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| pabelanger | <assignedNode>{node}</assignedNode> | 00:15 |
| pabelanger | for JJB | 00:15 |
| pabelanger | that is the compiled xml | 00:16 |
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| fungi | SotK: that was nothing. i can actually hold conversation for minutes at a time as long as you're boredom-resistant | 01:10 |
| fungi | also, good to meet you in meatspace too! | 01:11 |
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| mpaolino | fungi, did you have chance to try to solve the issue about my multiple gerrit accounts ? | 12:48 |
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| fungi | mpaolino: i investigated, but you had dropped out of the channel by then. it turns out your two accounts have distinct usernames, ssh keys, have both agreed to the icla/submitted contact info, et cetera, so need to know which one you want to use going forward. if you browse to https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/ after logging into gerrit, you'll see a username and account id displayed | 13:36 |
| mpaolino | fungi, thanks | 13:37 |
| mpaolino | the username is m.paolino | 13:37 |
| fungi | i see there's an account 12273 with username mpaolino, and an account 12274 with username m.paolino | 13:37 |
| fungi | just to be sure, that's the ssh username in the gerrit remotes of your local git repositories too? | 13:37 |
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| fungi | i've before seen people who accidentally created additional accounts using one in the gerrit webui and the other for ssh/push | 13:38 |
| mpaolino | indeed I am investigating why there are two users | 13:38 |
| fungi | given the close proximity of accounts ids (gerrit assigns them sequentially) i'm guessing you initially authenticated to launchpad with one e-mail address, then immediately switched to a different one | 13:39 |
| fungi | looks like 12273 was created with a login for a gmail.com address, and then 12274 was from a login with a virtualopensystems.com address | 13:40 |
| fungi | likely back in july of 2014 | 13:41 |
| mpaolino | yes, it is probably like that | 13:42 |
| mpaolino | is it possible to merge the two accounts? | 13:42 |
| fungi | not really. i can make it so that if you log in with either address they both take you to the same account in the webui, though you'll no longer have control of changes created by the other account | 13:43 |
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| mpaolino | that's something, thanks | 13:43 |
| fungi | also an account can only have one ssh username, so i'd need to know which one you're using. the account id associated with the ssh username you've used so far is probably what you need to keep active so that you don't end up with changes you're no longer owner of | 13:44 |
| mpaolino | so I have to take be careful with gerrit/SSH | 13:44 |
| fungi | anyway, i need to start walking to the board meeting, but should be able to check in again once i get on the wireless there | 13:44 |
| fungi | bbiab | 13:44 |
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| mpaolino | yes, OK, m.paolino is fine | 13:48 |
| mpaolino | thanks | 13:48 |
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| fungi | mpaolino: cool, just a sec and i'll mangle that around | 14:04 |
| mpaolino | ok | 14:04 |
| mpaolino | np | 14:04 |
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| fungi | mpaolino: i've added the openid from 12273 to your 12274(m.paolino) account, set account 12273 inactive and flushed gerrit's caches. if you were logged into the webui as that account you should log out and back in and the correct username/account id will be displayed under your settings page | 14:10 |
| mpaolino | great | 14:10 |
| mpaolino | and what about the devstack-plugin-tar-installer groups? | 14:10 |
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| fungi | mpaolino: i should be able to successfully add you now, just a sec | 14:11 |
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| mpaolino | OK, sure | 14:11 |
| mpaolino | fungi, are you in Austin btw? | 14:12 |
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| * mordred waves to fungi | 14:12 | |
| * mordred waves to clarkb too | 14:12 | |
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| fungi | mpaolino: yep | 14:12 |
| clarkb | good morning | 14:12 |
| mpaolino | as far as I remember there registration starts at 3PM, is there some meeting ongoing for admins/etc? | 14:12 |
| fungi | mpaolino: done adding you to those groups now | 14:12 |
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| mpaolino | great, thank you very much | 14:13 |
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| fungi | mpaolino: this morning is the foundation board of directors meeting, and this afternoon is a joint meeting between the board and technical committee | 14:14 |
