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| katyafervent | Hi all! | 15:01 |
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| sergmelikyan | #startmeeting Murano | 15:01 |
| sergmelikyan | #startmeeting Murano | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 11 15:01:46 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sergmelikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Murano)" | 15:01 | |
| tnurlygayanov | Hi ) | 15:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 15:01 |
| tsufiev | hi! | 15:01 |
| sergmelikyan | Hi, guys! | 15:02 |
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| gokrokve | Hi | 15:02 |
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| akuznetsova | hi there | 15:02 |
| sergmelikyan | Todays agenda, as always, is available on wiki - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda | 15:02 |
| sergmelikyan | Agenda: | 15:02 |
| sergmelikyan | Quick News (summit summary) | 15:02 |
| sergmelikyan | Action Items review | 15:02 |
| sergmelikyan | Status of release 0.3/0.4 | 15:02 |
| sergmelikyan | LoadBalancer Issue | 15:02 |
| sergmelikyan | Solum Integration | 15:03 |
| sergmelikyan | OpenDiscussion | 15:03 |
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| sergmelikyan | #topic Quick News | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Quick News (Meeting topic: Murano)" | 15:03 | |
| sergmelikyan | gokrokve, what about some news related to Murano from the summit? :) | 15:03 |
| gokrokve | Yep, sure. | 15:03 |
| gokrokve | We did unconference presentation and discussion about Murano course changing to Application Catalog. | 15:04 |
| gokrokve | This announcement was well accepted. | 15:04 |
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| gokrokve | I've got couple feedbacks that Murano now is associated with Windows deployment, so we will have to spread information about new mission of Murano among the community. | 15:05 |
| igormarnat | Hi there | 15:05 |
| gokrokve | There is a demand for Application Catalog and at least two companies told us that they think or do something in this direction. | 15:06 |
| gokrokve | I will continue to work with them in order to join our efforts. | 15:07 |
| igormarnat | I've heard of three actually:) | 15:07 |
| gokrokve | Probably three :-) | 15:07 |
| gokrokve | We had two representative and one rumor :-) | 15:08 |
| igormarnat | LGTM | 15:08 |
| igormarnat | Gosha, we need to put together and distribute over the mailing list AIs and agreements achieved in HK | 15:08 |
| gokrokve | Sure. | 15:09 |
| sergmelikyan | Cool, this proves that we going to the right direction | 15:09 |
| igormarnat | gokrokve: will you be doing it or do I take it as an AI? | 15:09 |
| gokrokve | Yes, It appeared that this is important direction for the community. | 15:09 |
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| sergmelikyan | #action: gokrokve, Put together and distribute over the mailing list AIs and agreements achieved in HK | 15:10 |
| gokrokve | Let's do this from both sides. I will prepare my list, and you will prepare your list. Then we will merge them. | 15:10 |
| gokrokve | So, what is the current status with Murano development? How is integration with Fuel? | 15:11 |
| katyafervent | Yes, I think we need to communicate more with the community | 15:11 |
| igormarnat | +1 | 15:11 |
| igormarnat | Let's figure out the status of integration from Serge, after that from Timur | 15:11 |
| katyafervent | It was some heat related problems but sergmelikyan resolved them :) | 15:12 |
| sergmelikyan | Let's start with reviewing our AI's from the last meeting ) | 15:12 |
| tsufiev | gokrokve: Max Mazur has built rpm-packages for the Fuel, we have Murano dashboard working, Service draft is able to be created... | 15:12 |
| tsufiev | but it wasn't able to deploy due to heat/keystone problem | 15:12 |
| sergmelikyan | Release status is our third topic for today :) | 15:12 |
| igormarnat | Let's follow the agenda then | 15:13 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic Action Items review | 15:13 |
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| sergmelikyan | Action items from previous meeting is available here - http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2013/murano.2013-10-28-15.00.html | 15:13 |
| sergmelikyan | *are | 15:13 |
