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harlowja_at_home#startmeeting oslo16:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Sep 21 16:00:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is harlowja_at_home. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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harlowja_at_homecourtesy ping for GheRivero, amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, dims, haypo,16:00
harlowja_at_homecourtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, ozamiatin, redrobot, rpodolyaka,16:00
harlowja_at_homecourtesy ping for sergmelikyan, sreshetnyak, sileht, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek16:00
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ozamiatino/16:00
e0nehi16:00
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bknudsonhi16:00
kzaitsev_mbo/16:00
dims__o/16:00
harlowja_at_homeyo yo16:00
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bknudsonlooks like there's been a coup already.16:00
silehto/16:00
harlowja_at_homeso your previous meeting host, dims__ will be busy today, i have taken his spot (not his body)16:00
harlowja_at_homehaha16:00
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harlowja_at_homelet's get the show on the road!16:01
harlowja_at_home#topic Action items from last week16:01
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harlowja_at_homesooo16:01
harlowja_at_homehttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-09-14-16.19.html16:01
harlowja_at_home#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-09-14-16.19.html16:01
harlowja_at_homeso i think the virtual sprint email was done16:01
harlowja_at_home#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-liberty-virtual-doc-sprint16:02
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harlowja_at_homejecarey, good to go right?16:02
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harlowja_at_home'Kick-off:14:00 UTC on Sept 24th' (from etherpad)16:02
jecareyharlowja_at_home, yes ... though due to a family thing, I can't participate anymore.16:02
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harlowja_at_homeokies, we will have a honorary kickoff in your name then, someone else can kick i suppose?16:03
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* harlowja_at_home does not do so well at kicking (balls or other)16:03
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harlowja_at_homeanyways, we'll make it work (kick or not)16:04
jungleboyjo/16:04
harlowja_at_home#topic Red flags for/from liaisons16:04
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harlowja_at_homeany red flags that anyones seeing?16:05
bknudsonnothing for keystone16:05
jungleboyjnoting for Cinder.16:05
jungleboyj*nothing16:05
johnsomNothing on the Octavia front16:05
harlowja_at_homegood good16:05
harlowja_at_home#topic Specs specs specs16:07
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harlowja_at_homesoo we have a few specs that are nearly ready to get merged, just wanted to see if anyone has any issues with them (or other)16:07
dhellmanno/16:07
harlowja_at_homehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/204073/ (new privsep work)16:07
harlowja_at_homeseems like people are eager(?) to get that one going16:07
harlowja_at_homei've requested a y! security folk also look at it (but doesn't seem like that has happened yet)16:08
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harlowja_at_homeanyone else that wants to look that one over, please do16:08
harlowja_at_homeit seems to be about a micron away from merging, so this week it will probably move that far16:09
bknudsonthis is proposing a library or server?16:09
* bknudson wonders why this isn't part of OSSG16:09
harlowja_at_homegus, yt (pretty sure this is the right gus)16:10
harlowja_at_homebknudson, +1 to it being connected into  OSSG16:11
bnemecI believe this is actually what OSSG wanted us to do in the first place.16:11
dims__++ bnemec16:11
dhellmannbknudson: privsep is a new feature in rootwrap, is that not made clear in the spec? (I haven't read it)16:11
bnemecI don't like my odds of finding the ML post where they said that though. :-)16:11
bknudsonI haven't read the spec.16:12
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bknudsonI know this was discussed by the OSSG and we came up with the same solution16:12
dhellmannthis is the thing we discussed in vancouver16:12
bknudsonnow I'm wondering why this work is proposed to oslo program and not ossg program16:12
bknudsonalthough if oslo owns rootwrap that makes sense16:13
dhellmannbecause the code is going into rootwrap -- right16:13
dims__and a eventual replacement for rootwrap16:13
bknudsonI noticed that changing rootwrap is kind of a mess, since nova doesn't actually use "just rootwrap"16:13
bknudsonyou can also configure nova to not use rootwrap16:13
bknudsonmaybe switching to privsep can clean that up too.16:14
bknudson(as in, always use privsep rather than rootwrap/direct commands)16:14
harlowja_at_homeya, i hope that's how this works out :)16:14
