| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:00 | |
| *** dane_leblanc has quit IRC | 00:01 | |
| *** sigmavirus24 is now known as sigmavirus24_awa | 00:01 | |
| *** sigmavirus24_awa is now known as sigmavirus24 | 00:01 | |
| *** shayneburgess has quit IRC | 00:03 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 00:05 | |
| *** shwetaap has quit IRC | 00:05 | |
| *** salv-orlando has quit IRC | 00:06 | |
| *** devlaps has quit IRC | 00:07 | |
| *** xuhanp has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:07 | |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 00:09 | |
| *** balajiiyer has quit IRC | 00:11 | |
| *** jorgem has quit IRC | 00:11 | |
| *** xuhanp has quit IRC | 00:12 | |
| *** xuhanp has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:12 | |
| *** daneyon_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:14 | |
| *** Riddhi has quit IRC | 00:14 | |
| *** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:16 | |
| *** daneyon has quit IRC | 00:16 | |
| *** avozza is now known as zz_avozza | 00:17 | |
| *** ajo has quit IRC | 00:17 | |
| *** jaypipes has quit IRC | 00:18 | |
| *** jungleboyj has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:18 | |
| *** xuhanp has quit IRC | 00:19 | |
| *** ijw has quit IRC | 00:19 | |
| *** zz_avozza is now known as avozza | 00:19 | |
| *** banix has quit IRC | 00:20 | |
| *** xuhanp has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:20 | |
| *** mattgriffin has quit IRC | 00:21 | |
| *** nelsnelson has quit IRC | 00:22 | |
| *** radez is now known as radez_g0n3 | 00:22 | |
| *** nelsnelson has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:28 | |
| *** EricGonczer_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:31 | |
| *** annashen has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:37 | |
| *** xuhanp has quit IRC | 00:38 | |
| *** mattgriffin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:39 | |
| *** dougwig is now known as dougwig_the_rude | 00:41 | |
| *** dougwig_the_rude is now known as dougwig | 00:42 | |
| *** teran has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:44 | |
| *** teran has quit IRC | 00:50 | |
| *** nikhil_k has quit IRC | 00:54 | |
| *** bradjones has quit IRC | 00:55 | |
| *** teran has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:55 | |
| *** vishwanathj has quit IRC | 00:56 | |
| *** bradjones has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:58 | |
| *** bradjones has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:58 | |
| *** annashen has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** shayneburgess has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:00 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:00 | |
| *** zhhuabj has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:01 | |
| *** zhhuabj has quit IRC | 01:01 | |
| *** rmoe has quit IRC | 01:01 | |
| *** shaohe_feng has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:04 | |
| *** zhhuabj has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:04 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 01:05 | |
| *** EricGonczer_ has quit IRC | 01:05 | |
| *** ian_ott has quit IRC | 01:07 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has quit IRC | 01:09 | |
| *** SridharRamaswamy has quit IRC | 01:15 | |
| *** jungleboyj has quit IRC | 01:15 | |
| *** rmoe has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:16 | |
| *** kebray has quit IRC | 01:17 | |
| *** aj74 has quit IRC | 01:18 | |
| *** markmcclain has quit IRC | 01:18 | |
| *** markmcclain has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:20 | |
| *** yapeng has quit IRC | 01:21 | |
| *** tsekiyam_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:23 | |
| *** tsekiyama has quit IRC | 01:26 | |
| *** rondotco_ has quit IRC | 01:27 | |
| *** tsekiyam_ has quit IRC | 01:28 | |
| *** mtanino has quit IRC | 01:28 | |
| *** rondotcom has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:33 | |
| *** sigmavirus24 is now known as sigmavirus24_awa | 01:34 | |
| *** avozza is now known as zz_avozza | 01:34 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 01:36 | |
| *** gyee has quit IRC | 01:36 | |
| *** dims__ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:37 | |
| *** rondotcom has quit IRC | 01:37 | |
| *** rondotcom has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:41 | |
| *** toobad has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:43 | |
| *** xuhanp has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:44 | |
| *** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:45 | |
| *** yapeng has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:49 | |
| *** shayneburgess has quit IRC | 01:50 | |
| *** mattgriffin has quit IRC | 01:52 | |
| *** EricGonczer_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:52 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:53 | |
| *** nosnos has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:54 | |
| *** markmcclain has quit IRC | 01:55 | |
| *** rondotcom has quit IRC | 01:55 | |
| *** zz_avozza is now known as avozza | 01:55 | |
| *** Murali has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:58 | |
| *** salv-orlando has quit IRC | 01:58 | |
| *** rondotcom has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:00 | |
| *** mrmartin has quit IRC | 02:00 | |
| *** noslzzp has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:00 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:01 | |
| *** shwetaap has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:02 | |
| *** toobad has quit IRC | 02:04 | |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:05 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 02:06 | |
| *** shwetaap has quit IRC | 02:09 | |
| *** teran_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:09 | |
| *** teran has quit IRC | 02:12 | |
| *** avozza is now known as zz_avozza | 02:12 | |
| *** esheffield has quit IRC | 02:15 | |
| *** julim has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:16 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 02:20 | |
| *** fito has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:21 | |
| *** teran has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:24 | |
| *** teran_ has quit IRC | 02:27 | |
| *** EricGonczer_ has quit IRC | 02:41 | |
| *** Murali has quit IRC | 02:41 | |
| *** EricGonczer_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:44 | |
| *** Riddhi has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:48 | |
| *** erkules has quit IRC | 02:52 | |
| *** qwebirc52590 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:53 | |
| *** EricGonczer_ has quit IRC | 02:53 | |
| *** shaohe_feng has quit IRC | 02:55 | |
| *** annashen has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:56 | |
| *** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 03:00 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 03:03 | |
| *** shwetaap has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 03:05 | |
| *** markmcclain has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 03:05 | |
| *** salv-orlando has quit IRC | 03:07 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 03:08 | |
| *** shwetaap has quit IRC | 03:11 | |
| *** kebray has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 03:18 | |
| *** armax has quit IRC | 03:18 | |
| *** kebray has quit IRC | 03:19 | |
| *** zz_avozza is now known as avozza | 03:20 | |
| *** kebray has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 03:20 | |
| *** noslzzp has quit IRC | 03:24 | |
| *** noslzzp has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 03:25 | |
| *** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck | 03:25 | |
| *** avozza is now known as zz_avozza | 03:30 | |
| *** pballand has quit IRC | 03:30 | |
| *** yamahata has quit IRC | 03:31 | |
| *** kebray has quit IRC | 03:35 | |
| *** noslzzp has quit IRC | 03:37 | |
| *** mattgriffin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 03:37 | |
| *** reed has quit IRC | 03:38 | |
| *** nosnos has quit IRC | 03:43 | |
| *** SridharG has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 03:48 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has quit IRC | 03:53 | |
| *** mattgriffin has quit IRC | 03:53 | |
| *** mattgriffin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 03:55 | |
| *** annashen has quit IRC | 03:55 | |
| *** kebray has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 03:59 | |
| *** erkules has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:01 | |
| *** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:04 | |
| *** dims__ has quit IRC | 04:06 | |
| *** dims__ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:08 | |
| *** salv-orlando has quit IRC | 04:08 | |
| *** jungleboyj has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:09 | |
| *** IgorYozhikov has quit IRC | 04:10 | |
| *** IgorYozhikov has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:10 | |
| *** dims__ has quit IRC | 04:11 | |
| *** yapeng has quit IRC | 04:13 | |
| *** sdake has quit IRC | 04:13 | |
| *** yapeng has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:14 | |
| *** carl_baldwin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:16 | |
| *** kebray has quit IRC | 04:17 | |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 04:17 | |
| *** banix has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:18 | |
| *** yapeng has quit IRC | 04:18 | |
| *** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:24 | |
| *** Riddhi has quit IRC | 04:26 | |
| *** annashen has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:28 | |
| *** markmcclain has quit IRC | 04:33 | |
| *** nosnos has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:36 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:37 | |
| *** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck | 04:41 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 04:41 | |
| *** annashen has quit IRC | 04:42 | |
| *** armax has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:43 | |
| *** Longgeek has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:45 | |
| *** david-lyle has quit IRC | 04:50 | |
| *** watanabe_isao has quit IRC | 04:51 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:51 | |
| *** watanabe_isao has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:51 | |
| *** rondotcom has quit IRC | 04:53 | |
| *** banix has quit IRC | 04:53 | |
| *** rondotcom has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:53 | |
| *** irenab has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:55 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 04:56 | |
| *** amcrn has quit IRC | 05:00 | |
| *** annashen has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:00 | |
| *** kebray has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:00 | |
| *** markmcclain has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:05 | |
| *** zz_avozza is now known as avozza | 05:09 | |
| *** annashen has quit IRC | 05:10 | |
| *** avozza is now known as zz_avozza | 05:18 | |
| *** annashen has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:19 | |
| *** annashen has quit IRC | 05:19 | |
| *** arnaud__ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:22 | |
| *** Murali has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:22 | |
| *** markmcclain has quit IRC | 05:23 | |
| *** annashen has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:26 | |
| *** SridharG has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:27 | |
| *** irenab has quit IRC | 05:30 | |
| *** annashen has quit IRC | 05:30 | |
| *** nshaikh has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:36 | |
| *** eghobo has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:45 | |
| *** carl_baldwin has quit IRC | 05:52 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:52 | |
| *** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:55 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 05:57 | |
| *** salv-orlando has quit IRC | 06:02 | |
| *** yapeng has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 06:03 | |
| *** eghobo has quit IRC | 06:04 | |
| *** SridharG has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 06:05 | |
| *** prmtl has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 06:06 | |
| *** yapeng has quit IRC | 06:08 | |
| *** kobis has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 06:08 | |
| *** shwetaap has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 06:09 | |
| *** zz_avozza is now known as avozza | 06:10 | |
| *** nelsnelson has quit IRC | 06:12 | |
| *** nelsnelson has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 06:13 | |
| *** shwetaap has quit IRC | 06:16 | |
| *** avozza is now known as zz_avozza | 06:20 | |
| *** kebray has quit IRC | 06:21 | |
| *** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 06:25 | |
| *** mattgriffin has quit IRC | 06:33 | |
| *** nshaikh has quit IRC | 06:41 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 06:53 | |
| *** ajo has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 06:53 | |
| *** stamak has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 06:56 | |
| *** nkrinner has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 06:57 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 06:57 | |
| *** mrmartin has quit IRC | 07:02 | |
| *** Longgeek has quit IRC | 07:02 | |
| *** Longgeek has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:03 | |
| *** coolsvap|afk is now known as coolsvap | 07:08 | |
| *** woodster_ has quit IRC | 07:10 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:11 | |
| *** shwetaap has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:12 | |
| *** shwetaap has quit IRC | 07:17 | |
| *** irenab has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:17 | |
| *** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:22 | |
| *** armax has quit IRC | 07:29 | |
| *** arnaud__ has quit IRC | 07:30 | |
| *** stamak has quit IRC | 07:33 | |
| *** mestery has quit IRC | 07:33 | |
| *** k4n0 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:38 | |
| *** zz_avozza is now known as avozza | 07:41 | |
| *** k4n0 has quit IRC | 07:42 | |
| *** nshaikh has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:51 | |
| *** avozza is now known as zz_avozza | 07:51 | |
| *** yapeng has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:52 | |
| *** irenab has quit IRC | 07:52 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 07:54 | |
| *** irenab has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:54 | |
| *** yapeng has quit IRC | 07:57 | |
| *** shardy_z is now known as shardy | 08:01 | |
| *** mrmartin has quit IRC | 08:05 | |
| *** jtomasek has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:09 | |
| *** shaohe_feng has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:12 | |
| *** prmtl has quit IRC | 08:13 | |
| *** matrohon has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:13 | |
| *** mestery has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:14 | |
| *** shwetaap has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:15 | |
| *** sgotliv has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:18 | |
| *** sergef has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:22 | |
| *** shwetaap has quit IRC | 08:22 | |
| *** prmtl has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:23 | |
| *** crc32 has quit IRC | 08:23 | |
| *** jprovazn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:24 | |
| *** zz_avozza is now known as avozza | 08:26 | |
| *** ndipanov has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:29 | |
| *** jkraj has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:40 | |
| *** pnavarro has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:47 | |
| *** watanabe_isao has quit IRC | 08:47 | |
| *** avozza is now known as zz_avozza | 08:48 | |
| *** qwebirc89656 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:49 | |
| *** qwebirc52590 has quit IRC | 08:52 | |
| *** fzdarsky has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:52 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:54 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 08:59 | |
| *** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:00 | |
| *** safchain has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:01 | |
| *** andreykurilin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:01 | |
| *** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:01 | |
| *** salv-orlando has quit IRC | 09:06 | |
| *** fzdarsky_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:06 | |
| *** zz_johnthetubagu is now known as johnthetubaguy | 09:08 | |
| *** xuhanp has quit IRC | 09:08 | |
| *** yamahata has quit IRC | 09:13 | |
| *** HeOS has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:15 | |
| *** derekh has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:17 | |
| *** shwetaap has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:18 | |
| *** fzdarsky_ has quit IRC | 09:19 | |
| *** shaohe_feng has quit IRC | 09:22 | |
| *** sbalukoff has quit IRC | 09:23 | |
| *** shwetaap has quit IRC | 09:26 | |
| *** dalgaaf has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:26 | |
| *** thomnico has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:28 | |
| *** obondarev has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:28 | |
| *** jcoufal has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:29 | |
| *** andreaf has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:37 | |
| *** yapeng has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:41 | |
| *** yapeng has quit IRC | 09:45 | |
| *** andreykurilin has quit IRC | 09:45 | |
| *** qwebirc89656 has quit IRC | 09:50 | |
| *** sgotliv has quit IRC | 09:52 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:56 | |
| *** thomnico has quit IRC | 10:00 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 10:00 | |
| *** nelsnelson has quit IRC | 10:01 | |
| *** nelsnelson has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:02 | |
| *** sgotliv has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:06 | |
| *** Murali has quit IRC | 10:16 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:23 | |
| *** sbalukoff has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:27 | |
| *** rushiagr_away is now known as rushiagr | 10:32 | |
| *** rushiagr is now known as rushiagr_away | 10:33 | |
| *** dims__ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:34 | |
| *** thomnico has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:34 | |
| *** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:34 | |
| *** dims__ has quit IRC | 10:38 | |
| *** stamak has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:46 | |
| *** e0ne_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:48 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 10:48 | |
| *** kobis has quit IRC | 10:50 | |
| *** noslzzp has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:56 | |
| *** fzdarsky is now known as fzdarsky-lunch | 11:09 | |
| *** deepakcs has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 11:10 | |
| *** irenab has quit IRC | 11:11 | |
| *** marun has quit IRC | 11:13 | |
| *** denis_makogon has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 11:23 | |
