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| nikhil__ | o/ | 14:01 |
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| jokke_ | \o | 14:01 |
| d0ugal | o/ | 14:01 |
| arnaud__ | o/ | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | \o | 14:02 |
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| nikhil__ | we r here markwash | 14:04 |
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| ewindisch_ | o/ | 14:04 |
| gokrokve | o/ | 14:04 |
| nikhil__ | just fyi | 14:04 |
| ativelkov | o/ | 14:04 |
| ewindisch_ | does someone else want to startmeeting? | 14:04 |
| markwash | hi hi! | 14:05 |
| markwash | #startmeeting glance | 14:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 5 14:05:05 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markwash. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:05 |
| markwash | quick update from me for project stuff | 14:05 |
| markwash | There are some notes on the email list and in the openstack/governance repo for adopting a mission statement for the Images program | 14:06 |
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| markwash | actually there's two changes: 1) adopt a mission statement that reflects our old mission 2) change the mssion statement to reflect the catalog / api artifacts stuff | 14:06 |
| markwash | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/036767.html | 14:07 |
| markwash | that's it from me, any thoughts folks wanna share? | 14:07 |
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| rosmaita | i put coments on the reviews | 14:08 |
| arnaud__ | markwash, do we want to rename everywhere we mention Image Service? | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | I replied to the mail | 14:09 |
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| markwash | jokke_: yeah I saw your question. honestly I'm okay with squashing them but I think the process-y folks are going to prefer we adopt one officially before we change it | 14:09 |
| markwash | since it is a change to adopt the catalog approach | 14:09 |
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| markwash | arnaud__: like, s/image/catalog/? | 14:10 |
| arnaud__ | yep | 14:10 |
| markwash | arnaud__: I have the same question | 14:10 |
| ewindisch_ | I like the two-step as it clarifies and records the change | 14:10 |
| arnaud__ | I mean much of the documentation is refering to image service | 14:10 |
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| jokke_ | markwash: that's perfectly understandable ... just wanted to hear what's the story behind it as it kind of seemed to be bit silly couple out there ;) | 14:10 |
| nikhil__ | what do we do about logic around data? | 14:11 |
| markwash | I was thinking of putting a comment in my own review to the effect that we should consider changing the program name from images. . but I bet there is a lot to change as you say so I wanna get some feedback from the infra/tc type folks | 14:11 |
| markwash | nikhil__: can you elaborate a little on your question? | 14:12 |
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| nikhil__ | currently, Images service seems to indicate most (if not everthing to do with images) | 14:12 |
| nikhil__ | including properties and image data ownership | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | so if we call it "Artifact Repository Service", that covers that we don't actually create artifacts, we just store, catalog, and make avaialable | 14:13 |
| nikhil__ | if we rename the program to catalog, wondering if there would be immediate side effects | 14:13 |
| markwash | nikhil__: I think with artifacts / the catalog, much of that data stuff stays the same, since images are just a type of artifact | 14:14 |
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| nikhil__ | (like people creating other tiny little services to deal with it) | 14:14 |
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| rosmaita | i agree that glance is not simply a catalog | 14:15 |
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| markwash | rosmaita: oh I see. so artifact repository service is an alternative to catalog | 14:15 |
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| rosmaita | markwash: exactly | 14:15 |
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| rosmaita | i think "repository" implies particular types of services | 14:16 |
| nikhil__ | yeah | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | cataloging, discovery, delivery, storage | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | basically, what glance does | 14:16 |
| markwash | ah I see | 14:16 |
| TravT | what about the idea of the metadata catalog API? is metadata a kind of artifact? | 14:16 |
| nikhil__ | that seems to cover a broader area of services | 14:16 |
| markwash | having just gotten up, I hadn't yet seen the comments on the second patch | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | no artifact == data + metadata | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | An artifact is a (data, description) association in which the description has a well-defined discoverable type and the data is immutable once the artifact is made available. | 14:17 |
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| rosmaita | TravT: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tOTsIytVWtXGUaT2Ia4V5PWq4CiTfZPDn6rpRm5In7U/edit?pli=1 | 14:18 |
| TravT | rosmaita: have you seen any of our discussion related to Graffiti? at the summit, multiple people asked us to propose a metadata catalog become available from Glance as well. | 14:18 |
| markwash | TravT we probably need to slightly refine our terminology around the glance artifact and the graffiti metadata catalog | 14:19 |
| markwash | because the graffiti stuff does not really fit into the glance catalog, rather it is a worthy addition on the side of it | 14:19 |
| ewindisch_ | my concern with the current proposals for the artifacts, as I understand them, is that it still doesn’t address - say - Nova being able to access artifacts that live outside of the Image program | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | TravT: i see grafitti as tagging artifacts + instances + workloads, etc | 14:20 |
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| TravT | rosmaita: yes it is for tagging the various things, but a key component of it having a catalog of available metadata. Much of it very relevant to images and artifacts. | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | ewindisch_: the artifacts will be stored in glance, nova can get them using glance api as it does currently for images | 14:20 |
| markwash | ewindisch_: I think artifacts would like to expand to be able to serve anything that Nova could use (i.e. including stuff like aufs images. . | 14:21 |
| markwash | ewindisch_: but I don't think we're proposing that Nova *only* be able to talk to glance | 14:21 |
| lakshmiS | rosmaita: That sounds good about the idea of graffiti tagging the artifacts too... | 14:21 |
| ewindisch_ | markwash: but that’s the only way to “be core” and the only thing that passes the refstack tests | 14:21 |
| TravT | with a catalog available, we can then make it available from horizon. | 14:22 |
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| markwash | ewindisch_: interesting | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | TravT: i think the grafitti catalog would be a different level of abstraction | 14:22 |
| markwash | TravT: its just going to make it harder for us if we call the graffiti metadata index a catalog as well :-) | 14:22 |
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| arnaud__ | ewindisch_, a full project doesn't need to be core afaik, nova will not be core completely | 14:22 |
| arnaud__ | it can be the same for glance | 14:23 |
| markwash | anyway we should pick different terms at some point | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | +1 on good & different terms! | 14:23 |
| TravT | markwash: different terms are okay with me. | 14:24 |
| TravT | but are you still okay with it being proposed as part of the program? | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | TravT: not clear on what you're asking? | 14:25 |
| markwash | TravT: to me, it would fit in as a helper component to using the artifacts repository | 14:25 |
| markwash | TravT: and the fact that it helps with metadata elsewhere in the cloud is just gravy | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | TravT: i see artifacts metadata as developer-oriented, while grafitti tags are user-oriented (at the horizon level) | 14:26 |
| msundara | the metadata drives behavior so it is sort of developer-oriented too. | 14:26 |
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| markwash | msundara: yes, but also the goal with artifact type schemas is to move as much behavior-affecting attributes *out* of metadata | 14:27 |
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| markwash | excuse me: "out of *user-metadata*" | 14:28 |
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| msundara | markwash: yes, we talked about that last time and graffiti is only for data taht is outside the syntax of the original resource. | 14:28 |
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| markwash | okay this kinda morphed into a graffiti discussion | 14:28 |
| TravT | yes, we can have separate discussion. | 14:29 |
| markwash | but I think maybe we should move on. . I appreciate all the feedback here and in the reviews for the mission changes and will update them this morning | 14:29 |
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| markwash | today we have jokke_ here so let's hit his questions :-) | 14:30 |
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| jokke_ | :) | 14:30 |
| markwash | #topic testing approaches (jokke_) | 14:30 |
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| markwash | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/fake-keystone-for-testing | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | so, the noauth clearly is causing some grey hair in our testing | 14:30 |
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| markwash | I see you linked in a pretty gross sounding bug as well | 14:31 |
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| markwash | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1308413 | 14:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1308413 in ossa "Missing x-tenant-id header to registry will return list of all images while using v2 api with registry" [Undecided,Won't fix] | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | I was planning to build a small fake keystone that would do just "token verification" and "pass auth" so we would get keystone like behaviour for the functional tests | 14:32 |
