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| moshele | #startmeeting sriov | 13:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 14 13:01:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is moshele. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sriov)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sriov' | 13:01 |
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| moshele | hi everyone | 13:01 |
| edand | hi | 13:01 |
| lennyb | hello | 13:01 |
| saneax | Hi All | 13:02 |
| lbeliveau | hi | 13:02 |
| moshele | #topic Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI | 13:02 |
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| moshele | so I worked with lennyb on the SR-IOV CI with container it seem that ovs 2.4 crash with fedora 21 | 13:03 |
| moshele | we now checking newer version | 13:03 |
| moshele | also I send a mail to Intel CI no response yet :( | 13:03 |
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| moshele | anyone have something to add here | 13:04 |
| moshele | #topic bug fixes | 13:05 |
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| moshele | lbeliveau: can you update the status on the migration patches | 13:05 |
| lbeliveau | with the testing I have done yesterday it is pretty stable, will do more tests today | 13:05 |
| moshele | so is this still need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326174/9/nova/pci/manager.py ? | 13:06 |
| lbeliveau | created separete patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328983 based on Matts comment | 13:06 |
| lbeliveau | no, I think I forgot to push my latest changes ... | 13:06 |
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| moshele | lbeliveau: so we need to arrange the migration patches, also I want to test it on my env | 13:07 |
| lbeliveau | yeap | 13:07 |
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| moshele | lbeliveau: let talk after the meeting about it if you are free | 13:07 |
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| lbeliveau | sure, I'm free | 13:08 |
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| lbeliveau | moshele: new patch set I just pushed doesn't modify pci manager https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326174/10 | 13:09 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: just to make sure you didn't see any race conditions with you latest testing right ? | 13:09 |
| lbeliveau | yes | 13:09 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: I will review and test them :) | 13:09 |
| lbeliveau | thanks | 13:09 |
| moshele | any other pci bugs ? | 13:10 |
| lbeliveau | I don't think so for the moment | 13:10 |
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| moshele | lbeliveau: do you plan to fix this https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L-221-L224 ? | 13:11 |
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| lbeliveau | yes, on my todo :) | 13:11 |
| lbeliveau | I'll try to start today | 13:12 |
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| moshele | lbeliveau: I am not sure it will be easy but ... | 13:12 |
| lbeliveau | yes, I'll have a closer look, anyway it is not urgent/high priority | 13:13 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: we can do it for next cycle | 13:13 |
| lbeliveau | yes, I'm more worried about migration atm | 13:13 |
| lbeliveau | this should be the focus | 13:13 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: me to | 13:13 |
| moshele | #topic Specs for review | 13:14 |
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| moshele | so last meeting we had the triplo spec for support SR-IOV | 13:14 |
| moshele | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313872 | 13:14 |
| saneax | yes | 13:15 |
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| moshele | I put some comments there I didn't see a new version | 13:15 |
| saneax | on the grub changes we are still hung up | 13:15 |
| skramaja | we are working on the grub changes via ipa - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1592329 | 13:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1592329 in Ironic "[RFE] provide a mechanism to configure kernel boot parameters" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Saravanan KR (skramaja) | 13:16 |
| saneax | also, some of the things in spec are common across other requirements, we need to segregate them | 13:16 |
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| saneax | a uploaded revision should come up by tomorrow | 13:17 |
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| moshele | is there going to be spec for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1592329 or it just rfe | 13:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1592329 in Ironic "[RFE] provide a mechanism to configure kernel boot parameters" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Saravanan KR (skramaja) | 13:17 |
| skramaja | yes.. we are working on the spec. | 13:18 |
| moshele | ok I see | 13:18 |
| skramaja | should be available for review in 2-3 days.. | 13:18 |
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| moshele | ok cool, anything else on the tripleO SR-IOV | 13:19 |
| moshele | ? | 13:19 |
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| skramaja | nothing for now.. | 13:19 |
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| moshele | I upload the User-controlled SR-IOV ports allocation https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182242/ target for O | 13:20 |
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| moshele | lbeliveau: I need to look at you comments | 13:20 |
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| lbeliveau | moshele, let me know we can discuss | 13:20 |
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| moshele | comments are welcome | 13:21 |
| moshele | any other SR-IOV related spec ? | 13:21 |
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| moshele | ok so I think we are done for today | 13:22 |
| skramaja | hi | 13:23 |
| moshele | #endmeeting | 13:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 14 13:23:13 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-06-14-13.01.html | 13:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-06-14-13.01.txt | 13:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-06-14-13.01.log.html | 13:23 |
| lbeliveau | bye guys | 13:23 |
| saneax | Bye folks | 13:23 |
| moshele | bye | 13:23 |
| skramaja | bye | 13:23 |
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| shardy | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 14 14:00:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is shardy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
| shardy | #topic rollcall | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| EmilienM | hello ! | 14:00 |
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| coolsvap | o/ | 14:00 |
| marios | o/ | 14:00 |
| sshnaidm | o/ | 14:00 |
| rhallisey | hi | 14:00 |
| ccamacho | Hello guys! | 14:00 |
| shardy | Hi all! | 14:00 |
| [1]cdearborn | o/ | 14:00 |
| mandre | hi | 14:00 |
| saneax | Hi folks | 14:00 |
| skramaja | hi | 14:00 |
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| beagles | o/ | 14:00 |
| qasims | o/ | 14:01 |
| karthiks | Hello | 14:01 |
| shadower | hey | 14:01 |
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| akrivoka | \o | 14:01 |
| trown | o/ | 14:01 |
| adarazs | \o | 14:01 |
| derekh | o/ | 14:01 |
| d0ugal | \o/ | 14:02 |
| shardy | #topic agenda | 14:02 |
| shardy | * one off agenda items | 14:02 |
| shardy | * bugs | 14:02 |
| shardy | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:02 |
| shardy | * CI | 14:02 |
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| shardy | * Specs | 14:02 |
| shardy | * open discussion | 14:02 |
| shardy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO | 14:02 |
| shardy | Does anyone have any one-off items to add this week? | 14:02 |
| jtomasek | o/ | 14:03 |
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| marios | shardy: did you want to bring up composable upgrades a bit if we have time | 14:03 |
| marios | i guess open discussion | 14:03 |
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| shardy | marios: yup, good idea - let's leave that till open discussion, then it can continue on the ML | 14:04 |
| marios | s/you/i/we yeah sure | 14:04 |
| shardy | I've been meaning to start a thread about it, but working on some examples first | 14:04 |
| marios | ok thanks | 14:04 |
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| shardy | Ok, if there's nothing else, let's get through the recurring items | 14:04 |
| shardy | #topic bugs | 14:05 |
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| weshay | o/ | 14:05 |
| shardy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 14:05 |
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| jrist | o/ | 14:06 |
| shardy | Does anyone have any bugs to mention this week in particular? | 14:06 |
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| beagles | yes | 14:06 |
| shardy | CI looks a bit happier today, but the HA job still looks fairly broken | 14:07 |
| beagles | there are a few mtu related bugs that, while we are dealing with on master | 14:07 |
| beagles | are going to be a pain in mitaka | 14:07 |
| beagles | e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1590101 | 14:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1590101 in tripleo "global_physnet_mtu is set to 1400 instead of ethernet standard 1500" [High,Triaged] | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | shardy: HA job looks stable to me | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | shardy: do you have logs handy or a LP? | 14:08 |
| * derekh hit that mtu bug while deploying rh2 | 14:08 | |
| sshnaidm | not critical, but worth to see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1592284 I think there is a misconfiguration again. | 14:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1592284 in tripleo "Sahara tests fail" [Undecided,New] | 14:08 |
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| beagles | I'm uncertain what the best way of dealing with this as a fix to mitaka - i.e. is it acceptable to alter the semantics of that configuration in a patch | 14:09 |
| shardy | EmilienM: ah, sorry my results were stale :) | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | yeah, our CI is currently quite stable | 14:09 |
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| bnemec | beagles: Given that the current semantics are wrong, I think it would be. | 14:10 |
| beagles | fwiw, for mitaka we might be better without mtu configuration altogether, but I haven't tested in yet | 14:10 |
