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rosmaita#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 17 14:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:00
abhishekko/14:00
rosmaita#topic roll call14:00
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rosmaitahi abhishekk14:00
abhishekkhi rosmaita14:00
rosmaitai see you've been busy since you got back14:00
abhishekkyes, you too were busy in lots of stuff14:01
rosmaitai'm a bit worried about image import, but at least it's turned off by default!14:01
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abhishekkyeah, thats the plus we have now14:02
abhishekkit almost working with your patches now14:02
rosmaitai haven't been able to get the taskflow working, though14:03
rosmaitai think we've got the front-end in good shape14:03
rosmaitabut next is the backend14:03
abhishekkright14:03
rosmaitai bugged erno on his vacation, he's going to kindly look at the docs and answer a few questions14:03
abhishekkthat would be great14:04
rosmaitahere's a link to the etherpad of questions i had: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-iir-pike-RC-changes14:04
abhishekklet me have a look14:05
rosmaitajust in case you can answer any of them, or have others that would be important to ask14:05
rosmaitathanks14:05
rosmaitaok, guess it's just us14:05
rosmaitahere's the agenda link, just for the log:14:05
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:05
rosmaita#topic updates14:06
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rosmaita#topic updates - PTG reminder14:06
*** openstack changes topic to "updates - PTG reminder (Meeting topic: glance)"14:06
rosmaitai haven't mentioned this the past week or so, but just wanted to remind everyone that the etherpad of topics is up, please add some or comment on the ones that are there14:07
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-queens-ptg-planning14:07
rosmaitathat's all about the PTG14:07
rosmaitain other news, USA visitors to australia require a visa for the summit14:08
rosmaitaas do any non-australian residents14:08
rosmaita#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/travel/#visa14:09
rosmaitajust a heads-up there14:09
abhishekkeven Indian visitors also requires visa14:09
rosmaitalooks like everybody!14:09
abhishekkyeah14:09
rosmaita#topic RC-2 situation14:09
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rosmaitai'm going to shoot for friday for  RC-214:10
rosmaitabut that will depend on some more eyes on patches than just you and me!14:10
abhishekkrihgt14:10
abhishekkright14:10
abhishekki will try  to ping mike14:10
rosmaitai think flavio is around, though his irc seems to have crashed in the past hour or so14:10
rosmaitai'll send out an email to the dev list14:11
rosmaitaworst case, i may ninja in the image import changes since they are "optional"14:11
rosmaitabut that sets a bad precedent14:11
rosmaitabut, i will mention that in the email and maybe that will motivate people14:11
abhishekksadly, but we need to take some action14:12
rosmaitaanyway, as you well know, we'll need to do a glanceclient release, too14:12
abhishekkyes14:12
rosmaitai see that mtreinish has been working on the wsgi situation14:13
rosmaitai have not had time to look at his new patchews14:13
rosmaita*patches14:13
abhishekkgive me a day's time I will have a look again on glanceclient14:13
rosmaitai think that since we have that warning in the releasenotes about wsgi, the wsgi patch is not release-critical14:14
abhishekkyes14:14
rosmaitai guess i will say that in the email, too, and see what the reaction is14:14
abhishekkok14:14
rosmaitabut i am really glad that mtreinish is still working on it14:14
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rosmaitai think we can aim to get that and the py35 goal finished before/during the PTG14:15
abhishekksounds good14:16
rosmaitawell, that's pretty much all i have14:16
rosmaitaabhishekk thanks for your hard work14:16
rosmaitajust a reminder to keep the RC etherpad updated if you find any new issues14:16
rosmaitai will do the same14:16
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-pike-RC-critical14:16
abhishekkok, i will keep that in mind14:16
rosmaitacool14:16
rosmaita#topic open discussion14:17
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rosmaitai guess we're done for today!14:18
rosmaita#action rosmaita write up email to dev list about RC-2 needing reviews14:19
rosmaitai will go write that email and get back to testing image import!14:19
abhishekkok, let me know if any help is required14:20
abhishekkI will back online in two hours14:20
rosmaitacool, ty14:20
rosmaitasounds good14:20
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rosmaitaok, thanks abhishekk and anyone who's listening14:20
abhishekkthank you14:21
rosmaita#endmeeting14:21
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smcginnisThat was quick! :)14:21
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rosmaita:)14:21
rosmaitasmcginnis what time zone are you in?14:21
mtreinishrosmaita: yeah, I've got a patch up that should fix it: https://review.openstack.org/49365414:21
