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| rosmaita | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, alex_bash | 13:59 |
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| rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 9 14:00:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| sigmavirus | o/ | 14:00 |
| dharinic | \o | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | let's wait another minute before sigmavirus gives his update | 14:02 |
| sigmavirus | heh | 14:02 |
| sigmavirus | I'll update all two of you ;) | 14:02 |
| sigmavirus | Let's wait until 5 after | 14:02 |
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| rosmaita | 5 after works for me | 14:03 |
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| rosmaita | still just us | 14:05 |
| hemanthm | o/ | 14:05 |
| sigmavirus | Anyone else here for the meeting? | 14:05 |
| sigmavirus | jokke_: ? | 14:05 |
| sigmavirus | okay then | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | he's been late the past few weeks, i think he has a meeting right before this one | 14:05 |
| * sigmavirus shakes fist at that other meeting | 14:05 | |
| aavraham | I o | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | hang on a sec sigmavirus | 14:06 |
| aavraham | I'm Here | 14:06 |
| * sigmavirus holds on | 14:06 | |
| sigmavirus | hi aavraham | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | #chair sigmavirus rosmaita | 14:06 |
| openstack | Current chairs: rosmaita sigmavirus | 14:06 |
| * sigmavirus hides | 14:06 | |
| rosmaita | that way you can add action items | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:06 |
| aavraham | sigmavirus: Hi | 14:06 |
| sigmavirus | I think anyone can add #actions | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | or items or topics or whatever | 14:06 |
| sigmavirus | fair | 14:06 |
| sigmavirus | Should we proceed? | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | maybe 2 more min | 14:06 |
| sigmavirus | sure | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | we have some people rolling int | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | *in | 14:07 |
| hemanthm | Is there a set quorum for the meetings usually? | 14:07 |
| sigmavirus | hemanthm: nope | 14:07 |
| dharinic | Winter mornings.. | 14:07 |
| sigmavirus | That'd only be a problem if we ever #vote'd on stuff | 14:07 |
| sigmavirus | =P | 14:07 |
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| hemanthm | :) | 14:07 |
| sigmavirus | We never vote because we are one hive mind controlled by the inimitable rosmaita | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | we can vote on whether we need to have more votes | 14:07 |
| * nikhil sneaks in | 14:07 | |
| sigmavirus | A former PTL, current PTL, and release CPL walking into a meeting channel ... | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | erno! | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | ok, now we can start | 14:08 |
| sigmavirus | #topic Release Updates | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:08 | |
| sigmavirus | We successfully released Ocata RC1 with Experimental Rolling Upgrades and CI work! (Good job alex_bash, dharinic, hemanthm, nikhil, rosmaita, et. all) | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | sorry ... connectivity issues getting to my irc node | 14:08 |
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| sigmavirus | Please tag all glance bugs with "ocata-rc-potential" on LaunchPad and ping sigmavirus or rosmaita in IRC about them | 14:09 |
| sigmavirus | If no bugs are found in RC-1, 14.0.0 will be released as the same version as RC-1. | 14:09 |
| sigmavirus | If we have bugs to fix, then we'll need to create further Release Candidate releases (RC-2, RC-3, etc.) until we reach the deadline or agree that an RC is stable enough for the 14.0.0 tag | 14:09 |
| sigmavirus | The next bit is important: | 14:09 |
| sigmavirus | NOTE: Just because a bug affects Ocata RC1 does not immediately imply it has RC potential | 14:09 |
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| sigmavirus | In other words, there are few bugs that some of you are actively working on | 14:09 |
| sigmavirus | They may be valid backports to Ocata, but that doesnt' mean they're RC-potential | 14:09 |
| sigmavirus | Ideally RC-potential bugs are bugs that were introduced just this cycle just before RC-1 was tagged | 14:10 |
| sigmavirus | OR | 14:10 |
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| sigmavirus | They're bugs that are hugely impactful to Glance and its users | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | for rc-potential we're looking for a showstopper or what sigmavirus just said | 14:10 |
| sigmavirus | Thanks for using clearer words, rosmaita :) | 14:10 |
| nikhil | (release critical) | 14:10 |
| sigmavirus | Finally, We're also still waiting for openstack/requirements to create their stable/ocata branch. The release team ran into problems yesterday/last night with grenade, devstack, and the requirements repos but that should be done now and they should be branching today | 14:11 |
| sigmavirus | ^ nikhil that's especially for you and me since we seem to be doing the bulk of stable reviews lately | 14:11 |
| nikhil | Ack | 14:11 |
| sigmavirus | And yes, "RC-potential bugs" means "Release Candidate bugs that are Release Critical" | 14:12 |
| sigmavirus | RC bugs are only RC bugs if they're RC ;) | 14:12 |
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| sigmavirus | Any questions? | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | yes | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | anything critical on the pipe right now? | 14:13 |
| sigmavirus | not that I've seen | 14:13 |
| sigmavirus | might have missed something though | 14:13 |
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| hemanthm | We are treating this as RC? https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1516706 | 14:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1516706 in Glance "Glance v1 API makes requests to the v2 registry " [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Dharini Chandrasekar (dharini-chandrasekar) | 14:14 |
| nikhil | meh | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | i think stevelle was arguing that it's pretty impactful | 14:14 |
| nikhil | It's a medium level bug | 14:14 |
| nikhil | Oh | 14:14 |
| sigmavirus | Where is steve? | 14:15 |
| sigmavirus | Oh right, he's west coast | 14:15 |
| hemanthm | Yeah, the default config is broken | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | west coast time | 14:15 |
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| sigmavirus | It's still 6:15AM there | 14:15 |
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| jokke_ | I don't see how over year old bug is suddenly release critical | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | let's take an action item for some of us to meet in #openstack-glance later today to talk this one over | 14:15 |
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| sigmavirus | jokke_: I agree | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: people are suddenly noticing | 14:15 |
| nikhil | I don't think it warrants a RC | 14:16 |
| sigmavirus | Right | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: good for them. We can the backport the fix to stable branches if it one day lands | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | what's the advantage of not including it in the RC? | 14:16 |
| sigmavirus | jokke_: Right. I think we can focus on fixing master, then prepare the fix for stable/ocata immediately after 14.0.0 is released | 14:16 |
