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| sgordon | #startmeeting telcowg | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 14:00:58 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telcowg' | 14:01 |
| sgordon | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
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| sgordon | #topic roll call | 14:01 |
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| sgordon | o/ | 14:01 |
| cloudon | hi | 14:01 |
| sgordon | hiya | 14:01 |
| sgordon | anyone else today? | 14:01 |
| sgordon | juggling a few things but i think this will be a quick one | 14:01 |
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| sgordon | i have at least 2 AIs for each of us ;) | 14:01 |
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| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/290462 | 14:03 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290459/ | 14:03 |
| sgordon | so | 14:03 |
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| sgordon | these merged to product-wg | 14:03 |
| sgordon | i now need to submit the minor edit with template updates etc | 14:03 |
| sgordon | (as requested in the comments) | 14:03 |
| sgordon | #action sgordon to update 290462, 290459 | 14:03 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/290347 | 14:04 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/290060 | 14:04 |
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| sgordon | and cloudon if i could ask you to the same for those two? | 14:04 |
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| cloudon | Not sure I understand what changes are needed? | 14:04 |
| cloudon | Don;t see anything in the comments | 14:04 |
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| sgordon | cloudon, hmm weird | 14:06 |
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| sgordon | cloudon, on mine "Please submit another minor change to this story after it is moved via this change so that it can be reviewed." | 14:06 |
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| sgordon | cloudon, that is why i believe i need to resubmit them | 14:06 |
| cloudon | Ah - so they want a change to trigger a re-review? | 14:06 |
| sgordon | (i dont necessarily agree with this workflow but it is what they are using) | 14:07 |
| sgordon | yeah | 14:07 |
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| sgordon | i think because you didnt really get a diff for a directory move? | 14:07 |
| sgordon | not sure | 14:07 |
| cloudon | Did you resubmit or move? | 14:07 |
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| cloudon | I resubmitted, I think | 14:07 |
| sgordon | i moved | 14:07 |
| sgordon | ah | 14:07 |
| sgordon | that will do it | 14:07 |
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| sgordon | ok | 14:07 |
| sgordon | no AI for you | 14:07 |
| sgordon | well done! | 14:07 |
| cloudon | Moving is beyond my git skills | 14:07 |
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| sgordon | making me look bad but i see they also merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275712/ | 14:08 |
| sgordon | :) | 14:08 |
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| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| jschwarz_ | hello :) | 15:00 |
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| Swami | hi | 15:00 |
| haleyb | wait, someone other than swami oleg and myself are here? :) | 15:00 |
| Swami | jschwarz_: is here to | 15:01 |
| jschwarz_ | indeed | 15:01 |
| haleyb | #startmeeting neutron_dvr | 15:01 |
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| openstack | haleyb: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 15:01 |
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| * haleyb was joking | 15:01 | |
| Swami | who started it | 15:02 |
| haleyb | sgordon: somehow your #endmeeting didn't work, can you fix it ? | 15:02 |
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| sgordon | mm | 15:02 |
| sgordon | #endmeeting | 15:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 15:02:19 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2016/telcowg.2016-03-23-14.00.html | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2016/telcowg.2016-03-23-14.00.txt | 15:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2016/telcowg.2016-03-23-14.00.log.html | 15:02 |
| sgordon | sorry | 15:02 |
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| haleyb | thanks, np | 15:02 |
| sgordon | i did issue it earlier but didnt notice the bot ignored it... | 15:02 |
| haleyb | maybe the bot had died | 15:02 |
| haleyb | #startmeeting neutron_dvr | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 15:02:58 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
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| haleyb | #chair Swami | 15:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami haleyb | 15:03 |
| haleyb | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
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| haleyb | Only thing I had was that RC1 is cut, RC2 probable from what I've seen | 15:03 |
| haleyb | Did we have anything we need to target at RC2 ? | 15:04 |
| jschwarz_ | yes | 15:04 |
| jschwarz_ | one sec | 15:04 |
| Swami | I just saw a bug that jschwarz_ has filed | 15:04 |
| jschwarz_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560945 | 15:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560945 in neutron "Unable to create DVR+HA routers" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to John Schwarz (jschwarz) | 15:04 |
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| Swami | also probably if the fixed ip patch gets into good shape that would be a good candidate . | 15:05 |
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| jschwarz_ | I'm looking for armax to get his attention to see if this is an RC blocker | 15:05 |
| haleyb | being pedantic lets jump to bugs | 15:05 |
| haleyb | #topic Bugs | 15:05 |
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| jschwarz_ | I have a patch for this but it was just something in cooked up in 2 seconds, so reviews will be very helpful | 15:05 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:05 |
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| Swami | This week we have seen just this one bug that jschwarz_ posted. | 15:06 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296394/ | 15:06 |
| armax | jschwarz_: this looks like an rc candidate | 15:06 |
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| haleyb | we can talk about jschwarz_ first | 15:06 |
| jschwarz_ | :) | 15:06 |
| haleyb | that was the review, right? | 15:06 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes | 15:06 |
| armax | jschwarz_: please add a test, this someone crept in as a demonstration of the fact that perhaps we don’t have stellar covereage | 15:07 |
| armax | coverage | 15:07 |
| armax | I was also looking for documentation in this area | 15:07 |
| haleyb | being nitpicky, can we just put a better description in the commit message too? | 15:07 |
| armax | and I have seen none so far | 15:07 |
| jschwarz_ | armax, will do. I'll be in touch with the people once I do | 15:07 |
| Swami | armax: documentation is on its way, adolfo is working on it, he might post a patch | 15:07 |
| armax | might? | 15:07 |
| armax | oh boy | 15:07 |
| jschwarz_ | haleyb, yes | 15:08 |
| armax | jschwarz_: btw time is running out | 15:08 |
| haleyb | s/might/will | 15:08 |
| jschwarz_ | armax, when do we want the RC to be cut? | 15:08 |
| armax | I think we had today at latest | 15:08 |
| Swami | armax: yes he will post a patch. | 15:08 |
| jschwarz_ | armax, it's at the top of my list, then | 15:08 |
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| Swami | armax: will make sure that gets into the review queue today. | 15:08 |
| armax | I need to touch base with sc68cal too if he wants https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295917/ in | 15:08 |
| armax | but that’s a separate topic | 15:08 |
| armax | jschwarz_: thanks for testing this | 15:09 |
| jschwarz_ | welcome | 15:09 |
| armax | btw jschwarz_ you sure that this happens on rc1 too? | 15:09 |
| jschwarz_ | armax, I tested on upstream master | 15:09 |
| jschwarz_ | I can make sure | 15:09 |
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| armax | I assume the two not to be radically different, but it’d be nice to see where the regression came from or if anyone can confirm why this is happening | 15:10 |
| jschwarz_ | once I'll have the next revision I'll bisect to see | 15:10 |
| jschwarz_ | it was working fine a few months back when we first introduced the DVRHA routers | 15:10 |
| Swami | was it introduced recently then | 15:11 |
| armax | jschwarz_: that would be awesome | 15:11 |
| jschwarz | I'll start working on this now then and be in touch once I have results | 15:11 |
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| Swami | jschwarz: thanks | 15:12 |
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| Swami | This the only new bug we had this week. | 15:12 |
| Swami | The next one is the #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1462154 | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1462154 in neutron "With DVR Pings to floating IPs replied with fixed-ips if VMs are on the same network" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:13 |
| haleyb | jschwarz: thanks for fixing, ping when you have a new review out | 15:13 |
| Swami | This one has a patch from Xiao | 15:13 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285982/ | 15:13 |
| Swami | haleyb: I think you have already reviewed it. | 15:13 |
| Swami | I did test this patch and it seems to work. | 15:14 |
| haleyb | Swami: yes, that one loop didn't look right, although it probably works just fine since there is a port there if a FIP is present | 15:15 |
| haleyb | but a slight refactor would make it more solid | 15:15 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes I agree with you comment. | 15:16 |