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| mpaolino | busy times :) | 14:14 |
| clarkb | mordred: fips look good now on osic, are we running the garbage collector now? | 14:14 |
| mordred | clarkb: nope | 14:14 |
| clarkb | ooh nice | 14:14 |
| mordred | clarkb: we have 4 leaked on bluebox | 14:15 |
| clarkb | and our dib images are mostly up to date (yay weekends and travel) | 14:15 |
| mordred | clarkb: I'm trying to decide whether I think we should put the shade debug logging in place again to try to see why bluebox is still leaking | 14:15 |
| clarkb | 1-3 days old on images in clouds | 14:15 |
| mordred | clarkb: nice | 14:15 |
| mordred | clarkb: if we don't watch out, we're going to have a mostly working nodepool system | 14:16 |
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| clarkb | yup, and your frequent restarts of the system have exercised by fixes for the image state too. pretty happy about that working now | 14:17 |
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| mordred | woot! | 14:20 |
| * clarkb confirms that unbound is running on centos-7 now so we can move forward on fixing glean's handing of resolv.conf | 14:20 | |
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| clarkb | mnaser: will you be at the summit? if so maybe we can have a quick chat about vexxhost flavors? | 14:21 |
| clarkb | jeblair: mordred seeing a recurrence of the bounces for root mail to y'alls email | 14:22 |
| clarkb | spamhaus unhappy | 14:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add Build Name Setter to Builders https://review.openstack.org/308457 | 14:31 |
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| clarkb | yolanda: is there another change to go along with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307581/8 that will not overwrite resolv.conf if it is read only? | 14:34 |
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| mordred | clarkb, fungi: do we have minimum disk footprint for nodepool nodes defined yet? | 14:53 |
| clarkb | mordred: I don't know if it is officially on the docs yet but we need roughly 80GB | 14:53 |
| fungi | i think we know that much lower than 80gb gets challenging | 14:53 |
| fungi | but also that depends on how it's carved up. there might be some terrible ways we could have an 80gb aggregate without it being especially usable | 14:54 |
| fungi | so that's sort of our bare minimum in a rootfs-only model | 14:54 |
| clarkb | I can survey they various regions really quickly and paste some df output | 14:54 |
| yolanda | clarkb, i thought we finally decided to move to config file. Do we want to share both approaches? | 14:56 |
| clarkb | See I though twe decided on the other thing :) | 14:56 |
| clarkb | we can dig up irc logs | 14:56 |
| clarkb | I really like the simplicity of "don't write read only files" | 14:57 |
| clarkb | because that makes the config side easy | 14:57 |
| mnaser | hi clarkb | 14:57 |
| * mnaser is in flight to austin right now | 14:57 | |
| greghaynes | Is there a reason for making a config file over read only? I'd really not like to add a config file unless theres a thing that specifically solves | 14:57 |
| yolanda | from latest conversations, and conversations with mordred, i thought we decided to move over glean.conf | 14:58 |
| mnaser | and sure, i'm going to be getting there at around 12pm and i'm free until 6pm. be nice to catch up and talk with -infra folks! | 14:58 |
| clarkb | mnaser: awesome, will look to find you | 14:58 |
| mnaser | i need to figure out a way to be reachable as i dont have irc on anything beyond my laptop | 14:59 |
| greghaynes | Regardless, we should support the readonly case (right now its a bug that we dont) so that should be step 1 regardless I think, if there is some argument for why glean needs a config file then I think that is a separate deal | 14:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Fifield proposed openstack-infra/groups: Link group name to group URL in status report https://review.openstack.org/306353 | 15:02 |
| fungi | heads up, avoid tagging releases for python projects at the moment https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2016-April/028627.html | 15:03 |
| fungi | i'll give the release channel a heads up too | 15:03 |
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| yolanda | so from the chat logs, the idea of a glean.conf was supposed to be a good one. I can send an independent change for the resolv.conf in readonly mode as well | 15:06 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Fail functests if refusing to run tests https://review.openstack.org/177002 | 15:06 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Install docker for tests https://review.openstack.org/278021 | 15:06 |
| clarkb | mordred: http://paste.openstack.org/show/495245/ | 15:07 |
