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| oanson | #startmeeting Dragonflow | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 5 09:00:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:00 |
| dimak | Good morning | 09:00 |
| xiaohhui | Heel | 09:00 |
| xiaohhui | Hello | 09:00 |
| oanson | Hi | 09:00 |
| hujie | Hi | 09:00 |
| oanson | Agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Dragonflow | 09:01 |
| irenab | hi | 09:01 |
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| yuli_s | hello | 09:01 |
| lihi | Hi | 09:01 |
| oanson | #info dimak xiaohhui hujie irenab yuli_s lihi is in meeting | 09:01 |
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| oanson | All right. Let's get this show on the road | 09:02 |
| oanson | #topic Ocata Roadmap | 09:02 |
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| oanson | lihi, you want to update us on IPv6? | 09:02 |
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| lihi | There is an issue with the fullstack tests and IPv6 | 09:03 |
| lihi | I'm working on that. Should upload a patch soon | 09:04 |
| oanson | Great. | 09:04 |
| lihi | After that I'll be able to write the tests for the NS responser | 09:04 |
| oanson | Anything that makes fullstack more stable is very well accepted :) | 09:04 |
| lihi | And then I'll upload it too | 09:04 |
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| oanson | Great. Thanks! | 09:05 |
| oanson | dimak, any news on SFC? | 09:05 |
| dimak | I've uploaded some patches that don't do much yet | 09:05 |
| dimak | mainly code that connects sfc drivers with the ryu apps though nb api | 09:06 |
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| dimak | I have some ideas to remove duplicate code around NB api and db store | 09:06 |
| dimak | and maybe make ryu app base slimmer | 09:06 |
| oanson | Great. | 09:06 |
| lihi | sounds good | 09:06 |
| dimak | some of this is in https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/dragonflow+branch:master+topic:bp/service-function-chaining | 09:07 |
| hujie | +1 | 09:07 |
| oanson | dimak, that code is WF-1. Should we start sending comments? Or wait till it's more mature? | 09:07 |
| dimak | I'll move the refactoring code underneath all the sfc stuff | 09:08 |
| dimak | so it can be reviewed without the sfc noise | 09:08 |
| dimak | and get in without waiting for sfc | 09:08 |
| oanson | If your changes are not directly related, you can just place them in unrelated patches | 09:08 |
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| oanson | If you then need two changes as parents, you can use the Depends-On commit tag. | 09:08 |
| oanson | If that helps | 09:08 |
| dimak | Oh, I'll try that :) | 09:09 |
| dimak | thats about all | 09:09 |
| oanson | I noticed that when the patch chains get too long, it becomes a headache to maintain, especially for the developer | 09:09 |
| dimak | I'll update when I have more concrete | 09:09 |
| oanson | Great. Thanks! | 09:09 |
| dimak | I prefer longer chains with concrete changes :) | 09:09 |
| oanson | Up to you | 09:10 |
| oanson | :) | 09:10 |
| oanson | Chassis liveness | 09:10 |
| oanson | xiaohhui? | 09:10 |
| xiaohhui | I haven't started yet | 09:10 |
| xiaohhui | I plan to do it after virtual tunnel port | 09:10 |
| oanson | No worries. I see you are doing a lot of other things in parallel :) | 09:10 |
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| oanson | Wasn't that merged? | 09:11 |
| xiaohhui | As they both changes lots of stuff of chassis | 09:11 |
| xiaohhui | Not all the code | 09:11 |
| oanson | I see. | 09:12 |
| xiaohhui | I put some other code in the review board | 09:12 |
| oanson | I see | 09:12 |
| xiaohhui | I am on my mobile, so I can't put the link here | 09:13 |
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| oanson | #link virtual tunnel port support https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/dragonflow+branch:master+topic:bp/virtual-tunnel-port-support | 09:13 |
| xiaohhui | But that should be ok for the status | 09:13 |
| xiaohhui | Thanks oanson | 09:13 |
| oanson | np :) | 09:13 |
| xiaohhui | I mean that should be all for the status | 09:14 |
| oanson | rajivk, I see there are some comments on the service status reporting spec | 09:14 |
| oanson | Anything that needs to be discussed here? | 09:15 |
| oanson | (Also hujie, nick-ma_ ) | 09:15 |
| rajivk | I would like more comments | 09:15 |
| irenab | rajivk: link tothe patch? | 09:15 |
| rajivk | i have put different approaches for a few things, if someone can comment on them, it will be great. | 09:15 |
| oanson | #link service status reporting spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402395/ | 09:16 |
| oanson | All right. I'll review it by tomorrow | 09:16 |
| hujie | I'm do some refactor job and bug fix, and I plan to commit db consistent logic between neutron db and df db | 09:16 |
| rajivk | If that is ok, i will put updated patch for it. | 09:16 |
| xiaohhui | I will check it. | 09:16 |
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| nick-ma_ | hi alll | 09:17 |
| lihi | I'll also check it | 09:17 |
| oanson | hujie, I'm looking forward to it :) | 09:17 |
| hujie | :) | 09:17 |
| oanson | I'm interested to know how you wrote it, since it will be useful for migration too | 09:17 |
| oanson | nick-ma_, hi | 09:17 |
| hujie | ok, but the main logic is similar to the south:) | 09:18 |
| oanson | That makes sense | 09:18 |
| oanson | I'm guessing it will sit on the Neutron service, or its own service? | 09:19 |
| hujie | yes | 09:19 |
| hujie | a separate service | 09:19 |
| oanson | Sounds great | 09:19 |
| hujie | :) | 09:19 |
| oanson | TAPaaS - yuli_s any comments? Anything that needs to be discussed here? | 09:20 |
| yuli_s | sure | 09:20 |
| yuli_s | please take a look at the last version of spec | 09:20 |
| yuli_s | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396307/ | 09:21 |
| oanson | #link TAP as a service spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396307/ | 09:21 |
| oanson | I see a lot of work was done yesterday :) | 09:21 |
| oanson | I'll review it today too | 09:21 |
| yuli_s | yes ! | 09:21 |
| yuli_s | thanks, | 09:22 |
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| oanson | I also saw that the position variable issue was resolved | 09:22 |
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| oanson | Which is also great | 09:22 |
| yuli_s | yes, | 09:22 |
| yuli_s | and we have a solution for cycles | 09:22 |
| yuli_s | of packets | 09:23 |
| oanson | Care to share? | 09:23 |
| yuli_s | as opposed to neutron | 09:23 |
| yuli_s | yes, check the document | 09:23 |
| oanson | All right. I'll stay in suspense until I do :) | 09:23 |
| yuli_s | ok ;) | 09:24 |
| oanson | ishafran, any news about anonymous sNAT? | 09:24 |
| oanson | I saw that the spec was updated earlier too | 09:24 |
| ishafran | I would like to get latest patch set #9 of spec approved | 09:24 |
| oanson | Anything that has to be discussed here? | 09:24 |
| ishafran | nothing except spec :) | 09:25 |
| oanson | All right. I'll look at it as well :) | 09:25 |
| oanson | denghui isn't here to discuss LBaaS, so we'll skip it this week. | 09:26 |
| oanson | I think I reached a stable state in Dragonflow deployment with OSA | 09:26 |
| nick-ma_ | great news. | 09:27 |
| oanson | #link Openstack-ansible dragonflow patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391524/ | 09:27 |
| oanson | I am now waiting for reviews. If anyone wants to try it out and find all the hidden bugs I put in :) | 09:27 |
| dimak | I'll try to deploy it :) | 09:28 |
| oanson | Anything else for roadmap? | 09:28 |
| oanson | dimak, go for it! Wear a hard-hat :) | 09:28 |
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| oanson | They have a tox environment (tox -e dragonflow) that installs the bare minimum | 09:29 |
| oanson | including neutron and dragonflow | 09:29 |
| oanson | Anything else for roadmap? | 09:29 |
| qwebirc45930 | Have you guys had a chance to review the new classifier spec | 09:30 |
| qwebirc45930 | ? | 09:30 |
| irenab | yes, I did | 09:30 |
