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mrmartinhey18:00
mrmartinanyone here for ambassador meeting?18:00
sarobHey18:01
mrmartinanyone else?18:01
mrmartin:)18:01
sarob#startmeeting ambassadors18:01
openstackMeeting started Fri Jan 30 18:01:24 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ambassadors'18:01
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mrmartinWe could create a new rule, if an ambassador not attends a meeting at least once per month, we can revoke his title :)18:01
sarobWe need to get more active on the ml18:01
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mrmartinanyway18:02
sarobI think most forget about the time18:02
mrmartinthen I'm going to grab a beer instead18:02
sarobAnd the ics is still messed up18:02
sarob;)18:02
mrmartinI'll meet with Erwan during this weekend, both of us is in Brussels, FOSDEM18:02
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mrmartinsarob18:03
sarobCool18:03
sarobMrmartin18:03
mrmartinwe are ready for UI translations for the groups portal18:03
sarobSweet18:03
mrmartinhttps://groups-dev.openstack.org/18:03
mrmartinwith a nice language selector18:03
mrmartinand the most awesome thing is, that it can connect the membership data from meetup.com pages!18:03
sarobSo there will be a lang option in the corner18:03
sarobNice18:04
mrmartinI'm just waiting for an Foundation meetup.com subscription then I can inject the API ke18:04
mrmartinkey18:04
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sarobIt's looking better18:04
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mrmartinand imagine that, with this, we can make reports, and create global and regional summaries18:04
sarobThat will be very cool18:05
mrmartinand event can check the trends18:05
mrmartinawesome18:05
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sarobImport old meetup data!18:05
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sarobThat was a question18:05
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mrmartinand the size of the community is huge18:05
mrmartinok18:05
sarobNot a statement18:05
mrmartinimport old meetup data18:05
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sarobFat fingers18:06
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mrmartinso, it is a question how we want to do it. I've double checked the API the worst thing is membership data18:06
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mrmartinbecause meetup.com hides the email addresses18:06
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sarobHmm18:06
mrmartinso maybe we need a manual assignment of profiles18:06
sarobIcky18:06
mrmartinit is not a big problem, until you don't have a huge group :)18:06
mrmartinI'll discuss those things with Stefano also18:07
sarobI've only got 5k or so18:07
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mrmartingoing through 5k records is a huge task I guess18:07
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mrmartinmaybe with some voluenteer help it is not impossible18:07
mrmartinbut18:07
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sarobIf have a reg system18:08
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sarobFor check ins18:08
mrmartinif you want to import the meetup data, the question here, you like to see a continous data sync18:08
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mrmartinor a one-time import only, and use the groups portal for further activity (like event advertisement, attendee handling)18:08
sarobWe could gamify badges swag or something18:08
sarobFor first meet, 5th, 10th et18:09
sarobEtc18:09
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sarobShurely18:09
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sarobMessy irc clients18:10
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mrmartinok, the short-term goal actually, to receive the meetup.com API key that I can use for data sync18:10
mrmartinand we can step further after this, I'm working on that18:10
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sarobI would really like to have a simple way of tracking who comes to which meetings18:10
sarobCool18:11
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sarobI like the progess18:11
mrmartinI guess yours is the largest group, how much people used to visit?18:11
mrmartinwhat is the avg?18:11
mrmartinand the max18:11
sarobLast was 11018:11
sarobBiggest was 26018:11
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mrmartinand are you doing a registration of attendees there?18:12
sarobNope18:12
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mrmartinand would you like to do something like eventbrite?18:12
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sarobCoul18:12
mrmartinor how do you like to measure who came or not?18:12
sarobCloud18:12
sarobArg18:12
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sarobI was thinking the groups site could support attendees18:13
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mrmartinit is supporting now18:13
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sarobSo you could add check in button18:13
mrmartinoh, right18:13
sarobIt could give away stuff18:14
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sarobBased on the data18:14
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mrmartinbut if you like to get exact data, you cannot avoid to measure on-site who visited the event18:14
sarobMarketing people like to give away swag18:14
mrmartinit is a typical thing, that somebody event pushing the good to see you button, who not visited the event18:14
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mrmartinevent / even18:14
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sarobYeah but I want to push people to your site18:15
sarobNot meetup18:15
mrmartinok.18:15
mrmartinallright.18:15
sarobStill using meetup for backend stuff is cool18:15
mrmartinand would you like to keep meetup.com as an event advertising channel?18:15
sarobRight18:15
mrmartinbecause it is reaching other people registered to meetups18:16
sarobExactly18:16
sarobBest of both options18:16
sarobYou can innovate18:16
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sarobMeetup does the std stuff18:16