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| clarkb | yolanda: not just resolv.conf in read only. I think where we write out the files we should do that for all files | 15:09 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add tests for building *-minimal images https://review.openstack.org/181162 | 15:09 |
| clarkb | mordred: looking at that df output 80GB is basically the floor, and we know that if we go too much lower some tests get unhappy | 15:10 |
| mordred | clarkb: awesome. it looks like we've added that to the contributing page | 15:11 |
| fungi | and again, that's assuming we have a contiguous 80gb available. if we had 40 gb rootfs and 40gb ephemeral, i don't know that still holds | 15:12 |
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| clarkb | fungi: right | 15:12 |
| fungi | we get by with smaller rootfs in some places, but have much larger auxiliary block devices for the overflow | 15:12 |
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| fungi | e.g., rackspace we get an 80gb ephemeral, where we put 8gb swap and 72gb /opt with d-g | 15:14 |
| fungi | which augments the 38gb rootfs sufficiently | 15:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Move hook generation in to python https://review.openstack.org/271139 | 15:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Allow setting per-release mirrors for tests https://review.openstack.org/279691 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | João Vale proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Fix Generic Artifactory repository key selection options. https://review.openstack.org/309582 | 15:32 |
| morgan | stevemar: ... Have some defcore things we need to chat about when you're here. | 15:32 |
| morgan | mordred: ^ cc | 15:33 |
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| morgan | also that should have been in #openstack-keystone. | 15:35 |
| mordred | morgan: it's ok. this is the default openstack general channel :) | 15:35 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add ability to check for mount leaks https://review.openstack.org/280018 | 15:35 |
| morgan | LOL | 15:36 |
| morgan | mordred: if only the whole -keystone team was listening here. | 15:36 |
| * fungi takes that as a cue to +f #openstack-dev into here | 15:36 | |
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| fungi | (not really) | 15:36 |
| morgan | fungi: woot. | 15:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tony Breeds proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Sort the freeze_venv output https://review.openstack.org/309793 | 15:43 |
| fungi | low-hanging-fruit: answer https://ask.openstack.org/question/91435 (and remind people that they can come in here or ask on our ml, since few on the infra team pay close attention to ask.o.o) | 15:43 |
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| mordred | fungi: we hadn't done that already? | 16:09 |
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| clarkb | pabelanger: looks like devstack-centos7 min-ready is set to 0, we have 4 instances ready for almost 2 days. I am going to delete those 4 so that we don't keep those jobs registered | 16:16 |
| clarkb | then hopeflly soon we can remove the label entirely | 16:17 |
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| * clarkb is excited to reduce our image list to the current minimal set | 16:18 | |
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| clarkb | we do 9 image uploads per image built, removing a redundant image will speed up the whole rtt on that process | 16:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Install constrainted version of babel https://review.openstack.org/309809 | 16:25 |
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| fungi | lifeless pointed out in #openstack-release that the twine upload problem was with warehouse, not cheeseshop/pypi. we're not uploading to warehouse yet so don't need to avoid tagging releases of stuff for now after all | 16:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add release notes jobs for diskimage-builder https://review.openstack.org/295100 | 16:31 |
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| AJaeger | pabelanger: good catch on the broken node. Not sure how to implement this... | 16:39 |
| clarkb | mordred: I am noticing that debootstrap bootstraps an old kernel on trusty. Seems odd | 16:39 |
| clarkb | our image build process should address that, but your other uses of ubuntu-minimal may not be so happy | 16:39 |
| lifeless | clarkb: probably doesn | 16:40 |
| * AJaeger waves from Chicago... | 16:40 | |
| lifeless | t include the updates repo ? | 16:40 |
| clarkb | lifeless: maybe? I only saw the old -24 kernel fly by in the image build output | 16:40 |
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| mordred | clarkb: yah. we should figure out how to add updates repo to the deboostrap process | 16:43 |
| clarkb | mordred: even if it is just a step post debootstrap in the debootstrap or ubuntu-minimal elements | 16:43 |
