just implement the spec, avoiding all the arguments in the code review15:50
gouthamrbswartz: okay.. if you aren;t tired of my writing :D15:51
gouthamrsure +115:51
gansoor we could not have the spec (as we currently don't) and discuss it at the summit, there is a topic for that proposed15:51
markstur_gouthamr, Your writing is excellent15:51
gansounless we agree we do not need that topic anymore15:51
bswartzyes specs are going to be more important for ocata15:51
bswartzI need to update my own spe15:52
bswartzmy spec about specs15:52
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bswartz#topic open discussion15:52
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gouthamrmarkstur_: :) thanks...15:52
bswartzokay anyone have something else?15:52
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ganso"Access rules fixes (patch proposed by goutham) +1+1+1+1+1+1"15:52
tbarroni think having this written down will be very helpful15:52
markstur_gouthamr, It's your artwork that is subpar  :)15:52
bswartza few things came up earlier during the meeting...15:52
gouthamrmarkstur_: i don't do the ascii diagrams! :P15:52
bswartzganso asked about the container driver15:52
bswartztbarron asked about the generic driver service image15:52
bswartzgouthamr: I use plantuml for diagrams15:53
bswartzganso: so quick update on the container driver15:53
gouthamrbswartz: yes.. and i've had it in my post it notes to plantuml our thin provisioning logic #someday15:53
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bswartzafter working on the container driver for about a year, I feel it's about as good as it will get given the existing limitations in docker and ganesha, which are significant15:54
vponomaryov1bswartz: don't forget to say that ganesha is not used yet at all because of such limitations ))15:55
bswartzour options with the container driver are to either wait for docker and ganesha to get better, or to rearchitect the driver significantly15:55
gansobswartz: so it will not be good enough to be a generic driver replacement?15:55
gansobswartz: would rearchitecting solve these issues? has this been researched?15:55
gouthamrganso: loopback, i'll add the spec link to the etherpad when done.. we can possibly integrate it into the micro-states discussion.. its all intertwined15:55
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gansogouthamr: +115:55
bswartzganso: as vponomaryov points out, the existing driver doesn't even support NFS because ganesha is so bad at basic things which we need15:56
bswartzI had high hopes for ganesha after hearing how it was being used for various production use cases15:56
tbarrondo we have written down somewhere what is needed of ganesha?  has anyone involved themselves in the upstream ganesha community?15:57
bswartzbut while working with aovchinnikov on the driver it became clear that ganesha is still missing some essential things15:57
bswartztbarron: I wrote in their mail list what we want from them15:57
tbarronwe aren't just consumers of other upstream projects, sometimes we need to participate15:57
bswartztbarron: it's also on the etherpad15:57
tbarroni have a more vital interest in this subject now so want to catch up again :)15:58
bswartztbarron: yes I suspect that the ganesha team won't address our use cases unless we join them and do the work ourselves15:58
bswartztbarron: but because we work in python and they work in C++ my personal preference is to put container driver on the back burner and pursue approaches which we can more directly help with15:59
tbarronso i want to discover how much the needs for container driver overlap with needs for, say, nfs gateway to native cephfs15:59
bswartztbarron: that's certainly worth looking into15:59
tbarronbswartz: k, i'll listen about that ...15:59
bswartzwe're out of time for today16:00
bswartzthanks all16:00
* xarses waves16:00
bswartztbarron I'll ping you about the other thing16:00
bswartz#endmeeting16:00
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tbarronbswartz: sure, running to meeting now though16:00
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ashtokolovo/16:01
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xarses#startmeeting fuel16:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct  6 16:01:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is xarses. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
xarses#chair xarses16:01
xarsesTodays Agenda:16:01
xarses#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda16:01