| *** yapeng has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 11:30 | |
| *** teran has quit IRC | 11:31 | |
| *** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 11:34 | |
| *** yapeng has quit IRC | 11:34 | |
| *** bobmel has quit IRC | 11:34 | |
| *** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 11:35 | |
| *** bobmel_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 11:36 | |
| *** bobmel has quit IRC | 11:39 | |
| *** Murali has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 11:49 | |
| *** prmtl has quit IRC | 11:51 | |
| *** nelsnelson has quit IRC | 11:54 | |
| *** teran has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 11:54 | |
| *** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 11:55 | |
| *** bobmel_ has quit IRC | 11:58 | |
| *** irenab has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:02 | |
| *** dims__ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:05 | |
| *** teran_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:11 | |
| *** teran has quit IRC | 12:13 | |
| *** SridharG has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:18 | |
| *** _amrith_ is now known as amrith | 12:21 | |
| *** fzdarsky-lunch is now known as fzdarsky | 12:21 | |
| *** dims__ has quit IRC | 12:25 | |
| *** ybabenko has quit IRC | 12:28 | |
| *** woodster_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:29 | |
| *** nosnos has quit IRC | 12:30 | |
| *** mwagner_lap has quit IRC | 12:34 | |
| *** deepakcs has quit IRC | 12:35 | |
| *** teran_ has quit IRC | 12:37 | |
| *** derekh has quit IRC | 12:38 | |
| *** teran has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:44 | |
| *** dims__ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:49 | |
| *** prmtl has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:52 | |
| *** derekh has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:52 | |
| *** shwetaap has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:52 | |
| *** zehicle_ has quit IRC | 12:57 | |
| *** prmtl has quit IRC | 12:57 | |
| *** sgotliv_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:59 | |
| *** sgotliv has quit IRC | 13:00 | |
| *** chen has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:07 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:07 | |
| *** kobis has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:10 | |
| *** banix has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:10 | |
| *** dprince has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:10 | |
| *** shwetaap has quit IRC | 13:16 | |
| *** wbrothers has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:18 | |
| *** yapeng has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:19 | |
| *** banix has quit IRC | 13:19 | |
| *** xuhanp has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:20 | |
| *** teran_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:20 | |
| *** zz_avozza is now known as avozza | 13:21 | |
| *** teran has quit IRC | 13:23 | |
| *** yapeng has quit IRC | 13:23 | |
| *** mwagner_lap has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:24 | |
| *** rprakash has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:26 | |
| *** abhishekk has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:27 | |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:28 | |
| *** satish has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:30 | |
| *** prmtl has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:32 | |
| *** kobis1 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:39 | |
| *** kobis has quit IRC | 13:39 | |
| *** TobiasE has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:46 | |
| *** jehb_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:46 | |
| *** jcoufal_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:49 | |
| *** Murali has quit IRC | 13:49 | |
| *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:49 | |
| *** noslzzp has quit IRC | 13:50 | |
| *** SridharG has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:50 | |
| *** e0ne_ has quit IRC | 13:51 | |
| *** jcoufal has quit IRC | 13:52 | |
| *** gilmeir has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:52 | |
| *** avozza is now known as zz_avozza | 13:54 | |
| *** vponomaryov has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:56 | |
| *** jungleboyj has quit IRC | 13:56 | |
| *** steveg has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:57 | |
| *** jaypipes has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:58 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:58 | |
| *** VW_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:59 | |
| *** heyongli- has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:59 | |
| johnthetubaguy | nova meeting is in #openstack-meeting today | 14:00 |
|---|---|---|
| *** wznoinsk has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:00 | |
| *** moshele has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:01 | |
| *** HeOS has quit IRC | 14:02 | |
| *** HeOS has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:04 | |
| *** dane_leblanc has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:07 | |
| *** noslzzp has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:07 | |
| *** prmtl has quit IRC | 14:10 | |
| *** jprovazn has quit IRC | 14:11 | |
| *** noslzzp has quit IRC | 14:11 | |
| *** amrith is now known as _amrith_ | 14:11 | |
| *** thomasem has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:12 | |
| *** esker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:12 | |
| *** nuritv_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:13 | |
| *** esker has quit IRC | 14:13 | |
| *** nuritv_ has quit IRC | 14:13 | |
| *** noslzzp has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:14 | |
| *** thomasem has quit IRC | 14:16 | |
| *** ndipanov has quit IRC | 14:19 | |
| *** thomasem has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:19 | |
| *** thomasem has quit IRC | 14:19 | |
| *** ndipanov has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:21 | |
| *** Barker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:23 | |
| *** thomasem has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:24 | |
| *** betsy has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:24 | |
| *** gilmeir has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:25 | |
| *** moshele has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:26 | |
| *** sigmavirus24_awa is now known as sigmavirus24 | 14:27 | |
| *** mrmartin has quit IRC | 14:27 | |
| *** shwetaap has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:28 | |
| *** jcoufal_ is now known as jcoufal | 14:29 | |
| *** Riddhi has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:30 | |
| *** irenab has quit IRC | 14:33 | |
| *** nshaikh has quit IRC | 14:33 | |
| *** Riddhi has quit IRC | 14:34 | |
| *** nikhil_k has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:37 | |
| *** dbhaskaran has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:38 | |
| *** mattgriffin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:38 | |
| *** miqui_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:41 | |
| *** thangp has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:42 | |
| *** mattfarina has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:44 | |
| *** pkoniszewski has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:46 | |
| *** balajiiyer has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:47 | |
| *** bobmel_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:50 | |
| *** bobmel_ has quit IRC | 14:50 | |
| *** bobmel_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:51 | |
| *** jprovazn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:51 | |
| *** carl_baldwin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:52 | |
| *** teran_ has quit IRC | 14:52 | |
| *** bobmel has quit IRC | 14:52 | |
| *** abhishekk has quit IRC | 14:55 | |
| *** mattfarina has quit IRC | 14:57 | |
| *** mattfarina has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:57 | |
| *** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:57 | |
| *** csaba has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:58 | |
| *** bswartz has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:59 | |
| *** KLevenstein has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:59 | |
| *** nileshb has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:59 | |
| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| *** jasonsb_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 8 15:00:16 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| *** KLevenstein has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:00 | |
| *** xyang1 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:00 | |
| vponomaryov | Hello | 15:00 |
| chen | hello | 15:00 |
| xyang1 | hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:00 |
| jasonsb_ | hny | 15:00 |
| nileshb | hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hope you all took some time off over the holidays | 15:00 |
| bswartz | and happy new year! | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #topic dev status | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "dev status (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: I know you've been busy | 15:01 |
| vponomaryov | dev status: | 15:01 |
| *** irenab has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:02 | |
| vponomaryov | 1) Tempest CI jobs for Manila have been improved and now should be more stable. | 15:02 |
| bswartz | merging a lot of tempest-stability patches | 15:02 |
| vponomaryov | 2) Manage/unmanage shares/share-servers | 15:02 |
| vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/manage-shares | 15:02 |
| vponomaryov | status: work in progress | 15:02 |
| vponomaryov | 3) Single SVM mode for Generic driver | 15:02 |
| vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/single-svm-mode-for-generic-driver | 15:02 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142403/ | 15:02 |
| vponomaryov | that's the main, other are whistles and bells | 15:02 |
| bswartz | is there a WIP for (2)? | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | (2) contains lots of subtasks | 15:03 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:03 |
| bswartz | oh I see them | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | so, BP over all is in WIP | 15:03 |
| *** EricGonczer_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:04 | |
| bswartz | 3 changes in gerrit | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | will be more | 15:04 |
| *** lgreg_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:04 | |
| bswartz | yeah I'm sure | 15:04 |
| *** TravT has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:04 | |
| bswartz | ty vponomaryov | 15:04 |
| bswartz | anyone have questions about the above? | 15:04 |
| *** ChuckC has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:05 | |
| bswartz | I have a 1 question | 15:05 |
| *** ndipanov has quit IRC | 15:05 | |
| bswartz | why do our tempest-dsvm jobs sometime still fail? | 15:05 |
| bswartz | I saw one failure this morning | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | this time devstack did not start | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | at all | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | happens | 15:05 |
| bswartz | anything we can do about that? | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | I do not think so | 15:06 |
| bswartz | why don't other projects have this issue? | 15:06 |
| *** dboik has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:06 | |
| vponomaryov | who said this? | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | When we pushed fix to Cinder | 15:07 |
| bswartz | I'm asking because my next question is, can we make the tempest-dsvm jobs voting now? | 15:07 |
| vponomaryov | it succeded only from third attempt | 15:07 |
| *** nileshb has quit IRC | 15:07 | |
| vponomaryov | bswartz; I think yes | 15:07 |
| bswartz | ok | 15:07 |
| vponomaryov | this time is near | 15:07 |
| bswartz | thanks great news | 15:07 |
| *** yapeng has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:08 | |
| *** diemt has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:08 | |
| bswartz | next topic | 15:08 |
| bswartz | #topic rename driver mode | 15:08 |
| *** MikeM_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:08 | |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rename driver mode (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:08 | |
| bswartz | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-January/053960.html | 15:08 |
| bswartz | chen, you're up | 15:08 |
| chen | I want to change current driver mode name because they're confusing | 15:08 |
| *** ganso1 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:09 | |
| *** teran_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:09 | |
| chen | I'd like to suggest, change single_svm_mode to static mod_mode and multi_svm_mode to dynamic_mode | 15:09 |
| csaba | chen: mod_mode? | 15:09 |
| chen | static_mode | 15:10 |
| bswartz | thanks for putting much of the discussion on the ML | 15:10 |
| chen | sorry | 15:10 |
| csaba | ok | 15:10 |
| *** _amrith_ is now known as amrith | 15:10 | |
| bswartz | I read through the thread and responded with my comments | 15:10 |
| chen | I see | 15:10 |
| bswartz | those of you who haven't followed should read the ML | 15:10 |
| bswartz | chen I agree with you | 15:10 |
| bswartz | the names are probably a bit confusing and could be better | 15:11 |
| *** mtanino has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:11 | |
| *** rushil has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:12 | |
| bswartz | so first of all, does anyone disagree and want to keep the current names? | 15:12 |
| bswartz | current driver modes are "single_svm" and "multi_svm" | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | I do mind with 'static' and 'dynamic' | 15:12 |
| *** yapeng has quit IRC | 15:13 | |
| bswartz | single_svm mode implies no share servers will be created, and no networking config is needed within manila | 15:13 |
| xyang1 | the current names are okay with me as those were proposed from the start | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | we can rename, but need good new names | 15:13 |
| xyang1 | I don't like static | 15:13 |
| bswartz | multi_svm mode implies that share servers will be created and they will consume network resources | 15:13 |
| *** balajiiyer has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:13 | |
| *** lpabon has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:14 | |
| vponomaryov | either created or reused. relation 1:many | 15:14 |
| lpabon | o/ (late) | 15:14 |
| jasonsb_ | from practical aspect i think pattern is multi-svm is more close to east-west traffic | 15:14 |
| jasonsb_ | and single is more north-south | 15:14 |
| ganso1 | I am not a big fan of the new names | 15:15 |
| bswartz | I think one valid complain is that "svm" is an ancronym not used elsewhere and not understood | 15:15 |
| *** TravT has quit IRC | 15:15 | |
| *** akerr_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:15 | |
| jasonsb_ | but i suspect it will change alot over time | 15:15 |
| lpabon | ganso1: bswartz, i agree | 15:15 |
| vponomaryov | ganso also proposed in manila chat variants 'basic' and 'advanced' | 15:15 |
| bswartz | no_share_servers and multi_share_servers might be more accurate | 15:15 |
| ganso1 | bswartz: definitely | 15:16 |
| *** dboik_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:16 | |
| ganso1 | I think the term "Share_server" must be included | 15:16 |
| *** HeOS has quit IRC | 15:16 | |
| ganso1 | it is the term we are using throughout Manila | 15:16 |
| xyang1 | basic and advanced are not good. it implies drivers supporting basic is not as good | 15:16 |
| lpabon | bswartz: from my point of view, it seems that no_share_servers have no shares.. is that what is meant? | 15:16 |
| bswartz | xyang1: +1 | 15:16 |
| toabctl | xyang1: +1 | 15:16 |
| marcusvrn | xyang1: I agree | 15:16 |
| *** cknight has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:16 | |
| bswartz | lpabon: well no | 15:16 |
| marcusvrn | xyang1: +1 | 15:16 |
| *** heyongli- has quit IRC | 15:16 | |
| bswartz | no_share_servers would mean the drive doesn't create share servers because it's using something preexisting | 15:17 |
| *** tonytan4ever has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:17 | |
| bswartz | okay so we may need to brainstorm on this topic | 15:17 |
| chen | bswartz, I considered "no_share_servers", but in the single_svm_mode for generic, a instance need to be configured, so , when admin working under this mode. no_share_server but need one instance | 15:18 |
| bswartz | can I suggest that we resolve this by continuing the ML thread and people can suggest better alternatives? then next week we can pick one? | 15:18 |
| jasonsb_ | mind if i make it more complicated? | 15:18 |
| *** ndipanov has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:18 | |
| bswartz | jasonsb_: go ahead | 15:18 |
| marcusvrn | xyang1: what's the problem with static and dynamic? | 15:18 |
| jasonsb_ | i'm confronting situation where i would like to load balance over several share servers | 15:18 |
| ganso1 | bswartz: +1 | 15:18 |
| jasonsb_ | so i might be single_svm but there are many of them | 15:18 |
| chen | jasonsb_, +1 | 15:18 |
| lpabon | bswartz: +1 | 15:19 |
| jasonsb_ | i suspect i'm not alone | 15:19 |
| marcusvrn | bswartz: +1 | 15:19 |
| bswartz | jasonsb_: okay so that's part of the confusion here | 15:19 |
| *** dboik has quit IRC | 15:19 | |
| xyang1 | "static" sounds the capability is not flexible enough | 15:19 |
| ganso1 | xyang1: +1 | 15:19 |
| xyang1 | Let's also not keep changing names | 15:19 |
| bswartz | we don't want to prevent backends from doing what they need to do -- which is why the definition of a share server is intentionally vague | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | static and dynamic are not good because real criteria - do we create additional resources or not | 15:19 |
| *** Longgeek has quit IRC | 15:19 | |
| jasonsb_ | so i think its hard to pigeon hole this at this time | 15:19 |
| *** shwetaap has quit IRC | 15:20 | |
| rushil | svm seems fine to me | 15:20 |
| bswartz | in the case of netapp, a "share server" actually has multiple IP addresses and lives on multiple physical nodes | 15:20 |
| xyang1 | we used single tenant and multi tenant before | 15:20 |
| bswartz | and our driver can create them and destroy them as needed | 15:20 |
| jasonsb_ | are there multiple IP's that can host a given share? | 15:20 |
| *** xuhanp has quit IRC | 15:20 | |
| *** obondarev has quit IRC | 15:20 | |
| vponomaryov | jasonsb_: Manila is able to provide only one export location, right now | 15:21 |
| vponomaryov | but server can have more than 1 net interface | 15:21 |
| jasonsb_ | vponomaryov: yes i discovered that ) | 15:21 |
| bswartz | the only important aspect of a share_server is that it's something created by manila, so manila expects to own its lifecycle | 15:21 |
| ganso1 | jasonsb_: my driver actually may fall into that category | 15:21 |
