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rkukurahi ML2’ers!16:00
yamamoto_hi16:00
Sukhdev_hello16:00
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Sukhdev_manishg: are you here?16:01
rkukuragood to see everyone!16:01
Sukhdev_shivharis: are you here?16:01
scheuranhi16:01
shivharishi16:02
rkukuralets get going…16:02
rkukura#startmeeting networking_ml216:02
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 30 16:02:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2'16:02
yamahatahello16:02
rkukura#topic Agenda16:03
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Sukhdev_kevinbenton: we are going to need you today in this meeting - to cover ML2 sprint next week16:03
rkukura#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_Sept_30.2C_201516:03
rkukuraWould anyone like to add/remove anything to/from today’s agenda?16:03
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rkukuraSome of these items have been queued up for a while, so I’m glad to see shivharis, scheuran, and others here today for some updates16:05
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rkukuraOK, lets move on16:05
rkukura#topic Announcements16:05
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rkukuraCongrats to armax, our new neutron PTL!16:05
rkukuraHe’s not here, but sometimes lurks in these meetings16:05
shivharisarmax: congrats!16:06
rkukuraAnd many thanks to mestery!16:06
Sukhdev_and a huge thank you to mestery16:06
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rkukuraHopefully everyone (especially those attending) is aware our ML2 pre-cycle sprint is next week at Yahoo!16:06
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rkukuraBecause of that, I’m thinking we should skip next weeks regular ML2 IRC meeting.16:07
rkukuraAny objections to that?16:07
rkukura#action rkukura to update agenda skipping next week’s meeting16:08
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rkukuraAny other annoucements?16:08
* rkukura needs to learn to type16:09
Sukhdev_Liberty-RC1 is out and RC2 in the oven16:09
rkukura#topic ML2 pre-cycle sprint16:09
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rkukura#undo16:09
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rkukuraSukhdev: thanks16:09
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rkukura#topic ML2 pre-cycle sprint16:10
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rkukura#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Neutron_ML2_Mid-Cycle_Sprint16:10
rkukuraThe above link has the most up-to-date info, and any updates will be made there16:11
rkukuraLooks like we are expecting /me, manishg, harlowja, Sukhdev_, kevinbenton, shivharis, and yamahata to attend in person16:12
shivharisrkukura: just curious, what would be the success criteria of the sprint?16:12
rkukuraAre any others planning to attend either in person or remotely?16:12
shivharisrkukura: what are must do's16:12
yamahataYalei and Rui  are planning to attend it remotely16:13
yamahataI'm not sure what time they can attend due to timezone, though.16:13
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rkukurashivharis: My take on that is to come out with a concrete plan for asnyc backend synchronization for ML2 in Mitaka16:13
shivharisrkukura: +216:13
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rkukurayamahata: Lets followup on the remote attendance via email and see if we need to set anything up16:14
yamahatanetworking-odl has several requirement for backend sync.16:14
yamahatarkukura: sure.16:14
shivharisany new doc on async that we should have read thoroughly16:15
rkukuraSo we need to get a clear statement of the agreed requirements, evaluate various design options, and hopefully get some prototype code started16:15
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rkukurashivharis: I’m not aware of anything new, but would encourage everyone attending to refresh their memory on the existing docs and PoC patch linked from the etherpad.16:16
shivharisok16:16
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rkukuraI’d also encourage putting some thought into the requirements and the design options beyond what has already been documents.16:17
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rkukuraAny other questions, comments, concerns, etc., regarding the sprint next week?16:18
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rkukuraFeel free to put thoughts into writing (etherpads, google slides or docs, whatever) or be prepared to whiteboard ideas16:19
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* rkukura looks forward to seeing everyone next week!16:19
rkukuraAnything else on the sprint?16:19
rkukuraif not, …16:19
rkukura#topic Mitaka Design Summit proposals for ML216:20
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rkukura#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-designsummit16:20
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rkukuraLets make sure anything anyone feels should get into ML2 during Mitaka is covered on the list I linked above16:21
rkukuraDoes anyone know when/how armax plans to pair this down to a set of sessions?16:21
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armaxrkukura: I’ll be working on those this week and post notes shortly after16:22
armaxrkukura: bear with me16:22
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rkukuraarmax: Thanks16:22
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rkukuraarmax: I think the main ML2 items are async, drivers+SGs, and modular L2, so please let us know if you are on the fence about including any of these.16:24
rkukuraI meant modular L2 agent16:24
armaxrkukura: ok, as usual the balance to what goes in the summit and doesn’t is always tricky due to shortage of time16:24
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rkukuraarmax: Of course many of the other suggested topics impact ML2 as well.16:25
armaxrkukura: if not all16:25
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armaxone way or another16:25
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rkukuraarmax: Feel free to check in on progress at the sprint next week, and see if these topics (async mainly) will need discussion at the summit16:27
rkukuraAnything else on the summit topics?16:27
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rkukura#topic Driver API for SGs16:28
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armaxrkukura: ok, thanks for the heads-up16:28
rkukurayamamoto_: Do you have any update on this?16:28
yamamoto_no progress or updates, sorry16:29
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rkukuraI’m sure there will be some discussion of this at the sprint next week, so maybe we can followup on that at the next IRC meeting16:30
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rkukura#topic Modular L2 Agent and macvtap16:31
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rkukurascheuran: Do you have an update on this?16:31
scheurannot much16:31
scheuranwe were producing a number of patchsets to figure out which way to go16:31
rkukuraor sc68cal16:31
scheuranbut we still need to sort it out and structure it a bit16:31
scheuranI'll try to meet with sc68cal this week to come to first proposal16:32
rkukuraOK, great16:32
scheuranand figure out which refactorings make sense and which not16:32
rkukurascheuran: Thanks16:33
rkukuraAnything else on this?16:33
scheuranyeah, maybe one question16:33
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rkukurasure16:33
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scheuranwas the modular agent planned as an agent with a single plugin (like neutron)16:34
scheuranor more something like the ml2 plugin where you can plugin multiple drivers in parallel?16:34
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shivharisare you going to support multiple hypervisors at the same time?16:35
rkukurascheuran: Are there use cases for multiple drivers to work together? Or maybe different kinds of drivers for different purposes?16:35
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scheuranshivharis, what do you mean by multiple hypervisors?16:36
scheuranrkukura, not for macvtap and linuxbridge16:36
scheuranbut maybe sriov and linuxbridge or sriov and macvtap16:36
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scheurannot sure if anyone does this, but theoretically it's possible16:37
shivharismaybe i misunderstood the point of multiple driver - never mind16:37
scheuranas sriov ports are requested with a vnic type =! normal, linuxbridge and macvtap port with vnictype normal16:37