xarsesWho's here?16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
maximov_Hi16:01
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openstackCurrent chairs: xarses16:01
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xarseslets get started =)16:02
xarses#topic Fuel Newton RC1 (ashtokolov)16:02
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ashtokolovI'm going to tag all fuel-core projects tomorrow and that will be the RC1 for Fuel Newton16:02
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maximov_Sounds good16:02
xarseswoot16:02
ashtokolovThe release date is Oct2016:02
ashtokolovSo I've requested a swarm run against stable/newton16:03
xarsesWe can be up to two weeks behind if needed16:03
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ashtokolovOpenStack Newton release is today16:03
xarsesoh =)16:03
ashtokolovso Oct20 is right in 2 weeks16:03
xarsesthat is our two weeks16:03
ashtokolovyeap)16:03
xarsesI live under a rock sometimes16:04
xarsesmoving ?16:04
maximov_Btw mos packages will be rebuilt soon16:04
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maximov_To accumulate latest changes16:04
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ashtokolovdo you mean next week?16:05
ashtokolovmaximov_: ^16:05
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maximov_I think so16:05
ashtokolovgreat!16:05
ashtokolovPlease let me know16:05
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ashtokolovmoving?16:05
maximov_Yes16:06
xarses#topic Barcelona Deisgn Summit Schedule (ashtokolov) https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-ocata-summit-planning16:06
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ashtokolovWe got an extra fishball16:06
xarses#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-ocata-summit-planning16:06
ashtokolovI've allocated this slot for upgrades16:06
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ashtokolovRoman Sokolkov and Ilya Kharin will present their approaches16:07
maximov_Ok. This is a hot topic as usual16:07
ashtokolovand we are going to discuss next steps with custom graphs16:07
ashtokolovalso Fuel-CCP team asked for a workroom16:07
ashtokolovthe schedule should be stabilized next week16:08
ashtokolovand I'll update sessions titles16:08
ashtokolovxarses: are you going to join us at Barcelona?16:09
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xarsesashtokolov: I'm not this time =(16:09
ashtokolovIt's a pity!16:09
xarsesya, I know it didn't work out for me this time, maybe next16:09
xarsesanything else?16:10
ashtokolovI hope16:10
ashtokolovjust one update16:10
ashtokolovKolla and Intel guys are going to join our CCP tracks16:10
xarsescool16:10
ashtokolovso CCP session can be moved to align with Kolla's sessions16:11
ashtokolovI'll share an update asap16:11
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ashtokolovthat's all from my side16:12
ashtokolovany questions?16:12
xarsesnone here16:12
maximov_Nope16:12
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ashtokolovlooks like we can finish our dialog)16:13
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ashtokolovthank you guys!16:13
xarsesalright folks, have a good rest of the day.16:13
xarses#endmeeting16:13
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ashtokolovcheers16:13
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tmcpeak#startmeeting security17:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct  6 17:01:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tmcpeak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
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tmcpeako/17:01
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tmcpeak#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda17:01
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tmcpeak#topic Bandit Bugs17:03
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unrahulo/17:03
tmcpeaktkelsey: we've had a few bugs that I think we need to address in Bandit17:03
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tmcpeakwill you have some cycles?17:03
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tmcpeakI'll devote some too17:03
sicarieo/17:03
tkelseytmcpeak: yeah17:03
tmcpeakdave-mccowan: has offered to fix this yaml bug, but I'd like to do a bug squash and roll a new version17:03
tkelseywill take a look17:03
tmcpeakyou good to help?17:03
tmcpeaksweet17:03
tkelseyyup yup17:03
tkelsey:)17:03
