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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 29 15:00:18 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hey guys | 15:00 |
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| toabctl | hi | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | hello | 15:00 |
| u_glide | hi | 15:00 |
| rushil | hi | 15:00 |
| markstur_ | hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | so I don't have an agenda prepared for today | 15:00 |
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| bswartz | because I'm in austin at the cinder meetup | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | but there's a few things I'd like to talk about | 15:01 |
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| cknight | Hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | so I'm going to make up the agenda as I go | 15:01 |
| ganso_ | hi | 15:01 |
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| vponomaryov | breaking news: "generic driver is broken due to bug in Nova" | 15:01 |
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| ganso_ | O_O | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #topic midcycle meetup | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "midcycle meetup (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: okay let's fix that | 15:02 |
| bswartz | we can talk about that one after this one | 15:02 |
| bswartz | so last week there was some interest from various folks to attend a manila meetup in RTP in person | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | however everyone I've talked to has said they can't make it | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | is there anyone who is still interested in attending in person? | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | I proposed times on both the ML and the etherpad | 15:04 |
| bswartz | nobody has objected to those times so I'd like to lock those in | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | we can proceed under the assumption that everyone will be joining remotely | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | I saw some suggestions for agenda items on the etherpad already which is great | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | I'll be putting my own suggestions there soon | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | please, provide a link | 15:05 |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-kilo-midcycle-meetup | 15:05 |
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| vponomaryov | thanks | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | if anyone does plan to attend in person, PLEASE CONTACT ME by email | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | the planned dates are feb 11 and 12 which are just 2 weeks away | 15:07 |
| bswartz | by next week I hope to have the agenda filled up | 15:07 |
| bswartz | just a reminder: the morning and afternoon sessions will probably have overlapping content to accommodate for people joining from different timezones | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | any quesitons about that? | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | time dedication to topics? | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | like one topic - 15 minutes or similar | 15:09 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: we'll see how much we have to discuss | 15:09 |
| bswartz | then split up the time | 15:09 |
| bswartz | The purpose of the meetup is to benefit you guys | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | and if there's no enough to talk about then I'll take advantage of the time to pull you all into code reviews and bugfixing for K-3 | 15:10 |
| bswartz | hehe | 15:11 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | #topic nova bug affecting generic driver | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "nova bug affecting generic driver (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:11 | |
| vponomaryov | bug in manila: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1415770 | 15:11 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: what is there to say about this topic? | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | bug in nova: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1415835 | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | Temporary fix into Manila: | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/151217 | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | Nova shoots in its own leg trying boot Vm with Neutron port | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | since today | 15:12 |
| bswartz | did you talk to any nova guys about this? | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151184/ | 15:13 |
| bswartz | what's the likelihood it will be fixed there soon? | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it depends | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | but not only Manila is broken | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | rally project is broken too | 15:13 |
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| vponomaryov | we are not alone | 15:13 |
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| vponomaryov | I guess soon, because it is really critical | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | well is the fix you proposed something we shouldn't merge if they fix their bug soon? | 15:14 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: we do not have tempets covered until NOva bug is fixed | 15:15 |
| vponomaryov | s/covered/coverage/ | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | oh I just reviewed the fix | 15:15 |
| bswartz | okay this is a fine temporary workaround | 15:16 |
| bswartz | thanks vponomaryov | 15:16 |
| bswartz | #topic dev status | 15:16 |
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| vponomaryov | Dev status: | 15:16 |
| vponomaryov | 1) New Neutron network plugin that uses only one preconfigured net/subnet | 15:16 |
| vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/neutron-single-network-plugin | 15:16 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/150460 | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | status: merged | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | 2) New standalone network plugin | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/standalone-network-plugin | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | status: work in progress | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | 3) Manage/unmanage shares | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/manage-shares | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/147495 | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | status: finished, ready for review | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | 4) Single_svm mode for Generic driver | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/single-svm-mode-for-generic-driver | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/142403 | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | status: finished, ready for review | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | 5) Share access levels 'ro' and 'rw' | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/level-of-access-for-shares | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | - client #link https://review.openstack.org/144298 | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | - server #link https://review.openstack.org/144617 | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | status: finished, ready for review | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | 6) level of visibility for shares | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/level-of-visibility-for-shares | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/148853 | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | status: work in progress | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | that's the main | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | rushil: where are we with share-types? | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | hmm | 15:20 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:20 |
| bswartz | #topic k-2 milestone | 15:21 |
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| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/kilo-2 | 15:21 |
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| bswartz | okay I'm going to kick out anything that I can't get a response for | 15:21 |
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| bswartz | csaba: what is the status of gateway-mediated-with-ganesha | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | it's old and has -1 from jenkins | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | dynamic-storage-pools I know is ready | 15:22 |
| bswartz | single-svm-mode-for-generic-driver is ready | 15:23 |
| csaba | bswartz: we will submit patch soon | 15:23 |
| bswartz | generic-driver-single-svm-ci-job -- is this ready? | 15:23 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: yes | 15:23 |
| csaba | rraja can tell the details | 15:23 |
| bswartz | csaba: can it be done for k2? | 15:23 |
| bswartz | we only have a week 2 review and merge it | 15:23 |
| bswartz | s/2/to/ | 15:23 |
| csaba | bswartz: yes | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | csaba: I'd rather push it to k3 unless it's going to be a quick an easy review | 15:24 |
| bswartz | level-of-access-for-shares is ready | 15:25 |
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| rraja | bswartz: yes it is quick and easy review. the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124637/ should be up in a couple of days. | 15:25 |
| csaba | bswartz: when do you need to decide? | 15:25 |
| bswartz | netapp-driver-factory and netapp-driver-tracing are ready | 15:25 |
| rraja | bswartz: i ran into couple of bugs in SSHPool and ganesha config options registry | 15:25 |
| bswartz | rraja: it needed to be submitted 5 days ago for k2, technically | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | a few more days is too late | 15:26 |
| rraja | bswartz: i've fixed those bugs. | 15:26 |
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| rraja | bswartz: OK. | 15:27 |
| bswartz | it's high priority so I'll give it 24 hours to show up | 15:27 |
| bswartz | tomorrow morning I'll boot it out | 15:27 |
| jasonsb | bswartz: i have a question on updating requirements.txt | 15:28 |
| bswartz | enhance-share-manager -- this doesn't look ready | 15:28 |
| rraja | bswartz: ganesha bugs also affects GPFS Share driver. so hopefully at least that fix can go in, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151112/ | 15:28 |
| bswartz | jasonsb: let me get through the bp list forst | 15:28 |