| sigmavirus | As well as stable/newton | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | ++ | 14:17 |
| sigmavirus | rosmaita: so I think the benefits/advantages are slim either way | 14:17 |
| sigmavirus | That said, further RCs are usually scrutinized closely by the Release Team | 14:18 |
| sigmavirus | (As well as the Stable Branch team) | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | well, plus we've all been testing RC-1 | 14:18 |
| nikhil | The bug doesn't seem to have a fixed direction/resolution yet. I wouldn't recommend rushing into things | 14:18 |
| sigmavirus | And so including a bug that has affected glance for this long in RC-2 might not be the best thing | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | don't want to destabilize it | 14:18 |
| hemanthm | nikhil: dharinic and I working on it. Expect a patch today | 14:19 |
| sigmavirus | rosmaita: ostensibly a bug fix with sufficient testing wouldn't destabilize RC-1 but yes, having several RCs create the perception that the previous RC was not stable or suitable | 14:19 |
| sigmavirus | *Technically* that's true because this bug causes problems | 14:19 |
| sigmavirus | But that's also true of current stable releases and thus this isn't that high of a release priority for Ocata | 14:19 |
| nikhil | sigmavirus: well... | 14:20 |
| nikhil | It affects v1 more/significantly | 14:20 |
| nikhil | So I'm not so sure about its level of importance | 14:20 |
| sigmavirus | nikhil: that's also true | 14:20 |
| sigmavirus | There are several factors here | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: which way are you thinking? more or less important? | 14:21 |
| dharinic | cos it is v1. :D | 14:21 |
| nikhil | :) | 14:21 |
| nikhil | Less | 14:21 |
| * nikhil nods at dharinic | 14:21 | |
| sigmavirus | We're horrible parents for not caring for our v1 child ;) | 14:21 |
| nikhil | Lol | 14:22 |
| dharinic | I was not born when v1 was born :P | 14:22 |
| hemanthm | We don't know for sure if everyone moved from V1. | 14:22 |
| sigmavirus | dharinic: how young of a python prodigy are you? =P | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | actually, we know for sure that everyone has NOT | 14:22 |
| jokke_ | I'm actually not convinced that bug is critical enough to fix at all :) | 14:22 |
| nikhil | Feels as if sigmavirus has a clone child | 14:22 |
| sigmavirus | hemanthm: right, but we have had it as deprecated for oer one cycle | 14:22 |
| dharinic | you shall see sigmavirus ;) | 14:22 |
| sigmavirus | dharinic: I'm not going to the PTG, so maybe not =P | 14:22 |
| hemanthm | sigmavirus: sure, that means nothing if it still has a ton of users | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | The API it's affecting is deprecated and I fail to see how that bug is so critical that we need to fix it ;) | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | well, that's why i'd like to discuss with stevelle | 14:23 |
| dharinic | stevelle was mentioning yesterday that heat and other projects still use v1 | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | he had me convinced yesterday that it was key to fix | 14:23 |
| sigmavirus | So | 14:23 |
| hemanthm | apparently cinder uses v1 too? | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | but now his arguments escape me | 14:23 |
| sigmavirus | I'll say this much: I'm in favor of fixing it. I'm even in favor of backporting the fixes. I'm not in favor of fixing it for an RC-2 | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: what is the rest of your day like? do you have 10 min later today, say in 3 hours or so? | 14:24 |
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| jokke_ | rosmaita: the sooner the better, but today is looking pretty good | 14:24 |
| sigmavirus | My reason for bringing up V1 status is that it does affect the priority of this wok | 14:24 |
| sigmavirus | *work | 14:24 |
| dharinic | cool. I will put up a patch. We can appropriately merge it whenever it is cool then. :) | 14:24 |
| hemanthm | sigmavirus: fair enough, I can see that argument. steve was mentioning yday that it was breaking OSA | 14:25 |
| nikhil | == sigmavirus | 14:25 |
| hemanthm | If it's breaking OSA, i'd be a bit more worried | 14:25 |
| sigmavirus | hemanthm: so this is the first I've heard that it's breaking OSA | 14:25 |
| sigmavirus | And OSA is but one deployment project | 14:25 |
| sigmavirus | So I'd be extra concerned if this was affecting *all* the deployment projects | 14:25 |
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| sigmavirus | If kolla, chef-openstack, and triple-o are all having the same problems that'd definitely bump the prio for me | 14:26 |
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| sigmavirus | Maybe andymccr can explain how severely this is affecting OSA? | 14:26 |
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| hemanthm | anything building glance out of the default config should fail (and have quotas configured) | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | well tripleO moved to v2 | 14:26 |
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| sigmavirus | I thought OSA had moved to v2 too but I guess not | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus | I guess they only follow upstream when convenient? | 14:28 |
| sigmavirus | Anyway, we have other topics on the agenda | 14:28 |
| sigmavirus | We've spent almost 10 min on this | 14:28 |
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| rosmaita | well, light agenda today | 14:28 |
| sigmavirus | True, but we have other things that might generate more discussion | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | let's meet in openstack-glance at 17:30 | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | utc | 14:28 |
| * sigmavirus loaded the agenda purposefully | 14:28 | |
| andymccr | hey sorry just catching up on the above - im not too sure how breaking the change is - we do use v2 api (and v1) i believe the issue relates to other projects only integrating with v1. i could be wrong. | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | andymccr: ty | 14:29 |
| andymccr | as far as im aware its not breaking our integrated builds - but i do remember stevelle mentioning some things so unfortunately he would be the best person to talk to. | 14:29 |
| sigmavirus | Thanks andymccr | 14:29 |
| andymccr | i'll try follow up with him, and between us we'll get back to you | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | ok, does 17:30 work for jokke_ sigmavirus nikhil dharinic hemanthm ? | 14:30 |
| sigmavirus | WFM | 14:30 |
| hemanthm | rosmaita: yes | 14:30 |
| dharinic | yes rosmaita | 14:30 |
| nikhil | Sure | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: too late for you? | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | I'll make it work | 14:30 |
| sigmavirus | jokke_: makes everything work :) | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | i appreciate that, we'll keep it short | 14:31 |
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| jokke_ | sigmavirus: just matter of taking bigger hammer ;) | 14:31 |
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| rosmaita | #action rosmaita hemanthm jokke_ dharinic nikhil sigmavirus stevelle to meet in #openstack-glance at 17:30 UTC today to discuss whether bug is RC candidate or should hold off for backport to stable branch | 14:31 |
| sigmavirus | heh | 14:32 |
| sigmavirus | Move on then? | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | dharinic: do you have a link to the bug handy? | 14:32 |
