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ifat_afek#startmeeting vitrage08:01
openstackMeeting started Wed May 24 08:01:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'vitrage'08:01
ifat_afekHi :-)08:01
eyalb\o/08:01
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annarezHi :)08:03
yujunzhi08:03
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idan_hefetzHi08:03
dwjhi08:03
ifat_afekToday’s agenda:08:04
ifat_afek•Status and Updates08:04
ifat_afek•Open Discussion08:04
ifat_afek#topic Status and Updates08:04
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ifat_afekI found and fixed a bug in mark-down08:04
ifat_afekApparently there was no test for that… the latest changes in Vitrage-ID broke the mark-down action, and we didn’t noticed. I fixed the problem and added tests.08:04
ifat_afekWhile working on that, idan_hefetz and I realized that the use of IS_REAL_VITRAGE_ID flag is not clear. doffek said he would change it (not sure when, it’s a matter of prioritis)08:05
ifat_afekI also started thinking about the integration with Mistral. I’m not sure is what the best way to do it yet. Will update when I have a more clear idea08:06
ifat_afekThat’s it for me08:06
yujunzI understand mistral is a workflow engine. How are vitrage going to use it?08:07
yujunzA new action type ? Or something else?08:07
ifat_afekThat’s one of the questions08:07
ifat_afekI was thinking of adding something like:08:08
ifat_afekaction: external08:08
ifat_afek type: mistral08:08
ifat_afek parameters: …. dictionary ....08:08
ifat_afekBut - I’m not sure if I should use the existing mechanism of notifiers for that. Or just call Mistral directly from the action08:08
ifat_afekUsing the notifiers seems like an abuse. Becuase only the Mistral notifier should care about the Mistral actions08:09
ifat_afekAnd BTW - I want to make it generic, so adding a Congress action later on would be straight forward08:09
ifat_afekAnother option is that Mistral notifier will receive a notification from Vitrage graph, and decide what to do. This would require a new configuration file for Mistral notifier08:10
ifat_afekOr - just pass the notification to Mistral via the message bus. And let Mistral workflow register on the wanted notification08:10
ifat_afekThese are my initial thoughts… and in any case, the implementation should be quite simple08:11
yujunzGot it08:11
ifat_afek(since I already managed to execute a Mistral workflow from Vitrage as part of the POC that was presented in Boston)08:11
ifat_afekIf you have any thoughts or ideas, I’ll be happy to hear them. Now, later, or in the mailing list :-)08:12
ifat_afekWho wants to update next?08:13
yujunzMay I?08:14
ifat_afekSure08:14
yujunzEntity equivalence is under review, thanks for all the comments08:15
yujunzIt is currently a combination of refactoring and new features08:15
yujunzIf someone wants a separate view of the refactoring, please check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462532/08:16
ifat_afekYou sent the abandoned issue08:16
yujunzThis patch does not include anything of equivalence, just an optimization of scenario repository08:16
ifat_afekOK08:17
yujunzyes08:17
yujunzBecause I thought Alexey has finished reviewing08:17
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yujunzAnd he is confused with the two patches, so I combined the two08:17
yujunzAnd abandon one08:17
ifat_afekI think it’s a good idea to combine them08:17
ifat_afekI hope we’ll manage to finish the review process soon08:17
yujunzThanks. Another thing is about osprofiler08:18
ifat_afekI think it’s a great improvement08:18
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yujunzI am looking into it for doctor project and it looks also valuable for vitrage08:18
ifat_afekWhich is MitmStack? something else? I don’t remember…08:18
yujunzosprofiler08:18
yujunz#link https://docs.openstack.org/developer/osprofiler/index.html08:18
yujunz#link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57fTdE1hjeo&t=1223s08:18
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ifat_afekRight, now I remember that I’ve heard about it08:19
ifat_afekSounds like a good idea to use it in Vitrage08:19
ifat_afekSo did you start working on that?08:19
yujunzI'm working on using it in doctor project. I will consider it for vitrage after OPNFV summit08:20
ifat_afekSounds good08:20