| bswartz | rraja: we can cover bugs too | 15:28 |
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| nileshb | right | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: what's with enhance-share-manager | 15:28 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: no one works on it | 15:29 |
| bswartz | okay I'll retarget | 15:29 |
| bswartz | hp3par-manila-driver | 15:29 |
| bswartz | this has a bunch of -1 | 15:29 |
| markstur_ | fixes are ready except | 15:30 |
| markstur_ | adding share-from-snap | 15:30 |
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| markstur_ | was planning that for later, but review asked for it | 15:30 |
| bswartz | markstur_: okay just know that k-2 is a few days away | 15:30 |
| markstur_ | yeah | 15:30 |
| bswartz | please be responsive to review comments to increase chance of getting merged | 15:30 |
| bswartz | hitachi-sop-manila-driver | 15:31 |
| markstur_ | I can push fixes up today, but may have to do snapshare separate | 15:31 |
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| vponomaryov | jasonsb: is your driver going to support snapshots? | 15:31 |
| jasonsb | 1 easy fix and test coverage to go | 15:31 |
| jasonsb | vponomaryov: no. no snapshots for this | 15:31 |
| bswartz | jasonsb: jenkins doesn't lke your patch | 15:31 |
| jasonsb | how to best update requirements.txt? | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | jasonsb: just do it =) | 15:32 |
| jasonsb | would like to pull from global-requirements into requirements | 15:32 |
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| jasonsb | it should be done separately from driver? | 15:32 |
| bswartz | does global requirements overwrite our requirements, or can we add non-global requirements? | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | that's something I haen't tried | 15:32 |
| ganso_ | what is the guideline when driver does not support snapshots? prevent error or throw error in method? shouldn't there be an option in [manila] in tempest for this? | 15:33 |
| jasonsb | global requirements has the thing i need so i think this is easy | 15:33 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: "global" is word from requirements projects | 15:33 |
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| bswartz | ganso_: drivers are supposed to support snapshots, even if the implementation is not efficient or pretty | 15:33 |
| vponomaryov | jasonsb: itis ok to add it in commit with driver and before | 15:33 |
| vponomaryov | if driver is first who starts using it | 15:33 |
| jasonsb | vponomaryov: ok will do | 15:33 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: so a driver without snapshot cannot be accepted? | 15:33 |
| bswartz | ganso_: talk to me about it offline | 15:34 |
| bswartz | I want to know why it can't be supported | 15:34 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: we already have such drivers | 15:34 |
| vponomaryov | csaba, rraja: right? | 15:34 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: we do make exceptions | 15:34 |
| bswartz | but only for good reasons | 15:34 |
| jasonsb | underlying platform doesn't support snapshots at present | 15:35 |
| csaba | vponomaryov: yeah | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | it's bad to have backends that can't meet minimum functionality | 15:35 |
| bswartz | we'll need to document which drivers have limitations and try to figure out how to fix them | 15:35 |
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| ganso_ | bswartz: ok I will talk to you later about this | 15:36 |
| bswartz | My intent is to start implement CI systems similar to what cinder has done | 15:36 |
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| bswartz | and drivers without snapshots won't pass those tests | 15:36 |
| bswartz | that's a discussion for L though | 15:36 |
| jasonsb | bswartz: am i ok for present? | 15:37 |
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| bswartz | let's talk offline | 15:37 |
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| jasonsb | ok | 15:37 |
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| bswartz | keep working on getting the driver to pass jenkins though | 15:37 |
| vponomaryov | and pass reviewers too =) | 15:37 |
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| bswartz | and we'll do code reviews to try to get it mergable in parallel | 15:37 |
| jasonsb | i'll post an update with requirements.txt to get a jenkins run | 15:38 |
| jasonsb | vponomaryov: :) | 15:38 |
| bswartz | it's not the end of the world if a driver slips to k-3, but if we have too many that limits our ability to focus on features and bugfixes | 15:38 |
| bswartz | netapp-cdot-driver-extension | 15:39 |
| bswartz | this one has been sitting around for a while | 15:39 |
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| bswartz | oh but it's getting worked on still | 15:39 |
| bswartz | I'll give it another pass | 15:39 |
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| bswartz | okay BUGS | 15:39 |
| bswartz | we have a bunch with no assignee | 15:39 |
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| bswartz | I see several netapp ones | 15:40 |
| bswartz | can someone from netapp pick these up? | 15:41 |
| cknight | bswartz: I can triage | 15:41 |
| bswartz | ty | 15:41 |
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| bswartz | anyone working on a bug that's not targetted at k2? | 15:42 |
| bswartz | I'm going to focus my reviews on k2-targetteed stuff only | 15:42 |
| bswartz | going from high priority to low | 15:42 |
| cknight | bswartz: yes, working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1415602 | 15:43 |
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| bswartz | okay | 15:43 |
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| bswartz | so again I'll plead with all of you to focus on reviews this coming week | 15:44 |
| bswartz | and if you have stuff being reviews, respond quickly | 15:44 |
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| bswartz | reviewed | 15:44 |
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| bswartz | I have a good feeling about k2 | 15:45 |
| bswartz | but there a lot left to finish and not a lot of time | 15:45 |
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| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:45 |
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| bswartz | that's all I have | 15:45 |
| bswartz | anyone have another topic to discuss today? | 15:45 |
| bswartz | okay I think we're done | 15:46 |
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| ganso_ | can we discuss snapshot now? | 15:46 |
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| bswartz | ganso_ and jasonsb: grab me today or tomorrow and we can talk about snapshots | 15:46 |
| timcl | any updates on mid-cycle plans? | 15:46 |
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| bswartz | timcl: its looking like it will be all virtual | 15:47 |
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| bswartz | but the dates are good, so we can lock them in | 15:47 |
| timcl | ok just wanted to make sure if there were people planning to travel | 15:47 |
| bswartz | so far nobody is planning travel | 15:47 |
| bswartz | to be fair we didn't give much advance notice | 15:47 |
| bswartz | next time we can fix that | 15:47 |
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| bswartz | timcl: I'll let you know if that changes | 15:48 |
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| bswartz | thanks all! | 15:48 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 29 15:49:09 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-01-29-15.00.html | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-01-29-15.00.txt | 15:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-01-29-15.00.log.html | 15:49 |
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| kozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 29 16:01:25 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | hey guys | 16:01 |
| mihgen | hi | 16:01 |
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| docaedo | hello | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | agenda as usual | 16:01 |
| brain461 | hello | 16:01 |
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| kozhukalov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:01 |
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| prmtl | hi | 16:02 |
| ikalnitsky | o/ | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | #chair kozhukalov | 16:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: kozhukalov | 16:02 |
| akislitsky | hi | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | we have just a few topics to discuss | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | so if someone have any short announcements please go ahead | 16:03 |
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| kozhukalov | right now before actual topics | 16:03 |
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| agordeev | hi | 16:03 |
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| kozhukalov | does anybody have any announcements? | 16:03 |
| kozhukalov | nobody? | 16:03 |
| kozhukalov | really? )) | 16:04 |
| kozhukalov | ok, let's start | 16:04 |
| kozhukalov | #topic separate MOS packages from upstream linux (vparakhin) | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "separate MOS packages from upstream linux (vparakhin) (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:04 | |
| brain461 | hi | 16:04 |
| brain461 | Blueprint for the feature: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/separate-mos-from-linux | 16:04 |
| brain461 | Spec is prepared, there are few last-minute changes from latest discussions, going to apply them in a few hrs from now, so the spec will be ready for review. | 16:04 |
| brain461 | Spec is here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148279/ | 16:05 |
| brain461 | I have a PoC for separating vanilla Ubuntu packages that are not present on upstream ISO: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150520/ | 16:05 |
| kozhukalov | everyone is welcome to review | 16:05 |
| brain461 | I expect to have working PoC for creating split repos this Monday. | 16:05 |
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| kozhukalov | we've just finished discussing last points about this task | 16:06 |
| brain461 | questions? | 16:06 |
| kozhukalov | great | 16:06 |
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| kozhukalov | another important point here is making sure Fuel (nailgun) is able to deal with several separate repos | 16:06 |
| kozhukalov | and afaiu we have not put this part into this spec | 16:07 |