| sergmelikyan | First one is related to the "Per Environment Network Management" document | 15:14 |
| sergmelikyan | Alexander is not available today, and I am not sure that he is created etherpad for this document, but I know that he is finished implementation/ | 15:15 |
| tsufiev | sergmelikyan: are you talking about advanced networking? | 15:16 |
| gokrokve | Cool. When will we have a metadata service? | 15:16 |
| sergmelikyan | tsufiev, Yes | 15:16 |
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| sergmelikyan | gokrokve, it is already available, but implementation going to be finished and released with release 0.4 | 15:16 |
| sergmelikyan | Most of the work is already done | 15:16 |
| tsufiev | sergmelikyan: me and Stan Lagun have reviewed it, it has to be changed a bit | 15:17 |
| gokrokve | ok | 15:17 |
| sergmelikyan | tsufiev, yes, and I believe that all comment going to be resolved till the next week | 15:18 |
| gokrokve | Do we have UI part for it? | 15:18 |
| sergmelikyan | Next AI: For release 0.3 we need to include both sets of templates (quantum- and non-quantum) to the distribution, and modify the manifests to use either version depending on the quantum configuration | 15:18 |
| tsufiev | sergmelikyan: yes | 15:18 |
| katyafervent | ?? ???? ?? ?? ???????? | 15:18 |
| gokrokve | I mean, we have to do some review from Joel. | 15:18 |
| katyafervent | UI part is in progress | 15:18 |
| tsufiev | gokrokve: no, UI for advanced networking is planned for next release | 15:18 |
| gokrokve | Ok. | 15:18 |
| gokrokve | I was talking about metadata service. | 15:19 |
| sergmelikyan | About out AI - We had prepared and committed two sets of workflows designed for two use-cases. | 15:19 |
| tsufiev | gokrokve: we're currently working on admin UI, plan to finish it by the end of the week | 15:19 |
| gokrokve | cool. | 15:19 |
| katyafervent | For metadata UI we'll have some features that is not implemented in horizon so we need to do some things that we need | 15:20 |
| gokrokve | We will probably need to move this meeting. It is 7 AM in CA. | 15:20 |
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| gokrokve | Nobody from west coast will attend it. | 15:20 |
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| igormarnat | Yeah, this is not good | 15:21 |
| tsufiev | there is a Mistral meeting planned on 8pm | 15:21 |
| igormarnat | Let's assign the AI to Serge to figure out if there's another timeslot available | 15:21 |
| sergmelikyan | AI: Find new available timeslot for Murano meeting that is later then current one. | 15:22 |
| sergmelikyan | #action, Serg: Find new available timeslot for Murano meeting that is later then current one. | 15:22 |
| katyafervent | I suggest to move meeting to our morning | 15:22 |
| katyafervent | so it will be evening there | 15:22 |
| tsufiev | Sunday evening, i think :) | 15:23 |
| sergmelikyan | :) | 15:23 |
| sergmelikyan | Let's move to our next AI )) | 15:23 |
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| sergmelikyan | Next AI: Discuss with Heat team future of AWS::ElasticLoadBalancing::LoadBalancer resource | 15:24 |
| stanlagun | So that nobofy from our side will attend it :) | 15:24 |
| igormarnat | [still speaking of meetings] I'd rather consider another day but keeping time about 8-9 AM Pst | 15:24 |
| sergmelikyan | We discussed this with Heat, and found that we have three options that we may implement to fix issues with Load Balancer based resource. We going to discuss this issue later today | 15:25 |
| sergmelikyan | Next AI: AWS::ElasticLoadBalancing::LoadBalancer behaviour in Havanna | 15:25 |
| sergmelikyan | Result: same as in Grizzly | 15:26 |
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| sergmelikyan | Aaaand we finished with our AI's from previous meeting. | 15:26 |
| sergmelikyan | Any questions? And we may move to the most hot topic today - release status. | 15:26 |
| tnurlygayanov | do we plan to base server farms on AWS::ElasticLoadBalancing::LoadBalancer? | 15:27 |
| sergmelikyan | We going to discuss this today (in this meeting) today :) | 15:27 |
| sergmelikyan | So, moving on... | 15:28 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic Status of release 0.3/0.4 | 15:28 |
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| sergmelikyan | I am responsible for release 0.3, so status is on me for this release. | 15:29 |
