Wednesday, 2014-09-17

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shadowerHello everyone! tchaypo is here but he's slacking off so you're stuck with me.08:00
shadower#startmeeting tripleo08:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 17 08:00:13 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is shadower. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)"08:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tripleo'08:00
d0ugalo/08:00
mariosmorning all08:00
lsmola2o/08:00
d0ugalmorning08:00
StevenKo/08:01
shadower\o08:01
* shadower is left-handed08:01
shadower#topic agenda08:01
shadower* bugs08:01
shadower* reviews08:01
shadower* Projects needing releases08:01
shadower* CD Cloud status08:01
*** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)"08:01
shadower* CI08:01
shadower* Tuskar08:01
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shadower* Specs08:01
shadower* open discussion08:01
shadowerRemember that you can and should use the #info and #link commands, too!08:01
shadower#topic bugs08:02
*** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)"08:02
shadower#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/08:02
shadower#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/08:02
shadower#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config08:02
shadower#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config08:02
shadower#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config08:02
pblahoo/08:02
shadower#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config08:02
shadower#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar08:02
shadower#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient08:02
* StevenK notes shadower is already telling lies, since the meeting is not in all caps08:02
shadowerOh no! We've got bugs!08:02
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shadower(this is not a lie)08:02
shadowerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/126329408:02
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1263294 in tripleo "ephemeral0 of /dev/sda1 triggers 'did not find entry for sda1 in /sys/block'" [Critical,In progress]08:02
shadowerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/136123508:02
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1361235 in tripleo "visit horizon failure because of import module failure" [Critical,In progress]08:02
shadowerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/136938108:02
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1369381 in tripleo "Neutron iptables-restore ipset commands failing" [Critical,In progress]08:02
shadowerthat's all the criticals for this week08:03
shadowerpeople seem to be working on them08:03
shadoweranyone has anything to say about these?08:03
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d0ugalShould those be #link'ed?08:03
shadowerd0ugal: feel free to link them ;-)08:03
d0ugal#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/126329408:04
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1263294 in tripleo "ephemeral0 of /dev/sda1 triggers 'did not find entry for sda1 in /sys/block'" [Critical,In progress]08:04
mariosso +bug/1263294 - fixes have both merged seems?08:04
d0ugal#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/136123508:04
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1361235 in tripleo "visit horizon failure because of import module failure" [Critical,In progress]08:04
d0ugal#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/136938108:04
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1369381 in tripleo "Neutron iptables-restore ipset commands failing" [Critical,In progress]08:04
shadowerlooks like the people working on the bugs are all asleep now (or at least should be)08:04
shadowerany other bugs anyone wants to discuss?08:04
shadowermoving swiftly along, then08:05
shadower#topic reviews08:05
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shadower#info There's a new dashboard linked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO#Review_team - look for "TripleO Inbox Dashboard"08:05
shadower#link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html08:05
shadower#link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt08:05
shadower#link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-90.txt08:05
shadowerStats since the last revision without -1 or -2 :08:05
shadowerAverage wait time: 7 days, 16 hours, 34 minutes08:05
shadower1st quartile wait time: 1 days, 3 hours, 7 minutes08:05
shadowerMedian wait time: 5 days, 19 hours, 23 minutes08:05
shadower3rd quartile wait time: 12 days, 10 hours, 16 minutes08:05
shadowerI don't actually know what the stat terms are about but I'll hazard a guess that it's bad as always08:06
derekhThis looks like its improving :   Queue growth in the last 30 days: 31 (1.0/day)08:06
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mariosis that an improvement on 3rd quartile?08:06
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shadoweroh, really?08:06
shadowercool08:06
shadowerDon't forget that if a review makes our stats bad, you can mark it as WIP.08:06
shadowerBonus points if a core gave it -1 and there's been no reply for 14 days08:06
* tchaypo waves08:07
tchaypothat's actually down on last week08:07
mariosyeah last week was: 19:33:27 <tchaypo> 3rd quartile wait time: 15 days, 19 hours, 38 minutes08:07
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mariosshadower: I feel like we should send something out to list about that08:07
mariosshadower: about the -1 of patches08:07
mariosshadower: it was discussed last week but afaik no action was taken08:08
d0ugalmarios: sounds like a good idea08:08
d0ugalYeah, I missed the last meeting so this is new to me08:08
shadowerany volunteers?08:08
mariosi'll do it08:08
shadower#action marios to email the list about WIPing patches that mess up our stats08:08
tchaypooh nice, that'll be a change from it being me talking about it :)08:08
tchaypoI can't WIP things though, not being core, which makes me sad08:09
d0ugaltchaypo: likewise :)08:09
d0ugalI mean :(08:09
* StevenK is *almost* a core08:09
shadowerjust ping a core and point them to a WIPable patches08:09
d0ugalStevenK: half core?08:09
shadowerthat's a couple clicks worth of work08:09
mariostchaypo: you can put it in the comments though which should have similar effect (at least until someone sees it and -1 it)08:09
