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acabot#startmeeting watcher14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar  9 14:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'watcher'14:00
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acabothi14:00
sballe_o/14:00
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acabotagenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#03.2F09.2F201614:01
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acabotplease do not hesitate to add items in the agenda before the meeting14:01
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acabotalexchadin : I did not mention your spec as you are offline last week but if you need to discuss it, please add it to the agenda14:02
alexchadinI already added it14:02
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alexchadinabout 10 minutes ago14:03
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acabot:-)14:03
acabotI didn't see it, thx14:03
alexchadin:)14:03
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dtardivelhi14:04
tkaczynskihi14:04
acabotmy team will join the meeting in 2 minutes (we were in another meeting just before)14:04
hvprashhi14:04
acabot#topic Announcements14:04
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jed56hi14:04
edleafeo/14:04
acabot#info mitaka-3 version has been released last week14:05
acabotthere is only one new package (watcher)14:05
seanmurphyhi guys14:05
acabotavailable as version 0.24 on pypi and launchpad14:06
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vincentfrancoiseo/14:06
dtardiveland docker hub ;)14:06
acabotall the documentation and docker images have been updated14:06
seanmurphynew relative to what?14:06
acabotthx to dtardivel14:06
seanmurphymitaka-2?14:06
acabotseanmurphy: yes I mean we didn't release new packages for watcher-dashboard and python-watcherclient for mitaka-314:07
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acabotso only the watcher package has been updated14:07
seanmurphyah, ok - good stuff - got it14:07
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vmahehi14:08
acabot#info our talk has been accepted for the summit #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/710814:08
acabotthis is a great news14:08
jed56congratulation to everybody :)14:09
dtardivel+114:09
tkaczynski:)14:09
edleafe\o/14:09
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acabotsballe_: we should probably set up a conf call next week to discuss the content and share it with you guys as soon as possible14:09
sballe_acabot: yes thta was my plans as well as work on a first draft today14:10
sballe_Also I would like to figure out if we should do a brown bag talk14:10
acabot#action sballe_ start working on a first draft of slides for the summit14:10
sballe_with the other submission that wasn't accepted14:10
sballe_it is just a 10 mins talk but it would allow for more PR around watcher14:11
seanmurphywell done guys!14:11
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sballe_I suggest that we have authors that are not on the accepted talk do the bown bag14:11
acabotsballe_: I think we can register for a brown bag talk to give a quick overview of Watcher but not to run the hands-on lab14:12
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sballe_yes I agree. the hands on lab or the demo migth be too muhc14:12
sballe_much14:12
acabot#info unfortunately our hands-on lab has not been selected14:12
sballe_:-(14:12
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acabotbut maybe we can schedule a quick demo of 10 minutes max at the end of our talk14:13
sballe_Intel didn't select it either for our both due to being too early in the cycle14:13
acabotok14:13
sballe_Once we are under the big test all this will be a slam dunk14:13
jed56you can maybe display a short video (demo)14:13
sballe_jed56: I agree we could do a quick overview and the a short vide14:14
sballe_video14:14
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acabot#action acabot set up a conf call to discuss the content of the talk14:14
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sballe_jed56: will you take on to submit to the brown bag?14:14
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acabot#action acabot register for a brown bag session with Watcher demo14:15
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acabot#info PTL election should start on friday https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_March_201614:15
acabotas we are not in the big tent, we cant use the official repo of the foundation14:16
acabotI suggest we use the ML for nominations14:16
acabotby March 17th14:16
jed56sballe: I will not be at the Openstack Summit14:16
acabotif there are multiple candidates, we will find a tool for voting14:17
acabot#action acabot ask for PTL nominations on the ML14:18
acabot#info WSME is not maintained and we use it in Watcher http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088658.html14:19
acabotaccording to this thread there is not really an alternative to WSME14:19
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vincentfrancoisethe guys from Sahara are apparently using flask14:19
vincentfrancoisesee #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088802.html14:20
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sballe_acabot: I nominate and vote for you14:20
acabotanyone here has experienced flask ?14:21
acabotsballe_ : thx ;-)14:21
sballe_we used it in LBaaS and Akanda is using it too.14:21
hvprashi have worked on flask earlier14:21
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acabothvprash : great, any idea about the effort to move from WSME to flask ?14:22
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sballe_Pecan is the alternative rigth14:22
acabotwe are using Pecan & WSME in Watcher14:22
alexchadinHaving some project with flask, good experience about it14:22
