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matrohonhi all15:02
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matrohonhi pcarver, tmorin is not here today, I'm going to hold the meeting15:04
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matrohonwaiting one minute more for people to join15:05
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matrohon#startmeeting bgpvpn15:05
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug  4 15:05:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is matrohon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:05
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:05
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matrohonok so no bing annoucement for me today, except taht I'm going to chair the meeting since tmorin is in vacation for 3 weeks15:06
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matrohonwe decided to keep the spec under the neutron-spec repo untill we have our first release15:07
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matrohonwe will move the spec to the bgpvpn repo and we will update it according to what is shipped with the first release15:08
svinotahi all15:08
matrohonhi svinota15:08
matrohonpcarver, svinota : any announcement ?15:09
svinotanope.15:09
pcarvernothing from me. I think I've reviewed everything I'm aware of.15:10
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matrohon#info : the implementation of the opencontrail driver has begun : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202806/15:10
matrohon#undo15:11
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matrohon#topic announcement15:11
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matrohon#info : the implementation of the opencontrail driver has begun : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202806/15:11
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matrohon#info : tmorin has started to introduce a policy.json for bgpvpn : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207914/15:12
matrohon#info : matrohon is working on the API split : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207371/15:13
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matrohon#info : svinota is working od RD attribute addition : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206536/15:14
matrohoncan we discuss this attribute here svinota?15:14
svinotamatrohon, yep15:15
matrohon#topic RD Attribute15:15
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matrohonso as I reviewed, I'm concerned since not every driver will support this attribute15:16
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svinotayep. And thus the driver can ignore it15:16
matrohonthis gone lead to an unexpected behavior if the user specifies a RD : the driver won't use it but the end user expect the driver to use it15:17
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svinotaso we have a simple choice15:18
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svinotaeither to raise an exception, or to have a capabilities discovery + exception15:18
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matrohonthe capabilities discovery seems cleaner and such a framework already exists : it is the extension framework15:19
svinotathe exception is required anyway, since the user (or UI) may ignore the discovery, if I understand this correctly15:19
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matrohonI think the exception framework will automatically generate an exception if the user want to use an attribute extension that is not supported by the implementation15:20
svinotamatrohon, so then I'm to implement the discovery15:20
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svinotashould not be too hard, I hope15:21
matrohoncool15:21
matrohonI don't think it's very hard, we can look at that together15:21
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matrohonit's just an extension of the bgpvpnconnection object15:22
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svinotaok, thanks15:22
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svinotaI will try to do it and submit to review.15:23
matrohon#action : svinoto to work on an extension concerning the RD attribute15:23
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matrohonthis kind of attribute extension may also be used to scan the "technique" parameter15:25
matrohonnot sure if it's a good idea, but this option is also backend dependent15:26
matrohonwe'll see once the RD attribute extension will exist15:27
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matrohonwe gone have a better idea of what is possible with the attribute extensions framework15:27
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matrohon#topic Tests15:28
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matrohonI really want to improve the test coverage of the bgpvpn code15:28
matrohonthis will help debugging and CI15:29
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matrohonI'm trying to learn from existing project (vpnaas, etc...) but the unit test framework in neutron is quite tricky15:29
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matrohon#action : matrohon to work on test coverage improvment15:30
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matrohon#topic open discussion15:31
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matrohonanybody wants to discuss something about bgpvpn15:31
matrohon?15:31
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matrohonok, pcarver, svinota, thanks for attending the meeting15:32
matrohon#endmeeting15:33
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svinotamatrohon, 10x15:35
matrohonsvinota : yep15:35
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adrian_otto#startmeeting containers16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug  4 16:00:08 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
adrian_otto#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-08-04_1600_UTC Our Agenda16:00
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adrian_otto#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-08-04_1600_UTC Our Agenda16:00
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adrian_otto#topic Roll Call16:00
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adrian_ottoAdrian Otto16:00
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TangoTon Ngo16:00
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adrian_ottohello jjlehr, Tango, rpothier, mfalatic, brendenblanco, fawadkhaliq, dane_leblanc, jjfreric, and eghobo16:03
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daneyonhere16:03
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adrian_ottohello daneyon. Let's begin.16:04
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adrian_otto#topic Announcements16:04
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adrian_otto1) Our Midcycle Meetup happens this week (tomorrow and Thursday). If you are attending in person, don't forget to register:16:04
adrian_otto#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Magnum/Midcycle Midcycle Information16:04
adrian_ottoquestions about the location, attendance, etc?16:04
adrian_otto2) adrian_otto will be out on 2015-08-25 due to travel to OpenStack Silicon Valley event. An alternate chair is needed for our team meeting on that day.16:05
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adrian_ottoI will be in the air at the time we are scheduled to meet, and chairing from in-flight wifi = bad idea.16:06
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adrian_ottoif you can help out with that, please ping me about it. Otherwise I'll follow up on this during our Midcycle or at our next week meeting16:06
daneyonadrian_otto would you like me to address this topic or someone from neutron: Network: Neutron integration - Kuryr/flannel remote driver for libnetwork, flannel bridged mode16:06
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adrian_ottoif you'd like to address that briefly16:07
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adrian_otto#topic Container Networking Subteam Update16:07
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adrian_ottoyou can do it now16:07
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daneyonOK, I just wanted to make sure I'm on the hook for the presenation.16:08
adrian_otto#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/container_networking/2015/container_networking.2015-07-30-18.00.html previous Container Networking Subteam Meeting Minutes16:08
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daneyonWe are starting to work with the kuryr team. Here is an therpad for our initial brainstorming: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-kuryr16:08
