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rosmaitaCourtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, alex_bash14:00
rosmaita#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 12 14:00:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:00
rosmaita#topic roll call14:00
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hemanthmo/14:00
abhishekko/14:00
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:01
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jokke_o/14:01
mfedosino/14:01
dharinic\o14:01
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rosmaitasigmavirus should be around too, just saw that he sent something to the ML a few minutes ago14:02
sigmavirusHey all, I am14:02
sigmavirusWas filing bugs against bandit14:02
sigmavirusSorry for being late :)14:02
rosmaitawell, you are usually early!14:02
rosmaitaok, let's get started14:02
rosmaita#topic updates14:03
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rosmaitaReminder: gerrit downtime today 20:00-20:30 utc14:03
rosmaitai don't know how to do sub-topice14:03
rosmaita*topics14:03
sigmavirus(There is no way)14:03
sigmavirus(There is only zuul)14:03
rosmaitaanyway, #2: New experimental grenade gate job14:03
rosmaitajust want you to be aware it exists14:03
sigmavirusI guess you could do #info but *shrug*14:04
rosmaita#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414326/14:04
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rosmaitaonly impact could be slower overall gate14:04
rosmaitawhich could be a problem, so just a heads-up for awareness14:04
rosmaita#info item 3 - community images14:05
rosmaitahere's the latest installment in the saga:14:05
rosmaita#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110018.html14:05
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rosmaitai missed the QA meeting due to a time confusion14:05
sigmavirus=(14:06
rosmaitathere seems to be a slight misunderstanding about what we are asking for14:06
rosmaitaso i tried to address that explicitly in the above email14:06
rosmaitabut the issue seems to be coming down to: who decides what is an acceptable API change?14:06
rosmaitacdent has put us on the agenda for today's API-WG meeting14:07
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sigmavirusYay. That discussion again14:07
sigmavirus/sarcasm14:07
rosmaitayeah, looks like that might be what it's coming down to14:07
rosmaitaanyway, api-wg meeting is at 16:00 utc today14:07
rosmaita(that time i'm sure about!)14:08
rosmaitai'll be there, anyone else who's interested please attend14:08
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rosmaitathat's all i've got to say about this ATM14:09
rosmaitaok, moving on14:09
rosmaita#info Review of progress on priority items from last week14:09
rosmaita#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/109772.html14:09
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rosmaitapriority 1 was the request-id stuff; abhishekk has a new patch up addressing issues; please review14:10
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rosmaitamaybe we can get that knocked out today and drop it from the priority list14:10
abhishekkyes, thank you14:10
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rosmaitapriority 2: alembic stuff14:11
rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/392993/ has a -1 from dolph14:12
hemanthmrosmaita: this needs to be included too https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397409/14:12
hemanthmrosmaita: I'll look into that14:12
rosmaitahemanthm: ty14:12
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rosmaitanot sure everyone knows, alex_bash is on paternity leave for the next 2 weeks or so, so he'll only be around sporadically14:12
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sigmavirusrosmaita: unacceptable14:13
sigmavirushe shouldn't be around *at all*14:13
rosmaita:)14:13
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rosmaitaok, the alembic stuff remains a priority ... that means core reviewers need to look at it before doing other stuff this week (unless you are working on a security bug)14:14
rosmaitaso mark down these reviews:14:15
sigmavirusYeah, if you're a core working with the VMT, that takes priority14:15
rosmaita#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392993/ (after hemanthm updates)14:15
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rosmaita#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397409/14:15
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rosmaita#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382958/14:16
rosmaita#info priority 3: community images14:16
rosmaitai will have to update over the ML14:16
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rosmaitai am confusing myself with the #topic and #info14:17
sigmaviruslol14:17
rosmaitadharinic had a request for some stuff to be put on the priority list for this coming week14:17
dharinicYeah. I was hoping we can add Buffered Reader to our priority14:18
rosmaitahearing no objections, consider it added14:18
dharinicHere is the link to the patch under review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120866/14:18
dharinicAwesome, Thanks.14:18
rosmaitai'm not inclined to add new stuff because we have an upcoming glance_store release14:18
rosmaita(more on that later)14:19
rosmaitaso there will probably be soem glance_store related stuff that we'll need to address14:19
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rosmaitaok, last update item14:19