| Swami | haleyb: makes sense | 15:16 |
| haleyb | is Xiao around? | 15:16 |
| Swami | haleyb: I don't think he is | 15:16 |
| haleyb | Swami: if you're fine with my change in the comment i'll update since it's been 19 hours with no movement | 15:17 |
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| Swami | haleyb: I think I am ok with your comment, just push in your version, I can test it and then we can push it. | 15:18 |
| haleyb | @action haleyb to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285982/ based on his comments | 15:18 |
| haleyb | doh | 15:18 |
| haleyb | #action haleyb to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285982/ based on his comments | 15:18 |
| haleyb | Swami: so what about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246855/ ? that's also linked to that bug | 15:19 |
| Swami | haleyb: no that is not in a good shape and is not required anymore if this goes in. | 15:20 |
| haleyb | ah, i see carl_baldwin 's comment "This will not merge!" so will -1 workflow it | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | What'd I do? | 15:20 |
| haleyb | carl_baldwin: nothing, i just noticed your comment in a review | 15:21 |
| haleyb | "This will not merge!" :) | 15:21 |
| haleyb | two competing patches to fix bug 1462154 | 15:22 |
| openstack | bug 1462154 in neutron "With DVR Pings to floating IPs replied with fixed-ips if VMs are on the same network" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462154 - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:22 |
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| carl_baldwin | haleyb: Right, but the depends-on was removed. | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | haleyb: It was the depends-on that I said would never merge. | 15:23 |
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| haleyb | doh again | 15:23 |
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| Swami | I dont' any other new bugs to discuss. | 15:24 |
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| haleyb | anyone else have any bugs? | 15:25 |
| haleyb | #topic Gate Failures | 15:26 |
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| Swami | I do see that the multinode jobs failing rate is high | 15:26 |
| haleyb | https://goo.gl/L1WODG is showing the multinode job failure at 40-50% | 15:26 |
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| haleyb | This spiked starting 3/21 | 15:27 |
| Swami | I did see there were bunch of failures with respect to "volume_boot_pattern" yesterday. | 15:27 |
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| haleyb | Is that a nova or cinder thing? | 15:29 |
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| Swami | I am not sure | 15:29 |
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| haleyb | I will look through some recent jobs and look for failures in the logs, but anyone else that wants to help is welcome | 15:30 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:31 |
| Swami | haleyb: there might be more failures, but this is the one I noticed were it had 800 to 900 failures | 15:31 |
| haleyb | obviously the plan is to get these jobs voting again, but they haven't been stable for more than a week | 15:31 |
| Swami | haleyb: Yes, that was our plan. | 15:32 |
| haleyb | Swami: logstash? maybe i'll start there | 15:32 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes | 15:32 |
| Swami | the numbers that i provided was from logstash | 15:32 |
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| haleyb | #topic Open Discussion | 15:34 |
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| haleyb | if there are no other issues i'll give people 25 minutes back | 15:34 |
| Swami | haleyb: I think we don't have any other topics to discuss at this time. | 15:35 |
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| haleyb | ok, let's try and get that DVR+HA fix and the SNAT fix in | 15:36 |
| Swami | haleyb: sure | 15:36 |
| haleyb | thanks for coming everyone | 15:36 |
| Swami | also I will make sure we have the HA docs up | 15:36 |
| haleyb | #endmeeting | 15:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 15:36:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-03-23-15.02.html | 15:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-03-23-15.02.txt | 15:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-03-23-15.02.log.html | 15:36 |
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| Sukhdev | Folks - time for ML2 meeting | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 16:01:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| rkukura | hi | 16:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_March_23.2C_2016 | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | Today's agenda is very brief | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | Hopefully we will finish early today | 16:02 |
| yamahata | hello | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | Anybody wants to make any announcement? | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | Mitaka is almost out and Newton is on its way | 16:03 |
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| yamamoto_ | hi | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Austin Summit Design summit Ideas | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-summit-ideas | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | Have a look at the etherpad for design ideas | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | Please add ML2 related topics | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : Do we want to add anything ML2 specific topic for discussion - perhaps we should discuss | 16:06 |
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| rkukura | Is there interest in tackling enforcement of extension semantics? | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | I’ve been thinking about adding that | 16:07 |
| rkukura | And also possibly addiing support for MDs and EDs for all resources that are built into the core, including addres scopes, subnet pools, SGs, etc. | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | hmm... interesting | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev | makes sense to me - what do others think? | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura : I am thinking another one - on the visibility of the dynamic segments created for HPB | 16:11 |
| rkukura | I’m also wondering if some general discussion on the future of ML2 would be useful. The routed networks efforts is going to be making signficant changes, and things like segments that previously were completely internal to ML2 are getting more exposed in APIs and semantics, and also some of this seems to be moving from ML2 to core. | 16:11 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: I agree we should make them visibile, at least to admins | 16:11 |
| rkukura | Do we need a discussion at summit on that? Do we have a bug report? | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | good question - we can address it either way - | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura : +1 on the general discussion on ML2 | 16:13 |
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| rkukura | Maybe some general discussion on multi-segments would be helpful, covering what routed networks is trying to do with them, and exposing dynamic segments | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | correct - that is what I have in my mind | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | HPB presently talks about overlay networks - now, it is being addressed for routed networks - | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | so, it makes sense to discuss this | 16:14 |
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| rkukura | As part of that, I’d also like see if we want to reincarnate the old patches on making the network segment data model extensible (things other than phyiscal_network+segmentation_id) | 16:15 |
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| Sukhdev | yes - I like that | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | added it | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev | cool - thanks - I was getting ready to assign you action item - you beat me to it :-):-) | 16:18 |
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| Sukhdev | Anything else on this? | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Port Binding discussion related to migration | 16:20 |
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| Sukhdev | scheuran : are you here? | 16:20 |
| scheuran | Sukhdev, yup | 16:20 |
| scheuran | I'm currenlty working on a prototype | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | stage is yours | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | how is your finding? | 16:20 |
| scheuran | I have moved the update binding:host_id into pre_live migration | 16:21 |
| scheuran | it seems to work in my environment | 16:21 |
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| scheuran | I was able to migrate from a lb node to an ovs node | 16:21 |
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| scheuran | so technically this would be what I need | 16:21 |
| rkukura | scheuran: That would be ideal if its all that immediately needed | 16:22 |
| scheuran | but I think I will reach out via the mailing list to get more input about potential issues.. | 16:22 |
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| Sukhdev | scheuran : I hope this does not break the main functionality | 16:22 |
| scheuran | the logic of updating the xml seems to be very complex - I'm still working on it to cover all cases... | 16:23 |
| rkukura | Do we think maintaining old and new bindings simultaneously (aka DVR distributed binding) will ever be needed? | 16:23 |
| scheuran | Sukhdev, I haven't found something... | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev | good | 16:24 |