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mrmartinok, but the question will came up here, which one will be the origin of data? for example if you want to see the number of members18:17
mrmartinhow can I calculate that? Use groups data or meetup.com data, or mix of both?18:17
sarobCan you synch the data?18:17
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mrmartinit was very hard, because we need to assign the profiles manually18:17
mrmartinand imagine it is not so bad18:18
sarobHold on a SFC18:18
sarobCrap18:18
sarobSec18:18
mrmartinI check linkedin, because somebody have groups that18:18
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mrmartinthe linkeding api not exactly designed for data consumption by scripts18:18
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mrmartinso if we want to use a robot to sync in data from linkedin, we need to renew the api token every 60 days.18:19
mrmartinmanually.18:19
sarobIcky18:19
sarobI'd say your data should be primary18:19
mrmartinit can be a goal, but it will take time to move everybody here.18:19
sarobUnderstood18:20
mrmartinactually, as I added the meetup.com sync plugin, it can be turned on or of by group organizers18:20
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mrmartinso it can be managed per group18:20
sarobOkay18:20
mrmartinand I can write a logic, that is using different source of data depending on group settings.18:20
mrmartinI think it is a good middle-way18:21
sarobOkay18:21
sarobI'd like to start doing activities data driven18:21
sarobFuture goal18:21
mrmartinok.18:21
mrmartinI guess the first membership count stats will be a great breakthrough18:22
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mrmartinand if it works, we can extend with other data-mining functions18:22
sarobWe could track which people go to what type of events18:22
sarobYup18:23
mrmartineven making the data consumable through api18:23
mrmartinsimilary to stackalytics18:23
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sarobI know some people travel a lot and hit different events18:23
sarobAlong their trips18:23
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sarobMetrics like that will be very interesting18:24
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sarobWhat draws people in18:24
mrmartinyeap, but need to protect their privacy too18:24
sarobThen what their git stats18:25
mrmartinso before defining so strict tracking functions, need to check the legal part too18:25
sarobSure18:25
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mrmartinbut consuming anonymized data, like the usage reports can work18:25
mrmartinjust requires some initial planning18:26
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sarobAll sound exciting options18:26
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sarobSounds18:26
sarobLike18:26
mrmartinok, in the next 2week sprint, I want to finish the first report, let's see the feedbacks first18:26
mrmartinabout the group membership18:27
sarobAnyone else join us for the ambassador meeting?18:27
mrmartinand after that it is very easy to create an activity report18:27
mrmartinas a second step18:27
mrmartinnoone18:27
mrmartinok18:27
sarobMrmartin can't wait18:27
mrmartinbut I need to go, and find the Delirium cafee18:28
sarobI have started surveying at our meets18:28
mrmartinand meet with other fellas IRL18:28
mrmartinawesome18:28
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mrmartinI did a presentation at a different meetup group, and they did a survey also18:29
sarobSurveymonkey18:29
mrmartinwhat you measured in the survey?18:29
sarobInstructor feedback18:29
mrmartinok.18:30
sarob#link https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/CSH6VBW18:30
sarobAbout 15% feedback ratio18:30
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mrmartinnotbad18:31
mrmartinok18:31
sarobHere's the data #link http://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-M9BQ5GZV18:32
mrmartindo you plan to visit the tuesday meetup for the other timezone?18:32
sarobWhich what?18:32
mrmartinthe next one on tuesday, ambassador18:32
sarobOh right I fell asleep for the last Tuesday one18:33
sarobCan you run the tuesday ones?18:33
sarobI'll join if i can18:34
sarobStay aware ;)18:34
sarobAwake18:34
sarobArg18:34
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sarobSpell check is messing with me18:34
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mrmartinok, don't forget to send around a reminder on monday18:35
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sarobRight18:35
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sarobAkihiro is running the upstream Dev training in Tokyo18:36
mrmartinawesome, I plan to do one in our region too18:37
sarobI want to get him more active on this18:37
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sarobTranslation performance18:37
mrmartinI'll finish the Vancouver summit session this weekend with Erwan.18:37
sarobAnd region specific content18:38
egallenyes, we will try to finish the summit talk description this week-end with mrmartin at the FOSDEM in Brussels18:38
sarobEgallen cool18:38
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sarobAs part of training guides18:38
sarobI want to make sure your improvements get back into the repo18:39
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sarobMaking the content work for different regions is really difficult and exciting18:40
mrmartinok.18:42
sarobThere will be interesting ways of improving training based on groups site and surveys18:42
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sarobI don't know what those are yet though18:43
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sarobI think that all I have18:44
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mrmartinallright18:44
sarobAnything else from y'all?18:45
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egallenno18:45
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sarobParting thought18:46
sarobWe should be more active on the ambassador ML18:46
mrmartinyeap18:47
mrmartinI agree18:47
sarob#info we should be more active on the ambassador ML18:47
sarobWith that18:47
sarobGood night!18:47
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egallenBye18:47
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sarob#endmeeting18:48
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