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| markwash | so my only concern is the amount of slowness around functional tests | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | markwash: the problem there is that as decided the v2 does not pass the tenant ID to registry anymore like v1 did | 14:33 |
| markwash | I agree it seems we've missed some coverage and we need to take some action to fix that | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | which broke pretty much all functional tests when trying to extend them to be used with registry | 14:33 |
| markwash | oh wow | 14:33 |
| markwash | jokke_: so the thing that is important to me is that the we kinda follow the pyramid approach | 14:34 |
| markwash | a huge base of unit tests to get most of the coverage | 14:34 |
| markwash | a medium set of integration tests that are still pretty fast | 14:34 |
| markwash | and then a smaller sliver of slow functional tests that ensure everything isn't secretly broken when you string it together | 14:35 |
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| markwash | it sounds to me like we could have caught this just by adding real keystone testing to the functional level (with registry db turned on) | 14:35 |
| markwash | does that sound accurate? | 14:35 |
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| jokke_ | markwash: I do understand and like that approach | 14:35 |
| markwash | well real -> less fake than noauth | 14:35 |
| jokke_ | My biggest concern is that we support only keystone auth, but those bits are not really tested anywhere | 14:36 |
| markwash | jokke_: I would be pretty happy with your fake keystone approach if it wasn't really expanding the granularity of coverage at the functional level | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | and I do not like the approach either that we would monkeypatch the code we are testing to do something else what it's doing in production | 14:36 |
| arnaud__ | jokke_, what about tempest? did you try? with v2/registry? | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | arnaud__: to be honest, I haven't got that far yet. I have had full time job trying to get my head around glance so far ;) | 14:37 |
| arnaud__ | ok, no worries :) | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | markwash: also a point here. If we want to make keystone a default auth in glance config, that would not work if we do not have "keystone" available during the testing | 14:39 |
| markwash | jokke_: so how about it, we can add a fake keystone test component to the functional level to do better than noauth, but not really change the granularity of the functional tests (or interfere with the goal of making those functional tests a bit coarser actually) | 14:39 |
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| jokke_ | markwash: I'm perfectly fine with that, actually quite fond of it | 14:39 |
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| markwash | okay cool | 14:40 |
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| markwash | jokke_: it sounds like you might also want to add a run of the tests that configures the system to use the registrydb for v2 | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | markwash: My plan was not increase testing too much on fnctional level, but rather just make the tests reflect more real life | 14:40 |
| markwash | well, this makes sense to me then. . . other thoughts or should we move on to your question about log levels? | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | I just stumbled upon that fact when I tried to run the existing tests against the configuration where I enabled registry instead of sqlalchemy | 14:41 |
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| jokke_ | the registry gets spun up currently, but nothing actually touches it | 14:42 |
| markwash | gotcha | 14:42 |
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| markwash | #topic debug log levels that should be info | 14:43 |
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| markwash | jokke_: to make a long story short, I bet folks will be happy with the log changes you're proposing | 14:44 |
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| markwash | :-) | 14:44 |
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| jokke_ | Yes, so while looking a bug filed agaist our stores and how they rise InvalidStoreUri exception and trying to find my way around translations with exceptions and debug logging I noticed that most of those messages should be logged higher level. Is there a reason why we are logging pretty much everything on debug? | 14:45 |
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| markwash | we at one time had way too much stuff at a higher level, like logging 400s as warnings | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | I think this was raised from the ops side as well as complaint that they effectively need to run their openstacks on debug as they will get next to nothing otherwise, which is not nice | 14:46 |
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| markwash | but I don't think we've done a recent audit of our log stuff (at least not that I remember / or am aware of) | 14:46 |
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| jokke_ | ok ... so from one far end to another :) | 14:46 |
| markwash | jokke_: so i think the message here is "fire at will" with any improvements to bring us more in line with the logging standards | 14:47 |
| markwash | and for everybody, probably it is good to review the following link just to keep log levels in mind | 14:47 |
| markwash | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LoggingStandards | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | IMHO we should log our exceptions either on info or like the invalid store uris on warn ... after all that's something that really affects how the configuration behaves | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | markwash: ok ... I look into those lines where I walked on to mine and start looking those bit deeper when I have time for it | 14:48 |
| markwash | it depends on the exception I guess | 14:48 |
| markwash | some exceptions are just part of the regular code path, so unfortunately there is not a clear way to distinguish other than just the semantics of the given function | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | markwash: I agree, but if we cannot access store because there is typo in uri, that shouldn't need debugging before that gets told to ops ;P | 14:49 |
| markwash | +1 | 14:49 |
| markwash | :-) | 14:49 |
| markwash | okay lets talk catalog | 14:49 |
| markwash | #topic catalog status | 14:49 |
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| markwash | gokrokve: ativelkov: got some updates for us? | 14:50 |
| gokrokve | Hi | 14:50 |
| gokrokve | Alex is here so he can do status update. | 14:50 |
| ativelkov | hi | 14:50 |
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| ativelkov | I am going to submit the catalog specs to glance-specs in the nearest days | 14:51 |
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| ativelkov | Got the first draft of common metadata definition and the API | 14:51 |
| ativelkov | will finalize and submit to gerrit soon | 14:51 |
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| ativelkov | This will include only the first batch of features - the ones which we agreed to implmenet in J | 14:52 |
| gokrokve | Yes. Once we have specs I will join review & development process too :-) | 14:52 |
| markwash | ativelkov: great, thanks! we will be on the lookout for it in glance-specs | 14:52 |
| ativelkov | More advanced stuff (dynamic references etc) will be left for future | 14:53 |
| gokrokve | Randall also wanted to join the development. | 14:53 |
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| arnaud__ | (btw, glance-specs review link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/glance-specs,n,z) | 14:53 |
| markwash | btw reminder everybody: glance-specs is live and is now the entry point for new feature proposals | 14:53 |
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| markwash | okay, just a few minutes to catch the late entry to our agenda | 14:54 |
| markwash | #topic swift multi-container work | 14:54 |
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| markwash | this is something iccha and sri were working on but since Trove stole iccha away from us. . . | 14:54 |
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| markwash | rosmaita: is this your item? | 14:54 |
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| rosmaita | thought we discussed last week? | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | we agreed that we need to get glance.store done first | 14:55 |
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| rosmaita | (i think) | 14:55 |
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| markwash | ah perhaps it was someone elses item | 14:55 |
| nikhil__ | markwash: ah it's mine | 14:56 |
| nikhil__ | markwash: just wanted to quickly confirm who all are interested in that MP | 14:56 |
| markwash | nikhil__: okay cool, last week we said what rosmaita said | 14:56 |
| nikhil__ | am trying to get the ncessary changes in soon-ish to get it tested functionally in a dev environment with a live swift install | 14:57 |
| markwash | great | 14:57 |
| nikhil__ | have some comments posted and if all interested parties can jump in to resolve the questions either way, it would help a ton! | 14:57 |
| markwash | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34801/ | 14:58 |
| markwash | all right, few minutes of open discussion | 14:58 |
| markwash | #topic open discussion | 14:58 |
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| ashwini | mid cycle meetup | 14:58 |
| markwash | everybody shout at once! | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | One more thing regarding last week, I updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Bug_Tags could someone who has access to it update the official tags? | 14:58 |
| ashwini | july 28- aug 1, | 14:58 |
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| ashwini | location - VmWare office, CA | 14:59 |
| ashwini | done deal? | 14:59 |
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| arnaud__ | I want to make sure we know how many people | 14:59 |
| arnaud__ | can make it | 14:59 |
| markwash | sounds good to me, I may have to leave a little early on august 1 in order to pick up someone from the airport | 14:59 |
| arnaud__ | to CA | 14:59 |
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| ashwini | arnaud__: all of rackspace team will | 15:00 |
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| markwash | okay, we're out of time! we need to make way | 15:00 |
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| nikhil__ | ashwini: we have 2 more joining, so arnaud__ knows the updated count | 15:00 |