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| kozhukalov | am i right? | 16:07 |
| kozhukalov | brain461: ^ | 16:07 |
| brain461 | no detailed description yet | 16:07 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, i'll add this nailgun related stuff in this spec | 16:08 |
| kozhukalov | as i am working on this currently | 16:08 |
| kozhukalov | it is necessary to note | 16:08 |
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| kozhukalov | that there was pinning problem | 16:09 |
| angdraug | is this about separate mirrors on master node only? | 16:09 |
| kozhukalov | preseed and kickstart are not able to prioritize repos | 16:09 |
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| angdraug | or will it allow to specify external repos too? | 16:09 |
| kozhukalov | but it is solvable | 16:09 |
| brain461 | not only on aster node, on fuel mirrors as well | 16:09 |
| agordeev | kozhukalov: that hurts builduing target images for IBP then | 16:09 |
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| kozhukalov | external repos to | 16:10 |
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| kozhukalov | agordeev: no, it does not | 16:10 |
| agordeev | kozhukalov: ok | 16:10 |
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| kozhukalov | because we are planning to build image in two stages | 16:10 |
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| kozhukalov | first is just basic OS from one basic repo | 16:11 |
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| kozhukalov | and then all other packages are to be installed with apt-get and yum | 16:11 |
| angdraug | not really obvious from the spec, proposed change section only mentions local mirrors | 16:11 |
| kozhukalov | and those tools support pinning | 16:11 |
| kozhukalov | angdraug: it is supposed that we put repo_metadata into cluster attributes | 16:12 |
| brain461 | angdraug: yes, this will be clarified, thanks | 16:12 |
| kozhukalov | and potentially user will be able to add repos for a particular cluster | 16:12 |
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| kozhukalov | i'll add this info to the spec tomorrow | 16:13 |
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| kozhukalov | angdraug: are you ok with that? did i answered you q? | 16:13 |
| kozhukalov | ok, if there are no other q, let's move on then | 16:14 |
| kozhukalov | #topic image based provisioning (agordeev) | 16:14 |
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| agordeev | hi | 16:15 |
| agordeev | 3 blueprints were created as fuel folks have suggested at the previous meeting. | 16:15 |
| agordeev | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/ibp-build-ubuntu-images | 16:15 |
| agordeev | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/ibp-image-checksums | 16:15 |
| agordeev | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/ibp-reconnect | 16:15 |
| agordeev | Specs are about 80% ready and will be populated with more precised details of implementation on the next week. | 16:15 |
| agordeev | About bugs: no new bugs so far. Still a couple of fixes are on the review now. | 16:15 |
| agordeev | Also i think i've figured out the root case of the most epic bug of Fuel-agent. "Device or resource is busy" which appears on the partitioning step of provisioning. | 16:15 |
| agordeev | I had put some thought here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Fuel-Agent-EPIC-BUG-device-is-busy | 16:15 |
| agordeev | ETA of its fix is 1-2days. | 16:15 |
| agordeev | So, everything is proceeding according to the plan. That's all. | 16:15 |
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| dpyzhov | agordeev: excellent =) | 16:16 |
| agordeev | So my short version of the root cause: udev has got scaling issues when processing a lot of events generated by `parted`. | 16:16 |
| kozhukalov | agordeev: great research, we really need fuel agent to be reliable | 16:17 |
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| kozhukalov | does anybody have any questions? | 16:18 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, looking forward for the fix of this epic bug | 16:18 |
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| kozhukalov | are you planning to rework partition utils so as to run parted as few times as possible& | 16:19 |
| kozhukalov | ? | 16:19 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, looks like we can move on | 16:20 |
| kozhukalov | #topic fuel-library modularization status (adidenko) | 16:20 |
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| agordeev | kozhukalov: nope, making less calls of parted doesn't improve the situation. | 16:21 |
| alex_didenko | hi guys | 16:21 |
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| kozhukalov | alex_didenko: hi | 16:21 |
| alex_didenko | BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-library-modularization | 16:21 |
| alex_didenko | Latest spec in HTML format: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/91/147591/8/check/gate-fuel-specs-docs/763fc7e//doc/build/html/specs/6.1/fuel-library-modularization.html | 16:21 |
| alex_didenko | As you may know, we're using granular task based deployment in master already. | 16:21 |
| alex_didenko | Currently we have a set of separate manifests that are applied by puppet as separate tasks. Here they are: https://github.com/stackforge/fuel-library/tree/master/deployment/puppet/osnailyfacter/modular | 16:21 |
| alex_didenko | As the final puppet task we run 'legacy.pp' which is almost exact copy of old 'site.pp' so the deployment process is almost the same as before. | 16:21 |
| alex_didenko | As the next stage of fuel-library granularization, we're going to move node roles (controller, compute, cinder, ceph-osd, mongo, zabbix-server) into separate tasks. So every role is going to be deployed by its own separate puppet manifest applied as Fuel task. | 16:21 |
| alex_didenko | This code is already on review, tested with BVTs and ready to merge. We're waiting for some CI updates (switching centos from 'multinode' to 'HA') in order to pass CI. | 16:21 |
| alex_didenko | So when we merge those patches with roles as separate tasks, we'll be able to remove "osnailyfacter/manifests/cluster_ha.pp" as we no longer need it. | 16:21 |
| alex_didenko | Also we're switching from $::fuel_settings to Hiera. All the configuration data will be pulled into manifests via hiera() only. | 16:21 |
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| alex_didenko | We also have some changes in fuel-library CI related to granular deployment. Since our deployment process depends on tasks, which are shipped with fuel-library repo, we've added new CI test to make sure we have a working tasks graph in every commit. Here is an example: https://fuel-jenkins.mirantis.com/job/fuellib_tasks_graph_check/39/console | 16:21 |
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| alex_didenko | So atm we're following our implementation plan and everything looks OK. | 16:22 |
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| kozhukalov | afaiu we hiera data format will differ from what we have in astute.yaml | 16:23 |
| kozhukalov | am I right? | 16:23 |
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| alex_didenko | not quite, hiera allows to pull any YAML compatible data | 16:24 |
| izinovik | alex_didenko, am i understanding correctly that $::fuel_settings will completely dissapear eventually? | 16:24 |
| kozhukalov | ohh, great | 16:24 |
| alex_didenko | izinovik: yes, ritgh with those roles tasks patch merge | 16:24 |
| alex_didenko | we don't use fuel_settings there | 16:24 |
| alex_didenko | only hiera | 16:24 |
| izinovik | thanks, got it | 16:24 |
| angdraug | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-January/055299.html | 16:25 |
| angdraug | can we explore this topic in a bit more detail? | 16:25 |
| kozhukalov | and afaiu hiera allows you to use a little bit more secure way to store sensitive data | 16:26 |
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| alex_didenko | hiera provides flexibility for operators or developers | 16:26 |
| alex_didenko | not sure about scurity, since it's going to use the same source - astute.yaml in our case | 16:27 |
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| alex_didenko | angdraug: we're going to remove simple mode from CI and QA | 16:27 |
| angdraug | alex_didenko: that's not what this was about | 16:27 |
| angdraug | I'm fine with removing simple mode | 16:27 |
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| angdraug | but I want to understand what is the value of fuel modularization if it makes it _harder_ to maintain features like simple mode instead of making it _easier_ | 16:28 |
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| alex_didenko | it does not make them harder | 16:29 |
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| alex_didenko | but since it's a huge refactoring, it will just require more resource to migrate two modes from monolithic to granular deployment | 16:29 |
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| alex_didenko | so having the flexibility of granular deployment you can easily develop your own "mode" - adjust tasks, prepare manifests and import them into Nailgun | 16:30 |
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| angdraug | so "doubling the effort" was an overstatement? | 16:31 |
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| angdraug | I'm just worried that in current fuel-library, difference between simple and HA is down to a single manifest, cluster_ha vs cluster_simple | 16:32 |
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| alex_didenko | maybe a little bit... but I really see no point to do this since we were going to drop simple mode anyway | 16:32 |
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| angdraug | that's a fair point, just trying to understand how much effort it would be to add an alternative reference HA architecture | 16:33 |
| alex_didenko | yes, but there is a lot of code duplication | 16:33 |
| alex_didenko | currently | 16:33 |
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| alex_didenko | for HA and simple | 16:33 |
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| izinovik | some modules in fuel-library/ also have to adapt and know what deployment mode was chosen | 16:33 |
| alex_didenko | we declare the same classes but with different parameters in HA and Simple | 16:33 |
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| alex_didenko | izinovik: why? they will see that deployment_mode is "ha_compact" and run as usually | 16:34 |
| izinovik | not always | 16:34 |
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| izinovik | in simple mode you have to install you own custom init.d scripts to run multiple service instances | 16:35 |