| beagles | s/in/it/ | 14:10 |
| beagles | bnemec: yeah, that's my thinking | 14:11 |
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| beagles | I'll submit patches asap and we can discuss more :) | 14:11 |
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| shardy | beagles: +1, given the current behavior a backport seems justified | 14:11 |
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| derekh | beagles: I'm setting it to 1500, but leaving unset by default I think would work too | 14:12 |
| shardy | Any other bugs to mention before we move on? | 14:12 |
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| derekh | not sure how common this is | 14:12 |
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| derekh | but another bug I hit deploying rh2 is https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1587656 | 14:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1587656 in tripleo "undercloud install fails if devices exist with no dhcp" [High,Triaged] | 14:13 |
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| derekh | the undercloud node has 6 nics, all six are wired up but don't have dhcp | 14:13 |
| derekh | so undercloud install tries to get dhcp for all interfaces and fails | 14:13 |
| bnemec | Really? I deploy underclouds all the time with nics that can't DHCP. | 14:13 |
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| derekh | bnemec: yup, well that at least the conclusing I came to when deploying rh2 | 14:14 |
| derekh | bnemec: are your nics connected? | 14:14 |
| derekh | bnemec: to a network | 14:15 |
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| slagle | dhcp_all_interfaces.yaml should only get written out if the actual os-net-config comamnd fails | 14:15 |
| slagle | it's a fallback | 14:15 |
| slagle | so probably need to trace that back to why it failed in the first place | 14:15 |
| bnemec | Oh, yeah. ERROR: configuration of safe defaults failed. | 14:15 |
| derekh | slagle: ahh, so my os-net-config failed for some reason? will see if I can find out why | 14:16 |
| bnemec | Incidentally, this is the second time I've seen the safe defaults fail when a config was invalid. We should look into that too. | 14:16 |
| slagle | yea see if you can find the actual root error earlier up | 14:16 |
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| slagle | bnemec: yea, the safe defaults i've never seen work tbh | 14:16 |
| derekh | slagle: will do | 14:16 |
| slagle | bnemec: i dont think it makes sense for the undercloud either | 14:17 |
| slagle | for the overcloud, maybe it does | 14:17 |
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| shardy | Ok, sounds good, lets move on to the next agenda item and follow up in the bug/#tripleo | 14:17 |
| shardy | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:17 |
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| shardy | So, it's only one month until n-2: | 14:18 |
| shardy | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 14:18 |
| shardy | #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/newton-2 | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | I hope we can land all composable services by then | 14:18 |
| shardy | we need to push hard on landing all the things that are only started on in progress | 14:18 |
| shardy | if anyone thinks they will miss the n-2 deadline, please move it to n3 | 14:19 |
| shardy | also, any "Unknown" delivery status, please change (or I'll bump them to n-3) | 14:19 |
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| shardy | Does anyone have any questions/comments re the release schedule, or other release related things to mention? | 14:20 |
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| coolsvap | from the last meeting we needed volunteers with who can help with project releases, any update on that? | 14:21 |
| shardy | coolsvap: EmilienM has offered to be the release liason, and anyone can propose patches to openstack/releases too for interim releases that address specific issues | 14:22 |
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| shardy | coolsvap: IIRC you were interested in keeping track of the stable branch releases? | 14:22 |
| coolsvap | shardy, yeah i can help | 14:23 |
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| shardy | coolsvap: ack, sounds good, well basically it just requires figuring out when a release is required, then pushing the patch to openstack/releases | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | coolsvap: we can do next release together | 14:24 |
| shardy | then ping me and/or EmilienM and we can review it together | 14:24 |
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| shardy | sounds good | 14:24 |
| coolsvap | shardy, yup EmilienM thx sure | 14:24 |
| shardy | I think we agreed to keep stable branch releases as "on demand" and master branch aligned with the milestones (possibly with additional interim releases where needed) | 14:25 |
| shardy | the main thing I think is some what more regular releases from the stable branches than we have been doing recently | 14:25 |
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| shardy | Anything else re releases? | 14:26 |
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| shardy | #topic CI | 14:26 |
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| shardy | derekh: care to give us an update? | 14:26 |
| derekh | we had a testenv problem from friday evening that we resolvved on monday morning, so CI was out of the weekend | 14:27 |
| derekh | I havn't been keeping track of regression breaking trunk deploys, I think EmilienM fixed one yesterday | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | yeah we landed one patch to fix HA job | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | all CI jobs from master & stable/mitaka are gree | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | green* | 14:29 |
| slagle | in other ci news, i'm still trying to push the tripleo nodepool multinode work forward | 14:29 |
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| derekh | on the rh2 front, I'll be redeploying it later(with a few other team members) this evening and should be pushing a patch to add it to infra tomorrow | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | slagle: do you have blockers / or/and need review? | 14:29 |
| derekh | once that done, I'll be adding an experimenta OVB based job | 14:29 |
| slagle | reworking things a bit presently to use the same networking setup as devstack networking (ovs vxlan tunnels), as i think that will be more well received with infra | 14:29 |
| slagle | and we can collaborate on that | 14:30 |
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| slagle | there was also some feedback that if we could start with just 2 nodes instead of 3, it'd be better to help prove things | 14:30 |
| slagle | that would require us to deploy an aio overcloud | 14:30 |
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| slagle | which may be possible when composable nova-compute lands | 14:30 |
| shardy | the upgrades job on stable/liberty has been broken since march - is anyone interested in looking into that? | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | slagle: we're on it and it should happen soon, we started to land nova composable things today | 14:31 |
| shardy | it would be good to get that resolved, as it's stalled a lot of stable/liberty reviews I think | 14:31 |
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| EmilienM | slagle: I'll work on compute role as a priority tomorrow | 14:32 |
| slagle | EmilienM: thx | 14:32 |
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| EmilienM | shardy: yes, I can look at it | 14:32 |
| reduxio | Hello. Can anyone point me to where i need to go to register as a third party driver developer? | 14:32 |
| shardy | EmilienM: if you're busy with composable services don't spend too much time on it, perhaps some other folks can help out | 14:32 |
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| weshay | matbu, ^ | 14:33 |
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| shardy | reduxio: Hi! There's no registration process as such, you can just show up with patches to our repos | 14:33 |
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| shardy | reduxio: FYI we're in the process of some major internal refactoring, so you may want to drop into #tripleo to discuss before starting | 14:33 |
| EmilienM | shardy: ok I won't spend too much time, just a quick look to see where does it come from | 14:34 |
| shardy | reduxio: there are several integration points for vendor drivers, so if you give us more details, we can help you get started | 14:34 |
| shardy | (in #tripleo after the meeting is probably best) | 14:34 |
| shardy | EmilienM: ack, thanks! | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | reduxio: if it's a neutron or cinder driver, please ping me I can also help | 14:35 |
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| shardy | #topic Specs | 14:35 |
| reduxio | shardy: Thanks, i will join tripleo. | 14:35 |
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| shardy | So, there's been some discussion on the topic of composable upgrades | 14:35 |
| shardy | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-composable-upgrades-discussion | 14:36 |
| shardy | Basically there's some interest in using ansible to drive the upgrade process (vs the scripts currently used) | 14:36 |
| shardy | I'm also looking at enabling rolling updates via SoftwareDeploymentGroup as an alternative | 14:36 |
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| marios | to clarify, the ansible poc for upgrades is to enable upgrade of specific services. | 14:37 |
| shardy | it'd be good to have wider review of the patches referenced, so we can start to gain consensus on whether the proposed approaches are viable, and if they're a good fit for TripleO | 14:37 |
| shardy | I'm planning to start a ML thread with more details when I get the alternative heat based approach working | 14:37 |
| marios | compared to the current workflow which is to upgrade per node (docs at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308985/ for current workflow) | 14:38 |
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| jokke_ | quick question of that. I see a lot of "rolling upgrades" been talked around at the moment. Does this mean tripleO components or the services in this specific case? | 14:38 |
| shardy | jokke_: it means the services currently running on the controller | 14:39 |
| reduxio | EmilienM: It's a cinder driver, and i will appreciate any help since i am new to this and kind of stumbling... | 14:39 |