| markwash | thanks everyone | 15:00 |
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| arnaud__ | thanks | 15:00 |
| markwash | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 5 15:00:38 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-06-05-14.05.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-06-05-14.05.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-06-05-14.05.log.html | 15:00 |
| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 5 15:00:57 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | hello everyone | 15:01 |
| vponomaryov | hi | 15:01 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, GM | 15:01 |
| xyang1 | hi | 15:01 |
| scottda | Hi | 15:01 |
| rraja | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | I actually didn't update the agenda today | 15:02 |
| bswartz | looks like nobody added anything so I'll just make up the topics as I go | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | #topic incubation readiness | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | yesterday we did a a review of the requirements to be an incubated project and the good news is that we meet nearly all of them | 15:03 |
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| xyang1 | great! | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | nearly? | 15:03 |
| bswartz | however there was one item on the list that we're missing | 15:03 |
| deepakcs | nice | 15:04 |
| bswartz | I wish I could find the doc -- but there is a requirement that we have API docs which are generated from the code | 15:04 |
| bswartz | do we have esker here? | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/incubation-integration-requirements.rst | 15:05 |
| bswartz | I think this is the one | 15:06 |
| bswartz | * Project should have API documentation for devs who want to add to the API, updated when the code is updated | 15:06 |
| bswartz | okay so the wording of the requirement is that the update should happen at the same time | 15:06 |
| bswartz | I think realisticly it's impossible to meet that goal if the API docs are not autogenerated in some way | 15:07 |
| ameade | im here now >.< | 15:07 |
| bswartz | ameade: welcome | 15:07 |
| xyang1 | Is there a command that you run to generate the API doc? | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | we don't have the docs autogenerated currently | 15:08 |
| bswartz | I think other projects do | 15:08 |
| bswartz | although I'm not sure what the mechanism is | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | I would like to find out and duplicate it | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | that's the only requirement in the list that we're missing completely, in my opinion | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | there are some other requirements where I think we may be meeting the letter of the requirement but not the spirit | 15:10 |
| bswartz | such as this one: | 15:10 |
| xyang1 | Cinder API doc only lists basic APIs. It misses a lot of new API's. I don't know how the doc generation work either | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | * Project must have a basic devstack-gate job set up | 15:10 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: we already met this | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: which one | 15:11 |
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| vponomaryov | we have two jobs in CI | 15:11 |
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| vponomaryov | that matches that requirement | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | yes, we have gate jobs, but some of the non-voting ones fail every time | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | its temporary | 15:12 |
| bswartz | I think the TC may hold that against us | 15:12 |
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| vponomaryov | votable is requirement? | 15:12 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: is there anything we can do to fix it? | 15:12 |
| bswartz | I think that a non-voting gate test that always fails just looks bad for us | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | +1 this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97747/ | 15:12 |
| ewindisch_ | o/ | 15:12 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: who said always fail? | 15:13 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: done! | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: okay I see some changes where it's not failing | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | I suppose I was wrong -- I saw several cases where it failed and it was nonvoting | 15:14 |
| xyang1 | gate-manila-tempest-dsvm-neutron-multibackend FAILURE in 12s (non-voting) | 15:14 |
| xyang1 | the non-voting ones fail all the time | 15:15 |
| bswartz | so my next question is: can we make the tempest test voting and make it pass reliably? | 15:15 |
| bswartz | xyang1: well not all the time | 15:15 |
| bswartz | they fail a lot but I see cases where they pass | 15:15 |
| xyang1 | ok | 15:15 |
| bswartz | it seems to be something outside of our control | 15:15 |
| bswartz | so we need to get it under our control and fix it | 15:15 |
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| vponomaryov | we need just this to be merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97747/ | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | ^ everyone review that change and +1 it please!! ^ | 15:16 |
| bswartz | okay well it makes me feel better to know this is easily solved | 15:16 |
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| vponomaryov | but is there a requiremnt for votable job? | 15:17 |
| bswartz | so the only other requirement where work is needed are the ones about the core team and the diversity of the contributors | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: no, you saw the requirement, but I feel the spirit is that the gate job actually has to do functional testing otherwise it's not a good gate test | 15:18 |
| bswartz | I don't want the TC to hold up the process because of different interpretations of that requriement | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | so let's get our gate tests in the best shape we can | 15:19 |
| bswartz | even if it takes a few weeks -- we don't have a date yet | 15:19 |
| bswartz | but by the time we get reviewed, I would like the test to be voting and reliably passing | 15:19 |
| bswartz | even if that means we need to hack on the tests a lot | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: there are normal situation with recheck | 15:20 |
| bswartz | but back to the last requirement | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | I mean there no jobs that works in 100% cases | 15:20 |
| bswartz | this group is getting bigger and we're seeing more contributions and reviews every day | 15:20 |
| bswartz | which is great | 15:20 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: contributers, but not reviewers | 15:21 |
| bswartz | I think we need to develop a process for adding new core team members for those that do significant reviews | 15:21 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: I know -- more reviewers is key | 15:21 |
| bswartz | we have a core team of a few people, which meets the requirement, but bigger would be better I feel | 15:22 |
| bswartz | so if there are folks out there that aspire to be core members of this team, please put a lot of time into code reviews | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | when we see a lot of reviews happening we will add people to the core | 15:22 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, I am new to Manila (just starting off) and my 2 cents are : We should have a good working devpt setup for Manila, i am stuck on devstack+manila setup :( | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | deepakcs: so we have docs on this subject | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | have you read them? | 15:23 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, I plan to contribute to devstack setup doc, once I am unblocked. | 15:23 |
| nileshb | deepakcs .. same here | 15:23 |
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| deepakcs | bswartz, If you are pointing to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/docs/Manila_Developer_Setup_Fedora19 | 15:23 |
| bswartz | I definitely want to help you deepakcs, nileshb | 15:23 |
| vponomaryov | deepakcs, nileshb: poke me in manila chat after this meeting | 15:23 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, i tried that couple of time, doesn't work | 15:23 |
| deepakcs | vponomaryov, sure :) | 15:24 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, The point i was trying to make is that, if we have a working devpt setup documented, it will reduce entry barrier for others | 15:24 |
| bswartz | deepakcs: On F19 you're using packstack not devstack, correct? | 15:24 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, and that would add more contributors and reviewers :) | 15:24 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, I am on F20 using devstack | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | but devstack is just a wrapper around packstack on Fedora, if I'm not mistaken | 15:25 |
| nileshb | mainly .. we are having issues with Manila networking .. | 15:25 |
| vponomaryov | deepakcs: devstack tested on ubuntu 12 | 15:25 |
| deepakcs | vponomaryov, ok next iwill use ubuntu, I favoured fedora since devstack worked nicely for me in my cinder contribs | 15:25 |
| bswartz | Supporting Manila on Fedora and CentOS are high on my priority list | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | I think most of us use Ubuntu | 15:25 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, vponomaryov frankly, the current issue is my nova VMs are just stuck at spawning.. and i don't think its a Manila issue | 15:26 |
| bswartz | but we have several redhat folks -- it would be nice if we could make it run better on redhat-based distros | 15:26 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, vponomaryov and i have asked for help in lists and IRCs, nothing much yet.. and i am debugging it :) | 15:26 |
| bswartz | I think we also have a SuSE guy | 15:26 |
| bswartz | dunno if he's here | 15:26 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, maybe latest devstack on f20 is broken, will try ubuntu next | 15:27 |
| deepakcs | nileshb, even before u can get to Manial networking were u able to get a nova VM running on latest f20 + devstack combo ? | 15:27 |
| bswartz | deepakcs: did you use the [Manila] tag on the ML? | 15:27 |
| bswartz | or was your question specific to nova? | 15:27 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, No, as it was nova specific | 15:28 |
| bswartz | oh okay | 15:28 |
| bswartz | well please make noise if you're blocked getting manila up and running | 15:28 |
