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| Sukhdev | Folks Ironic-neutron meeting time | 16:00 |
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| sambetts | o/ | 16:00 |
| yhvh | \o | 16:00 |
| devananda | o/ | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting: ironic_neutron | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 8 16:00:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: : ironic_neutron)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to '__ironic_neutron' | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Agenda (Meeting topic: : ironic_neutron)" | 16:00 | |
| * devananda lurks in two meetings at once | 16:00 | |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_February_8.2C_2016 | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Annoucements | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Annoucements (Meeting topic: : ironic_neutron)" | 16:01 | |
| Sukhdev | anybody wants to make any annoucement? | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | jroll is not available today | 16:02 |
| davidlenwell | o/ | 16:02 |
| jroll | morning | 16:02 |
| jroll | I'm kinda here | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : oh good | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | So, couple of things - | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | We got 4 patches merged last week | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | I have updated the etherpad to reflect this - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-neutron-mid-cycle | 16:03 |
| vsaienko | morning to all | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | there is network flip patch that still has few comments to be addressed, it will be nice to get that merged as well | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206244/ | 16:04 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: that and the immediately-following patch are the only REST API changes needed, correct? | 16:05 |
| devananda | *in Ironic | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | devananda : actually I made mistake - posted wrong link - hang on | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | I meant this one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139687/ | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | network flip patch | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | and this one too - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213262/ | 16:07 |
| devananda | ahh ok | 16:08 |
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| vsaienko | Sukhdev: I will update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213262/ today according to Devananda's comments | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | vsaienko : cool - thanks | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | with these two merged, then we will be left with the API and devstack patches (and of course nova - which will land later) | 16:10 |
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| jroll | nova is waiting on the client patches as well | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | devananda: to answer your question, earlier patch that I posted is the only API (along with another client patch) | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : right | 16:11 |
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| devananda | Sukhdev: the second patch also has API changes, eg https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139687/58/ironic/api/controllers/v1/node.py | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | oh - :-) | 16:13 |
| devananda | I'll try to rally folks around reviewing those first two ironic patches more this week, so we can nail down the REST API changes | 16:13 |
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| devananda | fwiw, most of the patches after those should be _much_ easier to land | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : that would really help | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | In terms of testing, these patches all seem to working fine in my setup | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | I have not tested portgroups - | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | Has anybody tested portgroups? | 16:15 |
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| * devananda has not | 16:16 | |
| jroll | devananda: +1, that will let us unleash the client and then nova changes | 16:16 |
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| vsaienko | Sukhdev, I will try to add portgroup support to devstack | 16:16 |
| devananda | vsaienko: where are we with an infra job to test all of this? | 16:17 |
| sambetts | Has there been a discision made on how we're meant to be doing the host side PG config? | 16:17 |
| sambetts | decision* | 16:17 |
| sambetts | node side* | 16:18 |
| vsaienko | Sukhdev: the patch is on review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252814/ | 16:18 |
| vsaienko | Sukhdev, but I can't merge generic_switch code to openstack.org repo, until https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276200/ is merged | 16:18 |
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| Sukhdev | who needs to approve vsaienko's second patch? | 16:19 |
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| devananda | that should be an easy one for infra to land | 16:22 |
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| Sukhdev | vsaienko : does netmiko requirement belongs to global requirements or can it go into local repo? | 16:24 |
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| devananda | Sukhdev: must be in g-r | 16:24 |
| devananda | so that it can be installed / used in the gate env | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | oh - I see | 16:25 |
| vsaienko | I just paged folks at infra channel | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev | OK - I will ping infra folks later as well - hopefully we will get folks attention on this | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else on the patches? | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | Actually there is one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269157/ - for tempest testing | 16:27 |
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| vsaienko | I will rebase https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269157 on the top of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265311/ | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | vsaienko : that would be nice - thanks | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | that does it for all the patches - unless anybody has anything else | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:31 |
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| Sukhdev | Is there anything else we need to discuss? | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | Actually sambetts had asked a question - | 16:32 |
| sambetts | Re: portgroups, what is the current plan for the bonding on the node side | 16:32 |
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| vdrok | as for this tempest patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269157/ - it requires at least 2 "baremetal" vms to run (and currently it will be 3) | 16:33 |
| vdrok | we still have only one right? | 16:33 |
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| Sukhdev | vdrok : did not understand your question | 16:34 |
| jroll | sambetts: as in, pushing the config to the instance? | 16:35 |
| vdrok | Sukhdev, IIUC in gate we have only one node to run instance on | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | I thought this test will launch the needed bms | 16:35 |
| sambetts | jroll: yeah, configuring the bond on in the OS | 16:35 |
| vdrok | that tempest test boots 2 instances | 16:35 |
| devananda | vdrok: we create 3 today | 16:35 |
| vdrok | devananda, ah, ok then :) | 16:36 |
| jroll | sambetts: yeah, so we'll need to do some work to push vlans and bonding metadata into nova's metadata about the instance, and then add to cloud-init etc if it isn't there already | 16:36 |
| jroll | that'll have to be next cycle | 16:36 |
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| sambetts | jroll: so we can't really test the portgroup functionality until next cycle then | 16:37 |
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| sambetts | not with a full tempest anyway | 16:37 |
| devananda | I believe cloud-init/simple-init can do bonding, but yea, we'll have to pass it through nova | 16:37 |
