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| sobersabre | hi. guys. I'm trying to send a patch to jjb, and I probably don't have permissions. I probably should talk to someone... | 01:34 |
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| sobersabre | there's a long list of committers: who do I ask to have access to send patches to jjb? | 01:35 |
| jlk | sobersabre: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute | 01:35 |
| jlk | sobersabre: it's somewhat self service, but basically you need an account to send things to gerrit for code review | 01:35 |
| jlk | outside of that, filing an issue in launchpad and perhaps attaching a patch might work | 01:35 |
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| sobersabre | jlk: I have an account (IIRC), and I have a patch, but I don't have permission. who has the keys? | 01:37 |
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| jlk | you don't have permission to do what, gerrit review? | 01:37 |
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| jlk | http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#development-workflow what part fails along here? | 01:38 |
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| notmorgan | clarkb: +2/+A'd your fix for occ | 01:39 |
| notmorgan | clarkb: we should do a release to fix the issue(s) | 01:39 |
| notmorgan | cc jeblair ^ | 01:39 |
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| anteaya | this is our choice of where to send new contributors to understand our workflow: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html | 01:41 |
| anteaya | the wikipage can get long and many folks miss that they have to be a foundation member | 01:42 |
| anteaya | leading to errors about contact information preventing them from submitting patches | 01:43 |
| jlk | anteaya: thanks, that's indeed a better page. | 01:43 |
| sobersabre | hm... I'm trying to fill in the agreement, but it misbehaves with chrome. is firefox expected to work better? | 01:43 |
| anteaya | jlk: thanks for helping out | 01:44 |
| anteaya | sobersabre: can you describe how it misbehaves? | 01:44 |
| anteaya | I haven't come across anyone having an issue with the icla based on their browser choice | 01:44 |
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| sobersabre | I'm filling in the form, and press Submit, and I'm getting an error: Server Error | 01:45 |
| sobersabre | Cannot store contact information | 01:45 |
| sobersabre | anteaya: ^^^ | 01:45 |
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| anteaya | sobersabre: see the page I linked to | 01:46 |
| anteaya | read the part about foundation membership | 01:46 |
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| anteaya | follow the instructions closely about foundation membership | 01:47 |
| Cathy1989 | Hi there, openstack repo is bad because of a mistakeof uploading big file | 01:47 |
| Cathy1989 | can anyone help me sove this? | 01:47 |
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| anteaya | Cathy1989: well I don't fully understand yet what it is you are describing | 01:48 |
| anteaya | can you try again with some detail | 01:48 |
| anteaya | what openstack repo? | 01:48 |
| anteaya | what is the patch that uploaded a big file? | 01:48 |
| Cathy1989 | fuel-plugin-onos | 01:48 |
| anteaya | what do you mean by "the repo is bad" | 01:48 |
| Cathy1989 | codes from gerrit will use 172M | 01:49 |
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| anteaya | there have been a total of 5 commits to that repo | 01:49 |
| anteaya | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/fuel-plugin-onos/log/ | 01:49 |
| Cathy1989 | correct codes care merged in review.openstack | 01:49 |
| Cathy1989 | while in git-hub, nothing changes | 01:49 |
| anteaya | Cathy1989: I don't understand what you are trying to tell me | 01:49 |
| anteaya | are you merging code to this repo in github while it also is in gerrit? | 01:50 |
| jlk | I think he's saying a big file got put up as a review and "approved", but hasn't yet shown up in the git repository | 01:50 |
| jlk | he or she | 01:50 |
| jlk | sorry | 01:50 |
| jlk | Cathy1989: can you link to the problematic gerrit review? | 01:51 |
| anteaya | jlk: thanks | 01:51 |
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| anteaya | jlk: often it helps to have more eyes | 01:51 |
| anteaya | Cathy1989: don't talk to me in a pm | 01:53 |
| anteaya | talk to me in public | 01:53 |
| anteaya | I'm trying my best to help you | 01:53 |
| anteaya | please try to tell me what the problem is | 01:53 |
| anteaya | and jlk is trying to help as well | 01:54 |
| anteaya | I am looking at all the non-abandoned patches on this repo from today, I don't see any large ones | 01:54 |
| anteaya | there are a lot of abandoned patches on this project | 01:54 |
| Cathy1989 | right | 01:55 |