yujunzSome other colleague in ZTE is also interested in adding trace point for vitrage for performance evaluation08:20
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yujunzI think this is the right tool rather than inventing another wheel08:21
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ifat_afekThis could definitely help us08:21
yujunzCurrently, nova, glance, cinder and many openstack services has already integrated it08:21
alexey_weylHello Streptacocus :)08:21
ifat_afekHi Alexey!08:21
yujunzI think it won't be too difficult. That's all08:21
ifat_afekyujunz: Thanks08:22
ifat_afekalexey_weyl: do you have any updates? ;-)08:22
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alexey_weylWow, good question, let me see.08:23
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alexey_weylI haven't had too much time to work due to me being sick, but I have started to talk with people about some code refactoring in our constants so we will have a unified names08:25
ifat_afekGood idea08:26
yujunzSpeaking of constant name, we need also think about some property name in template.08:27
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ifat_afekLike what?08:27
yujunzMaybe a unified namespace `vitrage_` would be good for things like `is_deleted`08:27
ifat_afekI think that’s alexey_weyl’s proposal, more or less08:27
ifat_afekTo add a vitrage_ prefix to all of the Vitrage properties, to avoid confusion08:28
alexey_weylYujun we all think a like..08:28
alexey_weylthis is a refactoring that I have already strated to make and hopefully it will be done will the end of week..08:29
ifat_afekIf you feel good, that is ;-)08:29
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alexey_weylhhhhhhhh, yeah :)08:29
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ifat_afekAny other update? alexey_weyl or someone else?08:30
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ifat_afek#topic Open Discussion08:32
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ifat_afekWe need to decide whether we want to join the PTG in Denver in September. If enough people are interested, I will ask for a room for the design sessions08:33
ifat_afekI sent an email to the OpenStack mailing list. Waiting for responses.08:33
ifat_afekAny other issue you would like to discuss?\08:33
yujunzNope08:34
ifat_afekSo let’s end the meeting08:35
ifat_afekBye :-)08:35
eyalbbye08:35
annarezbye08:35
dwjbye08:35
ifat_afek#endmeeting08:35
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alex_xu#startmeeting nova api13:00
openstackMeeting started Wed May 24 13:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_api'13:00
alex_xuwho is here today?13:00
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gmanno/13:00
cdento/13:00
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alex_xunot sure sdague johnthetubaguy around also13:01
Kevin_Zhengo/13:01
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alex_xu#topic priorities13:02
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alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/policy-docs13:02
alex_xuthe only one priority item, and looks like we are super close13:02
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gmannalex_xu: yea, seems like gate behaved bad, ll recheck on those13:03
alex_xuyea, I saw live-migration job always failed13:03
alex_xugmann: thanks for those patches also13:03
gmannyea13:04
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alex_xugmann: only have a question for this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461728/, i think we should mark it as deprecated, since the cfg opt "CONF.api.hide_server_address_states" deprecated also13:04
sdagueo/13:04
alex_xuwithout that cfg opt, that rule doesn't work also I think13:05
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gmannalex_xu: so with cfg deprecation we will show address always?13:05
alex_xugmann: i guess so13:06
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gmannalex_xu: but policy may be for separate purpose to hide from few users... but do not know if that make sense or not13:06
gmannsdague: johnthetubaguy  ^^ what you say?13:06
alex_xuyea, i'm not sure why people want to hide the addresses13:06
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gmannyea, me too its their server address only13:07
alex_xuand that is undiscoverable configuration to the API response?13:07
sdagueI honestly have no idea, we have the commit where that was added?13:07
