Thursday, 2015-09-17

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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gate is currently stuck, failing grenade upgrade tests due the release of oslo.utils 1.4.1 for Juno.08:01
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gate back to normal, thanks to the backlisting of the problematic version10:15
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nikhilCourtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, ivasilevskaya, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, zhiyan, pkoniszewski, krykowski, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting, dshakhray14:00
nikhil#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 17 14:00:22 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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flaper87o/14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:00
nikhil#topic agenda14:00
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rosmaitao/14:00
nikhil#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:00
jcooko/14:00
kairato/14:00
pmesserlio/14:00
mfedosino/14:00
nikhilSmall agenda today14:01
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ativelkovo/14:01
nikhilI hope to discuss RC related stauff with you all in the remnant time14:01
nikhil#topic Updates14:01
jokke_o/14:01
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nikhil#info artifacts updates14:01
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mfedosinhi folks14:02
mfedosinwe still need several to be merged14:02
mfedosin*commits14:02
mfedosinhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fastTrackPatches14:02
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sigmavirus24o/14:02
dshakhrayo/14:03
mfedosinwhich are marked "essential for murano"14:03
jokke_mfedosin: those are bugfixes?14:03
mfedosinyes, all of them14:03
nikhilmfedosin: ok, we still have 2-3 days. Do you have a bug corresponding to each commit?14:03
flaper87mfedosin: ++14:03
* jokke_ makes mental note to add to the list14:03
mfedosinI think LP bugs are already in commit messages14:04
mfedosinbut I'll recheck14:04
nikhilmfedosin: in order for me to block RC{1} on those commits, I would require a bug # corres to each commit that is needed14:04
mfedosinalso we spent last three days in discussion about future development14:04
nikhilthis is for rel-mgmt14:04
mfedosinnikhil, ah, okay, will do14:05
nikhilthanks14:05
mfedosinso, I started to right documents about our decisions14:05
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mfedosinand Alex is going to right an article to Openstack wiki14:05
flaper87mfedosin: coolio14:06
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mfedosinflaper87, I heard this word from Jay Pipies yesterday =P14:06
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flaper87mfedosin: lol14:06
flaper87:P14:06
mfedosin*Pipes14:06
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mfedosin I think it's all about artifacts for this moment14:07
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nikhilcool14:07
nikhil#info drivers updates14:08
nikhilso, we mostly discussed the two FFes14:09
nikhilthere were some outstanding concerns on both14:09
nikhilhttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-09-15-14.00.html14:09
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nikhilrosmaita: helped figure out the non-requirement on checking with docs team on config options14:10
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rosmaitathey generate config manual from our sample configs in the repo, so it's up to us to get changes in on time14:11
rosmaitathey just supply a 1 paragraph intro to each config file14:11
rosmaitaand that won't change much from release to release14:11
flaper87rosmaita: I take that we're good to go with this spec14:12
flaper87right ?14:12
flaper87just trying to make sure I'm interpreting things correctly14:12
rosmaitayou mean the scrubber spec?14:12
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flaper87rosmaita: yes14:13
nikhil_k_irc bouncer dropped, sorry...14:13
flaper87sorry for not being specific14:13
rosmaitaflaper87: np, don't mean to be pedantic14:13
flaper87rosmaita: you weren't at all :)14:13
rosmaitabut yes, we are cool with scrubber config changes14:13
rosmaitabasically, docs will cut "stable release" manuals sometime after Oct 1514:14
flaper87awesome, as I mentioned in the drivers meeting, I'm happy with moving that one forward14:14
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nikhil_k_I see some test related issue mentioned on the code proposal14:15
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jokke_that sounds vaguely familiar, is that the one I still have -2 on implementation due FF?14:15
jcookjokke_: yes sir14:15
nikhil_k_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196240/14:15
nikhil_k_most probably intermittent issue14:16
jokke_is the spec merged?14:16
nikhil_k_nope14:16
nikhil_k_I will get that done today14:16
jokke_cool ... give me a ping when that gets +A and I'm happy to drop my -2 on the implementation ;)14:16
nikhil_k_let's make sure we don't create panic in the gate14:16
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nikhil_k_I missed the ova discussion14:18
nikhil_k_were there any red flags?14:18
nikhil_k_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214810/14:18
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nikhil_k_ok, if nothing. Let's move on.14:18
jokke_I still think it's modifying saved image data, but I'm not 100% sure14:18
flaper87we haven't had the ova discussion14:18
flaper87but:14:19
flaper871) The spec still has some nits to fix from rosmaita14:19
flaper872) The implementation is not there yet14:19
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flaper87jokke_: it is not14:19
flaper87I'm happy to exaplin this offline14:19
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flaper87(unless I didn't read the implementation properly)14:19
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jokke_cool14:19
flaper87I commented on the implementation earlier today14:20
flaper87trying to keep my comments limited to relevant things and not nits that could be fixed later on14:20
flaper87that's it from me14:20
flaper87I'll keep following up on that one14:20
nikhil_k_Thanks, I believe it's not modifying the saved image data looking at the flows but good to double check.14:21
jokke_yes I have tried to avoid to tangle into typos etc as well14:21
nikhil_k_Feels like it can make it by Monday. I think we should have to discussion with the developers/commiters that if it's not ready one of us will just fix the things and get it done.14:21
rosmaitai will go back and look at my nits and see if they really matter in the big picture14:22
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jokke_I also don't want to see it merged half baked so if it's not making it, please lets not just merge it for the sake of it14:22
rosmaitajokke_: +114:22
nikhil_k_yes14:22
flaper87nikhil_k_: it'd be great if you or sabari could sync w/ them. They are in the west coast and it's quite difficult for me14:23
jokke_there are still quite a few actual concerns in the comments14:23
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nikhil_k_I feel hesistent about merging import related stuff at this time of cycle if they aren't completely done.14:23