| hujie | I have reviewed it :) | 09:30 |
| hujie | any problem? | 09:30 |
| oanson | #link Separation Classification app spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404622/ | 09:31 |
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| oanson | qwebirc45930? | 09:31 |
| qwebirc45930 | So how should we continue with it? | 09:32 |
| oanson | All right. It looks like its pretty far along. | 09:32 |
| oanson | We'll wait for a few more reviews. | 09:32 |
| oanson | If there are no objections, we'll merge it later this week | 09:33 |
| qwebirc45930 | Great | 09:33 |
| nick-ma_ | i will review it later. | 09:33 |
| oanson | nick-ma_, thanks! | 09:33 |
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| oanson | Anything else for roadmap? | 09:34 |
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| oanson | #topic Bugs | 09:34 |
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| oanson | There are bugs. | 09:35 |
| hujie | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406751/ | 09:35 |
| oanson | But as I said a few weeks ago, I want to concentrate on features and code cleanup now. And crack down on bugs later (say 2-3 weeks from now) | 09:35 |
| hujie | dpdk config bug :) | 09:36 |
| oanson | hujie, fullstack fails in that patch. Connection to Neutron fails (at a quick glance) | 09:37 |
| nick-ma_ | yes, i'm checking it. | 09:37 |
| hujie | ok I see | 09:37 |
| rajivk | oanson, if you need my help for code cleaning, i am available. | 09:37 |
| oanson | rajivk, thanks. | 09:38 |
| oanson | I'll have to get back to you - there is a lot of work done by xiaohhui, dimak, and hujie, and I got a bit lost at who's doing what :) | 09:38 |
| rajivk | oanson, i will try my best to help you :) | 09:39 |
| oanson | Thanks! Greatly appreciated! | 09:39 |
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| oanson | Anything else for bugs? | 09:39 |
| rajivk | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320398/ | 09:39 |
| rajivk | I have submitted patch for it. i am having problem for fullstack tests. | 09:40 |
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| rajivk | Can someone help me with them? | 09:40 |
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| xiaohhui | I have a similar patch. Maybe you could use it | 09:41 |
| xiaohhui | I am still on mobile | 09:41 |
| rajivk | :) | 09:41 |
| oanson | rajivk, I can look into it as well | 09:41 |
| rajivk | thanks | 09:41 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, do you remember the name of the patch, and I'll add the link? | 09:42 |
| xiaohhui | Dhcp options | 09:42 |
| xiaohhui | I try to add some other dhcp options | 09:42 |
| rajivk | May be we can list down, all the options and take them one by one. | 09:43 |
| oanson | #link Support default route from port extra dhcp options https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401964/1 | 09:43 |
| xiaohhui | Yes, this one | 09:43 |
| oanson | Maybe a list/map from option name to function that generates option data, | 09:43 |
| oanson | if the function returns none, skip that option | 09:43 |
| oanson | I am now working on a big refactor for dhcp app. | 09:43 |
| oanson | I'll add it there | 09:44 |
| oanson | (Or as a followup) | 09:44 |
| oanson | Anything else for bugs? | 09:44 |
| oanson | #topic Open Discussion | 09:45 |
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| oanson | @snapiri suggested we review the code in df_local_controller | 09:46 |
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| oanson | Many functions (mostly delete) receive object IDs only to fetch them from db_store | 09:46 |
| oanson | And many callers of these functions already have the object available. | 09:47 |
| oanson | snapiri suggests duplicating the api - one for id, and one for object (since there is no real overloading in python) | 09:47 |
| oanson | The ID api can call the object api, so there shoudn't be code duplication. | 09:47 |
| oanson | Any thoughts? | 09:47 |
| dimak | sounds reasonable | 09:48 |
| dimak | there is also a lot of 'create or update' code | 09:48 |
| dimak | fetch original => check if none => check version | 09:48 |
| dimak | maybe we can do something about it | 09:49 |
| hujie | this patch is my first step to refactor the code: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406114/ | 09:49 |
| hujie | I'll use update instead of create/update method | 09:49 |
| oanson | Sounds like the right direction. | 09:50 |
| rajivk | hujie: your patch is very big, can you please break it into smaller pieces, it will help in reviewing. | 09:50 |
| oanson | I would have preferred to keep them separated, but it really looks like the two methods are always very similar | 09:50 |
| rajivk | i would prefer separated one's as well. | 09:51 |
| hujie | yes, it's very similar :) | 09:51 |
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| rajivk | May be we can create one more method, which has common code. | 09:51 |
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| rajivk | and both of the original method call's it. What do you think? | 09:52 |
| oanson | We will have to review how each solution pans out, and select the best one. | 09:52 |
| oanson | In general this sounds like a good idea. | 09:52 |
| oanson | We should just make sure we don't end up with two identical functions calling the common code, just to keep the create/update separation | 09:52 |
| hujie | I have deleted the create method indeed :) | 09:52 |
| oanson | Maybe a fallback for create? on create call the create method, and if it doesn't exist, call the update method? | 09:53 |
| dimak | we can but I'm not sure a standalone create method is justified here, update has to take care of create anyway | 09:53 |
| hujie | I think update is enough, while other resources have the update/delete method to cover all the scenario | 09:54 |
| oanson | dimak wrote a _CRUDHelper class which holds stubs for create and update (for nb_api, but he says there should be a similar one for df_controller). Maybe something along these lines? | 09:54 |
| oanson | All right. Then lets stick to update only. We can always add create methods later, on in specific cases | 09:54 |
| dimak | 1 sec I'll send a link | 09:54 |
| hujie | ok great | 09:54 |
| dimak | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406599/1/dragonflow/db/api_nb.py | 09:55 |
| oanson | #link CRUDHelper https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406599/1/dragonflow/db/api_nb.py | 09:55 |
| oanson | Anything else on this? | 09:56 |
| oanson | The floor is for the taking. | 09:56 |
| oanson | All right. Great meeting. Great work! | 09:57 |
| oanson | I think its a good sign that there is so much being done that I can't keep up :) | 09:57 |
| dimak | Thanks, good bye! | 09:57 |
| nick-ma_ | thanks. | 09:57 |
| irenab | thanks | 09:57 |
| rajivk | thanks | 09:57 |
| lihi | Thanks | 09:57 |
| hujie | thx bye | 09:57 |
| xiaohhui | Bye | 09:57 |
| oanson | #endmeeting | 09:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 5 09:57:47 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-12-05-09.00.html | 09:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-12-05-09.00.txt | 09:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-12-05-09.00.log.html | 09:57 |
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| gnuoy | Hi, there is a new checms meeting scheduled now | 10:02 |
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| gnuoy | However, an announcment hasn't been sent out yet | 10:02 |
| tinwood | hello | 10:03 |
| gnuoy | If you're here for that meeting give me a wave otherwise I'll postpone till after the announcment has been sent | 10:03 |
| tinwood | o/ | 10:04 |
| gnuoy | tinwood, I think it's just you and I so lets postpone. | 10:05 |
| tinwood | gnuoy, okay, sounds reasonable. | 10:05 |
| gnuoy | I was going to say for a fortnight but | 10:05 |
| gnuoy | thats a holiday in lots of parts of the world | 10:05 |
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| tinwood | indeed. | 10:06 |
| tinwood | How about the new year. | 10:06 |