rkukuraIt probably makes sense to support multiple drivers, unless that makes things much more difficult16:37
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scheuranrkukura, I think it will make things more complex, but I need to have a look what it means16:38
rkukurascheuran: OK16:38
scheuranok thanks16:38
rkukuraAnything else on this?16:38
scheuranno16:38
rkukura#topic Physical Topology16:39
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rkukurashivharis: Do you have an update?16:39
shivharissure16:39
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shivharisSince prior proposals for toplogy discovery seem to have issues16:40
shivharisI started to leading the push for a fresh start on this, the flaws that i saw in proposals was related to very close dependecy on neutron16:41
shivharisso this new proposal removes that from the equation16:41
shivharisasomya and gkotton have been discussing this and have a proposal in place (and some code)16:42
shivharisI will share the document to the folks prior to the sprint and we can have a go at it16:42
shivharisin short we use a modular approach - with possible driver for16:43
shivharislldp, cdp, bgp and arp16:43
rkukurashivharis: Are there competing proposal at this point or are you, asomya, and gkotton on the same page?16:43
shivharisno this is one proposal from the 3 of us.16:44
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Sukhdev_shivharis: are you presenting this at the summit?16:44
rkukurashivharis: Is it for a service plugin within neutron or a new standalone service?16:44
Sukhdev_shivharis: in design session or regular session?16:44
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shivhariswe have put this on agenda for neutron design session and gary is planning this for nova16:45
shivharisthis is essentially a standalone service16:45
shivharisbut we need to start somewhere and begin to socialize it16:45
shivharisi will discuss this in the sprint as well16:46
Sukhdev_yes, this will be very useful for both nova and neutron16:46
Sukhdev_and Ironic as well16:46
shivharisright Sukhdev, there are many consumers as you described - also add to it heat16:47
shivharisthat is all i have for now, will discuss more in the sprint16:47
rkukurashivharis: thanks!16:47
rkukuraAny quesitons or comments on this?16:48
rkukuraIf not…16:48
Sukhdev_looking forward to the details -16:48
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rkukuraSukhdev_: +116:48
shivharisok16:48
rkukura#topic Open Discussion16:48
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Sukhdev_manishg is here to discuss the logistics for the sprint16:48
Sukhdev_manishg: please go ahead16:49
manishgSukhdev_: sorry missed your ping earlier.16:49
rkukuramanishg: please, go ahead16:49
Sukhdev_kevinbenton: are you here?16:49
manishgThe address etc. are on the etherpad.  Once you show up please call me.  My phone number on etherpad too16:49
manishgor the receptionist will do.16:49
manishgAre there specifics about the venue, etc. that folks have questions about?16:50
shivharisfor the task flow - i still feel as before - we need to get  a state transition diagram to make this design stick16:50
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manishgshivharis: are you planning to attend?16:50
shivharismanishg: you bet16:50
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manishgI think if we go with states, we'll need some state table.16:50
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manishgdepending on the complexity, a diagram may also be needed16:51
rkukuramanishg: Can we assume plenty of whiteboard space?16:51
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manishgrkukura, yes. plenty of white board space16:51
manishgI'll order more (portable ones) today!16:52
manishgjust in case we need more...16:52
Sukhdev_manishg: if we can have some prep work done, it will make the discussions more productive16:52
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manishgSukhdev_ : who are the key folks leading?16:53
manishgI thought asoumya was interested in last summit, is he able to join?16:53
Sukhdev_manishg: I am looking at you and Josh to lead the task flow discussion16:53
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rkukuramanishg: asomya is interested but not able to attend16:53
manishgTaskflow part will be fine I think.  But there are decisions need to be made from ML2 side.16:53
Sukhdev_manishg: Hence, a bit of prep work go long ways16:54
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rkukuraI’ve been encouraging everyone to think about the requirements and the design options16:54
manishgI think a lot of prep work was done and still out there.  Is there any more update on it?16:54
rkukuraAnd to re-read what’s already been written.16:54
manishgI think some good discussions happened.  and options documented.16:54
manishgrkukura: +116:55
Sukhdev_Our goal for the sprint should be to achive concensus on ML2 sync using task flow16:55
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manishgit's been a while.  So I think to make it more productive we should be well aware of previous discussions.16:55
rkukuramanishg, others: Would be good to know who is committed to working on the implementation during Mitaka16:55
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manishgrkukura: I think once we finalize the design, etc. the effort will be clear and folks can commit then.16:56
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manishgas the amount of work may depend on the final decisions.16:56
rkukuramanishg: agreed16:56
Sukhdev_everybody - please read this as well - https://docs.google.com/document/d/17fATwZkJEonH0pIb1-mPD0UB5RKnJzcHYqkBesJhirE/edit#bookmark=id.5axbk82zh7nb16:56
manishgSo I think it would be good to document the main problem, possible solutions and discussion around the selected solutin.16:57
Sukhdev_this articulates the ML2 sync requirements16:57
rkukuraSukhdev_: that doc is linked on the etherpad16:57
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manishgSukhdev_ : thanks.16:57
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rkukuraLets start with a brainstorming a list of the requrement on the whiteboard, and then trying to identity the must-haves, nice-to-haves, etc.16:57
manishgall the attendees should please read this, the patch, and also think about other potential issues.16:58
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manishgSukhdev_ : did you have any other prep work in mind?16:58
manishgI think this will be a good start.16:58
rkukuraWe’ve got 2 minutes left16:58
rkukuraAny other questions regarding the logistics for next week?16:59
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Sukhdev_manishg: essentially a refresher or any diagram what shivharis was elluding to - basically, anything that will help people converge quicky16:59
rkukuramanishg: Please add your phone # to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Neutron_ML2_Mid-Cycle_Sprint if that’s the best way to contact you when we arrive.16:59
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manishgrkukura: done17:00
rkukuraWe are out of time17:00
rkukuraThanks everyone!17:00
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Sukhdev_Thanks everybody17:00
manishgthanks!17:00
rkukura#endmeeting17:00
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Sep 30 17:00:27 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:00
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timsim#startmeeting designate17:02
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 30 17:02:25 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'designate'17:02
timsimHey, who's here?17:02
jmcbrideo/17:02
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james_lijames li17:03
timsim#chairs mugsie17:03
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* timsim doesn't know if that worked17:03
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timsim#topic Annoucements17:03
mugsie#topic Action Items from last week17:03
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mugsienope17:03
timsim#chair mugsie17:03
openstackCurrent chairs: mugsie timsim17:03
mugsiego for it timsim17:03
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timsimaha17:03
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timsimAnyone have any annoucements?17:03
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Kiallo/17:04
mpbnkao/17:04
* elarson holds off his announcment he uses emacs until next week...17:04
timsimSilence means no :P17:04
KiallYep :)17:04