sdaguethis is the base commit b3bbd09131e127e7540f4ccdb1376c10bace8b7a13:10
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sdagueso, the reason for this is that until you are in ACTIVE the addresses could change (late fail that triggers a reschedule, possibility that you get different addresses)13:10
sfinucano/13:10
sdagueI think the point of deprecating was that we'd always do the hide until ACTIVE, right?13:11
gmannthis one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18414/13:11
sdaguegmann: yeh13:11
sdaguealex_xu: I agree, that policy point should go away, and that should just be the default13:11
gmannsdague: yea before ACTIVE, its not stable13:11
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alex_xusdague: cool13:12
sdaguegmann: right, but by default, if we have any content in there it's just passed up13:12
gmannyea13:12
alex_xubut I made a mistake, that cfg isn't deprecated, just the name deprecated... but it is also worth to deprecate that rule?13:12
sdaguesomeone should probably write down the desired behavior here, it honestly could be a light weight spec13:12
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sdaguealex_xu: yeh, I feel like that's one of those extensions that was added when it should have just been sane default behavior13:13
alex_xusdague: got it13:14
gmannok13:14
* alex_xu write a note, will bring this up when we review the api work items in next release13:15
gmannsdague: you mean to write a spec for cfg and policy deprecation with expected behavior13:15
sdaguegmann: yeh13:15
sdaguehonestly, it should be really straight forward13:15
gmannsdague: ok, ll add one for queue for next release13:16
sdagueI think we all have it in our head, but it should be written down13:16
gmannyea13:16
sdaguehonestly, you could do it this week to clarify, and we could get all the deprecations set now13:16
gmannsdague: sure.13:16
alex_xugmann: thanks13:17
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alex_xucdent: anything update for uwsgi?13:17
cdentno, at this stage I think the devstack change needs reviews, but that's about it: https://review.openstack.org/45771513:18
alex_xucdent: ah, thanks13:18
alex_xusdague: anything update from summit, if there is anything really something related nova api?13:19
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cdentI want to ask about some of the service catalog stuff13:20
cdentthere was a thread recently:13:20
sdaguealex_xu: honestly the only thing I've been working on since was the cross service request ids13:20
sdaguewhich is api related13:20
cdenthttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/116574.html13:20
alex_xusdague: got it13:20
sdaguehttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117367.html13:20
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cdentin which some people said they'd like to continue to be able to not use the service catalog13:21
cdentfor inter-service interactions13:21
cdentif we agree with that we'll need to make some adjustments to how the resource tracker (and others) call placement13:21
cdentto allow endpoint_override13:21
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sdaguecdent: how I read that issue was different13:21
sdaguethere are a class of data intensive APIs (glance is in that camp)13:22
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mriedemthis sounds like the spec efried is working on https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/pike/approved/use-service-catalog-for-endpoints.html13:22
cdentit's not certain/clear from the second message that data intensity is the only reason. it apears some people just want explicit control13:22
mriedemget endpoints in a generic way from the catalog but it allows for a backdoor override13:23
sdaguedirect addressing, and more specifically server lists, allows for flimsy HA and network path optimization13:23
cdentbut since the thread didn't really resolve I thought I would point out that that was the case13:23
sdaguethe thing that triggered it was getting rid bypassing the service catalog for glance13:23
gmannthis is to have different endpoints based on different catalog right? like v2 and v2.1 catlog on devstack side13:24
sdagueup until that point, people mostly didn't care13:24
sdaguegmann: no, it's the fact that something like glance many folks want to13:24
sdague1) optimize their paths from computes to glance, possibly very much at the rack level13:24