hvprashacobot, though i am still a newbie in watcher can go through the wsme code and take a stab14:23
acabotok can we open a wishlist bug on this or a BP is needed ?14:23
jed56+114:23
sballe_+114:23
vincentfrancoiseIMHO, we just need to do one to set in stone the API validation bit14:24
acabot#action alexchadin hvprash have a look at the impact of moving from WSME to Flask14:24
seanmurphywe’ve used it in some project before - it’s lightweight, well designed and easy to use14:24
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jed56we can maybe wait that an another  openstack project to do it : )14:24
jed56acabot do you know if there is a deadline ?14:25
vincentfrancoiseAlso, people may suggest some other alternatives. SO I would wait another week or so before spending some time on flask14:25
acabotjed56: no deadline yet as WSME is still usable14:25
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dtardiveljed56: I don't think wsme is declared as deprecated for now14:25
jed56so, IMHO we can wait :)14:25
dtardivel+114:26
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acabotok lets check this ML thread next week for alternatives14:26
jed56#action acabot check ML for WSME14:26
acabot#info Watcher stated as a ported to Python 3 project on RDO blog #link http://blogs.rdoproject.org/7894/status-of-python-3-in-openstack-mitaka14:27
jed56thanks vincentfrancoise for the initial effort :)14:27
acabot#info new milestones discussed last week were added to launchpad14:27
acabotnext milestone is RC-1 targeted for March 18th14:28
acabotany other annoucement ?14:28
acabotannouncement14:28
acabot#topic Review Action Items14:29
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acabotworkload balance migration strategy spec has been reviewed multiple times #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276586/14:29
acabotIMHO, I dont think its perfect right now but we need to start implementing14:30
acabotsballe_: any news regarding Junjie contributions ?14:31
sballe_yes14:31
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sballe_Junjie will work on Workload stratgey and edwin on threadshold. We got that straightn out last week14:31
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sballe_edwin is in a all week hackathon so he can't attend. He presented Wtahcer and people got excite14:32
sballe_excited14:32
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acabotok so Junjie will work on implementing the workload strategy ?14:33
sballe_yes14:33
acabotok so we need to update the spec as Edwin was stated as the main contributor14:33
sballe_there was some confusion but we got it back on the rigth track14:33
sballe_Junjie: spec+code for stratgegy. Edwin spec+code on optimization threashold14:34
acabot#action junjie update the assignee for the workload balance spec as junjie14:34
acabotsballe_: seems a lot easier to me :-)14:34
sballe_yeah me 214:35
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acabot#action gzhai2 start implementing optimisation threshold14:36
acabotalexstav: Add Overload standard deviation strategy spec is open for reviews right ?14:36
alexchadinYeap:)14:37
seanmurphyi can review if it helps14:37
acabot#action sballe_ jwcroppe acabot seanmurphy review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286153/14:37
alexchadinI've made implementation already14:37
alexchadinIt works!14:38
acabotalexchadin : thats great, wait for the reviews on your spec before pushing the code on Watcher repo14:38
alexchadinYeah-yeah, of course14:38
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acabotbut thats great to hear that you have been able to deliver a new strategy for Watcher !14:38
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alexchadinI've made science article based on that algorithm14:39
acabotProvide efficacy indicators needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283449/14:39
acabotalexchadin : if the article is public, please add a link in your spec14:40
acabotwho wants to review the efficacy indicators specs ?14:40
acabot:-)...so I will !14:41
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alexchadinacabot: Okay, i'll add it lately14:41
alexchadinlater*14:41
acabot#action acabot review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283449/14:41
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acabotWIP: Cluster model objects wrapper needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287019/14:42
acabottpeoples is sick today but he is waiting for feedback on this work14:42
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jed56acabot i will review this spec next week14:43
acabotedleafe: it seems you uploaded the last PS right ?14:43
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edleafeacabot: yeah, that was to fix it14:43
acabot#action jed56 review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287019/14:43
edleafeI seem to somehow have deleted the spec from PS 214:43
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dtardivelacabot: I will review Taylor's spec also14:44
acabot#action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287019/14:44
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acabotedleafe: ok14:44
acabotAdd specification for Watcher Scoring Module needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289880/14:45
sballe_I will review14:45
acabottomasz: can we start reviewing it ?14:45
jed56me too next week14:45
tkaczynskidefinitely!14:45
acabot#action sballe_ acabot jed56 review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289880/14:46
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tkaczynskiI'd appreciate your feedback and I will start working on implementation anyway14:46
acabotProvide a way to filter available hosts that can be targeted for a migration needs a spec, this one is on my side14:46
acabotsorry for the delay14:46