adrian_ottodaneyon, we need to sort out the remote presentation logistics today. Let's plan to regroup with Tango to sort that out16:09
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daneyonGal and/or Mestery will be attending the net subteam meeting later this week.16:09
adrian_ottogood, some high bandwidth discussion should help to advance us16:10
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daneyonI updated the networking spec and I think we now have support of the neutron/kuryr team. I'm in the process of making a few final updates and it should be done16:10
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daneyonadrian_otto sounds good re the remote logistics. It's pretty easy with webex.16:10
adrian_ottoI'd like to offer guidance for those of us here today, that if you vote -1 against a spec patch, please make your vote actionable. INdicate what exactly should change in order for you to reverse your vote.16:10
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adrian_ottobut simply voting against a spec with the equivalent of "I don't like it" is not as helpful as an actionable remark.16:11
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jjfrericI agree, there's nothing more annoying than a -1 without a way to fix it16:11
daneyonadrian_otto thx for adding that info. All, please take some time to cast your vote on the spec. It will be great to get the spec through and start the work to realize it.16:11
adrian_ottouse in-line comments to be specific.16:11
adrian_otto#link https://review.openstack.org/204686 Magnum Container Networking Spec16:12
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adrian_ottoalso keep in mind that a spec is also a living document, so if we want to revise it after merge, that's still possible.16:12
daneyonthx to everyone for your participation and support with the net spec16:12
adrian_ottothe reason for that is so we don't spend too much time making it "perfect" before getting people working on it16:13
daneyonany net specific questions?16:13
daneyonI encourage everyone to take a few minutes to check out the initial kuryr design: https://github.com/openstack/kuryr/blob/master/doc/source/design.rst16:13
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daneyon#link https://github.com/openstack/kuryr/blob/master/doc/source/design.rst16:13
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adrian_ottooh, that's new.16:14
daneyonunless their are any questions, i'll hand it back to adrian_otto16:14
daneyonadrian_otto, it is, I just did my first initial review and digesting the info.16:14
adrian_ottoThanks daneyon16:14
daneyonwe will disuss the design in more detail during our net subteam meeting16:15
adrian_otto#topic Magnum UI Subteam Update16:15
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daneyonadrian_otto yw16:15
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adrian_ottoanyone working on this?16:15
adrian_ottoBradley Jones is not present today, is he?16:15
adrian_ottomy key concern is that we don't have any blueprints here yet:16:16
adrian_ottohttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum-ui16:16
TangoI have asked 2 core members from Horizon to join the UI discussion during the midcycle.  They should be able to discuss more.16:17
adrian_otto#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-horizon-plugin Web Interface for Magnum in Horizon16:17
adrian_ottothat seems to have no activity either.16:17
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bradjonesadrian_otto: I am here16:17
adrian_ottooh wait16:17
bradjonesI have a list of BPs to add, I have been away past few days, will add them later today16:17
adrian_otto#link https://review.openstack.org/188958 Web Interface for Magnum in Horizon16:17
adrian_ottohi bradjones!16:18
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bradjonesI have been working on BayModel too, should be up for review shortly16:18
adrian_ottook, so will you be able to join us next Tuesdat at 2200 UTC for a subsequent update?16:18
bradjonesadrian_otto: sure will be there16:19
adrian_ottoIf we are going to get this in during the Liberty release timeframe, we need to get rolling on it16:19
bradjonesadrian_otto: agreed16:19
adrian_ottook, thanks16:19
adrian_otto#topic Review Action Items16:19
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adrian_ottonow last meeting was chaired by juggler, and he went a little cookoo with action items16:19
adrian_ottobut let's rush through these16:20
adrian_otto1) Libnetwork team / daneyon to coordinate meeting for possible integration solution16:20
adrian_ottoStatus?16:20
daneyonthe kuryr team will be joining our regular subteam meeting to discuss16:20
daneyon#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Container_Networking_Subteam_Meeting16:20
adrian_ottothis may be obviated my Midcycle discussions, right?16:20
daneyonit's on the agenda16:20
adrian_ottoStatus: obviated16:20
adrian_otto2) daneyon to update the wiki for net subteam meeting16:20
adrian_ottoStatus:16:21
adrian_ottocomplete, I think16:21
daneyonand an ep has been created to assist with brainstorming the integration details16:21
daneyon#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-kuryr16:21
adrian_ottoI saw an update there. Was it the update this action refers to?16:21
daneyonyes, both are complete16:21
adrian_ottothanks daneyon16:21
adrian_ottoStatus: complete16:21
adrian_otto3) apmelton to review snakeoil plugin and assist madhuri with integration16:21
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adrian_ottoStatus: unknown16:22
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adrian_otto4) adrian_otto to table Hyper discussion to the ML or MidCycle16:22
adrian_ottoStatus: complete16:22
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adrian_otto5) sdake/tcammann to sync up on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/objects-from-bay at MidCycle16:22
adrian_otto#action sdake/tcammann to sync up on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/objects-from-bay at MidCycle16:22
adrian_otto6) implement TLS and non-TLS support with insecure off by default16:23
apmeltonhey yall, sorry for being late16:23
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adrian_ottoThis should have been recorded as an #agreed rather than an #action16:23
adrian_otto#agreed from 2015-07-28 team meeting: implement TLS and non-TLS support with insecure off by default16:24
adrian_otto7) establish tech debt ticket to remove insecure option16:24
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adrian_ottoThis was not assigned to anyone. Any volunteers?16:24
adrian_ottoor maybe this got done and I have not noticed?16:24
adrian_otto#action adrian_otto to open tech debt ticket to remove insecure option16:24
adrian_otto8) Add Magnum UI update section to the agenda for future meetings16:25
adrian_ottoStatus: complete16:25
adrian_otto9) All: Record MidCycle topics prior to the MidCycle: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-liberty-midcycle-topics16:25
adrian_ottoStatus: Informational.16:25
adrian_otto10) Contact adrian_otto for MidCycle agenda discussion topics via e-mail16:25
adrian_ottoStatus: Informational, obviated by etherpad.16:25
adrian_ottoapmelton, do you have remarks for #3:16:25
adrian_otto3) apmelton to review snakeoil plugin and assist madhuri with integration16:25
apmeltonyea, I'd say it's started, but not complete16:26
apmeltonhad a heck of a time trying to get barbican going with devstack, but it's going now16:26
adrian_ottoStatus: Started16:26
adrian_ottoI will carry it forward for next week16:26
adrian_otto#action apmelton to review snakeoil plugin and assist madhuri with integration16:26
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apmeltonsounds good, I'm gonna try to have as much info as I can for the tls session(s) at the mid-cycle16:26
adrian_ottoThanks apmelton16:27
adrian_ottoAny questions or concerns about any of the action items from last week?16:27
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adrian_otto#topic Blueprint/Bug Review16:27
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adrian_ottoNew Blueprints for Discussion16:27
adrian_ottoTeam members may nominate new blueprints for discussion so they may be processed.16:27
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adrian_ottoso if you have a BP in status "New" that you'd like to be considered for the current release (and you are coming with engineering resources to get it done) this is the place to raise it for consideration.16:28
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adrian_ottook, so last week we talked about getting status for all the essential BP's on a wiki or etherpad that could be referenced at meeting time..16:28
adrian_ottoI did not coordinate that this week, sorry.16:29
adrian_ottowould you like to step through these?16:29