| Cathy1989 | i have revert the bad merge | 01:55 |
| anteaya | mwhahaha: so here is someone working on a fuel plugin that could use some guidance | 01:55 |
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| anteaya | Cathy1989: what is the url of the patch that merged that you want to revert? | 01:56 |
| Cathy1989 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255719/ | 01:56 |
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| anteaya | mwhahaha: having a workflow that includes abandoning a lot of patches is not a supported workflow | 01:56 |
| Cathy1989 | this url contains upload of jdk, which is big file of 166M | 01:57 |
| Cathy1989 | while in next merge ,https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259866/ | 01:57 |
| anteaya | Cathy1989: why are you including archived files in your repo? | 01:57 |
| Cathy1989 | this is a mistack | 01:58 |
| anteaya | okay so you alread know about reverting a patch, correct? | 01:58 |
| Cathy1989 | yes | 01:58 |
| Cathy1989 | codes have been reverted ,while history still contains the item of this merge | 01:59 |
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| anteaya | history will always contain the merge | 01:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for horizon keypair test error bug 1526791 https://review.openstack.org/260855 | 01:59 |
| anteaya | that is what git history is about | 01:59 |
| openstack | bug 1526791 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "test_keypair integration test consistently fails" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1526791 - Assigned to Timur Sufiev (tsufiev-x) | 01:59 |
| jlk | You'd have to do a git filter-branch in order to scrub it from history, which has a plethora of consequences | 02:00 |
| anteaya | why do you keep creating and abandoning patches on this repo? | 02:00 |
| anteaya | jlk: yeah, I'm not going to support that as a direction for this repo | 02:00 |
| sobersabre | anteaya: I looked at the user id I see when logged into gerrit and when logged into openstack.org site - they differ. | 02:00 |
| sobersabre | I think I allowed my old launchpad account to auth. so I always get to be that user.... | 02:00 |
| anteaya | sobersabre: the ids will differ, your emails have to match | 02:01 |
| sobersabre | anteaya: oh, ok. | 02:01 |
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| Cathy1989 | i have used git filter-branch and head has been rewrite from the log and git gc, nothing changes | 02:01 |
| anteaya | sobersabre: now if you have two different gerrit accounts that is a separate issue | 02:01 |
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| jlk | Cathy1989: the upstream repository would have to be filtered, not your downstream one. | 02:02 |
| Cathy1989 | i do in the downstream and how do i make this change valid for the upstream | 02:03 |
| anteaya | Cathy1989: you don't | 02:03 |
| anteaya | that is the beauty of using git | 02:03 |
| jlk | it would change history and break a number of things. It's not advised. | 02:03 |
| anteaya | git keeps the history | 02:03 |
| anteaya | jlk: exactly | 02:03 |
| anteaya | Cathy1989: you revert the code you don't want and continue development | 02:03 |
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| anteaya | and please stop creating and deleting patches | 02:04 |
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| anteaya | sorry abandoning patches | 02:04 |
| anteaya | your repo has more abandoned patches associated with it than anything else | 02:04 |
| anteaya | please work with the fuel folks to understand openstack workflow | 02:05 |
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| anteaya | and ask them questions so you can learn | 02:05 |
| anteaya | Cathy1989: here is a good place to begin: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html | 02:05 |
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| Cathy1989 | i will be more careful, while now how can i fix this problem. can you help rebuild the repo? | 02:06 |
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| anteaya | Cathy1989: what do you mean? | 02:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for horizon keypair test error bug 1526791 https://review.openstack.org/260855 | 02:07 |
| openstack | bug 1526791 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "test_keypair integration test consistently fails" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1526791 - Assigned to Timur Sufiev (tsufiev-x) | 02:07 |
| anteaya | what is the harm of having a git history that is accurate? | 02:07 |
| anteaya | you merged code, you revert code | 02:07 |
| anteaya | simple | 02:07 |
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| jlk | I assume they don't want to have every new clone require 160+ megs of download | 02:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Max V.K. proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: authorization matrix: more authorizations https://review.openstack.org/260857 | 02:07 |