sdague2) turn off https for nova -> glance (but only for that case) which is a 35% performance boost13:25
alex_xuwow13:25
gmannhumm13:25
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sdague3) have some level of HA, which the api_servers list provides, as if we fail an op we pop to the next server and try again13:25
sdaguewhich is way less infrastructure than HA proxy, which is a performance bottleneck when you stick that in front of something trying to stream 100GB images13:26
alex_xuso it is about different compute node to access different api servers13:26
sdaguewell, specifically the glance ones13:26
sdagueand it might be the same servers, but a different network path13:26
cdentsdague: all that you say is true, but also that thread specifically says "In addition to the Glance to nova-compute use case, the feedback during the LDT session surfaced potential use cases for other services."13:27
sdaguecdent: sure13:27
cdentso at the moment there's some ambiguity that we'll need to resolve13:27
sdagueright, and that message didn't help clarify13:27
sdagueit would be good to figure out what "other use cases are"13:28
sdagueI totally get and understand the glance case13:28
cdentsorry, I'm clearly not getting my point across: we, nova, did not respond to that thread, so have left people hanging, we need to fix that. If nobody else wants to I can bump the thread with some additional questions13:28
sdaguecdent: sure, that sounds reasonable13:29
cdentk, will do13:29
sdagueit did also hit in the middle of summit13:29
cdent#action cdent to bump the service catalog philosophy thread13:29
mriedemwas this mdorman's thread?13:29
sdagueyes13:29
mriedemwhich was a revival of the old one13:29
mriedemok13:29
mriedemi can reply with a simple question,13:30
mriedemhave you read https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/pike/approved/use-service-catalog-for-endpoints.html and if so, does it suit your needs?13:30
cdentgoferit13:31
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alex_xucool13:32
alex_xuanymore question?13:32
alex_xuok13:32
alex_xu#topic open13:32
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alex_xugmann: you are an agenda?13:33
gmannyea13:33
alex_xus/are/have/13:33
gmannhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/169316813:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1693168 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Different APIs 'os-quota-class-sets' Response between v2 and v2.1" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to jichenjc (jichenjc)13:33
gmannwe have difference bug from v2 to v2.1 for quota class APIs13:33
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alex_xui guess nobody use the quota class API?13:34
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gmannthat happened due to 'os-server-group-quotas' extensions which i never knew before investigating this bug13:34
mriedemno one uses microversions :)13:34
gmannheh13:34
alex_xuhmmm13:34
gmannnobody complained about this yet so do not know how imp quota class API is :)13:34
alex_xumriedem: feedback from summit? still no one use microversion?13:35
mriedemalex_xu: clouds are just rolling up to or past mitaka,13:35
gmannor noone switched to v2.1 from v2?13:35
mriedemno one seems to know how users are using microversions13:35
mriedemmordred is just starting to look at microversions13:35
mriedemthe quota class API is how you get default quota information13:35
gmannmriedem: its in base v2.113:35
mriedemsince there is only one quota class, which is 'default'13:35
alex_xuok, so just waiting for a while...13:36
mriedembut i think if you also use os-quota-sets for a tenant id, you get default quotas too if there aren't any overrides13:36
mriedemfor the tenant i mean13:36
mriedemso,13:36
gmannyea, if not overridden13:36
mriedemto break this in v2.1 and then fix it in 2.46 or whatever seems wrong13:36
mriedemalthough anyone past 2.1 using this api would start getting different results13:37
gmannwe had same case with vif's net-id: break in v2.1 and fixed in i think 2.813:37
mriedemwe dropped the 2.0 code in newton?13:38
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sdagueso, the bug isn't super clear to me. This is that server_groups isn't in the key list?13:38
gmannmriedem: yes13:38
mriedemi'm just thinking of a case where the cloud isn't new enough to get this fix, but is new enough that you can't use 2.013:38