rosmaita#info PTL self-nominations opens soon (week of Jan 23)14:19
rosmaitaif you're thinking of running for PTL, keep the deadline in mind14:20
rosmaitaalso, you can talk to me or flavio about what it's like to be ptl to gather data14:20
rosmaitaalso, i think mfedosin and flwang have some experience in that regard14:20
rosmaitai am planning to run again, but don't let that stop you14:20
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rosmaitathat's all for updates14:21
rosmaita#topic PTG planning14:21
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rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-pike-ptg-planning14:22
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rosmaitaoh yeah, when i said above that i was planning to run, i meant "run for glance ptl", not "run away"14:22
rosmaitaok, we need to start thinking about The Future14:22
rosmaitasome general info is on the etherpad linked above14:23
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rosmaitaif you have some ideas of where glance needs to go in Pike and Queens, please propose sessions14:23
rosmaitawe will have all day wed, thurs, and friday morning14:23
rosmaitawon't be distractions like at previous summits, so we should be able to get a lot done14:24
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rosmaitai know stevelle and jokke are interested in multiple backend support14:24
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rosmaitaanyway, if you have ideas, please add them to the etherpad14:25
rosmaita# topic upcoming glance_store release14:25
rosmaitasigmavirus: that's you, i believe14:25
sigmavirusSorry got side tracked14:25
sigmavirus#topic upcoming glance_store release14:25
sigmavirusdang doesn't update it14:25
sigmavirusanyway14:26
sigmavirusThe non-client library release freeze is coming up next week14:26
rosmaita#topic upcoming glance_store release14:26
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sigmavirusAs such, I'd like us to find the *top* priority (non-bug fix) reviews for the glance-store and prioritize their reviews14:26
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sigmavirusAnything that's a bug fix I would like to prioritize for *after* the release because we can work on backporting those to stable/ocata and creating a release14:26
sigmavirusThis is especially important if there are any reviews that are supporting the existing priorities (request-id, etc.)14:27
sigmavirusIf we don't have any feature related work, I'm going to submit the release request sooner rather than later to get it off my plate14:27
rosmaitaoff the top of my head, we had a multi-tenant swift support fix that i believe has been merged14:27
sigmavirus</end-release-cpl-transmission>14:27
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rosmaitawe have a security bug that needs to get in14:28
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rosmaitabut that's all i'm aware of right now14:28
rosmaitaanyone else?14:28
rosmaitasigmavirus: you said Jan 18 for the release?14:29
dharinicand possibly try getting Buffered Reader in?14:29
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rosmaitadharinic: you are correct14:29
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sigmavirusrosmaita: the dates are in the agenda14:30
rosmaitajan 18 is before our next meeting, so if anyone thinks of something, please communicate to the ML14:30
rosmaitasigmavirus: ty, i knew i saw them somewhere14:31
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sigmavirus:)14:31
rosmaita#action sigmavirus to propose glance_store release on 18 Jan 201714:31
rosmaitaok, so right now, we have still open for glance_store:14:31
rosmaita- buffered reader for swift14:32
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rosmaita- security bug that i can't give details on14:32
rosmaitaok, moving along14:32
rosmaita#topic glance_store and glance coresec14:32
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rosmaitaas you may have noticed, there's a security bug open related to glance_store14:33
rosmaitai've got some concerns about the proposed fix14:33
rosmaitaneed coresec people to look at the bug and weigh in14:33
rosmaitawe absolutely need to get this fixed before jan 1814:34
rosmaitaif you are on coresec and don't know what i am talking about, please pm me14:34
rosmaita#topic glance_store patch needs thought about testing14:34
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rosmaita#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378460/14:35
rosmaitathis is a follow-up patch for a ceph driver bug14:35
rosmaitathe bug had to do with how the size of an image was being determined14:36
rosmaitait was fixed in one place earlier14:36
rosmaitabut this patch fixes it in the get_size() function14:36
rosmaitawhich was a pretty bad place to miss it14:37
rosmaitasigmavirus had put a note on an earlier patch that it would be good to have a test14:37
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rosmaitaand since one of the instances of using a problematic ceph call was missed, i have to agree14:38
rosmaitabut, it's not entirely clear how this could be tested14:38
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rosmaitaso my request is for people to take a look and see if you can suggest something14:38
rosmaitai think the fix is ok, but with no tests, it's hard to avoid a regression14:39
sigmavirus^14:39
sigmavirus++14:39
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rosmaitaok, that's all for our regularly scheduled program14:40
rosmaita#topic open discussion14:40