| gnuoy | Yeah, I think Jan 9th for this slot is most likely | 10:06 |
| tinwood | Sounds good to me. | 10:06 |
| gnuoy | kk | 10:07 |
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| apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 5 14:04:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | Hello and welcome to another kuryr weekly IRC meeting | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | who's here today? | 14:04 |
| ivc_ | o7 | 14:05 |
| irenab | hi | 14:05 |
| lmdaly | o/ | 14:05 |
| limao | o/ | 14:05 |
| mattmceuen | o/ | 14:05 |
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| yedongcan | o/ | 14:05 |
| garyloug | o/ | 14:05 |
| mchiappero | o/ | 14:05 |
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| janonymous | \o/ | 14:05 |
| mchiappero | :D | 14:05 |
| apuimedo | welcome to all of you :-) | 14:06 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-lib | 14:06 |
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| alraddarla_ | o/ | 14:06 |
| apuimedo | #info last week we released kuryr-lib 0.2.0. This release marks the last of our direct development of new features in the openstack/kuryr repository. It was agreed that from now on new features go into kuryr-libnetwork and kuryr-kubernetes and then they move to openstack/kuryr | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | anybody has anything about kuryr-lib? | 14:08 |
| mchiappero | uhm, I don't have anything specific in mind but I guess there might be some changes/refactoring there | 14:08 |
| mchiappero | well, one thing (yet has to be decided) is whether we want to add a mean to avoid the binding drivers to set the IP addresses | 14:09 |
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| apuimedo | mchiappero: yes. There is refactoring coming up | 14:09 |
| hongbin | o/ | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | but not before we finish container-in-vm for both kuryr-libnetwork and kuryr-kubernetes | 14:09 |
| mchiappero | although I would really like to have some clear well defined replies on libnetwork first | 14:09 |
| mchiappero | no ok, I see | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: since you bring it up | 14:10 |
| mchiappero | it seems to work anyway :) | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-libnetwork | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kuryr-libnetwork (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:10 | |
| apuimedo | We merged mchiappero and lmdaly's fix so that now we create and delete the devices on the proper docker REST calls: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394547/ | 14:11 |
| mchiappero | thank you all! :) | 14:11 |
| lmdaly | +1 :) | 14:11 |
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| apuimedo | ltomasbo confirmed that with this (as was intended) we'll not have leftover container devices :-) | 14:12 |
| apuimedo | so now we have a bit of a funny but good situation | 14:12 |
| mchiappero | I have something I would like to mention | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | we have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402462/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400365/ | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | and they don't overlap on goals, but they may overlap partly on how they go about solving the needs they have | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: go ahead | 14:14 |
| mchiappero | related to the previous patch, we experienced some issues with an old version of Neutron (6.0.0) that had a bug exposed by that patch | 14:15 |
| mchiappero | however I came to know by I coleague of mine that neutronclient is going to be deprecated in favour of openstackclient | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | the mac address limitation | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | ? | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | I thought that deprecation is only for the cli aspect of it | 14:16 |
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| apuimedo | and that openstackclient will continue consuming neutronclient's code as a library | 14:16 |
| mchiappero | oh, ok, I didn't know, I wanted to check with you :) | 14:16 |
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| apuimedo | irenab: limao: can you confirm? | 14:16 |
| mchiappero | so, anyway, we will do more testing, but I guess the advice is to use a fairly recent version of Neutron | 14:17 |
| irenab | apuimedo: I am not sure, can check and update | 14:17 |
| limao | Sorry, I get disconnected at last min | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | ok | 14:17 |
| limao | can you repeat it one time.. | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | limao: sure | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | limao: it was about python-neutronclient. mchiappero said that he heard it is deprecated and I said that I thought only the cli part is deprecated and openstackclient will continue consuming it | 14:18 |
| apuimedo | (as a library) | 14:18 |
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| hongbin | i think yes, openstackclient is the replacement of hte cli part, the python client part should continue to work | 14:19 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: thanks! | 14:20 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: ;-) | 14:20 |
| limao | apuimedo: yes, cli part will be openstackclient | 14:20 |
| mchiappero | good, makes sense | 14:20 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: lmdaly: did you review ltomasbo's patch? | 14:21 |
| mchiappero | no, I'm sorry, I have little time lately | 14:21 |
| lmdaly | no, not the most recent update | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | I would appreciate if you could review it | 14:22 |
| mchiappero | I will | 14:22 |
| ltomasbo | me too :) | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | it seems it is ready to merge, and if you could point out incompatibilities | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | between your approaches | 14:22 |
| lmdaly | yep will do! | 14:22 |
| mchiappero | so, would that prevent our patch from merging? | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | we can discuss and reach consensus | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: may be | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | that's why I want your review | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | to minimize conflict | 14:23 |
| mchiappero | ok, I'll do, I would like to get all the comments collected and the issues sorted ASAP | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | #action mchiappero lmdaly ltomasbo to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400365/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402462/ | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: agreed! | 14:23 |
| mchiappero | so that both can be merged quickly | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | yup. I want to merge them latest on Wednesday | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | but I don't always get what I want | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | Anything else on kuryr-libnetwork? | 14:24 |
| mchiappero | cool :) we are a bit behind for the UT but will try to run fast | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: remember to add people as reviewers https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406636/ | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:24 |
| mchiappero | ok :) | 14:24 |
| mchiappero | one last thing | 14:26 |
| mchiappero | I was actually forgetting | 14:26 |
| apuimedo | http://timhandotme.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/steve-jobs-one-last-thing-wwdc-2007.jpg | 14:26 |
| apuimedo | xD | 14:26 |
| mchiappero | the code for IPVLAN and MACVLAN, unless something changes in the kernel drivers, is the same | 14:26 |
| apuimedo | go ahead | 14:26 |
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| mchiappero | however IPVLAN is not going to work at the moment, do we want to prevent it from loading, right? | 14:27 |