harlowja_at_homeso that's spec #1 thats about to go in, please check it out before it merges (soon)16:15
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bknudsonI don't see in the spec an obvious place where it says this is part of rootwrap16:16
harlowja_at_homespec #2 behind door #2 is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219468/16:17
harlowja_at_home'Spec for pbr changes for pip'16:17
harlowja_at_homethis one should get pbr a wider audience and help overall (afaik)16:17
harlowja_at_homemaking pbr and pip more BFF16:17
dhellmannbknudson: I didn't either, and it would be good to clarify that. now that I think of it, we also discussed making this a brand new library16:18
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bknudsonif it's a new library why not put it in ossg16:18
dhellmanndunno16:18
* harlowja_at_home has no objections to this, if its the best thing to do :)16:18
harlowja_at_homeor we can transfer ownership as needed...16:19
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harlowja_at_home#action harlowja_at_home start a ML email thread about privsep and ossg and repo/code ownership16:21
harlowja_at_homei'll start something on that, it seems like an ok question imho16:21
harlowja_at_homeand one that i'm not sure the answer to :-P16:21
harlowja_at_homesound ok to folks?16:22
bknudsonyou can ask gus if he's willing to do it first16:22
harlowja_at_homek16:22
harlowja_at_homewill do16:22
harlowja_at_homeany other specs folks want to bring up that need some attention16:23
harlowja_at_homehttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/oslo-specs,n,z16:23
harlowja_at_home#topic Summit planning16:24
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harlowja_at_homealright, onto the next bigger topic16:24
harlowja_at_homemitaka is fastly approaching16:24
harlowja_at_homeand https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-oslo-summit-planning is fastly forming16:24
bknudsonhow many slots does oslo have?16:24
harlowja_at_homedims__, you have any idea on ^ ?16:25
dims__bknudson: we haven't been told yet16:25
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harlowja_at_homethat's probably decided soon right?16:26
harlowja_at_homei say take over all the slots, lol16:26
harlowja_at_home:-P16:26
bknudsonlet's make this the "oslo summit"16:26
harlowja_at_homeor maybe wait a little for the 'O' summit16:27
harlowja_at_homewhich will be in oslo, lol16:27
harlowja_at_homeanndd that one will def be all oslo, all the time16:27
* harlowja_at_home can not confirm any of the above ^16:27
harlowja_at_homeanyway, please add ideas, drivers, interested to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-oslo-summit-planning16:28
harlowja_at_homeanything and everything accepted (ideas, people, drivers...)16:28
bknudsonoslo is taking over everything, e.g., "Policy, roles, and finally killing Bug 968696" was a keystone session last time.16:28
openstackbug 968696 in OpenStack Compute (nova) ""admin"-ness not properly scoped" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96869616:28
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bknudson"finally pulling off encryption with oslo.messaging (trusted messaging?), how to get from 0 to 60 (aka, how to make it happen)" -- was also done in keystone for a while16:29
harlowja_at_home:)16:29
harlowja_at_homeif it doesn't work, we'll pass it back to keystone16:29
harlowja_at_homethe cycle of life, lol16:29
harlowja_at_home*circle of life16:30
harlowja_at_homehttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/8zLx_JtcQVI/maxresdefault.jpg (or other circle of life reference)16:30
harlowja_at_homelol16:30
harlowja_at_home^ keystone and oslo (all happy)16:30
bknudsonI thought circle of life was when the lion ate the monkey16:30
harlowja_at_homelol16:30
harlowja_at_homethat is the other circle16:30
harlowja_at_homethey didn't show those scenes in the movi16:31
harlowja_at_homei know there are a few other things that could be talked about for taskflow, and possibly a few other libraries, so i'll poke some folks on that16:32
harlowja_at_homeand get those ideas listed on there16:32
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harlowja_at_home#action harlowja_at_home poke folks for taskflow and automaton ideas to get on etherpad for mitaka16:32
harlowja_at_home#topic Open discussion16:33
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harlowja_at_homeanything else folks want to chit-chat about?16:33
harlowja_at_homevote as well!16:34
harlowja_at_homedims__, or me, you decide the future16:34
* harlowja_at_home will not build a wall around mexico this time16:34
bknudsoncanada?16:34
harlowja_at_homemaybe canada, to much maple syrup16:34
* harlowja_at_home hasn't had maple syrup in a while, mmm16:35
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harlowja_at_homeokie dokie then, speak now or forever hold your peace16:36
harlowja_at_home*where forever == until next week16:36
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harlowja_at_homeexit stage left, lol16:37