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adrian_ottoif not, I'll pause for a moment, and you can ask about the ones you are interested in16:30
adrian_ottoI'm interested in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/external-lb16:30
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TangoI can give some update16:31
adrian_ottoWork Items section in the BP shows every work item as INPROGRESS or TODO16:31
adrian_ottocan any of those be marked complete?16:31
TangoPreviously I mentioned about 2 issues:  image problem and debugging k8s16:32
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Tangothe image problem has been resolved and I made the image/patches available for others to try k8s v116:32
TangoI have been debugging the backend, going through the logs and go code16:33
TangoI tried the google container IRC and ML, but could not get much help there16:33
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TangoNow it's down to plowing through the code and adding more logging to see the error16:33
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TangoI will update the items on the bp16:34
adrian_ottothanks, it would be great if we could keep those essential BPs updated regularly so we can peek in there and see what's happening16:34
Tangoyep, will do16:34
adrian_ottothanks16:35
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adrian_ottook, any other essential blueprints that made forward progress this week?16:35
adrian_ottoI know there was movement on our TLS/CA efforts16:35
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adrian_ottoperhaps we'll hear more about that at the MIdcycle16:37
adrian_ottolet's look at the midcycle agenda topics16:37
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adrian_otto#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-liberty-midcycle-topics Midcycle Agenda16:37
adrian_otto#topic Midcycle Agenda Planning16:37
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adrian_ottoit might be nice to do a team retrospective for the first half of the liberty release16:39
adrian_ottodiscuss things like: How are we doing as a team? What should we start/stop/continue to make the team more effective, or more engaging to be part of?16:39
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Tango+116:39
apmeltonagreed, I think that'd be a good idea16:40
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adrian_ottohas anyone volunteered to give the Mesos bay type update?16:41
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adrian_ottoI don't think Hongbin is attending, is he?16:42
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TangoHe is coming to the midcycle, en route right now16:42
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adrian_ottohe is on the registration list16:44
adrian_ottook, good, Tango16:44
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adrian_ottolet's put names on each of these16:45
adrian_ottowho can speak to ironic integration?16:45
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adrian_ottohttps://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/magnum/templates/heat-kubernetes/kubecluster-fedora-ironic.yaml16:46
adrian_ottohas three contributors16:46
adrian_ottoI'll volunteer Hongbin16:46
adrian_ottook, that looks good enough for now16:47
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adrian_ottofeel free to make additional agenda suggestions in the etherpad16:47
adrian_ottoI will do my best to fit everything in16:47
adrian_ottoI did plan in "Parking Lot" time to discuss topics that come up in the coarse of our day16:48
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adrian_ottocorse16:48
adrian_ottospelling today, sheesh.16:48
adrian_ottoc o u r s e16:48
adrian_otto#topic Open Discussion16:49
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daneyonany updated on when the goog team will start participating?16:49
daneyonupdates16:49
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adrian_ottodaneyon: good question16:50
adrian_ottoI'll follow up with them right now16:50
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daneyonok, thx16:51
suro-patzdon't we have a conflict of Network sub-team meeting and mid-cycle day2? Do we have a plan to merge?16:51
suro-patzdaneyon: adrian_otto: ^^16:52
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sdakemorning16:52
adrian_ottohi sdake!16:52
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adrian_ottoI wanted to check to see if you are wiling to chair our team meeting on 2015-08-25?16:53
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adrian_ottoI will be traveling in order to attend OpenStack Silicon Valley16:53
adrian_ottooh, I will be giving a Magnum update in the keynotes at that event.16:53
adrian_ottohopefully that gets recorded on youtube somewhere.16:54
jjfreric^ Looking forward to that!16:54
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adrian_otto#link http://sched.co/3nvy Containers: A Rapid-Fire Reality Check16:55
adrian_ottojjfreric: will you be in our audience?16:57
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jjfrericRemote, yes :)16:57
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daneyon2 min warning16:58
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jjfrericI'll be in and out throughout the day. I couldn't shake the daily commitments :)16:58
daneyonsuro-patz let me double check the schedules and i'll make changes if needed.16:59
adrian_ottotime for us to wrap up16:59
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adrian_ottoour next team meeting is 2015-08-11 at 2200 UTC. See you then!16:59
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adrian_otto#endmeeting16:59
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apmeltono/ see y'all tomorrow!17:00
kzaitsev_mbsergmelikyan: you or I ? =)17:00
sergmelikyan#startmeeting murano17:00
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kzaitsev_mbok =)17:00
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sergmelikyanHi folks o/17:00
kzaitsev_mbtoday's agenda is available at #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda/Archive/2015-08-04/17:00
xiangxinyonghi everyone!17:00
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Nikolay_St\o/17:01
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kzaitsev_mbsergmelikyan: is ativelkov coming, btw17:02
FilipBlahaHi17:02
sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: I am not sure :) He is in Israel...17:02
kzaitsev_mbok, thought you're in touch. seems like no then17:03
freerunnero/17:03
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sergmelikyan#topic Action Items Review17:03
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sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: I am it touch with him but not like each minute :)17:03
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sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: #1kzaitsev_mb as soon as yaql and muranopl is ready — write an email to encourage murano team and murano users to test new yaql17:04
sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: I think all commits are on review but not yet merged17:04
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kzaitsev_mbyep, just today =)17:05
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sergmelikyanWe have a lots of people interested in YAQL, I guess we can send e-mail encouraging people to take a look before merge17:05
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kzaitsev_mb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208679/ the yaql commit, that according to stan is like rc1 (or is it 2?)17:06
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kzaitsev_mband a #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204099/ engine, ported to yaql 1.017:06
kzaitsev_mbI'll reschedule the AI17:07
kzaitsev_mb#action kzaitsev_mb write an email to encourage murano team and murano users to test new yaql17:08
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sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: why?17:08
kzaitsev_mbwhat why? cause I have not written the email yet. cause the commits were only ready today. =)17:09
sergmelikyanWe can send e-mail anyway as I already send, or you think we should send 2 e-mails?17:09
kzaitsev_mboh17:09
kzaitsev_mb#undo17:09
kzaitsev_mbok17:09
sergmelikyan*/send/said17:09
kzaitsev_mbsaid or send?17:09
kzaitsev_mbthat makes a looot of difference17:09
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sergmelikyansaid )17:10
Nikolay_St:)17:10
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kzaitsev_mbso I have to send an email17:10
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kzaitsev_mblet's add a AI for it, won't we?17:10
sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: sure :)17:10