| clarkb | first pass is base install, second pass is update | 16:44 |
| clarkb | I have ocnfirmed that random trusty node in osic is running newer kernel so we should be fine for now, this is mostly to cover other users of the element | 16:45 |
| greghaynes | Oh, that's fun | 16:45 |
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| mordred | yah. maybe we should add a config setting for the element that would allow you to opt-in to updates in a sane way? or make an updates element? or something more sane than those things | 16:46 |
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| greghaynes | hrm, itd be awesome if we didnt have to do a two-step thing | 16:55 |
| greghaynes | not sure how thats possible though | 16:55 |
| greghaynes | (for getting the kernel from updates) | 16:55 |
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| fungi | kernel package installs are somewhat time-consuming because of initrd rebuilds | 16:55 |
| fungi | so, yes, not installing kernels we're not going to boot would also save some build time | 16:56 |
| greghaynes | yea | 16:56 |
| clarkb | definitely would be prefered to do it off the bat, but I have no idea if that is possible with debootstrap | 16:56 |
| clarkb | aiui debootstrap has a standard list of things and goes fromthere? maybe it doesn't specify version? | 16:56 |
| greghaynes | dunno, I couldnt find anything in the man so time to rtfs | 16:57 |
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| clarkb | you must not be in a meeting right now :P | 17:00 |
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| greghaynes | yep, its pretty great :) | 17:02 |
| greghaynes | although I am about to be in a car for a few hours while en-route | 17:02 |
| clarkb | ok break time, /me afks | 17:03 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: fungi looks like there isnt a way to make debootstrap use the -updates (or any non $SUITE repo) as part of building. AFAICT though ubuntu-minimal will always add the -updates repo and then do a dis-upgrade after the debootstrap | 17:28 |
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| greghaynes | so what we dont support is using the non -updates kernel | 17:29 |
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| AJaeger | pabelanger: you should be able to add to tools/run-compare-xml.sh a grep "<assignedNode>{node}</assignedNode>" .test/new/out/* to test for the problem you noticed. | 18:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/requirements: Babel Integration tests https://review.openstack.org/309808 | 18:17 |
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| pabelanger | o/ | 18:54 |
| pabelanger | AJaeger: Cool, will hack on it this week | 18:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/publications: Updates for austion 2016 https://review.openstack.org/309825 | 19:06 |
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| pabelanger | docaedo: pleia2: Updates we talked about ^ | 19:06 |
| mordred | pabelanger: austion is an awesome place | 19:07 |
| rcarrillocruz | helo helo | 19:07 |
| rcarrillocruz | hoping everyone had safe travels to Austin | 19:07 |
| pabelanger | mordred: party has started! Beer in hand | 19:07 |
| * rcarrillocruz goes check the summit schedule | 19:07 | |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/publications: Updates for Austin 2016 https://review.openstack.org/309825 | 19:07 |
| rcarrillocruz | i preferred austion! | 19:09 |
| rcarrillocruz | pabelanger: your tweet from yesterday, i understood by gate that you were *in* the building :-) , not the ci gate :D | 19:09 |
| pabelanger | rcarrillocruz: ah | 19:10 |
| rcarrillocruz | unlocked gate as *in* the venue XD | 19:10 |
| * rcarrillocruz tries to spin up a devstack instances , got like 2Kb/s download rate on Madrid hotel | 19:11 | |
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| rcarrillocruz | mordred, Shrews : is there anything you want me to look at on shade? looking for new stream of works to spend my time on... | 19:13 |
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| rcarrillocruz | s/stream of works/streams of work/ | 19:16 |
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| mordred | rcarrillocruz: I tossed a small comment on your recordsets patch - but I don't know if Shrews agrees or has thoughts | 19:18 |
| rcarrillocruz | ah yeah, was awaiting for his feedback too... i can amend or address in a follow up patch, either way wfm | 19:18 |
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| rcarrillocruz | if you want something specific you need help or work , just give me a shout. I'll give a round to SB tickets on shade in the meantime | 19:23 |
| fungi | greghaynes: that sounds like mostly what we want (if not an efficient implementation), so the question remains why were we seeing outdated kernels in images | 19:23 |