| shardy | and/or upgrading the controllers one by one | 14:39 |
| jistr | though one-by-one might not be often possible due to db migrations, at least during major upgrades | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | shardy: ok, then it might be worth of waiting until the service teams figures out how to do rolling upgrades before widly trying to figure out how we do it in the deployment end ;) | 14:40 |
| rhallisey | I don't know if a one by one will work | 14:40 |
| jistr | (we already do minor updates in a rolling fashion) | 14:40 |
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| rhallisey | I'm also skeptical if rolling service by service will work | 14:40 |
| marios | jokke_: agree, though this is more about the mechanism at this stage | 14:40 |
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| marios | jokke_: once we have per version upgrade 'hook' we can do the thing the service teams tell us is the right thing | 14:40 |
| marios | s/per version/per service | 14:41 |
| jistr | rhallisey: yea the PoC i submitted should allow rolling the service-by-service into one big step if we discover that service-by-service is undoable with RPM dependencies | 14:41 |
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| jokke_ | marios: gotcha | 14:41 |
| jistr | rhallisey: s/rolling/conflating/ | 14:41 |
| shardy | Yeah, it's about wiring things in to enable per-service definition of what's required to do an upgrade | 14:41 |
| jistr | to be more precise | 14:41 |
| shardy | perhaps the rolling upgrade thing is a tangent, but it's one of the reasons cited for wanting to use ansible | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | just thought that it might be worth of raising that seems like most of the services does not know how/if their individual components can be upgraded on the fly or not ;) | 14:43 |
| shardy | I'm making SoftwareDeploymentGroup able to do it, so we can compare the approaches | 14:43 |
| jistr | shardy: ah ok i see what you mean. Well it depends on the particular service. E.g. for swift storage or probably nova computes, we indeed want a rolling upgrade even when it's a major upgrade. | 14:43 |
| jistr | but for others, like many controller services, rolling upgrade isn't possible | 14:43 |
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| jistr | so flexibility in this is key i think | 14:44 |
| shardy | jistr: ack, but we still want/need some method to perform rolling updates where the role and services support it | 14:44 |
| shardy | Ok, I guess we can follow up on the ML, but in the meantime pls comment on the patches | 14:44 |
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| jistr | yea those approaches (rolling vs. non-rolling) could be mixed perhaps, even on a single node | 14:45 |
| rhallisey | shardy, right, for that reason I'd argue we use ansible | 14:45 |
| shardy | we may have some side-meetings on this topic over the next couple of weeks to gain consensus | 14:45 |
| jistr | depends again if we hit issues with RPM deps | 14:45 |
| rhallisey | because technially services could be anywhere | 14:45 |
| shardy | (location/time tbc) | 14:45 |
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| rhallisey | there is a bluejeans call tmr for anyone interested | 14:46 |
| rhallisey | figured I'd throw out and open invite | 14:46 |
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| shardy | Anything else on specs to raise this week? | 14:47 |
| shadower | The validations spec could use some eyballs. It's stuck waiting for more reviews/feedback | 14:47 |
| shardy | shadower: ack, thanks for the reminder | 14:47 |
| shadower | I understand there's a ton other work so people don't have time | 14:48 |
| shadower | but it's a small spec | 14:48 |
| shadower | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255792/ | 14:48 |
| shardy | the new validations repo is setup now, and I didn't see any objections to adding shadower and mandre to tripleo-core so they can approve patches for validations | 14:48 |
| shardy | I'll do that later today | 14:48 |
| shadower | shardy: thanks! | 14:48 |
| shardy | #topic Open Discussion | 14:49 |
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| shardy | One thing from me | 14:49 |
| shardy | I'm going to be travelling next week, so can someone volunteer to run this meeting? | 14:49 |
| shardy | I may make it, but likely to be in the airport with uncertain wifi connectivity | 14:50 |
| trown | I can run the meeting next week | 14:50 |
| shardy | #info trown to run next weeks meeting | 14:50 |
| derekh | quick one from me, If people have time, could ye take a look at updating the development environment census http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/097284.html | 14:50 |
| shardy | trown: thanks! :) | 14:50 |
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| trown | np | 14:50 |
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| shardy | Ok, anything else to raise before we wrap up the meeting? | 14:51 |
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| shardy | Alright then, thanks everyone! | 14:52 |
| shardy | #endmeeting | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | thanks! | 14:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 14 14:52:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-06-14-14.00.html | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-06-14-14.00.txt | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | thanks | 14:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-06-14-14.00.log.html | 14:52 |
| saneax | thanks! | 14:53 |
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| ccamacho | thanks! | 14:53 |
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| tmorin1 | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 14 15:04:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:04 |
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| tmorin1 | hi doude, matrohon, pcarver, timirnich, wdeclercq | 15:04 |
| pcarver | hi | 15:04 |
| matrohon | hi | 15:04 |
| mickeys | hi | 15:04 |
| tmorin1 | hi mickeys | 15:04 |
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| tmorin1 | let's start... | 15:05 |
| doude | tmorin1: hi | 15:05 |
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| tmorin1 | #addchair matrohon | 15:06 |
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| tmorin1 | #chair matrohon | 15:07 |
| openstack | Current chairs: matrohon tmorin1 | 15:07 |
| tmorin1 | better :) | 15:07 |
| tmorin1 | ok | 15:07 |
| tmorin1 | announces ? | 15:07 |
| tmorin1 | for personal reasons that was a slow week for me, not much to announce | 15:07 |
| tmorin1 | the work by cedric on the horizon UI has advanced well | 15:08 |
| wdeclercq | hey * (was afk) | 15:08 |
| tmorin1 | hi wdeclercq :) | 15:08 |
| tmorin1 | the change is I think ready for a review (matrohon ?) | 15:08 |
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| tmorin1 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322134/ | 15:08 |
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| tmorin1 | cedric will soon push the change for the non-admin horizon parts | 15:09 |
| tmorin1 | I've requested a 4.0.1 release to incorporate one bugfix on the bagpipe driver | 15:10 |
| tmorin1 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/1589501 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1589501 in neutron "Request Mitaka maintenance release for networking-bgpvpn" [Low,New] - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka) | 15:10 |
| tmorin1 | I hope ihrachys will find the time to pull the trigger soon | 15:10 |
| tmorin1 | other announces ? | 15:11 |
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| tmorin1 | #topic new features | 15:11 |
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| tmorin1 | (reminder: the pad where we discuss is at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/bgpvpn_advanced_features) | 15:11 |
| tmorin1 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/bgpvpn_advanced_features | 15:11 |
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| tmorin1 | doude, pcarver, did you find some time to have a look ? | 15:12 |
| tmorin1 | we have an audio meeting planned with Jan next Thursday to pursue the discussion | 15:12 |
| tmorin1 | anyone can join | 15:13 |
| pcarver | tmorin1: I took a look and shared with a few folks but don't have any specific feedback yet | 15:13 |
| tmorin1 | 13:00 UTC | 15:13 |
| tmorin1 | just ask me for the invite | 15:13 |
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| tmorin1 | pcarver: ok -- would you think it useful to reserve some Q&A time with them on the topic ? | 15:14 |
| doude | tmorin1: I started to have a look, no comment for the moment | 15:14 |
| pcarver | tmorin1: It would be useful, but I'm struggling to get critical items done before I go on vacation next week. I probably won't get to it before mid-July. | 15:15 |
| tmorin1 | pcarver: ok -- I'm note sure what to hope for: that we advance fast enough on the topic, or that we do not and we can wait for more feedback :-/ | 15:16 |
| pcarver | One use case I am aware of though, is integration with networking-sfc. We're specifically interested in service chains that apply based on which MPLS VPN(s) the network is attached to. | 15:17 |
| tmorin1 | pcarver: this is a very important topic | 15:17 |
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| tmorin1 | as quickly discussed in Austin, we need to progress the discussion with the -sfc team | 15:19 |
| tmorin1 | I see two possible ways: | 15:20 |
| tmorin1 | - BGPVPN--Network association + SFC classifier referrring to that Network and inferring the presence of a BGVPN | 15:20 |
| tmorin1 | - have the SFC classifier directly refer to a BGPVPN (as ingress, egress, or two BGVPNs ingress/egress) | 15:20 |
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| tmorin1 | pcarver: ^^ does the new/future classifier spec already allows refererring to Networks rather than only IP prefixes | 15:22 |
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| pcarver | tmorin1: sorry. Double booked on voice conference call | 15:23 |
| pcarver | be with you in a sec | 15:23 |
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| pcarver | ok, yes both of those look like potential ideas. In particular there's a desire that when new prefixes are learned via BPG that the flow classifier at the vSwitch level would use them to guide traffic through chains | 15:26 |
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| tmorin1 | pcarver: yes | 15:28 |
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| pcarver | s/BPG/BGP/ | 15:30 |