mriedem"if extension 'os-server-group-quotas' was enabled in v2, then 'server_groups' and 'server_group_members' were present in APIs response."13:38
alex_xusdague: yes13:39
sdaguebut we're not including those now13:39
gmannsdague:  yea, 2.1 never included those13:39
sdagueand half the world hates server groups?13:39
mriedembut NFV loves them13:39
mriedemwhich is 75% of openstack revenue :)13:39
alex_xusee the thread about drop retry, there are people use it out side NFV13:40
mriedemthat's the 25%13:40
sdaguealex_xu: that's assuming that all afinity is done with server groups13:40
sdagueyou can also do affinity at boot time13:40
mriedemaffinity with server groups is at boot time13:40
mriedemanyway,13:41
sdaguemriedem: a server group is created if you pass a scheduler hint during boot?13:41
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mriedemsdague: i'd have to dig, but it's irrelevant there isn't it13:41
mriedem*here13:41
sdagueyeh, sure13:42
sdaguejust trying to make sure I understand the scope of the problem13:42
gmannuser can still add/update the server groups quota but APi dpes not showing that back in quota class set APIs13:42
alex_xuhow much people use quota-class for setting default value?13:42
gmannquota set APIs has no issue13:42
sdaguegmann: right, that feels like a bug fix to go fix and backport13:42
gmannsdague: but backport till newton only, we have this since killo13:42
sdagueand a note in api-ref that some versions had a bug where those keys weren't shown, it was not intentional13:42
sdaguegmann: right, I get that13:43
gmanni see, api-ref clear doc can help13:43
sdagueyeh, make it as right as we can13:43
sdagueand explain in docs where we screwed up13:43
mriedemhold up,13:43
mriedemso we're going to start introducing new keys in the 2.1 response?13:43
sdaguemriedem: if by new you mean the keys that people already have13:44
mriedemalready have as of 2.013:44
gmannit can be interop issue ? few cloud return those keys and few not13:44
sdaguethat we document are there - https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=show-a-quota-detail13:44
mriedemthat link doesn't work13:44
sdaguehttps://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=show-a-quota-detail#show-a-quota13:45
mriedemthat's a different api13:45
mriedemalex_xu: to answer your question, we don't know how uses the quota classes api13:45
mriedemwe don't know how uses any api, or how much, or in what ways13:45
mriedem*who13:45
alex_xuyea...i see13:46
gmannseems like no api-ref  for quota class set13:46
mriedemthis is definitely a regression for anyone that had code that worked on 2.0 and now uses 2.113:46
sdagueok, I guess I didn't understand the bug13:46
mriedemif they needed those values13:46
mriedemyes there is no api-ref for quota classes apparently13:46
mriedemos-quota-sets is the tenant/user specific api13:46
mriedemquota classes sets the global defaults13:47
mriedemwhich sets a value in the db which overrides the default quotas in config13:47
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mriedemthe way we check for quota limits is (1) project-specific limits, (2) default quota class in db (3) config13:48
mriedemhttps://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/quotas.html#checking-quota13:48
mriedemanyway,13:48
mriedemwe seem to be inconsistent about saying when something needs a microversion or not13:49
mriedemas noted, we regressed the device tags stuff after 2.3213:49
mriedemthat was fixed in 2.42 https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api_microversion_history.html#maximum-in-ocata13:49
mriedemrather than bug fixing it into the regressed microversions13:49
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mriedemit makes for terrible ux, yes13:50
alex_xuif something break the cirtical feature, then we fix it without microversion13:50
mriedemalex_xu: do you have an example of that?13:50
gmannso we had similar issue in past with vif net-id we missed to add in v2.1 and fixed in 2.12 #link Ic8b26df8d7e69bd71d23dfbc983fa3449c16fa7d13:51
gmannand that was mainly for interop things13:51
sdaguethe fact that it's for this API (which isn't documented) instead of the one I thought it was on the user side means I'm less inclined to backport13:52
sdagueit's an admin API, the only change is the get13:52
mriedemright quota classes is only GET and PUT13:52