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| igormarnat | gokrokve became all ears:) | 15:29 |
| IgorYozhikov | I suggest that we can try to implement LB through the workflow and Linux agent | 15:30 |
| sergmelikyan | Our release in testing, we finished with development and now we are on testing phase. We found issue that preventing to receive big messages from RabbitMQ on Linux with SSL enabled and Puka/Pika as a client. Stan is working on fix for this issue (currently we verifying already provided fix) | 15:31 |
| tnurlygayanov | but why we should implement "one more load balancer"? | 15:31 |
| sergmelikyan | guys, we going to return to the "Load Balancer" theme | 15:31 |
| tnurlygayanov | ok) | 15:31 |
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| igormarnat | Folks, let's stick to the agenda and get finished with release status | 15:32 |
| sergmelikyan | later, please ) | 15:32 |
| sergmelikyan | And this is all for release 0.3, I believe. No other issues for now. | 15:32 |
| gokrokve | So, are we on track with 0.3 release? | 15:32 |
| sergmelikyan | As soon as we finish with testing we going to release our Murano 0.3 | 15:33 |
| gokrokve | When will we have release candidate available for testing? | 15:33 |
| sergmelikyan | gokrokve, Yes, release date is Nov 15 | 15:33 |
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| gokrokve | It means, that RC build should be already in testing phase. | 15:33 |
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| sergmelikyan | gokrokve, this is right. | 15:34 |
| gokrokve | Timur, what is your feedback on the release? | 15:34 |
| gokrokve | What is the testing status? | 15:34 |
| sergmelikyan | tnurlygayanov, | 15:35 |
| tnurlygayanov | ok, so... | 15:36 |
| tnurlygayanov | we have the complete testing cycle for all components | 15:36 |
| tnurlygayanov | and we already checks all components with integration tests | 15:37 |
| tnurlygayanov | we have some issues with ssl | 15:37 |
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| tnurlygayanov | we have different automated testing jobs in CI system https://murano-ci.mirantis.com/ | 15:38 |
| tnurlygayanov | and we can monitor the staus on this page | 15:38 |
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| tnurlygayanov | my feedback that all works fine, but we have some issues: | 15:39 |
| tnurlygayanov | 1. SSL with Rabbit MW and linux agents (fix in progress) | 15:39 |
| tnurlygayanov | 2. Performance of Murano API service (will be fixed in the next releases) | 15:40 |
| tnurlygayanov | and we have only one blocker bug for this release - with SSL for RabbitMQ | 15:40 |
| igormarnat | Timur, you might want to take an AI for you to switch the page you sent link to to the full English | 15:40 |
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| tnurlygayanov | ok | 15:41 |
| tnurlygayanov | #action fix Jenkins configuration to full eng | 15:41 |
| sergmelikyan | Let's move to the Release 0.4 status, tsufiev? | 15:42 |
| tnurlygayanov | Thank you, Igor. | 15:42 |
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| tsufiev | sergmelikyan: yeah, a few more seconds... | 15:42 |
| sergmelikyan | #info Release 0.3 Status: In testing, 1 issue pending | 15:43 |
| * sergmelikyan not mentioned issue with murano-api performance, since this issue is moved to the next release | 15:44 | |
| tsufiev | 1. advanced networking is implemented by Alexander Tivelkov in murano-conductor and fixed templates in murano-repository, has been reviewed by my and stanlagun, and is waiting for ativelkov to fix our comments. We're expecting him to do it by the end of the week. Release 0.4 still doesn't include UI for it. | 15:44 |
| * sergmelikyan thinks that we should speed-up, not so much time remains till the end of the meeting | 15:45 | |
| igormarnat | +1 | 15:45 |
| tsufiev | 2. Metadata Repository has fully implemented client part (dashboard and conductor), admin UI is in progress, hope to finish also by the end of the week | 15:45 |
| tsufiev | 3. Heat/Havana support - sergmelikyan and dteselkin have fixed one bug with heat/keystone today | 15:46 |
| tsufiev | though more bugs can be found, i still don't know | 15:46 |
| tnurlygayanov | we should fix several bugs in this (Murano 0.4) release: https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1245836 | 15:47 |