mclaren+114:23
flaper87jokke_: ++14:23
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flaper87jokke_: the ones that I've written down I consider important14:23
nikhil_k_flaper87: sure, I will act as mediator.14:24
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jokke_flaper87: I totally agree with that14:24
mclarenI don't think the ova should merge14:24
mclarenUses existing Glance import taskflow14:24
mclarenthere is a serious question mark over whether that's a real thing or not14:25
rosmaitawell, that depends who you talk to14:25
flaper87mclaren: well, it uses tasks14:25
nikhil_k_so,if the API is public we HAVE to support it14:25
mclarenyes, but tasks seem to be operator specific things14:25
rosmaitamclaren: that depends14:25
mclarenI think it's enough of a grey area not to rush this out14:25
nikhil_k_it depends whether we communicate it as primary API or something hidden14:25
mclarenwe don't want another non-standard way of uploading images14:26
flaper87I think this a topic for the summit (tasks, public, API, ops, etc)14:26
rosmaitaflaper87: +114:26
nikhil_k_if the API is public it will hardly pass DefCore to be admin only, btw14:26
rosmaitabut i want to point out that tasks have been in the public API for 2-3 cycles now14:26
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nikhil_k_The question is which is the standard API14:27
nikhil_k_and that is a different question from all of this14:27
rosmaitasounds like defcore thinks v1 is the standard api14:27
* flaper87 really wants to put this discussion on hold until he can hug the rest of the team in tokyo14:27
mclarenrosmaita: which tasks? which well-defined tasks?14:27
nikhil_k_more of a overarching question but still a different discussion14:27
nikhil_k_flaper87: I think what we want to come out of this conversation today is14:28
nikhil_k_1. can we merge this by Monday?14:28
nikhil_k_2. how badlly this will affect the standard workflows if merged?14:28
flaper87I think this specific spec is unrelated to the tasks api discussion14:28
mclarenI think it has the potential to cause more confusion14:29
flaper87However, at this point, I'm becoming more and more doubtful of this work bing ready in time14:29
mclarenwe need to take heed of Doug's mail and sort out a standard upload/import thing14:29
nikhil_k_ok, let's sycn offline14:29
rosmaitamclaren: that's true, but it's kind of late to bring that up to the team working on OVA right now14:29
flaper87and, as mentioned before, I've no intention to rush it14:29
mclarenthis spec should not go in before we do that14:29
mclarenrosmaita: honestly? tough14:30
mclarenwe are under the microscope from the community at the moment14:30
rosmaitai guess it's just part of the magic of working on glance14:30
jokke_that is fair point, this has possibility to divert the deployed clouds more than the current situation and I think it's fair question to ask is this jeoparding our priorities ref. defcore ... at least I don't have answer for that14:31
mclarenI think rushing this in isn't worth it14:31
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flaper87mclaren: I agree that rushing this is not worth it, I support that14:32
flaper87the question we also need to answer, though, is whether after we have the tasks/api discussion we'll still have these things as tasks or not14:32
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rosmaitai think there will still be tasks, just a matter of how they are exposed14:33
jokke_Also I don't know if making this available for this cycle out of tree will make it any better14:33
flaper87Say, hypotetically, we decide that the import flow should go. I believe we'll still have tasks14:33
flaper87rosmaita: right14:33
mclarentasks are fine!14:33
nikhil_k_So, afaict this isn't affecting any more than what's already there.14:33
flaper87Note that what is being questioned are not tasks specifically but using them as a way to import images and then having 2 upload APIs, etc14:33
flaper87nikhil_k_: my point exaclty.14:34
flaper87but I see where mclaren is coming from14:34
mclarenyes, we need to stop thinking in terms of an application and in terms of an API14:34
jokke_flaper87: ++, thus I think that's fair question to ask even this late in the process14:34
nikhil_k_and the API isn't changing14:34
flaper87jokke_: fully agree14:34
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mclarennikhil_k_: I'm not sure I agree14:35
flaper87and honestly, if I have to choose between creating more confusion and waiting 1 cycle, I'd probably go with the later14:35
nikhil_k_so, one thing is for sure tasks can't be the standard API if not everyone can expose it in a standard way14:35
flaper87nikhil_k_: I think the 'standard' term is being misused everytime we talked about APIs14:36
mclarenI think that the image_import task was signalled to be a 'sample'. There is nothing about this spec to suggest it is not the official way to import ovas14:36
flaper87because there's more to it than just what's exposed14:36
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nikhil_k_deprecating task workflow isn't going to be just one cycle thing, we need to support it for a few cycles the way it is possible using versioning of some sort14:36
mclarenand must be supported at all sites14:36
flaper87we should also add to the discussion whom we're exposing the api to14:36
mclarenI'm not sure we need to deprecate 'tasks'14:36
flaper87I think tasks should stay14:36
flaper87the discussion we need to have is about the API14:37
flaper87more specifically, the *images* API14:37
mclarenwe just shouldn't put official upload stuff under /tasks14:37
flaper87Everything related to image management14:37
nikhil_k_we are talking about deprecating tasks-workflow the way it is, if that's where community decides to go14:37
flaper87no, we're talking about deprecating the import-flow and re-use tasks in a different way14:37
nikhil_k_I think the message was clear to the proposers that this won't be a standard way for them to upload ovas14:38
nikhil_k_rosmaita: had specifically asked for it to be admin only14:38
nikhil_k_is the impl not doing that yet14:38
nikhil_k_?14:38
flaper87I don't think mclaren argument is about what the proposers think but about what ops and users will think about this14:38
flaper87nikhil_k_: I believe it checks the amdin context14:38
flaper87yes14:38
flaper87actually, yes. I remember reading that14:39
rosmaitayes, me too14:39
nikhil_k_if it's a admin only way to upload ovas, I think this won't break the standard API clause more than what is being discussed -- was my point14:39
flaper87again, I think the impl as it is now seems fine and assuming it'll be updated, we should be ok14:39
nikhil_k_agree14:40
flaper87but taking time to think about mclaren's question won't harm14:40
flaper87and we should do it before we finally merge that code/spec14:40
nikhil_k_so, we can't wait more than one day for Liberty14:40
mclarenagain, if we view things as an application it will work. If we want to have a sane api I think it makes no sense not to wait until we have the new upload workflow and integrate with that14:40
nikhil_k_and it's feels like a decisive moment to me14:40
mclarenum s/not to/to/14:40
rosmaitai was having trouble parsing that sentence!14:40