| vsaienko | jroll, why instance should know about vlans? I think that is should know only which link aggeregation protocol is used (LaCP/Pagp) and mode | 16:37 |
| devananda | vsaienko: instance should not know about vlan's, but it must know about port bonding | 16:37 |
| jroll | sambetts: we can't test connectivity but we can test the apis and such | 16:37 |
| devananda | jroll: oh. yea. we don't push VLAN data down to instance | 16:38 |
| jroll | vsaienko: devananda: it... depends :) | 16:38 |
| devananda | jroll: huh? | 16:38 |
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| jroll | instance needing to know about vlans depends (I think?) | 16:38 |
| vsaienko | jroll, you are talking about case when Instance is connected to several networks right? | 16:39 |
| jroll | vsaienko: correct | 16:39 |
| sambetts | I'm working on putting together an RFE for unlocking the number of tenent networks by having vEths do the tagging in the tenant os | 16:39 |
| sambetts | if anyone's interested | 16:39 |
| jroll | sambetts: ++ that's how our deployment works | 16:39 |
| vsaienko | I thought about it, I don't like current connection scheme. We connection all ports to single network which is not right | 16:39 |
| jroll | vsaienko: yeah, I think we left "multiple networks on one physical connection" to next cycle | 16:40 |
| vsaienko | we should connect only specific port to network. And left all other unplugged | 16:40 |
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| Sukhdev | vsaienko : see long term items on the meeting wiki page (at the bottom) | 16:41 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts : I did not follow your point on RFE for multiple networks - | 16:43 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts: are you taking about vlan aware vms? | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | connecting a port to multiple networks? | 16:44 |
| sambetts | if you want to make a generic solution for baremetal that allows for more tenant networks than physical ports, unless you have some hardware magic you have to tag inside the os | 16:45 |
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| sambetts | so 1 physical port N number of tenant networks | 16:45 |
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| sambetts | or 1 lag N number of tenant networks | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts: there is an initiative in neutron called vlan aware vms - have you looked at that? | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | I do not have link handy - | 16:47 |
| sambetts | No, I've not seen it, I've only been approaching it from the Ironic perspective | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | essentially, that provides the support for connecting a port to multiple networks - | 16:47 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: are people finally working on that? | 16:48 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll : yes it is actively being worked on | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | I think they are trying to get it into mitaka | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : unfortunately, I do not have link handy - ping me later and I will look it up for you | 16:49 |
| sambetts | I think I've found it | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | there is a concept of port and sub-port - | 16:49 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: cool, glad to hear it | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | port is access port (native vlan) and sub-port is tagged vlans | 16:50 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: thats very interesting! I wonder how they are dealing with the VM side | 16:51 |
| devananda | sambetts: vlan-aware ironic instances is definitely interesting to some folks. | 16:51 |
| jroll | very much so :) | 16:51 |
| sambetts | yup :D | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev | VM side is all OVS magic :-) | 16:51 |
| jroll | right, for baremetal that will have to be magic in the switch | 16:52 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: if its not inside the VM itself then it won't work for BM | 16:52 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: one of the things I hope to test in the next week or two is using OVN instead of ML2 with this work | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | there are many use cases for this - and it becomes very compelling for bare metal services - | 16:52 |
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| * jroll looks at arista CVX and vlan->vxlan translation in the switch | 16:52 | |
| Sukhdev | devananda : yup Kyle is looking into it as well - he pinged me for it as well | 16:53 |
| devananda | cool | 16:53 |
| jroll | sambetts: they almost certainly inject the vlan info into the instance as well, if it's truly "vlan aware VMs" | 16:53 |
| sambetts | I can't see anything in the spec about it though :/ | 16:53 |
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| Sukhdev | devananda : let me know if you need any help with OVN - Ironic integration - will be glad to help | 16:53 |
| jroll | sambetts: yikes, so maybe they're waiting til next cycle for the nova parts? | 16:54 |
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| sambetts | I need to read into it more, but yeah | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : I would suggest you reach out to the implementor of that BP | 16:55 |
| jroll | sambetts: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213644/1/specs/mitaka/approved/trunk-port.rst | 16:55 |
| jroll | so yeah, looks like next cycle | 16:56 |
| * devananda saves to read that later | 16:56 | |
| Sukhdev | jroll : there is counterpart on the neutron side as well | 16:57 |
| sambetts | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243786/11/specs/mitaka/vlan-aware-vms.rst | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | yup - that one - | 16:57 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: I know, sam was asking about the instance side :) | 16:57 |
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| devananda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243786/11/specs/mitaka/vlan-aware-vms.rst | 16:58 |
| devananda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213644/1/specs/mitaka/approved/trunk-port.rst | 16:58 |
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| sambetts | jroll: I hope to have a session about my RFE at the midcycle, I need to put my ideas together then I'll put it on the etherpad agenda | 16:59 |
| devananda | jroll, Sukhdev: fwiw, I think glean (simple-init) already supports the network info structures that those propose to pass down to the instance | 16:59 |
| jroll | sambetts: awesome, thanks | 16:59 |
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| jroll | devananda: woot | 16:59 |
| sambetts | devananda: it doesn't but there are a few bits e.g. vlans missing unfortunatly | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : when you write something up, please share with us | 17:00 |
| devananda | sambetts: cloud-init doesn't? or simple-init doesn't? | 17:00 |
| sambetts | devananda: simple-init, I was looking through the code this morning, although I might have missed something, I think its planned work | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | folks - sorry, we are out of time - | 17:01 |
| sambetts | the cloud-init support is even worse I think | 17:01 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts : it will be nice if you can describe it in next meeting - | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | time is up | 17:02 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: sure I'll try to have something together by then | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | thanks for attending folks | 17:02 |
| sambetts | thanks for the conversation | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 17:02 |
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| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:02 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/__ironic_neutron/2016/__ironic_neutron.2016-02-08-16.00.html | 17:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/__ironic_neutron/2016/__ironic_neutron.2016-02-08-16.00.txt | 17:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/__ironic_neutron/2016/__ironic_neutron.2016-02-08-16.00.log.html | 17:02 |
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