| rcarrillocruz | fungi: if there's any specific stuff that needs eyes, give me a shout | 19:23 |
| clarkb | well I only caught it in the logs I didnt check a ubunyi-minimal only build on its own | 19:24 |
| clarkb | so I may be mistaken that iy isnt later updati g | 19:24 |
| fungi | rcarrillocruz: thanks, will do | 19:26 |
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| pleia2 | pabelanger: aside from docaedo's notes, lgtm | 20:38 |
| anteaya | pleia2: hey there, where art thou? | 20:39 |
| * anteaya is sitting in the board meeting | 20:39 | |
| pleia2 | anteaya: at the hilton, got in just a little bit ago | 20:39 |
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| anteaya | pleia2: glad you are here! | 20:39 |
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| clarkb | wow you optimized for summitting | 20:40 |
| * clarkb is jealoud | 20:40 | |
| rcarrillocruz | doing some stuff at the hotel, and have gsw vs hou on the tv | 20:41 |
| rcarrillocruz | will go to the summit shortly to pick up my badge | 20:41 |
| rcarrillocruz | i'm assuming folks are at the Hilton, and not the Hilton Garden Inn ? | 20:41 |
| rcarrillocruz | haven't crosses any of you here... | 20:42 |
| rcarrillocruz | s/crosses/crossed | 20:42 |
| fungi | clarkb and i are housed in the four seasons | 20:42 |
| fungi | though a lot of us are in the jw marriott for the joint board/tc meeting right now | 20:42 |
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| waynr | i just arrived in austin | 20:43 |
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| waynr | i found gelato | 21:03 |
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| mordred | rcarrillocruz: gs v hou looks tight - is it a good game? | 21:18 |
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| rcarrillocruz | yeah...a bit of a shame that S Curry just went to the locker room...not feeling good on his ankle (again) | 21:19 |
| rcarrillocruz | :/ | 21:19 |
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| mordred | gah | 21:22 |
| mordred | I really want him to not be hurt hurt | 21:22 |
| clarkb | I selfishly want portland to play san antonio but to do that they have to beat gs if gs beats houston | 21:23 |
| clarkb | therefore gs should lose | 21:23 |
| clarkb | >_> not that portland is going to beat the clippers but meh | 21:23 |
| rcarrillocruz | heh, yeah, beating the clippers is going to be tough... | 21:24 |
| rcarrillocruz | k, going to grab my badge , brb | 21:25 |
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| clarkb | dhellmann is my hero | 21:47 |
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| dhellmann | clarkb: :-) | 21:47 |
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| * nibalizer getting excited to see yall in person | 22:00 | |
| nibalizer | summit hyyype | 22:00 |
| clarkb | already using yall | 22:00 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: i think i always use yall | 22:01 |
| fungi | youins | 22:01 |
| clarkb | well then all set for texas | 22:01 |
| rcarrillocruz | so i get yall as a texaism ? | 22:01 |
| clarkb | it is a south thing | 22:02 |
| clarkb | texas is sort of in the south | 22:02 |
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| * rcarrillocruz is gonna get annoyed by the green strap thing for stackcity pretty soon | 22:02 | |
| rcarrillocruz | shouldn't have agree to put it in on my wrist yet | 22:03 |
| rcarrillocruz | sigh | 22:03 |
| clarkb | you dont put it on yet | 22:03 |
| waynr | yall++ | 22:03 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: soubds like its already too late | 22:03 |
| fungi | rcarrillocruz: yikes, yeah you won't be able to take it off once it's on :/ | 22:04 |
| rcarrillocruz | trap! | 22:04 |
| nibalizer | rcarrillocruz: haha trendsetter | 22:04 |
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| rcarrillocruz | lol | 22:05 |
| anteaya | rcarrillocruz: wow, they want you to wear the party wrist band on already? | 22:07 |
| rcarrillocruz | i don't know, maybe the registration girl saw me a party-hard face , who knows :D | 22:08 |
| anteaya | making friends :) | 22:08 |
| fungi | you do look like you can handle a good party | 22:09 |
| rcarrillocruz | i used to | 22:09 |
| fungi | (even moreso now that you have a party bracelet on) | 22:09 |
| rcarrillocruz | my clubbing days are gone! | 22:09 |
| clarkb | I hear that it is a requirement in your part of the world | 22:10 |
| rcarrillocruz | yeah...i wonder if she put it on due to my nationality, heh | 22:11 |
| * rcarrillocruz is happy to be here, but also looking forward to have folks in Barcelona later in the year | 22:11 | |
| * fungi is looking forward to it | 22:11 | |
| rcarrillocruz | clarkb: so, the cinder volume thing for launch node | 22:12 |
| anteaya | rcarrillocruz: yes, I am looking forward to Barcelona | 22:12 |
| rcarrillocruz | did that merge? | 22:12 |
| rcarrillocruz | i saw you pushed a patchset per my comments a few days ago | 22:12 |