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flaper87:P14:41
mclarenheh14:41
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jokke_I think it makes perfect sense ref what mclaren said before14:41
jokke_makes sense to wait until14:41
jokke_couple of extra nots, to put pressure on the point ;)14:42
jokke_but maybe that's just because I'm Finnish14:42
flaper87jokke_: lol14:42
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mclarenhm, wasn't I not right first time?14:43
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jokke_wasn't joking we use structures like that14:43
nikhil_k_yeah, I thought so too14:44
nikhil_k_or may ne s/no sense/sense/14:44
mclarenor nonsense?14:44
nikhil_k_heh14:44
nikhil_k_on this lighter note, let us give time to other agenda items.14:44
nikhil_k_#topic     Should we move to openstackclient?14:45
mclarenout of curiousity who added this one?14:45
nikhil_k_#topic  Should we move to openstackclient?14:45
* flaper87 didn't14:45
nikhil_k_#topic Should we move to openstackclient?14:45
buntingMe14:45
nikhil_k_eh14:45
nikhil_k_where's the bot14:45
rosmaitathat topic really doesn't want to change14:45
buntingI thought it would be an intresting question, since some of the other services do it14:45
flaper87openstack yo, 'sup ?14:45
jokke_nikhil_k_: it stuck to the double not loop14:46
nikhil_k_:)14:46
mclarenSo I have a question...14:46
mclarenwhat is the story with clients being deprecated?14:46
nikhil_k_bunting: I think this is something a few of us are thinking too14:46
flaper87mclaren: clis or libraries ?14:46
mclarenIs it that the clients are mainly to me used to provide the libraries but the CLI should be OSC?14:47
flaper87mclaren: correct14:47
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jokke_I had discussion around OSCli with someone just yesterday or so, let me find my analogy about it14:47
nikhil_k_it's a possibility14:47
mclarenSo what consideration did we give to that when we landed 1.0.0 on the world?14:47
nikhil_k_it's a possibility and not a reality yet14:48
mclaren(which we're ripping out of our product as we  speak by the way)14:48
nikhil_k_what do you mean by product?14:48
mclarensorry, HP thing14:48
nikhil_k_ah14:48
flaper87I'd personally like glanceclient to be a library14:49
mclarenshould we be telling users whose scripts we have broken to switch to OSC?14:49
flaper87and have a consistent way to do CLIs14:49
jokke_it's like deprecating cp, touch, mv, ln, cat, etc.etc.etc. and creating filetools which would be used like `filetools ext4 copy-file-from-to /path/from/somewhere /path/to/somewhere`14:49
flaper87Many benefits, from an OpenStack perspective, to it14:49
nikhil_k_+114:49
flaper87One of those is not having to do crazy thinks to parse keystone parameters14:49
flaper87s/thinks/things/14:49
jokke_it's so far from any principal "make one tool for one job" as anything can be14:50
flaper87That regardless jokke_'s anology being a bit accurate14:50
flaper87However, I don't think it lifts the responsibility from us14:50
nikhil_k_Having a single clean API should be a concern at the OpenStack level and operator specificities can be handled at bulk there.14:50
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nikhil_k_that's true14:50
nikhil_k_too*14:50
flaper87BUT, it does gives us an opportunity to get the CLI right since I doubt it has a complete implementation14:50
nikhil_k_and by OpenStack level I mean, broder community and not a single program14:51
mclarenthey oppose anything that breaks backwards compatibility (I asked)14:51
jokke_"""since M$ moved to powershell certain loud folks have started to insist that all-command-line-parameters-are-read-out-for-them and that command are ok to be 497 characters long before user input ... I'm surprised that those folks are not running all their cli command with bash -c thinking that all the commands are just subcommands"""14:51
flaper87One of the things I'd love to do, if we ever decide to use osc (which I kinda think we shoud), is to not map the cli 11 w/ the glance api14:51
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mclarenthe OSC folks will make those kinds of decisions14:51
flaper87but rather do something that can hypotetically be forward compatible14:51
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flaper87mclaren: right but thinking that moving to OSC will just remove that work from us is not right14:52
flaper87we'll still have to collaborate14:52
mclarenyes, Niall is working with them now14:52
nikhil_k_I doubt if we will be able to get rid of the CLI completely14:52
nikhil_k_at least that's the feedback I have14:52
flaper87I hope we won't just move all the patches re v1 from glanceclient to osc :P14:52
flaper87mclaren: bunting ^14:53
buntingnikhil_k_: We could add deprectaion warnings though14:53
flaper87nikhil_k_: if we want to, we can14:53
flaper87keystone is doing that, for example14:53
flaper87and other projects too14:53
nikhil_k_who uses it most is going to be definitive of the standardisation like mentioned above14:53
nikhil_k_matching with the API is going to be tricky14:53
rosmaitawe could add deprecation warnings by default for all commands, then we'd be covered14:53
mclarenso if a user comes onto IRC 'image-create' is broken. Do we say switch to OSC or do we say update your glance scripts?14:53
nikhil_k_tools like warlock were for such a thing and can be a real pain14:53
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flaper87I mean, we'll keep the old CLI but we wouldn't update it14:53
nikhil_k_I doubt if we can get OS-C getting to implement that14:54
jokke_I'd rather like to see OpenStackClient consuming the OpenStackSDK and then we could just abandon the python-glanceclient repo ;)14:54
nikhil_k_that is something doesn't seem viable jokke_14:54
flaper87mclaren: if it's a bug, I think it'd be fine to fix it for a while14:54
flaper87mclaren: just like we did w/ v114:54
flaper87we've committed to maintain the code that has been released14:55
mclarenas have OSC14:55
flaper87and we have to do so14:55
flaper87however, it doesn't mean we have to keep updating it14:55
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flaper87we can just recommend users to get the latest hotness from osc14:55
nikhil_k_btw, folks we've one more item on the agenda14:55
mclarenI'm not saying anything about not maintaining the client, I'm just trying to figure out if, as the clients are deprecated we should recommend OSC14:55
mclarenfor scripting in particular14:56
flaper87mclaren: first we have to decide if we want t omigrate to OSC and how we're going to help OSC folks14:56
mclaren(it's what devstack uses)14:56
flaper87once we've that effort covered, I think we'd be good to say that14:56
nikhil_k_mclaren: I doubt if that's becoming a practice yet but seems like the right direction14:56
flaper87FWIW, zaqar just uses OSC, no CLI merged in zaqar14:56
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mclarenOk, does anyone want to mention any of the priorities that Doug had in his mail?14:57
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nikhil_k_what do you mean?14:57
nikhil_k_by *mention*14:58
mclarenDunno I guess I thought it would be on the agenda14:58
jokke_I would ... them all ... if you haven't done so yet, go and read the chain14:58
nikhil_k_bunting: seems like you item may have to wait. it was a late addition fwiw.14:58