acabot#action acabot submit a spec for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/select-destinations-filter14:46
acabotas you can see there are a lot of specs in review, so please everyone take some time to review them14:47
acabotit will avoid losing time when the code will be reviewed14:47
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acaboton Watcher vincentfrancoise is still working on db purge engine #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/db-purge-engine14:48
acabotvincentfrancoise: do you think we can set this BP as implemented by EOW ?14:49
vincentfrancoisethey are currently waiting for reviews14:49
vincentfrancoiseso I'm waiting for feedbacks14:49
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acabotand you already had feedback from tpeoples and dtardivel14:50
acabotanyone wants to review this code ?14:50
vincentfrancoiseyeah I'm mainly waiting for a review from tpeoples to see if my changes are OK to him14:51
dtardivelacabot: I'm testing again db purge latest patch on devstack14:51
acabotok as gzhai is away all the week, we can probably merge it as soon as tpeoples is back14:51
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acabot#action dtardivel tpeoples review code on db purge engine https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/db-purge-engine14:52
acabotIntegrated consolidation strategy with watcher needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289259/14:53
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acabotbrunograz vtech : thx a lot for your contribution14:53
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jed56+1 next week :)14:53
acabotbrunograz vtech  : can we start reviewing your code ?14:54
brunograzacabot: yes14:54
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acabotok thx14:54
brunograzthe code is failing on jenkins becuase the code for the bug is not merged yet14:54
acabot#action jed56 review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289259/14:54
sballe_I'll review that one too14:55
acabot#action sballe_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289259/14:55
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sballe_thx14:55
brunograzthanks ;-)14:55
acabot#topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion14:55
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jed56brunogrz you can link your patchset14:55
acabot5 minutes left on bugs14:55
brunograz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288465/14:56
acabot#info 37 bugs have been fixed in mitaka-3 release14:56
sballe_acabot  have a quick update in the open topic.14:56
acabot#topic Open discussions14:57
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sballe_:)14:57
jed56I want to says that you can link to patchset 288465 with 28925914:57
vincentfrancoisebrunograz: as jed56 said, can you rebase your strategy PS on top of the bug so that both pass the tests? (I can help you out on #openstack-watcher if you want)14:57
sballe_The nova live migraion people are interested in understand how they can work with us14:57
sballe_they are from Intel and I am meeting to dicuss initial stuff tomorrow14:57
brunograzvincentfrancoise: yes, we can do it - we talk abt this offline14:58
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sballe_so this is just as an FYI14:58
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dtardivelacabot: just a remark about bugs. Take care about waiting for "triaged" step before working on a bug. Or if it's critical, please contact Core team to have a quick statement ...14:58
acabotsballe_ : looks great, is edleafe in the discussion ?14:58
vincentfrancoisebrunograz: ok14:58
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edleafeacabot: not yet :)14:58
acabot#info about bugs. Take care about waiting for "triaged" step before working on a bug. Or if it's critical, please contact Core team to have a quick statement ...14:58
sballe_acabot: not yet since this is intel internal only for now. Will bring edleafe in for our next meeting14:58
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sballe_edleafe: heads up :)14:59
acabotok thx14:59
dtardivelbye14:59
sballe_already ? bye14:59
edleafesballe_: ready! :)14:59
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jed56I think we need to fix our tempest gate  (devstack)14:59
acabotwe can have a f2f meeting in Auustin on this topic14:59
sballe_edleafe: :)14:59
brunograzbye14:59
sballe_+114:59
vincentfrancoisebye14:59
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sballe_bye15:00
hvprashbye15:00
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sdake#startmeeting kolla16:30
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar  9 16:30:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:30
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:30
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sdake#topic rollcall16:30
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akwasniehi16:30
sdake\o/16:30
dave-mccowan\o/16:30
nihiliferhi16:30
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vhosakoto/16:30
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Jeffrey4l\o/16:30
Jeffrey4l#startmeeting?16:31
openstackJeffrey4l: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.16:31
sdakeJeffrey4l I already did16:31
jpeelerhi16:31
Jeffrey4l( i have a very bad network now. sorry)16:31
Jeffrey4lsaw that.16:32
SamYapleo/16:32
sdake#topic announcements16:32
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inc0o/ sorry I'm late16:32
sdake1. akwasnie was unanimously voted into the core review team16:32
elemoine_(/16:32
sdakeyay :)16:32
elemoine_o/16:32
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nihilifercongrats!16:32
elemoine_congrats akwasnie16:33
inc0congrats:)16:33
akwasniethank you all!16:33
sdake2. the backport upgrades plan was approved by a majority of the core reviewers16:33
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sdake3. I added our plan and a warning not to use liberty to the documentation16:33