| vponomaryov | common case - service net int and tenatn net int for export | 15:21 |
| *** Longgeek has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:21 | |
| bswartz | if your driver uses something preexisting, then it's not a share server (from manila's perspective) | 15:21 |
| bswartz | that doesn't mean that it can't serve shares | 15:21 |
| *** teran_ has quit IRC | 15:21 | |
| bswartz | this split is what we were trying to capture with the single/multi svm thing | 15:22 |
| toabctl | bswartz: then something like 'share_server_needed' and 'share_server_included' could be possible names? | 15:22 |
| bswartz | it's perfectly fine to have a "single_svm" driver which is backed by a large cluster of servers | 15:22 |
| jasonsb_ | bswartz: that makes sense | 15:22 |
| ganso1 | toabctl: -1 | 15:22 |
| bswartz | the difference that manila cares about is that manila is not responsible for creating/destroying the servers themselves | 15:23 |
| vponomaryov | we can replace mode as string with boolean with name "driver_handles_share_server = True/False" | 15:24 |
| ganso1 | I think changing from "single_svm" to "single_share_server", "multi_svm" to "multi_share_server" is a the simplest change we can make | 15:24 |
| jasonsb_ | manage share or manage share+network assets | 15:24 |
| bswartz | one thing that's clear to me is that regardless of what we do with the name, we need much better documentation on what these modes and share server are all about | 15:24 |
| ganso1 | vponomaryov: +1 | 15:24 |
| xyang1 | vponomaryov: I think that's better | 15:24 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: which modes to true and false map to? | 15:24 |
| vponomaryov | true - multi_svm | 15:25 |
| bswartz | true = single_svm, false = multi_svm? | 15:25 |
| bswartz | oh | 15:25 |
| jasonsb_ | or perhaps just enumerate the assets and who manages? | 15:25 |
| *** tbarron has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:25 | |
| jasonsb_ | (vponomaryov idea) | 15:25 |
| bswartz | so the option means "driver supports share server creation" | 15:25 |
| toabctl | vponomaryov: yes. it's not really a mode. it's just a flag which indicates that there is some more stuff todo during creation/deletion of a share | 15:25 |
| *** esheffield has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:25 | |
| *** thomnico has quit IRC | 15:26 | |
| ganso1 | for now it looks like a great solution | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | toabctl: right - for driver developer - it is implementation of additional interfaces | 15:26 |
| bswartz | toabctl: it's still sort of a mode, because when you set it to true, there are additional expectations from the config | 15:26 |
| bswartz | and the manager will interact with the driver differently if the flag is set to true | 15:26 |
| xyang1 | how about we just keep the current names but with better explanation in the code and doc | 15:27 |
| *** sanjeo has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:27 | |
| vponomaryov | I am open to changes, but I do not insist on it. | 15:28 |
| chen | xyang1, -1 | 15:28 |
| ganso1 | vponomaryov: +1 | 15:28 |
| bswartz | xyang1: that's one option, but I want to give some time to make better proposals | 15:28 |
| *** satish has quit IRC | 15:29 | |
| chen | I still not understand what's the "single" means in single_svm_mode. | 15:29 |
| vponomaryov | if change then to boolean, because we will not have third value | 15:29 |
| bswartz | I'll put an agenda item next week to decide whether to rename the option and if so, what the new names should be | 15:29 |
| jasonsb_ | perhaps the thing to do is to write some stub drivers as documentation | 15:29 |
| bswartz | let's keep this discussion going on the ML | 15:29 |
| jasonsb_ | and see how many patterns develop | 15:29 |
| jasonsb_ | then revisit | 15:29 |
| bswartz | so far I like valeriy's proposal best | 15:29 |
| lpabon | bswartz: thanks, that's a good idea (the agenda) | 15:30 |
| xyang1 | I think vponomaryov's proposal is more straight forward | 15:30 |
| bswartz | everyone okay with pushing the decision to next week and giving everyone time to consider? | 15:30 |
| xyang1 | I just don't like keep changing names | 15:30 |
| csaba | bswartz: and then how do you answer your own argument that it's a mode b/c it impiiles different scheme on part of manager? | 15:30 |
| xyang1 | we just got rid of single tenant and multi tenant | 15:30 |
| *** obondarev has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:30 | |
| rushil | xyang1: +1 | 15:30 |
| bswartz | xyang1: I agree, but this change went in during kilo so we haven't actually released the new option | 15:31 |
| csaba | bswartz: +1 | 15:31 |
| ganso1 | bswartz: +1 | 15:31 |
| bswartz | I want to get this right during kilo because it will be much harder to change it during L | 15:31 |
| lpabon | bswartz: aye! | 15:31 |
| marcusvrn | bswartz: +1 | 15:31 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: if we can settle down in Kilo, that will be great | 15:32 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | lets do it next meeting | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | having poll | 15:32 |
| bswartz | #topic level-of-access-for-shares BP | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "level-of-access-for-shares BP (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:32 | |
| bswartz | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/level-of-access-for-shares | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | Idea of this^ spring out of following use case: | 15:32 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: you're up | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | use case: public share with different access levels for different users of different projects. | 15:33 |
| vponomaryov | Like publisher with 'rw' access and readers with only 'ro' access. | 15:33 |
| *** rraja has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:33 | |
| vponomaryov | This is useful with imlementation of another idea described in BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/level-of-visibility-for-shares where we can make share visible for all. | 15:33 |
| vponomaryov | So, question for maintainers of drivers. Will it be possible to implement it with your drivers? | 15:33 |
| vponomaryov | if such interface appears | 15:33 |
| vponomaryov | planned three possible levels - ro, rw and su | 15:34 |
| bswartz | so the share is still owned by 1 tenant, but they can do access-allow with rw/ro instead of just rw? | 15:34 |
| vponomaryov | right | 15:34 |
| bswartz | okay ro/rw/su | 15:34 |
| bswartz | those 3 levels only make sense for NFS btw | 15:34 |
| bswartz | for CIFS the allowed "levels" might be different | 15:35 |
| vponomaryov | lets leave to abstraction level | 15:35 |
| *** thomnico has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:35 | |
| vponomaryov | the idea of more than one level | 15:35 |
| jasonsb_ | manila access-list would have additional field? | 15:35 |
| ganso1 | It is not clear to me the difference between su and rw | 15:35 |
| bswartz | well if we support it in the manila API, then the implementation must be standard across all backends | 15:35 |
| vponomaryov | ganso1: su have execution right | 15:35 |
| ganso1 | bswartz: +1 | 15:35 |
| ganso1 | vponomaryov: humm ok | 15:36 |
| bswartz | we can't have some backends that support some levels and other backends that support different levels | 15:36 |
| ganso1 | vponomaryov: is this mode supported by both CIFS and NFS? | 15:36 |
| vponomaryov | rwx or rw- or r-- | 15:36 |
| bswartz | the difference between rw and su is that su means "root_squash" is turned off | 15:36 |
| *** jecarey has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:36 | |
| ganso1 | bswartz: thanks, but root_squash is only for NFS, correct me if I am wrong please | 15:37 |
| *** zehicle_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:37 | |
| vponomaryov | ganso1: I did not look deep into CIFS according to that | 15:37 |
| bswartz | correct | 15:37 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: -1 | 15:37 |
| bswartz | su has nothing to do with the x bit | 15:37 |
| xyang1 | vponomaryov: what about r-x? | 15:37 |
| ganso1 | also, I believe changing permissions manually via a script is out of hand, correct? | 15:37 |
| bswartz | su only has to do with root_squash | 15:37 |
| vponomaryov | ganso1: permission for who? all at once or some? | 15:38 |
| ganso1 | vponomaryov: I meant that those modes will apply to the share as a whole, such as the options configurable in NFS export, not the files themselves | 15:39 |
| bswartz | and NFS client can directly chmod files inside the NFS share, and access is controlled inside the NFS protocol | 15:39 |
| bswartz | some NFS servers can squash_root, meaning that clients cannot obtain root access under any circumstances | 15:39 |
| vponomaryov | it is not about files, it is about access for whole share | 15:39 |
| bswartz | some NFS servers can also force read-only access, regardless of the underlying mode bits on the filesystem | 15:40 |
| bswartz | the NFS server has no control of whether the client can execute stuff or not | 15:40 |
| *** pkoniszewski has quit IRC | 15:41 | |
| bswartz | so in order to make progress on this | 15:41 |
| bswartz | we need to find out if all of the existing driver can even support a feature like this | 15:41 |
| bswartz | I'm pretty sure the generic driver can (for NFS) | 15:42 |
| bswartz | and the NetApp driver also could | 15:42 |
| bswartz | we'd need to define some levels for CIFS and find out if everyone can support those levels | 15:42 |
| *** Riddhi has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:42 | |
| bswartz | but there is the separate question of whether these is even demand for this | 15:42 |
| bswartz | s/these/there/ | 15:43 |
| vponomaryov | mentioned use case | 15:43 |
| vponomaryov | that belongs to public deployment | 15:43 |
| bswartz | so there is a theoretical use case, but are any real users asking for this? | 15:43 |
| vponomaryov | I know about 1 case in driver development project | 15:44 |
| vponomaryov | it was impelmented using metadata | 15:44 |
| vponomaryov | liek workaround | 15:44 |
| bswartz | which driver | 15:44 |
| vponomaryov | WFA | 15:44 |
| bswartz | ah | 15:44 |
| bswartz | what the use case for RO or for something else? | 15:44 |
| *** obondarev has quit IRC | 15:45 | |
| ganso1 | I think read only is a must have | 15:45 |
| vponomaryov | when we need to share info, but keep it safe | 15:45 |
| bswartz | s/what/was/ | 15:45 |
| ganso1 | since for a big company, the IT adm may put several files there and it should prevent users from deleting them | 15:45 |
| bswartz | if we only implemented RO and RW, would that be enough? | 15:45 |
| ganso1 | so it should have this option, RO | 15:45 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: +1 | 15:45 |
| *** timcl has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:45 | |
| bswartz | RO and RW both have fairly obvious semantics and I'm sure we can support them for both NFS and CIFS | 15:46 |
| marcusvrn | bswartz: ganso1: +1 | 15:46 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: that's my question too. why not allow setting r, w, x, any combination? | 15:46 |
| rprakash | #info I have been particpating starting last summit and keeping gab on the same | 15:46 |
| bswartz | other "levels" like SU are less obvious and might not be supported universally | 15:46 |
| *** Leonr has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:46 | |
| bswartz | xyang1: that's not how any NFS server I'm aware of works | 15:46 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: we have no interfaces that are supported by all | 15:47 |
| ganso1 | there may be less use cases for SU | 15:47 |
| *** e0ne is now known as e0ne_ | 15:47 | |
| bswartz | xyang1: these would be export-wide settings | 15:47 |
| toabctl | starting with RW and RO sounds good to me. | 15:47 |
| marcusvrn | bswartz: yes, I think our driver (hdi-driver) does not support su | 15:47 |
| ganso1 | I think it is safe to assume that we can start partially, with RO and RW... and add SU if needed | 15:47 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: so, it should not be a problem - supporting by all | 15:47 |
| *** GeraldK has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:47 | |
| bswartz | xyang1: the mode bits for individual files would remain as-is | 15:47 |
| *** banix has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:47 | |
| xyang1 | bswartz:ok, I'll check our backend too | 15:47 |
| *** gholler has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:47 | |
| lpabon | ganso1: i think you are correct | 15:48 |
| jasonsb_ | i like idea of rw and ro but try to make general enough to do su later | 15:48 |
| vponomaryov | so, main question is satisfied. level of access is required | 15:49 |
| bswartz | #agreed implementing read-only and read-write access levels seems like something everyone can do and there are obvious use cases | 15:49 |
| rprakash | #topic Boot Get started on wiki | 15:49 |
| *** rcleere is now known as rcleere_away | 15:49 | |
| *** jprovazn has quit IRC | 15:49 | |
| bswartz | also read-only and read-write makes sense for both NFS and CIFS and (hopefully) other protocols | 15:49 |
| rprakash | #info established in December frank says | 15:49 |
| *** rcleere_away is now known as rcleere | 15:50 | |
| bswartz | rprakash: can we help you? | 15:50 |
| *** jprovazn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:50 | |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:50 | |
| chen | do we have logs for irc chat ? didn't find manila at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/ | 15:50 |
| ganso1 | chen: +1 | 15:50 |
| *** prmtl has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:51 | |
| bswartz | chen: yes | 15:51 |
| *** kebray has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:51 | |
| *** stamak has quit IRC | 15:51 | |
| toabctl | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:51 |
| bswartz | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/ | 15:51 |
| vponomaryov | not meeting | 15:51 |
| bswartz | oh! | 15:51 |
| chen | bswartz, this is only for meeting | 15:51 |
| vponomaryov | room of manila | 15:51 |
| bswartz | IRC logs for the channel | 15:51 |
| chen | bswartz, yep | 15:51 |
| bswartz | no I don't believe that infra logs our channel | 15:51 |
| toabctl | ups. that's the link I wanted to post. thanks bswartz . it's mentioned on the wiki page | 15:51 |
| bswartz | I log the channel, but my logs are not public | 15:52 |
| jasonsb_ | bswartz: interested in discussing export_location in db? | 15:52 |
| *** marun has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:52 | |
| bswartz | jasonsb_: is it a quick topic? | 15:52 |
| bswartz | we've got 7 minutes | 15:53 |
| jasonsb_ | not sure | 15:53 |
| *** zehicle_ has quit IRC | 15:53 | |
| bswartz | go ahead and ask the question | 15:53 |
| jasonsb_ | is there existing patterns for changing the endpoint address depending on some circumstance | 15:53 |
| rprakash | # info is the boxes in Oregon for VPN access at Linuxfoundations or they at Ericsson DCs? | 15:53 |
| jasonsb_ | (load balancing perhaps) | 15:53 |
| *** xarses has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:54 | |
| *** lgreg_ has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:54 | |
| ganso1 | jasonsb_: this sounds like "share migration" | 15:54 |
| jasonsb_ | in my case I have many IP addresses I can use but I see that the IP address is coded into database | 15:54 |
| *** Tatyanka_Leontov has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:54 | |
| vponomaryov | jasonsb_: you can write any address but only one | 15:55 |
| bswartz | yeah... | 15:55 |
| vponomaryov | but idea is good | 15:55 |
| toabctl | jasonsb_: endpoint address of what? the share-server? the manila api service? | 15:55 |
| bswartz | this seems like a limitation | 15:55 |
| *** betsy has quit IRC | 15:55 | |
| rprakash | ##action can we get access to BGS hardware for contributions? | 15:55 |
| *** coolsvap is now known as coolsvap|afk | 15:55 | |
| bswartz | clustered NFS server implementations often have a list of IPs through which the share can be accessed | 15:55 |
| marcusvrn | rprakash: 0.o ??? | 15:55 |
| bswartz | rprakash: please stop spamming! | 15:56 |
| jasonsb_ | I was wondering what other drivers might do where there are many IP's to choose from | 15:56 |
| *** zz_jgrimm is now known as jgrimm | 15:56 | |
| bswartz | jasonsb_: we only return 1 IP address, and then rely on in-band negotiation between the NFS client and NFS server to discover other IP addresses | 15:56 |
| ganso1 | jasonsb_: maybe a workaround for this limitation is a setting up a proxy. But getting rid of this limitation is a good proposal | 15:56 |
| bswartz | that's what PNFS is all about | 15:57 |
| *** e0ne_ has quit IRC | 15:57 | |
| chen | I have the same question as jasonsb_ , is there a way to change glusterFS driver to add more than one "glusterfs_target", and all glusterfs_targets are replications for each other. Then when manila create a share, chose one target to use. This would distribute data traffic to the cluster, higher bandwidth, higher performance | 15:57 |
| *** TobiasE has quit IRC | 15:58 | |
| *** tsekiyama has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:58 | |
| bswartz | a proxy is not the answer | 15:58 |
| *** mkwiek has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:58 | |
| bswartz | I think manila may need to allow multiple mount points to be stored in the DB | 15:58 |
| vponomaryov | need implement list of exports instead of one string as export | 15:58 |
| bswartz | the question is whether those would change over time | 15:58 |
| marcusvrn | chen: it's a good idea to implement, but I don't think it's possible today | 15:58 |
| *** Barker has quit IRC | 15:58 | |
| jasonsb_ | i was thinking that the driver itself could be involved in scheduling context | 15:59 |
| bswartz | because we currently store that export one time and never change it | 15:59 |
| mkwiek | hello | 15:59 |
| jasonsb_ | to determine this | 15:59 |
| *** angdraug has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:59 | |
| *** TobiasE has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:59 | |
| jasonsb_ | so its some interesting variable to the single/multi_svm discussion | 15:59 |
| bswartz | jasonsb_ it's a good idea, but we're out of time | 15:59 |
| bswartz | I'm sure we can revisit this topic | 15:59 |
| jasonsb_ | sounds good | 16:00 |
| bswartz | it's not related to the single/multi_svm discussion though | 16:00 |
| ganso1 | let's discuss this again next meeting or create a ML :) | 16:00 |
| marcusvrn | bswartz: jasonsb_ +1 | 16:00 |
| bswartz | if you think it is then you don't understand the driver modes | 16:00 |
| bswartz | I'll try to explain why in the ML thread | 16:00 |
| bswartz | thanks everyone! | 16:00 |
| vponomaryov | thanks | 16:00 |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 16:00 | |
| chen | thanks! | 16:00 |
| ganso1 | thanks! | 16:00 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| toabctl | thanks | 16:00 |
| marcusvrn | thanks! | 16:00 |
| rushil | thanks | 16:00 |
