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alex_xu#startmeeting nova api13:00
openstackMeeting started Wed May  3 13:00:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)"13:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_api'13:00
johnthetubaguyo/13:00
alex_xuwho is here today?13:00
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mriedemo/13:01
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alex_xutoday is quiet, I think we just need quick go through the status13:02
alex_xu#topic priorities13:02
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alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/45771513:02
alex_xu^ i guess this is the last patch nova api via wsgi13:02
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alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/policy-docs13:03
mriedemyeah, the nova changes are merged or approved,13:03
mriedemthe grenade change has a +2,13:03
mriedemi can ask dansmith to take a look at the grenade patch when he's around13:03
alex_xumriedem: cool13:03
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alex_xumriedem: do you have the link for grenade change?13:03
mriedemalex_xu: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460543/13:04
alex_xumriedem: thanks13:04
johnthetubaguyah, I see, the depends-on for that devstack patch13:04
johnthetubaguymriedem: should we reach out to the new deployment team about this move? maybe thats been done already?13:05
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: was just thinking about pinging EmilienM for that13:05
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EmilienMo/13:06
alex_xuwhat is the new deployment team?13:06
johnthetubaguyEmilienM: wondering about the uwsgi stuff, and if you are are about it13:06
EmilienMalex_xu: it's a Working Group where Deployment tool projects work together13:06
alex_xuEmilienM: cool13:07
EmilienMjohnthetubaguy: I learnt about it yesterday13:07
EmilienMhow can TripleO help?13:07
EmilienMdo you want us to test the feature in Nova?13:07
mriedemEmilienM: we've said in the past that when we make changes to grenade that we should give the deployment teams a heads up, do you think this change warrants that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460543/ ?13:07
mriedemthat's needed for using uwsgi for nova in devstack on master https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457715/13:07
mriedemthis isn't a required change so i'd think we don't need to email the world about it13:08
sdaguemriedem: the grenade change is mostly a pin so we're not changing deployment infrastructure during upgrade13:08
johnthetubaguyEmilienM: its all part of this, basically: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/deploy-api-in-wsgi.html13:08
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EmilienMmriedem: yes this change is useful for us, I'll take action in TripleO and see what can we do on our side13:08
sdaguethe assumption is that upgrade happens first, then deployment changes post upgrade13:08
EmilienMplease keep pinging us on this kind of thing13:08
mriedemdo we need to email the ML about this?13:09
sdaguemriedem: about which thing?13:09
EmilienMmriedem: most probably, with [nova][deployment] tags if you could13:09
mriedemEmilienM: ok13:09
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EmilienMso deployment tools can learn about this information13:09
johnthetubaguysounds like a good plan13:10
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mriedemsdague: the note here https://docs.openstack.org/developer/grenade/readme.html#theory-of-upgrade13:10
mriedemthis isn't an exceptional upgrade change, but the fyi is good too i suppose13:10
sdaguemriedem: sure, I'm trying to understand what the issue is13:10
EmilienMmriedem: I agree, thanks13:11
sdaguethere are lots of pronouns (this) in the log here, but I lost the subject13:11
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/460543/13:12
mriedemthis ^13:12
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mriedemwe've just said in the past (ocata) that when making changes to grenade we'd inform the deployment teams13:12
mriedemspecifically for exception scripts like when we add something to a from_newton script,13:12
mriedemwhich isn't the case here,13:12
sdaguemriedem: ok, the subject is "change needed to grenade to bypass new default in devstack master?"13:12
mriedembut a courtesy fyi is ok too here13:13
mriedemlet's just move on13:13
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alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/policy-docs13:13
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sdagueok, I just want to make sure we don't confuse things more with people assuming they need to do something there13:13
alex_xuI guess all the patches for policy doc are ready13:14
sdaguethe actual deployer heads up is attempting to run wsgi by default13:14
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johnthetubaguyyeah, I plan on going through policy docs after the meeting13:15
alex_xuafter we merge those patches, we will know whether we stil left something13:15
alex_xus/stil/still/13:15
alex_xuthanks to gmann's help13:16
alex_xu#topic open13:16
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alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/api-no-more-extensions-pike13:16