| Cathy1989 | because everytime downloading codes will take a long time | 02:08 |
| Cathy1989 | and correct codes are not metged into git-hub | 02:08 |
| anteaya | Cathy1989: well it is late at night for me just getting ready to go on a break for the holidays | 02:08 |
| sobersabre | anteaya: argh, chrome is messed up, but I did post my patch to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260857/ | 02:08 |
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| jlk | sobersabre: nice branch name... | 02:09 |
| anteaya | Cathy1989: why do you keep referencing github? | 02:09 |
| anteaya | Cathy1989: are you merging code separately on github? | 02:09 |
| sobersabre | jlk: I renamed it, just in case somebody has issues with tissue | 02:10 |
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| jlk | lol | 02:10 |
| anteaya | I'm not a fan of swearing | 02:10 |
| anteaya | you can add that as a datapoint sobersabre | 02:10 |
| sobersabre | anteaya: who was swearing? | 02:10 |
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| Cathy1989 | i mean review openstack say that codes have merged,while the corresponding repo are not the latest codes | 02:10 |
| anteaya | I would consider that in the same category | 02:11 |
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| anteaya | Cathy1989: which corresponding repo? | 02:11 |
| Cathy1989 | https://github.com/openstack/fuel-plugin-onos | 02:11 |
| anteaya | Cathy1989: can you start adding links to resources, thank you | 02:11 |
| jlk | Cathy1989: please link to the review that has merged that you don't see in the repository. | 02:12 |
| sobersabre | now I probably need reviewers. is this the right place to seek reviewers of my patch? | 02:12 |
| Cathy1989 | this usr https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259866/ | 02:12 |
| docaedo | Cathy1989: FYI a fresh "git clone" on fuel-plugin-onos is only 1.4mb | 02:12 |
| Cathy1989 | says merged | 02:12 |
| anteaya | docaedo: thank you | 02:12 |
| anteaya | docaedo: where did you clone from? | 02:12 |
| Cathy1989 | git clone https://review.openstack.org/openstack/fuel-plugin-onos | 02:13 |
| anteaya | Cathy1989: and the log differs between git.openstack.org and github on that repo | 02:13 |
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| anteaya | Cathy1989: don't clone from review please, clone from git.openstack.org | 02:13 |
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| Cathy1989 | review says new codes have been merged, while openstack github repo are not the latest | 02:14 |
| anteaya | Cathy1989: oh I see what you are saying, your clone from review.openstack.org and your clone from github differ in their history | 02:14 |
| anteaya | Cathy1989: well github probably has a file limit on their end, and never took any commits after the second two | 02:15 |
| anteaya | https://github.com/openstack/fuel-plugin-onos/commits/master | 02:15 |
| docaedo | anteaya: actually I cloned from github .. turns out cloning from git.o.o results in a much larger clone | 02:15 |
| jlk | yeah, github stopped getting new stuff. | 02:16 |
| anteaya | docaedo: thanks I appreciate you taking the time to test the difference | 02:16 |
| sobersabre | any maintainers of jenkins-job-buidler around now? | 02:16 |
| docaedo | 167mb when cloned from git.o.o | 02:16 |
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| anteaya | yay github, they got one right | 02:16 |
| anteaya | jlk: thanks for your help, I appreciate it | 02:16 |
| jlk | np | 02:16 |
| jlk | Honestly looks like this exposes a edge case bug in the review setup. | 02:16 |
| anteaya | Cathy1989: now I understand the problem | 02:16 |
| anteaya | jlk: I agree | 02:16 |
| docaedo | :) That was the info I was hoping would help here | 02:17 |
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| anteaya | Cathy1989: the problem is that the size of teh clone is unwieldy as jlk assessed earlier | 02:17 |
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| anteaya | docaedo: and it does, thank you | 02:17 |
| anteaya | Cathy1989: I don't know how to fix the problem, the folks who do are probably all offline for the evening | 02:18 |
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| anteaya | Cathy1989: try again at the end of your day and some of them may start to be awake at that time, I don't know it depends on how late you stay up | 02:18 |
| anteaya | speaking of which it is time for me to have a walk | 02:18 |
| anteaya | g'night | 02:18 |
| Cathy1989 | you can give the name and i will see | 02:19 |
| fungi | if it helps, the openstack-manuals repo has a larger set of deleted files than that in their git history (bundled pdf renders of documents if memory serves) | 02:19 |