| scheuran | but I did not yet care about failure scenarios... | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | make sure have arosen review your patches - he is expert in that area | 16:24 |
| scheuran | I'll do - I'll start with a mailing list reach out.. | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev | sounds like a good plan | 16:25 |
| scheuran | nothing else on this topic from my side | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | anything else on this? | 16:26 |
| scheuran | :) | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | typing fast/slow :-) | 16:27 |
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| Sukhdev | I kept the agenda light today - | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:27 |
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| Sukhdev | Anybody want to discuss anything general ML2 related | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | or we can tell each other some stories :-) | 16:28 |
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| Sukhdev | Ok - I assume silence means no body has any thing to discuss | 16:30 |
| rkukura | I’m on the west coast this week, so its early | 16:30 |
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| Sukhdev | ah ha rkukura is rubbing his eyes :-) | 16:31 |
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| rkukura | and burning my tongue on hotel coffee | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | :-) | 16:31 |
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| Sukhdev | good thing the time is changed otherwise, I usually run this meeting from my bed :-) | 16:32 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura : If you are in town, perhaps get together for a beer one of these evenings? | 16:33 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: possibly tonight or tomorrow | 16:33 |
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| Sukhdev | sounds good - check your calender and ping me off-line | 16:33 |
| rkukura | ok | 16:34 |
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| Sukhdev | OK - folks lets call it off before rkukura and I get into the brands of beers to try :-):-) | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | thanks for attending | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 16:34 |
| rkukura | thanks Sukhdev! | 16:34 |
| scheuran | thank you! | 16:34 |
| scheuran | bye | 16:34 |
| rkukura | bye | 16:34 |
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| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 16:34:54 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-03-23-16.01.html | 16:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-03-23-16.01.txt | 16:34 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-03-23-16.01.log.html | 16:35 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 16:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 16:59:34 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 16:59 |
| mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 16:59 |
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| mugsie | ping Kiall timsim federico3 rsyed | 17:00 |
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| rsyed | o/ (but might not be responsive, in another meeting currently) | 17:00 |
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| federico3 | o/` | 17:01 |
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| mugsie | #topic Announcements | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | So, 2 releases in the last week. | 17:03 |
| mugsie | mitaka + new liberty | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | any changes that have to go to mitaka now have to be submitted to master, then back ported to stable/mitaka | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | #topic Action Items | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | federico3: to baclport 2 changes | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | that was done | 17:04 |
| federico3 | ep | 17:04 |
| mugsie | mugsie to get bug triage ready | 17:04 |
| federico3 | *yep, CRs are out | 17:04 |
| mugsie | well, that is the rest of the meeting :) | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | #topic Bug Triage | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | we should wait a few more mins for people to file in | 17:04 |
| mugsie | timsim: Kiall pglass elarson - around? | 17:05 |
| pglass | o/ | 17:05 |
| pglass | we're occupied by a meeting that's about to end | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | ah -k | 17:05 |
| mugsie | should we wait for a few mins then> | 17:06 |
| mugsie | ?* | 17:06 |
| pglass | you should probably get started. it's only "about" to end | 17:06 |
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| mugsie | well, there is only 2 of us right now, so we should take 5 anyway | 17:06 |
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| mugsie | pglass: is it a jmcbride meeting? | 17:07 |
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| timsim | o/ | 17:09 |
| timsim | It is. | 17:09 |
| mugsie | so, see you next year? | 17:09 |
| mugsie | :P | 17:09 |
| venkat_ | Hi timsim, mugsie.. I didn | 17:09 |
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| mugsie | #link http://bit.ly/1VFaOB8 | 17:10 |
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| mugsie | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=datecreated&search=Search&field.status:list=NEW&field.status:list=CONFIRMED&field.status:list=TRIAGED&field.status:list=INPROGRESS&field.status:list=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status:list=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_c | 17:10 |
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| mugsie | (they are both the same link | 17:10 |
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| mugsie | I just wanted one we could actually click, and one for the logs) | 17:11 |
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| timsim | Looks like elarson is at home, and we have no Kiall. | 17:12 |
| venkat_ | I didn't see any documentation on Notification Events in Designate.. I created a blueprint and will work on that. Is that fine ? | 17:13 |
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| mugsie | venkat_: yeap, no problem at all | 17:13 |
| mugsie | ok then | 17:13 |
| timsim | I've got another meeting that's happening now that I need to go to. Can we postpone mugsie? Or pop an etherpad for all these and we can look at them a bit later? | 17:13 |
| mugsie | we can post pone till next week | 17:13 |
| venkat_ | Thanks mugsie | 17:13 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Dicussion | 17:14 |
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| timsim | <3 mugsie | 17:14 |
| Kiall | I'm just finishing call etc too, agree to postpone ;) | 17:14 |
| mugsie | any off agenda items? | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | or shall we call it for today? | 17:14 |
| Kiall | 1 - rally failures in gate | 17:14 |
| mugsie | yeah. | 17:14 |
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| Kiall | 60-80% fail rate for create domain, not sure when it started, but eyes would be good | 17:14 |
| timsim | I have a hard time believing things are actually that slow. | 17:14 |
| mugsie | i saw you post this mornign - havent ahd a chance to dig into it | 17:14 |
| timsim | or broken. | 17:14 |
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| Kiall | sorry, 60-80% pass rate rather than fail rate ;) | 17:15 |
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| Kiall | Anyway, some eyes on the results and logs should turn out something. | 17:15 |
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| mugsie | yeah. | 17:16 |
| venkat_ | FYI: even I saw gate failure due to /opt/stack dir permission issues.. I raised 3 issues against gate. | 17:16 |
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| * mugsie wishes there was a way of getting RMQ stats | 17:16 | |
| mugsie | venkat_: cool - do you have any links/ | 17:16 |
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| mugsie | ?* | 17:16 |
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| elarson | o/ | 17:17 |
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| venkat_ | o/ | 17:17 |
| mugsie | elarson: too late :P | 17:17 |
| venkat_ | links which I raised bugs ? | 17:17 |
| elarson | dangit! | 17:17 |
| elarson | had to zip home before the meeting | 17:17 |
| mugsie | we are going to postpone the triage till next week | 17:17 |
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| mugsie | np | 17:18 |
| mugsie | there is a few people out so it is OK | 17:18 |
| elarson | aho k | 17:18 |
| Kiall | seems like everyone had other things today :D | 17:18 |
| elarson | lots'o'meetings today | 17:18 |
| mugsie | ++ | 17:18 |
| mugsie | ok then | 17:19 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:19 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 17:19:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-03-23-16.59.html | 17:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-03-23-16.59.txt | 17:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-03-23-16.59.log.html | 17:19 |
| Kiall | lol - abrupt. | 17:19 |
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| mugsie | everyone enjoy their other meetings today | 17:19 |
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| cp16net | #startmeeting trove | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 18:02:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cp16net. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:02 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 18:02 |
| amrith | hello cp16net | 18:02 |
| tosky | hi | 18:02 |
| amrith | hello flaper87 | 18:02 |
| cp16net | howdy | 18:02 |
| vkmc | o/ | 18:02 |
| flaper87 | amrith: hey there :D | 18:02 |
| vkmc | hi hi | 18:02 |
| cp16net | i almost missed it | 18:02 |
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| cp16net | i got distracted | 18:02 |
| twm2016 | o/ | 18:02 |
| cp16net | doing a rebase | 18:03 |