| bswartz | we might not be able to help but we want to if we can | 15:28 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, I was able to up Manila services using devstack+f20, but unable to do mcuh useful as Nova is acting werid | 15:28 |
| deepakcs | *weird | 15:28 |
| bswartz | okay so that was a bit of a tangent | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | anything else on the topic of incubation requirements? | 15:29 |
| bswartz | #topic dev status | 15:29 |
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| vponomaryov | Dev status: | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | 1) Force-delete admin action (API) | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | bp: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/manila-client-enhancements | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | client: #link https://review.openstack.org/97432 | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | server: #link https://review.openstack.org/97480 | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | status: waiting for review | 15:30 |
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| vponomaryov | 2) Share server backend details | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | bp: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/implement-backend-details-in-drivers | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | generic: #link https://review.openstack.org/97263 | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | cmode: #link https://review.openstack.org/98069 | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | status: work in progress | 15:30 |
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| vponomaryov | 3) Sync common code from oslo | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | bp: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/update-oslo-code | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | server: #link https://review.openstack.org/97767 | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | client: #link https://review.openstack.org/98088 | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | status: waiting for review | 15:30 |
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| vponomaryov | 4) Common improvements: | 15:31 |
| vponomaryov | client: | 15:31 |
| vponomaryov | #link https://review.openstack.org/97493 | 15:31 |
| vponomaryov | #link https://review.openstack.org/98061 | 15:31 |
| vponomaryov | server: | 15:31 |
| vponomaryov | #link https://review.openstack.org/97895 | 15:31 |
| vponomaryov | #link https://review.openstack.org/97471 | 15:31 |
| vponomaryov | #link https://review.openstack.org/98051 | 15:31 |
| vponomaryov | #link https://review.openstack.org/98107 | 15:31 |
| vponomaryov | that's all for dev status | 15:31 |
| bswartz | wow | 15:31 |
| bswartz | that's a lot of stuff waiting for review | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | as always please help out with reviews | 15:32 |
| * bswartz is directing that comment at himself too | 15:32 | |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: at least those ones that have +2 already | 15:32 |
| bswartz | anyone have questions on this stuff? | 15:33 |
| * deepakcs yet to start reviewing stuff... stuck w/ devpt setup :( hope it gets resolved soon | 15:34 | |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:34 |
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| bswartz | okay so can anyone confirm that devstack wraps around packstack on Fedora? | 15:34 |
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| bswartz | I know that's the case on RHEL | 15:35 |
| bswartz | and packstack is pretty awesome from what I hear | 15:35 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, i don't think so, but not 100% sure | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | rushil, ameade, lgreg_1: any of you setup devstack and/or packstack on RHEL or Fedora before? | 15:36 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, qucik google search says it doesnt use packstack | 15:36 |
| deepakcs | readhat RDO uses packstack | 15:36 |
| deepakcs | and hence all redhat distros will use packstack by default | 15:36 |
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| bswartz | I'd like to get to the bottom of that and find out where the gap is | 15:36 |
| ameade | bswartz: mm prolly a long time ago...so i'm no help | 15:36 |
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| deepakcs | bswartz, devstack checks out git repos and start AIO using that. packstack on the other hand IIRC uses rpms | 15:37 |
| rraja | bswartz: csaba and I plan to put up a pretty detailed technical draft on how we plan to implement the gateway mediated ganesha driver by next week so that other folks can help us. | 15:37 |
| bswartz | rraja: that's awesome | 15:37 |
| bswartz | rraja: you run on redhat don't you? | 15:38 |
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| rraja | bswartz: I use F20. | 15:38 |
| bswartz | rraja: do you have any idea what we need to do to make it easier for new people to get manila running on fedora? | 15:38 |
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| rraja | bswartz: i'll update the dev document link that deepakcs posted and also add the same for ubuntu | 15:39 |
| bswartz | rraja: it would be great if you could help out deepakcs | 15:39 |
| bswartz | okay great | 15:39 |
| bswartz | anything else from anybody? | 15:39 |
| nileshb | yeah .. any document to understand the whole process end-to-end would be of great help | 15:39 |
| bswartz | nileshb: you've seen the existing wiki docs right? | 15:40 |
| bswartz | nileshb: what do you feel is missing? | 15:40 |
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| ewindisch_ | bswartz: I’m looking at moving the nova volume mounting code into a library — and I’m wondering how much that might intersect with Manilla’s interests (it has an NFS driver, for instance). | 15:40 |
| bswartz | ewindisch_: are you coordinating with the cinder folks on that? | 15:41 |
| nileshb | I referred https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/docs/Manila_Developer_Setup_Fedora19 | 15:41 |
| bswartz | ewindisch_: that sounds like brick tbh | 15:41 |
| ewindisch_ | bswartz: yes | 15:41 |
| rraja | nileshb: the link is pretty outdated - lagging behind by a few months. | 15:41 |
| ewindisch_ | bswartz: and yes, it’s related, although jgriffith wasn’t too sure what the status of brick is. | 15:42 |
| bswartz | ewindisch_: so cinder has a very different use case than manila -- but there are many cases where they interract | 15:42 |
| nileshb | any latest one? | 15:42 |
| bswartz | I gave a talk about that in Atlanta | 15:42 |
| ewindisch_ | bswartz: anyway, I presume there is overlap with manilla here | 15:42 |
| bswartz | ewindisch_: if I had to guess I would say probably not | 15:42 |
| bswartz | ewindisch_: nova is going to act as an NFS client and Manila is all about NFS servers | 15:43 |
| bswartz | so there's no overlap | 15:43 |
| bswartz | but maybe I'm wrong | 15:43 |
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| ewindisch_ | bswartz: I was referring to the client-side, but anwyay we can offline it. Just stating my interest. | 15:43 |
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| bswartz | okay so by next week let's hope for some updates to our docs to help newbies get started faster | 15:44 |
| bswartz | and anyone who's having trouble, please reach out in the channel and we'll find solutions | 15:44 |
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| bswartz | any last things? | 15:44 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, lets hope so :) i already checked with rraja and csaba, i think it worked for them in the past, i am using latest devsatck and seems it has issues | 15:44 |
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| bswartz | alright thanks all | 15:45 |
| deepakcs | thanks bswartz | 15:45 |
| vponomaryov | thanks | 15:45 |
| xyang1 | thanks | 15:45 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:45 |
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| scottda | bye | 15:45 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 5 15:45:44 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-06-05-15.00.html | 15:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-06-05-15.00.txt | 15:45 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-06-05-15.00.log.html | 15:45 |
| ameade | lunch time! | 15:45 |
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| vkozhukalov | a lot of people are around | 15:57 |
| mihgen | vkozhukalov: hi | 15:57 |
| mihgen | vkozhukalov: do you guys expect power outage in moscow office ? | 15:58 |
| evgeniyl | Hi. | 15:58 |
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| meow-nofer__ | hi | 15:58 |
| vkozhukalov | i am home, as far as i know everyone is aware of it | 15:58 |
| vkozhukalov | of power outage i mean | 15:59 |
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| vkozhukalov | so everyone who wanted to take part in meeting is home i think | 15:59 |
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| vkozhukalov | ok now we are ready to start | 16:00 |
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| mihgen | vkozhukalov: let's do it :) | 16:00 |
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| vkozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 5 16:00:44 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vkozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:00 |
| agordeev | o/ | 16:00 |
| vkozhukalov | greeting everyone | 16:00 |
| mihgen | hi folks | 16:01 |
| vkozhukalov | who is here? | 16:01 |
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| vkozhukalov | and as always here is agenda | 16:01 |
| mihgen | I hear xarses, but don't see him here | 16:01 |
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| vkozhukalov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:01 |
| mihgen | let me ping him) | 16:01 |
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| vkozhukalov | are we actually ready? if yes topic is | 16:02 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic current initiatives in Fuel team | 16:02 |
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| mihgen | ok let me debrief on it | 16:02 |
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| mihgen | after 5.0 release, we are working on multiple things now | 16:02 |
| vkozhukalov | we are letting -) | 16:02 |
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| mihgen | the first priority is actually to nail down remaining issues, angdraug is responsible for it, will let him speak later | 16:03 |
| mihgen | remaining issues for 4.1.1 | 16:03 |
| mihgen | it's based on havana, and users need a stable release with fixed HA and many more other bug fixes | 16:03 |