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| tmorin1 | pcarver: this ^^ will require not only integration in terms of API abstraction, but also something well designed for the dataplane part | 15:32 |
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| pcarver | tmorin1: yes, agreed. I've only just started thinking about this. | 15:32 |
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| tmorin1 | pcarver: ok | 15:34 |
| tmorin1 | pcarver: would you have a pointer on the status of the discussion on the new classifier ? | 15:35 |
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| pcarver | tmorin1: It hasn't really started yet. I've just had discussion with someone internal who doesn't really get involved with OpenStack. I need to shape my scribled handwritten notes into some sort of use cases or other public discussion | 15:36 |
| tmorin1 | pcarver: well, the team has had a few weekly meetings, I just need to find the logs/pad to have a look, I couldn't attend because of timezone issues | 15:38 |
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| pcarver | tmorin1: sorry, comprehension fail due to ongoing voice conference call. Thought we were still on the previous topic. | 15:38 |
| pcarver | Yes, there has been some discussion on flow classifier but I don't have a good summary. I think there's been some confusion over meeting time. | 15:39 |
| tmorin1 | pcarver: sorry, my mistake as well | 15:39 |
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| tmorin1 | pcarver: ok | 15:39 |
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| pcarver | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Neutron_Common_Classifier_meeting | 15:40 |
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| pcarver | The link to meetings logs is broken. I'll see about fixing that | 15:40 |
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| tmorin1 | pcarver: ok, thanks | 15:41 |
| tmorin1 | what else do we have to discuss ? | 15:41 |
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| mickeys | The patch set for BGP EVPN IP Prefix Advertisement has been updated to respond to comments, adding content as requested | 15:43 |
| mickeys | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322654/ | 15:43 |
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| mickeys | An RFE was submitted to add VNI in the bgpvpns table | 15:45 |
| mickeys | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/1590908 | 15:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1590908 in bgpvpn "[RFE] Add 'VNI' column in bgpvpns table in Neutron database." [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Siddanagouda Khot (siddanmk) | 15:45 |
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| tmorin1 | yes | 15:47 |
| matrohon | mickeys : I'm not sure siddamk will be able to provide an implementation for the bug | 15:47 |
| matrohon | mickeys, do you have any other volunteer? | 15:47 |
| tmorin1 | mickeys: I did a first review, and plan to revisit the change perhaps this week | 15:47 |
| mickeys | steve_ruan will take over the bug. siddanmk sent him the patch in progress. | 15:47 |
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| tmorin1 | mickeys: good | 15:47 |
| matrohon | mickeys, great! | 15:48 |
| tmorin1 | I commented on the bug to give a link to the spec we had already written for the VNID | 15:48 |
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| mickeys | tmorin1: Thanks for the pointer. I will review. | 15:49 |
| tmorin1 | mickeys: good | 15:49 |
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| tmorin1 | mickeys: there one thing I noticed, but haven't yet provided as comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322654/ | 15:49 |
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| tmorin1 | mickeys: we may want to have on a said setup, both the DR E-VPN use case, and the BGPVPN use cases | 15:50 |
| tmorin1 | mickeys: to allow this, it means that the BGPVPN service plugin would need to have multiple drivers be enabled at the same time | 15:50 |
| tmorin1 | this is currently not supported (but not hard to support) | 15:51 |
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| mickeys | Anything specific to EVPN, or is this a general enhancement for any set of drivers? | 15:51 |
| tmorin1 | not specific to E-VPN | 15:51 |
| tmorin1 | general enhancement for the service plugin | 15:52 |
| mickeys | tmorin1: Understood | 15:52 |
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| mickeys | I guess we also need an addition to the type value in bgpvpns for evpn. Should this be a separate BGPVPN RFE? | 15:53 |
| tmorin1 | mickeys: worth thinking about whether we need one or not | 15:54 |
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| tmorin1 | mickeys: have you considered 'type' 'l3' with 'technique' that would be set to 'evpn-prefixes' -- that would seem to me as a nice fit | 15:54 |
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| tmorin1 | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/networking-bgpvpn/future/attributes.html#technique-attribute | 15:55 |
| mickeys | tmorin1: I forgot about the 'technique' that you showed me in Austin. Let me take a look at that. | 15:55 |
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| tmorin1 | ok ! | 15:55 |
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| tmorin1 | like VNI, it's an attribute that we specified, but which has not been implemented yet | 15:56 |
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| mickeys | tmorin1: A related issue is the different options with regard to route types in EVPN prefix advertisement. My preference is to leave that to config, once more than one set of types is supported. | 15:57 |
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| tmorin1 | perhaps | 16:00 |
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| tmorin1 | I'm not sure what you need to control | 16:00 |
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| tmorin1 | it's time to wrap up | 16:00 |
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| tmorin1 | by everyone | 16:00 |
| tmorin1 | bye everyone | 16:01 |
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| tmorin1 | many thanks | 16:01 |
| tmorin1 | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 14 16:01:17 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| wdeclercq | goodbye | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-06-14-15.04.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-06-14-15.04.txt | 16:01 |
| mickeys | bye | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-06-14-15.04.log.html | 16:01 |
| hongbin | #startmeeting containers | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 14 16:01:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:01 |
| hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-06-14_1600_UTC Today's agenda | 16:01 |
| hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 16:01 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:01 |
| mkrai | Madhuri Kumari | 16:01 |
| rpothier | Rob Pothier | 16:01 |
| strigazi | Spyros Trigazis | 16:01 |
| jvgrant_ | Jaycen Grant | 16:01 |
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| tango | Ton Ngo | 16:01 |
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| eghobo | o/ | 16:01 |
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| dane_leblanc | o/ | 16:02 |
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| hongbin | Thanks for joining the meeting adrian_otto mkrai rpothier strigazi jvgrant_ tango eghobo dane_leblanc | 16:02 |
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| hongbin | #topic Announcements | 16:02 |
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| hongbin | I have no announcement | 16:02 |
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| hongbin | Any annoumenent from our team member? | 16:03 |
| muralia | o/ | 16:03 |
| hongbin | #topic Review Action Items | 16:03 |
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| Drago | o/ | 16:03 |
| hongbin | 1. hongbin send a ML to ask for a host for Magnum midcycle (DONE) | 16:03 |
| hongbin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/096803.html | 16:03 |
| hongbin | 2. hongbin create a doodle pool for collecting midcycle time (DONE) | 16:03 |
| hongbin | #link http://doodle.com/poll/5tbcyc37yb7ckiec | 16:03 |
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| hongbin | For the midcycle, we will discuss it later in the agenda | 16:04 |
| hongbin | #topic Essential Blueprints Review | 16:04 |
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| hongbin | 1. Support baremetal container clusters (strigazi) | 16:04 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-baremetal-full-support | 16:04 |
| strigazi | There is some progress: I'm testing http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/097235.html | 16:05 |
| strigazi | I don' | 16:05 |
| strigazi | t have results yet | 16:05 |
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| strigazi | I'll finish tomorrow | 16:05 |
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| strigazi | nothing else | 16:06 |
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| hongbin | Thanks strigazi | 16:06 |
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| tango | I looked into building fc23 image, diskimagebuilder only supports up to fc22 | 16:06 |
| hongbin | Question for strigazi ? | 16:06 |
| tango | It gives an error for fc23, looks like some packages are missing or got moved | 16:06 |
| hongbin | Is it reasonable to ask for fc23 for dib team? | 16:07 |
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| strigazi | tango: Yuanying have some notes about it | 16:07 |
| strigazi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247296/ | 16:07 |
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| strigazi | they are working on it | 16:07 |
| tango | ok, I will follow up | 16:07 |
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| hongbin | 2. Magnum User Guide for Cloud Operator (tango) | 16:08 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/user-guide | 16:08 |
| tango | There are patches for Kubernetes and Swarm sections, currently under review. Thanks everyone for the feedback | 16:08 |
| tango | I am now working on the bay and baymodel sections | 16:09 |
| tango | That's all for now | 16:09 |
| hongbin | Thanks Ton | 16:09 |
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| hongbin | Comment for this BP? | 16:09 |
| hongbin | tango: do you need any help from the team? | 16:10 |
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| tango | As usual, the sections are laid out so anyone can jump in and pick one up to work on | 16:11 |