tmcpeakgreat17:04
tmcpeakthat was easy17:04
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tmcpeak#action tkelsey, tmcpeak to squash Bandit bugs & roll new version17:04
tmcpeak#topic PTG17:04
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tmcpeakwho's is this?17:04
dave-mccowani added it.17:04
tmcpeakahh cool, thank you17:04
tmcpeakso this is what would have been our midcycle17:04
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dave-mccowanit's an item from the os-dev mail list.   the foundation is asking project to RSVP if they want a room at the PTG17:05
dave-mccowanhttp://www.openstack.org/ptg17:05
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capnodaythat is a _long_ way out17:05
tmcpeakyeah it is17:05
tmcpeakI might have quit security and be running a bar by then :P17:05
sicarieSo this is the "new" mid-cycle?17:05
capnodayI have literally no idea if we will have a travel budget at that point in time17:05
tmcpeaksicarie: yeah, think so17:05
capnodaytmcpeak I'll drink to that17:05
tmcpeakwell suffice it to say that we'll have at least some security people that can make it, so we need to reserve a space17:06
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tmcpeak"The event is not the occasion to sell goods or to propose jobs to the attendees -- hiring managers and product vendors will therefore also probably feel out of place." boooo17:06
tmcpeak;)17:06
michaelxinnice17:06
capnodayplan. lets ask for a room and if it turns out no-one can make it, say we're sorry?17:06
sicarieI should be able to make it to that one, but obviously pending approval, etc...17:06
tmcpeakcapnoday: yeah, think so17:06
dave-mccowanfor February, this would be instead of a mid-cycle, except it will actually be timed at the beginning of the Pike cycle.  Ocata will be a short cycle.17:06
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michaelxincapnoday: +117:07
tmcpeakdave-mccowan: do you know how we can request a space?17:07
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dave-mccowanMonday and Tuesday are for horizontal teams (QA, docs, performance), and Wednesday-Friday are for vertical projects (nova, cinder, ...)17:07
dave-mccowansecurity could qualify for either or both.17:07
capnodayboth17:08
tmcpeakhmm17:08
sicarie+1 to both17:08
capnodayif I'm flying 10 hours for it, I'm staying around all week17:08
tmcpeakyeah, really is both17:08
tmcpeakcapnoday: not 10 hours17:08
tmcpeakAtlanta, only like 5 hours17:08
sicariedocs, OSSN, and TA could get dedicated time17:08
dave-mccowantmcpeak there's a form to fill out.  i'll send you and rob the link/email offline.  it went out to PTLs.17:08
tmcpeakdave-mccowan: gotcha, thanks for bringing this to our attention17:08
capnodaytmcpeak 9hrs for me :(17:09
tmcpeakyikes17:09
capnodaythanks dave-mccowan17:09
tmcpeak+1 thanks!17:09
tmcpeak#topic Syntribos17:10
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tmcpeakccneill:17:10
tmcpeakunrahul:17:10
ccneillso we finished up our testing last week17:10
michaelxinI gave them a break for this week17:10
ccneillhaven't had a chance to sift through launchpad/email to see if any bugs have been resolved17:10
mdongccneill wrote a great retrospective17:10
mdong#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/syntribos-retrospective17:10
unrahulmdong: ccneill +1 indeed.17:10
tmcpeakyou know where this needs to go...17:11
sicarieblog post?17:11
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ccneillthanks mdong :D17:11
tmcpeakboom!17:11
tmcpeaksicarie: correct17:11
ccneillsicarie: yep, we're planning on it17:11
michaelxinccneill: +117:11
ccneillas michaelxin said, we were off for a couple days this week relaxing17:11
tmcpeakterrible, the bad guys, they don't relax17:11
michaelxinhha17:11
tmcpeak:P17:11
ccneillbut we will definitely get it in blog post form soon17:11
tmcpeakthis is an awesome retrospective though17:11
sicarie+117:11
michaelxinThanks.17:11
knangia+117:12
michaelxinGreat job! ccneill, mdong, unrahul, knangia, vinaypotluri17:12
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ccneillso yeah, check out the retrospective, let us know if you have any ideas for future development17:12
tmcpeakcool, soundss good17:13
knangiathank you michaelxin17:13
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ccneillwe're planning on using launchpad more in the future so that our plans are more visible to the community17:13
vinaypotlurithank you michaelxin17:13