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| mihgen | from other initiatives, the largest part of Fuel is working on 5.1 design. | 16:04 |
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| mihgen | small group on enabling upgrades for 5.0 -> 5.0.1, evgeniyl is the lead | 16:04 |
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| mihgen | Folks, I'm in a big worry for bugs in master, let me send couple of links | 16:05 |
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| mihgen | #link http://goo.gl/RE6fbm | 16:05 |
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| mihgen | this is high and critical bugs for 5.1 | 16:05 |
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| aglarendil | mihgen: we have planned bug squashing tomorrow | 16:06 |
| mihgen | 105 of them, and #link goo.gl/qPK4XY 306 in total.. | 16:06 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: ok, good to hear that | 16:06 |
| mihgen | I was about to propose bug squashing day on Monday or some other day next week | 16:06 |
| vkozhukalov | #chair vkozhukalov | 16:07 |
| openstack | Current chairs: vkozhukalov | 16:07 |
| aglarendil | we are gonna do this for an hour and do at least some bug sorting | 16:07 |
| vkozhukalov | fogot -) | 16:07 |
| mihgen | should you first go with the folks triaging first and then decide on whether we need squashing or not | 16:07 |
| aglarendil | let's consider it as triaging & squashing | 16:07 |
| mihgen | Ok. The only assigned to bugs is angdraug now as far as I know, after he finishes 4.1.1 activities | 16:08 |
| mihgen | (in fuel-library) do we have anyone else to start working on it? | 16:08 |
| mihgen | fixing bugs I mena | 16:08 |
| aglarendil | let's triage them today and understand which resources we need | 16:09 |
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| aglarendil | *tomorrow | 16:09 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: ok. sounds good. will wait an update on it. Don't forget to mark bugs as low-hanging-fruit, we may have someone helping out | 16:09 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: Firday is today in CA ;) | 16:10 |
| aglarendil | :) you don't say) | 16:10 |
| mihgen | do we have any other more or less large activities besides? | 16:10 |
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| aglarendil | let's look into agenda, I guess | 16:11 |
| mihgen | vkozhukalov: I'm ready for switching into more detailed discussion | 16:11 |
| mihgen | on design and etc. | 16:11 |
| vkozhukalov | ok | 16:11 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic Design for 5.1 | 16:12 |
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| vkozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:stackforge/fuel-specs,n,z | 16:12 |
| mihgen | I don't see too many specs there.... | 16:12 |
| vkozhukalov | here is a link to specs for 5.1 | 16:12 |
| vkozhukalov | design week is almost over and only 4 specs are on review | 16:12 |
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| vkozhukalov | ok, let's move one by one and discuss what we need to add | 16:13 |
| aglarendil | vkozhukalov: mihgen: we need to convert a lot of stuff into rst format and some stuff still needs polishing | 16:13 |
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| aglarendil | mihgen: it will take some time for specs to be completed. | 16:13 |
| mihgen | let's start proposing changes | 16:13 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic image based provisioning | 16:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "image based provisioning (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:13 | |
| mihgen | if it doesn't pass CI | 16:13 |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95575/ | 16:13 |
| mihgen | even* if doesn't pass CI | 16:14 |
| vkozhukalov | there are four people who plused this spec | 16:14 |
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| vkozhukalov | frankly we already started to work on implementation | 16:14 |
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| mihgen | vkozhukalov: nice. we need +2th there too. I don't see anyone from QA there .. | 16:14 |
| mihgen | angdraug: aglarendil we need to take a look there | 16:15 |
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| vkozhukalov | if it looks ok, i ask nurla set her plus | 16:15 |
| mihgen | vkozhukalov: yep, please | 16:15 |
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| aglarendil | mihgen: yep, we will do spec reviewing for this feature | 16:15 |
| vkozhukalov | next one is | 16:15 |
| angdraug | aye | 16:15 |
| vkozhukalov | #link docker building improvements | 16:15 |
| vkozhukalov | it is about speeding up docker building process | 16:16 |
| mihgen | mattymo: do we have any progress here? | 16:16 |
| vkozhukalov | mattymo: do you have any comments& | 16:16 |
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| vkozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97204/ | 16:16 |
| vkozhukalov | mattymo: around? | 16:17 |
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| mihgen | looks like nope.. | 16:17 |
| mihgen | let's move on | 16:17 |
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| vkozhukalov | ok, as far as i remember his suggestion is to try to use amazon service for speeding up building docker images | 16:17 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: | 16:18 |
| aglarendil | I can provide some update | 16:18 |
| mihgen | wow amazon service?? | 16:18 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: please go ahead | 16:18 |
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| vkozhukalov | mihgen: or amazon tool | 16:18 |
| aglarendil | research of docker registry showed that it saves only 45 seconds | 16:18 |
| angdraug | no mention of amazon in the spec | 16:18 |
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| aglarendil | mihgen: in comparison with consequent loading | 16:19 |
| vkozhukalov | angdraug: maybe i am wrong | 16:19 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: did we identify where is the bottleneck? | 16:19 |
| aglarendil | so we are looking only towards shrinking the base image for docker centos | 16:19 |
| mihgen | ok. wondering if new kernel can help a lot.. | 16:19 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: we thought it was in the consequent loading of images | 16:19 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: looks like no. also, mattymo crashed his machine several times | 16:20 |
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| aglarendil | mihgen: so I am not sure we can use docker registry | 16:20 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: thus we are thinking of making docker base image as thin as possible | 16:20 |
| mihgen | interesting.. | 16:20 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: and thus save more than 45 seconds on unpacking | 16:20 |
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| mihgen | ok. how much then? 60 sec ?) | 16:20 |
| xarses | mihgen: mattmo was saying that the new kernel should help performance | 16:21 |
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| aglarendil | we need to resarch this | 16:21 |
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| aglarendil | actually it is only a big deal for virtual environments | 16:21 |
| vkozhukalov | ok, as far as nobody has enough detailed view my suggestion is to move on | 16:21 |
| aglarendil | modern hardware servers unpack our docker archive easily | 16:21 |
| mihgen | ok. where is the bottleneck again? | 16:21 |
| mihgen | cpu, disk io? | 16:22 |
| aglarendil | obviously, it is cpu in case of virtual env. | 16:22 |
| aglarendil | the bigger the image is | 16:22 |
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| mihgen | vkozhukalov: yep.. .let's move on and ask mattymo later, we really need to fix it to speed up dev process | 16:22 |
| aglarendil | the slower the unpacking on venvs | 16:22 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: ok, I see | 16:22 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic access control on master node | 16:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "access control on master node (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:22 | |
| aglarendil | I do not see salmon here | 16:23 |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96429/ | 16:23 |
| aglarendil | let's poke him | 16:23 |
| vkozhukalov | i saw him several minutes ago | 16:23 |
| vkozhukalov | in fuel-dev channel | 16:23 |
| salmon_ | i'm here | 16:23 |
| vkozhukalov | salmon_: any comments? | 16:23 |
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| salmon_ | so, I think blueprint is in good shape now. I got many comments from UI guy and from fuel-library guy | 16:24 |
| mihgen | salmon_: how that comes that you have security feature, and security impact is none in your spec?) | 16:24 |
| salmon_ | and also from QA | 16:24 |
| vkozhukalov | please if are you going to type a long message put ? sign first | 16:24 |
| mattymo | mihgen, sorry I should have left the office several minutes ago. Need to catch a flight | 16:24 |
| mihgen | salmon_: once I get a chance, I have a few important things to say too.. | 16:24 |
| salmon_ | vkozhukalov: ok | 16:25 |
| mattymo | mihgen, I have 3 items to report on improving docker progress quickly: | 16:25 |
| salmon_ | mihgen: yeah, I'm waiting for your comments | 16:25 |
| mattymo | 1 - using CentOS's new base minimal image reduces the base docker container size from 300mb to 98mb. | 16:25 |
| mattymo | 2 - I reduced the # of layers in the containers by combining many of the bash commands | 16:25 |
| mihgen | salmon_: not now. i'll do it in design doc or in ML. Thanks for working on this feature | 16:25 |
| mihgen | salmon_: can you provide a short status update on it? | 16:26 |
| mihgen | where wea re now with it ? | 16:26 |
| mattymo | 3 - docker registry is not speeding things up with docker-registry-0.6.6. The difference in load time is negligible. Fedora just built test packages for 0.7.1. I will test those next week. | 16:26 |
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| aglarendil | let's give a word to mattymo as he is writing on mobile, I guess | 16:26 |
| aglarendil | then switch back to authentication | 16:26 |
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| mattymo | I reduced build ISO time from 24m to 19m, 201mb all docker containers combined, and deploy time of just lrzuntar + docker load reduced from 13mins to 8mins | 16:27 |
| mattymo | we will get much better performance if we can get traction on Fuel Master on 3.10 kernel | 16:27 |
| vkozhukalov | aglarendil: he has a word | 16:27 |
| mattymo | ok I'm leaving. | 16:27 |
| mihgen | mattymo: sounds good | 16:27 |
| aglarendil | mattymo: awesome | 16:27 |
| mihgen | thanks dude. looks like kernel 3.10 is still in the picture | 16:27 |