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| mchiappero | I mean, the binding driver to be used by kuryr-libnetwork | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: We can just log an error | 14:28 |
| mchiappero | what do you mean exactly? | 14:28 |
| mchiappero | at runtime or start-up time or what? | 14:28 |
| ltomasbo | why IPVLAN is not going to work? due to the ovs with same mac problem? | 14:29 |
| apuimedo | well, if people try to load the ipvlan driver, we just LOG error and raise exception | 14:29 |
| mchiappero | ltomasbo: yes | 14:29 |
| mchiappero | ltomasbo: well, ovs...? no | 14:29 |
| ltomasbo | but a neutron port is created, and it is included in allowed_pairs | 14:29 |
| ltomasbo | can we just take the MAC of the new created subport for the ipvlan? | 14:29 |
| mchiappero | apuimedo: ok :) | 14:29 |
| ltomasbo | or is there a kernel restriction to create the ipvlan device with a different mac than the main device is attached to? | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: and please create a big TODO(mchiappero) that says when we can remove the error | 14:30 |
| mchiappero | ltomasbo: the second one :) let's continue on the kuryr channel | 14:30 |
| ltomasbo | ok | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: mchiappero said that there is that restriction, but that it could easily be fixed in kernel | 14:30 |
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| ltomasbo | ok, great to know! I was not aware of that | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | #topic fuxi | 14:31 |
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| mchiappero | I would have another topic, but not for this meeting, but I want to mention it before I forget | 14:31 |
| mchiappero | :D | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: in the open discussion section ;-) | 14:31 |
| mchiappero | sure | 14:31 |
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| apuimedo | #info hongbin got a few patches merged and posted a devstack patch. I think it looks okay. It has a problem in fedora that was pointed out, but it should be fixed soon | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | #chair hongbin | 14:32 |
| openstack | Current chairs: apuimedo hongbin | 14:32 |
| hongbin | hi | 14:32 |
| hongbin | last week, i tried to setup same basic fullstack test | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: please, update us :-) | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | good! | 14:33 |
| hongbin | for example, create a volume with fuxi driver | 14:33 |
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| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403931/ | 14:33 |
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| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403941/ | 14:33 |
| hongbin | They are on merge conflict now, i will resolve them | 14:33 |
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| hongbin | After the fullstack tests are merged, the next step is to setup the CI | 14:33 |
| hongbin | for the old reviews, apuimedo gave a good feedback on the devstack plugin patch | 14:34 |
| hongbin | i will address his comment soon | 14:34 |
| hongbin | then, you will have the devstack plugin to setup fuxi | 14:34 |
| hongbin | the last thing is the review queue. Thanks all who performed reviews. We need more help on that :) | 14:35 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/fuxi | 14:35 |
| hongbin | apuimedo: that is all from me | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | thanks a lot hongbin! | 14:35 |
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| apuimedo | very nice update! | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-kubernetes | 14:35 |
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| ivc_ | services/endpoints is WIP, will prolly push something this week | 14:36 |
| apuimedo | #info: Last week we made some devstack improvements (still some left to do when restacking) | 14:36 |
| apuimedo | #info ivc_ pushed the initial CNI driver support. https://review.openstack.org/404038 . It looks practically ready for merging | 14:37 |
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| apuimedo | once we have this, we have to enable the gates (I posted a devstack install patch that I have to fix) | 14:37 |
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| apuimedo | and after those two pieces are there, just as hongbin is doing for fuxi, we need to start with the fullstack tests and put them as gates | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: you'll push them with polling I suppose | 14:38 |
| ivc_ | yup | 14:38 |
| ivc_ | for now | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | very well | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | #action ivc_ to push reworked versions of the services/endpoints patch | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | anything else about kuryr-kubernetes? | 14:40 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo most likely it will have the same API logic as the current VIFDriver's activate_vif | 14:40 |
| irenab | when do we want to push devref? | 14:40 |
| ivc_ | whenever you think it is ready :P | 14:40 |
| ivc_ | i dont think we should wait for CNI | 14:40 |
| ivc_ | so i'd say leave CNI part as-is | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | irenab: I propose to push it for the part we have merged | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | then we draft the CNI and services part | 14:41 |
| irenab | apuimedo: ivc_ agreed | 14:41 |
| * apuimedo winks at writing "we draft" | 14:41 | |
| irenab | apuimedo: I will push a devref during this week | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | great irenab! | 14:42 |
| ivc_ | irenab, you want to keep my diagram for pipeline or will you redraw it with EArchitect? | 14:42 |
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| apuimedo | Your work with that gdoc is excellent, it helped me put in order my head (I made slides out of it) | 14:42 |
| ivc_ | aye, awesome work, irenab :) | 14:42 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: irenab: If you don't mind, I'll try replacing those diagrams with pngs and have the source in the repo in an open format | 14:43 |
| irenab | puting ivc_ ideas on paper (not code) was indeed a challenge | 14:43 |
| apuimedo | I was checking https://www.modelio.org/ | 14:43 |
| irenab | apuimedo: sounds good, will check | 14:44 |
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| apuimedo | irenab: I don't mind doing it if you prefer to spend the time with the rest of the devref | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | anything else, anybody? | 14:44 |
| irenab | apuimedo: will be great, thanks | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | #topic Open Discussion | 14:46 |
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| apuimedo | mchiappero: your turn | 14:46 |
| mchiappero | I noticed that the way kuryr-libnetwork there is no support for both IPv4 and IPv6 | 14:48 |
| mchiappero | *kuryr-libnetwork is | 14:48 |
| mchiappero | I mean at the same time | 14:48 |
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| mchiappero | when you receive a request for address a port is created, I would assume libnetwork preforms two such calls for a V4 and V6 address, so two separate ports would get created | 14:49 |
| mchiappero | I could not test as libnetwork doesn't seems to actually use IPv6 even when asked | 14:50 |
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| mchiappero | but I guess this might (should) happen at some point | 14:50 |
| apuimedo | right | 14:50 |
| mchiappero | so | 14:50 |
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| mchiappero | there aren't many solutions, basically two | 14:51 |
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| mchiappero | either not reserving at RequestAddress, or rejoining the two ports into a single one as soon as we can correlate the two IP addresses as belonging to the same endpoint (at CreateEndpoint time) | 14:51 |