| cp16net | anyways hope everyone is have a good day | 18:03 |
| * twm2016 is listening | 18:03 | |
| cp16net | lets get this party started | 18:03 |
| cp16net | #topic last week action items | 18:03 |
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| cp16net | #info [amrith] get more information about creating and distributing a trove wide dashboard | 18:03 |
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| amrith | so I sent an email to the ML | 18:03 |
| amrith | and I have a bunch of responses. | 18:04 |
| amrith | there are a couple of projects ongoing in this area. | 18:04 |
| amrith | this does not relate to the item you put on later; 292451 | 18:04 |
| cp16net | k | 18:04 |
| amrith | these are in effect semi-personal dashboards | 18:04 |
| amrith | I'm looking for a formal dashboard for the project | 18:04 |
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| amrith | and one that will help track us to a/the release milestone(s) | 18:04 |
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| amrith | I have some information | 18:05 |
| amrith | I will mail to the ML [trove] | 18:05 |
| cp16net | alright sounds like there is progress being made on that action tiem | 18:05 |
| amrith | or you can follow the earlier discussions | 18:05 |
| cp16net | should we follow up next week on more info? | 18:05 |
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| amrith | see thread http://openstack.markmail.org/thread/qh7u3sxmtpwkdzas | 18:05 |
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| flaper87 | I tend to disagree on gerrit dashboards being smi-personal as there are ways to make them very useful for a project but I do agree they are not the prettiest ones and they lack of some useful functionality (like labels/hashtags) | 18:05 |
| amrith | at this point, I'd say no. | 18:05 |
| amrith | I'll bring it back when there is more information | 18:05 |
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| * flaper87 is all for something that represents the needs of the project better | 18:06 | |
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| cp16net | amrith: ok | 18:06 |
| flaper87 | amrith: good stuff, btw! I had no idea that Swift had that dashboard and it does sound like something we could use elsewhere | 18:06 |
| cp16net | flaper87: yeah its usful when everyone can have a simliar view | 18:06 |
| cp16net | so everyone knows what others are looking at | 18:07 |
| cp16net | ok so next item | 18:07 |
| cp16net | #info [amrith] contact Victor Stinner re: python3 session at summit [DONE] | 18:07 |
| flaper87 | I started using it heavily in Glance in Mitaka and it helped. I can't tell everyone was using it but a good number of people were | 18:07 |
| cp16net | looks like that was addressed | 18:07 |
| * flaper87 stfu | 18:07 | |
| amrith | cp16net, with the dashboard as proposed, it is useful for individuals to see what they have to do ... aka, semi-personal. Not something that is useful to administer deliverables for a project, which is what I'm after. | 18:07 |
| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:07 |
| vgnbkr_ | o/ | 18:07 |
| amrith | the other action items were done | 18:08 |
| amrith | including pmackinn (who's missing today) | 18:08 |
| cp16net | #info [amrith] Add new projects discussion topic for summit agenda. [DONE] | 18:08 |
| cp16net | #info [pmackinn] I've tagged you on some topics based on mid-cycle, please confirm [DONE, during the meeting] | 18:08 |
| cp16net | #info [amrith] get leaders for all sessions that we want to actually conduct ;) [ONGOING] | 18:08 |
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| amrith | On the py3 thing | 18:09 |
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| amrith | I have an update | 18:09 |
| amrith | Victor won't be at summit | 18:09 |
| amrith | he'll chat with us before summit | 18:09 |
| amrith | I've removed -1s and -2s on all py3 reviews | 18:09 |
| cp16net | sounds good we should move forward on those now | 18:09 |
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| amrith | In email, "I propose to discuss Python 3 before the summit. For example, prepare a concrete plan to port Trove to Python 3, list technical issues like MySQL-Python, etc." | 18:10 |
| amrith | I will keep team posted. | 18:10 |
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| cp16net | word | 18:10 |
| cp16net | alright thanks for the updates amrith on the action items | 18:10 |
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| cp16net | #topic Trove pulse update | 18:11 |
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| amrith | I have an update | 18:11 |
| cp16net | #link http://bit.ly/1VQyg00 | 18:11 |
| cp16net | i passed on some info to amrith to be able to update this | 18:11 |
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| amrith | yup, thanks cp16net | 18:11 |
| cp16net | if others are curious on this i made a small blog article so that you can see how its generated as well. | 18:12 |
| cp16net | #link http://yunatech.com/openstack-trove-review-stats.html | 18:12 |
| amrith | it took a couple of seconds but ... for the benefit of the rest of the folks here, I'd point you to the wonderful blog post on the subject at http://yunatech.com/openstack-trove-review-stats.html | 18:12 |
| amrith | ah, you beat me to it ;) | 18:12 |
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| cp16net | :-P | 18:12 |
| pmackinn | o/ | 18:12 |
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| cp16net | i have a few other posts related to trove in there | 18:13 |
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| cp16net | mostly debugging stuff | 18:13 |
| amrith | An update ... I'm going to run through and scrub open reviews and get rid of oldy moldy ones | 18:13 |
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| cp16net | yeah i've started that as well | 18:13 |
| amrith | the open patches number (third graph) is going up | 18:13 |
| amrith | thanks cp16net | 18:13 |
| amrith | I saw that | 18:13 |
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| amrith | If you have a patch set that you intend to resume work on, please put an update in it to that effect so we don't go abandon it under you ... | 18:14 |
| cp16net | if any of the abandoned patches looks like something you would like to pick up feel free | 18:14 |
| amrith | #action [all] If you have a patch set that you intend to resume work on, please put an update in it to that effect so we don't go abandon it under you ... | 18:14 |
| amrith | #action [all] if any of the abandoned patches looks like something you would like to pick up feel free | 18:14 |
| cp16net | making sure you add that action? | 18:14 |
| cp16net | :-P | 18:14 |
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| cp16net | ok anything else on the pulse update? | 18:15 |
| amrith | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/is:watched+is:abandoned+%28project:openstack/trove%20OR%20project:openstack/trove-integration%20OR%20project:openstack/trove-dashboard%20OR%20project:openstack/python-troveclient%29 | 18:15 |
| amrith | #link http://bit.ly/22whQNM | 18:16 |
| amrith | that's list of recently abandoned patches | 18:16 |
| cp16net | yeah nice | 18:16 |
| cp16net | i'm sure some of the patches are good ideas but due to no activity we have purged them | 18:17 |
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| cp16net | anyone can feel free to pick up something | 18:17 |
| cp16net | from that list | 18:17 |
| flaper87 | ++ | 18:17 |
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| flaper87 | FWIW, we abandoned many patches in Glance during Mitaka. It turned out to be something good | 18:17 |
| amrith | it is spring, and in spring we do spring cleaning | 18:17 |
| flaper87 | no one got offended and some were picked up | 18:17 |
| cp16net | :-D | 18:18 |
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| cp16net | i feel refreshed | 18:18 |
| cp16net | minus the ~4 hours of sleep i get a night... | 18:18 |
| cp16net | ok moving on... | 18:18 |
| flaper87 | yeah, a long (stalled) review list has a way worse effect than some patches being abandoned | 18:18 |
| cp16net | #topic Announcements | 18:18 |
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| amrith | I have announcement re: mitaka | 18:19 |
| cp16net | #link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html | 18:19 |
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| cp16net | go ahead amrith | 18:19 |
| amrith | we will do an RC2 for trove-dashboard for strings | 18:19 |
| amrith | only one change | 18:19 |
| amrith | then we'll be done with Mitaka | 18:19 |
| amrith | on to Newton! | 18:19 |
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| flaper87 | I think StringFreeze was last week. Is this a string exception? | 18:19 |
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| amrith | and it is good that (next item on agenda) https://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:amrith+status:open is the empty list. | 18:20 |
| amrith | string freeze was a long time ago | 18:20 |
| amrith | a bug fix required a new sting | 18:20 |
| cp16net | translations | 18:20 |
| amrith | string | 18:20 |
| amrith | and therefore translations were required | 18:20 |
| amrith | and Andreas requested RC2 | 18:20 |
| flaper87 | soft string freeze was a long time ago | 18:20 |
| flaper87 | hard freeze was last week | 18:20 |
| flaper87 | gotcha | 18:20 |
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| amrith | I propose that we don't attempt to backport the test that we disabled in stable/mitaka (the reenable change went into master) | 18:21 |
| cp16net | yeah i dont think that necessary | 18:21 |
| amrith | if anyone wants to know more, we can discuss on #openstack-trove later as it is likely a long conversation. | 18:21 |
| cp16net | #info mitaka is now stable/mitaka branch | 18:22 |
| cp16net | #info master is now netwon | 18:22 |
| cp16net | please triage your bugs accordingly | 18:22 |