| anteaya | rcarrillocruz: also glad you are here | 22:12 |
| rcarrillocruz | not sure if that landed | 22:12 |
| rcarrillocruz | anteaya: ++ | 22:12 |
| clarkb | rcarrillocruz: I dont think so, I addressed the comments and fixed one more issue | 22:12 |
| rcarrillocruz | lol | 22:12 |
| clarkb | so it needs review | 22:12 |
| rcarrillocruz | clarkb: you must be happy, it'll probably get another change in and you'll have to rebase again :D | 22:12 |
| clarkb | bah no! | 22:12 |
| mordred | rcarrillocruz, clarkb: we should come out of this week using rcarrillocruz's ansible role instead of launch_node | 22:14 |
| mordred | given that we'll have the three of us in the same room for more than 5 minutes | 22:14 |
| mordred | there is one key use case I think we need to discuss in person faces | 22:14 |
| * rcarrillocruz crouches to avoid clarkb resistance | 22:14 | |
| clarkb | mordred: please see the etherpad | 22:15 |
| clarkb | I will stabby stabby | 22:15 |
| clarkb | I need something that works 2 months ago | 22:15 |
| clarkb | I made a thing that works | 22:15 |
| clarkb | no one would get it in before their other pets | 22:15 |
| clarkb | which means the only eay to do a thing that worls is yo use a fork of our tooks | 22:15 |
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| clarkb | I am fine to work on the ansible thing but FIRST I wamt curremt tool to work | 22:16 |
| rcarrillocruz | clarkb: right, otoh i'd like at least more people checking that stuff and if it makes sense put some migration plan... haven't got feedback except from mordred :/ | 22:16 |
| clarkb | so we havr athing we can revert to or use whioe we iterate on new thing | 22:16 |
| mordred | or | 22:16 |
| mordred | we can land your patch on the shade launch node | 22:16 |
| mordred | this week | 22:16 |
| clarkb | rcarrillocruz: I cannot gove feedback becausr I am far too busy making sure the ship doesnt sink | 22:16 |
| mordred | and we can also use our time in the room to figure out the design nigglies with the ansible thing | 22:17 |
| mordred | because launch node is and always has been a bug | 22:17 |
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| clarkb | rcarrillocruz: I would love to be able to have that yime but I dont because nothing gets done on the bug fix side | 22:17 |
| clarkb | its all features features features | 22:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Elizabeth K. Joseph proposed openstack-infra/publications: Updates for Austin 2016 https://review.openstack.org/309825 | 22:17 |
| clarkb | mordred: its a bug that we need | 22:17 |
| mordred | yes | 22:17 |
| mordred | I don't disagree | 22:17 |
| mordred | but if we don't talk about design for the future while we're in person | 22:17 |
| mordred | that's crazy | 22:17 |
| clarkb | sure lets talk and maybe even work on it friday | 22:18 |
| mordred | since there are hard questions | 22:18 |
| rcarrillocruz | yeah | 22:18 |
| mordred | yah | 22:18 |
| mordred | that's all I'm saying | 22:18 |
| clarkb | but first lets fix what we have | 22:18 |
| mordred | I think we can also land your thing | 22:18 |
| rcarrillocruz | i mean, i can understand your point of just sticking of what we have | 22:18 |
| clarkb | its less sticking to ehat we have and more We need it for operations today | 22:18 |
| rcarrillocruz | it's just it's odd to me we are coding in python something like 'pass on environment to use other groups' to the launch node thing when that's something available ootb in ansible | 22:18 |
| clarkb | I get incredibly frustrated whrn I have to do things toake sure the project worls and cant easily because featurrs demanf more time than bug fixes | 22:19 |
| clarkb | I love new features buy we have added a small handful that have made my life unfun | 22:20 |
| rcarrillocruz | clarkb: dude, i keep on asking 'send stuff to me', happy to help...I'm a bit lost at times of what i can do to help the ops side of things of infra | 22:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/requirements: Babel Integration tests https://review.openstack.org/309808 | 22:20 |
| rcarrillocruz | thus i have to find stuff to work on myself, which may or may not align to what cores think is valuable as *now* | 22:20 |
| clarkb | afs mirrora have worked well but we didnt make our tools support it | 22:20 |
| clarkb | for example | 22:20 |
| clarkb | rcarrillocruz: ya unfortunately thr current task tracking situation isnt great | 22:21 |
| clarkb | which is related | 22:21 |
| rcarrillocruz | indeed | 22:21 |
| mordred | ++ | 22:21 |
| rcarrillocruz | and for someone who's not US timezone, it's hard to spend time with you folks to figure out what's cooking and what needs to be fixing | 22:21 |
| mordred | I think this is all actually quite strongly related to that | 22:21 |
| clarkb | and at times it can feel that I am tasked with making evetyones elses stuff actually work | 22:21 |