gmannyea13:52
sdagueand there is a way to update with the config and set things that way13:53
sdagueit's annoying that the read path is dumb13:53
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/policies/quota_class_sets.py13:53
sdagueI'd say that any fix should come with API docs13:53
mriedemi don't know what 'is_admin:True or quota_class:%(quota_class)s', is13:53
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mriedemdoes that mean, you can GET if you're admin or the quota_class is something you've defined in policy?13:53
sdaguemriedem: I honestly have no idea, it's policy, it's madness13:54
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mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/quota_classes.py#L6613:54
mriedemso id there is like 'default'13:54
mriedemthat's the only quota class we have13:54
gmannmriedem: i think so, admin or user defined ids for quota class in policy13:54
mriedemthere is no user-defined id13:54
mriedembtw, there is no way to list quota classes,13:55
mriedemthere is only 113:55
mriedemit is the alpha and omega13:55
mriedemunless you're rax probably13:55
* alex_xu can't find that example, as remember there is strict validation for the instance name13:55
mriedemanyway i don't know how that policy works, if it even does anything13:55
mriedemso,13:55
mriedemi think if you can still get the quota limits for those keys via os-quota-sets,13:56
alex_xu4 mins left13:56
mriedemwhich i think you can, but it would be good to confirm,13:56
mriedemthen we fix this is in os-quota-class-sets via microversion13:56
mriedemand document the workaround13:56
gmannmriedem: yea, i confirmed os-quota-set return those13:56
mriedemthe only difference is os-quota-sets is per-project13:57
mriedembut if you're the admin project, then that should be ok13:57
gmann#link https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/doc/api_samples/os-quota-sets/quotas-show-defaults-get-resp.json13:57
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mriedemok good13:57
mriedemi really need a devstack so i can poke at things like this13:57
mriedemnova quota-class-show default13:58
alex_xu2 mins left13:58
mriedemis the other thing to test13:58
mriedemas non-admin13:58
gmannyea, it took me while to confirm all this by taking mitaka branch and enabling that extension in v213:58
mriedemif someone has a devstack13:58
alex_xuso.. what is our decision?13:58
mriedemalex_xu: i think we document the workaround and fix os-quota-class-sets in a microversion13:58
mriedemsdague: gmann: ^ agreed?13:58
alex_xu50 sec for vote13:59
sdaguemriedem: yep, works for me13:59
gmannyea, ok for microversion13:59
mriedemi'll update the bug report13:59
gmannmriedem: thanks.13:59
alex_xuok...great13:59
alex_xuit is time to close the meeting, thanks all14:00
alex_xu#endmeeting14:00
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Jeffrey4l#startmeeting kolla16:01
openstackMeeting started Wed May 24 16:01:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Jeffrey4l. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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rwellumo/16:01
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Jeffrey4l#topic rollcall16:01
duonghqo/16:01
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Jeffrey4l since inc0 is absent today. i will hold today's meeting ;)16:02
hrw/°\o/°\o16:02
Jeffrey4l#topic announcement16:02
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Jeffrey4lany news from community?16:02
egonzalezsup o/16:02
Jeffrey4lguess we will have a short meeting today16:03
Jeffrey4lonly one topic on the meeting wiki page.16:03
Jeffrey4lsup egonzalez16:03
vhosakotI wil start contributing more again :)  sorry was away for a bit :)  I still use and love kolla every day :)16:03
duonghqvhosakot, glad to hear that16:03
spsurya_Jeffrey4l: yes only one16:03
Jeffrey4lvhosakot, cool welcome back16:03
rwellum+1 vhosakot16:04
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duonghqalso, nice to meet you in summit16:04
spsurya_vhosakot: +116:04
duonghqrwellum, you too16:04
rwellumcheers duonghq - same16:04
vhosakothowever I'll be on PTO tomorrow until June 6th :)  so, I'll come back after June 6th.16:04
Jeffrey4l#topic bp/ansible-specific-task-become (duonghq)16:04
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Jeffrey4lduonghq, yours16:04
duonghqthank Jeffrey4l16:05