| hongbin | tango: I might help you for the mesos session if I have a chance | 16:11 |
| hongbin | ok | 16:11 |
| muralia | I just submitted a bay driver section update. only thing missing is an example driver. | 16:11 |
| tango | Some are easy, since they mainly involve integrating the existing doc, like TLS | 16:11 |
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| hongbin | 3. COE Bay Drivers (jamie_h) | 16:11 |
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| muralia | The patch which moves the fedora atomic image scripts is ready for review and merging. | 16:12 |
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| muralia | im currently working on removing all the hardcoded paths to classes and templates. | 16:12 |
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| muralia | lots of tests are failing after moving classes around. fixing them one at a time. will update the patch soon | 16:13 |
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| muralia | thats all for me. | 16:13 |
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| hongbin | Thanks muralia | 16:13 |
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| hongbin | 4. Create a magnum installation guide (strigazi) | 16:13 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-installation-guide | 16:13 |
| strigazi | new commit based on the template guide https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315165/ | 16:14 |
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| strigazi | With this format we can merge one distro at a time | 16:14 |
| strigazi | The issue is neutron lbaas | 16:14 |
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| hongbin | Yes, neutron lbaas don't seem to have an operator-facing installation guide | 16:15 |
| strigazi | we have a user asking about help for lbaas | 16:15 |
| strigazi | We can't offer help/support for it | 16:15 |
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| hongbin | I have sent an email to lbaas to ask for operator-facing guide | 16:16 |
| hongbin | It looks they didn't reply yet | 16:16 |
| strigazi | I pointed the user to the lbaas irc channel | 16:16 |
| strigazi | that's all | 16:16 |
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| hongbin | strigazi: For short-term, we can point the user to lbaas channel | 16:17 |
| hongbin | strigazi: but we need a solution for long-term | 16:17 |
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| tango | I have some notes on installing lbaas in our system | 16:17 |
| hongbin | tango: lbaas v1 or v2? | 16:18 |
| tango | both | 16:18 |
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| tango | based on looking around and trying out | 16:18 |
| jvgrant_ | can we do a temporary lbaas install guide that just exists within ours until they have it ready? | 16:18 |
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| hongbin | Not a bad idea | 16:18 |
| strigazi | It's better to focus on decoupling | 16:19 |
| strigazi | and make lbaas an optional feature | 16:19 |
| hongbin | We still need to provide instruction after decoupling | 16:19 |
| strigazi | The brave users can try to install it :) | 16:19 |
| hongbin | yes | 16:19 |
| tango | or desparate :) | 16:19 |
| jvgrant_ | it can have the basics for the optional feature, but refer to lbaas for support and details | 16:19 |
| Drago | I am working on decoupling LBaaS | 16:19 |
| hongbin | Drago: How is that goinig? | 16:20 |
| Drago | Fine so far. I am almost getting a kube cluster fully spun up but keep running into devstack space issues | 16:20 |
| hongbin | Drago: I might help you offline to figure out the space issues | 16:21 |
| Drago | hongbin: Thanks! | 16:21 |
| hongbin | Drago: you do that by copying the existing templaes or using Heat conditional to consilidat the templates? | 16:22 |
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| Drago | I am using Heat environment files to select between OS::Heat::None or the Neutron resource | 16:22 |
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| Drago | It effectively removes the resource | 16:23 |
| hongbin | I am not sure if it is a good idea | 16:23 |
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| hongbin | Drago: It might worth to have a WIP patch for earlier feedback from the team | 16:23 |
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| Drago | I was going to do that once I had a working POC | 16:23 |
| hongbin | sounds good | 16:23 |
| hongbin | Thanks Drago | 16:24 |
| hongbin | Back to the lbaas installation guide, I will push the lbaas team to produce one | 16:24 |
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| hongbin | At the meantime, tango feel free to upload your notes if it is helpful | 16:24 |
| tango | ok, I will fix up some doc and find a place to upload | 16:25 |
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| hongbin | #action hongbin follow up with neutron-lbaas team to produce a operator-facing installation guide | 16:25 |
| hongbin | Any other comment for this BP? | 16:25 |
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| hongbin | #topic Magnum UI Subteam Update (bradjones) | 16:26 |
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| hongbin | Shu sent out a proposal to re-organize the magnum-ui subteam | 16:26 |
| hongbin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/097066.html | 16:26 |
| hongbin | I think we have enough +1 so far, but welcome your votes if you want | 16:26 |
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| hongbin | Thanks everyone who voted on the proposal | 16:27 |
| hongbin | any question regarding to the ui subteam? | 16:27 |
| hongbin | #topic Kuryr Integration Update (tango) | 16:27 |
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| hongbin | tango: any update from the Kuryr team? | 16:28 |
| tango | I attended the Kuryr meeting yesterday | 16:28 |
| tango | Shared with the team my experience deploying Kuryr using their Docker image | 16:28 |
| tango | I suggested improving the logging to help with troubleshooting, so this was taken as an action item | 16:29 |
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| tango | They are proceeding with the new driver for Kubernetes, so I am following that effort | 16:30 |
| tango | That's all for now | 16:30 |
| hongbin | Thanks Ton | 16:30 |
| hongbin | Question for Ton? | 16:31 |
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| hongbin | #topic Other blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 16:31 |
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| hongbin | 1. Midcycle | 16:31 |
| hongbin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/096853.html CERN offers host at Switzerland | 16:32 |
| hongbin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/097005.html RackSpace offers host at Austin, San Antonio or San Francisco | 16:32 |
| tango | CERN would be awesome, although travel might be difficult for some. | 16:32 |
| hongbin | For who will attend the midcycle, which location you prefer? | 16:32 |
| muralia | Austin. | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | Austin | 16:32 |
| Drago | Austin | 16:33 |
| eghobo | SF or any place in USA ;) | 16:33 |
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| hongbin | SF or CERN | 16:33 |
| strigazi | CERN | 16:33 |
| tango | SF or CERN | 16:33 |
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| strigazi | we can have a doodle | 16:34 |
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| hongbin | Yes, we could have another doodle for choosing the location | 16:34 |
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| adrian_otto | does doodle do that? | 16:35 |
| hongbin | choosing location | 16:35 |
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| adrian_otto | it might be best to solve the locationpreference, because not all locations are available on all dates | 16:35 |
| hongbin | Right now, we have 3 Austin | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | so selecting a location will allow us to select a date, and then we can make our travel plans. | 16:36 |
| hongbin | sure | 16:36 |
| hongbin | Then, let's resolve the location preference for now | 16:36 |
| hongbin | Would I ask for a question differently | 16:36 |
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| hongbin | Do you have a location that you want to exclude? | 16:36 |
| hongbin | For those who will attend midcycle, please list the location that you cannot go | 16:37 |
| hongbin | Austin, SF, or CERN | 16:37 |
| hongbin | 1. Who cannot go to Austin? | 16:38 |
| hongbin | 2. Who cannot go to Switherland (CERN)? | 16:38 |
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| muralia | do we reply now? | 16:39 |
| hongbin | yes | 16:39 |
| adrian_otto | 50% chance of getting that approved for me, probably lower for the other Austin residents | 16:39 |
| hongbin | please | 16:39 |
| muralia | i cant go to cern | 16:39 |
| Drago | no cern for me either | 16:39 |
| hongbin | ok | 16:39 |
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| Drago | muralia and I are based in Austin | 16:40 |
| hongbin | strigazi: is folks from CERN able to travel to US? | 16:40 |
| muralia | lets do this with a doodle pool. we need more people responding. | 16:40 |
| hongbin | ok...... | 16:40 |
| strigazi | Probably, only me, but I have to ask | 16:40 |
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| hongbin | #action hongbin create a doodle pool to select a location | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | I suggest using http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/ for selecting a location | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | and then a Doodle poll for selecting a date | 16:41 |
| eghobo | i cant go to cern, international travel is always pain ): | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | I'm pretty sure I need to renew my passport | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | and that takes like 8 weeks | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | so it would be touch to finish in time | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | *tough | 16:42 |
| hongbin | strigazi: It looks many folks cannot travel to CERN | 16:42 |
| strigazi | ok | 16:43 |
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| hongbin | I am afraid we need to cross out CERN | 16:43 |
| strigazi | np | 16:43 |
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| hongbin | The rest is Austin and SF | 16:43 |
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| hongbin | Will select over these two locations by using http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/ | 16:44 |