| izinovik | in HA it is not, you just install OCF script and you are done | 16:35 |
| angdraug | it would be nice to get rid of all the if(deployment_mode) conditionals | 16:35 |
| izinovik | IMO simple mode is just adds complexity to fuel-library/ | 16:35 |
| alex_didenko | angdraug: we will get rid of them | 16:36 |
| angdraug | as long as we don't end up having to re-add half of them later to support something like qpid as a plugin | 16:36 |
| kozhukalov | izinovik: if you are enforced to install custom init.d script then maybe the better place for that is package spec | 16:36 |
| angdraug | kozhukalov: +! | 16:36 |
| angdraug | kozhukalov: +1 | 16:36 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, guys, resume is, granular deployment has much more pros than cons | 16:37 |
| kozhukalov | moving on? | 16:37 |
| angdraug | yes, my question is addressed | 16:37 |
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| kozhukalov | #topic python-fuelclient status update(romcheg) | 16:38 |
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| romcheg | Hi folks! | 16:38 |
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| kozhukalov | romcheg: hi | 16:38 |
| barthalion | what's up, doc | 16:38 |
| romcheg | ISO build scripts have been switched to stackforge/python-fuelclient as the main source of Fuel Client. fuel-web/fuelclient directory was removed finally \o/ | 16:38 |
| romcheg | akasatkin, dpyzhov, evgeniyl___ and ikalnitsky were added to python-fuelclient-core group | 16:38 |
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| romcheg | Because they were cores in the original gerrit project | 16:39 |
| romcheg | Guys, please keep your activity high enough because that group is managed according to Approved Governance process. | 16:39 |
| romcheg | That basically means that we are going to add/remove core members according to the number of useful reviews | 16:39 |
| romcheg | ATM I’m working on releasing python-fuelclient-6.0.0 to PyPi. That requires to fix issues with packaging and configuration files | 16:40 |
| romcheg | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149661/ | 16:40 |
| romcheg | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151263 | 16:40 |
| romcheg | As soon as 6.0.0 is released QA dept. and other guys will be able to start testing fuel client in their projects | 16:41 |
| romcheg | For the fuel client team making a release will allow to start breaking backwards compatibility. | 16:41 |
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| romcheg | We are going to switch iso-make scripts from master branch of the client to 6.0.* as soon as it's released | 16:42 |
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| kozhukalov | romcheg: are there any testing issues about fuelclient according to the case that it was previously tested together with nailgun? | 16:43 |
| romcheg | Some of the folks also asked about job parameters for building custom ISOs with different revisions. That request is atm in progress https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1414069 | 16:43 |
| zigo | romcheg: Is there now a valid version number for fuelclient? | 16:43 |
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| romcheg | kozhukalov: No, looks like no one was using fuelclient :) | 16:43 |
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| romcheg | zigo: That version is 6.0.0, but it is in the master branch | 16:44 |
| barthalion | like it was easily possible… | 16:44 |
| kozhukalov | romcheg: but fuelclient used nailgun for its "unit" -) tests | 16:44 |
| zigo | One big issue of separating all components from the main fuel-web repo is that most components don't really have a valid version number. They all report 0.1 | 16:44 |
| romcheg | kozhukalov: The job for that was launched last week. I think there was an update in the mailing list | 16:45 |
| romcheg | zigo: I'll keep track of version number in both python and rpm packages | 16:45 |
| kozhukalov | romcheg: how do you think we will keep nailgun rest api synced with what we have in fuelclient since now? | 16:45 |
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| zigo | romcheg: I have Debian packages for all Fuel components, I could easilly upload fuelclient to Sid now if needed. | 16:46 |
| zigo | romcheg: Should I proceed? | 16:46 |
| xarses | kozhukalov: we have to test against it | 16:46 |
| romcheg | kozhukalov: Pretty easy — x.y.z version of the client will be compatible with x.y/y-1.z versions of Nailgun | 16:47 |
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| romcheg | zigo: Probably it's better upload packages when they are released on PyPi. | 16:47 |
| kozhukalov | zigo, that would be great | 16:47 |
| zigo | romcheg: I don't care PyPi, I do git tag based packaging. | 16:48 |
| kozhukalov | zigo: to put at least fuelclient in sid | 16:48 |
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| romcheg | zigo: In our case a tag === a pypi release actually | 16:48 |
| zigo | About nailgun, I haven't seen any dependency of it in fuelclient. | 16:48 |
| romcheg | Nothing should be linked to master except for testing reasons | 16:48 |
| zigo | Ah, right, no tags at all for fuelclient. | 16:49 |
| zigo | Could someone make one? | 16:49 |
| zigo | Even 0.0.1 is fine, so that I at least have a tag to play with ... | 16:49 |
| barthalion | it will be there once ready | 16:49 |
| romcheg | zigo: I'm working on that. As I've said ^ two problems have to be resolved first | 16:49 |
| zigo | Ok. | 16:49 |
| barthalion | romcheg is still working on that | 16:49 |
| zigo | romcheg: Please ping me when it's tagged. | 16:49 |
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| romcheg | #action romcheg Ping zigo when fuelclient is tagged | 16:50 |
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| romcheg | Will do | 16:50 |
| zigo | Also, someone should write a valid short and long description for fuelclient. | 16:50 |
| zigo | Thanks ! :) | 16:50 |
| zigo | romcheg: Could you work out a better long description, telling what it does? Like listing nodes, etc. | 16:51 |
| kozhukalov | yes, having classic old man page would be great | 16:51 |
| zigo | I don't think I know fuelclient enough to be able to tell... | 16:51 |
| romcheg | zigo: I'll try. | 16:51 |
| romcheg | kozhukalov: A manpage will be great but I believe someone will have to work on that | 16:52 |
| zigo | kozhukalov: Not having a man page isn't a blocker for uploading to Debian. Not having a long desc is. | 16:52 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, great | 16:52 |
| romcheg | I think we should look on how docs are done in other os projects | 16:52 |
| romcheg | iirc that scheme allows generating manpages | 16:53 |
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| kozhukalov | romcheg: you just need to ping one of fuel tech writers | 16:53 |
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| romcheg | kozhukalov: nice idea | 16:53 |
| romcheg | #action romcheg Poke fuel tech writers | 16:54 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, if no other q, then open discussion | 16:54 |
| kozhukalov | #topic open discussion | 16:54 |
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| kozhukalov | does anybody have something? | 16:55 |
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| romcheg | Everyone went for coffee? :-P | 16:55 |
| barthalion | we have 6 minutes left, and I need to leave sson | 16:55 |
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| barthalion | so I'll quickly complain about quality of our shell scripts | 16:55 |
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| kozhukalov | barthalion: for example | 16:56 |
| barthalion | we should decide whether we stick to POSIX standards or use bash | 16:56 |
| barthalion | any run_tests is full of bashisms | 16:56 |
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| barthalion | not using all bash features | 16:56 |
| barthalion | or almost none | 16:56 |
| kozhukalov | we definitely would like to stick to POSIX | 16:56 |
| angdraug | should we use dash to enforce that? | 16:56 |
| barthalion | I'd rather use busybox | 16:57 |
| * romcheg just ported run_test.sh to bash…. | 16:57 | |
| kozhukalov | barthalion: ok, please bring this up in ML | 16:57 |
| barthalion | dash is far from perfect from my experience | 16:57 |
| barthalion | kozhukalov: will do, thanks | 16:57 |
| zigo | I have something else to discuss ... | 16:57 |
| kozhukalov | 2 minutes | 16:57 |
| zigo | Has anyone tested my bootstrap ISO image? | 16:57 |
| barthalion | #action barthalion bring quality of shell scripts to the ML | 16:57 |
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| zigo | I'd like some fuel expert to do so. | 16:58 |
| kozhukalov | zigo, if it is longer than this let's move our discussion to #fuel-dev | 16:58 |
| angdraug | zigo: link? | 16:58 |
| kozhukalov | zigo, i did | 16:58 |
| angdraug | (for the record) | 16:58 |
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| zigo | Hum... | 16:58 |
| angdraug | 1 minute | 16:59 |
| zigo | http://juno-wheezy.pkgs.mirantis.com/debian/fuel-debian-bootstrap.iso <--- There ! :) | 16:59 |
| kozhukalov | zigo: your idea to move root fs on nfs is great | 16:59 |
| zigo | kozhukalov: Did it work as expected? | 16:59 |
| angdraug | #link http://juno-wheezy.pkgs.mirantis.com/debian/fuel-debian-bootstrap.iso | 16:59 |
| zigo | kozhukalov: The idea isn't to move root fs on NFS !!! | 16:59 |
| kozhukalov | yes i managed to run it | 16:59 |
| kozhukalov | zigo it is one of | 16:59 |
| zigo | It's to use NFS on the PXE boot to serve the .iso, as that's the way it works. | 16:59 |
| kozhukalov | ok we have no time any more | 17:00 |
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| kozhukalov | closing, and welcome to #fuel-dev | 17:00 |
| zigo | Let's move to #fuel-dev then ! :) | 17:00 |
| kozhukalov | thanx everyone | 17:00 |
| kozhukalov | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 29 17:00:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-01-29-16.01.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-01-29-16.01.txt | 17:00 |
| barthalion | bb | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-01-29-16.01.log.html | 17:00 |
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| hyakuhei | #startmeeting OpenStack Security Group | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 29 17:00:43 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:00 |
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| hyakuhei | zomg bdpayne ! | 17:00 |
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| barthalion | lol | 17:01 |
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| elmiko | hi | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | bdpayne: btw, jursey is back in the chan | 17:01 |