sdake#link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla/liberty-deployment-warning.html16:34
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sdake4. akwasnie and inc0 and elemoine_ hae a talk accepted on diagnostics16:34
sdakeplease attend if you can make it ;)16:34
coolsvaphello16:34
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sdakesdake and inc0 got jammed into what may be an upgrade panel16:34
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elemoine_nice16:35
sdakeit is unclear what will be happening with this talk as there are 9 people reigstered for it16:35
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inc0and topic is....not what we intended to talk about16:35
sdakeok thats about it from me16:35
sdakeanything from the community?16:35
sdakeyes topic is blue/green upgrades16:35
sdakefor those that don't know, that is having two datacenters and switching them via routing after an upgrade16:36
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sdakeas coreos does with distro upgrades16:36
sdakewe are going to either get that changed or I wont be at that talk :)16:36
sdake#topic Dependencies inside one host in kolla-mesos16:36
sdakethis rolled over from lsat week16:36
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sdakeI'm not sure who added it to agenda, but whoever did, you ahve the floor16:36
sdakewas it you nihilifer ?16:37
nihiliferno, it wasn't me16:37
nihiliferkproskurin: ?16:37
sdakeSamYaple ?16:37
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sdakewell I dont know what the purpose of this one is, so I'll move on if nobody steps up to lead the discussion :)16:37
rhalliseyhello16:37
rhalliseysry I'm late16:37
sdakehey rhallisey16:37
nihiliferok, i think we may go on to the other topic16:38
sdake#link Kolla Austin Summit discussion [timebox 5 minutes]16:38
nihiliferthis is already implemented and has +2 ;)16:38
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sdake#topic Kolla Austin Summit discussion [timebox 5 minutes]16:38
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sdakewe have 24 proposed sessions16:38
sdakeif you add sessions, please add them at the end, not in the middle16:38
elemoine_link?16:38
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sdake1 of them had no votes, 2 sets of 2 sessions were merged16:39
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sdake#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-newton-summit16:39
elemoine_thanks16:39
inc0let's vote for them...then sum up votes and calculate average, whoever gets 9.2 wins16:39
sdakeThe most slots we can hvae are 1616:39
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sdake9.2 mlilion!16:39
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sdakeI asked for a minimum of 4 fishbowl and 10 design sessions16:40
sdakeand a full day contributor meetup on friday16:40
sdakeI asked for a maximum of 6 fishbowl and 17 dessign sessions with a half day contribtor meetup on friday16:41
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sdakewe will priortize the talks going forward and I'll put the agenda together - anything that doens't make tue-thur will flow into friday16:41
sdakewe don't have 16 confirmed spots yet16:41
sdakeso we may get less then our minimum ask16:41
sdakeany questions?16:42
elemoine_what are the goals of the design discusions?16:42
elemoine_I mean16:42
sdakedesigning16:42
elemoine_is this just discussions?16:42
sdakeelemoine_ have youbeen to a summit before?16:42
elemoine_no :)16:42
elemoine_hence my question16:42
sdakeok well its nothing to be worried about16:43
sdakeits design discussions about how the implementation should work16:43
pbourkeare we voting? what are [F] / [D]16:43
sdakewe take copious notes16:43
sdakelook at the midcycle notes16:43
rhalliseypbourke, fishbowl & design16:43
sdakepbourke those are vote counts F=fishbowl d=design16:43
inc0pbourke, fishbowl and design16:43
akwasniepbourke: fishbowl, design16:43
ajafopbourke: on top is explanation [d][f]16:43
sdakeplease don't vote twice ;)16:43
pbourkethanks16:43
inc0elemoine_, sitting around the table and figuring out how to fix stuff together:)16:43
elemoine_ok16:44
sdakestuff wlth low votes will flow over, i don't think we will miss any agenda topics unless there were zero votes16:44
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elemoine_I guess it can be related to future work we'd like to propose16:44
sdakeelemoine_ if you hae sessions you wnt o propose add them after 2416:44
sdakeif someone messes with the numbering my brain will explode :)16:44
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sdake#topic Mitaka rc1 blueprint review [timebox 15 minutes]16:45
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elemoine_diagnostics is what I'm interested in the most, and it's there already16:45
sdakeoh one more announcemnet16:45
sdakewe released mitaka-3 on the 5th16:45
sdakegrats everyone!16:45
sdakenice work16:46
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sdake#link https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/mitaka-rc116:46
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sdakenow its time to get to work on rc116:46
sdakeI sent an email to the mailin list this mornin explaining how the rc schedules and priorties work16:46
sdakelets go through the blueprints now16:46
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sdakesince those need to be done before the 16th IIRC16:47
inc0mariadb upgrade needs love16:47
sdake#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/mariadb-lights-out owned by SamYaple16:47
inc0who have spare love to give to it?16:47
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sdakeinc0 lets go in order ok :)16:47
inc0ok16:47
sdakeso this one isn't started16:47
inc0sorry16:47
sdakeno reason to apologize16:48
sdakeSamYaple has 5 blueprints for rc116:48