flaper87mclaren: ++14:58
nikhil_k_your*14:58
buntingnikhil_k_: Yeah, thats fine14:59
flaper87jokke_: ++14:59
nikhil_k_mention where?14:59
rosmaitahttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074360.html14:59
flaper87#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074360.html14:59
rosmaita(it's mentioned!)14:59
flaper87:P14:59
mclarennice!15:00
jokke_ok, we got out of time :(15:00
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nikhil_k_lol15:00
nikhil_k_mentioned! yay!!15:00
nikhil_k_thanks all for joining15:00
mclarenthanks15:00
nikhil_k_#endmeeting15:00
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TravT#startmeeting openstack search15:01
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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sjmc7hey15:02
TravThas sigmavirus24 been around recently?15:02
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rosmaitawas talking to him earlier15:02
TravThere's the agend15:03
sigmavirus24sorry15:03
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TravT#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda15:03
sigmavirus24I'm doing $work things on a vidyo call15:03
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sigmavirus24can't really focus on an IRC meeting15:03
TravTsigmavirus24: yeah, that's hard.15:03
TravT#topic release planning15:03
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TravTSo, i just asked and was told to go ahead and move all the blueprints and bugs implemented to be targeted at liberty RC115:04
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TravTjust did that with blueprints.15:04
TravTwill do that with bugs15:04
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TravTand then will remove the liberty 1, 2, 3 milestones.15:04
sjmc7when's the rc date?15:05
TravTdon't have concrete on that?  turns out the person i was pursuing for help yesterday was out sick.15:05
TravTdavid-lyle: nikhil_k_ is tomorrow the date for horizon / glance RC1?15:06
david-lyleTravT: next week15:06
TravTok, that's all i've know as well.15:06
david-lyleFFE should be in by the end of the week15:06
nikhil_k_TravT: early next week15:06
TravTjust didn't know an exact date15:06
david-lyleproject dependent15:06
david-lylewhen you're ready15:07
TravTi think we're looking to be in good shape by end of next week on searchlight15:07
TravThttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/liberty15:07
TravTwe'll defer a couple on the bottom15:08
TravTbut there is one i want to add15:08
TravThttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/field-faceting15:08
TravTsteve's been working on it15:09
sjmc7i have! it's pretty close to finished15:09
TravTand i'm looking to consume it today with the horizon plugin15:09
TravTthe other BP with good progress is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/plugin-config-options15:10
TravTi'll look to provide a real review on that today if ekarlso has already addressed your concerns sjmc715:10
sjmc7i was just looking at that. one minor thing but that's very close15:11
TravTok, then i'll go ahead and look it over.15:11
TravTsigmavirus24: this might be a good one for you to review as well if you can.15:11
TravThttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/223318/15:12
TravTso otherwise, we have to address bugs15:12
TravThttps://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight15:12
TravTthere are a few that i've found working on horizon plugin that affects searching.15:13
TravTNeed to normalize created_at / updated_at15:13
sjmc7i've been working my way through them :)15:13
TravT#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/149646115:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1496461 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Unable to search / sort based on create date or update date" [High,New]15:13
sjmc7i've got some proper time to spend on this for a few days at least15:14
TravTbasically, some data (nova servers) use created / updated as field name and have a certain date format15:14
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TravTand others (designate) use created_at and updated_at with a slightly different date format15:14
TravTthe field name in particular is the problem for searching15:15
TravTi can make queries that work around it15:15
TravTbut i don't think we should force users to do that.15:15
TravTand i don't know how to deal with sorting15:15
sjmc7sorting we can deal with15:15
sjmc7understanding what kind of string search you're trying to do is trickier15:16
TravTso, an idea is that we normalize that every doc has one or the other of the two and they can keep their original field.15:16
sjmc7for created and updated yes, i think we can normalize those15:16
TravTi'm not sure what is the better standard.  created_at  updated_at  vs created  / updated15:17
lakshmiSso multiple formats?15:17
TravTdoes anybody know if this is published anywhere?15:17
TravTrosmaita: is this in the api working group?15:17
sjmc7which is more popular?15:17
rosmaitaTravT: don't know15:18
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sjmc7i think updated_at is more commonly used15:18
sjmc7nova, neutron at least15:18
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rosmaitayeah the _at is very popular15:18
rosmaitaTravT: did you mean the _at or the actual content of the filed?15:18
TravTboth i suppose15:18
sjmc7the content should be iso 860115:20
lakshmiSi think we should have both fields in timeinmilliseconds additional to other format15:20
TravTnova servers actually use created.  not the _at15:20
sjmc7hmm... you sure? our plugin doesn't :)15:20
TravTyep15:21
TravTsearching searchlight with created returns nova as well15:21
sjmc7ok. maybe it's a coin toss then :)  i prefer _at15:22
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TravTwell, i can go either way... just wanted to know if there was a recommended api standard for openstack15:22
TravTwe also need to better index the names in a standard way.15:23
TravThttps://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/148823615:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1488236 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Sorting name fields does not behave as expected" [Undecided,New]15:23
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TravTanyway, these are affecting my horizon plugin work.15:25
sjmc7that one we can fix with the elasticsearch suggested way15:25
TravTyeah, i think so too.15:25
TravTWith the horizon plugin, it still lives locally.15:25
sjmc7though only for explicitly mapped fields15:25
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TravTtrue15:26
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TravTi encountered a few bugs with upstream horizon widgets that are affecting my searchlight panel and have bugs submitted on them and hopefully somebody working to fix them.15:26
TravTbut i think on track for a very demoable panel by next week15:27
TravTmoving on...15:27
TravT#topic functional tests15:27
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TravTlooks like lakshmiS fixed the merge conflict15:28
sjmc7i will test it again today15:28
lakshmiSyeah i rebased it15:28
TravTok, i'll look then.15:28
sjmc7the config options endre's been adding will help with it15:28