duonghq#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+spec/ansible-specific-task-become16:05
duonghqthe bp is approved and started for awhile but I haven't pushed it so fast16:05
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duonghqcurrently, I'm finishing the gate logic16:05
duonghqhope that you guys can help me finish it.16:06
duonghqthere are 3 main ps16:06
duonghqstart with: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398682/1016:06
duonghqI'd like to get suggestion for Ansible logic16:06
Jeffrey4lcloud block simplify the number of "become"? http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/playbooks_blocks.html16:07
duonghqcan anybody give me a hand?16:07
duonghqJeffrey4l, sure, actually, nearly all become in config.yml (s)16:08
Jeffrey4lsure. will add this into my review queue16:08
duonghqI'll refactor my playbook16:08
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Jeffrey4lbefore that, we have to bump ansible version ;(16:08
duonghqthanks for your suggestion16:08
Jeffrey4lif we use block.16:08
duonghqiirc, we are already on >= 2.0?16:08
Jeffrey4lblocks is added since 2.1, iirc16:09
spsurya_duonghq: i will review it again and will see if i can provide some help to you16:09
duonghq"In 2.0 we added a block feature to allow for logical grouping of tasks and even in play error handling. " from your linke16:09
duonghqspsurya_, thanks16:09
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Jeffrey4laha, sorry. you are right.16:09
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duonghqI'll try to finish the bp soon and move quickly to implement project-specific logic for upgrading (as I and egonzalez, inc0 are doing for neutron and keystone)16:10
duonghqhope so16:10
Jeffrey4lcool.16:11
Jeffrey4lplease add these patch into your review queue.16:11
Jeffrey4lduonghq, anything else?16:11
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duonghqfor this topic: no16:12
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Jeffrey4lok. any other topic anyone wanna talk?16:12
egonzalezyep, i have one16:12
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Jeffrey4lplease.16:12
egonzalezfor zero downtime upgrades we need some services to be serialized, in ocata we removed default serial into kolla-ansible and cannot be overriden16:13
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Jeffrey4l#topic zero downtime upgrade16:13
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egonzalezcreated a PS to allow per service serial https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460090/16:13
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egonzalezif someone can take a look and provide feedback will be helpful16:14
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Jeffrey4lserial will not works as expected. at least for bootstrap stage/container.16:14
sdakeo/16:14
duonghqhi sdake16:15
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Jeffrey4lif you have 3 nodes. and run with serial: 30%, bootstrap container will run 3 times.16:15
Jeffrey4lwhereas 1 times is expected.16:15
Jeffrey4li think serial is more used for stateless service.16:16
egonzalezwill recheck that16:17
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Jeffrey4lok.16:17
egonzalezthanks Jeffrey4l16:17
Jeffrey4lnp ;)16:18
Jeffrey4lany other topic?16:18
Jeffrey4l#topic open discuss16:18
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Jeffrey4lor anything wanna to talk?16:18
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vhosakoto/ sdake just told the team I'll be back contributing again when I can.  sorry was away for a bit from kolla upstream.  I'll be on vacation from tomorrow until June 6th and will come back to contributing after June 6th FIYI.16:19
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spsurya_Jeffrey4l: I wanted to do bug traiging for kolla and kolla-ansible16:19
vhosakotplanning to help inc0 add more kolla gates may be.16:19
pbourkehi, sorry for lateness :)16:19
spsurya_as list is large of bug16:19
spsurya_Jeffrey4l:16:19
duonghqvhosakot, are you interested in upgrading gate (gate for upgrade procedure)16:20
spsurya_Jeffrey4l: i will be reporting the same in weekly meeting insome format16:20
vhosakotduonghq: well, we already run fare upgrade in gate now, don't we? :)16:20
vhosakotfare==fake*16:21
duonghqvhosakot, not well yet16:21
Jeffrey4lhmm, sorry do not got the point spsurya_16:21