| tkelsey | o/ | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | spamming the peeplez | 17:01 |
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| bknudson | lol (not laughing, arms up) | 17:01 |
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| bdpayne | hey guys | 17:01 |
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| redrobot | o/ | 17:01 |
| ljfisher | o/ | 17:01 |
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| gmurphy | o/ | 17:01 |
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| bdpayne | I'll see what I can do with my amazing powers :-) | 17:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | \o\ dancing it out | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | lol everyone is exitable today | 17:02 |
| sigmavirus24 | /o/ | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | Must be anticipation of the meetup of awesomeness | 17:02 |
| chair6 | ello | 17:02 |
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| tmcpeak | too much fun with ghost busting | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | lol yes | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | So agenda for today? | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | bandit | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | * Anchor | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | * Meetup | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | * Bugs | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | * GLIBC Spectres | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | Anything else ? | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | looks like a good start | 17:04 |
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| hyakuhei | Ok lets roll | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Bandit | 17:04 |
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| tmcpeak | ok - regretfully we have a PyPI collision on the Bandit name | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | Grrr. | 17:05 |
| bknudson | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/bandit/0.0.1 | 17:05 |
| redrobot | boooo | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | BANdit? | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | I've asked the owner if he wants to give it up, but I'm not holding my breath | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | heh | 17:05 |
| bdpayne | clearly we shall call it bandit2 | 17:05 |
| redrobot | bandido? | 17:05 |
| tkelsey | redrobot: +1 lol | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | might be able to take it over | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, so a few options, slightly different name, totally different name, same name with something appended | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | wanted to see what the folks favor | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | particularly chair6 since it's his baby | 17:06 |
| tkelsey | tmcpeak: +1 | 17:06 |
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| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:06 |
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| bpb_ | Bandicoot? | 17:07 |
| elmiko | redrobot: +1 | 17:07 |
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| tmcpeak | I'm somewhat hesitant to put oslo.bandit, openstack.bandit, etc because I don't want to discourage non-openstack projects from using it | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | I could see sec.bandit or something | 17:07 |
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| hyakuhei | +1 tmcpeak | 17:07 |
| bdpayne | I'd suggest a full name change | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | or we can just go full on rebrand | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah | 17:07 |
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| hyakuhei | So I don’t think making it openstack specific is sensible | 17:08 |
| tkelsey | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | Did we consider contacting the package owner? | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | chair6: ! | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | sigmavirus24: Yes but no reply yet afaik | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24: I did yesterday | 17:08 |
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| tmcpeak | it seems like it has a fair amount of downloads, so I doubt he'd relinquish | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | It’s a pretty stale package by the looks of things | 17:08 |
| chair6 | i say we wait on a reply for a few days | 17:09 |
| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: that's likely mirrors | 17:09 |
| sigmavirus24 | chair6: I'd say give it a week or more honestly | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24: ahh yeah, good point | 17:09 |
| gmurphy | cl:q | 17:09 |
| chair6 | yep, then talk about other options from there | 17:09 |
| sigmavirus24 | If not, we can contact the PyPI administrators to see if we can reclaim the name | 17:09 |
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| tkelsey | that seems like a good plan | 17:09 |
| sigmavirus24 | (bandicoot may be trademarked fwiw) | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | ok, only downside is we really are completely blocked for moving ahead with our gate test in the meantime | 17:09 |
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| tmcpeak | I have a global requirements change ready to go, just pending a version number pin | 17:10 |
| bknudson | seems easier to pick a new name. | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | openstack-infra folks really want that | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | the pinned version I mean | 17:10 |
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| hyakuhei | Yeah | 17:10 |
| chair6 | renaming will take effort too though | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | it will also reset whatever name building we've already done | 17:10 |
| chair6 | hold off, see if we get a response, blocked for a week is okay.. imho | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | ok, I'm fine with that | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | backup plan? | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | new name or append? | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | Might as well agree a new name in the meantime... | 17:11 |
| chair6 | new name | 17:11 |
| tkelsey | chair6: +1 i think that seems like the best way to do it, backup should be contacting PyPI admins as sigmavirus24 suggested, after that look at rename I guess. Thoughts? | 17:11 |
| bdpayne | +1 for new name | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | ok | 17:12 |
| sigmavirus24 | If we can't get bandit, +1 for a new name | 17:12 |
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| tmcpeak | bandido and bandito are both free in PyPI | 17:12 |
| tkelsey | let the name voting commence lol (this normally takes a while) | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | ok cool, that all seems sensible | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | I love bandito :P | 17:13 |
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| tmcpeak | bknudson suggested it might be culturally insensitive | 17:13 |
| tkelsey | yeah +1 bandito here :) | 17:13 |
| tkelsey | ahh right | 17:13 |
| bdpayne | -1 on bandito ... it has... other meanings | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | Also, more generally OSSG / Bandit - there’s a few reviews outstanding and it would be good to have other OSSG people looking at Bandit https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:stackforge/bandit+status:open,n,z | 17:13 |
| bpb_ | bandicoot | 17:13 |
| bpb_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandicoot | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | checking bad requirement is bogus… I did that for a test | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | I'll abandon soon | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | rofl @ urban dictionary / Bandito | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | actually both the bottom two are bogus | 17:14 |
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| tmcpeak | Lucas' is in flight | 17:14 |
| bknudson | I think everything has an entry in urban dictionary by now. | 17:14 |
| bdpayne | -1 on bandicoot... it's taken: http://bandilab.org/ | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | great | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | we're pretty good with the reviews | 17:14 |
| bknudson | if not we can make something up. | 17:14 |
| bpb_ | bdpayne: oh well | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | Anything else on the project we know as Bandit? | 17:14 |
| chair6 | i'm actually quite annoying about this name thing .. it's completely breaking my name-all-the-tools-after-smokey-and-the-bandit-characters rule i have with this current employer | 17:14 |
| tkelsey | bpb_: bandicoot :D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crash_Bandicoot_%28video_game%29 | 17:15 |
| elmiko | chair6: LOL | 17:15 |
| bknudson | there must be other characters. | 17:15 |
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| bknudson | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076729/fullcredits/ | 17:15 |
| chair6 | i'm already using smokey, and burdette, and cledus, and.. :) | 17:15 |
| chair6 | we'll sort it out, and i'll survive | 17:16 |
| bknudson | sugarbear? | 17:16 |
| tkelsey | lol | 17:16 |
| nkinder | hotpants? Hmm... not sure | 17:16 |
| bknudson | hotpants? | 17:16 |
| elmiko | lol | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | sugarbear! | 17:16 |
| ljfisher | redbandit? my history tells me to always put two words together | 17:16 |
| chair6 | using sugarbear already :) | 17:16 |
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| bdpayne | so it's either hotpants or cledus then ;-) | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | Hehe. | 17:16 |
| nkinder | trucker? | 17:17 |
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| tmcpeak | chair6 has cledus already | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | tkelsey: Is there much to report on Anchor ? | 17:17 |
| sigmavirus24 | cledus +1 | 17:17 |
| nkinder | hotpants may be taken already for the next big CVE marketing name... | 17:17 |
| bknudson | I'm afraid to lookup hotpants in urban dictionary. | 17:17 |
| tkelsey | hyakuhei: tests rolling in, stuff in review, thats about i t | 17:17 |
| tkelsey | *it | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | chair6: maybe you can swap your project names to one that doesn't require PyPI | 17:17 |
| bpb_ | Bandura? | 17:17 |
| sigmavirus24 | what about tidnab? | 17:18 |