| dharinic | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1516706 | 14:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1516706 in Glance "Glance v1 API makes requests to the v2 registry " [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Dharini Chandrasekar (dharini-chandrasekar) | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | ty | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1516706 | 14:32 |
| sigmavirus | #topic Bugs, Reviews, and Other Things of Note | 14:32 |
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| rosmaita | #action rosmaita shoot stevelle an email about meeting | 14:32 |
| sigmavirus | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance-store/+bug/1297451 | 14:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1297451 in glance_store "Image uploads to the filesystem driver are not fully atomic" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Srinivas Sakhamuri (srinivas-sakhamuri) | 14:33 |
| sigmavirus | So that bug has a fix but needs to be fixed up and re-reviewed it seems | 14:33 |
| sigmavirus | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242084/ | 14:33 |
| sigmavirus | This is a feature, that would likely be really great to have for Pike | 14:34 |
| sigmavirus | (And Pike development should open up at some point today) | 14:34 |
| sigmavirus | Any cores want to commit to getting that through? | 14:35 |
| dharinic | I can review. | 14:36 |
| sigmavirus | (Believe it or not, people do use the filesystem store in production) | 14:36 |
| nikhil | And with NFS!!! | 14:36 |
| sigmavirus | #action dharinic to review and help work on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242084/ | 14:36 |
| sigmavirus | nikhil: I know | 14:36 |
| hemanthm | Do we need a lite-spec for that? | 14:37 |
| sigmavirus | I wasn't sure about that honestly | 14:37 |
| sigmavirus | rosmaita: thoughts? | 14:37 |
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| jokke_ | that actually makes quite a bit of sense | 14:37 |
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| jokke_ | I mean using that combo | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | not sure about the lite spec tbh, this is only back end related change, right? | 14:38 |
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| sigmavirus | jokke_: Yeah, for features we've been doing lite specs semi-formally | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | well, my thought is that it would be nice to get this fixed eventually | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | so before looking into the change, how intrusive it is? | 14:38 |
| nikhil | It's pretty important | 14:39 |
| sigmavirus | it adds a new config option | 14:40 |
| sigmavirus | And it dramatically changes how things are saved | 14:40 |
| hemanthm | jokke_: from what I read, looks like it doesn't impact glance as such | 14:40 |
| sigmavirus | FIrst to a temp location then to the permanent | 14:40 |
| sigmavirus | It may impact operators though | 14:40 |
| sigmavirus | in other words, they'll have to consider how they configure glance to store things when using the filesystem store | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | yeah just looking it | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | and honestly I really don't like the idea of that new config option. Like seriously? | 14:41 |
| hemanthm | sigmavirus: I'm wondering is it perhaps a one operator change? | 14:42 |
| sigmavirus | hemanthm: how do you mean? | 14:42 |
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| hemanthm | From the bug description, it looks like the reason for that change is some off-the-band stuff not working well with current setup | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | yeah, looks like dark data left in filesystem store | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | so is the question whether this needs a lite-spec? | 14:44 |
| hemanthm | whatever that off-the-band stuff is, does it warrant a change in glance ? | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | and how about identifying those corner cases and fixing them rather than introducing yet another place where it might leave hanging | 14:45 |
| hemanthm | jokke_: +1 | 14:45 |
| nikhil | In case config being essential | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | yeah, i'm with erno, this seems to be incomplete | 14:45 |
| sigmavirus | Awesome | 14:45 |
| sigmavirus | #action jokke_ to help dharinic flesh this out better | 14:45 |
| sigmavirus | (rosmaita made me a chair, so I'm using my chair to voluntell people ;)) | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | also last activity on that bug was as well over a year old and original author abandoned it two years ago. Is that still even valid issue for anyone? | 14:46 |
| sigmavirus | jokke_: must be if someone has bothered fixing it and keeping the patch rebased | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | rebased on feb 3 by original author | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | good point | 14:47 |
| sigmavirus | right, people don't do that just to get a contribution. They do that if it is affecting them and they don't know how to lobby us | 14:47 |
| sigmavirus | I found this going through the glance-store's open bugs and cleaning them up | 14:47 |
| dharinic | actually, there is another patch thats not even abandoned. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82899/5 | 14:47 |
| sigmavirus | Seemed important enough to not wantonly close | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | dharinic: jokke_ : reach out to srinivas and see if he'll put up a lite spec with you | 14:47 |
| dharinic | same changes. | 14:47 |
| sigmavirus | dharinic: that is abandoned :) | 14:47 |
| sigmavirus | Also metacloud no longer exists =/ | 14:48 |
| dharinic | oops. | 14:48 |
| sigmavirus | OpenStack's history is littered with failed startups | 14:48 |
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| rosmaita | ok on that note let's move to the next topic | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | #topic PTG planning | 14:49 |
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| sigmavirus | wait | 14:49 |
| sigmavirus | aw | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | oops | 14:49 |
| sigmavirus | #undo | 14:49 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic PTG planning | 14:49 |
| sigmavirus | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217282/ | 14:49 |
| sigmavirus | That also seemed semi-valuable/important | 14:49 |
| sigmavirus | We can move on though | 14:49 |
| sigmavirus | We only have 10 min left | 14:49 |
| sigmavirus | #topic PTG Planning | 14:49 |
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| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-pike-ptg-planning | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | I will be adding a lot of stuff this weekend, but there's a list of topics at the bottom of the etherpad to give you an idea | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | we'll discuss image import on all 3 days | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | yeiii! | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | interspersed with other topics, of course | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | but it touches almost all aspects of glance | 14:51 |