| dougshelley66 | cp16net they already changed the name? | 18:22 |
| dougshelley66 | i thought it was newton :) | 18:22 |
| dloi | one last thing on the RC2 for translations | 18:22 |
| cp16net | (sp) | 18:22 |
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| * cp16net has fat fingers apparently | 18:23 | |
| cp16net | Stable branch rules now in effect for stable/mitaka branches on trove, trove-dashboard, and python-troveclient | 18:23 |
| amrith | give the man a break, he's been sleeping 2+ hours a night and looked wide awake last week ... | 18:23 |
| amrith | :) | 18:23 |
| dougshelley66 | netwon is a cooler na e | 18:23 |
| dloi | Akihiro sent out a message on the horizon ML asking if the trove team is ok with the RC2 sched. Can the PTL reply to that? | 18:23 |
| cp16net | amrith: i'm surprised i played it off so well :_p | 18:23 |
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| cp16net | oh i saw that i will do that | 18:24 |
| cp16net | #action cp16net reply to trove-dashboard ML question for RC2 | 18:24 |
| cp16net | Other announcements? | 18:24 |
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| cp16net | alright moving on | 18:25 |
| cp16net | #topic Health check on outstanding blueprints and features for Mitaka | 18:25 |
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| cp16net | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:amrith+status:open | 18:25 |
| cp16net | no patches :) | 18:25 |
| cp16net | either amrith got lazy starring patches or we completed them :) | 18:26 |
| amrith | no, the empty set here is a good thing | 18:26 |
| amrith | :) | 18:26 |
| cp16net | heh great | 18:26 |
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| cp16net | so we managed to clear out the backlog we had for mitaka | 18:26 |
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| cp16net | btw great work everyone all around for making mitaka a success | 18:27 |
| cp16net | we've completed a ton of work! | 18:27 |
| cp16net | its all thanks to you. | 18:27 |
| cp16net | #topic Do we really need these two fixes in stable/liberty | 18:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Do we really need these two fixes in stable/liberty (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:27 | |
| amrith | Do we want these changes backported to stable/liberty? | 18:28 |
| amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262289/ | 18:28 |
| amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262287/ | 18:28 |
| cp16net | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262289/ | 18:28 |
| amrith | In the interst of time, if anyone feels strongly about this, please update the reviews. If I get no answers in 1 day I'll abandon them ... | 18:28 |
| amrith | I believe that these have been discussed at fair length and at this point, I'm not sure there are new points of view that are likely to emerge, but I promised to have the team look at them one more time. | 18:28 |
| amrith | At this point, the changes are on track for abandonment. | 18:28 |
| cp16net | copy paster... :-P | 18:28 |
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| cp16net | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262287/ | 18:28 |
| * amrith mumbles "they call that being prepared" | 18:28 | |
| peterstac | do we really want to spend effort to get those tests running in liberty? | 18:28 |
| tosky | amrith, cp16net: as I wrote on the list, I think that the patch should be merged | 18:28 |
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| tosky | my point is: the code for the tests currently in liberty is not working at all | 18:29 |
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| amrith | #action [all] please review changes [3], [4], and link [5] in agenda and update the reviews | 18:29 |
| tosky | I'd like to discuss here. | 18:29 |
| amrith | tosky, please go ahead. | 18:29 |
| tosky | so what is the best solution: two backports, which are not impacting the stable jobs, but allows to at least work with the tests, or have a set of totally non working code? Shouldn't it be removed then? | 18:30 |
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| tosky | the usefulness of the patches would have been stronger when they were proposed, and some time has passed | 18:31 |
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| flaper87 | From a stable point of view, I think merging those would be easier and perhaps safer rather than removing code (or leaving some not-working code in the branch) | 18:31 |
| tosky | that's why I think it would be "nice" to close the story by merging them | 18:31 |
| tosky | that's all what I had to say | 18:31 |
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| cp16net | from a release stand point i think its test code that is changing | 18:32 |
| cp16net | so my question would be how many people run this test code on a release | 18:32 |
| cp16net | when our tests are not running it yet reliably | 18:32 |
| flaper87 | I don't think there's an easy/quick way to answer that question right now | 18:33 |
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| cp16net | those tests are a work in progress and cutting them out doesnt make sense | 18:33 |
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| tosky | I don't know how many other people; selfishly, I did and it is something that would be useful for me | 18:33 |
| amrith | cp16net, but it is stable/liberty we're talking about. not master. | 18:33 |
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| flaper87 | AFAIU, it's not going to harm the liberty release to merge those patches... but I could be wrong here as I'm not 100% familiar with the code base | 18:33 |
| cp16net | amrith: yeah thats what i undestand | 18:33 |
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| cp16net | flaper87: it wont | 18:34 |
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| amrith | these merges won't destablilize stable/liberty any more | 18:34 |
| cp16net | but the question is how necessary is it to backport those changes | 18:34 |
| amrith | but, as was pointed out in earlier discussions, the issue is this. | 18:34 |
| amrith | this is the start of the slippery slope | 18:34 |
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| amrith | and if we merge these TESTS | 18:34 |
| amrith | they we'll want some more TESTS | 18:35 |
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| amrith | all of which won't destablize stable/liberty | 18:35 |
| amrith | and the stable team, I think, is asking the right policy question | 18:35 |
| amrith | of ... these tests don't pass now | 18:35 |
| amrith | so what do you intend to do? | 18:35 |
| amrith | get them to pass in stable/liberty? | 18:35 |
| flaper87 | the point is that after mitaka final is out, liberty will become a CVE only branch and no tests should be backported unless they fix security (or critical) issues | 18:35 |
| amrith | and if so, how? | 18:35 |
| cp16net | and when we release code it should be to fix a bug in the core code not really for tests | 18:35 |
| flaper87 | I'd use the stable policy to prevent further backports at that point | 18:35 |
| tosky | amrith: who is "they" that will want more tests? | 18:36 |
| amrith | we, the same people who are making the argument to merge these tests. | 18:36 |
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| tosky | I'm not going to request other backports at this point; I would have done it if the reviews have been merged two months ago | 18:36 |
| cp16net | that last statment was ment around stable releases | 18:36 |
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| amrith | so flaper87 you (representing stable) can WF+1 these. I'm not asking you to, I'm asking whether you feel comfortable making the argument for their merging? | 18:37 |
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| cp16net | #agree | 18:37 |
| amrith | do you have what you would need | 18:37 |
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| amrith | tony breeds sends his apologies for not being able to attend this meeting | 18:37 |
| amrith | I think it is a tz issue, he'll read the transcript later. | 18:38 |
| flaper87 | I do, tbh. I didn't feel like it before this convo because I wanted to hear the teams view | 18:38 |
| cp16net | flaper87: great i hope this was enlightening | 18:38 |
| flaper87 | I'm happy to +1 those backports if there are no *strong* arguments against doing so | 18:38 |
| amrith | good, flaper87 I'll look to you then as the stable/maint person to help us get to a resolution. | 18:38 |
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| flaper87 | amrith: ++ | 18:38 |
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| cp16net | i have not strong argement for or against personally | 18:38 |
| flaper87 | I'd also be happy to be Trove's stable liaison if that helps | 18:39 |
| amrith | To the best of my knowledge, there are *NO* arguments against the backport, other than the procedural issue of the fact that these are tests. | 18:39 |
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| flaper87 | (in the future, I mean) :D | 18:39 |
| amrith | Well, you are Stable's Trove liaison | 18:39 |
| amrith | :) | 18:39 |
| cp16net | done :) | 18:39 |
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| amrith | Trove has a stable liaison ... | 18:39 |
| tosky | thanks all | 18:39 |
| cp16net | thanks tosky | 18:39 |
| flaper87 | w00h000 | 18:39 |
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| cp16net | alright we knocked that out | 18:40 |
| amrith | can I say "#agreed flaper87 to WF+1 the patches in question [3] and [4]" | 18:40 |
| flaper87 | you can :D | 18:40 |
| amrith | if yes, cp16net would you do that for posterity | 18:40 |
| cp16net | #agreed flaper87 to WF+1 the patches in question [3] and [4] | 18:41 |
| amrith | thanks folks, thx tosky | 18:41 |
| cp16net | #topic Summit planning | 18:41 |
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| cp16net | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-newton-proposed-sessions | 18:41 |