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hemanthmmaybe stubout the method in question and barf if it is invoked?14:40
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sigmavirushemanthm: barf is such a ... sticky word14:41
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sigmavirus;P14:41
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hemanthm:P14:42
rosmaitahemanthm: i think you may have hit on the solution there14:42
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rosmaitai've received some feedback that i haven't allowed for sufficient open discussion at meetings14:43
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hemanthmrosmaita: I haven't looked at the patch yet, will take a look at it today14:43
rosmaitaso, just want to point out that we have 16+ min14:43
rosmaitaso ... please discuss!14:44
hemanthmok ... what's happening with our logo?14:44
rosmaitahemanthm: good question, i never heard back about the redesign14:44
rosmaita#action rosmaita follow up about the glance logo situation14:45
rosmaitai haven't heard about any fabulous swag that's supposed to be available at the PTG, either14:45
hemanthmI was so hoping for chipmunk shirts14:46
rosmaitahemanthm: you may very well get one, but it may look like a squirrel!14:46
hemanthmhaha14:46
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sigmavirusrosmaita: send swag14:48
jokke_:)14:48
* sigmavirus has a darth of OS swag14:48
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rosmaitasigmavirus: if anyone needs OS swag, it's you14:48
rosmaitaanyone have any interesting new year's resolutions?14:49
sigmavirusBe a better release CPL14:49
dharinicBe better at everything.14:50
dharinicquestion: Is every session at the PTG like a presentation that one person presents/talks about? Or is it more like a team discussion and brainstorming?14:50
rosmaitadharinic: sort of a combination14:50
hemanthmBe better at writing email filters :/14:50
rosmaitanot a presentation, really14:50
rosmaitamore that someone leads the discussion in a productive manner14:50
rosmaitaso as the discussion leader, you set the stage14:50
dharinicCool. Thanks rosmaita14:51
rosmaitaand then most of the session is discussion and brainstorming14:51
rosmaitanp, good question14:51
dharinicwhats the approx count of ppl who will be attending it?14:51
hemanthmdharinic: it may involve boo-ing the speaker too :P14:51
rosmaitaanother good question14:51
dharinicWill keep that in mind hemanthm :P14:52
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rosmaitalet's take a quick poll of who expects to attend the PTG14:52
rosmaitai will attend14:52
hemanthmo/14:52
dharinicI will too14:52
abhishekko/14:52
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rosmaitamfedosin: will you be able to attend?14:52
jokke_I'm all booked14:52
dharinicalex_bash too14:52
jokke_I'll be there from Sun evening to Sat14:53
rosmaitai haven't set travel plans yet, but will be similar, but maybe leave friday afternoon14:53
rosmaitaso ... finally, hemanthm and jokke_ will get to meet!14:54
hemanthmyay14:54
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mfedosinrosmaita: unfortunately no14:55
rosmaitamfedosin: bummer14:55
mfedosinI know14:55
mfedosinbut if its possible to organize it online I'll be happy to join14:56
rosmaitamfedosin: i was just going to say that14:56
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jokke_:)14:56
rosmaita#action rosmaita find out what online arrangements will be available at PTG14:56
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mfedosinif you have a laptop with webcam we may organize skype call14:57
rosmaitai'll try to find out right away, and hten maybe you could organize a glance_store session14:57
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mfedosingreat!14:58
rosmaitamfedosin: could you put an item on next week's agenda to give us a glare update?14:58
mfedosinsure! will be done14:58
rosmaitaexcellent14:58
mfedosinbtw, sorry for offtopic, but I prepared several demos for glare14:58
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rosmaitai'm mainly interested in glance/glare areas of cooperation that we should be thinking about/aware of14:59
rosmaitaok, we're out of time15:00
rosmaita#endmeeting15:00
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sjmc7#startmeeting openstack search15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 12 15:00:42 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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sjmc7I also started the meeting in #openstack-meeting4 (without the dash) but nobody showed up15:01
lei-zho/15:01
sjmc7Morning / evening all15:01
rosmaitasjmc7: i was wondering where you were, i was going to apologize for running 8 sec over15:01
yingjuno/15:01
sjmc7I’m on vacation today so I’m motivated to keep this short and let people get to bed15:01
sjmc7rosmaita: your apology is nevertheless not accepted15:01
rosmaitarough crowd15:01
sjmc7I demand satisfaction15:02
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TravTo/15:02
sjmc7TravT is always late anyway15:02
rosmaitai long for the civility of the TravT days15:02
rosmaita:)15:02
sjmc7this is our brave new world!15:02
TravTlol15:02
sjmc7#topic Pipeline patch15:02
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rosmaitabuild a wall and make nova pay for it!15:02
sjmc7https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359972/ - I’ve +2ed it15:02
sjmc7hahaha15:02
TravTnice, rosmaita! ;-)15:03