| *** rushil has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:01 | |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 8 16:00:55 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-01-08-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-01-08-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-01-08-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
| *** csaba has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:01 | |
| *** carl_baldwin has quit IRC | 16:01 | |
| *** rraja has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:01 | |
| *** mkwiek has quit IRC | 16:01 | |
| *** chen has quit IRC | 16:01 | |
| *** vponomaryov has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:01 | |
| *** sanjeo has quit IRC | 16:01 | |
| *** thomnico has quit IRC | 16:01 | |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:02 | |
| *** dane_leblanc_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:02 | |
| *** n0ano has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:02 | |
| *** seeg has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:02 | |
| *** kobis1 has quit IRC | 16:03 | |
| *** prmtl has quit IRC | 16:03 | |
| *** mkwiek has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:03 | |
| *** diemt has quit IRC | 16:04 | |
| *** kebray_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:04 | |
| *** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:04 | |
| *** obondarev has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:04 | |
| *** bobmel has quit IRC | 16:05 | |
| *** kebray has quit IRC | 16:05 | |
| *** dane_leblanc has quit IRC | 16:05 | |
| *** MikeM_ has quit IRC | 16:05 | |
| *** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:05 | |
| mkwiek | is fuel weekly meeting here? | 16:06 |
| *** bobmel has quit IRC | 16:06 | |
| *** bobmel_ has quit IRC | 16:06 | |
| *** Barker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:06 | |
| *** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:07 | |
| *** zehicle_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:08 | |
| *** Riddhi has quit IRC | 16:08 | |
| *** Riddhi has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:08 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:09 | |
| angdraug | it was supposed to be cancelled this week, most of our team is on Christmas break (Russian Christmas was yesterday) | 16:13 |
| *** thomnico has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:15 | |
| *** thomnico has quit IRC | 16:15 | |
| *** nshaikh has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:16 | |
| *** jasonsb_ has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:16 | |
| angdraug | US and PL teams are online today, you're welcome to join us on #fuel or #fuel-dev | 16:16 |
| mkwiek | ok, great | 16:18 |
| *** teran has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:18 | |
| *** prmtl has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:18 | |
| *** prmtl has quit IRC | 16:19 | |
| *** Tatyanka_Leontov has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:20 | |
| *** ChuckC_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:21 | |
| *** ChuckC has quit IRC | 16:22 | |
| *** jprovazn has quit IRC | 16:22 | |
| *** xyang1 has quit IRC | 16:23 | |
| *** chellygel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:23 | |
| *** teran has quit IRC | 16:23 | |
| rprakash | #info Palani will share his experience on fuel installs to dlist for opnnfv | 16:23 |
| *** pnavarro has quit IRC | 16:24 | |
| *** sgotliv_ has quit IRC | 16:26 | |
| *** thomnico has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:26 | |
| *** esheffield has quit IRC | 16:26 | |
| *** chellygel has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:26 | |
| *** ivar-lazzaro has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:27 | |
| *** bobmel_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:27 | |
| *** andreaf has quit IRC | 16:28 | |
| *** ChuckC_ has quit IRC | 16:28 | |
| *** andreaf has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:28 | |
| *** shayneburgess has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:30 | |
| *** bobmel has quit IRC | 16:30 | |
| *** jkraj has quit IRC | 16:30 | |
| *** Riddhi has quit IRC | 16:31 | |
| *** obondarev has quit IRC | 16:31 | |
| *** carl_baldwin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:31 | |
| *** VW_ has quit IRC | 16:31 | |
| *** Riddhi has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:31 | |
| *** armax has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:31 | |
| *** VW_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:33 | |
| *** obondarev has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:34 | |
| *** timcl has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:34 | |
| *** mkwiek has quit IRC | 16:35 | |
| *** obondarev has quit IRC | 16:35 | |
| *** zehicle_ has quit IRC | 16:35 | |
| *** irenab has quit IRC | 16:36 | |
| *** xarses has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:36 | |
| *** dane_leblanc_ has quit IRC | 16:37 | |
| *** daneyon_ has quit IRC | 16:38 | |
| *** Barker has quit IRC | 16:38 | |
| *** gyee has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:39 | |
| *** esheffield has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:39 | |
| *** sgotliv_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:39 | |
| *** dane_leblanc has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:43 | |
| *** d-9 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:47 | |
| *** elmiko has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:47 | |
| *** d-9 has quit IRC | 16:48 | |
| rprakash | #action requirement get started page update in bgs | 16:48 |
| *** dg_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:48 | |
| angdraug | rprakash: the fuel meeting was cancelled for today, can you post your notes on openstack-dev instead? (please use [Fuel] in subject) | 16:50 |
| *** jecarey has quit IRC | 16:51 | |
| *** tmcpeak1 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:52 | |
| *** reed has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:55 | |
| *** shayneburgess has quit IRC | 16:56 | |
| *** shayneburgess has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:56 | |
| *** yapeng has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:57 | |
| *** sicarie has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:57 | |
| *** kebray_ has quit IRC | 16:58 | |
| *** chair6 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:58 | |
| *** ChuckC_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:58 | |
| *** dlambrig_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:59 | |
| *** ChuckC_ has quit IRC | 16:59 | |
| *** TobiasE1 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:59 | |
| *** ChuckC_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:59 | |
| *** singlethink has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:59 | |
| *** hyakuhei has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:00 | |
| *** johnsom has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:00 | |
| *** bknudson has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:00 | |
| *** jecarey has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:00 | |
| *** shohel02 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:00 | |
| *** HeOS has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:01 | |
| hyakuhei | #startmeeting OpenStack Security Group | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 8 17:01:17 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack Security Group)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak1 | yo! | 17:01 |
| *** ChuckC_ has quit IRC | 17:01 | |
| bknudson | hi | 17:01 |
| shohel02 | hi | 17:01 |
| elmiko | o/ | 17:01 |
| chair6 | howdy | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | Hey! | 17:01 |
| sicarie | hello | 17:01 |
| *** TobiasE has quit IRC | 17:01 | |
| singlethink | hi | 17:01 |
| *** yapeng has quit IRC | 17:01 | |
| *** ChuckC_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:01 | |
| dlambrig_ | hello | 17:01 |
| *** tkelsey has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:01 | |
| *** Barker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:01 | |
| hyakuhei | Good turnout today, a few new people too by the looks? | 17:02 |
| dlambrig_ | new here | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak1 | seems to be | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak1 | introductions? | 17:02 |
| *** ChuckC_ is now known as ChuckC | 17:02 | |
| tmcpeak1 | hi dlambrig_ welcome | 17:02 |
| tkelsey | hi all | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | That would be appropriate :) New guys introduce yourselves? | 17:02 |
| dlambrig_ | Hi All - Im Dan from Red Hat, I am interested in intrusion detection in openstack | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak1 | awesome | 17:03 |
| * singlethink is Matthew Van Gundy <mvangund AT cisco.com>... I'm a Tech Lead in Cisco's Advanced Security Initiatives Group | 17:03 | |
| hyakuhei | Hey Dan, thanks for swinging by, you’ll find plenty of people here interested in that too | 17:03 |
| dlambrig_ | cool | 17:03 |
| *** ChuckC has quit IRC | 17:03 | |
| *** xyang1 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:03 | |
| hyakuhei | Advanced security initiatives! We definitely need some of them, welcome singlethink | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak1 | singlethink: what kind of stuff are you guys looking at? | 17:03 |
| *** sarnold007 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:03 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 17:03 | |
| *** chuckC_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:04 | |
| *** bdpayne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:04 | |
| singlethink | We are where the buck stops for making sure that our products have as few security issues as possible... | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak1 | awesome! | 17:04 |
| chair6 | existing members should reintroduce themselves too.. :) | 17:04 |
| bknudson | we can barely get basic security initiatives. | 17:04 |
| singlethink | I've just been granted approval to participate so we're probably going to start with hardening recommendations and the like | 17:04 |
| singlethink | and move on from there | 17:04 |
| *** nkinder has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:04 | |
| tmcpeak1 | sounds good | 17:04 |
| shohel02 | chair6... is it new years resolution :P | 17:04 |
| *** ukbelch has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:04 | |
| * bdpayne arrives fashionably late | 17:04 | |
| nkinder | hi all | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | superb, very similar to what we’ve been doing (the HP’ers here) | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | Hey bdpayne, nkinder | 17:04 |
| ukbelch | Greetings | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | ukbelch: Hey, have you introduced yourself to the people here ? | 17:05 |
| ukbelch | I don't believe I have. I'm new to the HP Cloud security team, and have lurked the last few meetings to get a feel for the place. | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak1 | for new people, we typically are hanging out in #openstack-security too | 17:05 |
| *** andymaier has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:05 | |
| ukbelch | cool, thanks. | 17:06 |
| dlambrig_ | great | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | Cool so lets work out an agenda then! | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | # OSSG Meetup | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak1 | meetup, Bandit | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | #Â Bandit | 17:06 |
| ukbelch | Anyway, my name is Dave Belcher, and I'm a hacker. It has been 16 hours since my last hack. | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak1 | haha | 17:06 |
| elmiko | lol nice | 17:06 |
| *** kebray has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:06 | |
| hyakuhei | #Â Anchor | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | #Â Security initiatives in General | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | Anything else? | 17:06 |
| elmiko | i've got an update on the sahara sec. doc | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak1 | Notes? | 17:07 |
| *** esker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:07 | |
| hyakuhei | elmiko: Great | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | #Â Sahara security | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: Is there much to say about OSSNs ? | 17:07 |
| *** gmurphy has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:07 | |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: How about docs? | 17:07 |
| bdpayne | docs, sure | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | # OpenStack Security Guide / Documentation | 17:08 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: not a lot about OSSNs right now really | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | Ok that’s cool, lets get rolling then | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | #topic OSSG Meetup | 17:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OSSG Meetup (Meeting topic: OpenStack Security Group)" | 17:08 | |
| hyakuhei | Who doesn’t know about this already? | 17:08 |
| *** rmoe has quit IRC | 17:08 | |
| bdpayne | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ossg-kilo-meetup | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak1 | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ossg-kilo-meetup | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak1 | lol beat me to it | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | Ok so great, did you all get my email over the holidays? | 17:10 |
| bdpayne | nope | 17:10 |
| bknudson | which option was chosen? | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | We’re now confirmed for the first date, at San Francisco Geekdom - sorry nkinder I know this clashed for you | 17:10 |
| dg_ | yeh, but tell us anyway | 17:10 |
| singlethink | bdpayne: no | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | I can’t find the email in archive, here’s a pastebin http://pastebin.com/W7qZYsMu | 17:10 |
| *** shayneburgess has quit IRC | 17:11 | |
| hyakuhei | Basically we are going to run in parallel with Barbican. Hopefully we can work closely with them on some of the joint projects we have interest in. | 17:11 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: no, that's fine. I'm flying back from Europe on the 10th, but can attend otherwise. | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | So you’ll be available for the whole thing? That’s great news! :D | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak1 checked out the location and said it’s good | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | I’m going to arrange breakfast and lunch catering somehow | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak1 | yeah, seems perfect for us | 17:12 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: ah, actually I can't do the 19th that week, but will be there for the rest of it | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak1 | hyakuhei: I know some good spots around there to get food | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: No problem, I’m glad you can make it at all | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | Great! | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | #action tmcpeak1 to work out logistics, budgets and menus for mid-cycle | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | :P | 17:13 |
| *** ganso1 has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:13 | |
| bdpayne | FYI, here's the email #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-security/2014-December/003072.html | 17:13 |
| ukbelch | I'm hoping for approval, so I can meet y'all too | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak1 | buy all the things! | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | Thanks bdpayne my googles are broken | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | right so, plan is we’ll run from the Tuesday through to the Friday, so people can travel on the Monday and don’t loose two weekends to this | 17:14 |
| * hyakuhei values weekends! | 17:14 | |
| elmiko | +1 | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | There’s plenty of hotels in the locality, if you want to suggest one you like on the etherpad then feel free, and when you’ve booked maybe say where on the etherpad too | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | Is everyone happy just confirming via the etherpad or would you prefer an eventbrite signup? | 17:15 |
| *** EmilienM is now known as EmilienM|afk | 17:15 | |
| bdpayne | etherpad seems fine | 17:15 |
| nkinder | +1 | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | That’s my preference too. | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | So please add ideas and proposals to the etherpad | 17:16 |
| bdpayne | do we have any plans to setup a hotel block? | 17:16 |
| *** thomasem has quit IRC | 17:16 | |
| hyakuhei | singlethink: you should take a look and see the direction we’re taking thigngs :) | 17:16 |
| bdpayne | or do we not have enough people for that? | 17:16 |
| singlethink | yes | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak1 | I guess the first thing to do would be get an accurate head count | 17:17 |
| singlethink | I probably won't be able to make the meetup though | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: I wasn’t planning to, many of us have corporate booking tools etc that make doing anything _clever_ particularly painful | 17:17 |
| bdpayne | heh | 17:17 |
| *** nshaikh has quit IRC | 17:18 | |
| tmcpeak1 | please add your name and if you are coming (yes, no, maybe) to etherpad | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:18 |
| *** safchain has quit IRC | 17:18 | |
| tmcpeak1 | cool | 17:18 |
| *** jmontemayor has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:18 | |
| *** GeraldK has quit IRC | 17:19 | |
| *** betsy has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:19 | |
| tmcpeak1 | so maybe we can revisit next week when people have had a chance and see if it looks like hotel block is feasible | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | Sure | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak1 | cool | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | Any more thoughts on the mid-cycle/meetup ? | 17:19 |
| *** teran has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:20 | |
| tmcpeak1 | I'll synch up offline with HP folks on the f00z | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak1 | f00dz | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | Thanks tmcpeak1 lets try to get Angela to book all that :P | 17:20 |
| *** chellygel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:20 | |
| hyakuhei | Actually | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak1 | ahh cool, yeah that makes sens | 17:20 |
| dg_ | +1 | 17:20 |
| *** chellygel has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:20 | |