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| ljfisher | codebandit, but taken a couple places | 17:18 |
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| tmcpeak | or secbandit | 17:18 |
| bdpayne | hot pants + urban dictionary = what's wrong with UK? | 17:18 |
| tkelsey | bdpayne: lol | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | it's very rainy there | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | roflcopter | 17:19 |
| sigmavirus24 | bandicurity? | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | ok kids, lets talk about the meetup | 17:19 |
| elmiko | pantsbandit | 17:19 |
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| ljfisher | control is lost | 17:19 |
| elmiko | sry | 17:19 |
| sigmavirus24 | elmiko: we don't want people to think we're stealing pants now =P | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Security Meetup | 17:19 |
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| ukbelch | Racoon | 17:19 |
| elmiko | sigmavirus24: we dont? | 17:20 |
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| sigmavirus24 | elmiko: I'll explain later | 17:20 |
| bknudson | I got approval to attend the meetup so am planning to be there. | 17:20 |
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| hyakuhei | Fantastic! | 17:20 |
| nkinder | great! | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | The etherpad is here: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ossg-kilo-meetup | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | awesome! | 17:20 |
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| hyakuhei | The agenda could still be stronger, I want to make the most of it | 17:21 |
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| hyakuhei | redrobot: Our plans need to be aligned too | 17:21 |
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| hyakuhei | At least where we want to do similar things... | 17:21 |
| redrobot | hyakuhei agreed. | 17:21 |
| bknudson | is barbican going to be there? | 17:21 |
| redrobot | we can definitely talk about the Anchor->Barbican integration | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | Running in parallel in texas | 17:21 |
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| hyakuhei | Yeah | 17:21 |
| redrobot | yes, we're scheduled for Feb 16-18 | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | We’ll work out the best way | 17:22 |
| bknudson | there was some confusion at the keystone meetup about where barbican was. | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | Hangouts? | 17:22 |
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| redrobot | bknudson sorry about that... I had originally planned to go, but some personal stuff came up that prevented me from going... :-\ | 17:22 |
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| redrobot | hyakuhei hangouts is pretty good, other than the 10 ppl cap... but I don't think that'll be an issue | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | cool, we’ll probably have a roomfull at teh OSSG end anyway :) | 17:23 |
| bdpayne | I wonder if we could setup a room with hangouts on a big screen | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | Any meetup related questions or queries | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | ? | 17:23 |
| tkelsey | +1 for Anchor <-> Barbican stuff | 17:24 |
| redrobot | bdpayne we did that for the meetup last cycle for a remote contributor and it worked out well. | 17:24 |
| bdpayne | when you say that you want a strong agenda... what are you looking for? | 17:24 |
| sigmavirus24 | (also hangouts can be livestreamed to twitter for people wishing to observe but not participate) | 17:24 |
| bdpayne | more? | 17:24 |
| bdpayne | more detail? | 17:24 |
| ukbelch | twitter? not youtube? :) | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | bdpayne: +1 | 17:24 |
| redrobot | I also want to run bandit on the barbican code base, but I've been slacking on it... gotta make some time for it soon. | 17:24 |
| tkelsey | redrobot: that would be very interesting | 17:24 |
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| hyakuhei | bdpayne: both really. | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | We are sending quite a few people :) | 17:26 |
| bdpayne | kk | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Summit | 17:26 |
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| hyakuhei | Who’s putting presentations in for the summit? | 17:26 |
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| ljfisher | o/ | 17:26 |
| nkinder | I'm working on one | 17:26 |
| ljfisher | need to touch base with nkinder on that | 17:27 |
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| hyakuhei | I’ll likely put in an abstract for the security group though I don’t know 100% if there’s a Security track atm. | 17:27 |
| bdpayne | I might... still tbd | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | there really should be a security track... | 17:27 |
| bdpayne | no security track again? that's a shame | 17:27 |
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| bknudson | security must be a solved problem. | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | All I’m saying is I’ve not had it confirmed | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | IT doesn’t sound like there’s many of us writing abstracts!? | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | I’ll put in a talk for Anchor too | 17:28 |
| sigmavirus24 | bknudson: it is a solved problem. Rub some crypto on it. Done. | 17:29 |
| nkinder | I know there are a number of barbican talks in the works | 17:29 |
| nkinder | ...so those would all line up with a security track | 17:29 |
| bdpayne | there's a potential 3rd one coming from Nebula, too | 17:29 |
| bdpayne | I won't steal his thunder | 17:29 |
| bdpayne | but we will have 2 or 3 total | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | “Cloud Security” is at least a Topic listed on the CFP | 17:29 |
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| hyakuhei | #topic Ghosts (GLIBC) | 17:31 |
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| hyakuhei | Sooo, it’s been a fun few days... | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | tkelsey was looking at an OSSN | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | dg was I think | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | In the same way that we’ve produced OSSN’s for other big new-grabbing vulns | 17:31 |
| tkelsey | yeah dg wanted to do it, so I punted to him :) | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: they both were but dg is late to the meeting so doesn’t get credit! | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | hah | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | haha ok, fair enough | 17:32 |
| tkelsey | lol, i'll take that :P | 17:32 |
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| hyakuhei | Ok, nkinder bdpayne thoughts on an OSSN for GLIBC/GHOST ? | 17:32 |
| nkinder | Seems like it'd be pretty basic, but sure. | 17:32 |
| bdpayne | I'm kind of meh on it, tbh | 17:32 |
| nkinder | Upgrade glibc | 17:33 |
| hyakuhei | Also more widely has anyone identified any strong OpenStack vectors to get user controlled domain names into an OpenStack cloud? | 17:33 |
| bdpayne | I feel like Ghost has been a touch overhyped | 17:33 |
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| nkinder | designate possibly? | 17:33 |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: I share some of the sentiment | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | but I also think there’ll be other processes (than exim) shown to be exploitable over the coming weeks | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | and its a big coordinated release with a logo etc so it’s good for us to have something documented | 17:34 |
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| hyakuhei | I think otherwise it looks like an obvious gap in the OSSNs | 17:34 |
| bdpayne | sure, I'm not against it if someone wants to do it | 17:35 |
| tkelsey | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:35 |
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| hyakuhei | Which, seem to have slowed down recently? nkinder is that the case? | 17:35 |
| tmcpeak | they do seem less frequent | 17:35 |
| nkinder | I'm not against it, but I do see us setting a precedent for releasing an OSSN for any CVE with a big splash | 17:36 |
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| nkinder | I don't really want to feel obligated to issue an OSSN just because of hype | 17:36 |
| bdpayne | speaking of OSSNs... I have a private security bug that may be an OSSN candidate | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: No but these happen rarely, once or twice per year… ? | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | I guess more to the point, are we still issuing notes for OpenStack bugs which would have traditionally gotten them? | 17:36 |
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| hyakuhei | bdpayne: That’s exciting | 17:37 |
| bdpayne | well, sort of | 17:37 |
| bdpayne | it means that the VMT doesn't want it | 17:37 |
| nkinder | tmcpeak: we should be | 17:37 |
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| dg_ | I did start drafting an OSSN in a spare moment yesterday, I'll try and get it finished and push it up, happy if we decide we dont need it thou. | 17:38 |
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| nkinder | tmcpeak: there's not much new in the queue that has been identified though (therre are some old ones though) | 17:38 |
| tmcpeak | it looks like from here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security_Notes some have been WIP for quite a while | 17:38 |
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| nkinder | tmcpeak: they just need to be picked up by anyone who has the spare cycles | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | So we could have a sprint on that at the Meetup? | 17:39 |
| bdpayne | nkinder and hyakuhei have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.config/+bug/1395575 (for others, this is still private for now, sorry) | 17:39 |
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| tmcpeak | this vswitch one is a nightmare: •https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=OSSN/OSSN-0040&action=edit&redlink=1 - Neutron LBaaS VIP port does not enforce security groups when used with Open VSwitch (work in progress) | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | this might be what derailed the notes :) | 17:40 |
| nkinder | bdpayne: interesting | 17:40 |
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| hyakuhei | Yeah interesting, VMT will punt that to OSSN I think | 17:40 |
| nkinder | yeah | 17:40 |