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| rosmaita | i should be clear about what we are discussing, though | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | the spec has been approved, it's been through review by the interop group, api-wg, us (of course), infra, etc | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | so we aren't going to argue about what the calls should look like or what the acceptable workflow is ... that's been settled. What i'll be asking is for you to exercise your creativity within the bounds of what we've already agreed | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | and here's what we've agreed: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/glance-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/image-import/image-import-refactor.html | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | you notice 'mitaka' in the URL there ... you can see we're a little late delivering this | 14:51 |
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| jokke_ | and written ;) | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | i discuss that and how i want to handle getting this done in Pike in my election statement, which i imagine no one read, so in the spirit of DRY, here's a link: | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/election/plain/candidates/pike/Glance/rosmaita.txt | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | also, image import is a blocker for us to finally decommission v1 | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | ok, back to the PTG ... this will be different from a "normal" design summit because we have 2.5 full days to do glance stuff (unlike previous design summits, where we had 5 40min sessions to discuss/agree on things) | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | so we'll really be able to get a lot done on Wednesday through Friday | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | but for now, let's talk logistics | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | this is more like rescheduled mid-cycle | 14:52 |
| nikhil | (lol, but I read it) | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | for instance, who is going and what days will you be in atlanta? please put your info at the top of the PTG etherpad | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | also, what times do we want to work? | 14:53 |
| * jokke_ will be there Sun-Sat | 14:53 | |
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| rosmaita | 9:30am-12:30, lunch, pick back up at 2, go 2-6:00pm ? | 14:54 |
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| jokke_ | sounds like horribly long lunch | 14:54 |
| nikhil | Works for me | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | anyway, if you have strong preferences, let me know, otherwise i will just make stuff up | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: my experience with lunch is that it takes about 20min to get people out of the session | 14:55 |
| nikhil | Well... | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | i think we have to leave for lunch, nothing is provided | 14:55 |
| nikhil | And there are lunch meetings | 14:55 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: I'd prefer 0900-1200; 1300-1700 ;) | 14:55 |
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| nikhil | I may need at least 2 hours for lunch | 14:56 |
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| rosmaita | i'll ask around what hte other teams are doing for lunch | 14:56 |
| nikhil | Especially now that my primary responsibilities are more than glance | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | also, we should have dinner as a team ... unfortunately, we will have to pay ourselves, no sponsors for dinner | 14:57 |
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| jokke_ | Liquid lunch and dinner :D | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | every day | 14:57 |
| nikhil | Or I may skip a afternoon | 14:57 |
| sigmavirus | heh | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | you can use one of those camelpaks and you won't have to leave the room | 14:57 |
| hemanthm | haha | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | ok, i'll get a preliminary schedule up this weekend and send to the ML when it's there | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | people can comment, suggest adjustments | 14:58 |
| * jokke_ spent just weekend in Fosdem where the beer was available from breakfast and it was super good :D | 14:58 | |
| rosmaita | we can be flexible | 14:58 |
| nikhil | 1 min left | 14:59 |
| sigmavirus | yep | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:59 |
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| sigmavirus | heh | 14:59 |
| dharinic | Wanted to bring this up.. Can I please have some reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120866/ | 14:59 |
| sigmavirus | QUICK 30s left | 14:59 |
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| rosmaita | dharinic: noted | 14:59 |
| dharinic | Buffered reader. | 14:59 |
| dharinic | Thanks. :) | 14:59 |
| sigmavirus | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120866/ | 14:59 |
| nikhil | ta-tah | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 9 15:00:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-02-09-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-02-09-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-02-09-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| sjmc7 | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 9 15:00:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:00 |
| lei-zh | o/ | 15:01 |
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| sjmc7 | good morning | 15:01 |
| lei-zh | good evening : ) | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | hello | 15:02 |
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| sjmc7 | we’ll give it another minute, although i don’t have much for today | 15:03 |
| TravT | o/ | 15:03 |
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| rosmaita | sjmc7: congratulations | 15:05 |
| yingjun | o/ | 15:05 |
| sjmc7 | on...? | 15:05 |
| sjmc7 | i’ve done so many things to be congratulated for! | 15:05 |
| rosmaita | all of them! | 15:05 |
| rosmaita | i was speaking of your re-election, though | 15:05 |
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| sjmc7 | ah! yes, it was a tough campaign | 15:06 |
| lei-zh | lol | 15:06 |
| rosmaita | you need to issue some executive orders | 15:06 |
| rosmaita | but i understand millions of people attended your inauguration | 15:07 |
| sjmc7 | let them eat cake, sort of thing? | 15:07 |
| sjmc7 | hahaha, indeed. it was the best, i say! | 15:07 |
| TravT | rosmaita: congrats to you as well! | 15:07 |
| rosmaita | yes, the black spot was passed to me for another cycle | 15:07 |
| TravT | hehe | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | ok, let’s get started now that’s over | 15:09 |
| TravT | i guess this means you get a plane ticket to another couple places, though! | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | #topic ocata is released | 15:09 |
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| sjmc7 | everything got tagged beginning of this week, so if anyone notices any earth-shattering bugs between now and the 13th, they’ll need backporting | 15:10 |
| TravT | \o/ | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | thanks for all the hard work on patches and reviewing them | 15:10 |
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| sjmc7 | i don’t know of anyithng else that needs to go in | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | #topic horizon/zaqar talk proposal | 15:14 |