| fungi | something like 450mb in size now | 02:19 |
| asselin__ | https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/Documentation/project-configuration.html#_maximum_git_object_size_limit | 02:19 |
| fungi | asselin__: yeah, that's something we might want to discuss setting as a sanity check | 02:20 |
| jesusaurus | asselin__: ++ | 02:20 |
| Cathy1989 | anteaya, can you offer me the name who can fix this problem? | 02:21 |
| fungi | we have 9 (i think i've counted correctly) infrastructure root sysadmins with gerrit administrator access who could push a modified version of your git repository history back into gerrit, though this is an unprecedented request and we should probably discuss the potential impact as a group | 02:23 |
| nibalizer | i definitely wouldn't feel comfortable doing that without some discussion first | 02:25 |
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| fungi | as i understand it, 1. someone proposed a change to that repo containing a "very large" file; 2. someone approved that change; 3. the "very large" file was deleted in a subsequent change; 4. users are still taxed by retrieving that file as part of the master branch git history | 02:25 |
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| Cathy1989 | correct | 02:25 |
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| fungi | so what is being requested is help in fabricating a git history which omits this file, and then overwriting the history in gerrit with that fabrication (noting that the file was part of a change pushed through gerrit, so the commit being undone is still referenced as a reviewed change) | 02:26 |
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| Cathy1989 | in addition, codes after the bad merge are not really merged | 02:26 |
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| fungi | as in you don't see them when cloning/pulling the repository? only when retrieving from github, or also from git.openstack.org? | 02:28 |
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| fungi | i would not be surprised if github is refusing to acknowledge push replication from gerrit of the change with the large file, and so also can't accept any commits descended from that one | 02:29 |
| Cathy1989 | this is my problem | 02:29 |
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| asselin__ | yeah, github has limits. too bad gitlab doesn't (as far as I could tell) | 02:29 |
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| nibalizer | what does gitlab have to do with it? | 02:30 |
| asselin__ | well..they're related and I wished we can limit it in gitlab for similar reasons as discussed here ^^ | 02:31 |
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| asselin__ | we have some people that uploaded 500MB - 1GB images to gitlab | 02:31 |
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| nibalizer | yikes | 02:31 |
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| fungi | so anyway, notable that we can (in theory) configure gerrit to prevent "this" in the future (as long as we can define the threshold between "a very large normal commit" and "a commit which is too large and should be rejected") | 02:33 |
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| jlk | fungi: there is a separate issue | 02:36 |
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| jlk | fungi: the "very large file" that got reviewed and merged did not get mirrored over to github. Github hasn't taken any new updates from the repo since just before that "very large file" commit. | 02:36 |
| jlk | so now github lags git.openstack.org | 02:37 |
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| fungi | yes, so that' | 02:37 |
| fungi | s what i surmised above | 02:37 |
| jlk | ah, I see that now. | 02:37 |
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| fungi | basically github has a commit size limit that we don't, so we're tasked with deciding whether we adjust our system to meet their expectations, or acknowledge that there are things we'll accept which we can't replicat eto github | 02:38 |
| mwhahaha | Is the max size thing configurable pre repo? | 02:39 |
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| fungi | and also, whether someone has available time to work with Cathy1989 on creating a filtered version of the repository in question and pushing that into gerrit (assuming that is even desirable) | 02:39 |
| jesusaurus | mwhahaha: in gerrit? yes, it is set in the acl file | 02:40 |
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| asselin__ | mwhahaha, https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/Documentation/config-gerrit.html#receive.maxObjectSizeLimit | 02:40 |
| fungi | right, if we want to prevent this in the future we (theoretically, according to the gerrit docs) can, though that doesn't alter the current situation | 02:41 |