| hyakuhei | (without looking through the discussion) | 17:40 |
| hyakuhei | VMT really manages very-nasty-exploits more than security flaws and design issues | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | That’s what we’re for :) | 17:41 |
| nkinder | tmcpeak: the IdP one has some code going in which sort of resolves it, which I would like in the note | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: ahh | 17:41 |
| nkinder | I need to circle back and see if that has landed yet | 17:41 |
| bknudson | idp one? | 17:42 |
| nkinder | bknudson: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/+bug/1390124 | 17:42 |
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| nkinder | bknudson: this is one I discussed with Marek back in Paris | 17:43 |
| bknudson | an ossn for that makes sense. | 17:43 |
| nkinder | Yeah | 17:43 |
| bknudson | the doc change in keystone is fix released already | 17:43 |
| nkinder | ok, but there's a code change too IIRC | 17:43 |
| bknudson | there was a spec discussed at the meetup... | 17:44 |
| nkinder | where you can map an IdP identifier from the assertion and ensure it matches a particular IdP | 17:44 |
| bknudson | it's actually a nastier problem than I thought. | 17:44 |
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| bknudson | yes, that was it. | 17:44 |
| nkinder | SO right now, we could recommend a separate URL per IdP in the httpd.conf | 17:44 |
| nkinder | ...and you tie the IdP specific metadata and cert checking to that URL | 17:45 |
| nkinder | mod_shib or mod_auth_mellon will then protect that URL appropriately | 17:45 |
| nkinder | So we can do an OSSN with what we recommend now and then mention that future changes in Keystone to do an additional check are being developed | 17:46 |
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| bknudson | that sounds good. | 17:46 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Any Other Business | 17:46 |
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| elmiko | hyakuhei: i'd still like to do a hangout sometime, maybe we could look towards next week? | 17:47 |
| elmiko | mainly for talking about hadoop sec issues | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah, we didn’t really get beyond trying to set a time… | 17:48 |
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| elmiko | no worries, we can just try again =) | 17:49 |
| hyakuhei | :D | 17:49 |
| hyakuhei | Is there any thing else to discuss with you fine people? | 17:49 |
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| tkelsey | list of Anchor stuff in progress #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:stackforge/anchor+status:open,n,z | 17:50 |
| tkelsey | reviewers welcome :D | 17:50 |
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| hyakuhei | ok, I think that’s a wrap for today people :) | 17:51 |
| hyakuhei | TY! | 17:51 |
| bknudson | thanks | 17:51 |
| tkelsey | thanks hyakuhei | 17:51 |
| tmcpeak | cool, see ya | 17:51 |
| nkinder | thanks | 17:51 |
| hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 29 17:51:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-01-29-17.00.html | 17:51 |
| bpb_ | thanks | 17:51 |
| sarnold007 | bye | 17:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-01-29-17.00.txt | 17:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-01-29-17.00.log.html | 17:51 |
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| amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 18:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 29 18:59:20 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 18:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 18:59 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic RollCall | 18:59 |
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| amitgandhinz | hi | 18:59 |
| amitgandhinz | who do we have today? | 18:59 |
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| mpanetta | o/ | 19:00 |
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| wbrothers | wbrother o/ | 19:00 |
| catherineR | o/ | 19:00 |
| tonytan4ever | o/ | 19:00 |
| obulpathi | o/ | 19:00 |
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| mpanetta | The punman is here | 19:00 |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy | 19:00 |
| amitgandhinz | mpanetta: dont encourage him | 19:00 |
| amitgandhinz | he'll punish us | 19:01 |
| amitgandhinz | =P | 19:01 |
| mpanetta | I promise, I won't :P | 19:01 |
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| mpanetta | Oh god.. Not you too! | 19:01 |
| mpanetta | pun-ish hah | 19:01 |
| miqui | hello... | 19:01 |
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| wbrothers | BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA | 19:02 |
| megan_w_ | hi all | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | ok lets get started | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic Review Last Weeks Items | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-01-22-19.01.html | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | only one action item here | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | wbrothers to add doc to cdn vendor wiki page on how to add a mimic plugin for their api | 19:03 |
| * sriram is here | 19:03 | |
| obulpathi | hey sriram | 19:03 |
| obulpathi | welcome to poppy :) | 19:03 |
| mpanetta | Ooo! You joining us now? | 19:03 |
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| wbrothers | The initial wiki content is out there | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Poppy/Provider_-_Getting_Started/Mimic_Driver | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | very cool stuff | 19:03 |
| sriram | mpanetta: yep | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | this should really help the vendors (and anyone else) set up mimic drivers | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | thanks wbrothers | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | on a related note, i added a bunch of provider instructions also | 19:04 |
| wbrothers | Feel free to email if you have questions | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Poppy/Provider_-_Getting_Started#Building_a_Provider_Driver | 19:04 |
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| amitgandhinz | covering Poppy Features and configuring your provider driver, and running api tests | 19:05 |
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| amitgandhinz | i still need to do the step by step instructions on building a provider (thats up next =) ) | 19:05 |
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| amitgandhinz | but hopefully this will help edgecast and maxcdn get started with poppy | 19:05 |
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| amitgandhinz | i'd appreciate if others could start reviewing those provider instructions also | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | lets make these the best getting started docs in openstack! | 19:06 |
| miqui | +1 | 19:07 |
| tonytan4ever | +1 | 19:07 |
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| sriram | +2(^10) | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | #action everyone to review Getting Started guide for CDN providers | 19:07 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic Kilo-3 Updates (Bugs and Blueprints) | 19:08 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link https://launchpad.net/poppy/+milestone/kilo-3 | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | lets do bugs first | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1381091 | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | any progress on that? | 19:09 |
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| miqui | no, i have been focusing how to run poppy locally so that i can map the actions to their outputs in the domhedoc | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | ok. do you need any help on that? | 19:10 |
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| miqui | am taking time off tomorrow so that i can figure all this out... | 19:10 |
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| miqui | yes, i will ping some of you tomorrow our channel | 19:11 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok, please ask us in the channel for help if you need it. hopefully the docs are good, and if we need to add stuff this will be a good opportunity to discover missing instructions | 19:11 |
| miqui | sure... thanks... | 19:11 |
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| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1380679 | 19:12 |
| obulpathi | In review | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | ok cool. lets get it reviewed =) | 19:12 |
| obulpathi | I found only one place where the header was not used | 19:12 |
| obulpathi | it was a negative test | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:12 |
| obulpathi | so it was failing for wrong reason | 19:13 |
| obulpathi | fixed it | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1412557 | 19:13 |
| obulpathi | In review | 19:13 |
| obulpathi | Updated and added api tests | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | sweet! lets get that reviewed too =) | 19:13 |
| obulpathi | both negative and positive | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | and i completed this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1394720 | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | although i think something weird is happening as my master branch is now failing - im going to investigate why its no longer passing after the merge | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | ok moving on to blueprints | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: can you give us an update on the taskflow driver work (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/queue-driver) | 19:15 |
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| tonytan4ever | I'd say it's in good progress. A minimal example of poppy running job board worker/task_submitter is done now. | 19:15 |
| miqui | on that one, what was finally decided? | 19:15 |
| miqui | rabbitmq and tf ? | 19:15 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui: taskflow was decided in last weeks meeting | 19:16 |
| tonytan4ever | We use task flow job board paradigm | 19:16 |
| tonytan4ever | which only utilizes a backend zookeeper. | 19:16 |
| tonytan4ever | No rabbit-mq needed. | 19:16 |
| sriram | tonytan4ever: cool is it using conductors now? | 19:16 |
| miqui | k, i was not sure since we mentioned to investigate both celery and tf | 19:16 |
| tonytan4ever | Yes. | 19:16 |
| sriram | awesome. | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui: last week the majority had voted on TF | 19:17 |
| miqui | k | 19:17 |