sdakeplus he is taking ressponsiblity for backporting liberty (thanks sam!)16:48
sdakeanyone want to take this oen off his hands?16:48
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coolsvapi can try but I am not completely sure about it16:49
SamYapleive got mariadb, even if its slow going16:49
SamYapleitll be done16:49
dave-mccowani've got cycles (and WIP) for Fernet16:49
sdakeSamYaple sounds good16:49
SamYaplefernet isnt going to happen16:49
sdake#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/upgrade-rabbitmq16:49
SamYapleoh i see dave-mccowan16:49
SamYaplei dont think ferenet is going to happen dave-mccowan16:49
SamYapleit requires stuff we just dont have yet, scripts playbooks16:50
SamYapleits not just configs16:50
SamYaplebut i wont stop you for doing it16:50
SamYaplei thin kthere are more important thigns to do though16:50
sdakeSamYaple dave already hs an implementation :)16:50
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sdakeSamYaple would you mind giving that to dave then?16:50
dave-mccowaneverything but the rotation, which is the only hard part.16:50
SamYapleid love to see it, and how he is rotating the tokens16:50
SamYapleyes that was my point16:50
sdakedave-mccowan can you take that one then in launchpad please16:51
SamYapleim not sure we can squeeze that in16:51
sdakewell we wont merge it until its all complete in one big patch series, agreed?16:51
dave-mccowanit won't be worthy to become default for sure16:51
SamYapleexternal-deps are not likely to be eradicated this cycle16:51
sdakeshould I bounce externl deps to n1?16:51
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SamYapleyou can untarget it, im not sure when it would happen16:52
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SamYaplewe need infra to do things so who knows16:52
sdakei'll put it in n1 then and we can decide about newton priorities at summit16:52
SamYaplethey are working on them16:52
sdakesounds good16:52
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SamYaplejust back to fernet for a minute dave-mccowan16:52
sdakeinc0 did I hear you need hlep with rabbitmq?16:52
inc0sdake, no, I'll finish it up16:53
SamYaplethe issue is we have no way to reinject new rotated tokens to running containers16:53
sdakeinc0 sounds good16:53
inc0implementation is in review, only thing was backport voting16:53
SamYapleand im not sure thats somethign we want to shove in, default or not16:53
inc0which passed, so I'll just write this damned script in container:P16:53
sdakeinc0 :)16:53
SamYapleinc0: feel free to change it for the better first thing newton16:53
sdakeinc0 thanks for that :)16:53
SamYaplei agree its not amazing16:54
inc0oh I will change it16:54
inc0:P16:54
SamYaplewe need to change it in alot of places16:54
inc0yeah16:54
inc0I have other ideas as well, but that's for different discussio16:55
inc0n16:55
SamYaplesounds good16:55
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sdakepbourke around?16:55
pbourkesdake: yup16:56
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sdakeoracle linux gates on track?16:56
inc0coolsvap, so, you're taking on mariadb? or anyone else wants to give it a shot?16:56
akwasniemariadb upgrade?16:56
sdakeinc0 SamYaple said he woudl do it although it would be slow going16:56
sdakemariadb upgrade and mariadb lights out16:56
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sdakeboth need to be tackled16:56
sdakewe can probably split that up16:56
pbourkesdake: they are. source are passing, binary deploys are failing for unknown reason, binary builds just need a few dependencies fixed16:57
inc0akwasnie, yeah16:57
coolsvapSamYaple: i can provide a helping hand16:57
akwasnieI have to investigate predefined dashboard for kibana but can take also mariadb upgrade if you need any help16:57
inc0SamYaple, coolsvap akwasnie yeah, maybe it would be good to spread the load16:57
SamYaplemariadb upgrade and lights out are the same thing16:57
sdakepbourke cool if you wnat me to help you debug the gate, point me at a gate log16:57
inc0timing is short16:57
SamYaplesame mechanism needed16:57
inc0SamYaple, maybe you could just describe mechanism and let coolsvap and akwasnie deal with it?16:58
pbourkesdake: great thanks - nothing obvious as to why the binary deploy is failing to spin up an instance but I'm keeping an eye on it16:58
sdakeya we have about 10 days16:58
SamYapleinc0: i dont see how thats helpful since im working on it16:58
SamYaplemariadb isnt sitting, it just needs lots o' testing16:58
sdakeat this point i'm ready to bounce the functional gating to newton16:59
inc0ok, your call man, just holler if you need help16:59
SamYaplewill do16:59
sdakepeople can work on it at their liesure16:59
sdakei work on it occasionally16:59
sdakeone thing I'm working on is getting our security story in shape16:59
sdakeok so onto the bug reports16:59
sdakecritical = feature that didn't land in mitaka-316:59
sdakework on those first if you hae spare cycles17:00
sdakehigh = a big bad bug need fixing17:00
sdakemedium = annoying bug17:00
sdakelow = probably not worth bothering about this early in the rc cycle17:00
sdakewishlist = docs or other features of low interest17:00
sdakedocs are of high interest17:00
sdakejust to clarify17:00
sdakeanything we can do to improve the docs improves our capacity17:01
sdakebecause  we dont hae to spend hours on irc walking people through kolla deploys17:01
vhosakot agreed17:01
sdakeso if you see a repeated quetison try to answer it in the quickstart17:01
sdakewe have 72 bugs17:01
sdakeand 9 blueprints17:01
sdakelets tyr to knock out he lbueprints17:01
sdakeI hae alot of spare capacity17:02
sdakesomeone put me to work ;)17:02
sdakeat this point i'm going to be working on making heat non-doa17:02
sdakeand then making magnum non-doa17:02
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sdakeok I guess we covered two agend topics in one topic :)17:03