| hyakuhei | Is anyone itching to pay for all this other than HP ? | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | In the spirit of openness etc | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | Ok cool | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Bandit | 17:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bandit (Meeting topic: OpenStack Security Group)" | 17:21 | |
| tmcpeak1 | ok so let's revive getting Bandit into projects | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak1, chair6, tkelsey etc. | 17:21 |
| *** angdraug has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:21 | |
| tmcpeak1 | tkelsey mentioned global requirements | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak1 | I checked into that | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak1 | we aren't using anything in Bandit that isn't already in global requirements | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak1 | https://github.com/openstack/requirements | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak1 | #link https://github.com/openstack/requirements | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak1 | :\ | 17:22 |
| sicarie | tmcpeak1 - maybe a refresh of what bandit is (for the new folk)? | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak1 | I have no IRC-foo | 17:22 |
| bknudson | if you want to aim for keystone first might be easier since I can +2 | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak1 | sure | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak1 | bknudson: that would be awesome! | 17:23 |
| *** yamahata has quit IRC | 17:23 | |
| bknudson | also, might be interesting to put this on the cross-project meeting topic | 17:23 |
| nkinder | bknudson: yeah, absolutely | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak1 | I was kind of hoping you'd say that actually bknudson | 17:23 |
| bknudson | they might ask for a spec. | 17:23 |
| dg_ | tmcpeak1 interested in this for Anchor | 17:23 |
| tkelsey | so I can put up a patch that adds bandit itself into global reqs | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | bknudson: Great, I know Mr Young was interested in this too, though it was some time ago when we spoke about it | 17:23 |
| bknudson | mr young has many interests | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | lol so I’m told. | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak1 | tkelsey: in order to do that we need to be running a job | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak1 | https://github.com/openstack/requirements#enforcement-in-projects | 17:24 |
| *** rmoe has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:24 | |
| tkelsey | humm, ok | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak1: Give a quick overview of Bandit for the new folks please. | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak1 | so there is one step we need to do | 17:24 |
| chair6 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/Projects/Bandit <- for the new folks | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | thanks chair6 | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak1 | ok cool | 17:24 |
| *** teran has quit IRC | 17:24 | |
| tmcpeak1 | so Bandit is something that we started with last OpenStack Security meetup | 17:24 |
| * singlethink has taken a quick look... so I'm vaguely familiar with bandit | 17:24 | |
| chair6 | "Bandit provides a framework for performing security analysis of Python source code, utilizing the ast module from the Python standard library." | 17:24 |
| *** andymaier has quit IRC | 17:24 | |
| tmcpeak1 | the idea is to automatically identify possible security issues in code using static code analysis (Python ASTs) | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak1 | it scans through AST representations of Python source and when it encounters a AST node | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak1 | like a function call or an import statement it calls plugins which self-declare their interest in that type of node | 17:25 |
| singlethink | Operating at the syntax level (no type or data flow propagation), correct? | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | nope | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak1 | so, for example, when somebody imports md5 we can warn that md5 isn't the most secure hash library to use | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | It’s a bit smarter than basic source code analysis | 17:26 |
| *** nkrinner has quit IRC | 17:26 | |
| tmcpeak1 | we have a few plugins already and a nice framework that makes it easy to write new checks | 17:27 |
| singlethink | I was impressed by their brevity | 17:27 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah they’re tidy. | 17:27 |
| hyakuhei | Cool - any questions re: Bandit? Thanks for the overview tmcpeak1 | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak1 | singelthink: so we settled on the AST approach because we can do some smarter things, and we have some data flow propogation ideas, but we aren't there yet | 17:28 |
| elmiko | is bandit in a state where we could start using it in our project? | 17:28 |
| singlethink | Is it "feature complete" at this point? And now you're looking into writing tests and integrating with projects? | 17:28 |
| singlethink | Or are there outstanding major features on the TODO list? | 17:28 |
| nkinder | It should be usable now | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak1 | no major features, I'd say it's pretty steady state | 17:28 |
| bdpayne | it is certainly usable | 17:28 |
| nkinder | it's just limited in what it checks for | 17:28 |
| ukbelch | is any security tool ever "feature complete"?:) | 17:28 |
| bdpayne | but probably not "feature complete" | 17:28 |
| bdpayne | exactly | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak1 | we have new 2.0 features we'd like to add, but should be very usable now | 17:28 |
| elmiko | cool, i'll bring this up with the sahara folks. thanks | 17:28 |
| *** SridharRamaswamy has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:28 | |
| singlethink | I guess I meant, stable and ready for use by the masses | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | Progress! | 17:29 |
| bdpayne | as an aside, there's some contributions coming from my team to Bandit shortly | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak1 | initially we'd shoot for a non-blocking gate test just to see how noisy it is | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak1 | bdpayne: yeah saw that - awesome-sauce! | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak1 | we <3 contributions | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: Yes I saw Lucas was getting involved :) | 17:29 |
| bdpayne | :-) | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | ok, lets talk about Anchor for a moment | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Anchor | 17:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Anchor (Meeting topic: OpenStack Security Group)" | 17:30 | |
| hyakuhei | tkelsey: can you dig out a link to the wiki please? | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | So Anchor is what we’ve named Ephemeral PKI | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | which is now Apache2 and in Stackforge | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | We’ve been doing various bits recently, mainly tkelsey’s hard work, contributing changes to pycryptography so we can use that instead of M2Crypto | 17:31 |
| *** daneyon has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:31 | |
| hyakuhei | Because M2Crypto isn’t exactly well maintained | 17:31 |
| bdpayne | truth | 17:31 |
| tkelsey | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Anchor | 17:32 |
| tkelsey | ^wiki | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak1 | me too crypto? sounds… perfectly maintained ;) | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | That work has just landed in Anchor and now we’re looking to basically feature-freeze while we build up a testing framework for the core functionality | 17:32 |
| *** shwetaap has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:32 | |
| tkelsey | yup, lots of focus on testing next | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf_YOzW7I3s Our talk on ephemeral PKI | 17:32 |
| tkelsey | tests tests and more tests | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | Also, at the moment the only contributors are HP and while that’s fine, I’m sure others might like to contribute | 17:33 |
| *** kobis has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:33 | |
| hyakuhei | We also want to integrate with Barbican sooner rather than later. | 17:33 |
| bknudson | so in keystone / auth_token middleware we have PKI tokens... can we use this to generate and distribute the certs? | 17:33 |
| hyakuhei | Anything to add dg_ tkelsey ? | 17:33 |
| hyakuhei | bknudson: I can’t see why not | 17:33 |
| elmiko | i had asked about contributions last meeting, has there been any progress on a todo list or roadmap for Anchor? | 17:33 |
| tkelsey | nothing other than to encourage people to get involved ;) | 17:33 |
| dg_ | thats a pretty good summary, hoping to get some tests in early next week | 17:33 |
| *** tonytan4ever has quit IRC | 17:34 | |
| *** kebray has quit IRC | 17:34 | |
| tkelsey | elmiko: well our first step was to move away from m2crypto | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | elmiko: It’s got a launchpad page, if you see things missing you want adding but don’t have time to write, drop a feature there | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | yeah that was a big lump of work | 17:34 |
| tkelsey | now we are testing | 17:34 |
| *** tonytan4ever has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:34 | |
| elmiko | hyakuhei: i was thinking more in terms of helping with some of test framework and whatnot. i'd be happy to help but i'm not sure i have features ready to propose. | 17:35 |
| tkelsey | so any tests or code scrutiny would be most valuable | 17:35 |
| *** weiting has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:35 | |
| hyakuhei | We’re quite process-light compared to more established OpenStack projects at the moment | 17:35 |
| bknudson | actually it looks like anchor can essentially be the token / auth mechanism itself. | 17:35 |
| bknudson | might have performance problems. | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | elmiko: Funny you mention that :) | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | bknudson: Possibly but it scales _really_ nicely | 17:35 |
| *** derekh has quit IRC | 17:35 | |
| hyakuhei | As well as any API/Rest-thingy scales I guess but there’s no back end RPC or shared states to worry about | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | #action dg_ tkelsey hyakuhei to build a basic roadmap for Anchor | 17:36 |
| bknudson | gyee has been pushing for client cert auth for services for some time ... maybe you've been working with him. | 17:36 |
| elmiko | is openstack-security the best place to talk about Anchor tasks and whatnot? | 17:36 |
| tkelsey | +1 | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | We need some signposts to help guide people who want to get involved. | 17:36 |
| *** matrohon has quit IRC | 17:36 | |
| elmiko | +1 | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | bknudson: Nope though I’ve wanted server identities for a long time | 17:37 |
| singlethink | +1 on client-cert auth... | 17:37 |
| tkelsey | yeah, I should have done that already tbh, but been tied up with the m2 related work | 17:37 |
| bdpayne | is there an architecture overview doc for anchor? | 17:37 |
| bdpayne | or should I just go read the code and whiteboard it? | 17:37 |
| dg_ | hyakuhei +1 | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | Anchor even supports Keystone auth for requestors as we see that as being where this will go | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: more the latter at the moment | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | It’s very simple (long may it stay that way!) | 17:37 |
| *** obondarev has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:37 | |
| bdpayne | yeah, your comment on lack of state raised some questions in my head | 17:38 |
| bdpayne | I'll go research it a bit | 17:38 |
| *** obondarev has quit IRC | 17:38 | |
| dg_ | hyakuhei I'll look at publishing our internal docs | 17:38 |
| tkelsey | bdpayne: awesome :) more eyes and all that | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | dg_: Yeah that should be fine | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: You were at my talk :P | 17:38 |
| *** tonytan4ever has quit IRC | 17:38 | |
| bdpayne | yes, but it didn't answer my questions | 17:39 |
| *** eghobo has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:39 | |
| bdpayne | :P | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | Great, the more questions the better : | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | Ok, anything else re: Anchor? | 17:39 |
| gyee | SSL cert auth spec review is here if you guys want to review. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105913/ | 17:39 |
| *** dboik_ has quit IRC | 17:40 | |
| bknudson | gyee have you heard of anchor? | 17:40 |
| gyee | bknudson, no | 17:40 |
| nkinder | gyee: I'll take a look | 17:41 |
| *** jwcroppe has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:41 | |
| singlethink | hyakuhei: Making sure I understand what you said... so basically, Keystone would be the most fundamental auth mechanism... and you could use keystone auth tokens to get certs from Anchor? | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | So it’s the project formally known as ephemeral PKI which you probably didn’t know about either :P | 17:41 |
| tkelsey | gyee: will look as well, thanks | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | singlethink: Yes it can work that way today but that’s not the only AuthN scheme | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | In fact we don’t even think it will get used much | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | re client certs, I’ll take a look | 17:41 |
| singlethink | I was just trying to figure out if it was that, or the other way around | 17:41 |
| nkinder | I expect that gyee wants to use existing PKI environments where client-certs are already available | 17:42 |
| gyee | nkinder, right, cert management is out of the scope of that spec | 17:42 |
| *** shayneburgess has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:42 | |
| hyakuhei | Yeah I expect so, Anchor can cater for that too, in fact its probably a good thing :) | 17:42 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: I would think Barbican is the recommended way to get certs via keystone auth (possibly with anchor behind it) | 17:42 |
| hyakuhei | gyee: Make sure your openssl is up to date as client cert auth was a bit broken: http://threatpost.com/openssl-fixes-eight-security-vulnerabilities/110279 | 17:42 |
| gyee | it basically take whatever that is passed from mod_ssl | 17:42 |
| *** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:42 | |
| *** kobis has quit IRC | 17:43 | |
| gyee | hyakuhei, yeah, it have a dependency on apache2 | 17:43 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: Yeah, there’s lots of options. We’ll probably end up with an under-cloud Anchor to protect services like Rabbit, MySQL etc and Overcloud Anchor behind Barbican | 17:43 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: yeah, makes sense | 17:43 |
| *** jcoufal has quit IRC | 17:44 | |
| hyakuhei | ok, we’ve only got 15 minutes left | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Security initiatives in General | 17:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Security initiatives in General (Meeting topic: OpenStack Security Group)" | 17:44 | |
| *** jwcroppe has quit IRC | 17:45 | |
| hyakuhei | So we’ve got OSSNs, Security Guide, Bandit, Anchor and Threat Analysis running at the moment, all with various degrees of maturity and velocity | 17:45 |
| bdpayne | did anyone have specific questions on security doc and/or the security guide? | 17:45 |
| elmiko | i do, project or tenant, which to use? | 17:45 |
| hyakuhei | Does anyone have designs on the next big thing we should consider persuing | 17:45 |
| bknudson | project | 17:45 |
| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:45 |
| elmiko | that's what i thought, just wanted something more concrete =) | 17:46 |
| ukbelch | keystone? | 17:46 |
| hyakuhei | Basically the opposite of whatever you see me write, I always seem to get it wrong | 17:46 |
| nkinder | yep, project | 17:46 |
| *** bobmel_ has quit IRC | 17:46 | |
| hyakuhei | #topic Sahara security | 17:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sahara security (Meeting topic: OpenStack Security Group)" | 17:47 | |
| elmiko | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-security-guide-notes | 17:47 |
| elmiko | i've added more content there | 17:47 |
| elmiko | and i'm still soliciting opinions/advice/criticisms | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | So you’re looking for a review? | 17:47 |
| *** mwagner_lap has quit IRC | 17:48 | |
| elmiko | i'm looking for more opinions about how we might proceed and if the content i'm creating is appropriate | 17:48 |
| *** shwetaap has quit IRC | 17:48 | |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: interested on your thoughts on this? | 17:48 |
| elmiko | i'm hoping to have a review up to the security-doc sometime next week | 17:48 |
| bdpayne | I can take a look | 17:48 |
| hyakuhei | elmiko: Whats the intended end-product? | 17:48 |
| elmiko | thanks | 17:48 |
| *** rushiagr_away is now known as rushiagr | 17:48 | |
| *** sgotliv_ has quit IRC | 17:49 | |
| *** jorgem has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:49 | |
| elmiko | hyakuhei: a new chapter 14 for the sec guide, on the data processing service | 17:49 |
| hyakuhei | then you and bdpayne should definitely sync | 17:49 |
| bdpayne | ah yeah, so I'll review this in more detail later today | 17:49 |
| bdpayne | elmiko feel free to pester me on openstack-security too | 17:49 |
| elmiko | bdpayne: thanks | 17:49 |
| hyakuhei | Thanks both | 17:49 |
| hyakuhei | elmiko: anything else ? | 17:49 |
| elmiko | nope, just wanted to update =) | 17:49 |
| hyakuhei | Great stuff, looking forward to seeing this progress | 17:50 |
| *** luhuichun has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:50 | |
| hyakuhei | #topic Security Guide | 17:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Security Guide (Meeting topic: OpenStack Security Group)" | 17:50 | |
| *** luhuichun has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:50 | |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: What’s the latest? | 17:50 |
| bdpayne | oh hi | 17:50 |
| *** jorgem has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:50 | |
| bdpayne | so the latest is that I'd love a person or two to step up and co-lead | 17:50 |
| *** huichun has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:50 | |
| *** crobertsrh has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:50 | |
| *** huichun has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:50 | |
| bdpayne | I haven't been meeting my goals with the guide in a timely fashion | 17:51 |