sjmc7I’ve tested the pipelien patch a fair amount and am satisfied with it; i’d like to get it merged so that if there are problems we can get more eyes on it15:03
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sjmc7and so rob’s UI team have some opportunity to look at using it for their prototype in this cycle15:03
sjmc7There is a test publisher in the patch which can be enabled for testing purposes15:04
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sjmc7The size of the patch is intimidating but many of the changes are just adding return statements to event handlers so it’s not as big as it looks15:04
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sjmc7Thanks lei-zh for the hard work on it15:04
rosmaita++15:04
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lei-zhyou are welcome:)15:05
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TravTthanks for your diligence lei-zh15:05
lei-zhyeah, most changes in notification handler are similar15:05
sjmc7Yep. I’m glad we made the decision to simplify it as we did15:05
sjmc7#topic Ironic plugin15:06
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lei-zhone major change is to rewrite glance metadef handler, so that part looks quite different with original one15:06
sjmc7https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364462/ is also ready for review15:06
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sjmc7lei-zh: i actually want to bring up the metadef plugin later, i’ll do so at the end15:07
sjmc7thanks for reminding me15:07
sjmc7https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364462/ adds a plugin for ironic and has been through many many patchsets15:07
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sjmc7it is possible to set up ironic in devstack for testing. i’ve tested most of it but hte notification setup is a bit different from other services and i didn’t get a chance to figure out why i wasn’t receiving them, but if anyone can take a look at it it’d be good to get that in15:08
TravTlooks like yuriy is no longer -1-ing the workflow15:08
sjmc7yep15:08
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sjmc7my last negative review was fairly cosmetic, it’s ready to be reviewed and merged15:09
TravTmight be that we need to trust yuriy on it15:09
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sjmc7i’m happy for someone else to eyeball +2 it and i’ll test the notifications before approving15:09
TravTif everything looks basically okay from ironic team perspective15:09
lei-zhsjmc7: are you using vm to pretend bm in your environment15:09
sjmc7yep lei-zh15:10
sjmc7i guess there’s a virtualized driver ironic uses15:10
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sjmc7or it may not actually care if the node really exists until you try to use it15:11
sjmc7in any case you can create and modify ironic nodes in devstack15:11
sjmc7not sure about spinning up VMs15:11
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sjmc7#topic Elasticsearch 5 compatibility15:12
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sjmc7Turned out i lied a bit when i said we were good with ES5. i filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/165539615:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1655396 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "No "filtered" query in ES 5; API queries fail" [Critical,New]15:12
sjmc7It should be a simple-ish fix but right now the API doesn’t work really at all with ES515:13
sjmc7Searches fail15:13
sjmc7I’ll try to put a patch up early next week for that15:13
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sjmc7They take a pretty robust outlook on backwards compatibility15:14
sjmc7We need to pay attention to the deprecation notices in elasticsearch; their major release cycle is about a year and a half15:15
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TravTyeah, that's pretty critical.15:16
TravTthanks for testing that15:16
sjmc7We probably need the search api to work :)15:16
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lei-zhseems less painful than upgrade from 1.x to 2.x15:17
sjmc7Yes, much. They warned everyone that 1.x  to 2.x was going to be difficult15:17
sjmc75.x mostly removes deprecated features; there weren’t many breaking changes15:17
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sjmc7#topic ocata-315:18
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sjmc7It’s in two weeks!15:18
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sjmc7We don’t have any big outstanding feaetures left to do, so we have a lot of time for bug fixing15:19
sjmc7And discovering15:19
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sjmc7Talking of release cycles, is anyone going to Atlanta for the PTG in february?15:20
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TravTactually, re: ocata... rosmaita, did this get done in glance? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/glance-visibility-changes-shared-community15:20
rosmaitanot yet15:20
rosmaitathe saga continues15:21
sjmc7The system works!15:21
lei-zhI didn't see there's room for searchlight from ptg homepage15:21
rosmaitawe need a tempest test to be changed15:21
rosmaitaand they don't want to do that15:21
sjmc7lei-zh: no, there’s no space allocated explicitly because it didn’t sound like many people were going15:21
sjmc7It’s just in a hotel though so i’m sure there’ll be plenty of space to share15:22
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sjmc7I will not be there. Our travel budget will just about stretch to bus fare and i have a friend’s wedding that week15:22