smcginnisrosmaita: central US.14:22
smcginnisrosmaita: Where are you located?14:22
rosmaitamtreinish thanks, i haven't had time to look it over yet14:22
mtreinishnot sure if it's really appropriate for rc though, might have to wait for queens14:22
rosmaitasmcginnis blacksburg virginia14:22
rosmaitamtreinish that's what i'm thinking too14:22
smcginnisrosmaita: Oh nice.14:22
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rosmaitamtreinish we can do it really early in queens14:22
rosmaitaguess that doesn't help people wanting working wsgi from a package, though14:23
rosmaitamtreinish are you ok with your improvement not being in pike? it sort of mostly works in pike :)14:24
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rosmaitasmcginnis i may have some questions later about releasing a new glanceclient14:24
rosmaitai need to review the release team docs first14:24
mtreinish:/ yeah, I think we're just out of luck though14:24
mtreinishit's not really something that's backportable14:25
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rosmaitamtreinish tell you what ... i'll mention this in an email to the dev list, and maybe someone will step up to give it a thorough independent workout14:27
rosmaitaso if someone feels it's really important to the community that the glance wsgi deployment work in pike, they can help make it happen14:27
mtreinishrosmaita: heh, fwiw wsgi deployment works fine in pike, just as long as you don't use chunked transfer-encoding :p14:28
smcginnisrosmaita: Sure. Feel free to ask away.14:28
mtreinishand my patch really only fixes for uwsgi, that's kinda of the problem with chunked encoding with wsgi. It depends on the server to work14:29
mtreinishwhich for a lot of things, including mod_wsgi, isn't really an option14:29
rosmaitai wonder what the nginx situation is14:32
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rosmaitamtreinish looking at the calendar, i am now thinking let's just work on this in queens14:34
rosmaitathere are some image import bugs that need to be shaken out in the next few days14:35
rosmaitado you think the current warning in the releasenotes is sufficient, or do we need to say more?14:36
mtreinishrosmaita: on nginx you still need uwsgi or something else to run the python code, that's the bit which needs chunked encoding support14:36
rosmaitaah, ok14:36
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mtreinishrosmaita: if we link to the wsgi deploy docs for glance in there I think it's fine14:37
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mtreinishI can throw up a patch to clear up the language in there a bit14:37
rosmaitaok, cool14:37
rosmaitawe do have a link to those docs, and the bug14:37
rosmaitahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/170385614:37
openstackLaunchpad bug 1703856 in Glance "502 Bad gateway error on image-create" [High,Confirmed]14:37
rosmaitaok, cool, thanks matt14:38
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sjmc7#startmeeting openstack search15:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 17 15:01:12 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
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lei-zho/15:01
sjmc7good morning15:01
sjmc7or evening15:01
lei-zhseems a quiet day15:04
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sjmc7mm15:05
sjmc7we discussed before the pike release moving to every two weeks15:07
sjmc7that seems sensible given the low turnout15:07
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rosmaitasounds like a good ieda15:09
rosmaitaidea, even15:09
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TravTo/15:09
sjmc7ok. well, i’ll go ahead and update the wiki page and send something out on the ML15:09
sjmc7i don’t think there’s anything more formal required, especially as the TC are relaxing the requirements somewhat15:10
rosmaitayou can still call it the "weekly meeting"15:10
rosmaitajust hold it every other week15:10
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sjmc7DOES NOT COMPUTE15:10
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sjmc7ok, then let’s agree it’ll be every two weeks from here on out15:14
sjmc7i’ll send a reminder for the first couple of skipped weeks15:14
sjmc7and i guess i can lurk in here anyway if people show up15:14
lei-zh+115:14
sjmc7ok. aside from that, stable/pike merged last week (yay)15:15
sjmc7pretty much everything made it in except nova notifications15:15
rosmaitanice15:15
TravT+115:17
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sjmc7in terms of queens priorities, the only thing i am focused on is reliability and stability; we don’t have much developer time to be very ambitious15:18
sjmc7i didn’t really have anything else on the agenda this week, been slammed with internal work15:21
sjmc7so unless any’s got anything else, will end it here15:21
lei-zhthere are some discussions in zaqar service queue spec suggests we could use keystone trust to push messages to them instead of implementing a service queue feature15:23
sjmc7yeah, i’d mentioned that before15:23
lei-zhaodh could be an example to follow15:24