alex_xua lot of patch for this also, thanks to jichen, gmann and Kevin_Zheng13:16
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sdaguelooks like a lot of test failures right now, any ideas on those?13:17
sdaguemost of them don't seem to be the live migration failure13:17
mriedemprobably the cells job13:17
mriedemthe cells job has been failing with unicodedecodeerror in the journal logger handler since we switched to systemd13:18
mriedemhttp://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#158072813:18
johnthetubaguyyeah, lots of cells failures I think13:18
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alex_xuI have seen a function test failure13:19
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alex_xuI will check whether we have bug for that later13:20
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alex_xuI also should take a look at other API impact BP, avoid all of those cleanup patch hide other stuff13:21
sdaguemriedem: oh, that's only on the cells job?13:22
alex_xuhere is the functional test failure http://logs.openstack.org/32/461732/2/check/gate-nova-tox-functional-ubuntu-xenial/83038b5/testr_results.html.gz13:24
johnthetubaguyseems a related on here I guess: http://logs.openstack.org/09/460509/3/gate/gate-nova-tox-functional-ubuntu-xenial/9ca81aa/console.html13:25
johnthetubaguy2017-05-03 11:52:15,349 WARNING [nova.scheduler.client.report] Unable to refresh my resource provider record13:25
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mriedemsdague: it shows up primarily in the cells v1 job,13:26
mriedemi have no idea why13:26
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: here is the bug for functional test https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/167480913:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1674809 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "test_create_server_with_pci_dev_and_numa functional test randomly fails with "OpenStackApiNotFoundException: Item not found"" [Medium,Confirmed]13:27
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alex_xuok, anything more we want to talk about?13:29
alex_xuI probably catch a time to take a look at that functional test failure13:29
alex_xuok, I guess no... next week probably most of people are in the summit, we probably just cancel the meeting13:30
alex_xu3...13:31
alex_xu2..13:31
alex_xu1.13:31
alex_xuthanks all, let us back to nova channel13:31
alex_xu#endmeeting13:31
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alexchadin#startmeeting watcher14:00
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Yumeng__Hi14:00
alexchadinToday's agenda is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#05.2F03.2F201714:01
licanweihi14:01
alexchadin#info OpenStack Summit starts next Monday! Time to complete presentations and prepare installation stand for Watcher onboarding.14:01
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alexchadinWe will need stand where we can show up how Watcher works14:02
alexchadinDo someone of you have Devstack with last version of Watcher?14:03
alexchadinwell I will do it14:04
hidekazualexchadin: i can prepare if single node with no dashboard14:04
alexchadinhidekazu: we will need at least two compute nodes (in virtual machines of course)14:04
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hidekazualexchadin: sorry i am not sure.14:05
acabot___hi, sorry for being late14:05
alexchadinhi acabot___14:05
alexchadinhidekazu: I will ask my colleagues to present some machines to us14:05
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hidekazualexchadin: thanks.14:06
alexchadinYumeng__: as I've said before, I will discuss your presentation tomorrow with you14:06
alexchadinYumeng__: I may just leave some comments on slides if it is suitable for you14:06
Yumeng__We have a three nodes, but doesn't work now. We are trying to recover them. Sorry can't help14:07
alexchadinYumeng__: no problem14:07
alexchadinmove on14:07
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alexchadin#info Spec Define grammar for workload characterization has been merged! Congratulations to Prashanth Hari, Chris Spencer and Susanne Balle!14:07
alexchadinit was really long-term spec14:07
alexchadinI'm glad we have approved it14:08
acabot___me too :-)14:08
sballe_+214:08
alexchadinSpec Add spec for Cinder model integration has been merged! Congratulations to Hidekazu Nakamura!14:09
alexchadin#info Spec Add spec for Cinder model integration has been merged! Congratulations to Hidekazu Nakamura!14:09
alexchadinhidekazu: congratulations!14:09
alexchadinThanks to all reviewers!14:09
acabot___sorry for my late reviews on all these specs14:09
hidekazuthanks reviewers.14:09
alexchadinlooks like previous week was week of spec merging ;)14:10
alexchadin#info Spec Audit tag in VM Metadata has been merged! Congratulations to Prashanth Hari!14:10
alexchadinhvprash: congratulations!14:11
alexchadinand the last one14:11
alexchadinSpec Add spec for cron based continuous audits has been merged!14:11
Yumeng__Congrats to all the contributors!14:11
alexchadinThanks to all reviewers from me :)14:11
hidekazualexchadin: congrats!14:11
acabot___now its time to code :-)14:11
alexchadinacabot___: as practice shows, it is easier than writing specs :)14:12
acabot___+114:12
sballe_+114:12