TravThmm, so should we get those in first?15:29
sjmc7not necessarily. let's see how close each of them are15:29
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TravTok.15:30
TravTgetting functional tests in feels like the best first step15:30
TravTto prevent regressions.15:30
sjmc7yeah15:30
lakshmiSor else every change commited will require a fix in functional test patch15:31
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lakshmiSit should be other way around15:31
sjmc7yeah, ok15:31
TravTok, are there any specific review and bugs needing discussion in IRC today?15:31
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lakshmiShttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/221307/15:31
lakshmiSnikhil_k: can you take a look at it15:32
TravTnikhil_k_: ^15:32
TravTwhat with all the failures?15:32
lakshmiSthe failures are not related to patch itself15:32
lakshmiSevery other patch is failing currently in zuul15:32
TravTwell, that's fun15:33
lakshmiSmaybe overload since it fails to install requirements15:33
lakshmiSbut if glance team can take a look at it and test it to see if its generating notifications that would be helpful go get reviews15:34
lakshmiSs/go/to15:34
TravTsigmavirus24: ^ glance patch15:34
sjmc7ah, yeah15:34
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TravTI don't have any other agenda topics. anybody else?  If not, was thinking we could adjourn to the openstack-searchlight channel and just spend 30 minutes on reviews and interacting.15:36
TravThttp://tinyurl.com/searchlight-reviews15:36
TravTmaybe we could close out a couple of those15:36
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sjmc7no, i don't15:37
sjmc7just reviews15:37
TravTok, i think that'd be the best use of time15:37
TravTat this stage.15:38
TravT#endmeeting15:38
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prometheanfirehi16:01
cloudnull#startmeeting OpenStack Ansible Meeting16:01
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evrardjpo/16:01
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prometheanfire\o16:02
cloudnull#topic Agenda & rollcall16:02
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Sam-I-Amyo16:02
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cloudnull#chair odyssey4me16:02
openstackCurrent chairs: cloudnull odyssey4me16:02
odyssey4meo/16:02
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serverascodeo/16:03
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cloudnullso lets jump right in16:03
cloudnull#topic Review action items from last week16:03
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cloudnullSam-I-Am to create an etherpad for the config changes he finds for future OSAD implementation16:03
Sam-I-Ami did this16:03
Sam-I-Amwell, doing16:03
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cloudnulllink ?16:04
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odyssey4mewe had a link already16:04
Sam-I-Amyeah, we did16:04
evrardjpwe did ;)16:05
Sam-I-Ami have it here somewhere buried in tabs16:05
cloudnulli found it16:05
cloudnull#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-config-changes16:05
Sam-I-Amhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-config-changes16:05
cloudnullso its still a work in progress, but gives us something to start reviewing.16:05
Sam-I-Amits getting updated as i hit services16:05
Sam-I-Amright now i'm in the middle of rearchitecting the upstream install guide, so there's a pause on the neutron stuff16:06
Sam-I-Amlooks like middleware changed again, so i get to dig through the gates for those updates16:06
cloudnullsweet. great work on those bits. we'll keep watchfull on the etherpad.16:06
cloudnullnext16:06
cloudnullodyssey4me to switch the blueprint for juno->liberty upgrades to 12.1.016:06
odyssey4meyup, done16:07
prometheanfireuh, we are doing juno -> liberty without going through kilo?16:07
evrardjpwasn't it kilo -> liberty in the previous meeting?16:07
stevelledeja vu16:07
odyssey4meyeah, I put the wrong thing in :p16:08
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evrardjpthe action points weren't updated ;)16:08
cloudnullpalendae: Sam-I-Am: we also have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207713/ which is liberty upgrade related,16:08
cloudnullgit-harry: had a lot of good feedback there. itd be good to get that updated / replied to when possible.16:09
odyssey4mepalendae ^16:10
odyssey4meoh, silly me didn't see that he was already notified :p16:10
palendaeYep, I'm gona look over it16:10
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palendaeOh wait16:10
palendaeThat's mine16:10
cloudnullit is.16:11
cloudnullso moving on16:11
cloudnull#topic Liberty Release Blueprints (note dependencies)16:11
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cloudnull#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/liberty-release16:11
cloudnullin that segment the bigest one pending is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/tunable-openstack-configuration16:12
cloudnullwhich has the following items that need to be reviewed https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack-ansible+branch:master+topic:bp/tunable-openstack-configuration,n,z16:12
evrardjpsuch a cool spec. If it was one facebook I'd almost like it.16:12
cloudnullha16:13
evrardjp(the first one)16:13
odyssey4melol16:13
odyssey4meyou can +1 :p16:13
stevelleI'm going through review of those but taking my time16:13
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cloudnulltwitter is the new facebook16:13
evrardjpI don't have them16:13
evrardjp:p16:13
evrardjpsorry for the off-topic.16:14
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cloudnullnot at all.16:14
cloudnull:)16:14
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cloudnullnext in that which needs some review https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/named-veths16:14
cloudnulloh nevermind i guess the docs merged.16:15
odyssey4mecloudnull there's an issue with https://review.openstack.org/178259 which needs fixing too16:15
cloudnull#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/upgrade-mariadb-v1016:15
cloudnullyea that was next. i need to get back to reviewing / updating that16:15
cloudnullunless someone else wants to step in16:16
cloudnull#action cloudnull - continue working on https://review.openstack.org/178259  for MariaDB 1016:16
cloudnulland this needs to go to16:17
cloudnull#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/limit-mysql-config-distribution16:17
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odyssey4meyeah, if that slips then I think it's ok16:18
cloudnullnext on my pile is mariadb but i hope to tackle that soon.16:18
cloudnullthe rest of the major specs look ok16:19
cloudnullunless i missed one ?16:19
cloudnullor something else ?16:19
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odyssey4menope - just need more reviews16:19
prometheanfirenot sure if we are there yet, but ipv6 spec?16:19
cloudnull++ please :)16:19
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prometheanfirenot a req for liberty though16:20
prometheanfireactaully mitaka16:20
evrardjpprometheanfire: wasn't that supposed to be also worked in the summit?16:20
odyssey4meipv6 spec is less urgent as it's for the mitaka cycle16:20
cloudnull^ that16:20
cloudnullwhat evrardjp said16:20