| tnurlygayanov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1211337 | 15:47 |
| sergmelikyan | Issue with Heat and keystone not related to the Murano itself. Bug was simply Heat misconfiguration. | 15:47 |
| gokrokve | Great. | 15:47 |
| tsufiev | 4. Linux Agent just works :) | 15:48 |
| tsufiev | I think that was the status on all 0.4 deliverables | 15:48 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic LoadBalancer Issue | 15:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "LoadBalancer Issue (Meeting topic: Murano)" | 15:48 | |
| sergmelikyan | This issue may be resolved in three ways: via extending configuration capabilities of AWS::ElasticLoadBalancing::LoadBalancer, using another implementation of load balancing in Heat - OS::Neutron::LoadBalancer or via implementing own load balancing service, for example based on HAProxy (as all previous ones) | 15:49 |
| sergmelikyan | We still exploring this options, and I believe finish we decinding till the next week. For now I don't have clear vision how we should fix this issue. | 15:50 |
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| igormarnat | Who's the guy responsible for this implementation, you or Alexander? | 15:50 |
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| sergmelikyan | igormarnat, I am responsible one for the implementation | 15:51 |
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| igormarnat | Fine, then we don't meed to wait for Alexander to get back to Msk, let's discuss this topic tomorrow and either figure out the proper way or figure out suitable folks to discuss this with | 15:52 |
| sergmelikyan | igormarnat, we can later discuss this options in more details. I have done some research on this topic. | 15:52 |
| igormarnat | I don't think we can decide on this now, so let's move on | 15:52 |
| sergmelikyan | igormarnat, Ok! | 15:52 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic Solum Integration | 15:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Solum Integration (Meeting topic: Murano)" | 15:53 | |
| sergmelikyan | Solum is a new project in OpenStack world, that is essentially PaaS and we need to integrate with this solution. gokrokve can you share some thought after summit? | 15:54 |
| igormarnat | From my perspective we need to agree with folks on at least API and env. description | 15:54 |
| sergmelikyan | igormarnat, sure, we need to start deep dive into they proposal and integration details. I may be responsible for this | 15:55 |
| igormarnat | So what's the output from this meeting in regards with Solumn integration? Are there AIs taken by you? :) | 15:56 |
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| sergmelikyan | igormarnat, not yet, but I would like to start to getting to know more about Solum, and start interaction we Solum guys regarding integration with Murano. What you think about this? | 15:58 |
| sergmelikyan | *do you | 15:58 |
| igormarnat | It is a good way to … start:) | 15:58 |
| gokrokve | Solum is interesting, it is interesting for Murano as it produces applications, which can be published then in Murano | 15:59 |
| gokrokve | There will be a design summit on Nov 19th,20th for Solum. I plan to participate in it. | 15:59 |
| sergmelikyan | #action Serg, start discussing with Solum devs API specs and env. descriptions format | 16:00 |
| gokrokve | We definetely have to prepare our BP for Solum. For everything, not only for integration part. | 16:00 |
| sergmelikyan | gokrokve, it's a massive goal :) | 16:00 |
| gokrokve | Yes. | 16:00 |
| igormarnat | Is there anything else to discuss? We are over in terms of time | 16:00 |
| gokrokve | No. It is time for Mistral :-) | 16:01 |
| sergmelikyan | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from the last meeting (Meeting topic: savanna)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 11 16:01:03 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2013/murano.2013-11-11-15.01.html | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2013/murano.2013-11-11-15.01.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2013/murano.2013-11-11-15.01.log.html | 16:01 |
| sergmelikyan | Savanna guys didn't finish they meeting in this channel in proper way :) | 16:01 |
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