ccneillthat's all I've got, unless someone else has more?17:13
tmcpeakawesome, thanks guys17:13
tmcpeak#topic OSSN17:13
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tmcpeakno lhinds today17:14
tmcpeakso punting...17:14
tmcpeak#topic Blog17:14
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tmcpeaklooks like nothing new17:14
tmcpeakalthough looking forward to lhinds post and one from Syntribos in the future17:15
tmcpeakalso encourage everybody to go out and write one, they're fun :)17:15
tmcpeak#topic Barcelona Sessions17:15
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tmcpeakif you have anything to present please add it here17:15
tmcpeakalso if you know you're going to Barcelona please add your name17:15
tmcpeak#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barcelona-security-sessions17:16
sicariegmurphy is working on his - it's going to be awesome17:16
tmcpeakworking on what?17:16
DavieyIs the OSSP having any input into sec' brown bag sessions?17:16
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sicariewhoops, got my nomenclature mixed up - presentation vs session17:16
sicarie+1 Daviey17:16
capnodaywhys that Daviey?17:16
tmcpeaklol17:16
tmcpeakDaviey: good question17:17
tmcpeakI don't know anything about brown bag sessions17:17
Davieycapnoday: There were some security sessions at the last one... and the group had some feedback on it17:17
tmcpeakdoes anybody17:17
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capnodayseems like an action for Rob17:17
capnodayim aware there may be another one of those security sessions that we may have more feedback on17:17
tmcpeakwhat is the deal with the brown bag sessions?17:17
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tmcpeakI mean, where are they even held? are they in a bar?17:18
tmcpeaksome back alley somewhere?17:18
tmcpeakseems like something the foundation would have to be involved in, doesn't it17:18
capnodaythey film them, on youtube17:18
sicarieThey're in smaller rooms17:18
Davieyjust a room.. at lunctimes17:18
tmcpeakfungi: you around?17:18
Davieysponsored by some corp17:18
sicarieThey have one or two rooms, and then do semi-"lightning talks" through the day17:18
fungiyep, here17:18
Daviey"lunch and learn"17:18
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tmcpeakdo you know anything about brown bag sessions and how those topics are selected?17:19
tmcpeakI'm just randomly picking on you because you work for the foundation17:19
tmcpeakI guess if we don't get answers this could be a ML topic17:19
tmcpeakbut I don't want to blast it to everybody and I don't know who to address it to :)17:19
fungii think vbrownbag is an independent organization and the foundation sort of just gives them some space to "do their thing"17:19
Davieyfungi: There were some quality concerns from Austin17:20
fungii know there have been issues in the past with conference organizers having limited input into what vbrownbag does and how17:20
Davieyfungi: Such that the OSSP felt they had to respond to them17:20
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tmcpeak#link http://vbrownbag.com/2016/09/vbrownbag-techtalks-at-openstack-barcelona/17:20
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fungiperfectly valid, and i can pass that along to the organizers to help them decide whether to continue their relationship with vbrownbag17:21
tmcpeakfungi: awesome, thank you17:21
fungiwhat/where was the ossp response?17:21
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capnodayfungi on the blog, i'll find the link17:22
capnoday#link http://openstack-security.github.io/vulnerabilities/2016/05/05/clearing-the-air.html17:22
fungithanks capnoday!17:22
fungii will make absolutely sure they see it17:23
tmcpeakfungi: thank you!17:23
capnodayyou should probably watch the presentation first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twOC6OqXBAU&list=PL2rC-8e38bUVvUc0oZ0RDXnzbxz5wFcJ5&index=5717:23
fungigiving them a heads up on it now so that it's fresh in their minds17:23
Davieyfungi: One of the talks talked about known vulnerabilities not being addressed... simply select a CVE and metasploit it with a few clicks17:23
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capnodayDaviey thats how you do it, right?17:23
fungiheh17:24
Daviey:)17:24
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fungiscript kiddies with jobs17:24
tmcpeakindeed17:24
Davieyfungi: That is us. x17:24
capnodayto be fair to that talk, it did motivate me to re-write the security.openstack.org17:24