timsim#topic action items from last week17:04
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timsimkiall / mugsie ... actions from 2 weeks back!17:04
mugsiepush from me17:05
KiallStill not yet :( Sorry, been literally mad here17:05
timsimyeah I think those are the bug validations17:05
mugsiethey are17:05
timsim#action Kiall / mugsie to do actions from http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-09-16.59.log.html17:06
mugsiekiall to validate 148793417:06
mugsiemugsie to validate 1491248 and 149134817:06
mugsiemugsie to validate 149303517:06
mugsiekiall to file High+RC1 bugs for1) Fix multiple central + TLD caching issues...(need to file a bug for this) and 2) Fix zone-manager enabled tasks + sharding combination (need to file a bug..)17:06
timsimfederico3 to backport b153f66 / 21cec74 / 1594913 / 8277e96 / eea5c1e17:06
timsimfederico3: about?17:06
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timsimkiall to backport 9c37d55 / 4a68605 / 0c034d1 (if possible) / ad180b417:06
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timsimmugsie to backport 476980e17:06
Kiallhe's probably just off the last call and not on IRC17:06
mugsiemine is done17:06
KiallI totally forgot :(17:07
timsimJust saw him in the other room17:07
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mugsiei think federico3 did ^^17:07
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timsimalright17:08
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federico3timsim: yep, the CRs are out17:08
timsim#action kiall to backport 9c37d55 / 4a68605 / 0c034d1 (if possible) / ad180b417:08
timsimOk. so mugsie and federico3 did those.17:08
mugsie#action cores to review backports17:08
timsimmoving on17:08
timsim#topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring)17:08
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timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/150086717:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1500867 in Designate "Designate installation in Devstack results in Error" [Undecided,New]17:08
mugsiethat looks weird17:09
KiallA quick suggests user error?17:09
mugsieyeah17:09
Kiall(We do this many times a day in CI etc, it certainly works on master..)17:09
timsimLooks like it17:09
mugsieincomplete at the very least - need more info17:09
KiallIncomplete / need ..17:09
Kiallbeat me to it ;')17:09
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timsimYeah, I''ll do that and ask him to give it another go17:10
mugsieOS / how devstack is running / etc17:10
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/150122117:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1501221 in Designate "using TokenEndpoint with the V1 client is broken" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Endre Karlson (endre-karlson)17:10
mugsieH17:10
mugsie(no milestone)17:11
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/150139217:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1501392 in Designate "Not able to add dns name when a new port is attached to existing Instance" [Undecided,New]17:11
timsimThis is the start of some interesting ones that seem to reference incomplete neutron work17:11
mpbnkahi I added this bug17:11
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mugsiempbnka: is this from sink?17:12
mpbnkayes17:12
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mugsieok, we will need the sink handlers you are using.17:12
ram_attI looked into the code with mpbnka17:12
ram_attthis is nova.py17:12
mugsieah17:12
mugsieyeah17:12
ram_attwe have to add another event to this17:13
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ram_attport.update.end17:13
ram_attand handle it17:13
Kiallram_att: ah - makes sense, is that something you guys are going to add?17:13
mugsiecan you update the ticket with details of what you found?17:13
ram_attyes17:13
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mpbnkaok17:13
ram_attyeah sure17:13
mugsieand if you are going to add the code, we can assign it to you17:13
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ram_attI am going to add the code for this17:14
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ram_attplease assign this to me17:14
mugsieram_att: what is your launchpad name?17:14
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timsimCool. ram_att: Would you like similar treatment for the other two bugs filed?17:14
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ram_attyes17:14
ram_attfor detach bug I am still debugging it17:15
ram_attneutron doesn't post port.update events17:15
ram_attit directly goes for delete17:15
ram_attwe probably have to look fro something in nova17:15
timsimCool, I'll mark those as needing more info pending your updates, and we can revisit.17:15
ram_attok17:15
mugsie++17:15
ram_attI'll keep adding the comments as I find something useful on the bugs17:16
timsimMoving on to the client17:16
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/149953917:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1499539 in python-designateclient "No output on certain v2 commands" [Undecided,New]17:16
mugsieH17:16
mugsietriaged17:16
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/149954117:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1499541 in python-designateclient "The v2 zone transfer request create command should not require the target project id" [Undecided,New]17:16
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mugsiesame17:16
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timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/149986717:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1499867 in python-designateclient "Remove the name argument for recordset updates" [Undecided,New]17:17
mugsiesame17:17
mugsie:)17:17
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mugsiepglass is good at finding little annoying things17:17
timsimandd https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/150060417:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1500604 in python-designateclient "Pattern argument is required on updating a blacklist" [Undecided,New]17:17
mugsieas above17:17
KiallSide Bar - I should have mentioned this earlier. Use the "liberty-rc-potential" label on bugs we want to fix in L! https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bugs?field.tag=liberty-rc-potential17:18
timsimdone :)17:18
mugsie:)17:18
timsim#topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring)17:18
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Kiall#link http://paste.openstack.org/show/474896/17:18
KiallSlight twist this time and from now on17:19
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Kiallwe have Kilo and Liberty backports ;)17:19
KiallAnyway - Take a few, nominate anything in need of a backport - including to what releases17:19
Kiall6e45b7c Ensure recordset name checking accounts for child domains17:19
Kiall9c37d55 Ensure blacklists complete in a reasonable time17:19
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Kiall^ both of those to KIlo17:20
mugsieabfc3c0 Merge "Fix #1494799 handle limit=max on v2 and Admin APIs"17:20
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KiallI *think* federico3 already BP'd that... I think17:20
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federico3checking17:20
Kiallthanks17:20
KiallOkay - Any others?17:21
mugsiedont think so17:21
KiallAny takers to BP ^ 2 (or 3)?17:21
federico3(yes it is)17:21
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federico3o/17:22
Kiallmugsie: how about you? I already have a list from last week to do ;)17:22
mugsieK - federico3 it is17:22
mugsie:)17:22
federico36e45b7c, 9c37d55, abfc3c0 to Kilo17:22
timsim#action federico3 one to backport 6e45b7c 9c37d55 abfc3c0 to Kilo17:22
timsimdon't know how "one" snuck in there17:22
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mugsiewhats a federico3 one ?17:22
mugsie:D17:22
Kialllol17:22
Kiallthanks federico317:23
timsim#action mugsie to suck it17:23
timsim#topic assert:follows-standard-deprication17:23
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timsimover to mugsie :)17:23
Kialltimsim: you don't get "power" much, do you? ;)17:23
mugsie#link http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html17:23
timsim:P17:23
mugsiebasically - do we want to sign up as doing this17:23
mugsieand have it recorded17:23
mugsieit is very close to what we do now to be honest17:24
Kiall"It uses an automated test to verify that configuration files are forward-compatible from release to release and that this policy is not accidentally broken (for example, a gating grenade test)."17:24
