Thursday, 2017-08-31

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rosmaitaCourtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, alex_bash, smcginnis13:59
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rosmaita#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 31 14:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:00
abhishekko/14:00
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rosmaita#topic roll call14:00
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rosmaitahi abhishekk14:00
abhishekkhi rosmaita14:00
jokke_o/14:01
rosmaitahi erno14:01
rosmaitalet's wait another minute or two14:01
abhishekkhi jokke_14:01
jokke_hey14:02
rosmaitawell, heck, let's get started14:02
rosmaita#topic updates14:02
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* smcginnis sneeks in late14:03
rosmaitaactually, i should make sure everyone has the agenda14:03
rosmaitawe saw you!14:03
smcginnis:)14:03
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:03
rosmaitaok, first update14:03
rosmaita#topic update - Pike released!14:03
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rosmaitayes, it happened! congratulation everyone14:03
abhishekk\o/14:03
rosmaita#link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/index.html#pike-glance14:04
smcginnisCongrats all!14:04
rosmaitalet's bask in the glory of a job well done for 30 sec14:04
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rosmaitaok, enough basking14:05
abhishekk:D14:05
rosmaita#topic update - business14:05
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rosmaitawhile i've got you here, there are a few patches just to get ready for queens14:05
rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/499155/14:06
rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/497678/14:06
rosmaitaalso, jokke_ and maybe smcginnis , do we have to worry about that SemVer commit?14:06
rosmaita(do you even know what i am talking about?)14:06
jokke_rosmaita: just gonna ask which one is that?14:06
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rosmaitahere's what i mean: https://docs.openstack.org/glance/latest/contributor/release-cpl.html#final-releases14:07
jokke_if you mean the version bump, that should have been done when the stable/pike branch was created and iirc it's coming automatic nowadays14:07
rosmaitaone of the patches i listed above opens the data migration14:08
rosmaitaright, the release version14:08
smcginnisI actually asked the release team about that.14:08
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smcginnisIt was something new.14:08
rosmaitadumb question ... how can i check the release version in master?14:08
smcginnisrosmaita: I believe it stays at whatever the last release is until the first milestone release happens.14:09
rosmaitaright, and EmilienM (i think) was saying it's a problem for packagers or something14:10
smcginnisThe referenced patch there ended up being abandoned since it ended up getting close to Pike-1. But it may be worth trying again.14:10
smcginnisFWIW, all projects do have this issue until the first release of a new cycle, so it's not something unique to glance.14:10
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rosmaitasmcginnis good to know14:10
smcginnisBut if this works well, maybe this could be something we recommend to all projects to get around that.14:10
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rosmaitait's on our checklist, though, so i figure we need to do something14:11
smcginnisI think it only affects those doing CD off of master.14:11
jokke_oh ... hmm-m14:11
jokke_just looking that but we should have done that at the branch creation14:11
rosmaitapossibly14:12
jokke_as not everything between that and now are part of 15.0.0 as anything that happened in master since are backports14:12
jokke_if included in pike14:12
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smcginnisjokke_: It only affects master. Maybe ideal to do it right at branch creation, but could still do it for anything going forward I think.14:12
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rosmaitatake a look at this: https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/glance/unreleased.html14:13
rosmaitashowing as 15.0.0.0rc1-2214:13
rosmaitaand that's the RC-2 release note14:13
jokke_hmm-m ... ok let me dig into pbr and figure out why that's a thing14:14
rosmaita#action jokke_ follow up on whether we need to do something like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453416/ in master soon14:15
jokke_#action jokke_ to look into pbr and figure out why SemVer: api-break is needed and when it actually should be done14:15
rosmaitaok, thanks14:15
jokke_ahh14:15
jokke_#undo14:15
rosmaitaok one last business item14:16
rosmaitathese are for jokke_ , really, as they are focused on interoperable image import14:16
rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/493436/14:16
rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/498138/14:16
rosmaitaone of them is an update to the image status fields dev docs14:16
rosmaitathe other is the admin guide about configuring image import14:17
jokke_oh cool14:17
jokke_thanks14:17
rosmaitaLGTM, but i want to make sure you looked first14:17
jokke_will look into them14:17
rosmaitacool14:17
rosmaitaok, moving on14:17
rosmaita#topic tasks not working in Pike devstack14:17