vhosakotis this a real upgrade in gate -->  http://logs.openstack.org/60/467360/2/check/gate-kolla-dsvm-deploy-centos-binary-centos-7-nv/e93cc46/console.html#_2017-05-24_14_43_56_09943716:21
Jeffrey4lvhosakot, yes. just test the upgrade task works.16:21
duonghqvhosakot,  we also need gating for rolling upgrade16:21
spsurya_Jeffrey4l: I will be traiging the bugs open and recently logged bugs16:21
vhosakotah ok16:21
duonghqinc0 talked some ideas before16:22
spsurya_Jeffrey4l: so that we can minimize the count16:22
duonghqkind of functional gate16:22
spsurya_of open bugs16:22
vhosakotyeah inc0 said on-demand flag-based gates for upgrades few times a day.16:22
hrwspeaking of contributing...16:22
spsurya_Jeffrey4l: any suggestion on that16:22
Jeffrey4lspsurya_, roger. thanks.16:22
spsurya_?16:22
vhosakotwe don't need to run upgrade for every merge, should we?16:22
vhosakothrw: speak :)16:22
hrwI plan to get more time to do reviews on kolla16:22
duonghqvhosakot, should experimental gate16:22
rwellumhrw: +116:23
duonghqdue to this kind of gate take very long time to be done16:23
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hrwand finally start using them not only building16:23
Jeffrey4lthere is a page will be helpful to traigin bugs.16:23
vhosakotduonghq: right, on-demand experimental makes sense... cool16:23
spsurya_Jeffrey4l: yes seen that16:23
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hrwthe plan is to be able to apply for core dev one day ;D16:23
vhosakothrw: +116:23
spsurya_Jeffrey4l: and will follow the same16:23
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duonghqvhosakot, are you interested?16:23
Jeffrey4lspsurya_, this one http://kolla.betacloud.io/bugs-dashboard.html16:24
vhosakotduonghq: in what?16:24
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duonghqthe upgrading gate16:24
vhosakotduonghq: sure, but, as I said, I'm on vacation tomorrow until June 6th, and can start working on after June 6th/7th.. is it fine?16:24
Jeffrey4lhrw, cool.16:24
duonghqvhosakot, sure, I'll try to finish something first16:25
vhosakotduonghq: cool, thanks16:25
spsurya_Jeffrey4l: thanks, didn't seen that before . I was following this https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage16:25
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Jeffrey4lspsurya_, this page is useful ;)16:26
hrwJeffrey4l: can you #link it for notes?16:27
duonghqya, bug smashing16:27
Jeffrey4l#link http://kolla.betacloud.io/bugs-dashboard.html16:27
vhosakotcool link Jeffrey4l, did you create it?16:27
Jeffrey4lno.16:27
duonghqiirc, it's egonzalez ?16:27
Jeffrey4lit is Christian Berendt16:27
Jeffrey4lanything else?16:28
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berendtIs it still working? Have not checked the last weeks.16:29
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spsurya_Jeffrey4l: sdake duonghq egonzalez pbourke vhosakot and all. I will be relocating the to  my place :) in this weekdays/weekend. So I will not be available much in this week. So will be active from next week.16:29
pbourkecan someone please ack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463798/16:29
duonghqspsurya_, copied16:29
egonzalezspsurya_, cool16:29
Jeffrey4lroger.16:29
berendtWill read backlog, I am still on the road :-(16:29
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vhosakotpbourke: done, after a long break lol ;)16:30
pbourkevhosakot: thanks!16:30
duonghqberendt, long time no see you :(16:30
berendtBusy times :-(16:31
vhosakotduonghq: I'll ping for upgrade gates16:32
duonghqvhosakot, roger16:32
Jeffrey4lok. seem nothing to talk.16:32
Jeffrey4llet's end today's meeting.16:33
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Jeffrey4lthanks all for coming ;)16:33
Jeffrey4lhave a nice day/nice16:33
Jeffrey4lnight*16:33
duonghqya16:33
egonzalezthanks Jeffrey4l16:33
Jeffrey4l#endmeeting16:33
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duonghqthank you gúy16:33
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-05-24-16.01.html16:33
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rwellumThanks for hosting Jeffrey4l16:33
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-05-24-16.01.log.html16:33
spsurya_Jeffrey4l: great to hold the seat16:33
spsurya_+116:33
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hrwhtanks Jeffrey4l16:37
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