kzaitsev_mb#action kzaitsev_mb write an email to encourage murano team and murano users to test new yaql17:10
sergmelikyanI thought you've decided to postpone it17:10
sergmelikyan#topic Migrating to YAQL 1.017:11
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kzaitsev_mbwell if everything is nearly ready — we can move the discussion to ML17:11
sergmelikyanI guess we had update from kzaitsev_mb, but my be Stan have something to add17:11
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kzaitsev_mbi've just pinged Stan and he's en route somewhere, promised to be here later17:11
sergmelikyanbut I guess he is not here17:11
sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: thx17:12
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sergmelikyanWe also can skip topic about artifact repo because Alex is also not attendence todays17:13
kzaitsev_mbativelkov: is not here either, so the 2d topic yeah =(17:13
sergmelikyan#topic Stable jobs17:13
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sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: :)17:13
kzaitsev_mbso yeah. my patch to infra has been merged17:14
kzaitsev_mband we now have stable jobs running periodically17:15
kzaitsev_mbthey run everyday (AFAIR the config)17:15
kzaitsev_mbif they fail — they write a letter to #link http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-stable-maint17:15
sergmelikyanI've already subscribed ;)17:16
kzaitsev_mbso if you're interested in monitoring and helping out with stable branches — subscribe to the list.17:16
Daviey\o/17:17
kzaitsev_mbWould probably require some filters, since all stuff write there (horizon, nova, etc.)17:17
kzaitsev_mbI'll also write a letter to ML 'bout the jobs, so that folks, who're missing today would also know =)17:18
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sergmelikyanDaviey: o/17:18
kzaitsev_mbthat's all I really had to say about stable jobs =)17:18
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sergmelikyan#action kzaitsev_mb write e-mail about stable jobs17:19
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kzaitsev_mbslagun: hi! =)17:19
sergmelikyan#topic Open Discussion17:19
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slagunhi!17:19
slagunsorry for being late17:19
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sergmelikyanslagun: looks like kzaitsev_mb covered question about YAQL migration, anything to add?17:20
kzaitsev_mbsergmelikyan: slagun maybe we'll switch to YAQL before Open Discussion? =)17:20
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sergmelikyanI hope we will finish migration during this week17:21
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slagunnew engine should be fully functional at the moment17:22
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slagunIt passes all unit tests and I managed to deploy complex k8s topology with it17:22
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slagunthough I need to fix pep817:24
sergmelikyanslagun: I really liked unit-tests coverage17:24
sergmelikyanon the commits with yaql17:24
kzaitsev_mbso our next steps: would be release new yaql, notify mistral guys, test new engine, release yaql 1.0, merge all the things. Right? =)17:24
sergmelikyanyup17:24
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slagunyes. My suggestion to release yaql rc2 as soon as all yaql commits got merged and test with rc2. If there won't be any yaql issues then rc2 will became the release. Otherwise there will be rc317:25
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kzaitsev_mbNice. So we have to ping sergmelikyan and ativelkov to review yaql patches, cause I guess the're the ones with +2 on that repo )17:26
sergmelikyanI've already did that btw17:26
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slagunIts a chain of 6 commits :)17:27
slagunAnd I already have some code that is going to find its way into yaql 1.117:27
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kzaitsev_mboh boy =)17:28
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kzaitsev_mbok, so on an unrelated note: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208145/ this is the last commit, that would make our new js linting job green.17:28
kzaitsev_mbthanks a lot to xiangxinyong for doing most of linting work =)17:28
xiangxinyongkzaitsev_mb:you are welcome17:29
kzaitsev_mbI have a question though — should we make it voting after we merge this one?17:29
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Nikolay_Stkzaitsev_mb: if it works good - why not?17:30
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kzaitsev_mbwell, yeah guess a broken js job would result in a -1 from other reviewers anyway17:31
kzaitsev_mbso, I guess I'll make a commit, that makes it voting as soon as the patch lands =)17:31
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kzaitsev_mbNikolay_St: you wanted to say smth about the logs, right?17:32
Nikolay_Stkzaitsev_mb: yeah, thanks for the notice17:32
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Nikolay_Stguys, as you may know we merged a logging spec for murano last week17:33
Nikolay_St#link http://murano-specs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/specs/liberty/murano-log-guildelines.html17:33
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Nikolay_Stplease try to follow it in the new commits and update patches on review close to it17:33
kzaitsev_mbagree on that one )17:34
Nikolay_StI work on the existing code and will try to commit changes in 1-2 days17:34
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Nikolay_Stalso, in the near future we might need to update it as soon as TRACE level is introduced in the newest oslo.log version17:35
slagunI'm going to use trace for new engine method invocation logging as soon as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208702/ gets merged17:36
Nikolay_Stso, that's all from my side. thx for attention) if you have any question about log you reach me on #murano :)17:36
Nikolay_Stslagun: nice17:36
Nikolay_StI need to take a look at the major OpenStack logging spec to be sure how we should use trace in murano17:37
Nikolay_Sthave no time yet :(17:37
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kzaitsev_mbNikolay_St: requirements are already updated by the bot ) so we'll have 1.8 log library really soon )17:38
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Nikolay_Stkzaitsev_mb: I know) I just need some time to update the spec. I'll do it on Thursday, I suppose. after next log wg meeting17:40
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xiangxinyongI have a question. Do we have mid cycle meeting?17:42
Nikolay_Stsergmelikyan: ^^17:43
Nikolay_Stkzaitsev_mb: ^^17:43
sergmelikyanxiangxinyong: no, this time we don't have midcycle summit but we can orginize call if needed17:43
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sergmelikyanif you have topic to discuss, we can schedule video-conference call17:44
xiangxinyongsergmelikyan: understood. Thanks17:44
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kzaitsev_mbshould we wrap up? =)17:45
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sergmelikyanlooks like so :)17:47
sergmelikyanAny other topics to discuss folks?17:47
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Nikolay_Stnope17:48
sergmelikyan#endmeeting17:48
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Nikolay_Stbye!17:49
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xiangxinyongbye17:49
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sputnik13#startmeeting cue18:01
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sputnik13role call18:01
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davideagnellohere18:01
sputnik13o/18:01
vipulo/18:01
dkallego/18:01
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sputnik13actions18:03
sputnik13#topic Action Items18:03
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sputnik13oh yay, they're all for me18:03
sputnik13#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-07-21-18.01.html18:04
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sputnik13#info AI #1 sputnik13 to fill in details for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/kafka18:04
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sputnik13kicking that can a little further down the road18:04
sputnik13#action sputnik13 to fill in details for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/kafka18:04
sputnik13#info AI #2 sputnik13 to follow up on confirming https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/142930418:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1429304 in Cue "Error 400 Bad Request when adding a limit to the cluster list URL" [Medium,Incomplete] - Assigned to Steve Leon (steve-leon)18:05