harlowja_at_homethx for showing up folks16:37
jungleboyj:-)  Later.16:37
harlowja_at_home#endmeeting16:38
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catherineD#startmeeting refstack19:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Sep 21 19:00:33 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
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catherineDroll call19:00
catherineD#link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-15-09-2119:01
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catherineDhi hogepodge: Rockyg: pvaneck:  ..19:01
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catherineD#topic Welcome Rackspace team to join RefStack19:03
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Rockyghey!19:03
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dwalleckwoo!19:03
catherineDdwalleck: Welcome19:03
dwalleckThanks for having us :)19:03
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catherineDWe are glad to have you joinning us ...19:04
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catherineD#topic Infra hosting19:04
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catherineDpvaneck: pls update ...19:04
Rockyghey, it's really important we have a PCP working on this.  It helps us get it right.19:05
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pvaneckright19:05
pvaneckso the patch in question is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198869/19:05
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pvanecki just submitted an update on that patch which will hopefully be all we need19:06
catherineDRockyg: PCP?19:06
Rockyg??19:06
RockygOh.  Public cloud provider19:07
catherineDRockyg: ha..19:07
catherineDRockyg: ++19:07
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pvaneckin any case, just waiting to see if it passes jenkins19:08
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catherineDpvaneck: thanks for the update .... Let see how it goes from here ...19:08
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catherineD#topic CPID (Cloud Provider ID)19:09
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catherineD#info Admin credential is no longr required to fetch CPID for RefStack !!!19:09
catherineDI am able to run RefStack now with no admin credential specified ...19:10
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catherineD#topic Enable RefStack for Non-tempest test19:11
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catherineDI believe for this, we will leverage Tempest plug-in to bringin  in-tree tests ... RefStack will not develop own plugin ....19:12
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dwalleckAs long as the tempest plugin system is flexible enough, it shouldn't be a problem19:13
sslypushenko__o/ Hi, all!19:13
catherineDhi sslypushenko__: ...19:13
pvaneckhey sergey19:13
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catherineDdwalleck: right ... so we may need to participate in Tempest plugin development if we find out that it is not flexible for RefStack ...19:15
sslypushenko__catherineD It is already functional enough19:16
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catherineDRockyg: with that I am not sure how we would be able to bring in the EC2 test ... It just meant that the EC2 needs to be able to operate with Tempest plugin19:16
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dwalleckI'm going to start catching up on whatever work has been done so far for the Tempest plugin system. I'm interested to see what the actual implementation is19:16
sslypushenko__Basically, it is just discovery for non-tempest test + config injection19:16
RockygcatherineD, Right.  The EC2 folks will need to get work with the plugin19:17
sslypushenko__dwalleck You can look here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214571/19:17
sslypushenko__It is reaaly simple if you experienced in python packaging19:18
dwallecksslypushenko__: Thanks, will do19:18
catherineDsslypushenko__: so config is automated with no user intertions?  we all know that config is a big deal when testsing with Tempest19:19
sslypushenko__Also, mtreinish is on top tempest plugins from tempest side19:19
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sslypushenko__catherineD Heh) No)19:20
sslypushenko__But plugins allow to store config fot non-tempest tests in tempest.conf)19:20
sslypushenko__So tempest.conf becomes a bigger deal19:21
catherineDsslypushenko__: interesting ...19:21
sslypushenko__To make it possible, in-tree tests should support configuration through oslo-config19:22
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catherineDdwalleck: you join us in time for this very important milestone for RefStack ...19:22
RockygWe should add that bit of info to our docs19:23
Rockygthe use of oslo-config19:23
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catherineDRockyg: +119:23
dwalleckYeah, if folks standardize on oslo-config, it should make the process more straightforward I'd think19:23