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| sjmc7 | lei-zh: there were some emails between you and horizon/zaqar | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | could you summarize them briefly? | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | unless you’re on a phone or something in which case i can | 15:15 |
| lei-zh | yeah, I summit a topic about horizon demo with searchlight and zaqar | 15:16 |
| lei-zh | we have some discussion via email and irc channel | 15:16 |
| lei-zh | with wangfeilong zaqar ptl and two horizon guys working on the demo before | 15:17 |
| lei-zh | the demo is about searchlight emitting resource info to zaqar queue, and horizon could consume these info to display resource | 15:18 |
| sjmc7 | that sounds like a cool demo - people have been asking for something similar for ages | 15:19 |
| TravT | yeah, that does sound cool | 15:19 |
| TravT | was this email on the ML? | 15:19 |
| robcresswell | The Horizon guys in this case is my interns :p | 15:20 |
| TravT | robcresswell: ++ :) | 15:20 |
| robcresswell | They've been working on it for a bit, but I'm glad they've now got some solid contacts and a deadline | 15:20 |
| robcresswell | Pretty confident they'll have a good demo for summit time | 15:20 |
| rosmaita | very nice | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | this’d be for the boston summit in may? | 15:21 |
| lei-zh | yep, topic for boston | 15:21 |
| robcresswell | The two general use cases we've been considering is using it to display live info about "a cloud" as things happen, and for async table updates instead of polling | 15:21 |
| robcresswell | yeah, Boston | 15:21 |
| robcresswell | atm they're working on the first case primarily. | 15:22 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah, the first case is the one we were interested in | 15:22 |
| TravT | are they doing this in a completely new plugin? | 15:22 |
| lei-zh | because it's kind of last resort, I directly email people involved, and cc sjmc7 and robcresswell, want to finalize the topic at that time | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | second one’s more fiddly | 15:22 |
| robcresswell | TravT: At the moment its a plugin | 15:22 |
| TravT | okay, cool | 15:22 |
| robcresswell | I'd quite like to pull this kind of thing into Horizon tree, but first step is a solid POC. | 15:23 |
| TravT | of course | 15:23 |
| robcresswell | sjmc7: Yeah, just live feedback as a whole would be great. X is about to run out of quota for something, a bunch of VMs just fell over, whatever baremetal is now ready for deploy. If we could just the info piped together, its just a matter of filtering the interesting bits. | 15:24 |
| TravT | well, if any pre-summit demos are planned, please invite me! | 15:24 |
| robcresswell | The dashboard right now is very... static. | 15:24 |
| robcresswell | TravT: Will do | 15:24 |
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| robcresswell | Anyway, sorry for hijacking the conversation again :) | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, be intereseting to see how that shapes up. let us know if you need help with any of it | 15:25 |
| robcresswell | sjmc7: Will do, thanks | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | eh, that’s what we’re here for | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | i only had one other thing on the agenda | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | #topic plans for pike | 15:25 |
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| sjmc7 | i only have a few things that i’d like to see get done in pike, the main one of which is continuing ot follow versioned notifications in the hope we’ll be able to remove the api callbacks | 15:26 |
| TravT | that would be so nice... | 15:27 |
| sjmc7 | coverage-wise we support most of the widely-used services | 15:27 |
| TravT | i know there have been some data additions to some APIs that would be good to get in | 15:27 |
| sjmc7 | so other than that it’s mainly scaling and ui improvements. yeah, we should review notifications for all services at some point during every release cycle | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | if anyone has stuff they’d like to do/get done, then now’s a good time before the ATG, especially where it involves work from other services | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | we’ll have to see where nova’s at; they were talking about using searchlight for cells but i’ve not heard much since the last summit | 15:30 |
| TravT | matt reidemann mentioned it in his ptl nomination | 15:30 |
| TravT | * Continue working on cells v2 for multi-cell support including | 15:31 |
| TravT | investigating the concept of auto-registration of compute nodes to | 15:31 |
| TravT | simplify deployment automation, and also focus on multi-cell testing and | 15:31 |
| TravT | Searchlight integration. | 15:31 |
| lei-zh | I heard they will have discussion about it in the PTG | 15:31 |
| TravT | maybe rosmaita could stick his head in and let them know we are still around, just not at the summit? | 15:32 |
| sjmc7 | leave mysterious notes on chairs | 15:32 |
| TravT | he could impersonate you sjmcy | 15:33 |
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| sjmc7 | i could send some british props | 15:33 |
| sjmc7 | a monocle and top hat | 15:33 |
| TravT | i think he's ignoring us... | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | very wise. ok, well, if anyone’s got anything else... | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | #topic open discussion | 15:34 |
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| sjmc7 | otherwise we can call it here | 15:35 |
| TravT | i don't have anything | 15:35 |
| robcresswell | I can show up to the nova thing if you like, I'm sure they think all British people look the same anyway | 15:35 |
| robcresswell | :D | 15:35 |
| TravT | lol | 15:35 |
| TravT | thanks robcresswell | 15:35 |
| robcresswell | Lurk in the corner drinking tea | 15:35 |
| sjmc7 | that’d be much appreciated. yes, all bad teeth and strange accents | 15:35 |
| TravT | make a subtle, but whitty remark | 15:36 |
| robcresswell | But yes, on a serious note, I'll make a point to drop in waving a searchlight flag and take some notes for ya. | 15:36 |
| TravT | \o/ | 15:36 |
| sjmc7 | that’d be great, thanks. our travel budget sadly isn’t even stretching to a trip to atlanta these days :( | 15:37 |
| robcresswell | That's a shame :( | 15:38 |
| TravT | agreed | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | yep. we’ll see what happens this year | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | ok, on that note, if there’s nothing else, we’ll call it here and i’ll begin teaching robcresswell my life story so he can impersonate me | 15:39 |
| robcresswell | 0.o | 15:39 |
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| TravT | thanks! bye | 15:39 |
| robcresswell | \o | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | thanks folks | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | #endmeeting | 15:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 9 15:39:49 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2017/openstack_search.2017-02-09-15.00.html | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2017/openstack_search.2017-02-09-15.00.txt | 15:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2017/openstack_search.2017-02-09-15.00.log.html | 15:39 |
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| mhayden | OSA weekly meeting in a few minutes | 15:56 |
| evrardjp | thanks mhayden | 15:57 |
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| mhayden | #startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 9 16:00:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mhayden. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| mhayden | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