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sjmc7Which means i can escape the cold weather for a few days15:23
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TravTrosmaita: how is attendance looking for glance at the ptg?15:24
lei-zhme neither, because I couldn't take bus to Atalanta:)15:24
rosmaitaTravT: definitely 6, probably 8, don't expect more than 1015:24
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TravTlei-zh, maybe you could stowaway in the wheel well of an a38015:25
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sjmc7There’s true leadership15:25
TravTi tried that once and airport security got really upset at me.15:25
TravT;-P15:25
sjmc7If people are going, let everyone know15:26
lei-zhTravT: that's a real test for man with acrophobia....15:26
sjmc7Is there a word for “a fear of freezing to death at high altitude"?15:27
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sjmc7#topic Versioned notifications15:28
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sjmc7I’ve still not really looekd at them15:28
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sjmc7It looks like nova will still support unversioned ones for a while15:29
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sjmc7The ironic notifications are versioned, so they’re a good introduction15:29
TravTyingjun is probably the best person regarding nova versioned notifications15:30
yingjunmissed few15:30
yingjunnetwork issue15:30
sjmc7You just missed me jabbering15:31
yingjunhah15:32
sjmc7yingjun: do you know if there’s a plan for deprecating the unversioned notificaitons from nova?15:32
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yingjunno, seems there is no plan yet15:32
sjmc7ok, good15:32
yingjunFYI, the flavor versioned notification was implemented one days ago.15:33
yingjunday15:33
TravTyingjun i saw that. Congrats!15:33
TravTare you still thinking about getting support in for ocata in searchlight? (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/flavor-notifications)15:33
sjmc7that’s definitely doable15:34
yingjuni'm starting working on this one15:34
sjmc7cool. one fewer notification-less plugin15:34
yingjunso next week, i'll have a patch on15:35
TravT:)15:35
sjmc7ok, moving on15:35
sjmc7Actually, this is kind of the next topic anyway15:35
sjmc7#topic Newly implemented notifications15:36
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sjmc7We have some bugs like https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/1565028, https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/156022615:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1565028 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Neutron port detach isn't detected by nova event handler" [Critical,New]15:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1560226 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "No notifications on Neutron tag operations" [High,New]15:36
sjmc7that refer to missing notifications. we need to review them and see if the services have implemented them15:36
sjmc7Neutron tags, for instance, i think did get some attention15:36
sjmc7Any that are implemented can be tagged for ocata-3 or maybe ocata-rc115:37
TravTi'm fine with ocata-rc115:38
TravTthose are bugs afterall15:38
sjmc7Yep. Even if they’ve been around for a year15:38
sjmc7Ok, last topic i had before i throw it open to the floor15:39
sjmc7#topic metadef handler15:39
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sjmc7The metadef handler relies heavily on scripted updates15:40
sjmc7Elasticsearch 5 introduced a new scripting language called ‘painless'15:40
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TravTthat sounds like the scripting language i've been waiting my whole life for15:41
sjmc7Which is sandboxed and safe; groovy was disabled in 1.4 because there were significant security concerns15:41
sjmc7it may be called that ironically15:41
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sjmc7it looks roughly like groovy syntax-wise15:42
sjmc7So we should either convert the handler to use that, or make metadefs a notification-less plugin and do away with it15:42
sjmc7it’s by far the most complex and under-tested handler we have15:42
sjmc7Probably don’t need to do anything with it now but i’ll file a blueprint15:43
TravTk...15:43
sjmc7Ok, that’s all i had15:43
sjmc7#topic open discussion15:43
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sjmc7Anything else?15:43
TravTyou had quite a bit of good info today. thanks!15:44
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yingjunnothing from me15:44
lei-zhnope15:45
TravThave a good next week!15:45
sjmc7ok dokey15:45
sjmc7thanks all15:45
sjmc7#endmeeting15:45
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asettle#startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 12 16:00:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is asettle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
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spotz\o/16:00
asettleRollllll calllll16:00
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andymccro/16:00
asettleHey spotz !16:00
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asettleoh it's andymccr16:00
stevelleo/'16:00
mattt\o16:00
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asettleLovin' the waves folks, lovin' the waves16:01
andymccrso good16:01
spotzhola asettle16:01
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asettleI'll give it a minute or so more for those to trickle in16:01
rromans.16:01