derekhshadower: marios lets not start using language that suggest we're doing this to manipulate stats08:09
shadoweror that08:09
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StevenKd0ugal: When I spoke to lifeless over the weekend he said I have enough votes, just needs him to tell gerrit that I am08:10
shadowerderekh: okay08:10
d0ugalStevenK: Nice :)08:10
mariostchaypo: derekh: sure. imo it's just good housekeeping to enforce some kind of order on the review queue08:10
tchaypoYeah, I've been doing that08:10
derekhrather we are doing this to to avoid stale reviews gathering up, at leats thats the way I see it08:10
shadower#note for the record, shadower mas making jokes about us manipulating stats. Doing that was not anyone's intention08:10
tchaypod0ugal: you actually have the numbers to potentially be core though, I don't (yet)08:10
d0ugaltchaypo: heh, yeah, took a while to get there.08:11
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mariosStevenK: congrats :)08:11
StevenKOh, nice. d0ugal is just below me08:11
StevenK291 vs 27708:12
marios:( please don't start doing that with the review numbers.08:12
shadowerbnemec: you here by any chance? Last meeting notes you might look into adding a report of items that have a -1 from a core but no response for 14 days08:12
d0ugalStevenK: Oh yeah, I hadn't looked at that report for a while. neat.08:13
StevenKmarios: Not my intent to shame/brag08:13
d0ugalFWIW, I didn't take it that way :)08:13
mariosStevenK: i know, a bit unfar shouldn't be directed at your comment per se, just echoing what others are saying lately about us paying too much attention to the review queue and stats08:13
marioss/unfar/unfair08:13
shadowershall we move on?08:14
mariosand given that, your comment may well be mistaken as such by someone looking at the minutes08:14
d0ugalshadower: +108:14
shadower#topic Projects needing releases08:14
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shadowerthat'd be all of 'em again08:14
shadowerany volunteers?08:14
tchaypoto be clear, my comment about the numbers only meant that the numbers are a neccessary condition for becoming core, they're not a sufficient condition08:14
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mariosshadower: put me down unless someone else wants to try it08:15
mariosi'd encourage someone that hasn't done this yet to plan to. it is really easy08:15
tchaypothanks marios08:15
shadower#action marios will release all the things again because he's awesome08:15
StevenKEPERM for me, but I'm hoping to do so before Paris08:15
tchaypoStevenK has expressed interest but I don't think he's able to do it08:15
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shadower#topic CD Cloud status08:16
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StevenKNeed to be a member of tripleo-ptl on gerrit to do so. Let me get at least a few weeks of core under my belt before I ask08:16
shadowerderekh: anything to say here?08:16
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shadowerStevenK: afaik any core can make you a tripleo-ptl, no need to wait for lifeless once you decide to go for it08:16
derekhhp1 just about ready to turn back running CI, just want to try out the suggestion for greg08:17
tchaypoHP2 is starting to look slightly healthier - a lot of the patches we were carrying have landed, and other bugs are being fixed as I find them08:17
derekhsee my mail for more details08:17
derekhrh1 seems ok at the moment,08:17
tchaypoit turns out that trying to build a cloud from trunk is (A) difficult, and (B) a moving target08:17
shadowerI would have never guessed08:17
derekhalthough last night this happened https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/137027508:17
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1370275 in tripleo "Jenkins nodes being reused" [High,Triaged]08:17
derekhI hope it isn't a rh1 problems08:18
derekhto that end, can I get some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122018/08:18
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* derekh over08:18
shadowerthanks08:19
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shadower#note we need some eyballs on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122018/08:19
shadower#topic CI08:19
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shadoweranyone have anything to say?08:20
derekhon CI we have had a least 4 (If not more) seperate sets of CI probelems due to the ironic driver to nova tree08:21
shadower:-(08:21
derekhbut those seem to be stabalized now, basically things were broke more then normal for the last week08:21
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derekhAksi check-tripleo-novabm-overcloud-precise-nonha seems to be failing a lot08:22
derekhbut tripleo isn't voting on it, anybody know why ?08:22
shadowerbecause it's failing a lot?08:22
shadowerI do remember someone asking reviewers to try and pay attention to it08:22
StevenKIt's a non-HA job, it should be voting ?08:22
shadoweroh non-ha08:23
shadowerI misread that08:23
shadowerno idea08:23
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derekhWe don't run it, it was removed when hp1 was taken down08:23
derekhbut other projects run it08:23
derekhI might just turn it back on non voting08:23
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derekhso people see it failing, somebody will fix it :-)08:24
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shadowergood thinking08:24
shadoweryeah I've seen it in Heat checks08:24
derekhok, that all from me, /action derekh will turn back on the precise overcloud job for tripleo projects08:24
shadower#action derekh will turn back on the precise overcloud job for tripleo projects08:24
shadowerthanks08:25
derekhyup, heat would be seeing the failures a lot but tripleo don't08:25
shadoweryea08:25
shadower#topic Tuskar08:25
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shadowerd0ugal, lsmola ?08:25
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d0ugalNothing specific to report from me.08:25
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shadowerok08:26
shadowerafaik, jdob is working on handling top-level resources, parameters and outputs in Tuskar08:26
shadowerthat's all I know08:26
d0ugalI'm working on the updated Tuskar element08:27
shadowercool08:27