alexchadinI'd say, than approving specs14:12
acabot___we still have a lot of specs open14:13
alexchadingreat work, folks14:13
alexchadinso move on to them14:13
acabot___I hope the summit will be the place to improve them14:13
alexchadin#topic Review Action Items14:13
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alexchadinWatcher specs14:13
alexchadinBuild baremetal data model in watcher needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448016/14:13
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alexchadinYumeng__: have you seen comments hidekazu left for you?14:14
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vincentfrancoisehi14:14
vincentfrancoisesorry for being late14:14
alexchadinhi vincentfrancoise14:15
Yumeng__Yes , canwei's comments was what I wants to reply14:15
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Yumeng__I will discuss it with hidekazu tomorrow14:15
acabot___Yumeng__ you should probably look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450173/ for your spec14:15
acabot___it would be kind of the same kind of spec14:15
hidekazualexchadin: i missed comment from canwei, sorry.14:16
Yumeng__Thx acabot, I will have a look14:16
alexchadin#action Yumeng__ and hidekazu discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448016/ taking into account https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450173/14:16
alexchadinupdate action description needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459529/14:17
acabot___<alexchadin14:17
acabot___alexchadin do you have a BP for this ?14:18
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acabot___https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/dynamic-action-description14:18
alexchadinacabot___: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/dynamic-action-description14:18
alexchadinacabot___: I've missed filling it14:19
acabot___ I suppose (you should update the topic to bp/dynamic-action-description)14:19
alexchadinacabot___: yeah +114:19
alexchadinwho would like to review it?14:19
hidekazui will again.14:20
acabot___we already had a spec for it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/14:20
Yumeng__+114:20
hidekazuacabot___: yes, this will update approved spec.14:20
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acabot___ok its an update sorry14:21
acabot___I can review14:21
alexchadin#action acabot___ hidekazu review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459529/14:21
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alexchadinAdd spec for services-versioned-notifications-api bp needs core reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445817/14:22
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: Vladimir gave you an answer to your latest comment14:23
alexchadin#action alexchadin vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445817/14:24
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alexchadinAdd spec for Supporting HA for background jobs in Watcher needs core reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447996/14:24
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: ok I'll review it once more14:24
alexchadinhidekazu and licanwei already reviewed it14:25
alexchadinhidekazu, licanwei thanks a lot14:25
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: thx14:25
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alexchadinwho would like to review it?14:25
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vincentfrancoisealexchadin: I won't have much time before going to Boston to review things14:27
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: could you please review it again?14:27
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: so we can discuss all this over there14:27
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: ok let's discuss it together then14:27
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: I don't know if you said it since I wasn't here on time14:28
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: but do we cancel next week's meeting?14:28
sballe_alexchadin: I can review and will do so today14:28
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: I've planned to say it in the end of meeting14:28
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: oh ok14:28
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: BTW, I will do ML to openstack-dev channel14:29
alexchadinsballe_: thank you!14:29
alexchadin#action sballe_ vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447996/14:29
alexchadinNoisy Neighbor Strategy needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/14:30
alexchadinacabot___: can you review it?14:31
sballe_yes please and Pr and I are putting the last things togetehr for the summit14:31
sballe_s/Pru14:31
* sballe_ Pru == pshedimb14:31
alexchadinsballe_: should we mark it as WiP for now?14:32
sballe_no please review14:32
acabot___+114:33
sballe_the changes we are doing are to the code not the spec14:33
alexchadinsballe_: ah ok14:33
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alexchadin#action acabot___ alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/14:33
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alexchadinI have three students which will take some commits to finish them14:35