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| mihgen | mattymo: did you test 3.10 on master? | 16:28 |
| angdraug | any thoughts about upgrading fuel master to ubuntu 14.04? | 16:28 |
| xarses | mattymo: so, a ubuntu master? | 16:28 |
| mihgen | angdraug: not now please | 16:29 |
| vkozhukalov | salmon_: are you going to give a short status on your spec or you are done? | 16:29 |
| mihgen | it's gonna kill us ;) | 16:29 |
| salmon_ | ? | 16:29 |
| salmon_ | all reported concerns are resolved now. I saw mail on ML from mihgen that he have some comments and I'm waiting for them. | 16:29 |
| mihgen | salmon_: did you start any implementation? | 16:30 |
| aglarendil | salmon_: I have a question on basic Nginx auth | 16:30 |
| mihgen | vkramskikh: are you aware of what salmon_ is working on, any help from UI team ? | 16:30 |
| vkramskikh | mihgen: there is working UI part: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97555/ | 16:30 |
| salmon_ | mihgen: no, but vkramskikh already have implementation for UI part | 16:30 |
| vkramskikh | it is not finished yet but it works | 16:30 |
| salmon_ | aglarendil: what question ? | 16:30 |
| mihgen | salmon_: actually my biggest thing I wonna say about it is that we basically have only 2 iterations in 5.1 | 16:31 |
| mihgen | so I want to see something simple first, and then we can extend | 16:31 |
| aglarendil | salmon_: I saw some details on it in spec. but it looks like we gonna completely implement authentication using keystone | 16:31 |
| aglarendil | salmon_: there is no nginx authentication for keystone, I guess | 16:31 |
| mihgen | if we start with complex, you won't be able to land code before FF | 16:31 |
| vkramskikh | there won't be any basic auth | 16:31 |
| salmon_ | mihgen: this is why we added Stages. Stage I is really simple | 16:31 |
| mihgen | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel/5.1_Release_Schedule this is proposed release schedule | 16:31 |
| aglarendil | vkramskikh: thx, that's what I wanted to clarify | 16:32 |
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| salmon_ | aglarendil: no nginx support, bassic auth is really really ugly | 16:32 |
| mihgen | salmon_: ok, I'll get back to you with more details in ML | 16:32 |
| vkozhukalov | salmon_: i agree | 16:32 |
| salmon_ | mihgen: cool | 16:32 |
| vkozhukalov | moving on | 16:32 |
| aglarendil | salmon_: ok, thx | 16:32 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic galera improvements | 16:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "galera improvements (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:33 | |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97191/ | 16:33 |
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| mihgen | vkramskikh: thanks, looking forward to see it live :) | 16:33 |
| vkozhukalov | holser around? | 16:33 |
| vkozhukalov | seems like nope | 16:33 |
| vkozhukalov | aglarendil: do you have any comments here? | 16:34 |
| aglarendil | holser was going to participate | 16:34 |
| aglarendil | gimme a minute | 16:34 |
| mihgen | vkozhukalov: let's move on and come back to it later | 16:34 |
| vkozhukalov | mihgen: ok | 16:34 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic Nailgun plugins | 16:35 |
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| vkozhukalov | that is a great topic | 16:35 |
| mihgen | that's hot topic | 16:35 |
| meow-nofer__ | =) | 16:35 |
| meow-nofer__ | by the way, we had a demo yesterday | 16:35 |
| vkozhukalov | looks like meow-nofer_ implemented a great POC | 16:35 |
| meow-nofer__ | everything almost works and is already on gerrit | 16:35 |
| vkozhukalov | yes we had demo, what about spec? | 16:36 |
| mihgen | we don't expect to have fully pluggable arch in 5.1, but I envision that we will have some pieces aleady in 5.1 | 16:36 |
| meow-nofer__ | just doesn't pass any tests because of old package versions | 16:36 |
| meow-nofer__ | vkozhukalov, I guess I'll write a spec tomorrow | 16:36 |
| mihgen | approach was here to start with POC, criticize it, and then create a spec | 16:36 |
| meow-nofer__ | at least, start doing it | 16:36 |
| vkozhukalov | meow-nofer_ great | 16:36 |
| mihgen | meow-nofer_: yep, cool | 16:36 |
| vkozhukalov | moving on? | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | blueprint/bug url for the topic? | 16:37 |
| mihgen | meow-nofer_: do you think we can land some pieces in master before FF | 16:37 |
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| meow-nofer__ | mihgen, maybe, these little hooks doesn't change any logic right now | 16:37 |
| mihgen | odyssey4me: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97827/ Nailgun Ceph plugin | 16:37 |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97827/ | 16:38 |
| mihgen | meow-nofer__: I think you should land it if possible | 16:38 |
| mihgen | it's gonna be impossible to review it otherwise later | 16:38 |
| vkozhukalov | i believe robot understands links only if they are on a separate line | 16:38 |
| mihgen | we need to go into the direction piece by piece.. | 16:38 |
| vkozhukalov | maybe i am wrong | 16:38 |
| mihgen | vkozhukalov: ok, let's check it after the meeting ) | 16:39 |
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| meow-nofer__ | mihgen, yeah, I know, I continue working on it | 16:39 |
| vkozhukalov | not too much time, moving on | 16:39 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic openstack patching and fuel upgrade design status | 16:39 |
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| mihgen | #link https://docs.google.com/a/mirantis.com/document/d/1H-CkqUQEVinFLxpnTSKyF265pD_HthBrLbpUUFRlgks/edit Fuel plugin framework design discussion | 16:40 |
| mihgen | this is overall direction where we would like to go with plugins. | 16:40 |
| mihgen | I'm not sure.. but I think we will need to convert it into RST as well | 16:40 |
| aglarendil | also, I wrote an email to ML today | 16:40 |
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| aglarendil | regarding how we gonna integrate OpenStack patching and FUEL Upgrade features | 16:40 |
| mihgen | vkozhukalov: sorry, switching to patching now :) | 16:41 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: I'll take a look.. anything urgent there? | 16:41 |
| vkozhukalov | mihgen already there | 16:41 |
| aglarendil | we gonna implement separate versioning for the product components and version the serializers | 16:41 |
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| odyssey4me | aglarendil - yeah, responded to that, but let's stick to topic now :) | 16:42 |
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| mihgen | aglarendil: will we be able to patch old env to new maintenance version of openstack? | 16:42 |
| aglarendil | puppet part of openstack patching is gonna be started by QA guys | 16:42 |
| evgeniyl | Yeah, we had several discussion about openstack patching, it looks more complicated, than we thought. | 16:42 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: yep, but we will need to use | 16:42 |
| mihgen | evgeniyl: hmm | 16:42 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: additional maintenance release of FUEL manifests with all the features ripped off | 16:43 |
| vkozhukalov | evgeniyl: any details? | 16:43 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: and only bugfixes and newer OpenStack in place | 16:43 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: ok. is it all in the email? | 16:43 |
| evgeniyl | mihgen: yes, we will be able to patch openstack from one minor version to another, without new features. | 16:43 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: not all of it. but it will be in the blueprint, obviously | 16:44 |
| mihgen | ok.. | 16:44 |
| evgeniyl | vkozhukalov: details are in email, the point is we need to have separate versions for nailgun/astute/etc and fuel-library. | 16:44 |
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| aglarendil | we will keep several fuel library manifests and snippets versions in docker container and rsync corresponding | 16:45 |
| vkozhukalov | evgeniyl: thx | 16:45 |
| evgeniyl | I can add details regarding to nailgun/upgrade script part of this feature. | 16:45 |
| aglarendil | ones to the slave nodes based on which fuel library version was used for this particular env | 16:45 |
| evgeniyl | We have several patches from Alexandr (nailgun) and Igor (upgrade script), they are almost ready and I think we will merge them soon, I almost finished after upgrade health checker | 16:45 |
| mihgen | I see odyssey4me was fast to reply on aglarendil's email .. I'll take a look too | 16:45 |
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| evgeniyl | Also we are waiting for make system from Dmitry P. to build tar ball with upgrade script, rpms, and manifests, when it’s ready we will be able to start integration. | 16:46 |
| mihgen | evgeniyl: ok. did dpyzhov give any estimations on that? | 16:46 |
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| mihgen | as I know he is gonna take short vacation.. wondering if it's gonna be ready before it. | 16:46 |
| evgeniyl | mihgen: he told that it should be easy and tomorrow we will have some working code. | 16:47 |
| mihgen | evgeniyl: ok, thanks | 16:47 |
| evgeniyl | mihgen: do we have other engineer who know how make system works? | 16:47 |
| vkozhukalov | mihgen: if not, we have plenty of people who wants to deal with make stuff | 16:47 |
| vkozhukalov | -) | 16:48 |
| evgeniyl | vkozhukalov: ok, cool) | 16:48 |
| mihgen | vkozhukalov: you are first candidate ;) | 16:48 |
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| vkozhukalov | moving on | 16:48 |
| mihgen | I still remember that day when you forced me to use make ) | 16:48 |
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| vkozhukalov | #topic some questions to @xarses on ml2 support if he is on the meeting | 16:48 |
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| xarses | here | 16:48 |
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| aglarendil | xarses: so, my question is whether you started working on this and what is your estimate to finish it | 16:49 |
| aglarendil | xarses: it intersects a little bit with merge-openstack-puppet-modules blueprint | 16:49 |
| aglarendil | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/merge-openstack-puppet-modules | 16:49 |
| xarses | I've looked it over, I wont fully start untill this afternoon. | 16:49 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: we have heard that ideally we need to consider linux bridges plugin | 16:50 |
| aglarendil | as it is already implemented in upstream manifests | 16:50 |
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| mihgen | not sure if we can do it in 5.1 | 16:50 |
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| aglarendil | mihgen: who was that ? | 16:50 |