| amrith | ^^ tonyb ^^ | 18:41 |
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| cp16net | we have a long list of topics for the *netwon* summit | 18:42 |
| amrith | so, are there other projects and topics we want to propose for the summit | 18:42 |
| amrith | we're going to have to accomodate as many as we can | 18:42 |
| amrith | in the sessions we have | 18:42 |
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| cp16net | #info Conference room allocations announced (Trove: 3fb, 6wr, cm:half) | 18:43 |
| amrith | can I get a show of hands on who's likely to be at summit | 18:43 |
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| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:43 |
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| vgnbkr_ | o/ | 18:44 |
| mvandijk_ | i | 18:44 |
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| cp16net | #startvote Will you be at the summit? Yes, No, Maybe | 18:44 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Will you be at the summit? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Maybe. | 18:44 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 18:44 |
| cp16net | There we go | 18:44 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 18:44 |
| amrith | #vote Yes | 18:44 |
| cp16net | #vote Yes | 18:44 |
| flaper87 | #vote Yes | 18:44 |
| tosky | #vote No | 18:44 |
| mvandijk_ | #vote Yes | 18:44 |
| dougshelley66 | #vote Yes | 18:44 |
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| vgnbkr_ | #vote Yes | 18:45 |
| vkmc | #vote Yes | 18:45 |
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| amrith | imandhan, johnma, pmackinn ? | 18:45 |
| imandhan | #vote maybe | 18:45 |
| amrith | peterstac? | 18:45 |
| amrith | tellesnobrega? | 18:45 |
| peterstac | I seem to recall raising my hand last week ... | 18:45 |
| peterstac | #vote Yes | 18:45 |
| flaper87 | amrith: telles will be there | 18:46 |
| flaper87 | not sure where he's right now | 18:46 |
| tellesnobrega | #vote yes | 18:46 |
| amrith | Ok, thanks ... | 18:46 |
| amrith | #endvote | 18:46 |
| flaper87 | there | 18:46 |
| flaper87 | :P | 18:46 |
| cp16net | #endvote | 18:46 |
| openstack | Voted on "Will you be at the summit?" Results are | 18:46 |
| openstack | Maybe (1): imandhan | 18:46 |
| openstack | Yes (9): vkmc, vgnbkr_, tellesnobrega, amrith, peterstac, mvandijk_, cp16net, flaper87, dougshelley66 | 18:46 |
| openstack | No (1): tosky | 18:46 |
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| amrith | thx | 18:46 |
| tosky | :/ | 18:46 |
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| cp16net | great that worked well | 18:46 |
| amrith | I'll update the agenda for summit sessions on the etherpad. | 18:46 |
| dougshelley66 | there are 4 more coming from Tesora | 18:46 |
| amrith | thanks folks | 18:46 |
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| amrith | thx dougshelley66 | 18:47 |
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| cp16net | great love to see everyone | 18:47 |
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| amrith | #movingon | 18:47 |
| cp16net | #topic Using 'reno' for release notes | 18:47 |
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| cp16net | this is an important topic for furture features and bugs | 18:47 |
| amrith | Ok, making release notes at the end of a release is a pain if we have to create them at that time. | 18:48 |
| cp16net | yes it is | 18:48 |
| amrith | so when you commit code/bugs/features, please add a release note too. | 18:48 |
| amrith | it is easy | 18:48 |
| flaper87 | +1 for using reno | 18:48 |
| amrith | reno new <slug> | 18:48 |
| cp16net | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/ | 18:48 |
| flaper87 | super easy, useful and fast | 18:48 |
| amrith | you get a file that you put simple stuff into | 18:48 |
| amrith | as part of your commit | 18:48 |
| cp16net | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/usage.html#creating-new-release-notes | 18:48 |
| amrith | when we cut a release, voila, we have content for release notes | 18:48 |
| flaper87 | I guess reviewers should also keep an eye on this and request for these release notes to be added | 18:48 |
| amrith | So, here's why I raised this here. | 18:49 |
| flaper87 | s/I guess// | 18:49 |
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| amrith | Do we believe that "I think you need a release note is a good review comment." | 18:49 |
| amrith | sorry, do you agree that "I think you need a release note" is a good review comment? | 18:49 |
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| cp16net | yeah i completely agree with that | 18:49 |
| amrith | because I intend to start doing that and I'd encourage all of you to as well. | 18:50 |
| peterstac | Sure it's a good comment, but is it grounds for -1? | 18:50 |
| flaper87 | I do | 18:50 |
| cp16net | i know going back through the list of commits is a HUGE PITA | 18:50 |
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| flaper87 | I think it's fair and it grounds for -1 | 18:50 |
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| amrith | peterstac, I'd like to start with giving the comment and seeing whether a -1 is required later. | 18:50 |
| flaper87 | It's not really an opinion. It's something that is missing in the patch | 18:50 |
| amrith | There are other ways to incent people to do them, like delegating the writing of release notes to those who don't :) | 18:50 |
| amrith | so that's something for all to keep in mind. | 18:51 |
| amrith | if you'd like to see what the release notes look like, how you create them, etc., cp16net has posted links above. | 18:51 |
| cp16net | yes that is something for everyone to keep in mind moving forward | 18:51 |
| amrith | thanks, that's all I had. | 18:51 |
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| cp16net | #topic hello | 19:37 |
| cp16net | #startmeeting trove | 19:37 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:37 |
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| cp16net | #endmeeting | 19:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 19:37:33 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-03-23-19.37.html | 19:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-03-23-19.37.txt | 19:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-03-23-19.37.log.html | 19:37 |
| anteaya | cp16net: the logs from the meeting are here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-03-23-18.02.log.txt | 19:37 |
| cp16net | guess it automatically ended it | 19:37 |
| anteaya | the bot died | 19:37 |
| amrith | thanks anteaya | 19:37 |
| cp16net | yeah i saw that | 19:37 |
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| cp16net | :) | 19:37 |
| anteaya | you don't have to start a meeting to test the bot | 19:38 |
| anteaya | amrith: welcome | 19:38 |
| cp16net | the topic of the chan is still wrong | 19:38 |
| cp16net | i thought that would resolve it | 19:38 |
| cp16net | but oh well | 19:38 |
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| amrith | Unfortunately the meeting wasn't logged properly. If I look at the minutes, they are empty. | 19:38 |
| anteaya | if there was anything important after the bot died that you wanted added, copy the log and post to the mailing list | 19:38 |
| amrith | I will be mailing minutes to the ML | 19:38 |
| cp16net | amrith: thanks | 19:38 |
| anteaya | cp16net: when bots die, the topic doesn't get reset properly | 19:38 |
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| anteaya | a channel op will take care of it | 19:39 |
| cp16net | k | 19:39 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 20:00:36 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| sbalukoff | Howdy folks! | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Hi folks | 20:00 |
| xgerman | p/ | 20:00 |
| ajmiller_ | o/ | 20:00 |
| bana_k | hi | 20:00 |
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| eranra_ | hello | 20:01 |
| dougwig | o/ | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
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| johnsom | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-March/001018.html | 20:01 |
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| johnsom | In case you missed it, the LBaaS v2 horizon panels did a release | 20:01 |
| sbalukoff | Nice! | 20:02 |
| johnsom | So good stuff there | 20:02 |
| TrevorV | o/ | 20:02 |
| minwang2 | o/ | 20:02 |
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| rm_work | o/ | 20:02 |
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| johnsom | Another announcement is dougwig was kind enough to hook us up with a vt-x host for a third party gate. | 20:03 |
| johnsom | Thanks dougwig | 20:03 |
| xgerman | also amax stays PTL | 20:03 |
| Aish | o/ | 20:03 |
| johnsom | Any other announcements? | 20:03 |
| xgerman | all bow to the new/old leader | 20:03 |
| kong | hi | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:03 |
| mhayden | o/ | 20:03 |
| xgerman | he ran un-opposed so remains king | 20:03 |
| Apsu | o/ | 20:03 |
| dougwig | newton is open, so expect a respin of the "kill v1" patch. | 20:03 |
| Apsu | Meet the new boss, same as the old boss | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Yay! | 20:04 |
| xgerman | dougwig: aweosme | 20:04 |
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| johnsom | Ah yes, newton is open, so stuff that didn't make mitaka should be checked | 20:04 |
| minwang2 | nice | 20:04 |
| sbalukoff | What are the RC deadlines for the rest of Mitaka? | 20:04 |
| ptoohill | o/ | 20:05 |
| kong | sbalukoff: this week will be rc-2, i guess | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:05 |
| johnsom | #topic Docu-geddon | 20:05 |
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| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:06 |
| xgerman | sbalukoff #link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html | 20:06 |
| sbalukoff | Lots to do here. | 20:06 |