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1429304 in cue "Error 400 Bad Request when adding a limit to the cluster list URL" [Medium,Incomplete]18:05
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1429304 in cue "Error 400 Bad Request when adding a limit to the cluster list URL" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142930418:05
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sputnik13kicking this one down the road too...18:05
sputnik13#action sputnik13 to follow up on confirming https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/142930418:05
sputnik13#info AI #3 sputnik13 to file a BP for user defined credentials for brokers18:05
esmute_sputnik13: i have to fix this bug :P18:06
sputnik13BP was filed18:06
sputnik13#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/custom-default-user18:06
vipulesmute_: so it's indeed a bug?18:06
sputnik13esmute_: the action was for me to verify it...  I was actually just going to talk to you :)18:06
vipulhow does the dashboard work18:06
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davideagnellolooks more like a feature of the api18:07
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esmute_the dashboard has the ability to send filter parameters18:08
sputnik13davideagnello it's a bug if the dashboard breaks18:08
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vipulare we just hacking the dashbaord to remove those?18:08
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esmute_so when there is no filter, it sends an empty parameters.. and i think cue api doesnt handle that18:08
* esmute_ is looking at the code18:09
vipulesmute_: i think the main quesiton is if this is actually a bug breaking the dashboard today or not18:09
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esmute_it is not breaking the dashboard18:09
vipulesmute_: if it's not breaking.. then the real fix is to implement pagination to our api18:09
sputnik13which is then a feature no longer a bug18:10
esmute_i need to see what i did to circumvent this issue18:10
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vipulok.. can you add that as a comment to the issue18:10
sputnik13so you're saying there is a fix right now18:10
sputnik13and things are not broken18:10
esmute_sputnik13: more like a subclass/override in horizon18:10
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sputnik13esmute_: however graceful or hacky the fix is, dashboard is not broken at this time?18:11
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esmute_but it is not the right way to do this... the right way is for cue api to handle these filters params, which are typically handled in all openstack api18:11
esmute_sputnik13: no.. dashboard is not broken18:11
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esmute_i found this bug when i was working on the dashboard a few months back18:12
vipulyea we need a blueprint for adding pagination..18:12
sputnik13ok, then this should be a feature for the api18:12
davideagnelloexactly18:12
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sputnik13I will reclasiffy it as wishlist...  please add a blueprint and add a link to it in the bug18:13
esmute_it could be a bug because horizon assumes the api handles filter params18:13
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esmute_i am ok labelling a bug but a really low priority one18:13
esmute_at least for the case to handle these params from horizon18:13
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vipulwe have a workaround.. and it likely could be solved more completely by a feature18:14
sputnik13it's not a bug if there isn't a defect18:14
esmute_after looking at the code, the workaround im using is importing keystone client directly18:14
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esmute_and not use the provided client frameworok/library within horizon18:14
vipulok moving on?18:15
davideagnelloso a bug in our panel and feature in our api?18:15
esmute_oopps not keystoneclient... cueclient18:16
sputnik13it's not a bug in the panel, the panel works18:16
sputnik13yes let's move on, we're talking this to death18:16
sputnik13next on the agenda is discussion topics...18:16
esmute_the panel works because im using the client directly rather than the using the provided framework18:16
esmute_but year..18:16
esmute_yeah..18:16
sputnik13#topic Discussion Topics18:16
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sputnik13do we have any topics to discuss?18:17
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sputnik13we have 4 or 5 talks submitted specifically for Cue, anyone know when we find out the results?18:17
sputnik13seems like tallying the votes should be automatic, why don't they have result pretty much the same day?18:17
vipuli'm sure it'll be a while18:18
vipullike every other time18:18
sputnik13and like every other time people are probably wondering why it takes so long18:18
sputnik13meh...18:19
sputnik13no topics?18:19
sputnik13let's move on to bugs then18:19
sputnik13#info no topics this week18:19
esmute_dkalleg is working on changing the status check for rabbitmq18:19
esmute_dkalleg: do you want to talk a bit about it?18:20
dkallegYup, I believe its working, just looking into an integration test failure.18:20
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sputnik13doh, how do you redact items from the log18:20
vipuldkalleg: what user are we checking the status with18:20
vipuldidn't we talk about creating a monitoring user at some point18:20
esmute_dkalleg: do you have a bug associated to this work?18:21
sputnik13it's not a bug18:21
esmute_sputnik13: is there a BP then?18:21
esmute_i just want something with some information to understand the problem and the fix18:21
sputnik13https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/status18:21
dkallegSo while taskflow is creating a cluster, I've added a task that will use RMQs rest api to use its management plugin to run an aliveness test.18:22
sputnik13dkalleg: can you fill in some information in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/status18:22
sputnik13and link your patch to that18:22
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sputnik13make sure it's a partial-implement18:22
davideagnellowe would need to add the periodic checks18:22
sputnik13since the BP is for ongoing status, a more accurate status for initial boot is related18:23
dkallegesmute_: its not a bug, the feature isn't ready yet18:23
sputnik13since we'd likely use the same checks except on a periodic basis18:23
davideagnelloyes18:23
vipulyea we need to get better about filing BPs and actually filling them out :D18:23
sputnik13right we're doing the filing18:23
sputnik13not so much on the filling18:23
sputnik13it's a one letter difference how hard could it be?! ;)18:24
vipuldkalleg: you got this?18:24
dkallegvipul: Yes18:24
sputnik13#action dkalleg to provide details in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/status regarding more accurate rabbitmq status check18:25
sputnik13other topics?18:25
vipulwhat's going on with Rally gate18:25
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sputnik13#topic Rally gate18:25
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sputnik13davideagnello?18:26
sputnik13err doh, that should have been info, meh whatever18:26
vipultopic is correct18:26
davideagnelloyes, there is a patch in openstack infra that is currently out.  it's failing a layout test.  need to find out why my changes are causing this issue18:26
davideagnello#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201285/218:27
esmute_ill work with davideagnelloto to help him with this layout issue18:27
sputnik13vipul: too bad you can't do nested topics, we're in the "discussion topic" portion of the meeting, this is arguably a sub-topic :)18:27
davideagnellook, thanks esmute_18:27
vipulhttp://logs.openstack.org/85/201285/8/check/gate-project-config-layout/5dfef14/console.html#_2015-07-31_20_23_09_65918:27
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vipulit's probably because we use a job template.. and maybe need to name the job corectly in layout.yml18:28
vipulesmute_: thanks..18:28
vipuldavideagnello: esmute_ let's try to get this working asap18:28
vipulit's been a while18:28
davideagnelloit is named correctly18:28
sputnik13why is it gate-rally-dsvm-cue-cue?18:28
sputnik13should be gate-rally-dsvm-{name}18:29
davideagnellothat's what the name in template, name is replaced with cue, like other services use the same pattern18:29
esmute_actually should be should be gate-rally-dsvm-cue-{name}18:29
esmute_name=<broker>18:29
esmute_so we can run this job with different broker in the future18:30
vipulhmm.. in layout.yml you don't parameterize things18:30
sputnik13that seems silly to have cue-cue18:30