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* fungi was referring to people who think that just because a nids says something is vulnerable they believe it17:25
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tmcpeakfungi: yeah, that about sums up the talk17:25
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fungier, s/nids/scanner/17:25
capnodayyeh17:25
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capnodaythis talk wasnt even talking about vulns in current openstack, some of them were ancient, but you can form your own opinions17:26
capnodaytmcpeak moving on?17:26
sicarieor in 3rd party apps17:26
tmcpeakheh, allright, not fully opening that can of worms again17:26
tmcpeak#topic Sec Guide17:26
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tmcpeaksicarie:17:26
sicarieSo we have published release notes for recent changes17:27
sicarie#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382600/17:27
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sicarieI tagged a few of you as FYI17:27
sicarieThere was discussion with docs resources about a bit of a roadmap for this next release, so working on TA materials and doing the neutron/nova chapter reviews17:28
tmcpeakwhat kind of roadmap?17:29
sicarieI'm not going to have much time to work on it this month, but I will be picking it up in Nov17:29
tmcpeakyayy, sicarie has returned to us17:29
sicarieTA materials and neutron/nova reviews17:29
sicarieI've been opening bugs on some of the lighter chpaters, and they have been getting fixed, so that's a plus as well17:29
sicarieand that's about it for the sec-guide for now17:29
tmcpeakawesome, thanks sicarie17:30
tmcpeak#topic AOB17:30
capnoday  sicarie TA stuff is WIP. we had a meeting with Kolla today that reminded me quite how much work I need to do on it :(17:30
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tmcpeakoh right17:30
tmcpeakcapnoday: want to give an update on the work with Kolla?17:30
capnodayyeah sure17:30
sicariecapnoday: yep - per our convo yesterday I put it in as a note, but made no promises :)17:30
capnodaytmcpeak and I met with the Kolla team a couple of hours back in a google hangout.17:30
capnodayWe went over the TA work, explained a bit about the latest evolution of the TA process, talked about the requirements for artifacts17:31
capnodayKolla team are commited to completing this and were very understanding of our work-in-progress process and documentation17:32
Davieycapnoday: dammit, i'd have joined that17:32
Daviey(i'm kolla core now)17:32
capnodayno way!17:32
tmcpeakDaviey: sick! get with inc and work on it17:32
capnodaywe are going to have a hangout fairly soon17:32
capnoday2 weeks or so17:33
Davieycapnoday: ok, keep me updated pls17:33
capnodaythen have a face to face in spain to wrap it up17:33
capnodaydaviey & tmcpeak you will have to lead the face to face, I'm unlikely to be there, particuarly if its late in the week17:33
tmcpeakcapnoday: boo17:33
Davieycheers bro.17:33
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tmcpeakcool17:34
tmcpeakanything else?17:34
tmcpeakotherwise I'll wrap us early17:34
capnodaysgtm17:34
tmcpeak#endmeeting17:34
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Oct  6 17:34:36 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:34
tmcpeakthanks everybody!17:34
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-10-06-17.01.html17:34
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-10-06-17.01.txt17:34
tmcpeakhave a good week17:34
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-10-06-17.01.log.html17:34
capnodaythanks guys17:34
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fungitmcpeak: have a mirror of openstack-security.github.io that doesn't have privacy-invading third party google integration?17:35
fungiprivacy badger is pretty unhappy with it17:35
fungibut i'd be curious to read articles on it if i could do so without telling google what i read and when17:36
tmcpeakfungi: ahh interesting17:36
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tmcpeaklet me add that as a topic for our next meeting17:36
tmcpeakhyakuhei: owns all that17:36
* fungi is surprised to be the only one wearing a tinfoil hat to a security team meeting17:36
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tmcpeakfungi: I've given up on privacy :P17:37
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fungifair enough. hard to work in security and be an optimist at the same time ;)17:37