KiallThat's one we don't, but probably should do..17:24
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mugsieyeah17:24
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KiallAnd, will take us a while to do + get right..17:24
timsimEsp with pool -> db stuff17:25
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mugsieI think if we are bound by ^ it will not allow us to let things fall through the cracks17:25
mugsiewe dont have to decide right now17:25
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mugsieI just wanted it on peoples radar17:25
Kiallmakes sense17:26
mugsieso, if everyone can have a read, we can come back to it in a few weeks17:26
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timsimCool.17:26
mugsieI will send a ML email as well17:26
timsim#action Everyone read/understand http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html17:26
Kiallfolks, I've got to run to another call - will be multitasking the rest of the meet17:26
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timsim#action mugsie to add assert:follows-standard-deprication to a future agenda17:27
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timsim#topic Designate/Neutron Integration Update17:27
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timsimI believe mugsie has this update17:27
mugsieyup17:27
mugsieno patch was pushed last night, with reverse IPs in the correct tenant17:28
mugsienew patch*17:28
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mugsiethe requirements for the Tokyo demo are in place. there is a new patch coming that will add the ablity to turn the FIP stuff on and off17:28
mugsieFIP reverse IPs even17:29
mugsiethat is the update :)17:29
timsimSounds pretty good17:29
timsim#topic Liberty Release17:29
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mugsieeh - Kiall ?17:29
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mugsieOK17:30
mugsiehe is not multitasking :)17:30
mugsie#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule17:30
mugsie#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bugs?field.tag=liberty-rc-potential17:31
mugsieany one know of any other bugs that should be added to that list ?17:31
mugsie....17:32
mugsie?17:32
ram_attplease add 150139217:32
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ram_att1501394  and 150139617:32
mugsieram_att: I am not sure that is not an RC worthy bug17:32
mugsieKiall: ^17:32
ram_attok17:33
mugsieseen as this is still under your PTL ship :)17:33
timsimWe can probably decide RC-worthiness when it's confirmed17:33
mugsieyeah17:33
timsimI don't think there are any others to add to rc-potential right now17:33
mugsieI don't know of any personally17:34
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mugsieI think we are done with Liberty (and that old lame duck PTL :P )17:34
timsimBut we should be testing the RC when we can to see if there's anything else :)17:34
mugsieyeah17:34
timsim#topic Open Discussion17:35
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mugsiecan everyone test the current RC1 build?17:35
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mugsieTokyo - can everyone update the etherpad?17:35
KiallI'm useless at multitasking - still need an answer? ;)17:35
timsim#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/designate-design-summit-tokyo17:35
mugsieKiall: no17:35
mugsie:D17:35
timsimNah we moved on without you Kiall17:35
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KiallGood!17:36
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mugsiecool - I think we should review the list this meeting next week?17:36
mugsieso you have 7 days17:36
mugsie:D17:36
timsimCool :)17:36
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mugsieand talk + workshop - timsim elarson we should sync up17:36
mugsiethats all I have17:37
elarsonindeed!17:37
timsimWe should have some time next week, hopefully :)17:37
mugsiecool17:37
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mugsieI will shoot an email17:37
timsimDoes anyone else have anything they'd like to discuss?17:37
mugsie317:38
mugsie217:38
mugsie117:38
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timsim#endmeeting17:38
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Sep 30 17:38:41 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:38
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timsimbye guise17:38
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ram_attI am new here, how do I update etherpad and what do I update?17:46
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cp16net#startmeeting trove18:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 30 18:00:31 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cp16net. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
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amrith./18:00
cp16nethowdy everyone18:00
amrithhowdy cp16net ...18:00
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amrithjust you and me for now18:00
SlickNikhey — 'sup people!18:01
amrithquick, let's make some decisions18:01
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cp16neti'll give a little time for people to trickle in18:01
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amrithwe should start charging for tardiness18:02
cp16net#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting18:02
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cp16net#topic Trove pulse update18:04
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cp16net#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-pulse-update18:04
cp16netreviews are pretty steady for the last 3 weeks between 70-8018:05
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cp16netany other comments around this?18:06
peterstacI'm still working on the graph - should have something by the end of the meeting ;)18:06
cp16netpeterstac: awesome that leads to the next topic i have18:07
cp16net#Action items18:07
cp16net#topic Action items18:07
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cp16net- cp16net look into troveclient tempest gate failures18:07
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cp16neti got the gate working again for troveclient18:07
peterstacah, cool18:08
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cp16netit wasnt hard but it was similar to the saharaclient issues18:08
cp16netso it was pretty easy to resolve18:08
cp16net- peterstac put together a graph for week over week18:08
cp16netsounds like peterstac may have something to show off by the end of the meeting:-D18:09
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cp16netmoving along...18:09
cp16net#topic Bugs that could be back ported for Liberty18:09
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cp16netso i've identified a few bugs that could be backported to liberty18:10
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cp16net- [trove] Fix promote for Redis datastore18:10
cp16net#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226075/18:11
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cp16netso this is a fix redis18:11
peterstacYeah, I dropped the ball on that one - I should have mentioned it last week when SlickNik asked about potential candidates ...18:11
cp16netis there any concerns around proposing this one to liberty?18:11
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peterstacIt involves promote leaving the slaves in a detached state, because the redis python client doesn't interpret None as none18:12
peterstac(you need to set it to '')18:12
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dougshelley66looks like no concerns18:12
peterstacI think it should go in liberty :D18:12
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cp16netok with overwhelming majority we'll get that one in18:13
cp16net- [trove] Fix publish_exists_event authentication exception18:13
cp16net#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228696/18:13
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cp16neti thought about this one as well after dougshelley66 was working on it18:13
dougshelley66i'm fine with that - no one has posted a review on it18:14
cp16net(i'm still working on testing it)18:14
dougshelley66in the end, it turned out to be a pretty simple fix18:14
amrithlooks good to me18:14
dougshelley66in novaclient - project_id is for the tenant_name18:14
dougshelley66so we shouldn't use that18:14
cp16netyeah this will allow deployers to get the events we send out18:14