catherineDI will keep non-tempest testing in the weekly agenda so we can discuss more ... meanwhile, let's give dwalleck: sometime to understand more on Tempest plugin19:25
catherineDready for the next topic?19:26
dwallecksounds good19:26
sslypushenko__ec2-api project uses oslo-config, so it should be a problem19:26
sslypushenko__go next19:26
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catherineD#topic Brainstorm on data models among vendor, user, key and result data19:26
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catherineDI feel like this is a topic that is best to  be discussed with f-2-f ... but we can trial ...19:27
sslypushenko__+1 for f-2-f19:27
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dwallecksslypushenko__: ++19:28
sslypushenko__we will just waste a time now19:28
Rockyg++ f2f19:28
catherineDso should I schedule a f2f before summit?19:28
pvaneckor save it for summit design sessions19:28
catherineDsslypushenko__: is not attending summit ...19:29
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catherineDhow about dwalleck: ?  will you be attending the summit?19:29
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dwalleckcatherineD: Sam and I will be there19:29
catherineDdwalleck: that is great ....19:29
sslypushenko__We can do fist try this or maybe next week19:29
catherineDsslypushenko__: +119:29
catherineDwe have 1/2 hour left for today ...19:30
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catherineDeven that we are not efficient ... I think at least we can raise the areas of concern ...19:30
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catherineDso final Data model discuss should be at the summit but we can start preping for it now .... at the summit we just finalize the agreement ...19:31
sslypushenko__I think it should be a really big problem, maybe 1-hour talk will be enough19:31
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sslypushenko__catherineD +119:32
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catherineDHere is what we will do ... discuss now for 1/2 hour ... I will schedule a one hour call next week ... and more if needed ... finalize design decision at the summit ..19:33
catherineDsound alright to everyone?19:33
dwalleckSure19:33
pvanecksure. what are the current areas of concern19:33
catherineDsslypushenko__: and this time It will be hangout call :-)19:33
sslypushenko__If we don't have anything else for discussion for today19:33
catherineDon the agenda ... this brainstorm and open discussion ...19:34
sslypushenko__ok... lets go)19:35
catherineDdo any one have any open discussion that we should do before we dive into the data model discussion?19:35
catherineDok ...19:35
catherineDthe #1 concern I have now is .. with anonymois data uploading .. junk data are being send to refstack.net ... and we can not clean up that data ...19:36
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catherineD#link Empty test data uploaded to refstack.net  https://bugs.launchpad.net/refstack/+bug/149811219:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1498112 in refstack "RefStack should check for empty test results " [Undecided,New]19:36
sslypushenko__And that is why it should be prohibited19:37
dwalleckIs a primary concern to still allow the uploading of anonymous data?19:37
catherineDsslypushenko__: +119:37
catherineDdwalleck: the primary concern is malicious attack to refstack.net (so far it is not) if we keep allowing anonymous data updalod  ....19:38
dwalleckOr I guess the question is, would it give some people hesitation to upload their results if they had to be registered?19:39
hogepodgecatherineD: can rate-limiting stop that?19:39
hogepodgedwalleck: I think it could be a barrier19:39
catherineDbut there is contradicted interests that with anaonymous data upload we could enable more participation to upload data ...19:39
dwalleckHmm, I see. Maybe a policy of keeping the last x days or numbers of anonymous results and a background process to keep things tidy?19:39
hogepodgesome vendors have reported test results with refstack, so those uploads need to stick around19:40
catherineDdwalleck: actually the more data we have the better it is for statistical analysis ...19:41
hogepodgeI could provide a list of which ones19:41
pvaneckwe need an administrative panel so at least admin users can perform cleanup. I believe this has been brought up before.19:41
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catherineDhogepodge: +1 that is why once the data is uploaded anonymously we have no ways to know which data shoudl be removed ...19:41
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catherineDhogepodge: I am thinking if we have the data model clean up ...19:42
sslypushenko__hogepodge These vendors can upload signed data19:42
catherineDuser shoud upload data with authorization ... they still can decide which data to share  to the communicty19:42
sslypushenko__Signing results don't require to have an account19:43
dwalleckcatherineD: That's a very reasonable point19:43