tmcpeakfungi: exactly17:37
tmcpeakit's a good point though, I've added it for our next meeting17:38
fungithanks!17:38
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RockygYup, fungi.  Google owns all my info.  =P17:50
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anteayafungi: I'm glad you still advocate for privacy, it is work to keep it and I value it19:02
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Rockyg++ I'm with anteaya.  It's so needed.  I try, to, but it's with the assumption that we are at our low point wrt it19:04
auggyo/19:04
anteayaoh I assume many of my things are accessible to others, but I still do what I can to keep my private things private19:04
Rockygyup19:05
anteayaRockyg: I'm not holding onto any illusions there19:05
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RockygHey auggy.  no meetbot ping and few folks here.19:05
auggythanks Rockyg, i was just double checking i was in the right place19:06
auggySpamapS said in openstack-dev he wouldn't be here today so he asked dtroyer to run the meeting19:06
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Rockygah.  running late.19:06
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dtroyer_zzanyone still here?19:07
auggyoh hey!19:07
auggyi just pinged you in #openstack-dev19:07
Rockygcool!  thanks19:07
dtroyer_zzok, let's try this, even a little late19:07
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dtroyer_zz#startmeeting arch_wg19:08
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct  6 19:08:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dtroyer_zz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:08
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:08
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'arch_wg'19:08
auggyo/19:08
dtroyer_zz#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Arch-WG#Agenda19:08
Rockygo/19:08
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jroll\o19:08
dtroyer_zz#topic previous meeting action items19:08
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dtroyer_zz#link https://review.openstack.org/37976819:09
Rockygspamaps sent the APAC email19:09
dtroyer_zzSpamapS proposed that for the alternate time19:10
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Rockygnikhil, are you around?19:10
dtroyer_zzno opposition so far, but also nobody from APAC time zones have commented19:10
dtroyer_zz((not sure if tonyb intends to attend))19:11
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dtroyer_zzany comments here?19:11
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Rockygnope19:11
dtroyer_zz#topic repo creation19:12
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dtroyer_zzI haven't seen nikhil yet...19:12
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dtroyer_zz#topic Proposal Process Review19:13
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dtroyer_zzthis was on the agenda, nothing specific listed under it19:13
jrollfeels like this was last meeting's agenda19:14
dtroyer_zzwas it?19:14
cdentI forgot to say I'm here19:14
cdenthi19:14
dtroyer_zzugh,19:14
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* dtroyer_zz assumed the wiki accumulated it...19:15
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dtroyer_zzok, how about this:19:15
dtroyer_zz#topic Summit Cross-Project Space Request19:15
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jrollhasn't been significantly updated since sept 29, dunno if it was before or after, just looks familiar19:15
Rockygyeah.  This is last week's.  But reviewing AIs19:15
dtroyer_zzthe tentative schedule was put together, pending further review, Arch WG has a session on Wednesday at 12:1519:16
jrollnice19:16
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dtroyer_zz#topic Open Discussion19:17
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dtroyer_zzgiven I don't ave a better agenda, what's on your minds?19:17
RockygShould we put together an agenda on the Summit xproject etherpad?19:18
dtroyer_zzfor the session?  that sounds good19:18
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RockygYup19:18
dtroyer_zzwait, on the schedule one?  maybe we should build one for that session specifically19:18
Rockygyup19:20
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ttxdtroyer_zz: o/19:20
dtroyer_zzcan you get that started Rockyg?19:20
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ttxbit late, any urgent matter?19:21