alexchadinlike Spec for noisy-neighbor-dashboard from Chris Spencer and functional tests for strategies14:35
acabot___great !14:35
vincentfrancoisenice :)14:35
alexchadinThey will go for it since 15 May due to their exams :)14:36
sballe_+214:36
sballe_great!14:36
alexchadinI will have hangouts with them to introduce them into contributing process14:36
alexchadinbut there are some things with this commits where I may not to know all things14:37
alexchadinso if you don't mind I'd like to send them to you if they have any questions14:37
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: I'm about functional tests14:38
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vincentfrancoisealexchadin: ah yeah, if I have time I'll help :)14:38
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: great!14:38
alexchadinmove on14:39
alexchadinWatcher14:39
alexchadinAdd Watcher JobStore for background jobs needs core reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449659/14:39
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: since you have already +2'd it, could you please do it again?14:39
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: ok14:40
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alexchadinvincentfrancoise: or bring it to workflow14:40
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vincentfrancoisealexchadin: done14:40
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: nice!14:40
alexchadinAdd action description notification needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454638/14:41
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alexchadinlicanwei: have you seen vincentfrancoise's comments?14:41
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licanweiyes14:43
licanweibut I have no time recently14:44
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alexchadinlicanwei: will you attend Summit?14:44
licanweiyes14:44
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alexchadinlicanwei: then we will discuss it there :)14:46
alexchadinVersioned Notifications for service object needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437333/14:46
licanwei:)14:46
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: let's discuss it on the Summit too14:46
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alexchadinwell, I hope he will be agreed :)14:47
alexchadinAdd action description needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450720/14:47
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vincentfrancois1alexchadin: yep14:47
alexchadinhidekazu: could you please review it?14:48
hidekazualexchadin: yes, i can14:48
alexchadin#action hidekazu review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450720/14:49
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alexchadinwell, we won't have next meeting due to Summit14:50
alexchadinI'd be glad to see you there!14:50
alexchadinDo you have any other announcements?14:51
hidekazuwhen will we have meeting in summit?14:51
acabot___I would suggest to meet on Monday evening14:52
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acabot___as the summit party is on Tuesday14:52
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alexchadinacabot___: you speak about dinner?14:53
hidekazuacabot___: you mean discussing or have dinner?14:53
alexchadinhidekazu: what did you mean? :)14:53
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sballe_I haven't found a place yet and I am thinking our best best is just to meet and go somwhere14:54
acabot___sorry I was speaking about dinner but we also need to schedule watcher meetings14:54
sballe_I spend some time in Boston last weekend and there are a lot of places we can go and given the schedule I suggest we just meet and go some plce14:54
hidekazualexchadin: when will we discuss about spec or something in hacking room?14:54
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alexchadinhidekazu: let me see14:55
sballe_oh just saw the party invite14:55
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hidekazualexchadin: i assumed we will have meeting other than onboarding.14:56
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alexchadinhidekazu: yeah, I'm looking for rooms14:56
alexchadinHynes, MR 10714:57
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alexchadinThis room will be free for all teams14:57
vincentfrancois1alexchadin: good :)14:58
alexchadinwe can gather there14:58
alexchadinhttps://ethercalc.openstack.org/Boston_Forum_Hacking_Rooms14:58
alexchadininformation here may be changed14:58
vincentfrancois1alexchadin: then the only thing left to decide are the time slots to meet14:58
alexchadinvincentfrancois1: let's discuss it on openstack-watcher channel now14:59
vincentfrancois1alexchadin: ok14:59
alexchadinthank you for attending14:59
alexchadinbye!14:59
hidekazualexchadin: vincentfrancois1: ok, bye14:59
acabot___ok bye14:59
vincentfrancois1see you next week ;)14:59
adisky_bye14:59
alexchadin#endmeeting15:00
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serverascode#startmeeting operators_telco_nfv15:02
openstackMeeting started Wed May  3 15:02:55 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is serverascode. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:02
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:02
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ad_rien_o/15:03