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lei-zhI will take a look at it and give some feedbacks15:26
sjmc7ok. so searchlight would need to request the trust ?15:26
lei-zheither let user request sl and use token to apply for a trust or just leave trust id in configuration file maybe15:28
sjmc7heat uses trusts for similar reasons15:28
lei-zhso trust never expires?15:29
sjmc7trusts allow you to request a token on a user’s behalf15:29
sjmc7it can expire, same as a regular one, but you can request a new one15:29
lei-zhto act as a user, right?15:29
sjmc7right15:30
lei-zhok, I'll dig in to see how others use trusts15:30
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lei-zhhave been occupied by some other stuff recently15:33
sjmc7yeah, me too15:33
lei-zhok, I've finished15:34
sjmc7ok. let’s end it here then. thanks all!15:35
sjmc7#endmeeting15:35
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evrardjpo/16:00
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hwoarango.16:01
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mhaydenshould we skip the mtg and work on bugs?16:03
xgerman_+116:03
andymccrsure that sounds good - tbh i have no topics for discussion16:04
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mhaydengood stuff16:05
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evrardjpcool thanks16:07
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spotzheheh I lost track of time:)16:07
spotz#startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting16:07
spotz#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting16:07
spotz#topic Roll Call16:07
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 17 16:07:52 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:07
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asettleDid you have anything, andymccr ?16:08
evrardjpo/16:08
spotzWe have no action items from last week so...16:08
andymccrspotz: mhayden suggested we just do bug smash :)16:08
spotz#topic Topics for Discussion16:08
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andymccrand focus on that!16:08
spotz#topic PTG - 11-15 September - Denver, Colorado16:08
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andymccri'll give a quick update - again, update the etherpad :)16:09
spotzWell PTG is really the only thing we have, cause we're between releases, etc16:09
spotzTher eis one open discussion item16:09
andymccryeah.16:09
andymccralso for releases this week16:09
spotzvakuznet You here?16:09
andymccrwe're pushing out an rc116:09
andymccrnow that everything has worked!16:09
vakuznetyes, I'm here16:10
spotzheheh our one open discussion isn't here, so we're done?:)16:10
spotzAhh he is!16:10
spotz#topic open discussion16:10
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spotz#topic backport Use root folder group_vars into ocata16:10
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spotz#link  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493216/16:11
spotzfloor is yours vakuznet16:11
andymccri know evrardjp put that up on the board16:11
vakuznetwell, I'm told it's up to community to decide. I'd like to see this merged into stable/ocata.16:11
evrardjpyeah I think it's worth discussing16:12
andymccrvakuznet:  ok - cloudnull mhayden you about?16:12
evrardjpI think there are workarounds to do the same thing16:12
evrardjpjust less convenient16:12
cloudnullo/16:12
vakuznetmuch less16:12
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* mhayden woots16:12
spotzand we need odyssey4me16:12
asettlespotz: he just returned to his desk16:13
spotzcool16:13
mhaydeni'm not opposed to this one -- would make future backports a little easier16:13
andymccrmy concern is upgrade path and existing deployments16:13
andymccrlogan-: are you about?16:13
andymccrjmccrory:16:13
andymccrwould be good to get your input16:13
logan-o/16:13
odyssey4mevakuznet that's a major change with a lot of risk - why is it needed in ocata?16:13
logan-sorry forgot to meeting... :) reading backscroll16:14
odyssey4meespecially with a pike release imminent, personally I'd rather just recommend upgrading if you need it16:14
andymccrlogan-: sure its relaly just on. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493216/ its a backport to stable/ocata16:14
odyssey4meevrardjp also did a good blog post outlining other ways to do much the same using ocata: https://evrard.me/group-and-host-variables-overriding-in-openstack-ansible.html16:15
vakuznetocata is last stable16:15
evrardjpthis patch would also need a openstack-ansible.rc change.16:15
odyssey4meyes, and pike stable is hitting RC today16:15
logan-how is our test coverage on the vars plugins16:15
logan--s16:15
odyssey4melogan- non existant, I think16:15
evrardjpyes :/16:15
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spotzvakuznet: Is there a reason you couldn't go pike once it's released which would probably be before we could do the backport16:16
odyssey4meI'm pretty firm on this one. While it'd be nice to have it in Ocata, it's too much risk to implement. We've had enough code churn, so I'm very definitely a -2 on that backport.16:16