| bdpayne | so more help could be good | 17:51 |
| bdpayne | if anyone's interested, please ping me | 17:51 |
| bdpayne | there's some great plans for moving this ahead | 17:51 |
| bdpayne | we just need to clean up the book a bit | 17:51 |
| bdpayne | editorial stuff | 17:51 |
| *** luhuichun has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:51 | |
| bdpayne | having said that, contributions are continuing to roll in, which is nice | 17:52 |
| elmiko | bdpayne: i'll ping you later, you've got me curious | 17:52 |
| bdpayne | cool, thanks | 17:52 |
| hyakuhei | Maybe there’ll be more takers after the mid-cycle, that’s a great way to introduce the docs project to people | 17:52 |
| *** luhuichun has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:52 | |
| bdpayne | yeah | 17:52 |
| hyakuhei | ok cool, thanks bdpayne :) | 17:52 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Any other business | 17:52 |
| bdpayne | but that's all that I have for now... so people can ponder that | 17:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Any other business (Meeting topic: OpenStack Security Group)" | 17:52 | |
| hyakuhei | General discussion, anything you think is interesting | 17:53 |
| shohel02 | Regarding Threat analysis... | 17:53 |
| shohel02 | got couple of reviews from bknudson | 17:53 |
| hyakuhei | Big changes since my last review? | 17:54 |
| shohel02 | i think in the security group, we should make a decision how should we progress | 17:54 |
| shohel02 | not much | 17:54 |
| shohel02 | some small stuff.. | 17:54 |
| bknudson | I think it was in good shape | 17:54 |
| bknudson | better than what we had before. | 17:54 |
| shohel02 | thanks bknudson | 17:54 |
| *** huichunlu has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:54 | |
| bdpayne | shohel02 what are the paths you see? | 17:55 |
| *** wznoinsk has quit IRC | 17:55 | |
| *** jodah has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:55 | |
| shohel02 | this is setting the framework analysing other projects | 17:55 |
| shohel02 | definately we need more involvement to get it forward | 17:55 |
| hyakuhei | Its hard | 17:56 |
| shohel02 | yah | 17:56 |
| *** huichunlu has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:56 | |
| hyakuhei | I’m trying to get HP to share architectural drawings where we don’t have lots of internal stuff on them but that’s not so easy | 17:56 |
| *** huichun has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:57 | |
| shohel02 | that would be helpful | 17:57 |
| *** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:57 | |
| *** TobiasE1 has quit IRC | 17:57 | |
| hyakuhei | I’m working on it :) | 17:58 |
| hyakuhei | Last two minutes guys, anything to add? | 17:58 |
| hyakuhei | cool, lets call it! | 17:58 |
| hyakuhei | Thanks all! | 17:58 |
| nkinder | thanks! | 17:58 |
| hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:58 | |
| *** rlpple has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 8 17:58:50 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-01-08-17.01.html | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-01-08-17.01.txt | 17:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-01-08-17.01.log.html | 17:58 |
| *** sicarie has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:59 | |
| *** bknudson has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:59 | |
| *** gmurphy has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:59 | |
| shohel02 | thanks | 17:59 |
| tmcpeak1 | later! | 17:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sahara folks, ping | 17:59 |
| *** tmcpeak1 has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:59 | |
| elmiko | o/ | 17:59 |
| crobertsrh | hello/ | 17:59 |
| *** akerr_ has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:59 | |
| *** shohel02 has quit IRC | 17:59 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting sahara | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 8 18:00:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:00 |
| *** nkinder has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:00 | |
| huichun | hello | 18:00 |
| *** singlethink has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:00 | |
| *** rlpple has quit IRC | 18:00 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'm on vacation / holidays, so partially available ;) | 18:00 |
| *** dlambrig_ has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:00 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | #help | 18:00 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #chair elmiko | 18:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SergeyLukjanov elmiko | 18:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 18:01 |
| elmiko | we appreciate your dedication =) | 18:01 |
| *** sbalukoff has quit IRC | 18:01 | |
| *** esheffield has quit IRC | 18:01 | |
| *** sarnold007 has quit IRC | 18:01 | |
| elmiko | #topic horizon status | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "horizon status (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:02 | |
| crobertsrh | Still some reviews lingering in horizon (usual status). | 18:02 |
| crobertsrh | I've put some thought and some trial code into a "wizard". | 18:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, yeah | 18:02 |
| *** tosky has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:02 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, and how is it going? | 18:02 |
| tosky | hi | 18:02 |
| crobertsrh | I will be meeting with a couple UX people tomorrow. Hopefully, they will be able to give some guidance. | 18:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, do we need completely custom code or could reuse some horizon stuff? | 18:03 |
| *** zz_avozza is now known as avozza | 18:03 | |
| *** fzdarsky has quit IRC | 18:03 | |
| crobertsrh | Not great so far really. I've decided to scrap my original approach.....on to new ideas now :) | 18:03 |
| *** mattgriffin has quit IRC | 18:03 | |
| crobertsrh | My new idea will hopefully allow us to reuse a lot of what we have. | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | okay | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anything else re horizon? | 18:03 |
| *** kchen has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:03 | |
| crobertsrh | At least, if we do refactor some of what we have, it will be used both in and outside of wizard | 18:03 |
| crobertsrh | Of course, UX people may have other better ideas. | 18:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, ack, it'll be great | 18:04 |
| *** jwcroppe has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:04 | |
| crobertsrh | Nothing else I can think of. | 18:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 18:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News / updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:04 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | folks, please | 18:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | (ru holidays are Jan 1-11) | 18:04 |
| crobertsrh | Specs for "default templates" and "edit templates" have been merged. | 18:04 |
| elmiko | i've been continuing work on the security doc, and researching some options in terms of using barbican. also working on a few bugs and many reviews. | 18:05 |
| *** tmckay has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:05 | |
| elmiko | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-security-guide-notes | 18:05 |
| weiting | Cloudera confirm they can hold the cdh image on their website with a EULA. | 18:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, I hope to propose ACL spec next week | 18:05 |
| elmiko | i could use any opinions/adivce/suggestions/criticisms on that etherpad please | 18:05 |
| crobertsrh | Great! | 18:05 |
| *** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:05 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | weiting, so, it means that automation will not work? | 18:05 |
| crobertsrh | ack elmiko: I've been meaning to look at that. | 18:05 |
| *** rushiagr is now known as rushiagr_away | 18:06 | |
| huichun | current focus on adding more integration test case on CDH plugin https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/add-more-cdh-integration-tests | 18:06 |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:06 | |
| weiting | What do you mean "automation"? | 18:06 |
| *** chair6 has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:07 | |
| *** egafford has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:07 | |
| elmiko | weiting: i think he means automating the download of the image would not be possible with the EULA | 18:07 |
| *** gyee has quit IRC | 18:08 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | weiting, wget <image_url> | 18:08 |
| weiting | Oh, yes. There is still a EULA that the end user must accept it. | 18:08 |
| *** mwagner_lap has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:08 | |
| *** Youcef has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:08 | |
| weiting | So it shouldn't support automation. | 18:08 |
| weiting | Any concern about that? | 18:09 |
| elmiko | i think the concern is that sahara-image-elements may run in an automated mode, which would not be possible with the EULA | 18:09 |
| *** pballand has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:10 | |
| elmiko | or that the image may be downloaded automatically | 18:10 |
| *** tonytan4ever has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:10 | |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: is there further concern about the EULA? | 18:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | but at least we'll be able to publish link in docs to it | 18:12 |
| *** rprakash has quit IRC | 18:12 | |
| elmiko | any more news or updates? | 18:13 |
| weiting | Yes, the image from Cloudera website should be used for publish purpose | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | IMO Bug / doc / spec days should be discussed on the next meeting when ru folks will be available | 18:13 |
| *** betsy has quit IRC | 18:14 | |
| *** dboik has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:14 | |
| crobertsrh | +1 | 18:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and I don't see any more active agenda items | 18:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Open discussion | 18:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:14 | |
| *** EmilienM|afk is now known as EmilienM | 18:14 | |
| *** thomnico has quit IRC | 18:14 | |
| *** SridharG has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:14 | |
| *** mattgriffin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:15 | |
| elmiko | #action discuss bug/doc/spec days at Jan. 15 meeting | 18:15 |
| kchen | need we manage the cdh versions? | 18:15 |
| kchen | I registered a bp on this. I think currently cdh version management is confusing. | 18:16 |
| tmckay | hey there, I have an open discussion item | 18:16 |
| elmiko | yes, i think that bp looks good | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | kchen, +1 | 18:16 |
| tmckay | It's been a while since we talked about how to include hadoop-openstack.jar | 18:16 |
| tmckay | (or hadoop-swift.jar, however it's named_ | 18:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | kchen, AFAIK sreshetniak was planning to add some versions managemens to CDH plugin | 18:17 |
| elmiko | tmckay: hadoop-openstack | 18:17 |
| *** garyduan has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:17 | |
| tmckay | originally we had our jar injected into hadoop 1 and hadoop 2 from the mirantis site | 18:17 |
| *** bobmel_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:17 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, job is partially ready, I'll complete it next week (after holidays) | 18:17 |
| *** SridharRamaswamy has quit IRC | 18:17 | |
| *** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck | 18:18 | |
| tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, okay. To summarize: right now it is injected as an element for hadoop 1, but not for hadoop 2 | 18:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, and it'll be published on tarballs.o.o/sahara/hadoop-swift/hadoop-swift-latest.jar | 18:18 |
| *** annashen has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:18 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, hm | 18:18 |
| tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, so will we add it back as an element for hadoop 2? | 18:18 |
| elmiko | i think we should | 18:18 |
| kchen | so it means the version management for cdh is already ongoing? | 18:18 |
| tmckay | dmitryme removed it last April since Hadoop already had a jar included :) | 18:18 |
| *** gduan has quit IRC | 18:19 | |
| *** betsy has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:19 | |
| tmckay | I found this btw because I am working on fixing up DIB for spark to include hadoop-openstack.jar in the image | 18:19 |
| tmckay | for swift support | 18:20 |
| *** amcrn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:20 | |
| *** shwetaap has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:20 | |
| tmckay | another hurdle, fyi, is that we need to change the CDH version or we need to include a jackson jar somehow to fix an incompatibility | 18:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | kchen, I think you should ping sreshetniak about it, I think he has some ideas about it by not started implementing it | 18:20 |
| *** teran has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:20 | |
| *** bobmel has quit IRC | 18:21 | |
| kchen | ok. I will ping him on this topic. | 18:21 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: kchen has a bp up for it though, maybe sreshetniak could comment as well | 18:22 |
| *** shwetaap1 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:22 | |
| alazarev | sorry, I'm late, thought it is in 11am | 18:23 |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:24 | |
| elmiko | alazarev: no problem, any topics? | 18:24 |
| *** teran has quit IRC | 18:25 | |
| *** shwetaap has quit IRC | 18:25 | |
| alazarev | not from my side, I was busy with SSL stuff and configs clean up | 18:25 |
| *** sergef has quit IRC | 18:25 | |
| elmiko | i'd like to just bring up the security guide again | 18:26 |
| alazarev | plan - multi workers for API and signals support | 18:26 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, multi workers? | 18:26 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145601/ | 18:26 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov, if we want signals support - let's do it right ;) | 18:27 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, /me looking | 18:28 |
| elmiko | +1 for doing it right | 18:28 |
| *** daneyon_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:28 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, hm, we're running API in threads | 18:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, it's done by flask / eventlet | 18:29 |
| *** daneyon_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:29 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, and it's not wsgi app | 18:29 |
| *** daneyon has quit IRC | 18:29 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, and your spec is actually talking not about wsgi workers | 18:29 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov, no, I tried, hanging of one API request leads to complete API stop | 18:29 |
| *** carl_baldwin has quit IRC | 18:30 | |
| *** bswartz has quit IRC | 18:30 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, it was running in green threads some time ago | 18:30 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov, green threads is not a production ready solution | 18:31 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov, other projects use green threads for debug only | 18:31 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, the whole openstack is based on greenthreads | 18:32 |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 18:32 | |
| *** tkelsey has quit IRC | 18:32 | |
| *** hyakuhei has quit IRC | 18:33 | |
| *** dboik_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:33 | |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov, we just run wsgi.server without any threads, sleep in any api handler leads to stoping API handling | 18:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, we could spawn a set if API processes like it's done in some openstack projects | 18:34 |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 18:34 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, but the most correct way is to support wsgi | 18:34 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov, I like how it is done in heat | 18:35 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, flask docs re wsgi in apache - http://flask.pocoo.org/docs/0.10/deploying/mod_wsgi/#mod-wsgi-apache | 18:35 |
| *** jehb_ has quit IRC | 18:35 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, link? | 18:35 |
| *** jehb has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:35 | |
| *** dboik has quit IRC | 18:36 | |
| alazarev | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/common/wsgi.py#L248 | 18:36 |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:37 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy is now known as zz_johnthetubagu | 18:38 | |
| *** esheffield has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:38 | |
| *** bdpayne has quit IRC | 18:38 | |
| *** lpabon has quit IRC | 18:39 | |
| elmiko | heat's solution looks interesting | 18:39 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, yeah, it looks nice, but it's not a support for wsgi, it's just an eventlet wsgi server and green threads | 18:39 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, so, as you say it's not production ready :) | 18:39 |
| alazarev | they don't use green threads | 18:39 |
| alazarev | they fork processes | 18:39 |
| alazarev | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/common/wsgi.py#L328 | 18:40 |
| alazarev | green threads for debug only | 18:40 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, oops, bad wording, I mean that it's still evenlet's wsgi | 18:40 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, and I think that it's a bad idea to copy-paste their wsgi module | 18:41 |
| alazarev | all openstack use eventlet wsgi, we have nothing to do with this | 18:41 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov, not all module, just Server class | 18:42 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, some projects supports real wsgi | 18:43 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, keystone at least | 18:43 |
| *** sgotliv has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:43 | |
| *** balajiiyer has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:43 | |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov, I'll take a look | 18:43 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, I think all services are using https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/service.py | 18:44 |
| elmiko | ~15 min left | 18:44 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, and it's maintained now - https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/MAINTAINERS#L173 | 18:44 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, I prefer using https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/service.py as common and maintained code | 18:45 |