sdakeso onto the next one17:03
sdake#link Liberty backport planning17:03
sdake#undo17:03
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sdake#topic Liberty backport planning17:03
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sdakeI set a deadline of april 1st for our rc1 of liberty backports17:03
sdakei'm not sure more then oen person can work on this at a time17:03
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sdakeand that one person at this point is sam17:04
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sdakeso anythign you can do to take stuff off sam's plate is a win for liberty backporting17:04
sdakeour liberty 1.1.0 release is april 15th17:04
sdakethese dates can slip17:04
sdakenobody holds us accountable17:04
sdakebut we need to ship before summit!!17:04
sdakeoh also, we are publishing to pypi now17:04
sdakethanks to a recent gate job change17:04
sdakeSamYaple do you need nay type of help for liberty backporting?17:05
sdakenay/any17:05
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SamYapleyea there are patches in the queue17:05
sdakeyou need them reviewed?17:05
SamYaplereviews would be good17:05
SamYaplethey will not pass gate, but thts fine17:05
sdakefolks please review those patches17:05
sdakeya, the deal wiht the gate17:05
SamYaplewe agreed on one patchstream with final patch passing gate17:06
sdakewe agreed early on17:06
sdakethe last patch in the patch will ben green17:06
sdakeand that is good enough17:06
sdakepatch stream17:06
sdakeya what SamYaple said17:06
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sdakeSamYaple if yu wnat ot give mariadb up it may make for a better opportunity to handle the backporting17:07
sdakehard to do two major projects at one time i na constrained time period17:07
sdakeyay or nay?17:08
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sdakewell SamYaple must be afk or laggy17:09
sdake#topic open discussion17:09
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sdakeany topics folks want to discuss?17:09
vhosakotare the droproot bugs high pri ?17:09
sdakeyes17:09
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vhosakotwill pick one of them then17:10
sdakeupgrades, droproot, and reconfigure17:10
vhosakotI'm done testing rabbit reconfig17:10
sdakeand of course diagnostics17:10
vhosakotwill send review today17:10
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sdakeat thsi point diagnostics framework is done,but i'd like to see a dashboard json-ification of kibana17:10
sdakeso its actually usable ;)17:11
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akwasnieI will look at this sdake17:11
sdakeakwasnie elemoine_ i'd recommend working on that if you dont have other bugs to work on17:11
sdakenice17:11
akwasnie:)17:11
sdakeany other topics?17:12
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elemoine_I'll see what I can do17:12
sdakebefore we close out then17:12
sdakeI'd just like to say17:12
elemoine_but happy to help akwasnie17:12
sdakethe kolla engineering team absolutely rocks17:12
nihiliferyes, regarding droproot stuff - i have haproxy on myself, but SamYaple shared a though with i agree with - so that dropping root when listering on 80 port is impossible17:12
sdakewe have done a kickass job in mitaka-317:12
sdakeand mitaka is going to be fantastic17:12
sdakenihilifer right it is17:13
sdakeunless you give it capabilties17:13
sdakewhich we can do with docker 1.1017:13
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sdakeyou need NET_CAP_SYSADMIN17:13
sdakeor soething like that17:13
nihiliferok, that might be an option17:13
sdakeits the only way it can be done17:14
nihiliferi thght about the other thing17:14
SamYaplejust fyi, haproxy is meant to run as root17:14
nihiliferif horizon/apache will listen on some other port17:14
SamYapleso is apache217:14
SamYapleit drops privs itself17:14
sdakeapache2 definately is17:14
sdakei dont know anything about haproxy17:15
SamYaplehaproxy is as well17:15
sdakeok17:15
SamYapleit has mechanisms to jail itslelf17:15
sdakejails in jails :)17:15
sdakeso what we need is for it to jail?17:15
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sdakeand thats a config feature?17:15
SamYaplejust config options17:15
sdakethere ya go nihilifer17:15
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sdakealthough i'd try drop root with capabiltieis as well as a better option17:16
nihiliferok, will try then17:16
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SamYaplesdake: its a worse option17:16
sdakewhatever fits the deadline17:16
SamYaplealot less secure17:16
sdakeok well lets go for more security17:16
dave-mccowannihilifer check out chroot command at haproxy.org17:16
sdakedave-mccowan can consult here, he has expertise in this area17:17
sdakeI hope people are getting pumped up for austin17:17
sdakeI can't wait to see the town17:17
sdakei hear it rocks :)17:17
vhosakotSamYaple: Jeffrey4l: I have a point to talk about rabbitmq reconfig (that does not have section-based *.ini config file that can be merged using Python's ConfigManager)17:17
sdakeor city rather17:17
vhosakotsdake: sorry to interrupt :)17:18
sdakevhosakot its all good17:18
vhosakotConfigParser*17:18
SamYaplevhosakot: its not just rabbitmq, its all non-ini configs17:18
sdakevhosakot I think SamYaple is busy - perhaps you can sync up late with jeffrey4l17:18
sdakelets conclude the meeting17:19
SamYapleit needs an action-plugin to be done correctly17:19
sdake12 minutes of your life back ;)17:19
sdakethanks everyone for all the hard work up to this point ;)17:19
SamYaplesdake im still talking here17:19
SamYaplewhy are we ending early?17:19
sdakeok17:19
sdakesorry17:19
inc0more action plugins \o/17:19
sdakeit must be lag SamYaple17:19
vhosakotSamYaple: right, so for such services, do we do a straight copy-paste and document that the user must update _entire_ file, not just parts like reonfig for *.ini services ?17:19