d0ugalbut yeah, basically working towards full end to end testing - reviews etc. are looking pretty good.08:27
lsmolashadower: nothing from my side08:27
shadowerany reviews you want to highlight?08:27
shadowerokay, moving on08:28
d0ugalI don't think so, our reviews are moving fairly fast at the moment08:28
* shadower will have to increase the timeouts08:28
shadower#topic Specs08:28
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d0ugalOh, this should ideally be merged - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116416/08:28
d0ugalTuskar install is a bit broken otherwise I think.08:29
d0ugalsorry, a bit late :)08:29
shadower#note some eyballs on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116416/ too, please08:29
tchaypothat one is barely a few weeks old08:29
tchaypoheat managed to land one today dating from july08:29
tchaypoit was on the 60th revision08:29
shadowerwow08:29
d0ugaltchaypo: heh, nice, the age is less relevant than the impact in this case :)08:30
shadowerso, specs08:30
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shadowernothing new landed as far as can see08:31
shadoweranyone want to discuss their favourite spec?08:31
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d0ugalDon't specs need to wait for K now?08:32
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shadowerokay, moving on08:33
tchaypoI thought tripleo didn't follow the release cycle/didn't have a freeze?08:33
shadower#topic open discussion08:33
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shadoweror not08:33
shadowertchaypo: yea me too, but maybe we do for specs?08:33
lsmolastill the specs are under /juno/08:33
shadowerI honestly don't know08:33
lsmolathat should probably change08:33
tchaypoWe should probably at least move them all to /kilo/08:34
d0ugal+108:34
lsmolayeah08:34
derekhfwiw I put them under juno when I was creating the specs repo, mainly because I copied the nova repo08:34
shadowerok, open discussion take two08:36
shadowerIronic developers: congrats for graduating!08:36
tchaypo+108:36
d0ugal\o/08:37
StevenK\o/08:37
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derekhI'd like to get os-collect-config properly into logstash this week, so can somebody take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120394/ please08:37
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derekho and grats ironic :-)08:38
shadower#note eyballs on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120394/ to get os-collect-config into logstash08:38
tchaypoAt the mid-cycle, I felt like we had a lot of discussions that came down to devs/ops having different needs when they're dstarting out with tripleo08:38
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tchaypoI'd like to start talking more about getting better docs/scripts/etc to give clearer landing-strips for both08:39
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tchaypoFor ops, who want to get a cloud up quickly with minimum fuss, I kinda like the way helion distributes a pre-built seed08:40
tchaypo(although I don't like helion's heft hardware requirements)08:41
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tchaypofor devs, lifeless posted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85636/ a long time ago; but my current feeling is that it isn't quite what we need08:41
tchaypocinerama has done some work on writing tripleorc earlier (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108801/) so that devs can start changing settings inside that instead of a seperate little-documented .devtestrc08:43
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tchaypoI think that needs some more work before it's ready - if nothing else, we have lots of info to put into that file that isn't ready when devtest_variables is first run so we probably need some way to append to that as we go08:43
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shadowerokay, shall we wrap this up?08:47
shadowertchaypo: I agree, better docs will be quite important especially as we start getting more users08:48
shadowernot just for the initial installation but also for updates & keeping it alive08:48
tchaypoOh, the other thing is08:49
tchaypoStevenK: can i poke you tomorrow about starting the process of getting prep_source_repos on-boarded as a project?08:49
tchaypoProbably under stackforge at this point08:49
StevenKtchaypo: I guess? But I have no idea either08:50
tchaypok.08:50
tchaypocool, let's go. Thanks shadower08:51
shadowerno problem08:51
shadower#endmeeting08:51
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d0ugalshadower: thanks!08:51
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shadowerthanks everyone08:52
marioso/ thanks tomas08:52
StevenKThanks!08:52
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* pcm__ sorry joined late. Any meeting?15:06
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pcm__No DVR meeting?15:08
pcm__Ah see it was cancelled.15:09
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SukhdevHello ML2'ers16:00
yamamotohi16:00
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Sukhdevrkukura: are you here?16:01
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Sukhdev#startmeeting networking_ml216:02
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openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 17 16:02:20 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:02
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Sukhdev#topic: Agenda16:02
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Sukhdev#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Agenda16:03
Sukhdev#topic: Announcements:16:03
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SukhdevAnybody has any announcements?16:03
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shivharisRC1 is tomorrow?16:03
shivharisplease confirm16:04
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Sukhdevshivharis: I believe so16:04
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Sukhdev#link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/juno-rc116:04
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Sukhdevsee the content of RC116:04
rkukurahi - sorry I’m late16:04
shivharisSukhdev: thanks16:04
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Sukhdevrkukura: you will buy cookies for everybody :-)16:05