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rosmaitathis took me quite a while to track down14:18
rosmaitathere are two things happening14:18
rosmaita#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/171246314:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1712463 in Glance "failure when running under wsgi configuration" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Rosmaita (brian-rosmaita)14:18
rosmaitaok, the first problem is that oslo_concurrency.processutils, which we use in the "old" import task to run qemu-img to get info, doesn't work when glance is running under uwsgi14:19
rosmaitathat seems to be a bug in processutils14:19
rosmaitabut doesn't look like oslo_concurrency peeps have taken a look yet14:20
rosmaitamtreinish suggested some workaround (i.e., don't use processutils)14:21
rosmaitabut, we should probably push them to fix the bug14:21
smcginnisDo they have a PTG planning etherpad? Might be good to discuss it there?14:22
rosmaitawhich reminds me, we are not consistent in our code when dealing with the output from processutils.trycmd()14:22
rosmaitasmcginnis good question, don't know14:22
rosmaita#action rosmaita write up glance bug about dealing with processutils14:22
rosmaita(no sense patching if we decide not to use processutils)14:22
smcginnisYep, they are meeting Mon-Tue: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-ptg-queens14:23
rosmaitaok, i will put a quick thing on the PTG and ping doug14:24
dhellmannis the oslo team even aware of that processutils bug? I haven't heard about it, but I'm not fully in the loop with that team any more14:24
rosmaitaspeaking of who!14:24
* dhellmann arrives late, between meetings14:24
rosmaitadhellmann don't know14:24
dhellmannis the bug associated with an oslo deliverable?14:24
jokke_I don't know how you guys feel, but running glance in wsgi container is not at the top of my priority list. We know that it's broken/flaky partially as we're fundamentally doing stuff that is outright just not supported by all the wsgi libs14:24
dhellmannit is14:24
jokke_dhellmann: \o14:24
mtreinishrosmaita: my real suggestion was on how to fix processutils so it's not calling python via a subprocess which is just weird14:25
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mtreinishrosmaita: but it would also be quite simple to just bypass it and also keep the rate limiting14:25
rosmaitamtreinish thanks for the clarification14:25
rosmaitai think it's probably something better to fix in processutils14:25
EmilienMrosmaita: woot?14:25
rosmaitabecause other people will encounter it14:25
rosmaitaEmilienM hi!14:25
jokke_EmilienM: \o14:25
dhellmannregarding the version number bump, we don't want project teams each doing their own thing to solve that problem. let's make sure it's on the release team list for the ptg and see if we can come up with a common solution.14:26
rosmaitaEmilienM jokke_ will follow up with you, it's about kicking up the version in master before the first milestone14:26
rosmaitaor14:26
rosmaitawhat dhellmann said14:26
rosmaitaok, so that means jokke_ will hold off until after the ptg14:26
jokke_dhellmann: thanks! That's kind of what I wanted to look/probe for14:26
smcginnisIf that works, we can just automate it.14:27
rosmaitasmcginnis can you put that on the release team ptg etherpad? i hear you are connected14:27
jokke_as I thought the version bumping was not necessary anymore14:27
dhellmannsmcginnis : it's topic 15 on the backlog on the pike planning pad, so if you've copied that info over then it's already on the ptg list14:27
smcginnisdhellmann: Oh, perfect. Yep.14:28
smcginnisrosmaita: Done I guess. :)14:28
rosmaitaback to the uwsgi discussion14:28
rosmaitathe other problem is that we use an eventlet pool to run the actual tasks14:29
jokke_yes14:29
rosmaitai can't get tasks to run unless i put a waitall() after the spawn_n cal;l14:29
rosmaitai know the pool exists, has 1024 threads14:30
dhellmannis the wsgi app setting up eventlet in the expected way?14:30
rosmaitawell, we have some code that when you put a lock on the pool, it will create the pool if it doesn't exist already14:30
dhellmannif running glance under a wsgi server isn't really recommended, maybe that's the response to the goal14:31
rosmaitai don't know that we do any special setup14:31
rosmaitadhellmann it is certainly beginning to look like that14:31
mtreinishmy guess is this was just working before because things were just running under the eventlet server14:31
jokke_dhellmann: we should have that in our documentation for Pike already14:31
EmilienMrosmaita: I'm missing context (I'm already in a meeting right now) but yeah if jokke_ can me ping later and tell me what's going on :D14:31
rosmaitawell, we do have warnings in the release notes and docs14:31
jokke_EmilienM: sure14:32
rosmaitaEmilienM ty, nothing to worry about, release team will discuss at the ptg14:32
mtreinishbut and that new how to handle it, but if running outside of that we need to do all the setup like the eventlet server would14:32
rosmaitawe also have the upload issue, though14:32
rosmaita#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/170385614:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1703856 in Glance "502 Bad gateway error on image-create" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Matthew Treinish (treinish)14:32
mtreinishalthough it makes me wonder what we gain by jamming this all under the same service14:32