cp16netso i think this should be a high priority18:15
peterstaclooks good to me too18:15
edmondkyeah I think it's fine as well18:15
cp16netnext one...18:15
cp16net- [troveclient] Accepting network and availability zone for instances in cluster18:15
cp16net#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184349/18:15
cp16netthis isnt a trove fix but to the troveclient18:15
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SlickNikcp16net: The client release schedule is not tied to the openstack release schedule.18:17
cp16neti believe that we can make a new version of the client to get this out that shouldnt nessearily require a backport to the stable/liberty branch18:17
cp16netSlickNik: right i thought that was the case18:17
SlickNikSo perhaps we just cut a new client release after that bug is fixed.18:17
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cp16netalright so are there any other bugs found that should be added to this list?18:18
SlickNikyup — I don't think we'll need a backport for this.18:18
peterstacSlickNik +118:18
cp16netdougshelley66: i noticed there were a few other ones that you mentioned that maybe related to the notifications.18:19
SlickNikcp16net: we usually do an updated release of translations as well if we are going to cut a new RC>18:19
SlickNikSo we might want to do that.18:19
SlickNikOther than think — that set of bugs looks reasonable.18:19
cp16netSlickNik: ok18:19
dougshelley66cp16net yes there are two other but i don't think we should push back to liberty. One has a workaround18:20
cp16netdougshelley66: ok great18:20
cp16netif there are any other bugs found that affect liberty let me know18:21
cp16netalright next....18:21
cp16net#topic Mitaka Summit Design Sessions18:21
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cp16net#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-trove-summit18:21
cp16netwe have some topic proposed here18:22
cp16netawesome!18:22
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cp16neti'm not sure if there is a deadline to have these published at least for the fishbowl sessions18:23
vkmc:D18:23
cp16neti need to find that out18:23
dougshelley66so on Mitaka summit - who is going?18:23
cp16neto/18:23
dougshelley66o/18:23
amrith./18:24
dougshelley66ah good we need someone to buy beer18:24
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cp16netedmondk: and SlickNik will be there18:25
edmondko/18:25
edmondkwill be there18:25
amrithvipul said he'd be there. he offered to buy beers.18:25
dougshelley66it's about time....18:26
SlickNikcp16net: There is a deadline, but we have another 1-2 weeks I think.18:26
cp16net#action cp16net find out if there is a deadline for fishbowl sessions18:26
SlickNikI'll totally be there.18:26
cp16net:)18:26
cp16netalright excited to see all your faces again18:27
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cp16netmoving along...18:27
cp16net#topic Assert follows standard deprication18:27
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dougshelley66s/deprication/deprecation/18:27
* amrith doesn't understand what that means. 18:28
cp16netso there is a new tag that we can decide to follow or not18:28
cp16netthis will verify that config parameters are depricated in a standard fashion18:28
amrithhttp://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html18:28
amrith#link http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html18:28
cp16netforgive my speeling18:28
cp16netamrith: thanks for the link18:29
amrithfor-given18:29
dougshelley66so are we following these requirements now?18:29
cp16neti think we've done a great job so far following this18:29
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cp16netmainly beacuse we only add and dont change the meaning of the configs18:29
amrithhave we ever actually deprecated anything?18:30
cp16netamrith: maybe one config a long time ago in a galaxy far far away18:30
cp16net:-P18:30
dougshelley66what about having an automated test to for fwd compat of config files?18:30
amrithcp16net, I have seen us move things in a config file from [DEFAULT] to a better place but we've never actually (that I know of) deprecated the old one.18:31
cp16netapplying this tag would gate on this from happening18:31
SlickNikamrith: We've removed some internal APIs that were deprecated more than a couple of releases, I think.18:31
amrithSlickNik, thanks, wasn't aware of that.18:31
cp16netthats a good point moving the configs around may be a violation of this18:31
amrithif we're compliant with this, is there a downside in asserting the tag?18:31
SlickNikcp16net: I think we have some work to be done here if we want to apply this tag18:31
SlickNikspecifically reading -18:32
SlickNik'It uses an automated test to verify that configuration files are forward-compatible from release to release and that this policy is not accidentally broken (for example, a gating grenade test)."18:32
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SlickNikI don't think we have anything like this yet.18:32
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cp16netyeah i agree its something to think about18:32
cp16netthis is meant help with deployers during an upgrade18:33
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SlickNikWe've been following this tag in spirit, but we would need to author upgrade test jobs to actually verify this.18:33
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SlickNikHow new is this tag?18:34
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cp16neti saw it this past week18:34
cp16netNote: No projects are using assert:follows-standard-deprecation, yet.18:34
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cp16netsomething we could talk/think about for the future18:34
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cp16netok thats all i had on that topic18:35
cp16netmore for info18:35
amrithwhat are the next steps on this?18:35
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cp16netwe need to look more into this18:36
amrithI'm proposing a session at mid-cycle as we speak18:36
cp16netand determine what the steps are18:36
amrithmy speeling isn't all that good18:36
vkmcis there a place with a listing of the new tags?18:36
cp16netvkmc: i just saw this on the mailing list18:36
vkmccp16net, fair enough18:37
cp16net#link http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/18:37
amrithvkmc: http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/index.html18:37
cp16netthat looks like more18:37
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cp16neti have not personally looked into them yet just sharing18:38
cp16netalright moving on....18:38
amrithwe should at least assert http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/release_has-stable-branches.html18:38
vkmcamrith, thx!18:38
amrithhas-stable-branches ;)18:38
amrithoh, sorry, we do18:38
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amrithnot an alphabetical list ;(18:39
cp16nethah yeap18:39
cp16net#topic Open Discussion18:39
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cp16netanyone have anything else to add?18:39
amrithcp16net, I'd like to know whether it is ok to put in a shameless plug for my candidacy for election to the TC [https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229073/] here? Yes/No?18:39
cp16netto late.18:39
cp16net:-P18:39
amrithis that a yes?18:40
cp16netsure18:40
amrithOK thanks, here's a shameless plug for my candidacy for election to the TC [https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229073/]. Election is Oct 2 to Oct 9th.18:40
amrith;)18:40
SlickNik++18:40
edmondk^ thats a broken link18:40
amrithI think the TC could do with some more representation from the non-core projects18:40
cp16netremove the ] at the end18:40
edmondkor nm I dont have permissino to view this page18:40
SlickNikworks for me18:40
amrithhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/229073/18:41
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amrith"As OpenStack evolves, so too should the Technical Committee. I believe18:41
amriththat the Technical Committee has a very high representation from the18:41
amrithcore (nova, cinder, swift, glance, neutron, ...) projects, and there18:41
amrithneeds to be more representation of the other projects in OpenStack18:41
amriththat are not part of this core (trove, sahara, ...). I believe that18:41
amriththe future success of OpenStack depends heavily on the successful18:41
amrithintegration of these non-core projects, and the ease with which people18:41