| dougwig | one more announcement, if you fix any mitaka bugs on master, please remember to backport them to stable. | 20:06 |
| johnsom | So as you may know, docs team nuked a bunch of Octavia docs from the Mitaka release. | 20:06 |
| blogan | ./ | 20:06 |
| blogan | i mean o/ | 20:06 |
| TrevorV | johnsom "nuked"? | 20:06 |
| TrevorV | Like, made them disappeared? | 20:06 |
| johnsom | nuked == deleted | 20:06 |
| TrevorV | Is that because they were improperly formatted...? Was it an accident? | 20:07 |
| johnsom | So, sbalukoff and I have been trying to figure out how to get them back, add new, etc. | 20:07 |
| TrevorV | Sorry, we can side-line, I'll catch up later | 20:07 |
| rm_work | we got caught in a spring cleaning that should maybe have not caught us, but it did :/ | 20:07 |
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| ptoohill | they didnt like the name amphora | 20:08 |
| johnsom | TrevorV The statement I got was "We don't want to migrate format (docbook->rst) for all of this stuff, so we are removing "third party drivers" from the docs" | 20:08 |
| rm_work | so, I was ok with your patch to move them into our repo, i just hadn't had time to actually verify they are CORRECT yet :P | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | And nobody heard about the spring cleaning for several months because when the talked about us on the mailing list, they used a regular expression to mention our project. And by the time we noticed, it was too late to do a roll-back. | 20:08 |
| rm_work | since we should probably correct them while we're adding them back | 20:08 |
| johnsom | Yeah, so, we would like to take a different approach and move our docs into the repos so that we can not only keep an eye on them, but make sure folks update them. | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | Yep! | 20:09 |
| johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bugs?field.tag=docs | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | To this end, I created a bunch of docs tickets last week, and johnsom prioritized them today. | 20:09 |
| TrevorV | So in that note, we ARE sticking to rst format right? | 20:09 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff was kind enough to setup a etherpad to collect thoughts on what we need and then he moved them over to bugs. | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | TrevorV: Yes. | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | Also-- | 20:10 |
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| TrevorV | Alright, cuz that statement johnsom got could also be construed as "make this docbook" but that's good news | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | If you do diagrams, word from the docs team is that binary formats (ie. png) are OK, so long as you include the source file for generating that (eg. if you did it in omnigraffle... include the omnigraffle file as well). | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | At least, that's the convention. | 20:11 |
| sbalukoff | We don't necessarily have to follow it. | 20:11 |
| TrevorV | Awe! I just realized, that means my super sick diagrams disappeared, huh! | 20:11 |
| TrevorV | Cmon man, I liked those... | 20:11 |
| johnsom | Personally, I was put off by the "delete instead of fix", lack of support in us trying to get them back/fix, and the fact that we put effort into those docs. | 20:11 |
| sbalukoff | But given the other choices for diagrams (ie. blockdiagram, graphviz, etc.) it's not a bad convention. :P | 20:11 |
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| blogan | neutron-lbaas is broke, delete it | 20:12 |
| blogan | i like that method | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | TrevorV: if you still have those diagrams around, please add them back in! | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | Only in our own repos now. | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | By "our own" I mean neutron-lbaas and octavia, in the docs/sources subdir. | 20:12 |
| johnsom | Yeah, so I have started by putting the octavia config options into our repo. | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | I am resurrecting that old operators installation guide I started last fall. | 20:13 |
| johnsom | I am also working on diagramming the flows. (automated if I'm lucky) | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | Hoping to actually complete it this time. | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Ooh! Please let us know if you figure out how to automate that. | 20:13 |
| TrevorV | sbalukoff I don't think I have them anymore, since I remember having them in tree already, but I guess that changed? | 20:14 |
| johnsom | I have a semi-working script | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | Just to emphasize: Getting these docs done is kind of a big deal... | 20:14 |
| johnsom | Please take a look at the bugs, grab one, and help us build up some useful docs! | 20:14 |
| johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bugs?field.tag=docs | 20:14 |
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| sbalukoff | Because without them, we're beholden to neutron leadership as to what to do with neutron-lbaas if there aren't docs enough for people to figure out how to use this stuff. | 20:15 |
| mhayden | the lbaasv2 docs in the networking guide merged into mitaka/liberty, fwiw | 20:15 |
| kong | yeah, http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/networking-guide/adv-config-lbaas.html | 20:16 |
| xgerman | wow, faas has better docs then us :-( | 20:16 |
| xgerman | fwaas | 20:16 |
| blogan | :( | 20:16 |
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| johnsom | Along these lines, does anyone know if there is a way to get www.octavia.io to render a proposed patch? | 20:17 |
| kong | lol | 20:17 |
| blogan | johnsom: should just put the reivew # in | 20:17 |
| blogan | the url | 20:17 |
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| sbalukoff | blogan: example? | 20:17 |
| * blogan verifies first | 20:17 | |
| mhayden | xgerman: looks like the red hat docs folks worked on the fwaas docs :) | 20:17 |
| ptoohill | octavia.io/278830 | 20:17 |
| xgerman | mhayden maybe they can do the same for LBaaS? | 20:18 |
| * mhayden sniffles | 20:18 | |
| blogan | ptoohill: got it | 20:18 |
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| blogan | so for johnsom's review | 20:18 |
| blogan | http://octavia.io/294338 | 20:18 |
| mhayden | xgerman: let me know what's missing on the lbaas docs there and i can try to add a bit more | 20:18 |
| johnsom | Review ID not found for Octavia in Gerrit. | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | Sweet! | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | D'oh! | 20:18 |
| blogan | ideally though, octavia should hve a docs job and we can just click on that link | 20:18 |
| johnsom | That would be super awesome for reviews | 20:19 |
| johnsom | Ok, second time it worked! | 20:19 |
| ptoohill | keep in mind, this tool was never worked on after the initial 'we got it doing stuff' so there may be some bugs :) | 20:19 |
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| TrevorV | Yeah, so I guess the reason I'm bringing this up again is it seems as though that list has been relatively ignored (but I could be missing progress on some of those points) | 20:34 |
| johnsom | My key things in newton: Docs, scenario test coverage | 20:34 |
| blogan | a good first step would be to have a spec that lists all the things needed to achieve parity with neutron-lbaas, then after that we can break each one of those up into its own task and get each one done | 20:34 |
| xgerman | I think it warrants some summit discussion | 20:34 |
| blogan | while also maintaining neutron-lbaas | 20:35 |
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| TrevorV | I want a solid answer on when someone/anyone/we should start prioritizing that list and make a real effort towards | 20:35 |
| TrevorV | it | 20:35 |
| sbalukoff | If we want, I can go through my camera to find the picture I took and open bugs for each of the things Octavia lacks in order to become sand-alone. Then we can prioritize them as we see fit. But at least they'll be on the radar. | 20:35 |
| blogan | TrevorV: make a spec and enumerate the items needed to get parity with neutron-lbaas | 20:35 |
| blogan | tahts a godo first step | 20:35 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff That would be great. I think you had an etherpad too. | 20:35 |
| xgerman | I am with blogan - let’s make a spec and get some input from the community | 20:35 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: i think a spec would be better so we can all comment on it | 20:35 |
| xgerman | blogan +1 | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:36 |
| dougwig | since octavia as its own endpoint is effectively a new major api version, should we consider dropping the single object calls at the same time? | 20:36 |
| TrevorV | sbalukoff I can take that on if you can send me that image as well, but if you want to jump on that we can prioritize accordingly as well. | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | I'll create a spec then. | 20:36 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: image would still be useful though | 20:36 |
| blogan | dougwig: dropping? removing them you mean? | 20:36 |
| dougwig | yep. | 20:36 |
| blogan | dougwig: why? | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: I think we need single-object calls if we're going to do updates. | 20:36 |
| xgerman | dogging loves SOAP | 20:36 |
| blogan | dougwig = dogging | 20:36 |
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| dougwig | xgerman: those are fighting words. | 20:37 |
| TrevorV | That's great, I'm really in favor of prioritizing those things above all else so we can start maintaining one code base instead of two. | 20:37 |
| blogan | i've smelled dougwig, he doesn't like SOAP | 20:37 |
| johnsom | I thought it was corba | 20:37 |