| *** vhoward- has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:45 | |
| alazarev | what happened with common.wsgi? They removed it some months ago | 18:45 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/service.py#L309 | 18:45 |
| *** yapeng has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:45 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, it was removed about year ago I think, it was depricated and we're using only json serializer from it AFAIK | 18:46 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov, yeah, look similar, I agree that using common code is better | 18:46 |
| *** dg_ has quit IRC | 18:46 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, more than that, it looks like oslo's impl is much more flexible and it's used at least in nova | 18:46 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, okay, so, sounds we agreed you to try using oslo-incubator/service | 18:48 |
| *** rcleere is now known as rcleere_away | 18:48 | |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov, yeap | 18:48 |
| SergeyLukjanov | folks, anything else? | 18:49 |
| elmiko | yes | 18:49 |
| elmiko | just wanted to bring up sec. guide one more time | 18:49 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, I'll review the spec itself early next week | 18:49 |
| alazarev | more reviews for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133590/, plz ;) | 18:49 |
| elmiko | i could use any extra advice or opinions on our position in terms of how we recommend our users to secure their installations | 18:49 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, added to the reading list | 18:49 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: thanks | 18:49 |
| *** catherineR has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:49 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, only ideas about how insecure it | 18:50 |
| elmiko | lol | 18:50 |
| elmiko | speaking of that | 18:50 |
| elmiko | i want to start investigating if we could use the OSSG Bandit project | 18:50 |
| elmiko | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/Projects/Bandit | 18:50 |
| *** dprince has quit IRC | 18:50 | |
| *** yapeng has quit IRC | 18:50 | |
| elmiko | it's a static code analysis tool to help identify security weaknesses | 18:50 |
| tmckay | elmiko, +! | 18:51 |
| crobertsrh | seems kinda interesting | 18:51 |
| elmiko | ok, that's it from me | 18:52 |
| *** thomasem has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:52 | |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:53 | |
| *** rcleere_away is now known as rcleere | 18:53 | |
| *** bdpayne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:53 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, could you run bandit on sahara code and share results on the next meeting, please? | 18:54 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: if i can get to it, yes =) | 18:54 |
| elmiko | #action elmiko to run bandit against codebase | 18:54 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, thx | 18:56 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ok, 4 mins left | 18:56 |
| crobertsrh | Hopefully, next week, I'll have some sort of proposal for what our wizard/guided mode might look like. I may have a few options depending on what input I get from UX people. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. | 18:57 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, cool! | 18:58 |
| crobertsrh | Or just feel free to shoot down whatever I come up with :) | 18:58 |
| elmiko | lol | 18:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | okay, thanks folks | 18:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 18:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 8 18:58:52 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:58 |
| *** crobertsrh has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:58 | |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-01-08-18.00.html | 18:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-01-08-18.00.txt | 18:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-01-08-18.00.log.html | 18:58 |
| *** amitgandhinz has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:59 | |
| *** elmiko has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:59 | |
| *** jecarey has quit IRC | 18:59 | |
| *** kchen has quit IRC | 19:00 | |
| amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 8 19:00:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 19:00 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic RollCall | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RollCall (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:00 | |
| amitgandhinz | welcome back everyone | 19:00 |
| amitgandhinz | who do we have today? | 19:00 |
| *** mpanetta has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:00 | |
| *** dboik_ has quit IRC | 19:00 | |
| catherineR | o/ | 19:00 |
| *** dboik has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:00 | |
| tonytan4ever | o/ | 19:01 |
| *** obulpathi has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:01 | |
| miqui_ | ..hello ..folks.. | 19:01 |
| obulpathi | o/ | 19:01 |
| *** megan_w_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:01 | |
| amitgandhinz | hi miqui_ | 19:01 |
| megan_w_ | o/ | 19:01 |
| amitgandhinz | #link Agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy | 19:02 |
| mpanetta | o/ | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Last Year This Year on Poppy | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Last Year This Year on Poppy (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:02 | |
| amitgandhinz | #link Last Meeting - http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-12-18-19.00.html | 19:02 |
| *** miqui has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:02 | |
| *** malini has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:03 | |
| *** dboik has quit IRC | 19:03 | |
| *** Barker has quit IRC | 19:03 | |
| amitgandhinz | okay, so action items from last time | 19:03 |
| malini | o/ | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | amitgandhinz to set up a design discussion on the Message Queue Driver in early January | 19:03 |
| *** dboik has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:03 | |
| amitgandhinz | ok lets set this up | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | how does next Thursday sound? | 19:03 |
| obulpathi | good for me! | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | maybe at 1pm EST | 19:04 |
| malini | during usual meeting hrs? | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | nah lets do it an hour before the usual meeting | 19:04 |
| tonytan4ever | I am good. | 19:04 |
| obulpathi | +1 | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui_: ? | 19:04 |
| malini | I will be in India & will try to stay awake (A) | 19:04 |
| miqui | +1 | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | mpanetta: ? | 19:04 |
| mpanetta | Sounds good to me | 19:04 |
| *** jecarey has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:05 | |
| amitgandhinz | ok i will send out a calendar invite | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui_: i dont have your email addr | 19:05 |
| miqui | migmaqer@gmail.com | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | thanks | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | the design discussion will center on what drivers we implement, how workers should work, etc | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | #agreed amitgandhinz will hold a design discussion with the poppy team on the Message Queue Driver implementation on Thursday Jan 15, 2015 at 1pm EST | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | ok next action item was malini to add doc to cdn vendor wiki page on how to add a mimic plugin for their api | 19:07 |
| malini | :-$ | 19:07 |
| malini | can we carry it over? | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | sure | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | #action malini to add doc to cdn vendor wiki page on how to add a mimic plugin for their api | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | lets get this done as I want us to make it really obvious for vendors to build out their drivers now | 19:08 |
| malini | sure | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | alright.... | 19:09 |
| *** kebray has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:09 | |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Review Kilo2 Activities | 19:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Kilo2 Activities (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:09 | |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://launchpad.net/poppy/+milestone/kilo-2 | 19:09 |
| *** shwetaap1 has quit IRC | 19:09 | |
| amitgandhinz | so first of all congrats everyone, there was an immense number of bugs fixed over the holidays | 19:09 |
| obulpathi | yay! | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | =D | 19:10 |
| tonytan4ever | I missed the bug party but still congrats is in order. | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | we still have some but not many so thats awesome | 19:10 |
| *** tmckay has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:10 | |
| amitgandhinz | there is still about 2 weeks left in the kilo 2 cycle | 19:11 |
| malini | we ate bugs for holidays | 19:11 |
| mpanetta | yum... | 19:11 |
| miqui | ..hehehe... | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | so lets target some of these remaining blueprints | 19:11 |
| wbrothers | especially chocoloate covered | 19:11 |
| malini | yumm.. | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | 1. Msq Queue Driver - we will discuss this next week and then get started on it | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: Update on shared SSL support? | 19:12 |
| tonytan4ever | This is pretty much done, it could use some reviews from everybody though. | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | so Good progress or In Review? | 19:13 |
| tonytan4ever | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145365/ | 19:13 |
| tonytan4ever | Should be In Review | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | ok. lets get some reviews on this | 19:13 |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 19:13 | |
| obulpathi | got it | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui_: Update Home Doc | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | malini: Specify provider url in the conf file | 19:15 |
| miqui | hi amitgandhinz, sorry, i have no upda tes..been swamped... | 19:15 |
| *** egafford has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:15 | |
| amitgandhinz | miqui_: thats ok | 19:15 |
| miqui | sorry about htis.. | 19:15 |
| malini | we have this already in place for akamai & fastly.. | 19:15 |
| *** balajiiyer has quit IRC | 19:16 | |
| malini | havent started for the rest | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | its just maxcdn and cloudfront that need updating still | 19:16 |
| malini | yes | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | im going to take your name off this for now | 19:16 |
| malini | thanks! | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: Create Rackspace DNS plugin for mimic | 19:17 |
| *** ivar-lazzaro has quit IRC | 19:17 | |
| *** balajiiyer has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:17 | |
| obulpathi | it still in same state | 19:18 |
| obulpathi | once I fix the caching rules bug, I will finishes this off | 19:18 |
| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:18 |
| amitgandhinz | malini: End To End Tests for Poppy | 19:18 |
| malini | tht is merged | 19:18 |
| malini | I wud like to make some minor updates | 19:18 |
| amitgandhinz | ill mark it as completed | 19:19 |
| malini | around waiting for DNS propagation | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | you can submit bugs for the updates | 19:19 |
| malini | sure | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | ok so the main items for kilo remaining are the queue driver, ssl support, and fixing the api tests at the gate | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | does anyone have any questions regarding the bugs? | 19:21 |
| *** teran has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:21 | |
| malini | nope | 19:21 |
| miqui | nope... | 19:21 |
| tonytan4ever | no. | 19:22 |
| *** sbalukoff has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:22 | |
| amitgandhinz | #topic New Items | 19:22 |
| wbrothers | nope | 19:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New Items (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:22 | |
| amitgandhinz | Nothing new on the agenda | 19:22 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Open Discussion | 19:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:22 | |
| amitgandhinz | Anyone have something they want to discuss? | 19:22 |
| malini | amitgandhinz: can we talk a bit abt the conformance tests? | 19:22 |
| amitgandhinz | ya | 19:23 |
| *** annashen has quit IRC | 19:23 | |
| megan_w_ | o/ | 19:23 |
| amitgandhinz | malini: first, then megan_w_ | 19:23 |
| megan_w_ | if anyone from the edgecast/verizon team is here, i'd love to get feedback on how their plugin is coming along | 19:23 |
| megan_w_ | sounds good | 19:23 |
| * amitgandhinz watches megan_w_sneak her question in haha | 19:24 | |
| malini | amitgandhinz: if we were to write a conformance test for an existing provider, say akamai or fastly - what is the o/p we want to compare against in the conformance test? | 19:24 |
| *** annashen has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:24 | |
| amitgandhinz | so we want to make sure they implement the interface correctly and can handle the different inputs | 19:24 |
| amitgandhinz | so all providers have to meet the abstract interface we defined | 19:24 |
| malini | you mean this one https://github.com/stackforge/poppy/blob/master/poppy/provider/base/services.py ? | 19:25 |
| amitgandhinz | i want the conformance tests to be able to pass a range of different values (postive/neg tests) to those interfaces | 19:25 |
| amitgandhinz | ya | 19:25 |
| amitgandhinz | and the conformance tests should assert the correct responses are returned | 19:25 |
| amitgandhinz | that way as a provider builds their driver, they know that they are meeting the contracts | 19:25 |
| malini | ok..I'll start working on a POC & solicit feedback as I go | 19:26 |
| malini | I am adding a bp for tht now | 19:26 |
| *** teran has quit IRC | 19:26 | |
| amitgandhinz | to answer the question on if the provider driver configures the cdn settings correctly at their end, the api tests and end to ends tests should catch that | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | we will need a way to run the api tests multiple times, once for each provider we have | 19:26 |
| malini | we can just create a big happy flavor with all providers in it :) | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | that way we can see which providers are working and which ones could be broken | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | we should be able to just use different test.conf files right? to test each provider flavor on their own | 19:27 |
| malini | yeap..tht will work too | 19:28 |
| *** atiwari has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:28 | |
| *** mrmartin has quit IRC | 19:28 | |
| amitgandhinz | that way we can setup each conf file with its appropriate provider credentials, and also point it to use mimic if necessary | 19:28 |
| *** atiwari1 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:29 | |
| *** ameade_ is now known as ameade | 19:29 | |
| *** chuckC__ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:29 | |
| malini | sounds good.. | 19:29 |
| malini | megan_w_: your turn | 19:29 |
| megan_w_ | fantastic. is there anyone from the edgecast/verizon team here? | 19:29 |
| megan_w_ | (could be a quick turn) | 19:29 |
| *** chuckC_ has quit IRC | 19:30 | |
| megan_w_ | wait for it... | 19:30 |
| megan_w_ | ... | 19:30 |
| megan_w_ | ok, i'm good. nothing for me :) | 19:30 |
| malini | shud have let megan_w_ go first :) | 19:31 |
| miqui_ | can i ask a question.... | 19:31 |
| * miqui_ raises hand... | 19:31 | |
| megan_w_ | yes please | 19:31 |
| amitgandhinz | go for it miqui_ | 19:32 |
| *** dbhaskaran has quit IRC | 19:32 | |
| miqui_ | for the message queue driver design discussion is there a particular messaing backend to consider? | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | i want to support the following: | 19:32 |
| miqui_ | just asking so as to t"think ahead " somewhat... | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | 1. oslo.message - this gives us rabbitmq, zeromq, and qpid, and maybe kafka support | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | 2. zaqar support | 19:32 |
| *** chuckC_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:33 | |
| amitgandhinz | 3. maybe celery or taskflow | 19:33 |
| amitgandhinz | but 1 and 2 are required | 19:33 |
| *** amcrn has quit IRC | 19:33 | |
| miqui_ | k, thanks... | 19:33 |
| *** jecarey has quit IRC | 19:33 | |
| *** jecarey has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:33 | |
| amitgandhinz | if we build the driver generic enough we should be able to support many queue platforms | 19:33 |
| miqui_ | right + | 19:34 |
| miqui_ | +1 | 19:34 |
| amitgandhinz | but 1 and 2 tie us into the openstack platform nicely | 19:34 |
| *** dbhaskaran has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:34 | |
| *** chuckC__ has quit IRC | 19:34 | |
| *** Longgeek has quit IRC | 19:34 | |
| amitgandhinz | ok any more questions? | 19:34 |
| miqui_ | am good for now... thanks... | 19:35 |
| malini | do we want to start talking a bit more abt queue driver now? | 19:35 |
| malini | since we have 30 minutes left? | 19:35 |
| amitgandhinz | lets do some prep first | 19:35 |
| malini | I don't want any life back :D | 19:35 |
| mpanetta | hah! | 19:35 |
| malini | ok | 19:35 |
| amitgandhinz | i want to gain a better understanding myself of oslo.messaging | 19:36 |
| malini | sure | 19:36 |
| amitgandhinz | i think i know zaqar pretty well (one hopes =p) | 19:36 |
| *** Longgeek has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:36 | |
| amitgandhinz | and i know mpanetta has some concerns around worker processes that need to be heard | 19:36 |
| mpanetta | yeah | 19:36 |
| mpanetta | mainly that they die properly :P | 19:37 |
| amitgandhinz | so lets spend the week building up our notes/concerns, and then we can hit hard at the thur meeting | 19:37 |
| amitgandhinz | we can also talk about it during the week too =) | 19:37 |
| *** dalgaaf has quit IRC | 19:37 | |
| miqui_ | i have some experience with rabbitmq | 19:37 |
| amitgandhinz | cool | 19:37 |
| *** chuckC_ has quit IRC | 19:38 | |
| obulpathi | regarding the worker mechanisms | 19:38 |
| miqui_ | ..but likewise need to ramp up on oslo.messaging... | 19:38 |
| tonytan4ever | Celery use rabbitmq as a backend queue system, and it has a nice GUI interface to manage and monitor all the worker processes. | 19:38 |