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rkukuraI’ve got a couple of Doubletree cookies in my backpack16:05
Sukhdevrkukura: :-)16:05
SukhdevI have one more announcement16:06
shivharisI need the parisian kind..16:06
Sukhdevshivharis: you guys settle in the parking lot16:06
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SukhdevThere is an etherpad for Kilo Summit16:06
Sukhdev#link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-neutron-summit-topics16:07
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SukhdevYou will see there are bunch of ML2 related topics on this already16:07
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SukhdevWe can use it initially and then move to our own ML2 specific etherpad16:08
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rkukuraI don’t expect there to be much time at the summit for ML2-specific sessions, so we should think about how to make the best use of it.16:08
shivharisOr we can just mark them with [ML2]16:09
Sukhdevrkukura had an action to create our etherpad - until if it created, we can use this main Neutron16:09
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rkukuraI’d don’t see much point in a separate ML2 etherpad, so lets use the main one.16:09
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Sukhdevrkukura: I am OK with that16:10
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SukhdevPerhaps we should wait and see how big of a list we get for ML2 and then decide16:10
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Sukhdevrkukura: we may get one or two sessions16:11
rkukuraone other idea for the summit is to get driver writers together for an hour or two on Friday to talk about the new driver APIs (in Juno and deferred) and things like that.16:11
amotokihi, sorry for late16:11
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shivharisrkukura: +116:12
Sukhdevrkukura: In Atlanta that was very effective - we can use it for a bigger scope this time16:12
amotokirkukura: sounds good. I hope we can avoid the driver API change at the last minutes of the release in Kilo.16:13
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rkukuraamotoki: +116:13
Sukhdevrkukura: Other than what is on the etherpad, can anybody think of any other topics to be included?16:14
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SukhdevWe can discuss more about it later in the meeting16:15
rkukuraMaybe something on generalizing the distributed port binding stuff that was added for DVR16:15
banixWill try to get the modular L2 agent work restarted so by the time we get to the summit we have more substantial info; anyone interested please contact me16:15
rkukuraAlso, making DVR work with ML2 network types other than tunnels.16:15
rkukurabanix: +116:16
Sukhdevbanix: yes, we should16:16
Sukhdevrkukura: I do not believe these topics are on the etherpad, can you please add them16:16
rkukuraok16:16
shivharisbanix: is the benefit quite limited for this effort16:17
Sukhdevany body has any announcement?16:17
shivharisbanix: not many agent types16:17
shivharisbanix: lets take it offline16:17
banixshivharis: sure16:17
amotokiI have a plan to split RPC callback per feature on agent side in kilo.16:17
Sukhdevamotoki: should it be on the sessions list?16:18
amotokiSukhdev: I don't think so. It is a kind of refactoring.16:18
Sukhdevamotoki: OK16:18
amotokiSukhdev: i commented this on the xcontext of modular L2 agent.16:18
Sukhdevamotoki: got it - thanks for clarification16:19
banixamotoki: yes, will be in touch; with shivharis padkrish as well16:19
SukhdevOK - lets move on..16:19
shivharisamotoki: +1 (versioning will also help)16:19
Sukhdev#topic: Actions from last week16:19
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Sukhdevbanix: Any update on the tempest testing for bulk operations?16:20
banixthe one for me. background: we wanted to see if we need more tempest tests for bulk create options; in particular tests where some mechanism drivers fail (partial fail scenarios); my understanding is tempest is not the place for such tests16:20
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banixasked mlavalle to join us today16:20
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Sukhdevmlavalle: are you here?16:20
mlavallebanix: hi16:20
banixhi mlavalle and thanks for joing us16:21
banixLooking at tempest tests I see bulk ops being tested16:21
mlavallebanix: correct, they are16:21
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shivharismlavalle: we were trying to do negative tests - where does this kind of a test fit in?16:22
banixthe question was if we should have some tests for partial failure cases where for example one of the mechanism drivers fail16:22
mlavallebanix: I assume that the test script would have to mess with the driver and make it fail.... assuming that I don't think tempest is the right tool.... tempest is api based testing16:23
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shivharismlavelle: tempest has scenario tests as well16:23
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banixyeah; one possibility would be having a faulty mechanism (not there but we could add) driver for such tests; in that case one wouldnt need to change the driver;16:24
shivharismlavalle: typo before16:24
mlavalleshivharis: correct, but it's all api based16:24
mlavalleshivharis: rest api I should say16:24
Sukhdevmlavalle: can we come up with a scenario test for this?16:25
shivharismlavalle: got it, maybe tempest can be extended of these kind of tests?16:25
mlavalleSukhdev: of course, we can explore the possibility16:25
mlavalleshivharis: ^^^^^16:25
Sukhdevmlavalle: The idea is it will be similar to Bulk API test, but, we would want to fail some of the drivers16:26
mlavalleSukhdev, shivharis: let's define the scenario and from there see what tool we c should use.... another alternitve is marun's functional tests16:26
rkukuraIt might be reasonable to have a special driver where failures are triggered by special values being set on some port attribute via the REST API16:27
mlavalleSukhdev, shivharis: i'll be happy to invest some time defining this.... in fact, it is my plan to join the ml2 team for the kilo cycle16:27
shivharisyou mean negeative functional test16:27
Sukhdevbanix, shivharis: OK lets discuss it off line and see if can define a reasonable scenario to test it16:27
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rkukuramlavalle: +216:27