odyssey4meAnyone who *really* wants it can happily do their own fork and maintain their fork at their own risk. Anyone who doesn't want to do that can use Pike instead.16:17
logan-personally i have not tested this but i remember all of the discussion we had around merging it to master and iirc there is no precedence difference with how we changed it, it should function equivalently to regular group_vars and host_vars16:17
evrardjpvakuznet: if there really a good reason we should do it. BUt right now, I don't see one16:17
evrardjplogan-: yes it should16:17
odyssey4meemphasis on *should*16:17
evrardjpwe just need to change the openstack-ansible.rc16:18
evrardjpand then seen how it goes.16:18
odyssey4mewe're talking different ansible versions, and many other changes which have been done since implementing that patch originally to solve issues which arose16:18
evrardjpHowever, why change stable?16:18
vakuznetyou want to release pike, then backport is more likely?16:18
spotzWe want to know why you need this in Ocata and then determine if it's worth the risk16:18
odyssey4mevakuznet Pike already has it. No backport necessary.16:18
vakuzneti meant to ocata16:19
spotzvakuznet: Is there a reason you need this on Ocata vs using pike which has it?16:20
vakuznetwe use last stable. ocata is the one right now.16:20
asettleWell, Pike will be the last stable soon. Do you have urgent requirements?16:21
spotzvakuznet: Understood but pike is about to be stable16:21
odyssey4mevakuznet you realise that by backporting that you are destabilising ocata, completely defeating the purpose of using the stable branch16:21
andymccrso it'd be ok if it was a security/bug fix but im not too sure what bug its fixing.16:22
andymccrmy understanding is you can do all those things already (maybe slightly less conveniently) but once you upgrade to pike it'll be that way so from then on its all good16:22
jmccrorythis did have an upgrade impact for pike (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474787/), think it's better not to backport. ocata is under phase 2 right now already16:22
odyssey4mesee the 'For Newton, and Ocata' heading in https://evrard.me/group-and-host-variables-overriding-in-openstack-ansible.html for how you can do things in ocata16:23
andymccrjmccrory: yeah agreed16:23
logan-yeah and as evrardjp (nice blog post btw) points out there's ways to do scoped vars on ocata already too16:23
andymccrjmccrory: yeah agreed16:23
odyssey4meI'd suggest that everyone involved add their vote to the review16:23
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evrardjpsounds a legit approach16:23
spotzodyssey4me: Sounds like a good plan, though it sounds like the cores might be in agreement16:23
evrardjpthanks for all the kind words on the blog post :p16:24
spotzAnyone else have anything?16:25
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spotzOk then back to the bug smash!16:26
spotz#endmeeting16:26
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LouisF#startmeeting service_chaining17:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 17 17:01:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
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LouisFhi all17:01
pcarverhi17:01
LouisF#topic agenda17:01
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LouisFpcarver: hi17:01
LouisFhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting17:01
vks1hi all17:02
LouisFvks1: hi17:02
LouisFheads up - I will be on vacation the first two weeks of Sept17:03
LouisF#topic Pike work17:04
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LouisFlooks like light attendance - I will keep this short17:05
vks1ok17:05
LouisFi see several patches have merged17:06
LouisFlooks like SFC graph has merge conflict17:07
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LouisFi think Igor is on vacation17:07
LouisF#topic APT reference17:07
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LouisFpcarver: what is status?17:07
pcarverNothing new17:07
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LouisFpcarver: ok17:08
LouisFdoonhammer: hi17:08
doonhammerHi all17:08
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LouisF#topic Tap SF17:08
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LouisFvks1: i see the doc merged17:09
LouisFvks1: what is status?17:09
vks1LouisF: I worked with amotoki one day to debug the test case failure, we  didn't finished debugging. After that  I was pulled into some other work17:10
LouisFvks1: ok thanks17:11
LouisF#topic OVN work17:11
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LouisFdoonhammer: what is status?17:11
LouisFmoving on17:13
LouisFi will defer SFC graph and NSH dataplane until Igor returns17:14
LouisF#topic Other Items17:14
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LouisFi don't have anything to add today17:14
LouisFso looks like a short meeting17:15
vks1we can conclude17:15
LouisFok thanks all17:15
vks1bye17:15
LouisFbye all17:15
doonhammerok sorry - I create a demo VNF for SFC to do testing so I will be doing some ore work on it17:15
LouisFdoonhammer: great, thanks17:16
LouisF#endmeeting17:17
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