hogepodgesslypushenko__: we've tracked those results through their ids. if we want them to reupload refstack-client needs an offline option where previously run results can be sent again19:43
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hogepodgesslypushenko__: which is a needed feature anyway19:43
catherineDThe concern with signed data right now is it is tight to the key ... we need to resolve key to user to vendor relationship19:43
sslypushenko__hogepodge agreed19:44
Rockyg++19:44
catherineDhogepodge: being able to upload earlier data could be something that we can provide19:44
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sslypushenko__catherineD Why not?19:45
catherineDsslypushenko__: I agee that refstack-client can provide option to upload previous data ... is the the question?19:46
sslypushenko__I agreed with hogepodge that anonymous results can be reuploaded with signature19:46
catherineDsslypushenko__: I also agree ...19:46
catherineDdoes that mean that disable anonymous upload would be something that we can consider?19:47
RockygPlease?19:48
dwalleckIf anyone could register, then I don't see a need for anonymous upload19:48
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catherineDdoes everyone agree that RefStack should disable anonymous upload?19:49
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pvaneckso you want every results set to be tied to an openstackid account going forward?19:49
RockygVote19:49
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Rockygand +119:49
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sslypushenko__catherineD +119:50
catherineD#startvore  RefStack to disable anonymous data upload?  yes, no19:51
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catherineD#startvote Refstack to disable anonymous data upload? yes, no19:51
openstackBegin voting on: Refstack to disable anonymous data upload? Valid vote options are yes, no.19:51
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.19:51
catherineD#vote yes19:51
dwalleck#vote yes19:51
Rockyg#vote yes19:52
pvaneck#vote yes19:52
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catherineDhogepodge: sslypushenko__: pls vote19:52
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sslypushenko__#vote yes19:53
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pvaneckmajority yes in any case19:54
catherineD#endvote19:54
openstackVoted on "Refstack to disable anonymous data upload?" Results are19:55
openstackyes (5): Rockyg, catherineD, sslypushenko__, pvaneck, dwalleck19:55
catherineD#agreed RefStack to work on plane to disable anonymous data upload19:55
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catherineDthank you everyone!  I think we could protect our site better this way ...19:56
Rockygagreed19:56
pvaneckso for implementation, all results uploaded need to be passed in with a private key, with the corresponding public key already on the refstack server19:56
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catherineDa few more things we need to consider before disable the anonymous upload ... that is why we need a plan19:56
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catherineDperhaps we need an one hour call after all ...19:57
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catherineDpls tell me on #refstack the best time for you ....19:57
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catherineDpvaneck: yea we need to carefully design and plan the implementation19:57
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catherineDlet me end this meeting ... thank you all!!!!19:58
catherineD#endmeeting19:58
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redrobot#startmeeting barbican19:58
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:59
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'barbican'19:59
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redrobot#topic Roll Call19:59
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iguethso/19:59
jkfPresent19:59
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redrobotAs usual today's agenda can be found here:20:01
redrobot#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican20:01
redrobotnot a whole lot of barbicaneers here today :(20:01
dave-mccowano/20:01
redrobotok, let's get it started20:01
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redrobot#topic Action Items from last meeting20:02
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redrobot#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-09-14-20.00.html20:02
arunkanto/20:02
redrobotno updates here....20:02
* redrobot sucks at action items20:02
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redrobot#action redrobot to make diagrams of federation workflows discussed with Joe20:02
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redrobot#action edrobot to ask release managers about Barbican in Kilo release notes20:02
redrobot#undo20:02
openstackRemoving item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x9cc1050>20:02
redrobot#action redrobot to ask release managers about Barbican in Kilo release notes20:02