serverascode#topic roll call15:03
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ad_rien_o/15:03
serverascodesorry I started this in the wrong room15:03
serverascode*sigh*15:03
SergeMhello15:03
serverascodead_rien_ it was like I was just talking to you :)15:03
serverascodehi SergeM15:03
serverascodeanyone else here for the ops/telecom nfv meeting?15:04
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serverascodeok so far looks like just the 3 of us15:04
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serverascodeI'll give it another minute15:05
serverascode#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-telco-nfv-meeting-agenda15:05
serverascodeif anyone has anything to add to the agenda15:05
serverascodeI only have one real item15:05
serverascode#topic boston sessoin15:06
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serverascodewe agreed last week what we would put on the agenda for boston, so I think we are good there unless someone has an additiona item to ad15:06
serverascode*add15:06
serverascodeok nothing so far :)15:07
jamemccHi15:07
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SergeManything about The Forum. Not sure myself, asking...15:07
serverascodelet me find the ethercalc15:08
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serverascodehi jamemcc :)15:08
serverascode#link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/=qqdo5sfmri15:08
serverascodethat was the forum sessions that were related to NFV and some were chosen and some were not15:08
serverascodeso the boston session I'm talking about is this one15:09
ad_rien_sorry serverascode what is the ethercalc?15:09
serverascodelink: http://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/17636/openstack-operators-telecomnfv-working-group-session15:09
serverascodethe ethercalc was where we were listing some of the NFV related forum sessions15:09
serverascodethe ones that were suggested, some were accepted some not15:09
ad_rien_ok thanks15:10
ad_rien_what about that session too: https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18753/collaboration-between-telecomnfv-related-groups15:10
serverascoderight, was just looking for the etherpad for that15:10
serverascodelink# https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-telecom-nfv-collaboration15:10
serverascodeand then I created an etherpad for our (not forum) session15:11
serverascodehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-ops-telecom-nfv15:11
serverascodelink# https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-ops-telecom-nfv15:11
serverascodeso if you haven't taken a look at  the collaboration, please do and add your comments15:11
serverascode*collaboration session15:12
serverascodeshould be an interesting session :)15:12
serverascodeand that is all I know about the summit/forum :)15:13
jamemccYeah - good - agreed that's our shared duty as members of this WG - to make that session good15:13
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serverascodejamemcc how are things going with the LCOO?15:14
serverascodemostly requirements gathering type work so far?15:15
jamemccYou and Adrien are in this presenation - you must know about it as well:15:15
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jamemcchttps://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18076/15:15
serverascodeyeah we were working on that this morning :)15:17
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jamemccLCOO - yeah we are trying to get into the Joint Requirements writing mode:  Big areas for us and we are trying to identiy and contribute to sessions in Boston are in Cotnainerized Control Plan, Destructive Testing, Skip Level Upgrades - Nirvana Stack15:17
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serverascodeDestructive Testing, I like it :) will have to read up on that15:18
SergeMcontainerized control plane - can you point me to that session(s)?15:18
jamemccIn general it means your Cloud seems to be runign well then start pulling pieces down and see if it can keep going15:18
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SergeMchaos monkey?15:19
serverascodewas just going to say that :)15:19
jamemccYeah15:19
serverascodewhere are people going to be spending most of their time at the summit? forum? presentations? other?15:20
serverascodea mix of everything?15:20
jamemccTrying to get our requreiments in place before we get to far into solutioning - very aware there are good solutions15:20
serverascodejamemcc are you going to try to do the table thing you did at the operators meetup?15:22
serverascodewhere LCOO people hung around the same area15:22
jamemccAnyone interested to help us - main session to work is this one:15:22
jamemcchttps://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18777/users-operators-adoption-of-qa-tools-plugins15:22
jamemccWe didnt' get a Forum Session specifically on the topic15:22
jamemccIt really is a mix: though our desire is to do real work in the Forums15:23
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jamemccThe Presenations in my mind and the way we are tracking them as LCOO are really to get some ideas outr there and then hopefully tracnsition any Q&A to point out the Forum session (or WG) to take the conversation to15:24
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serverascodeok, cool15:25