amrithcan deploy the core and non-core components of OpenStack."18:41
amrith</shameless-plug>18:41
cp16netawesome amrith18:42
amrithThanks cp16net18:42
cp16netanyone have anything else?18:42
cp16netpeterstac: have something to show off? :-?18:42
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peterstacI have some graphs - where should I put them?18:43
cp16netwhats easiest for you for now18:43
* amrith takes a deep breath and doesn't swing at the softball from peterstac 18:44
* cp16net imagines peterstac is running around like a crazy person right now :-P18:44
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pmalikcp16net, he is actually sitting...18:45
cp16netlol but in my head hes running around his chair in circles getting dizzy18:45
cp16net:)18:45
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cp16neti guess if there is nothing else we can call this meeting18:46
pmalikWas just wondering if it would be possible to get few more eyes on the last three remaining int-test patch sets?18:46
pmalikIt would be great if ppl could actually start using them. :-)18:46
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cp16netpeterstac: can show us in the the trove channel.18:46
amrithcan we share images in IRC?18:47
peterstacWell, I have some .jpg files - if there's nowhere to put them ...18:47
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cp16netyou can link them18:47
vkmcyou can upload them to imgur?18:47
* amrith takes deep breath and counts to 1018:47
cp16netsome clients show them and others can click them18:47
peterstacto my hard drive ?  ;)18:47
SlickNikamrith: not easily18:48
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SlickNikmany clients support sending images to specific people via DCC18:48
SlickNikI guess you could imgur it and post a link.18:48
peterstac#link http://imgur.com/a/YS2m718:49
amrithok, peterstac what about just putting them on the agenda page for this meeting?18:49
amrithor that ;)18:49
cp16netcool18:49
cp16netthanks peterstac18:49
peterstacamrith, I tried that, couldn't figure it out quickly18:49
vkmcnice graphics18:49
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cp16netthanks everyone18:49
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cp16net#endmeeting18:49
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"18:49
openstackMeeting ended Wed Sep 30 18:49:48 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)18:49
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-09-30-18.00.html18:49
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-09-30-18.00.txt18:49
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-09-30-18.00.log.html18:49
peterstacThe only thing that jumps out is that the open changesets keep growing18:49
vkmcthanks all, thanks cp16net18:49
amriththx!18:50
vkmcpeterstac, yeah :o18:50
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Rockygfolks, I need some quick gerrit help.  git review -s returns "we don't know where your gerrit is.  Please manually create a remote named "gerrit" and try again."19:08
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RockygOops.  Wrong channel...19:09
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blogani have 4 arms20:00
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xgerman#startmeeting Octavia20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 30 20:00:51 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is xgerman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
rm_workthat is a lot of arms20:00
blallauHi20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia'20:00
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xgerman#chair blogan20:00
openstackCurrent chairs: blogan xgerman20:01
sbalukoffHowdy, folks!20:01
minwang2o/20:01
bharathmo/20:01
johnsomSomeone ate their wheaties this morning20:01
xgerman#topic Announcements20:01
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crc32o=/20:01
ajmillerhi20:01
bloganchemically infused wheaties20:01
crc32hello20:01
xgermanMitaka design summit topics  #link  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-designsummit20:01
xgermanplease add, +1, etc. if something is interesting to you20:02
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sbalukoffSweet.20:02
bana_khi20:02
xgermanoh, and for those under a rock: amax is the new Neutron PTL20:02
xgermanarmax20:02
bloganall hail our new overlord20:03
armaxaye20:03
rm_workheh20:03
xgermannot sure if dougwig can cling on to be a lt in the new regime20:03
sbalukoffHaha! Welcome!20:03
TrevorVThanks... us rock people have trouble getting those updates20:03
rm_workI did miss the official results, but cool20:03
dougwigxgerman is my biggest fan.20:03
xgermanif that’s all it took a lot of people would be lt.20:03
johnsomHe is already helping us out with the Octavia release20:04
armaxI am dougwig’s proxy20:04
armaxhe’s the one really pulling the strings20:04
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xgermanwelcome - all bow20:04
xgerman\me bows20:04
johnsomarmax I am so sorry.  He really does like to make people dance....20:04
* TrevorV laughs at xgerman and his failed bowings20:04
sbalukoffYou're Bush to dougwig's Cheney? ;)20:05
armaxjohnsom: no need, that was the plan all along :)20:05
xgermansbalukoff lol20:05
TrevorVWe've fallen right into their trap!20:05
* dougwig cries in the corner.20:05
* blogan watches20:05
sbalukoffSeriously though-- great to have you on board, and thanks for attending this meeting today, eh!20:05
johnsom+120:05
sballeo/20:05
xgerman+!20:06
xgerman+120:06
crc32o/=20:06
bloganyes thanks for attending this meeting and the countless others20:06
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xgerman#topic Tagging our release + packaging20:06
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johnsomSo we ran into some trouble getting the octavia release up on pypi20:07
xgermanjohnsom was working with mestery on getting us into pypi20:07
xgermantrouble?20:07
johnsomEvidently the octavia repository wasn't quite setup right (no stares in any direction)20:07
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* rm_work has no idea how pypi really works internally20:08
johnsomBut, we got some help from infra this morning and I have patches up to fix those.20:08
* TrevorV shares rm_work 's lack of knowledge here20:08
xgermanrm_work magic?20:08
bloganjohnsom: patches in infra?20:08
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johnsomWe are just waiting on the infra patch to go in20:08
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229518/20:08
sbalukoffCool.20:08
xgermanlink? so we can all +1 to show our support and gartitude20:08
xgermangratitude20:08
johnsomOctavia is up on pypi now, but it is just the initial push I did when setting it up.20:09
xgermanwell, does this mean we are still sort in a code freeze?20:09
johnsomIn theory yes, as I expect there will need to be another tag added to the repo to get it through the OpenStack release process20:10
sbalukoffjohnsom: Can you broadcast loudly in channel when that tag happens?20:10
johnsomSure can.20:10
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sbalukoffDanke!20:11
xgermanalso once we have Octavia in pypi who will test that it actually works?20:11
xgermanfnaval?20:11
johnsommestery or armax will actually push the button, but I am trying to follow along20:11
* xgerman thinks johnsom would make a great release manager20:11
johnsomOye20:11
sbalukoffLet's vote on it! ;)20:11
sballe+120:11
bloganthe customary vote20:12
sbalukoff+120:12
minwang2+120:12
johnsomJust for dougwig20:12
sbalukoffThat's 4 of us. Congratulations, johnsom.20:12
* rm_work wonders what johnsom votes20:12
johnsomIs that even a role?20:12
TrevorVIs now20:13
blogansounds official20:13
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xgermandoesn’t neutron has a release team?20:13
crc32yea its called blogan upstream20:13
sbalukoffHaha20:13
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* blogan is lost20:14
* sballe congratulates johnsom in his new role20:14
dougwigthis meeting is a tad wandering.20:14
xgerman#topic Brief progress reports20:14
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bloganyes it has20:14
johnsomSo, as release manager, what is going to be in next weeks release?  hmmm???20:14
bloganhas rc2 been cut?20:14
bloganor deadline past for that?20:15
johnsomRelease stuff above and any little bug fixes we have needed for liberty.  I also put up google docs to get us started on our Tokyo presentations.20:15