Sukhdevmlavalle: we would love that16:28
banixSukhdev: mlavalle sounds good16:28
shivharisSukhdev, mlavalle: ok16:28
shivharisso where does this put banix's patch?16:28
mlavalle:-)16:28
padkrishany docs, ptrs on marun's functional tests? for what cases is it needed, what does it accomplish that current tests do not etc?16:28
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Sukhdev#Action: banix to work with mlavalle and others to define scenario test for Bulk Ops testing16:29
banixshivharis: let’s talk about that in the bug section (coming up soon :) )16:29
banixwill do16:29
mlavallepadkrish: marun's tests are still experimental... we can start digging in here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72585/16:29
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Sukhdevmlavalle, banix: I assigned you and action - hope you are OK16:29
mlavalleSukhdev: perfect!16:29
banixSukhdev: yes on my side16:29
SukhdevNext item:16:30
SukhdevI updated the wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tracking_ML2_Subgroup_Reviews#Under_Review16:30
shivharis(30 mins left)16:30
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padkrishmlavalle# Thanks. i thought it's well established, based on the comments i got!!!16:30
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SukhdevMoved all the specs that were deferred to Kilo16:30
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SukhdevPlease have a look and feel free to update/correct16:31
shivharisis there a directory created for this?16:31
Sukhdevshivharis: you mean for Kilo specs?16:31
shivharis(in neutron-specs_16:31
shivharisyes16:31
Sukhdevshivharis: I believe so - I have heard chatter on the IRC, but, please confirm - If not, just create it and move it there16:31
SukhdevAs to the third item on Action, we already covered the etherpad issue -16:32
SukhdevFor now lets use the main one and later we will decide if we need a specific one for ML216:32
Sukhdevrkukura: want to add anything more?16:33
rkukuranope16:33
SukhdevOk - moving on the important part16:33
Sukhdev#topic: Bugs/Reviews16:33
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Sukhdevshivharis: want to chime in?16:33
shivharishi16:33
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shivhariswe had a lot of progress on the bugs during the week. some got merged. thanks to all who contributed, including cores16:34
shivharisi was hesitent to ask cores for help when jenkins failed ...16:35
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shivharis.. but is appears that there is a critical bug out there that may be coming in the way16:35
banixneutron jobs have been failing functional tests since yesterday16:35
shivharishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/137034716:36
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1370347 in neutron "check-neutron-dsvm-functional fails with DistributionNotFound" [Critical,New]16:36
shivharisif you have more info please add to it.16:36
shivharisCurrently the bug is unassigned... :-(16:36
amotokiI believe it is one of the hot topics of -neutron channel.16:37
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shivharisany takers?16:37
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banixnot ml2 specific by the way16:37
amotokinot sure. I havent checked whether a patch is proposed to make the fucntional job non-voting.16:37
shivharisbanix, rcurran: can you add what you experience in your patches16:37
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shivharisbanix: atleast one can add the pointer to the patch/logs16:38
rcurranshivharis, i don't have any reviews out16:38
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banixsome time yesterday jenkin jobs started failing16:38
amotoki *just due to my absence in the channel this evening.16:38
rcurranshivharis, you referring to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105514/16:38
shivharisrcurran: last time you were pushing for 10551416:38
shivharisrcurran: yes16:38
banixissue may be related to new version of rootwrap; quick fix to make that test non voting16:39
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rcurranshivharis, covering for another eng - Abishek Subramanian16:39
shivharisanyways please add pointers in the bug report to the patches so folks can look at the logs if need be16:39
shivharismoving on...16:40
shivhariswe have until tomorrow for RC116:40
shivharisand 2 high bugs need to be addressed16:40
shivharisrkukura: you have one of those16:40
rkukurashivharis: yes16:40
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shivharisrkukura: you will make it right? :-)16:41
amotokiWill RC1 be shipped this week? I missed the team meeting yesterday.16:41
Sukhdevamotoki, rkukura: can you look at this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11399916:41
banixamotoki: date was not mentioned during the weekly meeting16:41
amotokibanix: thanks.16:42
rkukuraThe complicating factor on the bug I’m working on is the router_id and status fields in the dvr_port_bindings table - if I figure those out, I may have a patch in a day or two.16:42
banixamotoki: i meant Neutron weekly meeting; you may be referring to a different meeting16:42
amotokibanix: i mean the neutron weekly meeting. we are in the same page.16:42
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rkukuraSukhdev: I’ll finishing reviewing banix’s patch - hoped to do that on the plane yesterday evening, but no wifi :(16:43
shivharisthe other high bug is not for ml2 but shows up in the search16:43
Sukhdevrkukura: it is almost criminal these days to loose wifi :-):-)16:44
shivharisI think overall we look fine for RC1, please see the summary with:16:44
shivharishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron?field.searchtext=ml2&field.milestone%3Alist=6738216:44
Sukhdevbanix: You patch looks good - I reviewed it yesterday16:44
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Sukhdev^you^your^16:45
shivharisso i will look see if i can get cores for 105514 and for banix's patch16:45
banixSukhdev, shivharis thanks16:45
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Sukhdevshivharis: few of them are here - pasture them, I already did :-):-)16:45
shivharisAnyone has bugs/reviews that need help?16:46
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shivharisplease post your links here...16:46