SamYapleinc0: exactly17:19
SamYaplevhosakot: it would be the entire file the way i have in mind17:20
SamYapleso the user would need to copy out the emplate _then_ they could augment it17:20
SamYaplethe question is is this a required _required_ thing for mitaka?17:20
vhosakotSamYaple: why even use action_plugin ? why not copy: module ?17:20
sdakereconfig of eveything is realy realy nice ot have17:21
SamYaplevhosakot: because we want copy_if_exists module and that can only be dont if its an action plugin17:21
sdakerequired is a strong word17:21
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vhosakotSamYaple: so, I will submit rebbit reconfig work without action_plugin part (like Jeffrey4l did for horizon) and we cann  add non-ini action_plugin later17:21
SamYaplewell the action_plugin would be like a scaled down merge_configs plugin17:21
sdakebut if vhosakot has nothing else to work on might as well do that17:21
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SamYapleif we are ok with adding it, i would be ok because ive done alot to ensure merge_configs is 2.0 ready. it needs only 2 changes to work with 2.017:22
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vhosakotcool, I will submit without action_plugin for now17:22
SamYapleinc0: thoughts on above?17:22
inc0SamYaple, you know where I stand, I think we should do action_plugins at once17:23
inc0things are broken now17:23
inc0without them17:23
inc0but I'm ok with moving it for newton17:23
SamYaplethings are not broken without them17:23
SamYaplethings are harder without them17:23
inc0ok, broken is wrong word, terribly ugly and hard to maintain17:23
SamYapleand ansible doesnt do well with harder17:23
SamYapleagreed17:23
SamYaple(unless its a script in contianer, thats clean)17:24
vhosakotyes, I see nothing broken without non-ini action_plugin.. just reconfig of non-ini17:24
SamYapleansible + multitask is bad news17:24
vhosakotanyway, I will submit my rabbot reconfig work and get it merged before deadline... we cann add non-ini action_plugin later for all non-ini services17:24
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SamYaplesounds good vhosakot17:25
vhosakotthanks!17:25
vhosakotSamYaple: isn;t action_plugin wrapper about Python's native ConfigParser ?17:25
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vhosakotSamYaple: that copies files17:25
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SamYaplevhosakot: yea but thats not the hard part17:27
vhosakotSamYaple: ah ok17:28
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SamYaplei think we are good here to wrap up17:29
sdakeand also out of time17:29
vhosakotcool, bye everyone!17:29
sdakethanks for coming folks :)17:29
inc0thanks everyone17:29
akwasniethanks17:29
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sdake#endmeeting17:29
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dougwig#startmeeting networking_lib17:30
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dougwigmorning, anyone around?17:30
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kevinbentonAye17:31
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dougwig#topic Open discussion17:32
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dougwigonly one item today.  this needs some eyes:17:32
dougwighttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/267214/17:32
dougwigHenryG's db review17:32
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kevinbentonK17:33
dougwigmost other changes are punted for the mitaka release.17:33
dougwigany other questions/issues?17:33
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kevinbentonNay17:33
dougwigthen let's blast out of here.17:33
kevinbentonK17:34
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dougwig#endmeeting17:34
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jokke_Hi anyone here for the logging WG meeting?19:02
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jokke_#startmeeting log_wg19:04
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar  9 19:04:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:04
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jokke_#info meeting canceled due to lack of participation19:05
jokke_#endmeeting19:05
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jokke_lets try this again on correct slot20:00
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jokke_Hi anyone here for the logging WG meeting?20:00
jokke_#startmeeting log_wg20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar  9 20:00:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
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jokke_#info meeting canceled due to lack of participation (correct time slot)20:05
jokke_#endmeeting20:05
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JRobinson__Good mornign all o/ We''ll being in the User Guide meeting in about 4 minutes21:56
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JRobinson__#startmeeting docuserguides22:03
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar  9 22:03:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is JRobinson__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.22:03
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JRobinson__Good morning -  we have a short User Guide meeting scheduled for now,22:05
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JRobinson__and a later APAC meeting set for 09:00am Australian Eastern Standard Time22:05
JRobinson__The agend items are a shorter today.22:08
JRobinson__^agenda rather22:08
gmolsonok22:08
JRobinson__gmolson, good afternoon22:09
JRobinson__So first item22:09
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gmolsonJRobinson__ good morning!22:09
JRobinson__#topic Command Line Chapter22:09
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JRobinson__gmolson, the patch has had several reviews. It has reached patchset 4 I believe. Is it going okay and do you need a hand?22:10