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asettlerromans: good dottin'16:01
prometheanfiresince you asked nicely asettle16:01
asettleprometheanfire: as always :D16:01
mgariepyo/16:02
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asettleAw fam <3 we're mostly all here!16:02
asettlehttp://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/693558/blackadder-3-o.gif16:02
odyssey4meo/16:03
asettleOkay, let's boogie16:03
asettleI'm announcing as of right now since mhayden isn't here to tell me otherwise, meetings are now themed with Blackadder gifs.16:03
asettleExclusively.16:03
asettleNow, onwards!16:03
asettlehttps://68.media.tumblr.com/2691c56fd20945ebc5959fd44f7082de/tumblr_nz0dochroM1tq4of6o1_400.gif16:03
asettle#topic review action items16:03
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asettleandymccr: we had none, but just checking in case anyone forgot to add something in16:04
andymccrasettle: nope it was first week back and i think we were quite low - but don't worry we'll have some this week :P16:04
asettlehttp://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Blackadder-Confused-Look.gif16:04
asettleSure.16:04
asettleDamn that gif16:04
asettleNext up!16:04
evrardjpo/16:04
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asettle#topic Discussion items16:05
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asettleI've really forgotten how to do this so smoothly16:05
asettleFirst up is me, oh hooray!16:05
asettle#topic Operations Guide16:05
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asettleI worked last week on organising and coming up with some planning plages to help us work out the efforts16:05
asettleYou can find it here16:06
asettle#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStackAnsible#Documentation_planning16:06
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asettleThere are a few action items on that list, and a detailed outline of when we hope to achieve this16:06
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asettleAs per discussed last week, we are also looking for people to review the preexisting content.16:06
asettleIf anyone outside of Rackspace has an operations team and would like to get involved, let me know16:06
asettleThis would be a really good thing for OSA to have16:06
asettleIf you have the time, please volunteer - this benefits everyone16:07
asettleFor any and all reviews on the content, see:16:07
asettle#link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/draft-operations-guide/index.html16:07
asettleOkay, any questions/concerns regarding the operations guide?16:07
asettlehttps://68.media.tumblr.com/2691c56fd20945ebc5959fd44f7082de/tumblr_nz0dochroM1tq4of6o1_400.gif16:08
asettleMoving on.16:08
asettleContact me if you wanna chat or can help16:08
asettle#topic PTG16:08
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asettleandymccr: yo up16:08
andymccrok! So PTG is fast approaching - just over a month to go.16:09
asettle#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-ptg-pike16:09
andymccrA few things, we've got an etherpad up https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-ptg-pike16:09
asettleSnippy snap16:09
andymccrif you have ideas or discussion points for the the PTG please start populating the etherpad16:09
andymccradditioanlly, if you could add a blueprint or spec so that we can get some concrete plans and decisions as a result of the PTG that would be great.16:09
asettle#action Team to populate etherpad with ideas and discussion point for PTG16:09
andymccri'll be adding some this coming week16:10
asettle#action Blueprints! Specs!16:10
andymccroh and16:10
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andymccrif anybody isn't able to attend the PTG but has an important blueprint or spec that htey'd like to discuss, please get in touch - we can come up with a plan to involve you somehow16:10
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cloudnullo/16:11
asettleFantastic, thanks andymccr16:11
andymccri really want to include as many as possible, and i'm going to endeavour to write up a daily summary to keep those who can't be there in the loop16:11
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asettle#action andymccr to go through with promise of writing up daily summary at PTG16:11
andymccrgood good16:12
asettleCoolio hoolio16:12
asettleMoving along :)16:12
asettle#topic Release planning and decisions16:12
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asettleandymccr: homie tis you16:12
andymccrahh yes16:12
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andymccrok so! newton and mitaka releases went ahead. Newton was a bit delayed due to some discussion and some work in infra16:13
andymccrnext release will be next week for those 2, so any important issues that you want added or anything specific let me know16:13
andymccrotherwise, for Ocata, milestone 3 is the week of the 23rd (so 1.5 weeks to go!)16:13
andymccrafter that it's a feature freeze16:14
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asettlehttp://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/693558/blackadder-3-o.gif16:14
andymccranother reminder that any features for Ocata need to be going in now - and if you need help with anything specific again, let us know and we can discuss16:14
* andymccr drops mic16:15
asettleTerrrific16:15
asettleThank you16:15
asettleNext up16:15
asettle#topic Blueprint work16:15
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asettleWhich, is mhayden but he's busy being important and doesn't like us anymore so everyone be sad :(16:15