Sukhdevshivharis: Thanks for covering for bugs16:46
shivhariswaiting 60 seconds, then back to you Sukhdev16:46
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SukhdevLets move to last topic of today16:47
Sukhdev#topic: Open Discussion16:47
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shivharisSukhdev: thats all i have16:47
Sukhdevshivharis: Thanks16:47
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SukhdevWe covered enough about Kilo sessions for ML2 - anybody wants to add anything more?16:48
Sukhdevwaiting….waiting….waiting...16:49
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SukhdevI guess we are done….16:49
banixthanks all!16:49
SukhdevThanks folks….16:49
Sukhdev#endmeeting16:49
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rkukurathanks Sukhdev!16:49
banixbye16:49
rkukurabye16:49
shivharisbye16:49
yamamotobye16:50
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mugsie#startmeeting Designate17:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 17 17:00:03 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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mugsieKiall is on another call today, so he wont be joining17:00
mugsiewho's here?17:00
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mugsieand i think everyone just netsplit17:00
rjrjr_o/17:00
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mugsiejust going to give people a chance to reconnect17:01
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mugsieeveryone back?17:02
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mugsie#topic Action Items from last week17:02
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mugsiekiall to attempt an o/r change for dnspython17:02
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mugsieI will push that on17:02
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mugsie#action kiall to attempt an o/r change for dnspython17:02
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mugsierjrjr_: Write up on handling error status in server pools17:03
rjrjr_it is in the specs17:03
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mugsieok cool, I havent had time today to  re read them yet17:03
rjrjr_specifically the pool manager spec17:03
mugsieok, do we want to take 4-5mins to read them?17:03
rjrjr_i'm okay with that.  vinod, betsy?17:04
betsysure17:04
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vinod1sure - looks like the build failed - so we need to read the "raw" spec17:04
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rjrjr_yes, please read the raw.  i'll fix the build failure.  took almost 2  hours to tell me that. 8^)17:05
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betsyI went over this one quickly before the meeting and had a couple of questions17:05
mugsierjrjr_: yeah - sphinx can be a pain for that ;)17:05
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mugsiefor betsy's second question - could we not use the status field? we may need to add an additional status of DELETE_PENDING, but it saves having extra coloumns17:08
rjrjr_where are the questions?17:08
betsyI put them in the doc17:08
mugsiecomments on the review17:09
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mugsieeveryone finished?17:10
rjrjr_okay.  for the first comment, we only need to know if the create is ERROR or SUCCESS in pool manager.17:10
betsyyes17:10
rjrjr_PENDING is a status in the domains table.17:10
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vinod1yes17:10
betsySo, the status is known when that record is written?17:11
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mugsieyes rjrjr_ I would agree with that17:11
mugsiebetsy: yes17:11
betsyok17:11
rjrjr_it is PENDING in the domain table to start.17:11
rjrjr_it will be SUCCESS or ERROR in the status table after each backend is called.17:12
rjrjr_then it will be SUCCESS or ERROR in the domain table.17:12
betsyok. makes sense17:12
mugsie:)17:12
rjrjr_i added a 'deactivate' field to the record table.17:12
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rjrjr_pertaining to the second question.17:13
rjrjr_records table.17:13
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betsyRight. I was just wondering why the existing status field couldn’t be used17:13
betsyinstead of the new field17:13
rjrjr_but, i can use DELETE_PENDING.  that will work.  the intent is the same.17:13
rjrjr_i'll change it.17:14
mugsierjrjr_: I prefer that (not sure why, but I do)17:14
mugsiethnaks17:14
mugsieoverall I think it is good17:14
betsy+117:14
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mugsiecan we move on?17:14
mugsieor is there anything else people have on this?17:15
betsyI’m good17:15
mugsie#topic Release Status (kiall - recurring)17:15
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mugsie#link https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/juno-rc117:15
mugsieanything people are seeing that should be there, or should not be there?17:15
mugsieI believe that 1368863 is underway17:16
betsyWhat about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119890/17:16
mugsieyup, adding that now17:16
mugsieanything else?17:17
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jordanPi've just filled : https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/137062117:17
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1370621 in designate "Bing9 PTR Zone error : multiple RRs of singleton type" [Undecided,New]17:17
jordanPthis is problematic to me, I hope to be able to work on this tomorrow17:18
vinod1#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/136795417:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1367954 in designate "API displays deleted recordsets" [Undecided,Fix committed]17:18
jordanPbut as I am new to designate, I don't know if I will be able to do much, we'll see17:18
mugsiejordanP: I wont target it, but if it gets in before the deadline there should be no problem taking the fix17:19
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jordanPmugsie, okay17:19
mugsiejordanP: actually, I will target it to rc1, we can move it on if needs be17:20
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mugsiemeans we will keep it in the list17:20
vinod1https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/136599617:20