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JRobinson__unless it merged? I'm looking for the review now22:11
gmolsonJRobinson__, here's the link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285576/22:11
gmolsonKato gave it a +2, but it's waiting on one more...22:11
JRobinson__+1 now from me.22:12
gmolsonok - great22:12
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JRobinson__Sorry for the delay, I've been working on Rackspace docs, have not had a chance to look at OpenStack content.22:12
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gmolsonI hear ya22:13
JRobinson__Hopefully that goes through22:13
gmolsonyeah - I tried to edit the commit message to clarify that it is not new content, and that it is gating stage 2 of the cli reorg to Cloud Admin GUide22:13
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JRobinson__Indeed, there were some questions on the content itself, which is outside the scope at the moment22:14
JRobinson__In the APAC docs meeting yesterday, I mentioned checking on the accuracy of the procedures as a future goal.22:14
gmolsonright - hopefully the explanation helps22:14
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gmolsonok22:14
JRobinson__The goal right now is to reorganize the content.22:14
gmolsongreat - good to clarify22:14
gmolsonFYI - when I did the initial index creation, I was going to include the common files (and not the ones that I did end up including). thought that would be simple, but I kept getting build errors until I changed to the files that are included in the patch.22:15
JRobinson__#info User Guide team goals - Reorganization for the remainder of time til Mitaka publication. Goal for later this year - checking on procedure validity and accuracy.22:15
gmolsonI hadn't figured out yet about locally running checkniceness22:15
JRobinson__gmolson, ah okay. So you have a tox check running on your local repo now?22:16
gmolsonwhen I've been running it now, it seems like it might be flagging a glossary in common, but I haven't taken time to investigate it since now it's phased for stage 2.22:16
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gmolsonyes, I've been running at before git reveiw22:16
gmolson*it before git review22:17
JRobinson__Great, that's the way to go about checking for build errors.22:17
gmolsonyeah. Several frustrating commits that failed before that. ha. :)22:17
gmolsonon another patch22:17
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JRobinson__I can relate a bit. Getting tox working was tricky.22:18
gmolsoninitial learning curve ;)22:19
JRobinson__if you have any questions during the build of stage 2, send me an email - if I don't know the answer I know Brian or Darren can provide an insight into why .rst files in the /common files are not building22:19
JRobinson__yes, such a learning curve ha ha :)22:19
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JRobinson__^in the /common files repo22:19
JRobinson__okay so:22:19
gmolsonk - I have some ibm deadlines that I need to get ready for too, so if someone else wants to take stage 2, that is ok with me22:20
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JRobinson__#action JRobinson__ to be ready to contact .rst SME's if needed22:20
JRobinson__gmolson, okay, I'll look into completing that. I can also ask in the APAC meeting though.22:20
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JRobinson__#action discuss stage 2 of the cli reorg with the team in APAC timezone22:21
gmolsonok22:21
* JRobinson__ nods22:21
JRobinson__if that's all for cli reorg, we'll move to the next topic22:21
gmolsonsounds good22:21
JRobinson__#topic Check in with Oslo and Zaqar teams22:22
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JRobinson__So a past action item was to ask the Oslo docs liasons about changes to docs tools, and consistency points22:22
JRobinson__I still need to ask them22:22
JRobinson__#action Outstanding task - contact Oslo teams asap22:22
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JRobinson__And the Zaqar point was a blueprint22:23
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JRobinson__one second, just need to find the link22:23
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JRobinson__found it!22:28
JRobinson__#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/zaqar-user-guide22:29
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gmolsonyay22:29
JRobinson__sorry, that took too long22:29
gmolsonno worries22:29
JRobinson__The Zaqar team are planning to add content to the User Guide - this was a point discussed last year.22:29
gmolsonok - gotcha22:30
JRobinson__The earliest we have capacity to look at new content is after summit, I think22:30
gmolsonk22:30
JRobinson__I can contact the Zaqar docs liaison about the timeframes soon22:30
JRobinson__#action speak to Zaqar docs liaisons about the timeframes and the blueprint22:31
gmolsonok22:31
JRobinson__having said that, that's for those points22:31
JRobinson__#topic Open Discussion22:31
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JRobinson__Any questions or comments?22:31
gmolsonnot from me22:32
JRobinson__gmolson, okay, np22:33
JRobinson__if that's all, I might close the meeting for now.22:33
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gmolsonsounds good. thanks!22:33
JRobinson__gmolson, thanks very much for taking on the cli reorg, and running the review gauntlet.22:33
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gmolsonhappy to do it! Sorry to be the newb to slow things down!22:34
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JRobinson__no problems on newness. I'm still learning new things constantly.22:34
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gmolson:)22:35
JRobinson__okay, thanks :)22:35
JRobinson__#endmeeting22:35
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