| tango | For SF, would it be the same location as the last time? | 16:44 |
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| adrian_otto | yes | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | the 2nd street Rackspace office in downtown San Francisco | 16:44 |
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| tango | Great, we can try the beer tap again :) | 16:44 |
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| adrian_otto | heh, yep, that's the one. | 16:44 |
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| strigazi | http://doodle.com/poll/2x9utspir7vk8ter | 16:45 |
| hongbin | strigazi: thanks | 16:45 |
| hongbin | OK. Let's advance topic | 16:45 |
| hongbin | 2. Support heterogenous cluster | 16:45 |
| hongbin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/096380.html ML discussion | 16:46 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/manually-manage-bay-nodes the BP of manually managing bay nodes | 16:46 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-availability-zones the BP of supporting availability zones | 16:46 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/support-multiple-flavor the BP of supporting multiple flavor | 16:46 |
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| hongbin | We discussed this in the last meeting | 16:46 |
| hongbin | The arguement is if it belongs to Heat or Magnum | 16:47 |
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| hongbin | For this, I sent an email to ask the Heat team | 16:47 |
| hongbin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/096812.html Question for Heat | 16:47 |
| hongbin | From my understanding, Heat doesn't support multiple resource group | 16:48 |
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| hongbin | If want a heterogenious feature, nodes with different flavor, AZ, etc, need to go to the same resource group | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | My understanding is that you can do it with nested templates | 16:48 |
| hongbin | how? | 16:49 |
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| adrian_otto | you create child templates that each contain a resource group | 16:49 |
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| adrian_otto | Drago, can you confirm this is possible? | 16:49 |
| Drago | That would be creating multiple resource groups. I'm not sure how that's the same. | 16:49 |
| hongbin | If I want 2, 3, N resource group, we need to create N resource groups? | 16:50 |
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| strigazi | For AZs N will be small | 16:50 |
| Drago | There may be some hacky way to use the index_var to select particular options | 16:50 |
| Drago | if we really wanted it all to be in the same RG | 16:50 |
| hongbin | Personally, I don't like to put everything in the same RG | 16:51 |
| hongbin | I would rather to let Magnum to create N Heat stacks, each of which contains a RG | 16:52 |
| hongbin | Thoughts? | 16:53 |
| adrian_otto | it does seem more simple that way, actually | 16:53 |
| hongbin | OK | 16:53 |
| hongbin | We could have contributors to explore that direction | 16:53 |
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| Drago | Since I'm familiar with Heat, I may be able to explore that | 16:54 |
| hongbin | agree? | 16:54 |
| adrian_otto | so each stack contains a single homogeneous RG? | 16:54 |
| hongbin | yes | 16:54 |
| adrian_otto | and Magnum has a mapping of the different stacks to know which ones are related to a particular bay? | 16:54 |
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| adrian_otto | that may complicate the state machine for bays | 16:54 |
| adrian_otto | we will need some way to surface the state of each of the different bays | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | s/bays/stacks/ | 16:55 |
| hongbin | Yes | 16:55 |
| Drago | What is stopping us from putting the different RGs in one template? | 16:55 |
| hongbin | Basically, Magnum manages 1 stack or N stacks | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | so users will know when the bay is actually in a working state | 16:55 |
| hongbin | Magnum will tell users the state of the bays by iterating each stacks | 16:56 |
| hongbin | #topic Open Discussion | 16:56 |
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| hongbin | We could think about the idea for now, and re-discuss it in the next meeting | 16:57 |
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| Drago | I wanted to point out that a helpful patch landed in python-heatclient. It makes it easy to create a visual diagram of all resources and their dependencies in a stack: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286913/ | 16:58 |
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| strigazi | cool | 16:59 |
| Drago | (Thanks, stevebaker :) ) | 16:59 |
| tango | nice | 16:59 |
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| hongbin | Will try that | 16:59 |
| hongbin | Time is up | 17:00 |
| hongbin | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 14 17:00:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-06-14-16.01.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-06-14-16.01.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-06-14-16.01.log.html | 17:00 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 14 17:00:49 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #topic rollcall | 17:01 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 17:01 |
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| vakovalchuk_ | o/ | 17:01 |
| Nikolay_St | o/ | 17:01 |
| tlashchova_ | o/ | 17:01 |
| lin_yang | o/ | 17:01 |
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| ddovbii__ | o/ | 17:02 |
| kzaitsev_mb | we have pretty thin agenda for today ) | 17:02 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda | 17:02 |
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| freerunner | o/ | 17:03 |
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| lexplua | o/ | 17:04 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Action Items review | 17:05 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | 1) Nikolay_St ping heat team if it's a good idea to enable convergence on our CI | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St: have you had a chance? =) | 17:05 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | or would it be enabled by default in devstack anyways? And since our CI installs heat from devstack — it would be enabled automatically | 17:06 |
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| Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_mb: I have a discussion with Sergey | 17:07 |
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| Nikolay_St | he said that we can do it for free :) | 17:07 |
| Nikolay_St | personally, I plan to enable convergence on our CI on 'experimental' host | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | for free — you mean it would be turned on automatically, or that we're free to do it? | 17:07 |
| ativelkov | o/ | 17:07 |
| ativelkov | sorry bor being late | 17:07 |
| Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_mb: we are free to do it | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | cool, let's enable it before n2 then ) | 17:08 |
| kzaitsev_mb | 2) kzaitsev_mb vakovalchuk see that backports from prev review iteration are merged | 17:08 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | we still have 2 patches not up on review from last time, but that activity is blocked by stable/mitaka being red. | 17:09 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so gotta fix that first | 17:09 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #action Nikolay_St test convergence on our CI and get ready to enable it | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #action kzaitsev_mb vakovalchuk see that backports from prev review iteration are merged after stable/mitaka is unlocked | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | k. guess that's all with the action items | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Open Discussion | 17:10 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I have a couple of updates, I can share =) | 17:11 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://pypi.python.org/pypi/yaql/1.1.1 | 17:11 |
| kzaitsev_mb | 1.1.1 yaql is released with py3 fixes. meaning that soon it's going to be updated in the upper-constraints and allowing us to enable a lot of our py3 tests blocked by it | 17:12 |
| kzaitsev_mb | thanks ativelkov =) | 17:12 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/097287.html | 17:13 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I'd also like to bring this email to the teams attention. Continuing the initiative led by Sergey Kraynev on separating murano-apps into a separate team. | 17:14 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I've got a couple more email drafts, that I'm about to write later today =) | 17:16 |
| sergmelikyan | I talked with infra team regarding taking ownership of murano.io by foundation/community, we need approval from foundation and that openstack-infra team can move domain and than we can talk what we should host on that domain (openstack specific page?) | 17:16 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link http://murano.io | 17:17 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | seen that happening just couple of minutes ago =) | 17:17 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | sergmelikyan: don't really know. Should it be just a collection of links to pages involving murano? i.e docs, releasenotes, apps.openstack.org, project navigator, etc? | 17:19 |
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| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: I am ok with anything, main point is domain is taken by our project and we safely use that in namespaces | 17:20 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | sergmelikyan: haven't we planned to change it to murano.examples or smth similar to give devs visual hints, that FQNs are actually not magic at all | 17:24 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | io.murano should only probably stay in the core library itself | 17:24 |
| kzaitsev_mb | still a valid point to use it there =) | 17:25 |
| sergmelikyan | :) | 17:25 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I'm planning to get a letter on fqn usages soon and it's really nice, that murano.io is up again. Would make a simple point about how and why we have it in our class names =) | 17:26 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | thanks for bringing this up =) | 17:26 |