prometheanfireya, forgot about that16:20
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cloudnull#topic Mitaka Summit Discussion Agenda (input required)16:20
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cloudnullodyssey4me:  has been working on this a bit , tyvm btw16:21
cloudnullif you have things youd like to add into the sessions, please do so16:21
odyssey4meor proposed sessions16:22
cloudnullanything and everything is welcome .16:22
odyssey4mewe'll have to select sessions based on our final allocation of space16:22
odyssey4mebut please note the moderator, etc - don't just add a topic16:22
odyssey4mealso note that each session will require some preparation16:22
cloudnullthese sessions are about us as a community building all of this better so everything is welcome16:23
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cloudnullnext16:24
cloudnull#topic Docs16:24
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cloudnull-- Items in progress or otherwise in need of work --16:24
cloudnullhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=rpcdocs&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_16:24
cloudnullcommenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on16:24
evrardjpthanks for the work done by the doc team first16:24
cloudnullah...16:24
Sam-I-Ammmm, docs16:24
cloudnull++ evrardjp said, docs team is awesome !16:25
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evrardjpsorry if we sometimes put DocImpact without doing the doc that comes with it when we are in a hurry16:25
cloudnullso the links are too damn big to paste in16:25
evrardjpurl shortner?16:25
cloudnullyup its happening16:25
cloudnullhttp://bit.ly/1iS6krb16:26
odyssey4me#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bugs?field.assignee=rpcdocs16:26
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cloudnullthese are the items we have with docimpact that may beed work16:27
cloudnull#link http://bit.ly/1izGIiZ16:27
cloudnullif anyone has cycles to help out thata would be great.16:27
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evrardjpI'm not sure to fully understand the DocImpact, I thought it was required to tag DocImpact when there is a change that can impact docs, even if the change is about docs itself16:27
evrardjpis this still right?16:28
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cloudnullid say yes16:28
evrardjpok16:28
Sam-I-Amnoooo16:28
cloudnullbut the OS infra system will create an issue in launchpad16:28
cloudnullanytime you use the tag16:28
Sam-I-Amyou use docimpact if you have a code change that requires docs, but does not include docs16:28
evrardjpok Sam-I-Am16:29
Sam-I-Amif you include docimpact with a docs patch, it makes a new bug that tells docs folks it needs documentation16:29
cloudnull^ from the docs people.16:29
Sam-I-Amrealistically, you should include docs with your patch16:29
cloudnullso lets stop doing that from now on :)16:29
Sam-I-Amthen if you want help making them better, tag a docs person in the review16:29
evrardjpSam-I-Am: I thought this was need to follow branches16:29
evrardjpin order to follow the documentation changes accross merges, starting from master to the end branch16:30
evrardjp-1 if no doc is provided then16:30
evrardjpok16:30
Sam-I-Amwhat do you mean?16:31
evrardjpthe best way to achieve good docs is to not merge if there is no doc ;)16:31
Sam-I-Amwell, yeah16:31
Sam-I-Amdocimpact is just a way to toss it over the fence16:31
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Sam-I-Amusually to someone that doesnt understand what you did16:31
Sam-I-Amits best used when something is obvious16:31
odyssey4meI am a fan of rather including docs as we go.16:31
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evrardjpyeah, I think it should be done that way too16:32
evrardjpI've put docimpact in the past to track the docchanges16:32
Sam-I-Amyeah, and it made a mess of docs bug tracking16:32
cloudnull^ me too16:32
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Sam-I-Am'hey wait, this is docs'16:32
odyssey4meI do think that there's some base work that needs to be done to update the docs to make this entirely feasible, but that's not going to happen unless we start to enforce it.16:32
cloudnull++16:33
evrardjp+116:33
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evrardjpI'll help fix what I broke in the docs personnally Sam-I-Am. Mea culpa!16:33
cloudnull#action Everyone - start -1 changes that dont had docs16:33
Sam-I-Ampeople either tag me in reviews, or i see docs things when i look through all reviews16:33
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cloudnullso regarding all of these things - http://bit.ly/1izGIiZ http://bit.ly/1iS6krb - we need to pick through doc the changes where needed and close items that are irrelevant.16:33
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cloudnullmoving on16:35
cloudnull#topic Reviews16:36
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cloudnull#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:cloudnull+status:open,n,z16:36
cloudnull#link http://bit.ly/openstack-ansible-review-starred16:36
cloudnullthese are some inflight things that need to be looked at16:36
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cloudnullsorry ... irc bouncer connection was dropped16:40
cloudnullwe always need more reviews. and if you can help out on some of the inflight changes it would be most appreciated.16:41
evrardjpnoted16:41
cloudnull#topic Upcoming Milestones16:41
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cloudnull#link https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/liberty-316:42
odyssey4meoops, forgot to update that - that one's been released16:42
odyssey4me12.0.0 is the next for master16:42
cloudnull#link https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/12.0.016:42
cloudnullha.16:42
cloudnullwas looking at that thinking damn we're awesome !16:43
cloudnulland for kilo16:43
cloudnull#link https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/11.2.216:43
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cloudnullsorry16:43
cloudnull#link https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/11.2.316:44
odyssey4meactually16:44
odyssey4me#link https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/11.2.316:44
odyssey4meha16:44
cloudnulli have a couple things to add to that but otherwise kilo is looking nice16:44
evrardjpwhat's the deadline for it?16:44
cloudnull2015-09-2516:45
odyssey4methis needs to go in for that https://review.openstack.org/22456216:45
evrardjp11 september according to launchpad ;)16:45
cloudnullfor 11.2.316:45
* odyssey4me forgot to update the agenda16:45
cloudnullme too16:46
cloudnullso lastly16:46
odyssey4meif any other patches get backports then we'll add them to that milestone16:46
cloudnull#topic Open discussion16:46
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evrardjpelections?16:46
cloudnullsure16:47
evrardjpcloudnull: you don't continue to be PTL?16:47
odyssey4meelections are September 18 - September 2416:47
evrardjpdon't want to*16:47
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cloudnullhttps://github.com/openstack/election/tree/master/candidates/mitaka/OpenStackAnsible16:47
cloudnullevrardjp: nope im stepping aside16:47
cloudnulltime for someone new :)16:47