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| mchiappero | but it's something more long term, I guess | 14:52 |
| apuimedo | I'm more for the latter | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: do we have a bug or blueprint for that? | 14:54 |
| mchiappero | I don't know, I'm not sure if someone else managed instead to test both IPv4 and IPv6 together | 14:54 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: I don't think so | 14:55 |
| mchiappero | yes, the latter is more safe | 14:55 |
| apuimedo | I think everybody that reported was either 6 or 4 | 14:55 |
| mchiappero | but in theory it should take a fraction of seconds to move from RequestAddress to CreateEndpoint, so creating those two ports might not be a huge safety advantage | 14:56 |
| mchiappero | oh, ok, does anybody know why they prevent the use of both? | 14:56 |
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| apuimedo | I don't :( | 14:57 |
| mchiappero | ok.. that's all from me | 14:57 |
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| apuimedo | thanks mchiappero! | 14:58 |
| apuimedo | please, file a bug/bp! | 14:58 |
| apuimedo | So we can look at it and have better discussion | 14:58 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:58 |
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| apuimedo | thank you all for joining the meeting! | 14:58 |
| mchiappero | I'll do | 14:58 |
| apuimedo | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 5 14:58:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-12-05-14.04.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-12-05-14.04.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-12-05-14.04.log.html | 14:58 |
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| sigmavirus | #startmeeting craton | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 5 15:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sigmavirus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'craton' | 15:00 |
| sigmavirus | #chair jimbaker | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: jimbaker sigmavirus | 15:00 |
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| sigmavirus | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/craton-meetings | 15:00 |
| sigmavirus | #topic Roll Call | 15:01 |
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| sigmavirus | o/ | 15:01 |
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| sulo | o/ | 15:03 |
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| sigmavirus | Looks like it's just the two of us sulo | 15:04 |
| sulo | :( | 15:04 |
| * sigmavirus shrugs | 15:05 | |
| sigmavirus | #topic Updates | 15:05 |
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| sigmavirus | Any updates on your end sulo ? | 15:05 |
| sulo | not much other than i've update thew wf blueprint | 15:05 |
| sulo | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/craton/+spec/craton-workflow-engine | 15:05 |
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| sulo | so i am working mosting on that | 15:08 |
| sulo | most of it i have it in some form in code | 15:08 |
| sulo | but watned to put that up for discussion | 15:08 |
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| jimbaker | o/ | 15:09 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, sulo, sorry, overslept here :) | 15:09 |
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| sulo | jimbaker: np, we just started | 15:10 |
| * sigmavirus is just back from vacation | 15:10 | |
| jimbaker | sulo, thanks for that blueprint | 15:10 |
| sigmavirus | I see tojuvone and toan are joining us today | 15:10 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: any concise updates for us today? | 15:10 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, right, conciseness is something i could work on... | 15:11 |
| jimbaker | i have been working on blueprints about virtualized variables and how secrets are stored in craton | 15:11 |
| jimbaker | virtualized variables are fairly straightforward, especially because we have discussed them at length | 15:12 |
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| jimbaker | secrets are potentially a rabbit hole that go as deep as we want it to go | 15:13 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: so secrets are back? | 15:13 |
| Syed__ | o/ | 15:13 |
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| jimbaker | sigmavirus, how else are we able to execute against target nodes? or against remote resources for virtualized variables? | 15:14 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: a simple yes or no is all I need :) | 15:15 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, yes | 15:15 |
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| sigmavirus | (not trying to pick a fight) | 15:15 |
| sulo | heh, secrets are b a c k !! | 15:15 |
| sigmavirus | or are they in the back? With the cookies? :P | 15:15 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, i'm just trying to pick a scheme where we have secrets, but really it's deferred to another system | 15:16 |
| sulo | sigmavirus: yes yes ;) | 15:16 |
| sigmavirus | okay | 15:16 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: what happened to gathering requirements and rbac? | 15:17 |
| jimbaker | anyway, it's a topic we will have to discuss in greater depth | 15:17 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: let's queue that for tomorrow's video meeting? | 15:17 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, requirements were further gathered | 15:17 |
| sigmavirus | good | 15:18 |
| jimbaker | so good discussion with rackspace private cloud about what they need | 15:18 |
| sigmavirus | woot | 15:18 |
| jimbaker | we will be working on taking that doc and publishing on a public etherpad this week | 15:18 |
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| jimbaker | sigmavirus, with respect to rbac, i think we need to gather more feedback on the blueprint i put out last week | 15:19 |
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| sigmavirus | Fair, I didn't have enough time to review it then. It's on my list for today | 15:19 |
| * sigmavirus crosses fingers hoping to get to it | 15:20 | |
| Syed__ | i believe it would be better to discuss rbac in tomorrow's vidyo | 15:20 |
| jimbaker | anyway, vidyo meeting on all three tomorrow sounds good | 15:20 |
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| sigmavirus | Syed__: any uupdates? | 15:20 |
| sigmavirus | or just updates, either way | 15:20 |
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| Syed__ | yeah. been working on gathering information for Rbac | 15:20 |
| Syed__ | i have one patch in the queue. Today will try uploading two more for networks tests and routes.py tests | 15:20 |
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| sulo | ok lets move on ? | 15:23 |
| jimbaker | +1 | 15:24 |
| sigmavirus | sulo: move on to? | 15:24 |
| sigmavirus | Priority Reviews maybe? | 15:24 |
| sigmavirus | #topic Priority Reviews | 15:24 |
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| sulo | i dont have any reviews pending :) | 15:24 |
| sulo | however, not sure if git-harry is in today .. but he has a lot of open review that | 15:25 |
| jimbaker | at this point, it's really git-harry | 15:25 |
| git-harry | I'm in but need to go in 2 minutes. Saw the -2, will rework (probably go back to my original patch) | 15:26 |
| jimbaker | with the bulk of reviews. but i think the root has been -2 by me, so need to revisit | 15:26 |
| sulo | yeah so i was goint to say they need review that i've -1'ed | 15:26 |
| sulo | but i thik those are teh ones that are in chain and have a -2 on endpoint | 15:26 |
| sulo | jimbaker: yeah i think thats right | 15:26 |
| jimbaker | git-harry, so we agreed to keep /v1/hosts, /v1/regions, etc | 15:27 |
| git-harry | Yeah, I saw that | 15:27 |
| jimbaker | i guess no dispute on /v1/regions... anyway | 15:27 |
| jimbaker | so keep flat, but actually make it work for querying more generally | 15:27 |
| jimbaker | we could start by removing region_id as a required param | 15:28 |
| git-harry | Yeah, it's fine. | 15:28 |