sbalukoffI have a first draft of the blueprint the IBM research team wants to use to add active+active and auto-scale to Octavia, hopefully in Mitaka. I want to do a small revision of it before putting it in front of the group, and that team is on vacation right now anyway... so expect to see it around mid next-week.20:15
blogani think this one is worth getting into liberty20:15
bloganhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/21096820:15
xgermanyeah!! we have an extra Tokyo topic20:15
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bloganajmiller: i added tests for it ^ hope you dont mind20:16
sbalukoffAnd yes, I'll add that to the list for the design session.20:16
ajmillerblogan: not at all!20:16
bana_kheat hooks BP is up but still wip, needs to cross check some parameter with the api doc.20:16
xgermangreat bana_k20:16
johnsomblogan I tagged that as an RC candidate.  I agree it would be good to get in20:16
sbalukoffbana_k: Awesome!20:16
bloganjohnsom: oh great20:16
bana_kapi doc is not entirely correct so reviewing it n raising bugs.20:17
xgermanthanks20:17
bana_kthanks :)20:17
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sbalukoffApologies it's taking me so long to get the stupid docs updated. And yes, johnsom, if it's not in gerrit it doesn't exist. I'll try to correct that this week.20:17
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johnsomGrin20:18
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xgermanI need to fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227912/ — maybe paying some voodoo master20:18
sbalukoffOtherwise, I'm just waiting for the go-ahead on release tagging to start guilting you into reviewing the Neutron-LBaaS shared pool code and L7 stuff that Evgeny has been working on. ;)20:19
xgermanyeah, we want L7 in Mitaka20:19
xgermanI think blogan and I need to do some work in LP for milestones, etc.20:19
bloganxgerman: sure20:19
sbalukoffCool beans!20:19
johnsomAlso, I put a global requirements change in to exclude coverage 4.0 as it breaks our unit tests in bad/strange ways.20:20
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228581/20:20
bloganalso noop driver fixes that we might use for some tests, but even if we dont at least this allow them to work: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229262/20:20
xgermanNICE20:20
xgermanshould we aim to get that in Octavia RC2 (are we doing an RC?)20:21
johnsomUpstream bug against coverage is here:20:21
johnsom#link https://bitbucket.org/ned/coveragepy/issues/416/coverage-40-is-causing-existing-unit-tests20:21
minwang2i still have one unit test for cert rotation #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215359/20:22
bloganxgerman: that one's isn't too important, so i wouldn't fight for it20:22
bloganif its easy enough, then sure20:22
xgermanwell, we are still cutting so...20:22
xgermanany other progress?20:23
minwang2also need to address some update for octavia doc patches #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226599/  #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224929/20:23
xgermanyes, docs are real important — please review20:23
sbalukoff+120:23
xgerman#action review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224929/20:24
TrevorVminwang2, links need to be on separate lines for the bot to pick them up20:24
TrevorV#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226599/20:24
TrevorV#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224929/20:24
TrevorVI gotchu though :)20:24
minwang2Trevor thanks!20:24
xgermandougwig wonder if there is some more step—by-step guide w need to write20:24
xgermanalso sbalukoff you said you were working on that20:25
crc32#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218735/20:25
crc32^^ can I get a review too?20:25
xgermansure20:25
sbalukoffxgerman: If I need to, I'll make my patch dependent on Min's.20:25
xgerman#action review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218735/20:25
xgermansbalukoff I saw Min’s docs but I also got asked in IRC for a more like deployment guide20:25
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sbalukoffxgerman: Yep, that's what I'm working on.20:26
xgermanawesome20:26
xgermanok, any other progress?20:27
sbalukoffSounds like a "nope" to me. :)20:27
xgerman#topic Octavia talk20:27
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TrevorVI can't add here, honestly... Been doing internal stuffs :(20:27
sbalukoffTrevorV: I hear you.20:27
xgermanso we are still looking for a sponsor for the USB drive ...20:27
TrevorVAlso I won't be able to go to Tokyo... so enjoy it without me guys :'(20:28
xgermantoo bad… they should have just chartered a plane20:28
sbalukoffOh! I suppose it's worth mentioning that I'm in the stages of making sure the legal paperwork is right with the OpenStack Foundation to assign the 'Octavia' trademark to them. So... yay!20:28
blogansbalukoff: thats great news!20:28
xgerman+120:28
sbalukoffSo, sometime in 2017, the USPTO will likely have finished reviewing that same paperwork and the trademark will officially transfer! ;)20:28
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xgermanyou used the IBM lawyers?20:29
TrevorVha ha ha ha20:29
sbalukoffxgerman: Yep.20:29
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xgermanNice20:29
rm_workheh20:29
johnsomDoc for the hands on lab:20:29
johnsom#link https://docs.google.com/document/d/12x6Xc6ktopg9mhxz7yqp_VsFTTqVRxJ_PtZlvzb0xPU/edit?usp=sharing20:29
sbalukoffxgerman: Didn't have a choice. This would have been easier had the USPTO moved faster than IBM's acquisition team (ie. if this were still only under Blue Box), but... such is life.20:29
xgermanyeah, but glad it’;s happening...20:30
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sbalukoffYep, me too!20:30
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johnsomSlides for the presentation:20:30
johnsom#link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1PYBLtNrkyg__FjyZ2ywynNv-22FW88hDz5j9q8W1ZOQ/edit?usp=sharing20:30
xgermanso USB sticks? We can also put up a donation box at the session...20:30
johnsomNot much progress on either yet.20:30
crc32sbalukoff: Or the project gets renamed.20:30
xgermanhah20:30
rm_workheh how much do those cost20:31
rm_workfor however many we need20:31
rm_workdid we figure out what size we'd need minimum?20:31
crc32and how big do they need to be?20:31
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sbalukoffcrc32: That's what I had to demonstrate to the IBM lawyers in exquisite detail and my usual... er... coloful language.20:31
sbalukoff;)20:31
johnsomI think we can fit in 8GB20:31
rm_workjohnsom: we need a new road image20:31
crc32cool. Ho many usb sticks?20:31
xgerman8GB are $7 at staples20:31
johnsomLet me know if you want edit rights.20:31
johnsomrm_work accepting suggestions20:32
rm_workxgerman: yeah but I assume we can get a bulk discount :P20:32
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rm_workjohnsom: something with less clouds20:32
rm_workjohnsom: it looks like a stormy road ahead20:32
rm_workthat sends a scary message :P20:32
xgermanI was hoping some corporate marketing department would see that as a good use for their money20:32
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johnsomrm_work hahahaha, I was thinking links....20:32
rm_workxgerman: how many do we need tho?20:33
johnsomThese images pre-date me20:33
sbalukoffxgerman: I checked with my team. I think they're willing, but worried about the timeline to get it through red tape.20:33
crc3228 dollars for 10 Gigs20:33
sbalukoffNobody here has any idea how many we need, right? :P20:33
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crc3228 dollars for 10  8Gig sticks20:33
xgermanI think the web page knows20:34
rm_workjohnsom: http://www.ewallpapers.eu/w_show/open-road-1920-1080-5092.jpg20:34
johnsomI don't know how many we need.  I can look and see how many people have already signed up, but that doesn't tell us the limit20:34
sbalukoffDo we know how many seats the room will have?20:34
rm_workright20:34
sbalukoffI mean, maybe we'll pack the place, maybe we won't.20:34
minwang2rm_work nice pic20:34
rm_worklike how many could it possibly be20:34
sbalukoffBut it seems silly to bring more than that.20:34
rm_work100?20:34
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rm_workjohnsom: that seems more "laxidaisical" to me20:35
xgermanit says limited20:35
rm_workor however you spell that20:35
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xgermanso far we have 10 signed up20:35
rm_workjohnsom: maybe http://alphatravelblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/French-Roadtrip-Open-Road.jpg20:35