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stevellethanks for helping bring us this far cloudnull16:47
evrardjpit's cool to let the others do, too. ;)16:47
evrardjpyeah ty16:48
cloudnullit is16:48
evrardjpand good luck to our only candidate for now ;)16:48
cloudnullso far our only candidate is odyssey4me , that said if someone wants to run please submit your proposal16:48
Sam-I-Amthe only one crazy enough16:48
Sam-I-Amthe rest of us like our health16:48
evrardjp:)16:48
odyssey4melol16:48
Sam-I-Amwell, marginally better health16:48
cloudnullmoar beer youll be fine16:49
odyssey4meso on the topic, I'd like to suggest that we rotate the chair for the bug triage and community meetings16:49
evrardjpI've looked at his punchcard recently, yeah it's impressive... Most of you are ;)16:49
cloudnullodyssey4me:  ++16:49
odyssey4meideally I'm thinking along the lines of someone volunteering to be the next chair early in the meeting16:50
cloudnullI think thats a great idea16:50
odyssey4methat way not all responsibility sits on one person all the time16:50
cloudnull#vote should we have a rotating chair in meeting, yes or no?16:50
evrardjpit makes sense16:51
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odyssey4meyes16:51
cloudnullopps16:51
cloudnull#startvote should we have a rotating chair in meeting, yes or no?16:51
openstackBegin voting on: should we have a rotating chair in meeting, yes or no? Valid vote options are Yes, No.16:51
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.16:51
odyssey4me#vote yes16:51
cloudnullnow go vote :)16:51
Sam-I-Am#vote yes16:51
cloudnull#vote yes16:51
evrardjp#vote yes16:52
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BjoernT#vote yes16:52
cloudnullwhile that happening , anything else anyone wants to bring up ?16:52
Sam-I-Amwell then16:52
prometheanfire#vote yes16:53
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cloudnull#endvote16:54
openstackVoted on "should we have a rotating chair in meeting, yes or no?" Results are16:54
cloudnullso i think thats all we've got today .16:54
odyssey4meit seems so16:54
evrardjpResults are... ?16:54
cloudnullit seems the bot is at a loss of words16:55
Sam-I-Amfail16:55
odyssey4melol16:55
Sam-I-Ammaybe its case sensitive?16:55
cloudnulllikely because we all said, yes and not Yes16:55
cloudnull:)16:55
evrardjpit could have said "0% Yes"16:55
cloudnull#action everyone - start a rotating chair at the beginning of meetings16:55
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cloudnullso we're done here.16:55
prometheanfiresuch a good bot16:56
cloudnullthanks everyone16:56
evrardjpk thx16:56
prometheanfirecya16:56
cloudnullhave a good one16:56
cloudnull#endmeeting16:56
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cathy_#startmeeting service_chaining17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 17 17:00:30 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cathy_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
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cathy_hi everyone17:00
vikramhi17:00
s3wonghello17:01
mohankumar_Hi17:01
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cathy_any topics you have in mind? I have several.17:02
LouisFhi17:02
xgermano/17:02
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cathy_1. action items, 2. Document links 3. CLI integration with APi 4. Horizon client status17:03
johnsomo/17:03
s3wongcathy_: sounds good17:03
cathy_#topic last meeting action items update17:04
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cathy_ACTION: Louis or Cathy finish and post the UT codes (cathy_, 17:44:55) ACTION: Louis or Cathy finish and post the updated API, DB, DB migration, Driver Manager etc. codes to be compliant with the approved APIs (cathy_, 17:45:46)17:04
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cathy_These actions have been completed. UT codes and updated API, DB, DB migration and Driver Manager codes were uploaded17:05
cathy_I see a Jenkins -1. Louis?17:06
LouisFi am working on the merge issue and will post new patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207251/17:07
cathy_LouisF: cool. thanks17:07
cathy_ACTION: vikram investigate full-stack testing and bring the info back in next IRC meeting (cathy_, 17:46:46)17:07
cathy_vikram: any update?17:07
vikramSorry, I couldn't much.. I was on a vacation17:08
vikramUrgently, need to go home17:08
cathy_vikram: OK, could you get this done by next meeting?17:08
vikramsure.. i will17:08
cathy_vikram: Thanks.17:09
cathy_#action vikram investigate full-stack testing and bring the info back in next IRC meeting17:09
cathy_s3wong investigate neutron feature testing and bring the info back in next IRC meeting17:09
cathy_s3wong: any update?17:09
s3wongso for Neutron, outside of the aforementioned (in the last meeting) tests of {unit, functional, API, Tempest}17:10
s3wongthere are two more: {Grenade, Rally}17:10
s3wongGrenade is for upgrade/downgrade, which doesn't affect us17:11
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cathy_s3wong: could you elaborate on these two?17:11
s3wongand Rally is for scale, which at this point we shouldn't put too much effort at this point17:11
cathy_s3wong: I see. Thanks!17:11
cathy_w.r.t functional and API testing, we are covering these in the UT. DO you mean there are some other specific API testing we need to cover?17:12
s3wongcathy_: as the projects become bigger (hopefully), we need to separate out the API tests17:13
s3wongcathy_: Neutron does that17:13
vikramAPI tests test plugin and neutron-server integration.. I believe it will be usefu17:13
vikramAs per neutron, any change in the API we should have corresponding API test case.17:14
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cathy_vikram: do you mean change in the original Neutron API or change in SFC API?17:15
vikramcathy_: anything new as well..17:15
vikramcathy_: 'change' menas 'addition'/'deletioin/'modification'17:16
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vikramSFC is also neutron sub-project ;)17:16
cathy_vikram: 'addition'/'deletioin/'modification' in Neutron API or in SFC API?17:16
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cathy_vikram: could you clarify what you mean?17:17
vikramfor SFC API also it should be applicable17:17
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vikramcathy_: As we have added new API's, I believe we MUST add API testcases17:18
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cathy_vikram: let's break the issue down so that we are on the same page. If Neutron API change, as long as we have our SFC testing scripts, we can verify whether there is collateral damage. If SFC API change, I assume that tempest tests will catch any caveat17:19
vikramcathy_: We will be adding Tempest right?17:20
vikramcathy_: You just mentioned unit tests?17:20
cathy_vikram: yes, we will run tempest17:21
cathy_vikram: our UT includes API testing and functional testing. As s3wong mentioned, in the future we could consider separating them17:21
vikramcathy_: Then that will be fine.. But in my view we need to have some opinion with exiting cores like amuller or armax on this17:22
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vikramcathy_: These will be responsible for approving test sufficiency I believe17:22