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1365996 in designate "Downgrading to version 38 fails with AttributeError" [High,Fix committed]17:20
rjrjr_it is adding a 2nd SOA record?17:20
jordanPrjrjr_, it looks like it17:21
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mugsiejordanP: is this using the floating IP API, or the standard API?17:21
jordanPfloating IP17:21
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mugsieok - can you record that in the bug as well?17:22
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jordanPdoing it right now17:22
mugsiethanks :)17:22
mugsieok - not sure ifthis is left over from last week -17:22
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mugsie#topic Server Pools - some questions clarifications (vinod)17:22
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mugsiewas this dealt with?17:23
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betsyI can look at that bug if noone else is17:23
mugsiebetsy: I think jordanP is17:23
mugsiejordanP: if you are, I can assign it to you17:23
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betsyjordanP: ping me if you have questions17:24
jordanPI will have a try tomorrow, yes. If am failing to do anything, I will remove myself from the assigne17:24
mugsiegreat!17:24
mugsievinod1: Server Pools - some questions clarifications <- Is this for this week as well?17:24
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vinod1oaky regarding the questions - we had some discussions last week - but wanted to wait for more people to show up - specifically mugsie :-)17:25
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mugsie:)17:25
vinod1copying the 1st question from the agenda17:25
vinod1currently we have status values of pending, active, deleted - should we have a value for error? How long can a change be in pending? Do we need to track pending_since?17:25
vinod1rjrjr_: It appears that we now have an error status - correct?17:26
rjrjr_correct.17:26
rjrjr_by the way, i also need a DELETE_PENDING_ERROR if we add DELETE_PENDING.17:26
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vinod1So the remaining question that I have is how long would a change be in PENDING?17:26
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mugsieok, in order - yes we should have errors (see ^), hum... thats a good question, and pending since can be tracked via the last_modified date + status17:26
mugsierjrjr_: DELETE_PENDING_ERROR makes sense17:27
mugsiehow long - I dont know17:27
vinod1but if we have multiple changes to the zone - would that give us an accurate picture of pending_since?17:27
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betsyProbably needs to be configurable17:27
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rjrjr_i think we won't need this.17:27
mugsieyes, as we really only care about the last change17:27
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mugsierjrjr_: yeah - I think that might be an operator thing to keep track of17:28
rjrjr_scope creep...17:28
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mugsieeg nova / neutron etc dont do anything with this stuff17:28
rjrjr_can we address that kind of thing later.17:28
mugsierjrjr_: got it in one17:28
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mugsieI thik we leave them in the DB as is17:28
mugsiewe can revisit when we have an idea of what the issues are, and what would need to happen to domains in pending states17:29
mugsiedoes that seem ok?17:29
vinod1okay - can the user deleting pending recordsets/zones?17:29
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vinod1s/deleting/delete17:29
mugsiedeleted ?17:29
mugsieno17:29
rjrjr_domains won't remain in PENDING.  they will go to ACTIVE or ERROR pretty quickly depending on how many servers.17:30
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rjrjr_question is, can a user delete an ERROR record or zone?17:30
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mugsieI would say yes17:31
betsymugsie:+117:31
mugsiein theory that domain could be costing them money17:31
mugsieso we allow deletion17:31
mugsieany other clarifications needed?17:32
vinod1no - everything is good and wonderful and rosy :-)17:32
mugsie:)17:32
mugsie#topic Server Pools Implementation Order (vinod)17:33
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mugsiewas this part of last week, or did this require me as well?17:33
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vinod1#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/SubTeams/Pools#Server_Pools_Implementation_Order17:33
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rjrjr_i thought the order was determined by the specs?17:33
rjrjr_minidns support17:34
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rjrjr_server pool storage17:34
rjrjr_followed by server pool manager17:34
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vinod1The primary motivation here was to see if we could work in parallel on the various tasks17:34
rjrjr_and server pool REST API17:34
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rjrjr_each spec has sub categories (central, storage, etc.)17:35
mugsieI think the order of the spec is ptretty much it17:35
mugsiespecs*17:35
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mugsiebut, the manager & storage can happen in parallel17:36
rjrjr_those can be done in parallel for the most part.17:36
mugsiethe majority of it canbe17:36
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mugsiecan be*17:36
betsyrjrjr_: Do you have the bandwidth to do both?17:36
rjrjr_yes17:36
rjrjr_but obviously not in paralle.17:37
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mugsiethere  will be some hooking up work, but eg getting a swervice up and runnign, and talking to backends can happen independantly of storage17:37
rjrjr_parallel.17:37
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mugsierjrjr_: you can't type on 2 keyboards at the same time?17:37
mugsie:D17:37
betsyrjrjr_: I’ve got cycles at the moment. I could help with storage or the basic service17:38
rjrjr_okay.17:38
rjrjr_i know vinod and tim were also interested in helping, but i haven't heard from them.17:38
betsyDo you want to ping me after the meeting and talk about it?17:38
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rjrjr_on what they were interested in.17:38
rjrjr_yes.17:38
mugsieok - cool17:38
mugsie#topic Open Discussion17:38