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| * mhayden woots | 16:00 | |
| mgariepy | o/ | 16:00 |
| crushil | \o | 16:00 |
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| cathrichardson | o/ | 16:02 |
| spotz | \o/ | 16:02 |
| xdaxdb | o/ | 16:03 |
| jmccrory | o/ | 16:03 |
| andymccr | o/ | 16:03 |
| * mhayden will wait until :05 after | 16:03 | |
| asettle | \o/ | 16:03 |
| asettle | heyo | 16:03 |
| asettle | Where yo gifs bro | 16:03 |
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| mhayden | asettle: it's been a week | 16:04 |
| evrardjp | o? | 16:04 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 16:04 |
| asettle | mhayden: *nods* understandable | 16:05 |
| mhayden | alrighty, let's put the lime in the coconut | 16:05 |
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| mhayden | #topic Review action items from last week | 16:05 |
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| mhayden | it looks like we came through on andymccr's starred reviews! https://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:andrew-mccrae | 16:05 |
| mhayden | andymccr: you're welcome | 16:05 |
| andymccr | yes thank you! i didn't have to stay up too late on thursday :P | 16:05 |
| mhayden | woot | 16:06 |
| mhayden | moving right along | 16:06 |
| mhayden | #topic Ops guide reviews - asettle | 16:06 |
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| * mhayden hands it to asettle | 16:06 | |
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| asettle | Helloooo | 16:06 |
| stevelle | o/ | 16:06 |
| asettle | Currently up for review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431499/ | 16:06 |
| asettle | All those that know/understand rabbitmq | 16:06 |
| asettle | Get on that | 16:06 |
| asettle | Darren Carpenter from Rackspace has been providing us with content and we've been help write it down. | 16:07 |
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| asettle | Thanks to spotz for already looking :) | 16:07 |
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| asettle | If anyone else can help in sections, let us know: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStackAnsible#Documentation_planning | 16:07 |
| asettle | SIgn up and write up :) | 16:07 |
| mhayden | woot | 16:08 |
| andymccr | yeah if any ops related people have some time to take on some of those would be massively appreciated | 16:08 |
| asettle | I mean, Darren has been writing and dumping things into an etherpad | 16:08 |
| asettle | No upstream experience necessary ;) | 16:08 |
| asettle | Anyway, still rolling to Boston. Thanks mhayden :) | 16:08 |
| mhayden | asettle: congrats on PTL, btw | 16:09 |
| asettle | Thanks mhayden :) | 16:09 |
| mhayden | #info congrats to asettle on docs PTL! | 16:09 |
| asettle | Hahhahahah <3 | 16:09 |
| andymccr | isnt that like a #success ? :P | 16:09 |
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| mhayden | #action everyone congratulate asettle on becoming docs ptl | 16:09 |
| mhayden | there, i did it ;) | 16:09 |
| andymccr | hahaha | 16:09 |
| mhayden | okay... moving along | 16:09 |
| mhayden | #topic PTG - Feb 20-24 - andymccr | 16:09 |
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| andymccr | ok so same as the last few weeks - its like 2 weeks away now - looking fwd to it. | 16:10 |
| andymccr | if you're coming fill out the etherpad with any suggestions/ideas! | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | o/ | 16:10 |
| andymccr | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-ptg-pike | 16:10 |
| asettle | So about htat, I don't know if I can make it over to the OSA ops session | 16:10 |
| asettle | Cause i'll be between docs/security | 16:10 |
| asettle | If someone could represent the efforts there, that would be helpful | 16:11 |
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| evrardjp | jmccrory: will be there, woot! | 16:11 |
| jmccrory | evrardjp : finally got approval yesterday | 16:11 |
| mhayden | yay | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | I just saw you added your name, that's why :p | 16:11 |
| mhayden | how about ol' automagically? | 16:12 |
| andymccr | automgically cant make it :( | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | that would be great | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | and logan- ? | 16:12 |
| mhayden | darn | 16:12 |
| logan- | unlikely :/ | 16:12 |
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| evrardjp | ok | 16:12 |
| cloudnull | i'll be there. :) | 16:12 |
| stevelle | nice | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | wooot! add your name! :) | 16:13 |
| * cloudnull adding | 16:13 | |
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| mhayden | if anyone isn't going to be there, feel free to toss some comments into the etherpad there with your thoughts, +1's, -1's, etc | 16:14 |
| andymccr | ^ yes | 16:14 |
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| andymccr | and anything super important that you want discussed let me or somebody else know and i'd be happy to start a discussion if possible | 16:14 |
| mhayden | i'll be at the Hilton up the street from the Sheraton | 16:15 |
| mhayden | i think a few others will be there too | 16:15 |
| mhayden | perhaps we could arrange a dinner or meetup for beverages? | 16:17 |
| * mhayden appoints jmccrory to lead our social committee :P | 16:17 | |
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| odyssey4me | not sure what's happening with the PTG itself, but I'm guessing that nothing has been arranged - so mon night is the thing | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | some of us are staying for the whole week | 16:18 |
| mhayden | we can always talk it over when we get there | 16:18 |
| mhayden | i'll be around Mon/Tue only :/ | 16:18 |
| andymccr | im sure we will arrange somethings :) | 16:18 |
| mhayden | okay, we're good on this i think | 16:18 |
| mhayden | TO THE ETHERPAD! | 16:18 |
| andymccr | rallying cry! | 16:18 |
| mhayden | #topic New core reviewer -- andymccr | 16:18 |
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| mhayden | back to andymccr | 16:18 |
| andymccr | yay! | 16:19 |
| andymccr | so 2 in 2 weeks, which is kinda great | 16:19 |
| andymccr | but mgariepy is now a core, since nobody objected | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | yes! | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | huzzah! | 16:19 |
| cloudnull | woot! | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | this is great ! | 16:19 |
| mgariepy | yay :) | 16:19 |
| mhayden | woot! | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | gratz mgariepy - and commisserations :p | 16:19 |
| mhayden | #action everyone congratulate mgariepy on becoming a core reviewer! | 16:19 |
| cloudnull | mgariepy: bring on the -2's :) | 16:20 |
| andymccr | the CentOS work has been great and all the reviews too! | 16:20 |
| cloudnull | ++ | 16:20 |
| mhayden | yeah, the centos work is much appreciated | 16:20 |
| mhayden | as is the selinux work | 16:20 |
| jmccrory | congrats | 16:20 |
| mgariepy | thanks a lot guys :) | 16:20 |
| mhayden | i remember when i walked uphill both ways to give a -2 | 16:21 |
| * mhayden giggles | 16:21 | |
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| mhayden | nice work, mgariepy -- moving aloooong | 16:21 |
| mhayden | #topic Release planning and decisions - andymccr | 16:21 |
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| mhayden | i hear we have some kind of release coming soon | 16:21 |