| xarses | aglarendil: yes, it does, i need to spend some time to understand how ml2 is configured and how to adapt it to fuel, and then pull in upstream neutron module | 16:50 |
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| aglarendil | xarses: but we have huge modifications in neutron module | 16:50 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: one of the guys from fields ) | 16:50 |
| aglarendil | xarses: it would be awesome if you got a consensus with xenolog on the amount of merge | 16:51 |
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| aglarendil | xarses: we can afford for neutron module | 16:51 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: +1 on sync with xenolog | 16:51 |
| mihgen | please chat on daily basis folks... | 16:52 |
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| mihgen | xarses: any more info on this? | 16:52 |
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| aglarendil | anyway, ML2 implementation is feasible, I guess, but the best option is to use upstream modules | 16:52 |
| mihgen | we need to hear about 4.1.1 so I'm trying to speed up the meeting | 16:52 |
| vkozhukalov | ok | 16:53 |
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| xarses | mihgen: not yet, I haven't dived very far into it yet | 16:53 |
| mihgen | ok. thanks for update | 16:53 |
| aglarendil | btw, holser connected. | 16:53 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic 4.1.1 status from @angdraug | 16:53 |
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| vkozhukalov | angdraug: here? | 16:53 |
| angdraug | here | 16:53 |
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| angdraug | #1316210 is still not addressed | 16:54 |
| angdraug | we have new ceph packages for #1325765 | 16:54 |
| angdraug | anyone from OSCI around to comment on heartbleed fix for CentOS? | 16:54 |
| mihgen | that's crap | 16:55 |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1316210 | 16:55 |
| angdraug | fixes for #1300027 and #1283035 are not merged | 16:55 |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/4.1.x/+bug/1325765 | 16:55 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1325765 in fuel/4.1.x "Ceph v0.67.9 for 4.1.1" [High,In progress] | 16:55 |
| vkozhukalov | 5 minutes | 16:55 |
| angdraug | 3 new bugs were targeted for 4.1.1 this morning, I'll need to triage these, unless anyone speaks up I intend to push them to 4.1.2 | 16:56 |
| angdraug | #link https://launchpad.net/fuel/+milestone/4.1.1 | 16:56 |
| mihgen | Folks 4.1.1 is critical priority now | 16:57 |
| mihgen | we need just a little bit of resources to make RC for it | 16:57 |
| mihgen | let's concentrate and react quickly on it | 16:57 |
| angdraug | the most critical is heartbleed | 16:57 |
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| angdraug | it's something we can't do in US | 16:57 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: nurla: I need your help here in the first order | 16:57 |
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| mihgen | angdraug: I'll push folks to make it happen | 16:58 |
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| mihgen | thanks for status angdraug | 16:58 |
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| mihgen | vkozhukalov: anything left? | 16:59 |
| vkozhukalov | if anyone has suggestions about design | 16:59 |
| vkozhukalov | we have 30 seconds | 16:59 |
| xarses | asdfgfgeG!!!! | 16:59 |
| aglarendil | let's move to fuel-dev | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | not quite enough time for a design conversation :p | 16:59 |
| vkozhukalov | ok looks like we are closing | 17:00 |
| xarses | ^ lest implement it | 17:00 |
| vkozhukalov | #endmeeting Fuel | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-06-05-16.00.html | 17:00 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | sahara folks, ping | 18:00 |
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| dmitryme | o/ | 18:01 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | ok, topic fixed :) | 18:01 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting shara | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 5 18:01:38 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| sreshetnyak | o/ | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'shara' | 18:01 |
| tosky | SergeyLukjanov: shara? | 18:01 |
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| tmckay | here | 18:01 |
| ylobankov | hi | 18:01 |
| elmiko | yo | 18:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 18:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 5 18:02:00 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/shara/2014/shara.2014-06-05-18.01.html | 18:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/shara/2014/shara.2014-06-05-18.01.txt | 18:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/shara/2014/shara.2014-06-05-18.01.log.html | 18:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting sahara | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 5 18:02:10 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
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| skostiuchenko | hi | 18:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:02 |
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| tosky | better :) | 18:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | it's the first time I'm misspelled the meeting name ;) | 18:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | hey folks | 18:02 |
| tmckay | wow, I don't know if I can do two meetings in a row | 18:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 18:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, oh, man... | 18:03 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | traditionally, the first item is | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 18:03 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | folks, please | 18:03 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #info all patches for 2014.1.1 approved, but due to the gate issue isn't yet merged, so, release will be right after the changes merged | 18:04 |
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| tmckay | I started an investigation and discussion of spark EDP. I'll post a link to the pad ... | 18:04 |
| elmiko | i've been finishing up the disconnected hdp plugin patch, and investigating possible solutions to the Swift authentication issue. | 18:04 |
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| tmckay | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara_spark_edp | 18:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, thx | 18:05 |
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| tmckay | also, we found the "Fedora cluster won't start sometimes" and it has been fixed since the last meeting, I think | 18:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay is it already public? | 18:05 |
| tmckay | that's good, that was troubling | 18:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, I mean edp-spark | 18:06 |
| tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, oh, I think so. | 18:06 |
| tmckay | Should it not be? | 18:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, oh, yeah, I see you email | 18:06 |
| alazarev | I was busy with bug fixing, 10 CRs on review now | 18:06 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | I've just entered home, so, tons of unread emails | 18:06 |
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| * tmckay nods | 18:07 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info the juno-1 is next week | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | winter is coming :) | 18:07 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: winder? | 18:07 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | look that changes with sahara-dashboard are not getting reviewed | 18:07 |
| tmckay | oh, by the way, mattf sends his regrets, he is at Hadoop summit | 18:07 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: winter? | 18:07 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, it's from the game of throns | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, ok, thx for tip | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 18:08 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-05-29-18.01.html | 18:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | bah, there are 6 action items | 18:09 |
| elmiko | NikitaKonovalov: ack, i need to recheck the ones i've been watching | 18:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info aignatov is on vacations for this week, so, skeeping | 18:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #action aignatov create bp re moving/updating rest samples docs and do it | 18:10 |
| tmckay | I did the EDP wrapup, I don't think there were additional comments. More a restatement of areas to investigate | 18:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info DONE: aignatov and tmckay will do a wrapup via the EDP design session from Summit via openstack-dev | 18:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, thx, it looks very clear | 18:10 |
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| tmckay | also, I started notes on moving edp samples but I didn't create a new bp, waiting for the spec stuff | 18:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info DONE: SergeyLukjanov contact http://www.openstack.org/software/roadmap/ maintainers to update sahara-related things | 18:10 |
| tmckay | Should I create it anyway? | 18:11 |
| alazarev | tmckay: specs are addition to bps, not replacement | 18:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, yup, we could expereiment with spec post-factum | 18:11 |
| alazarev | *my understanding | 18:11 |
| tmckay | alazarev, okay, thanks, I'll create it then. So, "in progress" :) | 18:11 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: if i come up with some solid ideas for the Swift authentication issue should i start a bp to get the design going or is it better to have the discussion on the private bug report? | 18:12 |
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| tmckay | elmiko, how about a pad? | 18:12 |
| elmiko | tmckay: that works too | 18:12 |
| tmckay | bp is hard to have a discussion through | 18:12 |
| elmiko | well, i meant the new bp format | 18:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, let's create a semi-private etherpad linked to the bug | 18:12 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #action SergeyLukjanov to create bp with steps to enable heat be default | 18:12 |