| tonytan4ever | I am just saying. | 19:39 |
| obulpathi | if we have threading based workers (like greenlets), poppy will be able to handle much higher load (compared to process based) | 19:39 |
| *** chuckC_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:39 | |
| *** annashen has quit IRC | 19:39 | |
| *** pballand has quit IRC | 19:39 | |
| obulpathi | a significant portion of time, the workers spend in waiting for network io state | 19:39 |
| *** ChuckC has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:39 | |
| obulpathi | this limits the number of messages that can get processed | 19:40 |
| mpanetta | My main concern is that we can mange the processes with something like supervisord or circus. | 19:40 |
| obulpathi | if we use process based workers, we can not have large number of workers (swapping, memory etc ..) | 19:40 |
| miqui_ | worker pool? | 19:40 |
| obulpathi | for every network io, provider call , DNS call, they need to be swapped, which created lot of overhead | 19:41 |
| *** Longgeek has quit IRC | 19:41 | |
| amitgandhinz | it amy be worth looking into how designate is doing their workers (just for comparison) | 19:41 |
| amitgandhinz | s/amy/may | 19:41 |
| obulpathi | good idea | 19:41 |
| *** e0ne is now known as e0ne_ | 19:41 | |
| miqui_ | i like how nodejs model... | 19:42 |
| obulpathi | does any other poppy project use queue/worker mechanism? | 19:42 |
| miqui_ | how it handles multiple load use cases.. | 19:42 |
| miqui_ | not sure if any of you have read some about this javascript v8 engine... | 19:42 |
| mpanetta | It is all event driven isn't it? | 19:42 |
| miqui_ | yes | 19:42 |
| miqui_ | it is very very fast,,,, | 19:42 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui_: unfortunately nodejs isnt openstacky =/ | 19:43 |
| miqui_ | bu i think we have stick to python | 19:43 |
| amitgandhinz | but there are non blocking python libs | 19:43 |
| miqui_ | yup amitgandhinz...you are right... | 19:43 |
| mpanetta | twisted | 19:43 |
| amitgandhinz | like twisted | 19:43 |
| amitgandhinz | =P | 19:43 |
| mpanetta | asyncio | 19:43 |
| mpanetta | etc | 19:43 |
| amitgandhinz | asyncio is py3+ | 19:43 |
| * mpanetta is probably still on an ansync kick... | 19:43 | |
| mpanetta | Twisted is kinda cool, but the docs are kinda lacking. | 19:43 |
| amitgandhinz | nsync was so 90s ! | 19:43 |
| mpanetta | haha | 19:44 |
| mpanetta | s/ansync/async/ :P | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz | im not sure if twisted is acceptable .... | 19:44 |
| miqui | ..hehehe | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz | so lets research this this week also | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz | come up with ideas for thursday | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz | #action investigate how to do worker processes with non blocking io | 19:45 |
| amitgandhinz | #action research oslo.messaging | 19:45 |
| mpanetta | Are there any openstack preferred libs for this? | 19:45 |
| amitgandhinz | idk | 19:45 |
| *** bdpayne has quit IRC | 19:45 | |
| obulpathi | got it | 19:46 |
| *** bdpayne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:46 | |
| amitgandhinz | ok.... | 19:46 |
| amitgandhinz | any thing else ? | 19:47 |
| obulpathi | nothing from me | 19:48 |
| *** banix has quit IRC | 19:48 | |
| *** carl_baldwin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:48 | |
| *** jtomasek has quit IRC | 19:48 | |
| malini | none from me too.. | 19:48 |
| miqui | none from me... | 19:48 |
| tonytan4ever | One thing from me. | 19:48 |
| *** e0ne_ is now known as e0ne | 19:48 | |
| amitgandhinz | go for it tonytan4ever | 19:48 |
| tonytan4ever | A quick FYI, the domain field in Poppy service will have a "shared ssl" field, to support shared ssl domain | 19:49 |
| tonytan4ever | `shared_ssl` - optional: whether to use shared ssl certificate on this domain, right now only support true. Defaults to false. | 19:49 |
| tonytan4ever | This is what I will put on apiary doc. | 19:49 |
| amitgandhinz | right. its also worth noting that if shared_ssl = true, then the domain entered will be overwritten with a generated domain using the shared cert | 19:50 |
| malini | overwritten in the service details? | 19:50 |
| tonytan4ever | Yeah. | 19:50 |
| amitgandhinz | yeah | 19:50 |
| amitgandhinz | because a custom user domain doesnt make sense with a shared domain | 19:51 |
| amitgandhinz | you cant cname your own domain to a shared domain with SSL | 19:51 |
| amitgandhinz | the cert would be rejected in the browser | 19:51 |
| malini | in tht case, does it make sense to still keep domain a required field? | 19:51 |
| *** atiwari1 has quit IRC | 19:51 | |
| *** atiwari has quit IRC | 19:51 | |
| tonytan4ever | You are right, it does not. | 19:51 |
| amitgandhinz | thinking about making it not required if shared_ssl = true | 19:51 |
| malini | +1 | 19:51 |
| *** atiwari has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:52 | |
| *** atiwari1 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:52 | |
| amitgandhinz | cool =) | 19:52 |
| amitgandhinz | anyone else? | 19:53 |
| amitgandhinz | i think everyone has asked a question =P | 19:53 |
| *** rmoe has quit IRC | 19:54 | |
| *** atiwari1 has quit IRC | 19:54 | |
| *** atiwari has quit IRC | 19:54 | |
| malini | guess tht is it? | 19:54 |
| obulpathi | I think so | 19:54 |
| *** atiwari has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:54 | |
| malini | 1 min never seemed longer :D | 19:54 |
| *** pballand has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:54 | |
| *** atiwari has quit IRC | 19:54 | |
| *** pballand has quit IRC | 19:54 | |
| amitgandhinz | hehe | 19:55 |
| amitgandhinz | ok thanks everyone | 19:55 |
| mpanetta | Sooo quiet | 19:55 |
| amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 19:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:55 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 8 19:55:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-01-08-19.00.html | 19:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-01-08-19.00.txt | 19:55 |
| malini | it was creepy | 19:55 |
| *** atiwari has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:55 | |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-01-08-19.00.log.html | 19:55 |
| miqui | cya folks... | 19:55 |
| *** catherineR has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:55 | |
| *** mpanetta has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:55 | |
| *** thangp has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** kobis has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:56 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** Barker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:57 | |
| *** amitgandhinz has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:57 | |
| *** jecarey has quit IRC | 19:59 | |
| *** pballand has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:00 | |
| *** rmoe has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:00 | |
| *** jecarey has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:01 | |
| *** megan_w__ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:03 | |
| *** megan_w_ has quit IRC | 20:04 | |
| *** jehb has quit IRC | 20:05 | |
| *** aleksandr_null has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:06 | |
| *** pballand has quit IRC | 20:06 | |
| *** EricGonc_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:08 | |
| *** pballand has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:09 | |
| *** EricGonczer_ has quit IRC | 20:09 | |
| *** banix has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:09 | |
| *** thomasem has quit IRC | 20:11 | |
| *** atiwari has quit IRC | 20:13 | |
| *** betsy_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:14 | |
| *** betsy has quit IRC | 20:15 | |
| *** betsy_ is now known as betsy | 20:15 | |
| *** thomasem has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:19 | |
| *** mattgriffin has quit IRC | 20:19 | |
| *** SridharRamaswamy has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:19 | |
| *** annashen has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:20 | |
| *** teran has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:22 | |
| *** teran has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** mattgriffin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:28 | |
| *** dboik has quit IRC | 20:29 | |
| *** dboik has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:30 | |
| *** ijw has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:31 | |
| *** yapeng has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:34 | |
| *** malini has quit IRC | 20:35 | |
| *** harlowja_away is now known as harlowja | 20:37 | |
| *** yapeng has quit IRC | 20:39 | |
| *** jecarey has quit IRC | 20:40 | |
| *** jecarey has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:41 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 20:41 | |
| *** jecarey_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:42 | |
| *** rondotcom has quit IRC | 20:42 | |
| *** jecarey has quit IRC | 20:45 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:46 | |
| *** jmontemayor has quit IRC | 20:48 | |
| *** kobis has quit IRC | 20:48 | |
| *** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:50 | |
| *** mrmartin has quit IRC | 20:51 | |
| *** david-lyle has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:54 | |
| *** dboik has quit IRC | 20:56 | |
| *** dboik has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:57 | |
| *** bdpayne has quit IRC | 20:57 | |
| *** lpabon has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:58 | |
| *** bdpayne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:58 | |
| *** pballand has quit IRC | 20:59 | |
| *** pballand has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:01 | |
| *** wbrothers has quit IRC | 21:02 | |
| *** ajo has quit IRC | 21:03 | |
| *** ajo has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:04 | |
| *** Barker has quit IRC | 21:05 | |
| *** ajo has quit IRC | 21:05 | |
| *** Barker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:07 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 21:09 | |
| *** chuckC_ has quit IRC | 21:11 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:12 | |
| *** rpjr has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:12 | |
| *** dboik has quit IRC | 21:13 | |
| *** rpjr is now known as rondotcom | 21:13 | |
| *** dboik has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:14 | |
| *** dboik has quit IRC | 21:14 | |
| *** dboik has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:14 | |
| *** ajo has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:15 | |
| *** daneyon has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:16 | |
| *** ajo has quit IRC | 21:16 | |
| *** daneyon has quit IRC | 21:17 | |
| *** dboik has quit IRC | 21:17 | |
| *** daneyon has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:17 | |
| *** dboik has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:18 | |
| *** ajo has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:18 | |
| *** noslzzp has quit IRC | 21:18 | |
| *** daneyon_ has quit IRC | 21:19 | |
| *** noslzzp has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:20 | |
| *** noslzzp has quit IRC | 21:20 | |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:20 | |
| *** dboik has quit IRC | 21:20 | |
| *** dboik has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:21 | |
| *** ddecapit has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:21 | |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 21:22 | |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:23 | |
| *** teran has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:23 | |
| *** andreykurilin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:23 | |
| *** ajo has quit IRC | 21:25 | |
| *** ajo has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:25 | |
| *** dboik has quit IRC | 21:25 | |
| *** dboik has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:26 | |
| *** mwang2 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:27 | |
| *** teran has quit IRC | 21:28 | |
| *** megan_w__ has quit IRC | 21:28 | |
| *** gyee has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:28 | |
| *** megan_w_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:29 | |
| *** megan_w_ has quit IRC | 21:30 | |
| *** megan_w_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:31 | |
| *** lpabon has quit IRC | 21:32 | |
| *** thomasem has quit IRC | 21:33 | |
| *** sergef has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:33 | |
| *** thomasem has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:34 | |
| *** Riddhi has quit IRC | 21:36 | |
| *** carl_baldwin has quit IRC | 21:40 | |
| *** ddecapit has quit IRC | 21:42 | |
| *** ycombinator_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:52 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 21:54 | |
| *** bdpayne has quit IRC | 21:55 | |
| *** dprince has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:57 | |
| *** ijw has quit IRC | 21:57 | |
| *** ijw has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:58 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:58 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 22:05 | |
| *** crc32 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:06 | |
| *** chellygel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:09 | |
| *** xyang1 has quit IRC | 22:10 | |
| *** dboik has quit IRC | 22:11 | |
| *** dboik has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:11 | |
| *** EmilienM is now known as EmilienM|afk | 22:17 | |
| *** pballand has quit IRC | 22:19 | |
| *** megan_w_ has quit IRC | 22:23 | |
| *** yapeng has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:23 | |
| *** megan_w_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:23 | |
| *** ycombinator_ has quit IRC | 22:23 | |
| *** pballand has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:23 | |
| *** bdpayne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:23 | |
| *** teran has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:24 | |
| *** obulpathi has quit IRC | 22:25 | |
| *** ycombinator_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:26 | |
| *** megan_w__ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:26 | |
| *** megan_w_ has quit IRC | 22:28 | |
| *** mwagner_lap has quit IRC | 22:28 | |
| *** david-lyle has quit IRC | 22:28 | |
| *** yapeng has quit IRC | 22:28 | |
| *** teran has quit IRC | 22:28 | |
| *** tkelsey has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:31 | |
| *** dbhaskaran has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:31 | |
| *** balajiiyer has quit IRC | 22:33 | |
| *** Rockyg has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:34 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:34 | |
| *** tkelsey has quit IRC | 22:35 | |
| *** dims__ has quit IRC | 22:36 | |
| *** dims__ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:37 | |
| *** amrith is now known as _amrith_ | 22:37 | |
| *** jecarey_ has quit IRC | 22:38 | |
| *** EricGonc_ has quit IRC | 22:40 | |
| *** dims__ has quit IRC | 22:41 | |
| *** ivar-lazzaro has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:43 | |
| *** avozza is now known as zz_avozza | 22:44 | |
| *** zz_avozza is now known as avozza | 22:44 | |
| *** flaper87 is now known as TheGuy | 22:45 | |
| *** Barker has quit IRC | 22:47 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 22:47 | |
| *** gholler has quit IRC | 22:48 | |
| *** thomasem has quit IRC | 22:49 | |
| *** pballand has quit IRC | 22:50 | |
| *** pballand has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:51 | |
| *** carl_baldwin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:51 | |
| *** dprince has quit IRC | 22:55 | |
| *** avozza is now known as zz_avozza | 22:57 | |
| *** tonytan4ever has quit IRC | 22:57 | |
| *** ijw has quit IRC | 22:58 | |
| *** annashen has quit IRC | 22:58 | |
| *** ijw has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:59 | |
| *** betsy has quit IRC | 23:00 | |
| *** pballand has quit IRC | 23:00 | |
| *** sigmavirus24 is now known as sigmavirus24_awa | 23:01 | |
| *** sergef has quit IRC | 23:02 | |
| *** Leon has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:02 | |
| *** Leon is now known as Guest15975 | 23:03 | |
| *** annashen has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:03 | |
| *** fito has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:05 | |
| *** TheGuy is now known as flaper87 | 23:06 | |
| *** Leonr has quit IRC | 23:06 | |
| *** crc32 has quit IRC | 23:06 | |
| *** Guest15975 has quit IRC | 23:07 | |
| *** pballand has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:07 | |
| *** cknight has quit IRC | 23:07 | |
| *** esker has quit IRC | 23:09 | |
| *** yapeng has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:09 | |
| *** Rockyg has quit IRC | 23:09 | |
| *** fito has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:12 | |
| *** zz_avozza is now known as avozza | 23:13 | |
| *** pballand has quit IRC | 23:14 | |
| *** pballand has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:14 | |
| *** jwcroppe has quit IRC | 23:15 | |
| *** jwcroppe has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:15 | |
| *** megan_w__ has quit IRC | 23:16 | |
| *** megan_w_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:16 | |
| *** HeOS has quit IRC | 23:17 | |
| *** banix has quit IRC | 23:19 | |
| *** jwcroppe has quit IRC | 23:20 | |
| *** mattfarina has quit IRC | 23:22 | |
| *** VW_ has quit IRC | 23:24 | |
| *** teran has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:24 | |
| *** dboik has quit IRC | 23:24 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:27 | |
| *** ijw_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:28 | |
| *** teran has quit IRC | 23:29 | |
| *** ajmiller_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:30 | |
| *** ijw has quit IRC | 23:31 | |
| *** ajmiller has quit IRC | 23:33 | |
| *** avozza is now known as zz_avozza | 23:33 | |
| *** watanabe_isao has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:34 | |
| *** dane_leblanc has quit IRC | 23:36 | |
| *** mattgriffin has quit IRC | 23:38 | |
| *** ajmiller_ has quit IRC | 23:39 | |
| *** ijw_ has quit IRC | 23:40 | |
| *** ijw has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:41 | |
| *** pballand has quit IRC | 23:44 | |
| *** jodah has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:44 | |
| *** megan_w_ has quit IRC | 23:45 | |
| *** megan_w_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:46 | |
| *** ivar-lazzaro has quit IRC | 23:49 | |
| *** megan_w_ has quit IRC | 23:50 | |
| *** noslzzp has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:51 | |
| *** Riddhi has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:52 | |
| *** dboik_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:57 | |
| *** daneyon has quit IRC | 23:58 | |
| *** banix has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:59 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.14.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!