| mhayden | rumor has it | 16:21 |
| andymccr | ok so! we got rc1 out with the nova bits in! | 16:22 |
| andymccr | we are working to fix everything up and thanks to everybody for the effort | 16:22 |
| andymccr | with new branches and some instability around packages etc its a bit of a battle | 16:22 |
| andymccr | but i think we're near the end of that | 16:22 |
| andymccr | as an extra note, we have 2 extra weeks after final release date since we are cycle-trailing | 16:22 |
| andymccr | mitaka will get a new release next week - but newton has stalled, im going to follow up with releases and stable branch team to find out if there is something we can do better to help get those releases through | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | thanks andymccr | 16:23 |
| asettle | Thanks :) | 16:23 |
| andymccr | keep fixing the things in master and stable/ocata :) | 16:23 |
| mhayden | ocata rc1 looks good on centos so far | 16:23 |
| mhayden | my cluster is happy | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | that's because setenforce 0 | 16:24 |
| andymccr | and i'll try do a stable/ocata bump once we have all the issues ironed out | 16:24 |
| mgariepy | lol | 16:24 |
| mhayden | evrardjp: actually, it's enforcing right now | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | oh that's great news! | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | stop ruining our fun mhayden | 16:24 |
| mhayden | sorry | 16:24 |
| stevelle | that deserves some applause | 16:24 |
| stevelle | really does | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | wait to see the rules first :p | 16:24 |
| mhayden | okay, andymccr -- anything we can do to help with releases? | 16:24 |
| asettle | andymccr: do you have a starred list of patches again? | 16:25 |
| andymccr | not really, just keep fixing the things like we have been and that'll be a massive help :) | 16:25 |
| mhayden | #action everyone thank mhayden for ruining the selinux trolling fun | 16:25 |
| asettle | Thanks mhayden | 16:25 |
| evrardjp | thanks mhayden | 16:25 |
| mgariepy | thanks a lot mhayden | 16:25 |
| mhayden | #info Ocata RC1 is out | 16:25 |
| andymccr | if only somebody had a "thanks" gif :P | 16:25 |
| mhayden | #info We get 2 extra weeks after release for extra fixes since we're cycle-trailing | 16:25 |
| xdaxdb | thanks to all you guys | 16:25 |
| xdaxdb | err *people | 16:26 |
| spotz | hehe | 16:26 |
| mhayden | i'm normally referred to as "that thing" | 16:26 |
| mhayden | so it's okay | 16:26 |
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| mhayden | "that thing with the gifs" | 16:26 |
| spotz | Por mhayden | 16:26 |
| mhayden | "and the dad jokes" | 16:26 |
| mhayden | #topic Open Floor | 16:27 |
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| mhayden | what else do we have? blueprints? pre-ptg discussions? | 16:27 |
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| logan- | opinions on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429779/ appreciated | 16:27 |
| logan- | ceph is broken in ocata until we fix the enrollment workflow | 16:27 |
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| spotz | If anyone snags a code at PTG they're not going to use let me know | 16:27 |
| mhayden | i'm interested in working with cloudnull to draft a spec for getting a formal monitoring role made out of his work in openstack-ansible-ops | 16:27 |
| cloudnull | ++ i think this is a long time coming | 16:28 |
| logan- | that is great | 16:28 |
| cloudnull | It'd be great to formalize somet things | 16:28 |
| andymccr | i would be in favour of this :) | 16:28 |
| mhayden | would anyone want to form a little subgroup to talk about monitoring/metrics and use cases? | 16:28 |
| andymccr | if you could spec that up before the ptf that would be awesome | 16:28 |
| andymccr | ptg | 16:28 |
| mhayden | andymccr: i think ol' cloudnull and i could do that | 16:28 |
| andymccr | this is what i call TEAM | 16:29 |
| mhayden | #action cloudnull and mhayden to draft up a spec for monitoring/metrics in OSA | 16:29 |
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| andymccr | ohh dang cloudnull - he's added an action item for you | 16:30 |
| cloudnull | it just got real... | 16:30 |
| cloudnull | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQb3h0EEK8Y | 16:30 |
| evrardjp | mhayden: for the metrics I think I'd be happy to relay some thoughts from outside rackspace | 16:31 |
| andymccr | guessing mhayden put "last call on discussion" in the wrong channel? :P | 16:33 |
| andymccr | but im guessing we are good for today! | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | and the action note :p | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | I'm good. | 16:33 |
| xdaxdb | I was planning on going to Boston in May, PTG sounds interesting though too | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | well I'm not sure if that translate properly. I meant I have nothing to add. | 16:34 |
| xdaxdb | I'm new to the scene trying to get more exposure | 16:34 |
| andymccr | xdaxdb: for dev work the PTG is going to be more useful - there aren't any dev sessions at the summit afaik | 16:34 |
| palendae | evrardjp: I understood it ) | 16:34 |
| asettle | xdaxdb: PTG is where it's at. It's where we'll go for planning :) | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | xdaxdb: different targets I think | 16:34 |
| andymccr | but if you're new to OpenStack and want to get more exposure the summits are great :) | 16:34 |
| mhayden | now that i'm back in the right channel... | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | palendae: \o/ | 16:34 |
| andymccr | mhayden: add the action item | 16:34 |
| mhayden | #action everyone congratulate lbragstad on becoming keystone PTL! | 16:35 |
| xdaxdb | I've been to a Red Hat summit and got really bored, would you say Boston is the same target audience? | 16:35 |
| mhayden | but he's in #openstack-ansible, not here | 16:35 |
| stevelle | xdaxdb: probably similar target | 16:36 |
| mhayden | xdaxdb: this boston summit will be interesting -- it's the first time we've had one after a ptg | 16:36 |
| xdaxdb | Not sure how much I can contribute I just want to listen to these meetings :) | 16:36 |
| mhayden | i submitted a couple of talks for the summit in boston, so i may be there, who knows | 16:36 |
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| mhayden | my gut says that there will be much fewer technical people at the summits | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | xdaxdb the PTG is a project team planning for the next cycle's work, whereas the summit is where those who deploy the projects are able to give feedback | 16:37 |
| xdaxdb | also its a place for vendors to shoot fish in a barrel I assume | 16:37 |
| odyssey4me | they're staggered so that the feedback can be given ahead of the planning for the next cycle, and after the release so that deployers have time to actually try it all out | 16:37 |
| spotz | mhayden I think you're right, I think folks will be there if their talks get in but not the numbers of tech folks when we had design meetings | 16:37 |
| odyssey4me | yes, the summit is definitely the vendor thing | 16:38 |
| spotz | I'm hoping they'll adjust things after this round | 16:38 |
| xdaxdb | booking flight to ATL then | 16:38 |
| spotz | Hey if we have any doc type things in ATL I'll try to atleast dial in on cloudnull or mhayden's phones:) | 16:39 |
| mhayden | hah, we can figure out something possibly | 16:40 |
| mhayden | even if it's one way | 16:40 |
| mhayden | okay, 20 min left -- anything else today? | 16:40 |