| kzaitsev_mb | ok. I think I'm out of news/updates. Does anyone have anything to add/ask? =) | 17:27 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | lin_yang: lexplua: maybe you gyus? =) | 17:28 |
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| lexplua | I don`t think so | 17:28 |
| lin_yang | kzaitsev_mb: no more from me.thanks for asking | 17:28 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok then, I'll wait 5-10 more mins in case anyone has anything for discussion and would end the meeting early | 17:30 |
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| lexplua | I have 1 question | 17:37 |
| lexplua | Do we force python2.7 usage on murano-spawned instances in some way ? | 17:37 |
| lexplua | ativelkov ? | 17:38 |
| kzaitsev_mb | lexplua: nope, I don't think we force it in any way | 17:38 |
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| ativelkov | we don't. But in py26 environments murano-agent may not get installed properly, afair | 17:39 |
| ativelkov | for the cases when the image has no pre-installed agent | 17:39 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | true — as a workaround — you can make an image with pre-built murano-agent, that still supports py26 | 17:40 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | gotta check which version still supported it though ) | 17:40 |
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| lexplua | Ok, thank you | 17:41 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok, thanks everyone for attending! | 17:46 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #endmeeting | 17:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 14 17:46:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-06-14-17.00.html | 17:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-06-14-17.00.txt | 17:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-06-14-17.00.log.html | 17:46 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 14 19:00:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
| sslypushenko | o/ | 19:00 |
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| pvaneck | o/ | 19:00 |
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| catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-06-14 | 19:01 |
| andrey-mp | hi | 19:01 |
| andrey-mp | o/ | 19:01 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: hi | 19:02 |
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| catherineD | agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-06-14 | 19:03 |
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| catherineD | #topic Feature branch feature/vendor | 19:03 |
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| luzC | o/ | 19:03 |
| catherineD | luzC: hello welcome | 19:03 |
| catherineD | so last week we agreed that we will create a feature branch | 19:03 |
| catherineD | and we did .. pvaneck: and andrey-mp: start to submit patches to the branch | 19:04 |
| catherineD | thx | 19:04 |
| catherineD | This branch is for non-production commits only | 19:04 |
| catherineD | #link first commit to this branch --> Add vendor UI ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328780/ ) | 19:05 |
| andrey-mp | btw, I didn't read your last meeting log - do you have some document with branches agreement? | 19:05 |
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| catherineD | Please review ... | 19:05 |
| andrey-mp | I'm reviewing it | 19:06 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: yes we did .. | 19:06 |
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| catherineD | * AGREED: Use feature branch for development of new features and master branch for deployment (business as usual) ... (this supersedes the earlier agreement) (catherineD|2, 19:56:28) | 19:07 |
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| andrey-mp | :) | 19:07 |
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| catherineD | any other thought about this topic ? | 19:08 |
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| andrey-mp | I mean agreement how and when it will be merged | 19:08 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: you mean merger from feature branch to master? | 19:08 |
| andrey-mp | yeah | 19:08 |
| catherineD | we did not discuss when ... | 19:08 |
| andrey-mp | its strange... | 19:09 |
| catherineD | for the how ... I understand that there is exisiting method and procedure to merge feature branch to master | 19:09 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: you take a look right? | 19:09 |
| andrey-mp | you've made some desicion but don't how to apply it ) | 19:10 |
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| pvaneck | we will merge the feature vendor into master once we feel it is ready for production. WE already have the gerrit permissions to do it | 19:10 |
| pvaneck | i think it is fine | 19:10 |
| andrey-mp | ok | 19:11 |
| andrey-mp | its good ) | 19:11 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: according to Doug this is the best way ... | 19:11 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 19:12 |
| luzC | I just take a look | 19:12 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-06-14 | 19:12 |
| luzC | branch is only at refstack but not in refstackclient | 19:12 |
| sslypushenko | andrey-mp: not may be the best, but it will definitely work) | 19:13 |
| andrey-mp | it's common git method but not common to base OpenStack projects | 19:13 |
| catherineD | luzC: correct ... branch is only needed for refstack not refstack-client | 19:13 |
| andrey-mp | I'm ok with it ) | 19:13 |
| luzC | ok, sounds good | 19:13 |
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| catherineD | moving on ... | 19:14 |
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| andrey-mp | sslypushenko: I mentioned this way two meetings ago but you preferred OpenStack way ) | 19:14 |
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| catherineD | #topic Comments from Xuchao | 19:14 |
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| catherineD | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23refstack/%23refstack.2016-06-14.log.html | 19:15 |
| catherineD | I am kind of concern about the comments --> " You don't pay much attention to the problem ? " | 19:16 |
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| pvaneck | well the timezone differences make it tough to reply to irc messages in a timely matter | 19:17 |
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| catherineD | We pretty much answer every IRC question and comments to the bugs .... is there any thing else we should do here? | 19:17 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: that is true | 19:17 |
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| catherineD | Rockyg: any thoughts on how to handle the situation? | 19:18 |
| andrey-mp | but is this question related to RefStack? | 19:18 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: IMO it is not | 19:19 |
| Rockyg | I'm looking at the bug report now. I think this may be filed by a Huawei tester trying to pass the tests......give me a sec | 19:19 |
| andrey-mp | sure | 19:19 |
| catherineD | that is why I marked all bugs invalid | 19:19 |
| andrey-mp | so why should care about questions that is not related to us? ) | 19:19 |
| andrey-mp | also - there is a mailing list | 19:19 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: ChinaCloud according to the email address .. | 19:19 |
| andrey-mp | anyone can ask any question through the mailing list - I read it every day | 19:20 |
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| Rockyg | Hmmm. Still might be us ;-) | 19:20 |
| andrey-mp | we can add some note to refstack channel - "if no one answers you then try to ask via openstack-dev mailing list" | 19:21 |
| Rockyg | But, good reply. Although I think maybe also a link to the description og "flagged test" would help. | 19:21 |
| Rockyg | in the bug. | 19:21 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: after all it is RefStack tests that give them the results .... like in any development env ... QA and tests are the last places to catch failures... | 19:21 |
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| catherineD | Rockyg: I think I did give a link in one of the bug .... the issues are most bugs are for the same issues | 19:22 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: the comments in this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/refstack/+bug/1592239 gives the link about DefCore flagged tests | 19:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1592239 in refstack "The test run didn't actually run any tests" [Undecided,Invalid] - Assigned to xuchao (xuchao) | 19:23 |
| Rockyg | just mark them dupicates, then. and point the to the tempest original bug | 19:24 |
| catherineD | This is the first time that the little "flag" in-front of the test name does not mean much to a user | 19:24 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: would you be able to find out? | 19:24 |
| pvaneck | Maybe the refstack site needs an FAQ or more information outlining the separation between defcore, refstack, and tempest | 19:24 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: This is the reason I bring the topic here ..... Is there something that we can do? | 19:25 |
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| Rockyg | Yeah. agree with pvaneck | 19:25 |
| catherineD | however, this is the first time we encountered such questions for being on line for about one year now | 19:26 |
| sslypushenko | catherineD: we need some feedback from DefCore | 19:26 |
| Rockyg | Maybe we can link flag to the bug, or the reason the flag is there? | 19:26 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko: good idea .. I will add this as a topic to the DefCore working group ... | 19:27 |
| sslypushenko | flagged tests - it is DefCore idea.... so from refstack point of view we need just provide some explanation | 19:27 |
| Rockyg | More folks are trying to follow the steps, and china people are afraid to engage Chris. Even our people at Huawei. They need to be introduced to him before they will ask him questions | 19:27 |
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| sslypushenko | it is definitely looks like not a RefStack bug | 19:27 |
| sslypushenko | Rockyg: heh) | 19:28 |
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| Rockyg | For every flag defcore applies, we should have link to the reason or the review, or the bug or whatever. Could save us and chris a lot of effort | 19:28 |
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| catherineD | Rockyg: I think that would complicate the UI but I will ask for pvaneck: andrey-mp: opinions | 19:29 |