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rjrjr_so specs mostly done and we can move onto coding now?17:39
mugsiei think so17:39
rjrjr_do i commit to master?17:39
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mugsiebut, we are in a RC phase, so any work people can do on open bugs would be great17:39
betsyThe API spec (mine) came late to the table and doesn’t have any comments yet17:39
rjrjr_or do we have a branch for server pools?17:39
betsyBut that’s later down the road anyway17:39
mugsie#action all - re-read all pools specs, and confirm17:39
mugsierjrjr_: no, we are on master17:39
rjrjr_cool. 8^)17:40
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mugsiewe do have 39 open bugs - so getting those down before we release juno would be good17:40
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mugsieI know we have been finding a few recently17:41
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rjrjr_okay.  do you want me to start server pool coding or work on bugs?17:41
vinod1ok - i will starting looking at the other open bugs17:41
mugsieas part of the openstack release cycle this time is supposed to be bugs17:41
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rjrjr_i have bandwidth and will do what the team needs.17:41
betsyme, too17:41
mugsieso I would personally like to get the bogs down as much as we can17:42
mugsiebugs*17:42
rjrjr_okay, bugs.  server pools in the background. 8^)17:42
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mugsieyeah - your fun side project ;)17:42
betsy:D17:42
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mugsieanyone have any other itmes?17:42
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betsyI’m good17:43
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rjrjr_same here.17:43
mugsiecool - thanks everyone!17:43
mugsie#endmeeting17:43
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amcrn#startmeeting trove18:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 17 18:00:19 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is amcrn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'trove'18:00
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cp16netwhat up amcrn18:00
amcrnwhat's up cp16net :)18:01
grapexo/18:01
vgnbkro/18:01
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cp16netwaiting on my new lappy to be delivered...18:01
sgotlivo/18:02
dougshelley66o/18:02
cp16netwaiting is the hardest part18:02
amcrncp16net: nice. you're not going to accidentally ruin this one too are you18:02
tomblanko/18:02
amcrn;)18:02
cp16nethaha i better not :-P18:02
amcrnwe'll give it a minute or two for a few folks to trickle in, but the agenda seems to blank, so this should be short18:02
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amcrnto be*18:02
dougshelley66so you guys that were at OSSV - how was the panel?18:03
cp16netthose are the longest meetings tho :-P18:03
kevinconwayo/18:03
amcrndougshelley66: i feel it went well18:03
peterstaco/18:03
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dougshelley66amcrn, that's good18:04
dougshelley66amcrn, any tough questions18:04
amcrn#topic general discussion18:04
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amcrnso with no action items on the agenda, does anyone have anything for general discussion?18:04
amcrndougshelley66: a couple of interesting ones, but nothing mind blowing18:04
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cp16netgrilled cheese is amazing.18:05
mattgriffino/18:05
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grapexThanks for merging that config parm fix for fake mode18:05
grapexamcrn: ^18:05
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cp16netthats all i have18:05
amcrngrapex: no problem.18:05
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grapexI've been working on the new event simulator. In theory it seems easy enough- I'm using greenlet directly which exposes a really simple way to do true coroutines which is all I ever wanted for the event simulator18:05
grapexthanks to kevinconway for that tip18:05
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grapexbut it's locking up when I run the tests. Something is causing it to hang18:06
grapexif I can figure that out I think it could be ready pretty soon18:06
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kevinconwaythanks to kevinconway for that bug?18:06
amcrngrapex: excellent, looking forward to continued progress on that front; cheers to you and kevinconway18:06
peterstacI've got a question:  Anyone know what the guest_id option in cfg.py is for?18:06
amcrnpeterstac: it's used for /etc/guest_info, which the guest uses to register to the rabbitmq topic18:06
peterstacWhen I add a help line to it, the guest agent fails to start (due to dupe option)18:07
grapexamcrn: No problem. Always glad to help!18:07
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peterstacamcrn: Ah, so I can't just delete it :(18:07
robertmyerspeterstac it is defined in the trove-guestagent bin18:07
robertmyersin trove/cmd/guest.py18:07
robertmyerspossibly remove it from there and add to cfg18:08
peterstacright, so any ideas about why adding a help string to it would cause a complaint about duped options?18:08
robertmyerscause is is defiend twice18:08
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peterstacso if it's defined in trove/cmd/guest.py can I take it out of cfg.py ?18:09
robertmyersyes18:09
peterstacrobertmyers ^^18:09
peterstacrobertmyers: ok, solved, thanks!18:09
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amcrnalright, if that does it, let's give some time back to folks and end the meeting18:09
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amcrnanything else?18:09
robertmyerspeterstac: possibly all the guest options need to be in a different cfg.py18:09
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robertmyersas they aren't needed in trove api18:10
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amcrnalright, calling it. if there's more on this cfg.py for guest conversation, we can spill it over into the main channel.18:11
amcrnthanks everyone!18:11
peterstacrobertmyers: sure, but I'll leave for a different bug ;)18:11
amcrn#endmeeting18:11
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grapexThanks amcrn!18:11
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