asettleandymccr: you haveeeeeee Upgrade testing!16:16
asettleAnddddd Trusty removal!16:16
asettle#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/upgrade-testing16:16
andymccroh yeah i need to close the trsuty removal one16:16
asettle#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/trusty-removal16:16
andymccr#action andymccr to close out the trusty-removal blueprint16:16
asettleOH MAN YOU TYPED FASTER16:16
asettleGood to hear, good to hear16:16
andymccrupgrade work is going along - work has started add an integrated build upgrade16:16
asettleUpdate on upgrade testing?16:16
palendae#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419116/16:16
asettleThanks andymccr16:17
asettlepalendae: would you like the mic?16:17
palendaeasettle: Sure16:17
* asettle hands over to palendae16:17
asettlehttps://68.media.tumblr.com/c15a8da483b3737bebc580db173559f6/tumblr_nevs1zFZjX1rg5dd5o5_250.gif16:18
palendaeThat link is about doing some refactoring with network code; it should be fairly straightfoward16:18
asettleAre you looking for reviews? :)16:18
palendaeAlso we have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410342/ for doing inventory storage plugins16:18
palendaeasettle: Yes, reviews welcome please :)16:18
asettle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410342/16:18
asettle#action team to review spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419116/16:19
palendaeThat's really all, looking for reviews16:19
asettleThanks palendae :)16:19
asettleMaybe we could start to have a weekly section with 'need reviews plz'16:19
asettleBut anyway, that aside.16:19
asettleTime forrrr16:19
andymccrprobably a good idea - highlight commits to review16:19
asettle#topic Open Discussion16:19
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andymccror a method of providing a link to do that16:19
palendaeandymccr: Like the core reviewer dashboard?16:20
asettleYeah, I think that would work. Anyone who has a review they want to be reviewed, we could do that.16:20
andymccrpalendae: exactly, but i think we could use it more efficiently16:20
andymccror effectively rather16:20
palendaeI think technically any change is one someone wants reviewed ;)16:20
asettlehttps://68.media.tumblr.com/5e3f48fc5b9bd36f695f82400ebb40be/tumblr_nzexp7Efvh1stt2imo1_500.gif16:20
andymccrpalendae: haha true16:20
palendaeBut agreed16:20
asettle#action Next week include 'review my patch' segment. Brought to you by the letter, P16:21
asettleOn that note homies, anyone got anything else to discuss?16:21
asettleevrardjp cloudnull and odyssey4me pinging you people before I close out the meeting and someone runs in saying something16:21
asettleAs always.16:21
asettle:p16:21
odyssey4me:)16:22
evrardjpNothing to say16:22
evrardjpthanks for asking16:22
asettleNein problemo16:22
mgariepyi'm currently finishing up the patching to have centos working to install AIO16:22
asettle\o/16:22
asettlehttps://68.media.tumblr.com/2691c56fd20945ebc5959fd44f7082de/tumblr_nz0dochroM1tq4of6o1_400.gif16:22
andymccrmgariepy: nice16:22
mgariepyif someone would like to tests that it would be nice.16:22
mgariepy:D16:22
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evrardjpwe have fixes to introduce indeed :p16:23
mgariepyi'm currently deploying and fixing stuff  that is broken.16:23
asettlehttps://media.giphy.com/media/10uUyk9rlUvmak/giphy.gif16:23
andymccrpermission granted.16:23
asettleBRAVO16:23
asettleAlright16:24
asettleOn that note16:24
asettleI think we're set16:24
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asettleI will leave you all with:16:24
asettlehttps://i.makeagif.com/media/2-07-2016/-9xXno.gif16:24
asettle#endmeeting16:24
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LouisF#startmeeting service_chaining17:14
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 12 17:14:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:14
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:14
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LouisFhi all apologies for late start - my train was late17:14
doonhammerHi all - happy new year17:14
bcafarelhi LouisF, no problem17:15
LouisFdoonhammer: happy new year17:15
pcarverhello17:15
LouisF#topic agenda17:16
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LouisFlast weeks we discussed the API ref, and the OSC client work17:16
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LouisFpcarver: is there progress on the api ref work?17:18
pcarverLouisF: Sort of, indirectly. I've been working on both bgpvpn and sfc API ref. I was having devstack issues which prevented me from doing verification of all examples.17:19
pcarverI've got it all sorted out on the bgpvpn side and running stack.sh right now on an sfc devstack.17:19
LouisFpcarver: thanks17:20
pcarverhopefully everything is all fixed up. Then I'm just going to run curl commands to validate the accuracy of all the examples and I should be done17:20
LouisFpcarver: great17:21
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LouisFmohankumar: great timing - how is sfc for osc work?17:21
mohankumarHi louis , its going good17:22
mohankumarGot some comments , will address tmrw17:22
LouisFhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/409759/  has some comments17:23
mohankumarLouisF: yes17:23
mohankumarWill address shortly17:23
LouisFmohankumar: when will you post a patch to address comments?17:23
LouisFmohankumar: ok thanks17:23
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mohankumarLouisF:  I wsbooked with othrt17:25