serverascodeany other thoughts or should I move onto the next topic?15:25
jamemccWe have an LCOO plannign pad here: You need to hve an Atlassian Cloud Account - but shouldn't be any problem to see it: https://openstack-lcoo.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LCOO/Large+Contributing+OpenStack+Operators++Queens+Forum+Planning+Pad15:25
serverascode#link  https://openstack-lcoo.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LCOO/Large+Contributing+OpenStack+Operators++Queens+Forum+Planning+Pad15:26
jamemccThanks15:26
serverascodenp, I messed up a couple links above lol15:26
serverascodeok onto the other topic, then open discussion15:27
serverascode#topic Documentation Meetup15:27
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serverascodebasically I would like to propose that we have some kind of in person documentation meeting perhaps co-located with another event15:27
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serverascodesuch as the openstack operators meetup in Aug in Mexico or similar15:28
serverascodeand that we could have some discussions next week and perhaps get some foundation help on taht15:28
serverascodemostly around this #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/generic-nfv-platform15:28
ad_rien_serverascode:  can you elaborate a bit more15:28
ad_rien_ok15:29
ad_rien_thanks15:29
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serverascodeI know that shintoro was talking to someone from the foundation and there is some interest in NFV documentation15:29
serverascodeand also the fact that there is no current multi-region/site docs AFAIK15:29
serverascodeI know we don't have a lot of people in the meeting today, but I just htought I would float that idea15:30
ad_rien_did they  put back the previous documentation ?15:30
serverascodeI don't think so, but haven't checked in a couple weeks15:30
jamemccYeah I agree we need to have more of working sessions to advance it and that this WG is the right place15:30
serverascodethey used to do documentation sprints15:31
serverascodewhere they'd meetup for a few days and just write docs15:31
serverascodeI think it might be something good to do15:31
serverascodewhere "they" is the openstack community15:31
serverascodeit would be nice at some point to get a bunch of NFV openstack people in a room together :)15:32
serverascodethough that said I'm not sure what groups like the LCOO are doing in that area, and essentially OPNFV is a big version of that15:32
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serverascodeI might get in contact with Shintaro and see what he thinks15:33
serverascodeis anyone interested in being part of an attempt to organize?15:33
jamemccYeah - maybe we need to hve a plannign session for the face to face first15:33
serverascodeabsolutely :)15:33
jamemccShintaro and I can try to bring others from LCOO15:33
SergeMI wouldnt mind being involved. But probably I would not be able to attend any F2Fs15:34
serverascodethanks SergeM :)15:34
jamemccI'm sure OPNFV lads will come to talk about what they've already got and how it might fit into their plans15:34
serverascodejamemcc should we try to find a time (somehow) next week to discuss?15:34
jamemccleads (not lads)15:34
SergeMI am also wondering how this doc effort differs from OPNFV. Where OPNFV is trying to get reqs and then fill any gaps within OpenStack projects15:34
serverascodeI agree SergeM, to me it doesn't matter much where the docs live as long as they exist and are accessible :)15:35
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serverascodeactually I was pointed to some great multisite docs last week from the OPNFV15:36
SergeMIf you have any casual meetup sometime during next week, keep me in the loop. My email is on the pad15:36
jamemccYes - I'll send a note to the OPNFV leads I know and copy you in attempt to have a plannign session in Boston - if not maybe at least to come to a subsequent session15:36
serverascodeok, that sounds great jamemcc :)15:36
SergeMthanks15:36
serverascodeok, great, so we will start with that and see where it goes next week15:36
serverascodeany other thoughts on that particular subject or I can move onto open discussion?15:37
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serverascodeI'll give it 30 seconds15:37
serverascode:)15:37
serverascode#topic open discussion15:38
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serverascodeso that was all I had so far15:38
serverascodeany open discussion ideas/comments/criticisms? :)15:38
ad_rien_nothing from my side15:38
serverascodeeveryone's mind is in next week already :)15:39
ad_rien_I hope we will find a fruitful way to converge all these efforts around mutli site deploymensts15:39
ad_rien_during the next summit15:39
SergeMThanks. Hope to meet you guys next week.15:39
serverascodeyeah I hope so too, its an important topic15:39
serverascodethanks SergeM :)15:39
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serverascodeok well, thanks everyone for coming today, have a safe trip to the summit if you are going, and hopefully see you there :)15:40
jamemccI appreciate you both taking that lead, will do al I can to help.15:40
jamemccSee you there15:40
serverascodethanks jamemcc!15:40
serverascode#endmeeting15:40
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