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vipulthen the job template needs to change18:30
esmute_davideagnello: look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180774/18:31
sputnik13cue-<broker> makes sense18:31
esmute_this is how i configured it for the tempest test18:31
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vipulesmute_: i agree with that..18:31
vipulwe may need to rename our scenarios then18:32
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vipulif we want to use the {name} for the scenario file too18:32
davideagnelloour scenario test file, which conforms to the rest of the services naming is service-rally.yaml18:32
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esmute_looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180774/3/zuul/layout.yaml,cm, im appending the broker name in the job18:32
vipuldavideagnello: couldn't we have rabbitmq-scenarios.yml?18:32
vipulso that we can have kafka-scenarios.yaml in the future?18:33
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davideagnellowe can18:33
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vipulesmute_, davideagnello: can you guys sync up and fix this..?18:34
davideagnelloyes18:34
esmute_yep18:34
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sputnik13#action davideagnello and esmute_  to resolve issues with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20128518:35
sputnik13other topics?18:35
sputnik13bugs?18:36
vipulpython3?18:36
vipulanyone want to take a stab at getting things working with python3?18:36
davideagnellowhat working?18:36
davideagnellocue?18:36
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vipulcue.. tests..18:36
sputnik13is that a trick question? :)18:36
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sputnik13"want" :)18:37
vipuleveryone's doing it ;)18:37
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vipulthink of it as a side pet-project ;)18:37
sputnik13the silence is deafening18:37
esmute_haha18:37
vipulnext person to say something takes it18:38
esmute_vipul: is openstack pushing this on us?18:38
esmute_crap18:38
vipulesmute_: it is!18:38
sputnik13can we add python 3 as a tox env and make it none-voting?18:38
sputnik13esmute_ just volunteered didn't he18:38
vipulesmute_: openstack is going this way..18:38
vipulhe did18:38
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esmute_haha ok18:39
sputnik13esmute_ you rock18:39
sputnik13:)18:39
sputnik13we should just add python 3 as a tox environment and make it non-voting (if that's possible)18:39
vipulesmute_: not critical path.. it might be as simple as adding a new tox env18:39
vipulsputnik13: yep18:39
sputnik13then the gate jobs will just tell us if/when it's broken18:39
sputnik13and we can fix things as we go18:39
esmute_yeah.. probably going start there18:39
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vipulit's possible the python-jobs job template already makes py3 non-voting/18:40
vipulnot sure18:40
sputnik13#topic python318:40
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sputnik13#action esmute_ to add a non-voting python3 check to CI18:40
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sputnik13other topics18:41
sputnik13?18:41
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vipulesmute_: https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L30718:41
sputnik13I'd say Kafka but someone keeps slipping on that action :)18:41
esmute_ok18:42
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vipulesmute_: lots of projects already gating on it18:42
vipulso just look at waht they did18:42
sputnik13all of oslo is doing it, but it's voting in oslo18:43
sputnik13moving on to bugs then?18:43
vipulif we get it working.. i don't mind making it voting18:43
vipulnot reason not to18:43
sputnik13right, once we get it working18:43
esmute_yeah.18:43
esmute_i wont check it in until it works anyways18:43
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vipulok sounds like we have a plan18:44
sputnik13we should just add it and make it non-voting until it works18:44
sputnik13we shouldn't have a single outstanding patch that tries to make everything work18:44
sputnik13it'll get stuck in rebase hell18:44
sputnik13well, maybe18:45
sputnik13:)18:45
vipulmaybe add a patch to the experimental pipeline now..18:45
sputnik13the what pipeline?18:45
vipuland when you submit your patch.. you can check it18:45
esmute_ok18:45
esmute_that is good too18:46
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sputnik13ok, you mean add the python 3 check to the experimental pipeline so that it runs with every subsequent patch to cue, yes?18:46
vipulright.. sputnik1318:46
vipuli didn't say that well18:46
sputnik13ok, good plan, let's move on to bugs, we have 14 minutes left18:46
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sputnik13#topic Bugs18:46
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sputnik13https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.importance%3Alist=CRITICAL&field.importance%3Alist=HIGH&field.importance%3Alist=MEDIUM&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator18:47
sputnik13=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search18:47
sputnik13wow, big link :)18:47
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sputnik13http://bit.ly/1MChDwJ18:47
sputnik13#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/143893918:48
openstackLaunchpad bug 1438939 in Cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New]18:48
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1438939 in cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New]18:48
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1438939 in cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143893918:48
vipulagree with showing as much as possilbe on a list18:48
sputnik13that's annoying, why is uvirbot doing the same thing as openstack18:48
vipulnetwork_id maybe not18:48
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sputnik13agree on the enhancements, but this is not a bug18:49
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sputnik13reclassify to wishlist, and add blueprint?18:49
vipulwishlist is fine.. i would say high priority18:49
vipulit's kind of a usability issue right now18:50
sputnik13wishlist is a "priority"18:50
vipulugh18:50
sputnik13:)18:50
davideagnelloI have resolved a cluster delete bug over a month ago, it's still in review (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196332/)  should we drop it or are we looking to merge this work?18:50
sputnik13it is what it is...  I don't feel like submitting enhancements to launchpad ;)18:50
vipulok.. wishlist and file a BP..18:51
sputnik13davideagnello can you turn that in to a BP and link the bug?18:51
sputnik13https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/143893918:51
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1438939 in cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New]18:51
openstackLaunchpad bug 1438939 in Cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Wishlist,New]18:51
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1438939 in cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143893918:51
vipuldavideagnello: sounds like we are looking to merge it.. it was rebased recently18:51
davideagnellook18:51
sputnik13yes I think I rebased it during the liberty 2 day18:52
davideagnellosputnik13: turn bug into BP?18:52
sputnik13yes, it's not a bug18:52
davideagnelloit is a bug18:52
vipulare we talking about the same bug?18:52
sputnik13we're talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/143893918:52
openstackLaunchpad bug 1438939 in Cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Wishlist,New]18:52
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1438939 in cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New]18:52
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1438939 in cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143893918:52
davideagnellohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/146982318:52
openstackLaunchpad bug 1469823 in Cue "Delete Cluster fails when Cluster contains VM's which have already been deleted" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Davide Agnello (dagnello)18:52
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1469823 in cue "Delete Cluster fails when Cluster contains VM's which have already been deleted" [High,Confirmed]18:52
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1469823 in cue "Delete Cluster fails when Cluster contains VM's which have already been deleted" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146982318:52
sputnik13davideagnello please stay with one bug at a time18:53
vipulsputnik13's link shoudl be a BP..18:53
vipulyour link is a bug18:53
davideagnellook18:53
abithawhy is it a BP and not a bug?18:54