| tonytan4ever | TaskFlow itself supports multiple backends, including rabbitmq, but the job-board/conductor mode only have support with zookeeper. | 19:17 |
| sriram | yes, correct. | 19:17 |
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| tonytan4ever | And the normal worker/engine-run mode does not support asynchrounous task execution. | 19:18 |
| tonytan4ever | So it is not applicable for poppy, we want the task to be async. | 19:18 |
| tonytan4ever | And the normal worker/engine-run mode does have rabbitmq backend/ | 19:18 |
| mpanetta | So we are dropping the rabbitmq requirement? | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | so we need the conductor to have async? | 19:19 |
| tonytan4ever | So I have built a prototype of the taskflow "distributed_task" driver. | 19:19 |
| tonytan4ever | amitgandhinz: That's right. | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | do we need rabbit at all then? | 19:20 |
| tonytan4ever | mpanetta: We gotta drop rabbitmq, but need zookeeper. | 19:20 |
| mpanetta | I was wondering the same... | 19:20 |
| mpanetta | Ok | 19:20 |
| miqui | hmmm... | 19:20 |
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| tonytan4ever | We don't need rabbitmq at all. | 19:20 |
| miqui | so its zookeeper and tf.... | 19:20 |
| tonytan4ever | Yep | 19:20 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: the conductor executes in the background, AFAIK. and we can have it post results somewhere that would be accessible by the location href provided on the first call. | 19:20 |
| sriram | no rabbitmq at all. | 19:21 |
| miqui | is this apache zookeeper right? | 19:21 |
| sriram | yep | 19:21 |
| tonytan4ever | sriram: All our background task just returns a 202, so no href link is not needed to return to the response. | 19:22 |
| sriram | ah, I see. | 19:22 |
| sriram | cool | 19:22 |
| tonytan4ever | I mean background task http response. | 19:22 |
| sriram | so there is no explicit check on when something is finished? | 19:22 |
| sriram | pardon my ignorance, I havent looked into the code yet. | 19:23 |
| tonytan4ever | We do want to utilize the retry/task dependency feature of taskflow to have finer control of the background task | 19:23 |
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| amitgandhinz | eventually we may return progress indicators, but that is out of scope (nie to have) at this point | 19:24 |
| amitgandhinz | s/nie/nice | 19:24 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: cool | 19:24 |
| tonytan4ever | Right now we don't check the "finished" state per se, but that's something we have in our eyes. | 19:24 |
| sriram | understood, thanks for explaining. | 19:24 |
| tonytan4ever | That's it for me. | 19:24 |
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| amitgandhinz | cool. it sounds like good progress is being made on this | 19:25 |
| amitgandhinz | ok next bp assigned is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/cookie-rules | 19:25 |
| amitgandhinz | TBH i havent done anything on this yet | 19:25 |
| amitgandhinz | ive thought about it a little though | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | im going to have to add a new section into our service config to store "content rules" | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | this is where the "cookie forwarding" rules would live, as well as header forwarding, and geo rules | 19:26 |
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| amitgandhinz | i'll spec it up over the next week in apiary and send it out for review before implementing | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | unfortuantely it didnt fit into any of our existing sections as its not a restriction, and doesnt have a ttl associated with it | 19:27 |
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| amitgandhinz | also, with the new section, it also means a new column in our services columnfamily in casssandra | 19:28 |
| amitgandhinz | which means a schema update | 19:28 |
| amitgandhinz | which means we need to implement https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/cassandra-schema-versioning before i can do this story | 19:28 |
| amitgandhinz | (or do it as part of that story) | 19:28 |
| amitgandhinz | ok.... | 19:29 |
| tonytan4ever | One question | 19:29 |
| amitgandhinz | sure | 19:29 |
| tonytan4ever | So we need one generic 'content rule' section for the cookie fowarding rule, or we need three sections for cookie fowarding, header fowarding, and geo rules, respectively ? | 19:30 |
| amitgandhinz | im thinking at this point it would be one generic 'content_rules' section, and it would contain the ability to set each of those rules | 19:30 |
| amitgandhinz | similar to how we have one restrictions section where we can set 'referrer', 'clientip', 'method', etc | 19:31 |
| amitgandhinz | we would have one 'content rules' section where we set the rules with maybe a type, and values... | 19:31 |
| amitgandhinz | im still designing how it should work | 19:31 |
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| tonytan4ever | K. | 19:31 |
| amitgandhinz | but im trying to minimize sections | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | try to design in a generic way that gives us future proof | 19:32 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/home-doc | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | i guess this is dependant on getting your local env up and running | 19:33 |
| miqui | correct... | 19:33 |
| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:33 |
| miqui | amd going to dedicate all day on that tomorrow... | 19:33 |
| amitgandhinz | cool | 19:33 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/mimic-racksapce-dns | 19:33 |
| obulpathi | I did not make any progress on this | 19:33 |
| miqui | once i get past this then i can then at least see the output each route/service.. | 19:33 |
| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:34 |
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| amitgandhinz | any other blueprints in progress that we have not discussed> | 19:34 |
| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:35 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic New Items | 19:35 |
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| amitgandhinz | nothing to see here | 19:35 |
| amitgandhinz | moving on =P | 19:35 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Open Discussion | 19:35 |
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| amitgandhinz | any one have a topic they want to discuss? | 19:35 |
| sriram | is there anything I need to know, on getting started with poppy? | 19:36 |
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| amitgandhinz | sriram: yes! | 19:36 |
| sriram | any gotchas etc. | 19:36 |
| amitgandhinz | first you have to pass the drug test | 19:36 |
| amitgandhinz | =P | 19:36 |
| amitgandhinz | then.... | 19:36 |
| miqui | i did! | 19:36 |
| sriram | haha :P | 19:36 |
| mpanetta | Don't take a drug test immediately after coding | 19:36 |
| amitgandhinz | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Poppy | 19:37 |
| sriram | what if I monkey-patch myself? | 19:37 |
| sriram | ;) | 19:37 |
| mpanetta | That sounds painful | 19:37 |
| tonytan4ever | What happens with coding while in-poppy-cated ? | 19:37 |
| sriram | ha. | 19:37 |
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| miqui | zuul gates get you! | 19:38 |
| amitgandhinz | since you are already familiar with openstack projects, that part should be a breeze | 19:38 |
| mpanetta | I wanna kill pip right about now :P | 19:38 |
| mpanetta | Or maybe PBR, I can't tell which | 19:38 |
| sriram | cool, I'll look up the wiki and learn what I can. | 19:38 |
| miqui | what is PBR? | 19:38 |
| amitgandhinz | we use docker a lot locally (for running cassandra) | 19:38 |
| sriram | miqui: python build readiness. | 19:39 |
| amitgandhinz | pbr is a beer | 19:39 |
| miqui | ahahahaha | 19:39 |
| sriram | miqui: helps to easily bootstrap python projects. | 19:39 |
| mpanetta | That, and python build reasonableness | 19:39 |
| mpanetta | Beer sounds better tho :P | 19:39 |
| sriram | err, mpanetta is right. | 19:39 |
| sriram | not readiness, lol. | 19:40 |
| miqui | so, as far as zookeer.... | 19:40 |
| mpanetta | To be fair, I was just on the page yesterday :P | 19:40 |
| miqui | i guess we have to ramp up on this... | 19:40 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: I see. | 19:40 |
| amitgandhinz | yeh taskflow seems to be built to only support zookeeper as of now | 19:40 |
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| amitgandhinz | sriram: so docker will be your friend for running cassandra locally, and running api tests, mimic etc | 19:41 |
| sriram | is that a development thing? I have cassandra running locally on my box. | 19:41 |
| amitgandhinz | thats fine too if you like java on your box =P | 19:41 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: ah, I see. so provides a clean slate everytime. :) | 19:41 |
| amitgandhinz | yup | 19:41 |
| sriram | cool, I can do that as well. | 19:41 |
| amitgandhinz | besides that, we use pecan | 19:41 |
| sriram | yeah, have worked with pecan before. | 19:42 |
| miqui | sriram: docker.io | 19:42 |
| amitgandhinz | for the providers, you can sign up for a free account at fastly and set up the fastly provider | 19:42 |
| miqui | it is awesome... | 19:42 |
| sriram | miqui: I'll check it out, thanks. | 19:42 |
| mpanetta | Fastly has free accounts? | 19:42 |
| amitgandhinz | well its a limit of free for n requests | 19:42 |
| amitgandhinz | and n is pretty high | 19:43 |
| sriram | I have to rate-limit myself then, :P | 19:43 |
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| mpanetta | Neat-o | 19:43 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: will sign up for an account. | 19:44 |
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| * amitgandhinz back. my network died for some reason | 19:45 | |
| amitgandhinz | ok, any other topics to discuss? | 19:45 |
| sriram | nope. I'll begin to get myself familiar with poppy. | 19:46 |
| miqui | not from me.. | 19:46 |
| amitgandhinz | ok, thanks everyone | 19:47 |
| amitgandhinz | you all get 13 min back =) | 19:47 |
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| amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 19:47 |
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| sriram | see ya | 19:47 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 29 19:47:40 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-01-29-18.59.html | 19:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-01-29-18.59.txt | 19:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-01-29-18.59.log.html | 19:47 |
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