| jimbaker | which presumably should just work with the python-cratonclient as it is | 15:28 |
| git-harry | Anyway, gotta go | 15:29 |
| tojuvone | hieulq, yes here, have overlapping meeting. Need to go soon. | 15:29 |
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| jimbaker | git-harry, np, thanks for looking into this | 15:30 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, so am i'm correct on python-cratonclient? | 15:30 |
| sulo | yeah it should work without change .. atleast the api .. as region_id is something that is passed | 15:31 |
| sulo | so should work with minimal change if any | 15:31 |
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| sigmavirus | jimbaker: I'm not sure what you're talking about, I'd need a link to brush up on it and confirmd/eny | 15:31 |
| jimbaker | yeah, it's just a question of whether the client is specifically checking for this param or not | 15:32 |
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| jimbaker | but agreed about minimal change (if any) | 15:32 |
| jimbaker | going forward, it's certainly easy for the client - just needs to handle pagination as necessary | 15:33 |
| jimbaker | that's it for priority reviews - i see that Syed__ just put in something into review a few minutes ago | 15:35 |
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| Syed__ | There is one another for me | 15:36 |
| Syed__ | For network endpoints | 15:36 |
| Syed__ | The one for networks is actually dependent for me for routes and networks tests | 15:36 |
| Syed__ | :) | 15:36 |
| jimbaker | Syed__, url ? | 15:37 |
| jimbaker | of the review | 15:37 |
| jimbaker | is this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400977/ ? | 15:37 |
| Syed__ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400977/ | 15:37 |
| Syed__ | Yeap | 15:37 |
| Syed__ | Thats the one jim | 15:37 |
| jimbaker | ok, i will test. especially since sulo hasn't actually tested it directly | 15:38 |
| Syed__ | Sure | 15:38 |
| Syed__ | Thank you | 15:38 |
| jimbaker | Syed__, were you able to add a functional test to this change? | 15:39 |
| jimbaker | (now that we have functional testing, we should be using it for future changes....) | 15:39 |
| Syed__ | No this change doesnt needs one i believe | 15:39 |
| Syed__ | I will add more functional tests for regions, cells etc this week | 15:39 |
| Syed__ | Will raise bugs individually for those | 15:39 |
| sulo | Syed__: you can leave them .. i have them already | 15:40 |
| jimbaker | Syed__, i', pretty sure if there's an endpoint involved, it will require one :) | 15:40 |
| Syed__ | Ohh i see. I didnt knew that. | 15:40 |
| sulo | was waiting for endpoint change to go though | 15:40 |
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| Syed__ | Cool sulo | 15:40 |
| Syed__ | Thank you | 15:40 |
| jimbaker | anyway, usual transition | 15:40 |
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| jimbaker | the other consideration we will have is how to bring in the python client into the functional testing | 15:41 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: I don't think the client should be part of functional testing | 15:41 |
| sigmavirus | the client and server should have their own individual functional tests | 15:41 |
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| sulo | jimbaker: you mean from teh client side ? | 15:41 |
| sigmavirus | the client shouldn't be used in the server's functional tests | 15:41 |
| sigmavirus | if the server changes something that breaks the client then that change becomes dependent on the fix in the client, which is dependent on the change on the server and you have a loop that will never merge | 15:42 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, yeah, sure, we might call this integration testing. but similar leverage of the functional test framework | 15:42 |
| sigmavirus | it's a terrible diea | 15:42 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, oh i agree it's horribly complicated | 15:42 |
| jimbaker | but having something that does this test is still going to be important | 15:43 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: right, what you want is for the client to have functional tests that run the server | 15:43 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, i don't know where these tests are currently done in openstack projects. but hopefully the combination of standard client + service is tested on a regular basis, challenges and all | 15:44 |
| sigmavirus | I agree, and we'll set that up | 15:44 |
| sulo | i am totes confused ... are we talking about putting client in server functional test or doing functional test for client ? | 15:44 |
| sigmavirus | sulo: I understood the former, but I"m advocating solely for the latter | 15:44 |
| jimbaker | sulo, i'm just saying, do test | 15:44 |
| sulo | ok | 15:44 |
| jimbaker | the specifics i'm completely open to. it sounds like the client testing will drive, which is absolutely fine for me | 15:45 |
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| jimbaker | which means the functional testing of the server code itself will purely look at its rest api, as is being done now | 15:46 |
| jimbaker | and speculating: the client will probably reuse the server functional test harness to do its own testing | 15:46 |
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| jimbaker | if the server breaks its contract, the client tests will all start failing on a recheck. but at least we can fix the server, and get out of the pernicious loop that sigmavirus mentioned | 15:48 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: potentially | 15:48 |
| sigmavirus | (reuse the harness) | 15:48 |
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| jimbaker | sigmavirus, yeah, just throwing something out there | 15:48 |
| jimbaker | anything else we should discuss in this meeting? | 15:50 |
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| jimbaker | i guess that's a *no* | 15:52 |
| Syed__ | i am done | 15:52 |
| Syed__ | nothing from my side | 15:52 |
| Syed__ | thanks jim | 15:52 |
| tojuvone | Nothing that special | 15:52 |
| jimbaker | let's move additional discussion to #craton | 15:52 |
| Syed__ | +1 | 15:53 |
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| sigmavirus | #endmeeting | 15:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 5 15:53:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-12-05-15.00.html | 15:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-12-05-15.00.txt | 15:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-12-05-15.00.log.html | 15:53 |
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| Sukhdev | Folks, time for Ironic-neutron meeting | 16:00 |
| jroll | \o | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 5 16:01:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron' | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts: are you here? | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Agenda (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:01 | |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_December_5.2C_2016 | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | The agenda is pretty much same from last week | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll : anything to announce? | 16:02 |
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| jroll | nope! | 16:02 |
| sambetts | o/ | 16:02 |
| sambetts | Nothing new from me | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Security Groups | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | I rebased the documentation patch - but, missed picking up updated names for variables | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | will push another update later today | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | that should take care of the comments on the patch | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts : do we want to add anything else in the documentaiton patch? | 16:05 |
| * sambetts still needs to re-review sorry | 16:05 | |
| Sukhdev | NP | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else on this? | 16:06 |