mtreinishrosmaita: I have fixes up for that14:33
jokke_I think there was fix proposed for that for uwsgi14:33
mtreinishsee comment #1914:33
abhishekkthere are two patches14:33
abhishekkone for glance and on in devstack, I will test this tomorrow14:34
rosmaitaok, cool14:34
abhishekks/on/one14:34
rosmaitathanks mtreinish for staying on top of this14:34
rosmaitaand thanks abhishekk for testing14:34
dhellmannusing wsgi probably makes more sense for services where the API and workers are separated, so I don't think it's a problem to just respond to the community goal with "don't do that" and move on14:34
rosmaitadhellmann ok, that's good to know14:35
rosmaitai guess we can discuss at the ptg14:35
dhellmannalthough folks are likely to ask how to configure glance to be part of the same domain/path structure as the other apps, so having an answer to that would be good14:35
jokke_specially as we're more and more relying on the tasks now which will need the eventlet anyways14:35
rosmaitajokke_ so that makes me wonder about mtreinish 's question14:35
dhellmannjokke_ : if those run in the background, they would be good candidates to move out of the main glance service14:35
rosmaitawhat dhellmann said14:36
rosmaitaok, looks like a good PTG topic14:36
jokke_dhellmann: I don't see that being something that would a) being backportable for Pike (the goal) b) would happen in queens14:36
rosmaitaok, well we will discuss in person at the PTG14:38
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rosmaitaso conclusion here is that (a) put processutils on the oslo etherpad, and (b) don't do anything about the tasks not running in devstack issue until after we discuss at the ptg14:39
rosmaitaok14:39
rosmaita#topic priorities for R-25 (next week)14:40
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rosmaitaok, just a point of information14:40
rosmaitamonday is a USA holiday14:40
EmilienMand Canada ;-)14:40
rosmaitathe py35 goal completion ... i still have not filled in that etherpad ... after today's meeting i will shut down my irc and email and just focus on that14:40
rosmaitai'll give a status update in the priorities email14:41
rosmaitaok, as far as wsgi goal followup, looks like we've got mtreinish 's two patches to review, so that's cool14:41
rosmaitaand the other thing is PTG planning14:41
rosmaitalooks like we have some new items that came up today14:42
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rosmaitaplease take a look at the topics there and indicate your interest14:42
rosmaitathough i think we'll have enough time to discuss them all14:42
jokke_I've been filling it up ;)14:43
rosmaitagood, i haven't looked recently14:43
jokke_as promised last week, by this meeting ;)14:43
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rosmaitacool, look like good additions14:44
rosmaitaok, i will have a proposed schedule ready early wednesday, and we can finalize at next week's glance meeting14:44
rosmaitaunless people won't be available due to traveling?14:44
dhellmannrosmaita : where's the ptg list?14:45
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-queens-ptg-planning14:45
dhellmannthanks14:45
rosmaitajokke_ , abhishekk will you be available for glance meeting next week14:46
rosmaita?14:46
abhishekki will be there14:46
jokke_yeah, I should be here14:46
abhishekki am travelling on Friday14:46
rosmaitaexcellent, we can finalize schedule at the meeting14:47
rosmaita#topic open discussion14:47
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rosmaitaanyone?14:47
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jokke_I think my only one for this was the ptg planning14:48
jokke_or highlighting that we should get the topics ready for decision14:48
rosmaitagreat14:48
rosmaitawe will have interesting topics to discuss for sure14:49
rosmaitaok, well if no one else, thanks everyone for attending14:49
rosmaitain addition to the ususal suspects, thanks dhellmann for dropping by14:50
dhellmanno/14:50
abhishekkthank you14:50
jokke_Thanks! o/~14:50
rosmaitaok, see you next week, and then for real the week after that!14:50
rosmaita#endmeeting14:50
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smcginnisThanks!14:51
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rosmaitano searchlight meeting this week, so no sense hanging around14:52
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evrardjpo/16:00
spotz#startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 31 16:00:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
spotz#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting16:00
spotz#topic Roll Call16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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evrardjpo/16:00
xgerman_o/16:00
spotzI was smart today I set alarm for the start vs pre-start:)16:00
evrardjphaha16:00
spotzWe'll give folks a few minutes as there's not much o the agenda16:01
andymccro/16:01
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spotzSee if that gets anyone else:)16:02
spotz1 more minute then we'll move on16:03
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spotz#topic PTG - 11-15 September - Denver, Colorado16:05
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spotzFuture boss?16:05
evrardjpyeah I can speak a little about that16:05
evrardjpI've updated the etherpad, just add more stuff into it.16:05