johnsomWe have 11 signed up right now20:35
sbalukoffWell... as long as we have the image available for download someplace, I don't feel guilty about not having enough USB sticks. If you really want to check out Octavia you can download a friggen image.20:36
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bloganyeah that sounds like the default solution, and usb stick is a backp20:36
rm_workjohnsom: did we get the actual rights to the last one or was it just google-image-search?20:36
bloganbackup20:36
rm_workwell, the internet AT the conference will not be great, it never is20:36
johnsomrm_work again, pre-dates me20:36
rm_workbut just a couple to pass around would be fine for that20:36
bloganjust post the link to the image on a keynote slide, let everyone at the summit download it all at once20:37
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johnsomYeah, that is my worry.  I don't want to count on good internet.20:37
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rm_workactually, maybe it Tokyo it won't be too bad20:37
rm_worklike everyone there has gigabit i think20:37
sbalukoffRight, so $28 for 10 of these sticks... and we're covered, eh?  (Also, who doesn't have the ability to download this stuff? Are we expecting to hand a bunch of these out to Chinese citizens?)20:37
xgermanas long as we put ti in a JP data center20:37
rm_workclosest we can get is like... Hong Kong20:38
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crc32I'm ordering 3 sets of 10. 22$ each20:38
bloganalright plan needs some work it sounds like, but a direction in place20:38
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johnsomOur CDN has a pop in Japan.  I will load the image there20:38
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xgermanawesome — so we have it all covered20:39
sbalukoffcrc32: Thanks, eh!20:39
rm_workcrc32: erk, k -- hopefully they reimburse you20:39
sbalukoffSweet!20:39
xgermanI can’t really see how we can’t expense that...20:39
crc32is 30 enough?20:39
crc32cause thats all I can afford now.20:39
rm_workand/or I wonder if RAX has a vendor where we could get them cheaper and with RAX logo on them :P20:39
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sbalukoffcrc32: It sounds like it probably will be, yes.20:39
xgermanyeah, let’s work the corporations again20:40
rm_workcrc32: i might wait just a moment at least and ask someone at RAX20:40
xgerman+120:40
sbalukoff+120:40
crc32When they arrive I'll hand them to rm_work since I lose things. :(20:40
rm_worklol20:40
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sbalukoffHeh!20:40
crc32you ask rm_work. its only 68$20:40
johnsomWe need to get the image on them too20:40
rm_workhopefully data rate from HK to JP is not far :P20:40
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crc32yea but you said you would load them in Tokyo.20:40
rm_workerr, hopefully data rate is good20:40
crc32I thought20:41
crc32or we can load them here.20:41
rm_workyeah we'd want to pre-image them20:41
crc32I'm guessing were going to load them at the last second though.20:41
rm_workpretty easy to do en-mass20:41
johnsomIt's a long plane flight, so whoever has them could image on the way....  grin20:41
sbalukoffcrc32: +120:41
TrevorVI think rm_work would do that.20:41
crc32incase some last second patches make it in.20:41
TrevorVHe can't sleep regularly anyway20:41
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rm_workI am so going to be taking ambien on the plane >_>20:41
xgermanok, I think we are all set20:42
xgerman#topic Open Discussion20:42
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dougwigwhat part of this meeting hasn't been open discussion?  :)20:42
xgermanlol20:42
johnsomTwo or three minutes...20:43
xgermanso moving the meeting time didn’t garner much support on the ML...20:43
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sbalukoffdougwig: We are always on topic. The topic just likes to shift without a general notice to everyone. No our fault, eh.20:43
johnsomIf anyone knows Matt Riedemann at IBM you can ping him to remove his -1 from the global requirements update.  He didn't ready the commit message.20:44
crc32rm_work are you gonna ask rax or do I just order them. I'm like ready to click shit to address.20:44
TrevorVdougwig, you just upset that we young peeps keep up with the conversational flow and you have trouble with it :P20:44
sbalukoffjohnsom: I've no idea who that is... :/20:44
xgermanTrevorV dougwig - that’s how we roll20:44
blogandoesn't this seem like an important patch to get into rc2?20:45
bloganhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/22065420:45
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xgermanyep20:45
TrevorV#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22065420:45
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sbalukoffYeah.20:45
blogandoes it need a bug report in lp to get into rc2?20:45
johnsomCould be.  Do you all want me to tag it?  That means we have to get on the reviews and get it merged.....20:46
johnsomYes20:46
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dougwigTrevorV: get off my lawn.20:46
crc32forget this order then. Deliver estimate Oct 27 - Nov 1320:46
xgermanyeah, it might be the JP CDN20:47
TrevorVdougwig, I found a snipe, and I followed it under your porch, but this snipe had a long tail, and looked more like a large mouse.20:47
rm_workcrc32: ah lol such slow20:48
bloganback to octavia stuff, some of us discussed having a lot of the long running tests run the noop drivers so the tests run faster20:48
xgermanyeah, we said API tests20:48
blogansince they sometimes hit the timeout20:49
johnsomAh yes....20:49
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johnsomThe new lower and variable timeout no less20:49
bloganso is there an easy way to change what drivers the gate tests use?20:49
bloganindeed20:49
bloganeasy = i can do it in octavia20:49
bloganor does it require a change in infra20:49
johnsomIt goes in neutron-lbaas20:50
bloganyeah tahts what i mean20:50
blogansorry20:50
xgermanwell, can’t we change the octavia.con easily?20:50
rm_workit's possible to do with iniset in the gate-hook script20:50
xgermanoctavia.conf20:50
bloganin gate_hook?20:50
bloganyeah tahts what i thought20:50
xgermanrm_work +120:50
johnsomyep20:50
bloganso that'll be ab it more involved that i hoped but i'll start on it20:50
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johnsomIt's really not that bad.20:50
bloganme + bash = bad20:50
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bloganbut i gotta get better at it20:51
xgermanask rm_work to mentor you :-)20:51
johnsomI can do it if you would prefer20:51
bloganno, ill do it, im just complaining :)20:51
xgermanok, settled20:51
xgermanmeeting time?20:51
bloganending time?20:51
xgermanI think we keep the slot...20:51
bloganohhh20:51
bloganwell i guess i dont see a lot of people wanting the change in time20:52
bloganwhich is why i asked20:52
bloganin the thread20:52
xgermanyep20:52
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xgermanbut it’s probably good to check once in a while...20:52
bloganwhat originally brought it up?20:52
xgermansbalukoff and his EMEA IBM people + Evgeny wanted it earlier20:52
sbalukoffxgerman: Yep, keep the slot for now.20:53
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sbalukoffxgerman: I will poke the IBM research team again on this, and I can get them motivated to start attending these meetings (as they should), we can revisit the meeting time again then.20:53
bloganah okay well if we hit a larger amount of contributors we can do the split one that neutron does20:53
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xgermanor we do an ASCTIVE-ACTIVE spin-off20:54
rm_workyeah though discussing meeting time during a meeting that people can't attend due to the time... is lulz20:54
sbalukoffblogan: I'm hoping we can find a time in the morning that works well for most... and doesn't make me want to gouge out my eyes. ;)20:54
rm_workbut i guess if no one responded on the ML <_<20:54
blogansbalukoff: 7am est20:54
sbalukoffrm_work: Yep, but nobody much has said much on the ML abou tit.20:54
sbalukoffblogan: I will destroy you.20:54
rm_worksbalukoff: +220:54
johnsomblogan Enjoy talking to yourself....20:54
blogansbalukoff: no need, that time will do that for you20:54
rm_workI am core on "destroying blogan"20:54
sbalukoffHaha!20:54
xgermananything else (serious)?20:55
blogannope20:55
xgerman#endmeeting20:55
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