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| * jroll does not | 16:07 | |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Port Groups | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | It seems pretty much in the same state - | 16:08 |
| joanna | o/ | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1618754 | 16:08 |
| jroll | yeah, getting close | 16:09 |
| vsaienk0 | we can land ironiclient patches, if they are reviewed | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev | +1 | 16:09 |
| jroll | awesome | 16:09 |
| vsaienk0 | Please check if we are ok with the following testing approach - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381743 | 16:10 |
| vsaienk0 | create nodes with portgroups and without portgroups in same environment and use nova flavors for scheduling | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | vsaienk0 : nova flavors may or may not have anything to do with port groups - just an FYI | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | but, I think your approach is correct | 16:13 |
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| vsaienk0 | Sukhdev it just for tests, to use multitenant environment for portgroup and non-portgroup tests | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | vsaienk0 : Understood | 16:14 |
| jroll | ya, it's probably fine, need to look in more detail though | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else on this? | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Interface attach APIs | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts pushed updates on Friday | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:+bug/1582188 | 16:17 |
| sambetts | yeah, these patches when super weird during that push | 16:17 |
| vsaienk0 | the patches needs to be rebased, thay are in merge conflict, and the last version wasn't worked I got 500 from API | 16:17 |
| sambetts | I had some terrible merge conflcits and all the files got messed up | 16:18 |
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| sambetts | I have fixed it and I'm just resolving all the comments | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | cool - thanks sambetts | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | will look for the updates | 16:19 |
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| Sukhdev | anything else on this? | 16:19 |
| sambetts | Nothing right now from me | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: VLAN aware servers | 16:20 |
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| Sukhdev | I added few more comments on the spec | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | And noticed more comments this morning as well | 16:21 |
| sambetts | there were a bunch of comments on the RFE over the weekend, I'm going to try to resolve them tomorrow | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | but, I think most of the juice is in place | 16:21 |
| vsaienk0 | I've left a comments in the spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277853/10/specs/approved/VLAN-aware-baremetal-instances.rst@35 | 16:21 |
| vsaienk0 | I doubt that we need to change anything on ironic side to made it working | 16:22 |
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| vsaienk0 | neutron allows to group ports to trunks https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/vlan-aware-vms and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361776/15/doc/networking-guide/source/config-trunking.rst | 16:23 |
| sambetts | my spec takes all of this into account already | 16:23 |
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| vsaienk0 | Do we need to made any automatic decisions on Ironic side (ie create a trunk on the fly) when user requested instance with more ports that hardware server has, because user image may not support trunking at all | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | vsaienk0 : I just saw your comment - I think it is covered | 16:24 |
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| Sukhdev | vsaienk0 : what do you mean when you say user may not support trunking at all - | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | do you mean the TOR? | 16:26 |
| vsaienk0 | no I mean the image that user trying to deploy | 16:26 |
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| jroll | the OS | 16:26 |
| vsaienk0 | also I think that number of nic should be somehow mentioned in the flavor, so user always know hardware capabilities | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | Think of a use case when one runs a service on the BM sever - | 16:27 |
| vsaienk0 | and if needed user may create a trunk in neutron manually and pass it to nova boot | 16:28 |
| vsaienk0 | just wandered why we need to made this decision automatically on Ironic side is it right place? | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | vsaienk0 : I think this info is needed by (at least) the ML2 drivers when vnic_type == baremetal | 16:30 |
| sambetts | so the reason for doing this may now have been solved by the attach/detach spec, but originally it was so that a user requesting 4 nics in nova could be given any baremetal server regardless of number physical ports | 16:30 |
| vsaienk0 | Sukhed ML2 is neutron thing it should pick trunk info from port metadata | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | never mind my comment - as soon as I hit send, I realized that :-) | 16:31 |
| vsaienk0 | there is an example how trunk port looks like http://paste.openstack.org/show/591426/ | 16:31 |
| joanna | @sambetts - could you send me the link to this spec? | 16:31 |
| vsaienk0 | it has trunk_details | 16:31 |
| vdrok | joanna: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277853 | 16:31 |
| joanna | thanks! | 16:32 |
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| vsaienk0 | sambetts: trying to pick any server is not right, we shouldn't convert user request and create trunks on the fly, we don't know if user image will work with it | 16:33 |
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| vsaienk0 | user should know how many nics are available via flavor info, and based on that made decision to create trunks or not by his own | 16:34 |
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| Sukhdev | vsaienk0 : If my memory serves me right, there are two use cases | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | 1) when the admin creates trunked port - this is what you are talking about | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | 2) when it is implicitly created on behalf of user | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | We can debate if 2) is needed or not | 16:36 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: users, not just admins, can create a neutron trunk | 16:36 |
| sambetts | basically the argument is whether --nic net-id should result in an implict creation | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : right - that is what I said in 1) | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | in 2) it is implicitly created | 16:37 |
| sambetts | yeah | 16:37 |
| vsaienk0 | Sukhdev: user may create a trunk port and use --nic port-id=<trunk-port-id> | 16:38 |
| sambetts | vsaienk0: that isn't broken by my spec | 16:38 |
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| vsaienk0 | sambetts: I see, but what if user image doesn't support trunks | 16:39 |
| vsaienk0 | are we going to handle that case somehow? | 16:39 |
| sambetts | right now we don't have any way for images to state what they support | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | vsaienk0 : I think that is where flavor-id comes into play | 16:39 |
| sambetts | for anything, bonding, trunks, cloud-init even | 16:40 |
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| Sukhdev | vsaienk0 : So, when admin creates nova flavors for BM selection, I think that is where all these come into play | 16:41 |
| vsaienk0 | so creating trunk on the fly will break cases when user image doensn't support trunks | 16:41 |