| clarkb | after they somehow force it in | 22:21 |
| clarkb | and I am just asking that we invert that | 22:21 |
| clarkb | fix bugs first | 22:21 |
| clarkb | add features next | 22:22 |
| rcarrillocruz | agree with that, yet let's find some time to talk about some planning | 22:22 |
| rcarrillocruz | friday | 22:22 |
| rcarrillocruz | or beer night | 22:22 |
| rcarrillocruz | whenever | 22:22 |
| clarkb | now that storyboard has email things maybe we say "everyone we are pushing on storybaord, setup email iy helps" then try and use it properly again | 22:23 |
| clarkb | because that will help I think | 22:23 |
| mordred | clarkb: yah. I've been thinking that | 22:23 |
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| anteaya | AJaeger: yay | 22:24 |
| clarkb | I really like the idea of using ansible to launch node I just worry about perpetuating the situation of new features go in, clarkb loses a week fixing them in order to do operational requirements" | 22:24 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: I saw you submit a patch and wondered where you were | 22:24 |
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| mordred | clarkb: yah. I totally don't want that | 22:25 |
| mordred | clarkb: but that's why I want to make sure that we use time together to poke at it _with_ you | 22:25 |
| rcarrillocruz | yup | 22:25 |
| rcarrillocruz | i don't want to be the guy giving moar work | 22:25 |
| rcarrillocruz | i wanna do both | 22:25 |
| rcarrillocruz | new features | 22:25 |
| rcarrillocruz | AND | 22:25 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: one change from Chicago and then gertty submitted somthing for me ;) | 22:25 |
| rcarrillocruz | fix whatever is not working and cores deem is worth working on | 22:25 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: nice | 22:25 |
| AJaeger | wait, those were reviews, not changes by gertty | 22:25 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: it was a change | 22:26 |
| * AJaeger is tired - my internal clock says 0:26 - and my alarm went off this morning at 4:00 ;( But I made it ;) | 22:26 | |
| clarkb | It would also be great if other people would jump on operational issues (happy to walk through things with people too, our docs definitely dont cover wverything) | 22:26 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: I guess this was it: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2016-04-24.log.html#t2016-04-24T18:18:58 | 22:27 |
| * clarkb grumbles at dib | 22:27 | |
| anteaya | AJaeger: here you are! welcome! | 22:27 |
| AJaeger | thanks, anteaya | 22:28 |
| rcarrillocruz | clarkb: i'd love to, yet it can be a bit hard not being core as you don't have 'eyes' to look at things... (which is one of the reasons of having my interest on bringing up minimal infra CI to test out things) | 22:28 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: :) | 22:28 |
| rcarrillocruz | anyway, looking forward to talk about this this week clarkb | 22:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Elizabeth K. Joseph proposed openstack-infra/publications: Updates for Austin 2016 https://review.openstack.org/309825 | 22:29 |
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| clarkb | rcarrillocruz: mordred there is also a potential to do the switch to ansible inventory based launching as we reprovision to upgrade the OS services ruj on | 22:35 |
| clarkb | (which we have another session for) | 22:35 |
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| rcarrillocruz | you mean for the xenial upgrade thing? | 22:36 |
| clarkb | this will ensure it works and avoid needing to try and shove old stuff in(but maybe that is desireable anyways) | 22:36 |
| clarkb | rcarrillocruz: ya for trusty and xenial upgrades | 22:36 |
| rcarrillocruz | hmm, yeah, that looks like a good vector to try it out | 22:36 |
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| Shrews | mordred: rcarrillocruz: i have not looked at the recordsets changed yet | 22:38 |
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| rcarrillocruz | no rush Shrews | 22:38 |
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| rcarrillocruz | not like i'll be working on ansible modules off that code this week | 22:38 |
| rcarrillocruz | Shrews: you in summit btw ? | 22:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Elizabeth K. Joseph proposed openstack-infra/publications: Updates for Austin 2016 https://review.openstack.org/309825 | 22:39 |
| Shrews | rcarrillocruz: yes | 22:39 |
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| rcarrillocruz | ++ | 22:39 |
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| rcarrillocruz | btw, mordred Shrews : marking https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000538 as invalid, i can create an image with a description set via kwargs | 22:47 |
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