elmikoed robot, who's that guy?20:02
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redrobotelmiko lol20:03
redrobotok, moving on to the actual topics for this meeting20:03
redrobotarunkant ping?20:03
arunkantyes..jsut added item regarding barbicanclient failures at neutron gate20:04
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redrobotarunkant just making sure you were online20:04
redrobot#topic  Barbicanclient failures on neutron test gate20:04
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redrobotarunkant you have the floor20:04
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arunkantIts failing for all recent barbicanclient builds..so was wondering how to investigate this further.20:05
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arunkantI see there is a recent check added in devstack around related error area. But not sure how to identify what's needed to change for barbican.20:05
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arunkantChange in devstack: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/c71973eb04d05c2497eb930c4e1b59dcaf98308520:06
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redrobotarunkant I haven't looked into it...20:07
arunkantIs there anybody in team who has expertise in this area ?20:07
redrobothas anyone else looked at this failing gate?20:07
diazjfredrobot, I've taken a look20:07
redrobotdiazjf anything interesting?20:07
diazjfhttp://logs.openstack.org/43/208343/15/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-python-barbicanclient/bb736f2/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz20:07
diazjfseems as though the error is [ERROR] /opt/stack/new/devstack/inc/python:178 The following LIBS_FROM_GIT were not installed correct: python-barbicanclient20:08
diazjfI was thinking it ,maybe due to this change20:08
diazjfhttps://github.com/openstack/barbican/commit/803a8a0256724876b98fceef24ec7cd4c2eb58a820:08
diazjfbut lets ask rm_work20:08
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arunkantdiazjf ..Looked into this futher..and there is a new check added in devstack..may be we need to add something in that regard on barbican devstack side20:09
redrobotI may have some time to look into it after we get RC1 shipped20:09
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redrobotI would suggest asking for help in infra, or maybe with the neutron folks.20:09
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arunkantWould be quicker if in house expert can look into this20:10
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aleeo/20:11
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arunkantredrobot, so far there is no indication that issue is related to neutron code base.20:12
redrobotarunkant not sure we have a devstack expert among us...  rm_work would probably be the closest, but he was mostly interested in getting the lbass gate running20:12
arunkantredrobot: okay will ping him and then in parallel will try to find other help20:13
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redrobotawesome, thanks for taking point on this arunkant20:13
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redrobotok, moving on20:13
redrobot#topic liberty-rc120:14
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redrobotWe're putting hte polish on the CAs feature20:14
redrobotand by we I mean mostly dave-mccowan and alee :)20:14
redrobot#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican_cas_todo_list20:14
redrobotis being used to track the pending work.20:14
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redrobot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225387/20:15
redrobot^^ could use some reviews20:15
edtubillo/20:15
aleeredrobot, stillwaiting for you to +2/W https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225387/'20:15
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aleeredrobot, it would have been +2'ed by Oz but he's probably asleep.20:16
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aleesee his last comment20:16
redrobotalee I had a question about the verbs-in-routes for the urls20:16
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redrobotmostly curious why we're not using more restful POST / DELETE type of requests instead of add-xxx and remove-xxx20:17
elmiko+120:17
aleeredrobot, you mean the "add-to-project" ?20:17
aleefor instance20:17
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aleewhat we're doing gere is creating a new association between two resources -- the project and the ca20:18
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aleenot creating a new resource20:18
redrobotarguably the association is the new resource?20:19
redrobotit just seems weird to me.20:20
redrobotbut I don't have any better suggestions right now :-\20:20
aleearguably yes - redrobot this was agreeed upon a long time ago in the bp review20:20
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aleeredrobot, in kilo as I recall corectly20:20