vipulabitha: it's kind of a feature.. because we want to expose more in our CLI18:54
sputnik13abitha it's not a defect, a poor design choice is not a defect18:54
sputnik13:)18:54
sputnik13nothing is "broken", although I guess UX might argue the experience is broken18:54
sputnik13:)18:54
abithaso lot of bugs classified as wishlist seems to be features then.18:55
abithaso should we create BPs for those?18:55
vipulyea that's what wishlist is for..18:55
vipulcreate BPs.. and start pushing fixes for those BPs18:55
sputnik13right, anything we make wishlist is a feature, priority of the feature needs to be considered separately from priority of defects18:55
abithaoh ok18:56
sputnik13#action davideagnello to file a BP for https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/143893918:56
openstackLaunchpad bug 1438939 in Cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Wishlist,New]18:56
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1438939 in cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New]18:56
vipulif it's low-hanging fruit.. just fix it and push it up18:56
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1438939 in cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143893918:56
sputnik13right, as long as it actually takes only a little time18:56
sputnik13ok, next bug18:56
sputnik13we have 4 minutes18:56
vipulwe need to start looking at these during planning18:56
sputnik13vipul agreed18:57
sputnik13https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/144414018:57
openstackLaunchpad bug 1444140 in Cue "Add unit/function tests for DB Mixin classes" [Medium,New]18:57
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1444140 in cue "Add unit/function tests for DB Mixin classes" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144414018:57
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1444140 in cue "Add unit/function tests for DB Mixin classes" [Medium,New]18:57
davideagnellowe should18:57
sputnik13this one is also not a bug18:57
sputnik13changing to wishlist18:57
esmute_why not use cue-show for these extra info?18:57
vipulwait.. missing tests is a bug18:57
sputnik13is it?18:58
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vipulthis is python ;)18:58
vipulif there is no test for it.. it doesn't work18:58
sputnik13meh18:58
vipulif it aint tested.. it's broken18:58
sputnik13fine I will concede that point18:59
vipulesmute_: that's the workaround.. but it would be nice to have more info in the cue-list call18:59
sputnik13however, the product is not broken18:59
davideagnelloabout 10% cue is broken then18:59
sputnik13so it's low priority18:59
vipuldavideagnello: yep.. that is correct :D18:59
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sputnik13if cue does not use the 10% of code that is "broken" then the product isn't broken18:59
vipulif it's indirectly tested.. then we cna discuss it18:59
esmute_just 105?18:59
esmute_10%?18:59
sputnik13esmute_ we have 90% coverage19:00
vipulcoverage is one thing..19:00
vipulnot all the tests we run report coverage19:00
esmute_so generous19:00
vipultempest and rally are the examples19:00
sputnik13ok we're out of time19:00
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vipulthe only coverage report we get is via unit tests19:00
sputnik13vipul: while true I think the tempest tests we have are actually covered by our unit/functional tests19:00
sputnik13reclassify this to low, agreed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/146020819:01
openstackLaunchpad bug 1460208 in Cue "cue-manage broker add command does not return new broker id" [Medium,New]19:01
vipulyep19:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1460208 in cue "cue-manage broker add command does not return new broker id" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146020819:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1460208 in cue "cue-manage broker add command does not return new broker id" [Medium,New]19:01
sputnik13there's no functional/observable failure in the product itself19:01
vipullet's move to #openstack-cue19:01
sputnik13ok19:01
sputnik13#endmeeting19:01
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adrian_otto#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting21:01
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openstackMeeting started Tue Aug  4 21:01:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting'21:01
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adrian_otto#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-08-04_2100_UTC Our Agenda21:01
adrian_otto#topic Roll Call21:01
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adrian_ottoAdrian Otto21:01
gpilzGilbert Pilz21:02
devkulkarniDevdatta Kulkarni21:02
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adrian_ottohello gpilz, and devkulkarni21:03
devkulkarnihi adrian_otto21:03
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gpilzhello21:03
dimtruck./21:03
adrian_ottohello dimtruck21:03
james_li_james li21:03
dimtruckgood afternoon!21:03
adrian_ottohello james_li_21:03
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james_li_hello adrian_otto21:03
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datsun180bEd Cranford21:04
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adrian_ottohello datsun180b21:04
adrian_otto#topic Announcements21:04
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adrian_ottonone prepared. Any announcements form team members?21:05
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adrian_otto#topic Review Action Items21:05
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adrian_otto(none)21:05
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adrian_otto#topic Blueprint/Task Review and Discussion21:06
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adrian_otto(devkulkarni) Update on namespace migration -- Patch is approved (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201287/). Will be merged at next gerrit downtime.21:06
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devkulkarniso update on this action item21:06
devkulkarnipretty much summarized above21:06
devkulkarnithe patch has been approved21:07
james_li_nice21:07
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devkulkarnibut the actual migration from stackforge to openstack21:07
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devkulkarniwill happen whenever there is next scheduled gerrit downtime21:07
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devkulkarnithere are apparently a few manual steps that need to be done before the patch is merged21:07
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devkulkarnithe infra team takes care of that21:07
devkulkarnifrom our side, there is nothing more to be done21:07
devkulkarniwe just wait now21:08
devkulkarnithat is all on this topic21:08
datsun180bthat's great news21:08
adrian_otto(devkulkarni) Update on Vagrant setup -- Was failing due to issues in nova-docker. Is working now. Vagrant env pinned for now.21:08
devkulkarniok, so on this topic..21:08
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adrian_ottothanks for the namespace work devkulkarni21:08
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devkulkarnimy pleasure adrian_otto datsun180b21:09
devkulkarniso on vagrant..21:09
devkulkarnifrom last couple of weeks our vagrant environment had been failing21:09
adrian_otto#link https://review.openstack.org/207588 Fixing issues being encountered in devstack run21:09
devkulkarniturns out that there are at least 6 things that need to be fixed in nova-docker21:09
devkulkarniI have submitted a patch which adrian_otto has linked above21:09
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devkulkarniplease take a moment to review it whenever you get a chance21:10
devkulkarniin the mean while21:10
devkulkarniI have changed our Vagrantfile in solum-vagrant to pin to my fork of nova-docker21:10
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datsun180bglad you could distill it into those few pain points21:10
devkulkarnidatsun180b helped merge that patch21:10
devkulkarnithanks for that datsun180b21:10
adrian_ottothis might be a good time to think about Magnum as a replacement21:10
adrian_ottonova-docker is not being actively maintained21:11
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datsun180binteresting21:11
devkulkarniadrian_otto: yeah, i remember seeing some emails on the dev list21:11
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devkulkarniI thought that dims and ewindisch were still going to help move it along21:11
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devkulkarniadrian_otto: could you help us chalk up a plan of how magnum can be used instead of nova-docker?21:12
adrian_ottoboth dims and ewindisch have other priorities now21:12
adrian_ottosure, I can outline that21:13