| * asselin__ wishes everyone a nice holiday break and happy new year. I'll be off and on, mostly offline. | 02:41 | |
| mwhahaha | Based on what I saw in the infra meeting logs, there was talk about wanting to move the fuel plugin repos so I'm not sure we should invest effort fixing it | 02:42 |
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| mwhahaha | Since the source of truth is git.o.o, perhaps Cathy1989 can just use that for the time being? | 02:43 |
| fungi | the only takeaway i had from the meeting was that we wanted some clearer picture from the fuel project-team as to what their ecosystem looks like, and possibly assistance with reviewing project-config changes noting the significant increase posed by fuel's plugins/extensions | 02:43 |
| fungi | but yes, our official git remote urls are git.openstack.org, not github.com, which is why i asked whether the former also exhibit the same lag | 02:44 |
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| mwhahaha | Cathy1989: is there a problem leveraging the git.openstack.org version of the repo? | 02:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Max V.K. proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: authorization matrix: more authorizations https://review.openstack.org/260857 | 02:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for baremetal scenario test timeout bug 1528732 https://review.openstack.org/260863 | 02:47 |
| openstack | bug 1528732 in Ironic "test_baremetal_server_ops times out waiting to terminate instance" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1528732 | 02:47 |
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| Cathy1989 | mwhahaha: yes, they are not the same version | 02:49 |
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| mwhahaha | Git.openstack.org is the source of truth | 02:49 |
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| mwhahaha | Is there something preventing you from using that for your needs? | 02:51 |
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| Cathy1989 | mwhahaha: i need the latest version in github while it't not | 02:55 |
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| Cathy1989 | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/fuel-plugin-onos/refs/ from this codes have been changed | 02:56 |
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| mwhahaha | Why do you need it on github is what I'm trying to understand | 02:56 |
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| nibalizer | well if the other 700 repos are syncing and this one isn't, that is a bug | 02:57 |
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| nibalizer | someone eventually will pull their hair out for a while beofre they figure that out | 02:57 |
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| notmorgan | fungi: really github has a commit size limit?! | 02:58 |
| notmorgan | fungi: *boggle* | 02:58 |
| mwhahaha | This is true but I'm trying to figure out if this is a true blocker for something that needs an immediate fix it something that can be discussed and fixed after the holidays | 02:58 |
| Cathy1989 | because there's a mistake of merging codes with big file, even this has been reverted, after that, no codes are synchronous | 02:59 |
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| mwhahaha | Stupid phone, ...fix or if it is something... | 03:01 |
| Cathy1989 | can anyone help me rebuild the repo because the fuel project is emergency | 03:01 |
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| mwhahaha | I'm not understanding why this is an emergency | 03:02 |
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| Cathy1989 | codes are needed to use | 03:02 |
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| docaedo | Is this impacting all of fuel, or just this single plugin? | 03:03 |
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| Cathy1989 | just this single plugin | 03:03 |
| mwhahaha | Then use the git.openstack.org repo | 03:03 |
| Cathy1989 | the git.openstack.org repo can't update | 03:03 |
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| mwhahaha | I thought the git.openstack.org repo was up to date | 03:04 |
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| Cathy1989 | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/fuel-plugin-onos/refs/ | 03:05 |
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| Cathy1989 | it says, 41 hours, new codes are merged | 03:05 |
| Cathy1989 | https://github.com/openstack/fuel-plugin-onos | 03:05 |
| Cathy1989 | the latest are a month ago | 03:05 |
| mwhahaha | you can just clone from https://git.openstack.org/openstack/fuel-plugin-onos | 03:06 |
| mwhahaha | which master is from 42 hours ago | 03:06 |
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| mwhahaha | the point is whatever you're using that is pulling from github, update it to use git.openstack.org | 03:07 |