cdenta new etherpad seems right thing19:21
Rockygsure....gimme a sec.19:21
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dtroyer_zzttx: nothing urgent, do you have anything to mention about the etherpadding action you and SpamapS had?19:21
ttxdtroyer_zz: not started, planning to try to d osomething about it tomorrow19:22
dtroyer_zzok, thanks19:22
ttxsomehow I had noted that this week was the APAC timing19:22
Rockyg#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-ArchWG-xproject_meeting19:22
dtroyer_zzthanks Rockyg19:22
dtroyer_zzttx: I do that more than I care to admit19:23
cdentdid the apac time get set?19:23
dtroyer_zzsomething (outlook maybe) numbers the weeks differently so I can never trust if it is an odd or even week19:23
ttxdtroyer_zz: based mine on the "start dates" on the patch, but the patch is not approved yet19:24
dtroyer_zzcdent: it isn't approved yet, but https://review.openstack.org/379768 is the proposal19:24
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cdentthanks dtroyer_zz19:24
ttxI guess I bet that it would be approved by now :p19:24
dtroyer_zzif only we knew someone...19:25
jrollI think we were waiting for anyone from APAC to chime in :P19:25
dtroyer_zzyes19:25
Rockygyup19:25
ttxah, so it's ready for approval now ?19:25
RockygI don't think we have a good meeting time for Israel, though.19:26
ttxah, we need SpamapS to un-W-1 it19:26
jrollttx: it's unclear if tony's vote was for "yes wfm" or "this change looks ok"19:26
jrollhe's the only apac on it19:26
ttxRockyg: it's not exactly what I'd call EU-friendly either19:26
RockygHopefully that's a so far...19:26
ttxIt's just not EU-unfriendly19:26
dtroyer_zzI read tonyb as approving the form, not necessarily the meeting time19:26
jrollditto19:27
Rockygttx, yeah.  Be good to move this one earlier.19:27
dtroyer_zzbut I don't know if he intends to come or not, so salt grains and all that19:27
ttxRockyg: It's hard anyway. Earlier is in dinner time for me19:27
markvoelkerset | grep OS_19:27
ttxmarkvoelker: wrong window19:27
dtroyer_zzOS_USERNAME=admin19:27
dtroyer_zz:)19:27
markvoelkerhah, sorry19:27
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dtroyer_zzanything else anyone?19:28
Rockyg<snicker>19:28
dtroyer_zzttx: I mentioned the tentative cross-project session schedule, when do you expect to call it final?19:28
ttxI publish it tomorrow, unless someone complains19:28
ttxwe can always alter it though19:29
ttxso.. near-final19:29
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ttxnothing else from me19:30
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dtroyer_zzme either19:30
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dtroyer_zzshort housekeeping week, when we get the repo I'll propose the draft etherpad19:30
auggyhey everyone, i heard about this wg and wanted to come check it out19:30
auggyso i guess i'm just introducing myself :) hi!19:31
ttxauggy: hi!19:31
dtroyer_zzauggy: thanks for coming, this wasn't a very impressive meeting to show off our grand plans19:31
auggyhahahaha no it's fine19:31
auggyi run the nova bugs team and i'm lucky if i have one other person at my meetings :( haha19:31
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RockygYou are doing a yeoman's work.  At least I appreciate it.19:32
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dtroyer_zzok, let's call it a day/night19:32
* dtroyer_zz likes the idea of food before pre-board19:32
auggydtroyer_zz: burgerville!!19:32
auggythey even have insulated cups for your "milkshakes"19:33
RockygYup.  Put ideas for the xproject agenda on the etherpad.... and linbks and stuff19:33
auggy(ahem, beer)19:33
cdentauggy: aw19:33
cdentnow I want burgerville19:33
dtroyer_zzthere's a Potbelly over thereI've been smelling since I sat down19:33
ttxb.u.r.g.e.R19:33
cdentand it is a _long_ way away19:33
dtroyer_zzthanks everyone!19:33
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auggythanks dtroyer_zz !19:33
dtroyer_zz#endmeeting19:33
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Oct  6 19:33:55 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)19:33
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/arch_wg/2016/arch_wg.2016-10-06-19.08.html19:33
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ttxthanks, dtroyer_zz19:34
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/arch_wg/2016/arch_wg.2016-10-06-19.08.log.html19:34
RockygThanks!19:34
jrollthanks :)19:34
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