| xgerman | he seems to be in favor of PATCH for updates | 20:37 |
| sbalukoff | #action sbalukoff to create spec for adding functionality to Octavia so that it can be stand-alone if people want to use it that way. | 20:37 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: Haha! | 20:37 |
| dougwig | so, neutron-lbaas becomes a direct pass-through as-is to octavia, in the brave new world? all drivers or vm drivers live in octavia? | 20:38 |
| dougwig | because i don't want to maintain both long-term. | 20:38 |
| xgerman | that’s what the spec is for to discuss | 20:38 |
| dougwig | and we have a user base. | 20:38 |
| blogan | dougwig: yes, until one day neutron-lbaas just goes away, but in a graceful non-gtfo way | 20:38 |
| johnsom | dougwig +1 | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Possibly? It will probably be a few cycles at least before that happens, though. | 20:38 |
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| sbalukoff | That's the problem with things that are stable in production: People don't want to move. | 20:39 |
| sbalukoff | And I can't really blame them. | 20:39 |
| blogan | we could still have octavia's api be a part of neutron's, just do an L7 rule to point neutron/v2.0/lbaas to octavia's endpoint | 20:39 |
| sbalukoff | Though I will definitely try. ;) | 20:39 |
| blogan | but that'd be a deployer thing more | 20:39 |
| xgerman | well, it would need to be 1:1 for it to work | 20:39 |
| dougwig | i'd like to stop loading ourselves into the guts of neutron-server | 20:40 |
| xgerman | which it currently is not | 20:40 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 | 20:40 |
| xgerman | dougwig wasn’t neutron lib supposed to fix that? | 20:40 |
| dougwig | xgerman: that stabilizes the entrail entry, but it's still an in-process extension. | 20:40 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: A translation layer would be necessary in any case. It's possible that neutron-lbaas API just becomes an... API driver for Octavia, though. XD | 20:40 |
| sbalukoff | Man, I felt dirty saying that. | 20:40 |
| blogan | yes | 20:41 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: entrails are dirty. | 20:41 |
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| blogan | yes you should | 20:41 |
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| xgerman | well, once we remove the namespace driver how much is left to support? | 20:41 |
| johnsom | We really need to get rid of the dual database situation | 20:41 |
| blogan | anyway all of this can be discussed int he spec, if the spec outlines what needs to be done to get parity with neutron-lbaas and also a rough roadmap of the future of both, that'd be great | 20:41 |
| blogan | johnsom: yes we do | 20:42 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:42 |
| johnsom | blogan +1 | 20:42 |
| dougwig | are the API's 1:1? will we forever supports backwards compat? which db is the source of truth? where do the hw drivers live? | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: We can get rid of 80% of it right away. As is usual with these sorts of things, I would be surprised if the last 20% doesn't hang around for a long while. | 20:42 |
| dougwig | xgerman: ^^ those are a few of the questions. | 20:42 |
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| blogan | spec should have those qeustions and/or answers | 20:42 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:43 |
| sbalukoff | Right. | 20:43 |
| sbalukoff | I'm not volunteering to write that one, eh. ;) | 20:43 |
| xgerman | I just saw you put an action in | 20:43 |
| dougwig | that's fine, i'm happy to discuss there. i, personally, feel pretty strongly that we should achieve these goals in a way that isn't painful for our users. | 20:43 |
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| blogan | dougwig: agree on that | 20:43 |
| xgerman | dougwig +1 and also vendors | 20:43 |
| johnsom | dougwig +1 | 20:44 |
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| dougwig | vendors feeling pain is mangeable; that's a known quantity. | 20:44 |
| sbalukoff | Well... at painless as we can make it for vendors. | 20:44 |
| sbalukoff | Some of those drivers, though.... | 20:44 |
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| xgerman | dougwig the pain comes back to me… so | 20:44 |
| TrevorV | dougwig is "EOL"-ing something painful for users if we provide a migration mechanism? | 20:44 |
| blogan | i think we can make the vendor pain pretty painless, maybe a little pin prick | 20:44 |
| dougwig | TrevorV: even EOL'ing v1 has been painful. | 20:44 |
| sbalukoff | TrevorV: Yep. | 20:44 |
| blogan | v1 is still around | 20:44 |
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| blogan | my goal is to have a v1, v2, and v3 active all at the same time | 20:44 |
| sbalukoff | Sadly. | 20:44 |
| xgerman | well, if we make octavia v2 compatible we don’t need to EOL | 20:45 |
| blogan | i guess that'd be microversioning | 20:45 |
| johnsom | Yes, I can think of a vendor that still only has v1 dirvers | 20:45 |
| johnsom | Well, v1 is done, so game over on that one. Do we need v3? Not sure | 20:45 |
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| dougwig | this might be a good time to get vendor drivers as shim only, too. i'm a vendor, and i don't like spending time maintaining silly things like py3 in other vendor code. | 20:45 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1000 | 20:46 |
| xgerman | so we move them out of tree like the rest of neutron | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | Yep. But in a more friendly way than, say the neutron-lbaas docs were moved out of the openstack manual. XD | 20:47 |
| blogan | moved out to the trash | 20:47 |
| dougwig | i'd be in favor of shims, just not full code. there's an element of discoverability from the shims that i like. | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | Circular filed. | 20:47 |
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| johnsom | On the corner with a sign, "free to good home" | 20:47 |
| blogan | anyway, the spec is probably something i can start on after April 1 | 20:47 |
| blogan | if yall dont mind waiting until then | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Cool. I have no idea how that works, so I'm hoping you can show us. :) | 20:47 |
| blogan | sbalukoff if you could dig up that whiteboard picture | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: That's my plan, eh! | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: I was going to base the spec on that. But if you'd rather fill out the spec, that's fine. | 20:48 |
| blogan | am i able to #action myself? or does it have to be the chair? | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: Oh sweet, are you volunteering to write the spec? | 20:48 |
| xgerman | you can do that yourself | 20:48 |
| dougwig | chair | 20:48 |
| xgerman | yep, he did | 20:48 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: yeah give it to me, this has been my goal all along anyway, i should birth the thing | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | I think you can action yourself. | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: Ok, will do! | 20:49 |
| dougwig | #action go back to remedial chair school | 20:49 |
| johnsom | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-mitaka-midcycle | 20:49 |
| johnsom | this also has a list we came up with at the mid-cycle | 20:49 |
| blogan | #action blogan create spec mapping out octavia and neutron-lbaas tasks to achieve parity and roadmap for the future | 20:49 |
| johnsom | #action blogan Create the spec | 20:50 |
| blogan | oh tahts exactly what i needed johnsom | 20:50 |
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| blogan | sbalukoff: if the whiteboard doesn't have anything different than the etherpad, just add it to the etherpad if you dont mind | 20:50 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:50 |
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| johnsom | It was #6 in the etherpad. Pretty high level. | 20:51 |
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| dougwig | the summit etherpad also had a list. i don't remember if the midcycle was a cut/paste and then changes. | 20:51 |
| johnsom | Ok, any other topics in our nine minutes left? | 20:51 |
| dougwig | the whiteboard list was from the summit etherpad | 20:51 |
| johnsom | I don't think I have that link | 20:52 |
| blogan | i wish etherpads were searchable by title | 20:52 |
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| xgerman | well, there is a new summit ether pad we can add topics for design sessions to | 20:53 |
| xgerman | that octavia standalone might be good topic | 20:53 |
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| johnsom | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-neutron-next-adv-services | 20:53 |
| johnsom | Ok, searchable via google... grin | 20:54 |
| xgerman | and the austin one #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-summit-ideas | 20:54 |
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| sbalukoff | Oh, we should get on that list again. | 20:55 |
| johnsom | Feel free to add something if you have a topic you want to cover in a wider session | 20:56 |
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| johnsom | Ok, anything else? | 20:57 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks folks! | 20:57 |
| blogan | aye, thanks | 20:57 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 20:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 20:57:51 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-03-23-20.00.html | 20:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-03-23-20.00.txt | 20:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-03-23-20.00.log.html | 20:57 |
| TrevorV | o/!! | 20:58 |
| eranra_ | bye | 20:58 |
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| xgerman | o/ | 20:58 |
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