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| mwhahaha | and unblock yourself | 03:07 |
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| nibalizer | Cathy1989: github not syncing should only be a minor nusiance | 03:09 |
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| nibalizer | it shouldn't break any automation | 03:09 |
| nibalizer | because the github repos aren't authoritative, git.openstack.org is the only correct place to get code from | 03:10 |
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| Cathy1989 | at this point, i still need to downlowd codes with history of big file | 03:12 |
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| nibalizer | yes | 03:13 |
| Cathy1989 | if i use a different branch, it is the same. | 03:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for baremetal scenario test timeout bug 1528732 https://review.openstack.org/260863 | 03:17 |
| openstack | bug 1528732 in Ironic "test_baremetal_server_ops times out waiting to terminate instance" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1528732 | 03:17 |
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| Cathy1989 | i need to know if there's a way to make the repo "slim" | 03:18 |
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| docaedo | Cathy1989: What I've gathered is that it is possible to do that, but it's not been done before, and the infra folks are uncomfortable taking that unprecedented step on the eve of a holiday without any broader discussion | 03:19 |
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| Cathy1989 | sorry that i am too anxious to solve this. wuwenbin2@huawei.com is my email, and if it is convenience, can you offer me you email for futher help or if any possible solution, you can just send emails. | 03:23 |
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| nibalizer | Cathy1989: you can send an email to the infra mailing list | 03:24 |
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| docaedo | Cathy1989: I think the best way to move this forward would be to write up the whole situation in email .. ah haha, like nibalizer just said :) | 03:24 |
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| Cathy1989 | ok, i know. Thanks, merry chrismas. | 03:26 |
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| flip214 | so, what's the process to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260193/ deployed to the ci-watch.tintri.com page? The JS that is served from there is still the old version... | 05:59 |
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| nibalizer | im not sure | 06:17 |
| nibalizer | i'm a bit suprised that isn't run as an infra service | 06:17 |
| nibalizer | maybe there is some backstory there that I do not understand | 06:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/260895 | 06:37 |
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| flip214 | This poll (OpenStack N Release Naming) has not yet been ended by its supervisor, Monty Taylor (mordred@inaugust.com). The poll has been announced to end 2015-12-22 23:59:59 UTC. | 07:07 |
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| flip214 | mordred: ^^ ? | 07:14 |
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| AJaeger | good morning! Could I get a review of my linters changes, please? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:linters+status:open | 08:00 |
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| gampel1 | Hi everyone, our bi-weekly meeting for smaug, was not logged yesterday on openstack-meeting on 14 UTC , is there a problem ? or maybe we did not set it up correctly | 08:28 |
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| gampel1 | I saved the log file is there a way to upload it to http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/smaug/ | 08:31 |
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| AJaeger | gampel1: check http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-meeting/%23openstack-meeting.2015-12-22.log.html#t2015-12-22T14:00:43 | 08:34 |
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| AJaeger | Do you see that you started your meeting with a space as first character? | 08:34 |
| AJaeger | " #startmeeting smaug" | 08:34 |
| AJaeger | That breaks the bot | 08:34 |
| AJaeger | gampel1: have a look at the senlin meeting an hour earlier: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-meeting/%23openstack-meeting.2015-12-22.log.html#t2015-12-22T13:00:35 | 08:35 |
| AJaeger | If you give the proper command, you get some results back - and not getting them in your case should have told you directly that something is wrong... | 08:35 |
| AJaeger | Will that help you for the next time? | 08:35 |
| AJaeger | Regarding uploading: One of the infra roots might be able to help with that later... | 08:36 |