devkulkarnihmm.. I see.21:13
adrian_ottothis probably makes sense as a blueprint or spec, or both21:13
devkulkarniagreed21:13
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devkulkarnifor now, we can continue using our vagrant environment21:13
adrian_ottobut essentially we would adjust the heat template to use a Magnum resource rather than the current OS::Server resource21:13
devkulkarniah I see21:14
devkulkarnimakes sense21:14
adrian_ottocreate a bay, and then put containers on that bay.21:14
devkulkarniand the bay creation is handled by heat as well?21:14
devkulkarnior the bay has to be created before (out-of-band)21:14
adrian_ottoMagnum already has scalable bays, so this could also be used for apps that want to run with a scaled app tier.21:14
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adrian_ottoyes, when you create a bay, Magnum uses Heat to create the nova instances needed for that21:15
devkulkarniinteresting21:15
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adrian_ottoco conceptually you have this "bay" which acts like a scalable "server"21:15
adrian_ottothat you can put containers on. If you use the Swarm bay type, then it has a Docker API21:16
devkulkarniso the magnum resource in heat is for bay creation + container placement21:16
adrian_ottobays are composed of 1 or more nova instances21:16
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adrian_ottoand that number can be scaled on the fy21:17
adrian_otto*fly21:17
devkulkarniinteresting21:17
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devkulkarniI need to read up on the magnum resource in heat. any good pointers that you can suggest for this adrian_otto?21:17
adrian_ottogood question. Let me ask.21:18
adrian_ottothat should be in our docs, but it's not there yet.21:18
devkulkarnimuraliaa you should propose solum-magnum integration spec ;)21:19
dimtruck:) +121:19
devkulkarnis/muraliaa/muralia1/21:19
adrian_otto+121:19
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adrian_ottomuralia1: I'm happy to help you with that21:19
dimtrucklooking at that project, it's the next logical step for us21:19
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dimtruckseems like his internet gave out21:20
devkulkarnidimtruck: how much of understanding/insights you have gotten into magnum?21:20
dimtruckjust initial foray21:20
dimtruckprobably < 1 week of actually looking at code21:20
dimtruckbut everything around it looks like a logical progression of solum -> heat -> magnum21:20
dimtruckimo21:21
devkulkarniso yest. you were mentioning that the work that james_li did for securing our worker could potentially be done by magnum21:21
dimtruckyup!21:21
devkulkarniif that is the case then the picture is little different (and a bit convoluted imo)21:21
dimtruckplus scaling21:21
devkulkarnithe picture that emerges is21:21
dimtruckplus linking21:21
dimtruckwe won't have to worry about any of that i don't think21:22
devkulkarnisolum -> magnum (to build the DU) -> solum -> heat -> magnum21:22
devkulkarnisee if it is only the deployment which we offload to magnum21:22
dimtruckwell, you wouldn't have magnum build the du imo21:22
devkulkarniright21:22
dimtruckyou'd still build everything and just offload deployment21:22
dimtruckright, that's what you said21:22
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devkulkarniin that case I don't agree with your point of yest. that the work that james_li has done in making our DU builds robust and secure would not be required21:23
devkulkarniwe will still need that21:23
devkulkarnidimtruck: ok, I think we are on the same page21:23
dimtruckahhh, yes - in CI his work is still important21:24
dimtruckthe CD part can be offloaded21:24
dimtruckgood catch21:24
devkulkarnidimtruck, muralia1: it will be awesome to have that spec/blueprint with the help of adrian_otto21:24
dimtruckok, we can chat with him after the meeting21:25
devkulkarnicool21:25
dimtrucksince muralia1 is internet-less21:25
devkulkarni:)21:26
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adrian_otto#topic Open Discussion21:26
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devkulkarnihave update about our gates21:26
dimtrucki submitted a rebased patch for operator21:27
dimtruckyou go first devkulkarni21:27
devkulkarnidimtruck: awesome!21:27
devkulkarniok21:27
devkulkarniso our gates were failing because of changes in barbican21:27
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devkulkarnithey changed the name of their configuration file21:27
devkulkarnithe fix was to change our devstack/lib/solum21:27
devkulkarnithe fix has been merged thanks to datsun180b and muralia121:28
devkulkarniso gates are clear now21:28
devkulkarnidimtruck: you can go21:28
datsun180bi spoke briefly with john v and barbican should still parse the old file if need be, but our problems were in expecting the old file during our own devstack scripts21:28
dimtruckcool!21:28
devkulkarnidatsun180b: oh !21:28
devkulkarniactually there is one more thing on this21:29
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datsun180bso the problem wasn't immediately with barbican, but just how we were using it. their methods changed and we didn't keep up21:29
devkulkarniso in our devstack setup there was some special code that we had for starting and stopping barbican. it was put in place by ravips when he was working on that stuff.21:29
adrian_ottointeresting21:30
devkulkarniso that code needs to be checked for (a) whether we need it or not anymore (b) if we do need it if it is correct or not21:30
devkulkarnithat piece of code was also causing our gates to fail21:30
datsun180bdollars to donuts we can trust the standard stop and start mechanism by now21:30
devkulkarniafter the configuration file name was fixed21:30
devkulkarniso for the time being I have commented that code as we are not using barbican. I have created a bug to track this issue21:31
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devkulkarnidatsun180b: fair enough21:31
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devkulkarniwe need to verify that21:32
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devkulkarniI wanted to unblock our gate so have not checked it21:32
devkulkarnidimtruck: now you can go :)21:32
dimtruckso i uploaded patch 3 of operator guide.  Please review and let me know your thoughts :)21:32
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devkulkarnidimtruck: will do21:33
adrian_ottowhooot!21:33
dimtruckhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/204312/21:33
devkulkarnihas gerrit given you a +1 yet?21:33
dimtrucknope :)21:33
adrian_ottodevkulkarni: not yet21:33
devkulkarnithanks for putting this together dimtruck21:33
devkulkarniwhat tool did you use to create that architecture diagram?21:33
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dimtrucki'm queued up21:33
dimtruckgliffy21:33
devkulkarnilooks clean21:33
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dimtruckit's cool because you can export/import json files21:34
dimtruckand it supports open source projects21:34
devkulkarniwhat do you mean?21:34
dimtrucki mean it's ok to use for open source projects without buying a license21:34
devkulkarniimages are created/saved as json?21:34
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dimtruckoh, you can save the image as json21:34
dimtruckand then upload it to gliffy and it renders the json21:34
dimtruckso it can be versioned really well as json21:35
devkulkarniwow! should be very useful21:35
dimtruckin fact, i should have probably uploaded the json to our guide now that i think about it21:35
dimtruckugh21:35
devkulkarniyeah, that will be helpful21:35
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devkulkarniadrian_otto: I guess we are done for today. You can end the meeting.21:38
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datsun180bagreed21:38
dimtruckp.s. i just pushed the json file21:38
devkulkarnisaw that21:39
dimtruckhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/204312/4/doc/source/configure_and_run/solum_architecture.gliffy21:39
devkulkarniyeah..very interesting21:39
devkulkarnireminds me of the postscript language21:39
datsun180boh geez21:40
datsun180bpython -mjson.tool that willya21:40
datsun180bdid they just make an svg<->json mapping or what21:40
devkulkarnilooks like..21:40
devkulkarnidatsun180b weren't you working on something similar in your spare time?21:41
datsun180bwell i learned to just write svgs anyway21:41
datsun180band animate them with js, since they're xml they have a DOM that can be navigated and manipulated21:41
devkulkarniinteresting. yeah, if its a DOM it can be manipulated via js21:42
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adrian_otto#endmeeting22:00
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