| * SergeyLukjanov waiting for specs | 18:13 | |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: ok, i'm not quite ready to specify my idea but i'm close. maybe early next week. | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #action SergeyLukjanov to create bp about removing/hiding username@image for heat based provisioning | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #action tmckay to create bp re moving edp samples to sahara and make test jobs examples | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | okay, looks like it's all about action items | 18:13 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | oh, I forget to include j1 topic | 18:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Juno-1 | 18:14 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | so, the Juno-1 will be at the next week | 18:14 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | and m-p cut is June 10 | 18:14 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | == code freeze for j1 | 18:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, we should make all needed changes landed at Tue | 18:14 |
| dmitryme | elmiko: what Swift authentication issue you were talking about? Is it filed as a bug? | 18:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I don't think that we need an etherpad for CRs to include into the j1 | 18:15 |
| tmckay | dmitryme, private bug, I'll add you | 18:15 |
| elmiko | dmitryme: the issue about username/pass in the workflows. it's a private bug | 18:15 |
| dmitryme | tmckay, elmiko: thank you | 18:15 |
| tmckay | dmitryme, obvious to anyone using sahara for a while but why shout it? :) | 18:15 |
| alazarev | #link https://launchpad.net/sahara/+milestone/juno-1 | 18:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, yup | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, and some exp with lp private bugs | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | фre there any q. re j1? | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | are* | 18:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | okay, moving on | 18:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Pilot sahara-specs | 18:17 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/sahara-specs,n,z | 18:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | base stuff is on review | 18:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | good note from croberts re UI | 18:17 |
| elmiko | agreed, +1 | 18:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | folks, please, review this changes, especially template | 18:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and you could already start creating specs | 18:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | based on this chain | 18:18 |
| tmckay | dmitryme, https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1321906, you should be added | 18:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | any thoughts/questions on it? | 18:19 |
| tmckay | I haven't looked yet but I will today | 18:19 |
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| dmitryme | tmckay: yep, I see it | 18:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | honestly, I don't have anything else in mind to discuss today | 18:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | everything is going well | 18:21 |
| alazarev | and what is supposed discussion process with specs? gerrit? | 18:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, only gerrit | 18:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | in fact specs idea is the bp review | 18:21 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Open discussion | 18:21 |
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| elmiko | dmitryme: do you have some experience with Swift/Keystone? | 18:21 |
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| alazarev | and etherpad before specs review? | 18:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, nope | 18:22 |
| dmitryme | elmiko: I think I have some | 18:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Blueprints#Nova | 18:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, ^^ | 18:22 |
| alazarev | elmiko: I have too | 18:22 |
| dmitryme | elmiko: something you want to discuss? | 18:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | spec should be discussed in gerrit | 18:22 |
| elmiko | dmitryme, alazarev, mainly ideas for solving the swift/auth stuff. i will make a post on the bug report. | 18:23 |
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| elmiko | i may need some guidance with respect to how Swift authenticates against Keystone | 18:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, welcome! | 18:23 |
| crobertsrh | Heh | 18:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, any news from merging hell? | 18:24 |
| crobertsrh | I'm still hopeful that the dashboard merge will happen someday :) | 18:24 |
| dmitryme | elmiko: ok, will take a look at it | 18:24 |
| crobertsrh | Currently, I'm adding some basic tests for each of the panels. | 18:24 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: no merges, no hell :) | 18:24 |
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| crobertsrh | It seems that at least basic tests will be required. Surprisingly, nobody had commented that on a review yet | 18:24 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, tests are great | 18:25 |
| alazarev | crobertsrh: I would prefer to have something working first and add tests later | 18:25 |
| crobertsrh | alazarev: I agree. What is there does work. It just doesn't sound like it will ever get merged if we don't have at least some tests. | 18:25 |
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| crobertsrh | These are not the full-blown selenium integration tests, just fairly basic unit tests for each panel | 18:26 |
| alazarev | because we will need to bport all bugs merged to sahara-dashboard after branching | 18:26 |
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| alazarev | faster we have some ‘base’ in horizon faster we will be able to commit only to horizon | 18:27 |
| crobertsrh | Yes. Thanks to the Sahara "regulars" for their reviews so far. We need to find a bigger hammer to get more horizon people to look (especially their cores) | 18:27 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | oh, there is one more good question... will we tag j1 in sahara-dashboard? | 18:27 |
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| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: I think yes, why not? | 18:27 |
| elmiko | crobertsrh: i've been trying to review other horizon stuff as well to help out | 18:27 |
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| crobertsrh | There are at least one or two fixes there in sahara-dashboard, it should probably be tagged | 18:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, it'll be a bit inconsistent to have j1 and don't have j release | 18:28 |
| alazarev | I’m reviewing other horizon stuff too | 18:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'll discuss it with ttx, but yup, sounds like we need to have s-d j1 tagge | 18:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tagged* | 18:28 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: we can’t be fully sure in ‘don't have j release’ :) | 18:28 |
| crobertsrh | I think that at the end of each horizon review, you should add "Please look at the sahara stuff!!!" | 18:28 |
| elmiko | lol | 18:29 |
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| alazarev | “-1 (will change to +1 after you review sahara stuff” :) | 18:29 |
| crobertsrh | Even better! | 18:30 |
| elmiko | alazarev: lol, i was just thinking that! | 18:30 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | heh | 18:30 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I hope we'll have dashboard merged in J | 18:31 |
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| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: to do that we will need to speed up horizon core somehow | 18:31 |
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| crobertsrh | Oh...also, it looks like horizon will split from openstack_dashboard soon in a month or so. | 18:33 |
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| alazarev | crobertsrh: what do you mean? | 18:34 |
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| crobertsrh | They are going to have separate repos for the base horizon stuff and the openstack_dashboard stuff | 18:34 |
| crobertsrh | our stuff will obviously be part of the openstack_dashboard piece | 18:34 |
| crobertsrh | I'm hoping that it's lower-traffic than base horizon | 18:34 |
| SergeyLukjanov | oh my | 18:35 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | but it really could affect reviewing I think | 18:35 |
| crobertsrh | Yes, so I'm really hoping we can get merged before they do the split. | 18:35 |
| SergeyLukjanov | due to the work that will be needed due to the separation | 18:35 |
| crobertsrh | Yes | 18:35 |
| alazarev | split sounds reasonable | 18:35 |
| crobertsrh | review, review, review. Make extra accounts and review stuff if you have to :) | 18:36 |
| SergeyLukjanov | :) | 18:36 |
| crobertsrh | kidnap a horizon core member, if necessary. | 18:36 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: I believe no work will be needed from our side. But review speed could be affected. | 18:36 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, we'll probably need to update something or to move reviews to another repo | 18:37 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I don't think that it's easy and fast to split such big project | 18:37 |
| alazarev | crobertsrh: extra accounts will not help, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86648 has 4 +1’s and this doesn’t make any difference | 18:37 |
| crobertsrh | True. It looks like pester/kidnap cores is our only real option. | 18:38 |
| alazarev | we need extra accounts that may +2 :) | 18:38 |
| crobertsrh | I will certainly up my pestering in their weekly meeting (and in #openstack-horizon) | 18:38 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I've seen their separation etherpad and it looks like it is not a very complicated process | 18:39 |
| alazarev | when do they have meetings? | 18:39 |
| crobertsrh | Tuesdays @ noon my time (UTC 16:00?) | 18:40 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | anything else to discuss? | 18:40 |
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| crobertsrh | Nothing here | 18:41 |
| alazarev | not from me | 18:41 |
| tmckay | nothing here | 18:41 |
| elmiko | nothing here | 18:41 |
| SergeyLukjanov | okay | 18:41 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thank you folks! | 18:41 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 18:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 5 18:41:54 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-06-05-18.02.html | 18:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-06-05-18.02.txt | 18:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-06-05-18.02.log.html | 18:41 |
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