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| gampel1 | AJaeger: i am not sue i understand i used the #Â startmeeting smaug | 08:36 |
| AJaeger | gampel1: you said: "<space>#startmeeting smaug | 08:37 |
| AJaeger | gampel1: the very first character needs to be the # | 08:37 |
| AJaeger | compare the 13:00 and 14:00 lines | 08:37 |
| gampel1 | AJaeger: Ok got it | 08:38 |
| gampel1 | AJaeger: thanks | 08:39 |
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| AJaeger | yolanda: regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260710 - we first need to add the new tox environment, change project-config, then remove pep8... | 08:41 |
| yolanda | AJaeger makes sense | 08:41 |
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| AJaeger | yolanda: same in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260192/ | 08:42 |
| yolanda | i didn't know if that was considered or not, so i'll change my vote | 08:42 |
| AJaeger | yolanda: Once all changes are in, I send the pep8 removal changes - just didn't want to have an even larger change... | 08:43 |
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| AJaeger | yolanda: same here https://review.openstack.org/260405 | 08:43 |
| AJaeger | please revisit all three... | 08:43 |
| yolanda | sure | 08:43 |
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| AJaeger | thanks, yolanda ! | 08:45 |
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| AJaeger | Could you to +A https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260710/ as well, please? | 08:45 |
| AJaeger | or do you want to wait for something, yolanda ? | 08:46 |
| yolanda | no, it's ok | 08:46 |
| yolanda | AJaeger, i won't be long here to babysit, you will be working? | 08:47 |
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| AJaeger | I'll be around a bit, thanks | 08:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config-example: Use linters tox environment https://review.openstack.org/260710 | 08:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Remove pep8/bashate targets https://review.openstack.org/260916 | 08:58 |
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| evgenyl | Good morning, I have a patch to enable IRC bots for the channel (system-config) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255804/ , I was said, that the patch should be merged when there are no IRC meetings, is there anything I can help with to make it happen? Any information you can provide me on the topic would be greatly appreciated. | 09:01 |
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| AJaeger | evgenyl: check the global calendar at eavesdrop.openstack.org, there're currently meetings scheduled | 09:03 |
| AJaeger | evgenyl: the infra folks will add your change when there's really no meeting going on - and none in the next two hours | 09:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove pep8/bashate targets https://review.openstack.org/260917 | 09:07 |
| yolanda | evgenyl, AJaeger, i cannot approve the change now because it needs another +2, sorry | 09:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config-example: Remove pep8 target https://review.openstack.org/260919 | 09:10 |
| AJaeger | yolanda: my pep8 removals are on its way ^ | 09:10 |
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| AJaeger | yolanda: indeed, that's another reason | 09:11 |
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| evgenyl | SergeyLukjanov: hi, could you please consider reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255804/ , we need one more +2 there, so it can be timely merged by one of the cores when there are no meetings. | 09:23 |
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| EmilienM | mtreinish: ^ | 09:35 |
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| AJaeger | EmilienM: the jobs are still non-voting | 09:38 |
| EmilienM | AJaeger: perfect | 09:38 |
| EmilienM | we want it non-voting now | 09:38 |
| EmilienM | we just want to run them in gate | 09:38 |
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| AJaeger | I will -2 a non-voting gate | 09:39 |
| EmilienM | oh, I did not know that | 09:39 |
| AJaeger | gate jobs have to be voting | 09:39 |
| EmilienM | we wanted to have our jobs on http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/ | 09:39 |
| AJaeger | otherwise we do not need to run them | 09:39 |
| EmilienM | I see | 09:40 |
| EmilienM | AJaeger: ok, let me abandon the patch then, we need more work to make them voting. | 09:40 |
| AJaeger | we gate so that only changes go in that pass, | 09:40 |
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| AJaeger | EmilienM: perhaps get a first one of them voting? | 09:40 |
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| EmilienM | AJaeger: they fail quite often because of upstream packaging issue | 09:41 |