spotz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-denver-PTG-planning16:06
spotz^16:06
evrardjpThere are still some <TODO>s items from last week that needs to be filled, I'd be very happy if you could fill the blanks :D16:06
evrardjp(at least if your name is on the TODO item)16:06
evrardjpWhen that's ready, I'll reorganise the etherpad like what RDO team is doing. It's clever and clean.16:07
spotzI'll get the name of the Irish pub someone found, that'll be a good outing for you guys it's a 15-20 minute walk though16:07
andymccrsounds good to me. evrardjp i advise giving ppl individual pings if you need specific TODO's filled in16:07
evrardjpthanks for the advice andymccr :D16:07
evrardjpI am good with an Irish pub, we don't have these here.16:08
spotzheheh16:08
evrardjpthanks for organising that spotz!16:08
spotzNP, remember to take a picture of a dalmatian everywhere to include in pictures!16:09
spotzMoving on...16:09
spotz#topic Release Planning and Decisions16:09
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spotzcurrent/old boss?:)16:09
andymccrok so16:10
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andymccrRelease is PTG week!16:10
andymccrmost things are in pretty good shape, i'll do another bump on Monday16:10
* hwoarang is happy16:10
andymccrwe have a few failures on upgrade jobs that we should get fixed before release if possible16:10
andymccrand also there is a ceph/centos7 issue which hopefully we can get fixed16:11
andymccrotherwise all periodics are passing and we seem to be doing good!16:11
spotzYou'll post a list for emergency reviews?16:11
andymccrso not much else, but if you have specific things you need to get bumped after monday (I may do another bump friday) - let me know or put a PR in16:11
andymccrspotz: will do, i think we dont have any right now since stuff is working - this has been a pretty smooth release16:12
andymccrhwoarang: is there anything additional for suse that needs to go in? Or that's all setup and good to go?16:12
andymccri know the testing backports are up now, so if those go in i assume we're in good shape there too16:12
hwoarangandymccr: i posted all stuff that I need for stable/pike just waiting for jobs to pass16:12
hwoarangi think we are good16:12
hwoarangi will ping people if i find something is missing16:13
andymccrhwoarang: excellent!16:13
spotzNo blueprints I believe until after release?16:13
andymccrfor ocata/newton we'll  do another release as per normal 2 week cadence16:14
andymccrwhich would be next week16:14
spotznice16:14
andymccrspotz: yeah none have been set up , there will probably be some after the PTG once we discuss things16:14
spotzOk so...16:14
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spotz#topic Open Discussion16:14
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spotzAnyone?16:15
andymccri know a few ppl are out.16:15
andymccrif you think of anything to discuss and its a big one, add it to the PTG etherpad ;)16:15
spotzYeah making a long weekend16:15
spotzOk just remember one meeting before the PTG, we'll cancel this during the PTG then resume after16:16
spotzAnd with that....16:16
spotz#endmeeting16:16
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LouisF#startmeeting service_chaining17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 31 17:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
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LouisFhi all17:00
bcafarelhey LouisF17:00
LouisFbcafarel: hi17:00
bcafarelso how did the Pike release go? I'm still clearing up unread mails, but did not see much SFC-related17:01
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LouisFbcafarel: looks like it was ok17:02
LouisFwe now have a pike branch17:02
bcafarelLouisF: nice, I'll probably run a pike branch test once RDO packages are available (see if everything goes fine out of devstack)17:03
LouisFthis may a short meeting as we have a public holiday this weeken in us17:03
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LouisFbcafarel: great17:03
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bcafarelyep, I was wondering if anyone else would show up17:04
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LouisFbcafarel: i am going to away on vacation for next two weeks17:05
LouisFbcafarel: can you run the meeting?17:05
bcafarelLouisF: sure!17:05
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LouisFbcafarel: thanks17:06
LouisFok looks like we have low attendance today17:07
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bcafarelLouisF: so you can prepare for your vacation :)17:08
LouisFbcafarel: does redhat usr rdo and yum for all openstack package installation?17:08
LouisFusr -> use17:08
LouisFbcafarel: that did cross my mind :)17:09
bcafarelrdo is the opensource packaging, so you get rpm packages + tripleo installer on rhel-based systems (usually centos)17:10
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bcafareland is the base for OSP, the Red Hat version with official support17:11
LouisFbcafarel: thanks17:11
LouisFok i am going to end meeting for today - thanks17:11
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LouisFbye17:11
bcafarelLouisF: bye, enjoy you vacation!17:11
LouisF#endmeeting17:12
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LouisFbye17:12
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