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| mhayden | going once | 16:40 |
| mhayden | going twice | 16:41 |
| mhayden | thanks, everyone! | 16:41 |
| spotz | woot gone | 16:41 |
| mhayden | #endmeeting | 16:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 9 16:41:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-02-09-16.00.html | 16:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-02-09-16.00.txt | 16:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-02-09-16.00.log.html | 16:41 |
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| spotz | seeya all on the channel | 16:41 |
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| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:18 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 9 17:18:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:18 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:18 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:18 |
| LouisF | hi all | 17:18 |
| LouisF | sorry for delay | 17:18 |
| igordcard | hi LouisF | 17:18 |
| bcafarel | howdy | 17:19 |
| doonhammer | hi all | 17:19 |
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| LouisF | agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting#Agenda_for_the_Networking-SFC_Meeting_.282.2F9.2F2017.29 | 17:19 |
| LouisF | #topic API reference | 17:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "API reference (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:20 | |
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| LouisF | pcarver: i noticed a merge error | 17:21 |
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| pcarver | yes, I need to update | 17:22 |
| pcarver | I'm switching back and forth between working on the bgpvpn and sfc api-refs | 17:22 |
| LouisF | pcarver: ok | 17:22 |
| pcarver | and other people are working on other api-refs so every time one merges it needs to be rebased | 17:23 |
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| pcarver | all the parameters for everything are in a single file | 17:23 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: right | 17:24 |
| igordcard | can we add graph to the api ref? | 17:24 |
| LouisF | igordcard: can we add that as a separate patch? | 17:25 |
| igordcard | LouisF: yes | 17:25 |
| pcarver | we can, but should we do that as part of the initial commit or after? | 17:25 |
| LouisF | i'd like to get this commit done as it affects ocata compliance | 17:25 |
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| pcarver | Ther's been so much churn that I think getting this merged first makes sense | 17:26 |
| LouisF | pcarver: +1 | 17:26 |
| pcarver | I don't want to intiate dozens more patch sets adding the graph | 17:26 |
| igordcard | if there's no problem in submitting multiple patches to neutron-lib as part of ocata api ref, I'm ok with submitting another one | 17:26 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: ok thanks | 17:26 |
| LouisF | #topic CLI in python-neutronclient | 17:28 |
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| LouisF | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409759/ | 17:28 |
| LouisF | mohan uploaded a new patchset - please review | 17:28 |
| LouisF | #topic ocata work items | 17:29 |
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| LouisF | symmetric chain https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410482/ | 17:30 |
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| LouisF | please review this | 17:30 |
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| LouisF | sfc graph https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388802/ | 17:31 |
| LouisF | please review | 17:31 |
| igordcard | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:sfc_encapsulation | 17:31 |
| igordcard | you can review mpls correlation, graph api and graph db/plugin | 17:31 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: thanks yes - all review these | 17:32 |
| igordcard | while I finish the ovs patch which I had to rewrite a big part... I want to have it finished before next week... but the other 3 patches are ready for review (I'll only make a few minor changes that won't affect the review) | 17:32 |
| LouisF | igordcard: some have jenkins failure - can you post new patches | 17:32 |
| igordcard | LouisF: yeah the db/plugin failed, I'll post soon, thanks | 17:33 |
| bcafarel | igordcard: MPLS correlation is good to review? It still has your -1 | 17:33 |
| bcafarel | oh it's code-review, not workflow, nevermind | 17:33 |
| igordcard | LouisF: it's my acknowledge of the changes that it needs... but they aren't too sigificant to prevent reviewing from others | 17:33 |
| igordcard | bcafarel: | 17:34 |
| bcafarel | ok, I'll check the other ones then :) | 17:34 |
| LouisF | igordcard: ok will review | 17:35 |
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| LouisF | mohankumar_: hi | 17:35 |
| LouisF | mohankumar_: thanks for updated patch | 17:35 |
| LouisF | we need to pull a stable/ocata brancj to align with the release | 17:37 |
| LouisF | need to do this in by end of month | 17:38 |
| LouisF | i would like to have the symmetric chain and sfc graph work done before then | 17:38 |
| LouisF | and the api reference work and the cli work | 17:39 |
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| bcafarel | these 2 are external repositories, do they have the same target date for ocata branch? | 17:40 |
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| LouisF | bcafarel: agree but its work items we have had for some time | 17:40 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: do you think this is possible for sfc graph? | 17:41 |
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| igordcard | sorry, let me read | 17:43 |
| igordcard | Lyes, possible for sfc graph | 17:43 |
| LouisF | igordcard: great | 17:43 |
| LouisF | igordcard: regarding the follow nsh work - what is approx. schedule for that? | 17:44 |
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| LouisF | doonhammer: i see that is an openswitch patch for sfc - how is that progressing? | 17:46 |
| igordcard | LouisF: without using any special transport like vxlan+-gpe, it shouldn't take more than a month... most of the time will be spent manually testing it | 17:46 |
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| igordcard | it is likely that OVS 2.8 will finally have NSH support, but not certain | 17:47 |
| bcafarel | that would be great | 17:47 |
| doonhammer | LouisF: Yes working on getting it into mainline - Ben has reviewed the first patch - I am not happy with the overloading of the ACL - it does not really work and has minimal benefits (IMHO) so going to submit alternate patch | 17:48 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: ok thanks | 17:48 |
| LouisF | igordcard: when is ovs 2.8 available? | 17:49 |
| doonhammer | LouisF: I have taken care of Ben's comments to the current patch so either should be good | 17:49 |
| igordcard | LouisF: august/september I believe | 17:49 |
| LouisF | igordcard: thanks | 17:49 |
| LouisF | #topic other items | 17:50 |
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| LouisF | any other items? | 17:51 |
| LouisF | ok thanks all | 17:52 |
| igordcard | thank you | 17:52 |
| LouisF | bye | 17:52 |
| bcafarel | bye | 17:53 |
| LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 9 17:53:05 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-02-09-17.18.html | 17:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-02-09-17.18.txt | 17:53 |
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