| Rockyg | Thanks. | 19:29 |
| pvaneck | right now, flag reasons are given as title text when you hover over the flag icon. But i can see how that may not be clear | 19:29 |
| Rockyg | we also might consider a training class at Barcelona for newbies trying to certify | 19:30 |
| catherineD | so the person does not seem to understand the concept ofDefCore using flag, aliases | 19:30 |
| Rockyg | Yup. | 19:30 |
| andrey-mp | Rockyg: +1 | 19:30 |
| Rockyg | a lot of folks don't read the docs;) | 19:30 |
| andrey-mp | +100 | 19:30 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: we did at Austin but the turn out seems to be low ... but I beleave a training course would help ... definitely thinking about it | 19:31 |
| luzC | +1 | 19:31 |
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| catherineD | Rockyg: +++ about not reading doc | 19:31 |
| catherineD | :-) | 19:31 |
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| Rockyg | Might consider some youtube videos. then you only have to do it once. We should talk with hogepodge and foundation about what would be useful | 19:32 |
| sslypushenko | Rockyg: nobody read the docs) | 19:32 |
| Rockyg | You know, it could also be a good business for a devops/tester type to consult on certs.... | 19:32 |
| catherineD | so seems like action plan would be 1) consider adding FAQ on RefStack 2) Discuss this with DefCore 3) RefStack training class at summit | 19:33 |
| andrey-mp | agreed | 19:33 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: I did refer people to the video of Austin summmit .. | 19:33 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 19:33 |
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| catherineD | but this time in Barcelona may be we will have a hands on class and not a speaker session? | 19:34 |
| catherineD | but hands on class won't have video | 19:34 |
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| catherineD | #agreed 1) consider adding FAQ on RefStack 2) Discuss this with DefCore 3) RefStack training class/speaker session at Barcelona summit | 19:35 |
| Rockyg | Could record it. And most of the hands on happens before the summit, so could get more time. | 19:35 |
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| Rockyg | and agree with all of what you just wrote... | 19:36 |
| catherineD | great .. good discussion ... any thing else? | 19:36 |
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| catherineD | hear nothing ,,, moving on | 19:36 |
| catherineD | #topic Blueprint | 19:36 |
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| andrey-mp | about asking in empty RefStack channel? | 19:37 |
| andrey-mp | will we try to let them know about openstack-dev mailing list? | 19:37 |
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| Rockyg | Maybe we should have a title that says email to ....? | 19:37 |
| andrey-mp | or is there any other mailing list that I can monitor? | 19:38 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: good idea ... no we use openstack-dev | 19:38 |
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| Rockyg | We don't use the dev mailing list. Maybe we should use the community ml instead? | 19:38 |
| catherineD | BTW could everyone also monitor refstack IRC and give answer ... | 19:38 |
| Rockyg | I think it's user-committee | 19:39 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: sslypushenko: your time zone may match China's better | 19:39 |
| Rockyg | Or we could say to use openstack It's the general one... | 19:39 |
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| andrey-mp | I can check IRC channel once at hour - but it's very rare to answering... | 19:40 |
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| Rockyg | Should ask hogepodge which one he thinks would be more likely for a certifier to be subscribed to | 19:40 |
| sslypushenko | catherineD: I'll try to help | 19:40 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: yea I know | 19:40 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko: andrey-mp: thx | 19:40 |
| * hogepodge reads backlog | 19:40 | |
| Rockyg | there are bots that will send you an email if someone types in a channel... | 19:40 |
| andrey-mp | People can ask in mailing list about time of discussion - and we will meet ) | 19:40 |
| sslypushenko | andrey-mp: try irccloud.com... it is really helpful tool | 19:41 |
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| andrey-mp | sslypushenko: thanks, will try | 19:41 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko: me too will try | 19:41 |
| catherineD | moving on ? | 19:41 |
| andrey-mp | yes | 19:42 |
| hogepodge | Rockyg: I hope people aren't afraid to approach me with questions. Please please let them know that I strive to be an equal representative for developers, users, and vendors. I truly want to help | 19:42 |
| catherineD | #link Implement ostestr on refstack client ( https://blueprints.launchpad.net/refstack/+spec/implement-ostestr-refstackclient ) Thanks luzC: | 19:42 |
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| Rockyg | I know that. It's a culture thing. | 19:42 |
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| catherineD | luzC: we will wait for your patch ... thanks for joining us .. | 19:43 |
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| luzC | yes, I'm submitting it later today :) | 19:44 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: any other thoughts on how to help this user Xuchao ? | 19:45 |
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| catherineD | luzC: thx | 19:45 |
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| catherineD | #topic Open reviews | 19:46 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: thx for --> Add 'cancel' registration feature ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329329/ ) | 19:46 |
| catherineD | question: Should we update the spec? So far, we use the spec as document for API.. | 19:47 |
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| hogepodge | catherineD: sorry, lots of side things going on. I'm trying to help him, and sent a private e-mail. My best suggestion is to resend a new patch | 19:48 |
| pvaneck | I don't think it would hurt. Probably should if you want to keep an accurate record of the API for when/if API docs are created | 19:49 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: Thanks | 19:49 |
| hogepodge | since he abandoned the changes I made that would have fixed his problem. | 19:49 |
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| hogepodge | (which isn't a problem anyway, since the tests are flagged... I was trying to guide him through the technical aspects of the patch as a new contributor) | 19:49 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: great .. I think we should ... I will submit a spec update | 19:49 |
| andrey-mp | spec are good to discuss something before implement... but they are not intended to add something. Nova team uses additional spec but it is very ugly... | 19:49 |
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| sslypushenko | catherineD: andrey-mp +1 for spec update | 19:50 |
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| Rockyg | +1 for spec update. | 19:50 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: sslypushenko: Let discuss more next week .. I do want to keep accurate info of our API | 19:51 |
| sslypushenko | we can consider specs like a documentation... | 19:51 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko: yea ... | 19:51 |
| andrey-mp | if we treat spec as documentation - it's ok for me to update them | 19:51 |
| Rockyg | sslypushenko, ++ Less confusing to update than add a new spec for each change | 19:51 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: that is how we use the API spec so far ... but we may want to start thinking about document the API outside of spec ... will discuss next week | 19:52 |
| catherineD | meanwhile please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328780/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329329/ | 19:53 |
| Rockyg | catherineD, Docs group is working on getting a process for documenting api | 19:53 |
| Rockyg | s in place. It's close but not wuite there yet | 19:53 |
| andrey-mp | 328780 - merged | 19:54 |
| catherineD | we want to have the UI complete before the DefCore midcycle so that we can show DefCore ( especially hogepodge: ) the UI before putting it on line | 19:54 |
| pvaneck | andrey-mp, thanks! | 19:54 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: super speed :-) | 19:54 |
| andrey-mp | I've started before meeting ) | 19:55 |
| catherineD | #topic Open discussion | 19:55 |
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| andrey-mp | what is the next UI change will be? | 19:55 |
| hogepodge | I was wondering if refstack would be a good place to add a javascript-based configuration generator for interop testing | 19:55 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: we can add product or add more fature to vendor | 19:56 |
| hogepodge | so a user could go to a page, enter information about their cloud, and get a basic tempest.conf and accounts.yaml file that they can start from based on our experiences and talks | 19:56 |
| catherineD | which one do we prefer ? pvaneck: andrey-mp: | 19:56 |
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| andrey-mp | hogepodge: good feature for product(cloud) page | 19:57 |
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| hogepodge | mmm, no. Just something to get the basics for non-admin single account testing | 19:58 |
| hogepodge | help with defcore tempest config | 19:58 |
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| Rockyg | hogepodge, do you use the clouds.yaml file at all? | 19:59 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: I will add the tempest conf topic for next week ... since we are about out of time | 19:59 |
| Rockyg | Some devvs/infra think that would be a good file to have sent for cloud config info... | 20:00 |
| catherineD | need to end the meeting .. more discussion next week | 20:00 |
| catherineD | thx everyone .. | 20:00 |
| catherineD | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 14 20:00:37 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| andrey-mp | hogepodge: but why RefStack site needs so separate feature | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-06-14-19.00.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-06-14-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-06-14-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
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