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elmikoif the new associations are resources, meaning they are separate entities, then POST seems appropriate20:21
aleeso its been around for awhile20:21
aleeelmiko, redrobot I'm not opposed to changing this - but maybe not right before rc1?  this seems like a great v2 thing20:21
elmikobut, if the associations are just updates to an existing resource then the more restful approach would be to PUT an updated version of the resource20:21
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redrobotyeah... definitely something to throw on the list for v220:22
elmikoalee: fair, sorry to derail20:22
redrobotI was mostly curious... definitely not wanting to hold up RC120:23
aleeelmiko, redrobot the standard approach would be to say  expose /v1/proect-cas20:23
aleeand have that as a separate resource.20:23
aleeand then yes  - the standard methods would apply20:23
redrobotalee dave-mccowan besides this CR, what other CRs are needed before we're ready to cut RC1 ?20:23
dave-mccowanit's a straight-forward change, limited to the controller.  the only question is how it impacts schedule.20:23
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dave-mccowanthis CR is hot off the press:  https://review.openstack.org/22603920:24
aleeredrobot, dave-mccowan again  - I'd just as soon not try to redesign the api just before rc120:24
redrobotalee +120:24
dave-mccowanthat CR covers to-dos # 1, 8, and 9 I think.20:25
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aleeredrobot, so I'm working on CRs for issues 2 and 320:25
aleeand dave-mccowan is working on a patch for issue 520:26
dave-mccowanthat leave to-do #5, which I'll do next.20:26
aleeI hope to get a CR out for 2 tonight20:26
aleeand maybe 3 by tomorrow EOD20:26
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aleeand then we just need reviews .. hint, hint, nudge, nudge .20:27
dave-mccowani had a question on a use case:  is there a need for a user to know his default CA?  this is used when an order goes out for cert and no CA is specified.  The logic is 1) project-preferred, 2) global preferred, 3) earliest created.  Barbican knows this, but the average user may not.  do we need a GET /cas/default ?20:27
redrobotwhy not require a CA every time?20:28
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redrobotor is the feature that the user does not need to know the CA?20:28
aleeright20:29
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aleethe project admin can choose a given ca for the users in the project20:29
aleeand can change those on the fly20:29
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aleedave-mccowan, I need to think a little about that and how best to do it . lets take this offline perhaps?20:30
redrobotthere's no more topics on the agenda20:30
redrobotwe can continue here20:30
aleeoh ok ..20:31
aleewell in that case, ...20:31
redrobotare users still allowed to use the non-preferred CAs?20:31
redrobotie, if my project admin sets Symantec as preferred for my project, does that force me to use only symantec?20:31
aleeredrobot, it depends on what the project admin has set up but yes20:31
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aleeredrobot, if your project admin selects symantec and only symantec for your project, then you can only use symantec20:32
redrobotmaybe we don't need a new route, just an entry in the GET /cas response that shows which is preferred for my project?20:32
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aleeredrobot, if they select symanatec and dogtag as your project cas, then one will be preferred  - but you can choose20:33
aleepreferred means - if ca_ref not preovided , thats the ca that will be used20:33
dave-mccowan i think the user will need access to his effective default CA, so he can read the cacert.    adding GET /cas/default could be one way.   changing behavior of /cas/preferred is another way.20:33
dave-mccowanchanging out of GET /ca/   might be bad.  is magnum already coding to the current spec?20:34
redrobotit could just be an additional attribute in that response20:34
redrobot"preferred_ca_ref": "http:///something..."20:35
aleedave-mccowan, originally I did think that GET /preferred was the way to get the preferred CA20:35
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aleeand I 'm not sure thats not still not a bad idea20:35
* redrobot 's head explodes from too many negatives20:36
dave-mccowanalee that's what i had assumed too.  but the code isn't working that way.  i can fix the code to match that.20:36
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aleeon the other had, GET /cas/preferred could also be interpreted as the call usied by the project admin to see which of the project cas was defined as preferred20:36
aleeand in that interpretation, would be restricted to project admins20:37
redrobotI still think this should all be information that is conveyed by just issuing a GET to /cas20:37
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dave-mccowanalee /v3/ should have two root resources:  /cas/ and /project-cas/  to avoid that confusion.20:38