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LouisFmohankumar: ok understand17:25
LouisF#topic latest patches17:25
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LouisFlook like latest patches are encountering a tempest failure17:26
LouisFfor example http://logs.openstack.org/00/409800/2/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-networking-sfc-ubuntu-xenial/e7994eb/17:26
bcafarelindeed, I created https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1655618 for it17:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1655618 in networking-sfc "Tempest runs: intermittent single test failure" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Bernard Cafarelli (bcafarel)17:27
LouisFhttp://logs.openstack.org/62/409162/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-networking-sfc-multinode-ubuntu-xenial-nv/41b4466/17:28
LouisFbcafarel: thoughts on what the problem is?17:28
bcafarelLooks like a race condition, where a flow classifier from a previous test still is in database, when we want to create a new one17:29
bcafareltempest tests use a new port each time, but the parameters are the same17:29
bcafarelI followed up on igordcard email, as this is a problem he got recently:17:30
bcafarelflow classifiers with same parameters, but different logical ports17:30
bcafarelyou can create them, but they conflict when adding it to the port chain17:30
LouisFbcafarel: that is valid functionality to block that case17:31
bcafarelhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110025.html17:31
LouisFthe reason is that when re-classification is done when a packet is received from the egress port of a  SF17:32
LouisFthe N-tuple is the only way to distinguish the chain the packet is a part of17:32
LouisFso ... the classifier N-tuples must be different17:33
bcafarelah ok :/17:33
LouisFand hence the case Igor refers to where 2 classifers with same N-tuples but different logical source ports is blocked17:34
igordcardLouisF: so effectively it's 1 classification per port chain17:34
igordcardLouisF: no, 1 port chain per classification17:34
LouisFigordcard: yes17:34
igordcardtests on lines 602 and 1079 fail if the full conflict method is called: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419212/1/networking_sfc/tests/unit/db/test_sfc_db.py17:35
igordcardso this is another limitation of using the sfc-proxy in networking-sfc17:35
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igordcardwhich means that for the sfc graphs patch it's OK since the graphs require full encapsulation17:36
LouisFigordcard: agree - using nsh-aware SF will remove this problem17:36
LouisFthen there is no need for proxy devices17:36
igordcardLouisF: thanks for clarifying why the constraint exists17:37
LouisFigordcard: np17:37
igordcardgreat17:37
bcafarelthanks, I will look for another solution for the tempest failure then17:37
LouisFbcafarel: is there a way to enure the db is flushed after a test?17:38
LouisFensure17:38
bcafarelI do not know yet, but I will look into it, as this would fix the problem indeed17:38
LouisFbcafarel: ok thanks17:39
LouisFbcafarel: maybe post a question to openstack-infra for help17:40
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LouisFbcafarel: thanks17:41
bcafarelLouisF: np, I will also check with tempest folks17:41
LouisF#topic ocata work17:42
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LouisFsymmetric chain patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410482/17:42
LouisFall  - please review17:43
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LouisFsfc graph patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388802/17:43
LouisFall - please review17:43
LouisFdoonhammer: on ovn integration - i see you posted a patch to ovs17:44
igordcardLouisF: yep that is not expected to have any further changes except its dependency17:44
LouisFigordcard: thanks17:45
igordcardLouisF: sfc graph api patch will not depend on the nsh patch anymore, but rather on a different patch I will submit, which simply enables MPLS encap without proxying17:45
doonhammerLouisF: Yes trying it in17:45
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doonhammeror at least reviewed17:45
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LouisFdoonhammer: for the sfc to ovn driver - have you started work on that?17:46
doonhammerLouisF: I have a version but it is pretty old17:47
LouisFdoonhammer: that is on github?17:47
doonhammerLouisF: yes17:47
LouisFdo you need help on that?17:48
doonhammerLouisF: Would appreciate it17:48
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LouisFall - volunteers on sfc/ovn driver welcome17:49
igordcardjust 1 thing, I've also submitted a graph patch including db and plugin logic/code, I'm not expecting major changes to it so I'd say it's ready for an initial review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419212/17:49
LouisFigordcard: thanks - all please review17:50
LouisF#topic other items17:51
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LouisFany other items to discuss?17:51
igordcardLouisF: is the team going to the PTG?17:51
LouisFigordcard: i don't think i will be there - not sure about cathy17:52
LouisFthis is in atlanta in feb https://www.openstack.org/ptg/17:53
LouisFok anything else?17:54
LouisFok thanks all17:55
LouisFbye17:55
igordcardI will be there, if anyone from the team can come, great17:55
igordcardbye17:55
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LouisF#endmeeting17:55
bcafarelI will be there too17:55
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