| sambetts | right now Ironic basically assumes the images support them all, and more or less assumes the images are provided not self created by users | 16:41 |
| sambetts | jroll: ^ | 16:41 |
| jroll | yeah, it's hard/impossible to detect this | 16:42 |
| vsaienk0 | sambetts: I can't say that user image supports vlan if we don't know it for sure | 16:42 |
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| vsaienk0 | in my understanding if user do --nic net-id multiple times, it means that user want hardware server with number of hardware nics that were specified in request | 16:43 |
| vsaienk0 | if user want trunk, he create a trunk and use --nic port-id <trunk> | 16:43 |
| vsaienk0 | if want mixed env that --nic net-id ... --nic port-id <trunk> | 16:44 |
| jroll | the problem is that in a cloudy world, you just connect networks | 16:44 |
| sambetts | IMO if you request --nic net-id multiple times it means I want a NIC connected to this network | 16:44 |
| jroll | you shouldn't need to know the physical ccharacteristics of the cloud | 16:44 |
| sambetts | sub-interfaces are NICs IMO | 16:44 |
| vsaienk0 | sambetts: but if user image doesn't support vlans, converting --nic ... --nic and creating trunk will lead to active instance without network access | 16:45 |
| jroll | the ultimate goal here is to make baremetal act cloudy, like a VM, imo | 16:45 |
| sambetts | vsaienk0: or no instance at all | 16:45 |
| vsaienk0 | sambetts: we can't check if instance is accessible | 16:45 |
| sambetts | I mean, it won't even get scehduled | 16:46 |
| sambetts | which isn't want we want | 16:46 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts : that is the way I thought it works - but, vsaienk0 does bring up an interesting angle | 16:47 |
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| Sukhdev | vsaienk0 : in general, if there is no way to know what does instance image support - this is a bigger problem, no? | 16:47 |
| sambetts | +1 | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | I mean regardless of trunked i/f, it is an issue, no? | 16:48 |
| vdrok | is it going to be at least possible to say "I want this exact configuration, do not assume anything"? | 16:49 |
| vsaienk0 | might be use vlan_support flag in image metadata with default = True | 16:49 |
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| Sukhdev | vdrok : I thought that will play into the flavor creation process - so that a specific BM is selected or not selected | 16:50 |
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| * Sukhdev time check 9 min | 16:51 | |
| Sukhdev | to summarize - there are really two orthogonal issues here | 16:51 |
| vdrok | Sukhdev: well, with the planned switch to resource providers, the single resource class field might be encoding too much info in it, if we include enabling/disabling features there too | 16:51 |
| vsaienk0 | I don't have anything to add, I think we can discuss it in the spec :) | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | 1) do we support implicit creation of trunk port or not | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | 2) Do we tie-in the image capabilities into the flavor creation - so that appropriate BMS are selected or not | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | anybody sees anything else? | 16:54 |
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| sambetts | also do we include nic number in the flavor/resources to aid scehduling | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : perhaps you can mention these in the spec | 16:55 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts : right - perhaps a paragraph on the flavor creation guidelines :-) | 16:56 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: right now flavors don't include anything regarding networking, so its a larger issue | 16:57 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts : we can keep networking out - but, use parameters such as image capabilities, Hw capabilities, etc - that should cover everything we discussed here | 16:58 |
| sambetts | I'll try to expand on these issues when I update the spec | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : thanks | 16:59 |
| vsaienk0 | sambetts: thanks | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | anything else - we are down to 1 min | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : BTW, if you need any help with this, feel free to ping me | 16:59 |
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| sambetts | sure thanks :D and thanks for all the reviews :D | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | OK - folks, we are out of time | 17:00 |
| vdrok | moving to meeting-3 | 17:00 |
| vdrok | :) | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | thanks for attending - was a great discussion | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | byt | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 17:00 |
| vdrok | thanks! | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| tonyb | #startmeeting stable | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 5 21:02:46 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'stable' | 21:02 |
| tonyb | #topic rollcall | 21:02 |
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| tonyb | ... Thjis time in the correct channel | 21:03 |
| tonyb | I seem to have problems with that lately | 21:03 |
| Rockyg | I'm here, too | 21:03 |
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| tonyb | Rockyg: :) | 21:03 |
| tonyb | Rockyg: multitasking like a boss! | 21:03 |
| Rockyg | Hey, it's in my job description... | 21:04 |
| tonyb | Rockyg: My plan was to drop into the product WG meetign at the end and chat to Carol but she replied overnight | 21:04 |
| Rockyg | ok. what's the status on liberty eol? | 21:05 |
| tonyb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StableTeam#Agenda | 21:05 |
| Rockyg | oops. jumping the gun | 21:05 |
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| tonyb | Rockyg: Nah I was just going to say if there is anything there we can skip to it ... | 21:05 |
| tonyb | Rockyg: So last cycle (kilo) I wrote a bunch of tools to help with EOLing $branch | 21:06 |
| tonyb | Rockyg: for $good_reasons fungi suggested I do them different so I'm writeing and testing the different approach this time | 21:06 |
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| Rockyg | oh, good stuff. | 21:06 |
| tonyb | Rockyg: so I'm going to do nova today, perhaps cinder if that works then I'll roll out the rest during this week | 21:07 |
| Rockyg | ah. excellent | 21:07 |
| tonyb | Rockyg: I do have a few teams to reach out to to get an explicit ACK befoer I EOL them | 21:07 |
| fungi | oh, right, api vs git push | 21:07 |
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| tonyb | Rockyg: that's one of the problem with openstack-dev is it's lossy. You can't assume silence is agreement :( | 21:08 |
| tonyb | fungi: Yeah :) | 21:08 |
| tonyb | fungi: Shoudl I be able to create and delet branches in the snadbox repo? | 21:08 |
| tonyb | fungi: from a gerrit POV is being a release manager enough to do this or do I need to hand over to an admin? | 21:09 |
| Rockyg | really lossy to my company mail server | 21:09 |
| tonyb | fungi: will regret de-lurking ;P | 21:09 |
| tonyb | Rockyg: :) | 21:09 |
| fungi | tonyb: we can set you up with access if it's not working for you | 21:09 |
| fungi | just let me know | 21:10 |
| fungi | once you get a chance to try it out | 21:10 |
| tonyb | fungi: Thanks. I'll test it after the meeting and if it's not working can I call on you to do that thing | 21:10 |
| tonyb | fungi: :) | 21:10 |
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| fungi | you bet | 21:10 |
| tonyb | \o/ #winning | 21:10 |
| tonyb | Rockyg: did you have anything else on liberty or shouls I let you get back to the product_WG? | 21:13 |
| Rockyg | Nope. go ahead and end this and join me in pwg | 21:14 |
| tonyb | :) | 21:14 |
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| tonyb | Thanks everyone | 21:14 |
| tonyb | #endmeeting | 21:14 |
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