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aleedave-mccowan, right - the previuos conversation was timely ..20:39
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aleedave-mccowan, and maybe thats how we fix it in v220:40
aleedave-mccowan, redrobot question is what to do now ..20:40
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woodster_all we need is a way for regular users to see the preferred CA?20:41
aleeyeah20:41
redrobotI still think that GET /cas could include the information20:42
redrobotin a backwards compatible way20:42
aleeredrobot, GET /cas right now returns a list of ca_refs20:42
aleewe'd have to change it to include ca_refs + attributes20:43
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redrobotwhat does the response look like?20:43
redrobot{ cas: [ref1, ref2, ref3] }  ?20:43
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aleedave-mccowan, redrobot , woodster_ on the other hand -- if we were to change GET /cas/preferred to provide whatever the default is, that still would work for both project admin and regular user20:44
jhfengcan just the 1st one be the preferred one ?20:44
dave-mccowanGET /cas/ already has /all, /preferred, and /global-preferred.   If we're consistent with that design, we should add /default.20:44
redrobotwhat is a default CA?20:44
redrobothow is it different from a preferred CA?20:45
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dave-mccowandefault is a combination of project preferred, global preferred, and earliest created... in that priority order.20:45
aleedave-mccowan, I think we can use GET /preferred and just make it get the default20:45
* redrobot feels like he doesn't know enough about this api to contribute to this conversation20:45
* redrobot is going to contribute anyway20:45
redrobotdave-mccowan seems confusing to me to add a new term to the api20:46
dave-mccowanalee the only issue with that is admin vs. non-admin behavior20:46
aleedave-mccowan, if a project ca is defined, this will be the same in any case20:46
aleedave-mccowan, we can be more specific in v2 -- if a project ca is defined, this will end up being thee preferred ca20:47
aleeredrobot, so the idea is that a project admin can define some cas to be project cas.20:47
aleeand one of those project cas to be the preferred ca20:48
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aleeif he has done so, then if a request comes in without a ca_id, then the preferred ca is selected20:48
redrobotpreferred for the project, right?  and the admin is part of the project, so why does the admin call have to be different?20:48
aleeon the other hand, if the project admin has not defined any project cas ..20:49
aleethen there is no project admin defined default ca20:49
redrobotso does a request fail in that case?20:49
aleethen if a request without a ca_id comes in, it will get either a globally defined  default ca20:50
aleeor the first configured ca20:50
redrobotfirst configured CA?20:50
aleeyeah - just like we get the first plugin for secret store ...20:50
aleefirst ca returned for first ca plugin20:51
redrobotso, there will always be an effective preferred, even if none has been set?20:51
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aleeright20:51
dave-mccowanif there is no project preferred CA defined, but there is a global-preferred ca defined:  GET /preferred/ :  project admin wants 404, to know he has to define one.  user wants to know his default CA, so he can get the cacert.20:51
redrobotdave-mccowan I would argue that a 404 is not necessary20:52
redrobotdave-mccowan the admin can see the effective peferred, and set another one if that one is not the intended one20:52
dave-mccowani can live with that20:53
aleesolf20:54
aleesold20:54
redrobotwith a few minutes left in the meeting even20:54
* dave-mccowan add to-do #10 to etherpad and assigned self20:54
aleeredrobot, just enough time for you to +2/W that CR20:54
redrobotalee lol, I'm half way through the review... got interrupted by this meeting :)20:54
woodster_So admin will see global preferred as a minimum right?20:55
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redrobotwoodster_ GET /cas/preferred will always return a CA20:55
aleewoodster_, if defined20:55
aleeif not , the first configured20:55
dave-mccowanat a minimum, admin will see the first create CA20:55
dave-mccowan404 only if there are no CAs at all20:55
dave-mccowanhmmm.... can there be a project without access to any CAs, if there are CAs?20:56
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aleedave-mccowan, no - but having access and having  cert requests being approved are two different things entirely20:57
dave-mccowanredrobot i'll add the agreed change to the next CR20:57
redrobotdave-mccowan sounds good20:57
aleedave-mccowan, but having a project with no cas is an interesting idea20:58
redrobotand that's all we have time for this week20:58
redrobotalee interesting.... for mitaka! :)20:58
aleeyes20:58
redrobotthanks everyone!20:58
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