cathy_vikram: sure. would you like to take the action item? Or I can take that17:22
vikramcathy_: My plate is full :) Better someone can take this UP17:23
cathy_ok17:23
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cathy_#action Cathy check with Neutron core to see if any integration testing with Neutron is needed. Also how to automate the testing of SFC functionality when Neutron API change17:24
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cathy_ACTION: pcarver follow up with Abhinav on functional testing and get back to us in next meeting.17:25
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cahtysorry folks, I got disconnected17:27
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cathy___hi17:28
s3wongcathy_: cathy___: seems like both you and LouisF are having problems17:29
cathy___s3wong: yes17:29
cathy___now I am back. sorry about this.17:29
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cathy___Paul sent me email telling me that he can not join today's meeting.17:29
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cathy___So let's get the status of the action from him in next meeting.17:29
cathy___But he sent me some work he has finished. Let me share the info here17:30
cathy___A new meeting agenda link is created which you can add your topic to it before each week's meeting.17:31
cathy___#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting17:32
cathy___Paul said Change to publish networking-sfc/doc/source documents to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/networking-sfc has merged17:32
cathy___But when I checked, that link is invalid. Could you check to see if it is valid?17:33
LouisFnot found17:33
cathy___#action Louis contacted Paul to let him know the issue.17:34
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LouisFi will check with Paul17:34
cathy___#action Louis contacts Paul to let him know the issue.17:34
cathy___#topic CLI integration with API17:36
cathy___vikram: mohankumar_ any update or issue?17:36
vikrammohankumar_: Please update the status17:37
mohankumar_Facing some integration issue with server code17:37
vikrammohankumar_: What issue?17:37
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mohankumar_Plugins are not getting installed correctly ..while starting devstack getiing installation error17:38
LouisFwhat install error?17:39
mohankumar_Tomorrow I 'll check with vikram and get back17:39
cathy___mohankumar_: OK, sounds good.17:39
vikramcathy__: Thanks for posting the code...17:40
LouisFok contact me on any problems17:40
vikramcathy__: Will update the status by tomorrow EOD17:40
cathy___vikram: sure17:40
vikramLouisF: Thanks17:40
cathy___vikram: sure17:40
cathy___#topic horizon client status17:40
mohankumar_cathy__: Horizon patch with compliant with new api ,  planning to publish in  next week ..17:40
cathy___mohankumar_: cool17:41
cathy___#action mohankumar_ publish Horizon client codes next week17:41
cathy___#topic code review timeline17:41
vikrammohankumar__: great work!17:42
vikrammohankumar_: great work!17:42
cathy___mohankumar_: yes, great work and thanks for your contribution17:42
mohankumar_cathy___: vikram  thanks17:42
cathy___what is a reasonable timeline for us to finish the integration testing and code review?17:43
cathy___let's put some pressure on everyone:-)17:43
mohankumar_cathy___: directory structure need to modify as per entry points specified17:44
mohankumar_In setup.cfg file17:44
cathy___mohankumar_: OK, could you post your comment on this online?17:45
LouisFmohankumar_: will fix17:45
mohankumar_cathy___:  I did17:45
cathy___mohankumar_: OK, thanks.17:45
cathy___LouisF: thanks for fixing this.17:46
mohankumar_LouisF: thanks17:46
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cathy___LouisF: vikram s3wong mohankumar_ what do you think is a reasonable timeline to have the code review completed?17:47
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vikramcathy__: Code size is around 8K.. We need atleast 2 weeks time17:48
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LouisFoct 9?17:48
mohankumar_vikram: +117:48
vikramLouisF: that would be fine for me17:48
s3wongcathy___: yeah, I think what vikram said is reasonable... this patch set is too big for a quick glance. we probably need at least 2 weeks17:48
cathy___How about 3 weeks, by Oct. 9th let's get ready to merge the codes?17:49
LouisFsure17:49
s3wongcathy___: +117:49
s3wongcouple weeks before the summit for any slippage, sounds reasonable17:49
mohankumar_cathy___: sounds good17:49
vikramcathy__: I would have preferred breaking the patch sets in chunks for effective review :)17:50
vikramcathy___: But anyways, let's not do that now .. as we have lot of other wrok17:50
vikramcathy___: 3 weeks would be okay17:51
cathy___#agreed everyone helps with the integration testing, bug fixes, and update of the codes and actively does code review. We will have all review done and code merged by 10/9/201517:52
cathy___any other issue you would like to discuss?17:52
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cathy___s3wong: if you see some issues of the codes, feel free to fix them and upload new patches. OK with you?17:53
s3wongcathy___: sure17:53
cathy___s3wong: thanks!17:53
vikramcathy___: +117:54
LouisF+117:54
cathy___That's all for today's meeting. bye now.17:54
LouisFbye17:54
mohankumar_Bye17:54
s3wongbye17:54
cathy___#endmeeting17:54
vikramI believe if we want to make it happen then all of us should jump rather making cathy___ and LouisF to fix all the comments17:55
s3wongcathy___: well, you are no longer cathy_ who started the meeting :-)17:55
LouisF+117:55
cathy___vikram: 100% agree17:55
s3wongcathy___: so I don't think your #endmeeting is going to work anymore :-)17:55
cathy___s3wong: Ok I see17:55
vikram;)17:55
cathy___s3wong: how to fix it?17:55
s3wongcathy___: unfortunately no way to fix that :-(17:56
vikramprobably we can ask infra help17:56
s3wongcathy___: next time make other attendees chairs just in case17:56
vikramotherwise i feel meeting couldn't be logged?17:56
cathy___s3wong: sure.17:56
vikramcathy___: register nick for you17:57
cathy___s3wong: we would like the meeting to be logged. Anyway to do this?17:57
vikramcathy___: you will never have this issue then17:57
LouisF#nick Louis17:57
s3wongcathy___: cathy_ has dropped out, so you may be able to log back in as cathy_?17:57
cathy___s3wong: OK, let me try17:57
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s3wongLouisF: I do believe one would have a issue a /msg to NickServ17:58
cathy___s3wong: vikram before I try, could you copy the meeting logs into a file and we can ask the infra team to post them if nothing works17:58
cathy___I only see partial log17:58
vikramme too17:59
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s3wongcathy___: try /nick cathy_17:59
vikrami have copied17:59
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cathy___vikram: thanks!17:59
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cathy_#endmeeting18:00
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s3wongcathy_: there :-)18:00
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s3wongcathy_: see, not too hard :-)18:00
cathy_cool! s3wong Thanks!18:00
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cathy_s3wong: :-) :-)18:00
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