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| EmilienM | openstack upstream packaging is not very stable (better lately but not 100% reliable) | 09:42 |
| EmilienM | that's the main reason why these jobs do not vote yet | 09:42 |
| AJaeger | ;( | 09:42 |
| EmilienM | I can't set them voting now, our CI wil be broken all the time and you'll hear from me every day to make them non-voting | 09:42 |
| AJaeger | indeed that wouldn't be fun for either of us | 09:43 |
| EmilienM | so I'm going to engage a discussion with my group to find a solution | 09:43 |
| EmilienM | thanks for your thought, I did not know that information | 09:43 |
| AJaeger | yw | 09:43 |
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| AJaeger | mordred: yolanda rebased 198417 and I fixed the testsuite - is this ready to merge now or should it be WIP? ^ | 13:03 |
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| AJaeger | dhellmann: you need the change above first ^ | 14:30 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger : thanks, looking | 14:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/release-tools: Do not fail with Tox 2.3.1 https://review.openstack.org/261000 | 14:33 |
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| phschwartz | Does anyone know if the midcycle infra meetup has been setup | 15:01 |
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| AJaeger | phschwartz: yes, it has - didn't you see the mail on the infra list? | 15:08 |
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| AJaeger | phschwartz: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2015-December/003554.html | 15:09 |
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| fungi | also multiple announcements in our weekly meetings | 15:23 |
| fungi | and it's on the sprints page along with other teams' mid-cycles | 15:24 |
| phschwartz | fungi: I have missed the weekly meetings for the past 2 weeks. Wife was in the hospital so it threw everything for a loop. | 15:24 |
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| fungi | phschwartz: oh! hope she's improving | 15:24 |
| phschwartz | fungi: She is, it is pregnancy related, really extreme morning sickness | 15:24 |
| fungi | wow, that can't be any fun | 15:25 |
| phschwartz | fungi: no, she has had it really really rough | 15:25 |
| AJaeger | phschwartz: all the best for her! | 15:25 |
| phschwartz | Just started the second trimester so hoping things start to calm down | 15:25 |
| fungi | anyway, to my point, if there are more visible places we should mention something like a mid-cycle sprint, please suggest it | 15:26 |
| phschwartz | fungi: I personally found it right before AJaeger had shared the mailing list link via the spirnts page. | 15:26 |
| fungi | i do want to make sure everyone who intends to help gets the info | 15:26 |
| phschwartz | AJaeger: but ty for sharing the list | 15:26 |
| AJaeger | fungi, something for the weekly developer newsletter? | 15:26 |
| AJaeger | fungi: twitter;) blogpost... | 15:27 |
| fungi | AJaeger: great idea. i don't recall if thingee's included it in the newsletter yet | 15:27 |
| jroll | there's always https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints#Mitaka_sprints too | 15:27 |
| fungi | jroll: hopefully it's already there? | 15:27 |
| jroll | tis | 15:27 |
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| fungi | awesome | 15:28 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, did you also get lost looking for bashate failures in your recent change for the package install script? What do you think of silencing the long lines like in 260966 and 260967? | 15:32 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: agree about 260967. i like shorter lines as much as the next person (probably a lot more) but it took me a while to find the violation causing a -1 in one of my changes because of having to wade through all those long line warnings | 15:32 |
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| fungi | was just looking at that since you mentioned it in scrollback too | 15:32 |
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| AJaeger | ah ;) | 15:33 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, I fixed the easy problems with 260966 but then decided fixing the here documents is not worth it | 15:33 |
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| fungi | yep, i'm going through 260966 just to make sure everything looks safe | 15:38 |
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| fungi | i don't see any errors introduced, so probably fine | 15:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Wrap some overly long lines https://review.openstack.org/260966 | 15:52 |
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| anteaya | nibalizer: ciwatch is aiming to be hosted as an infra service, there is a spec up in review to do exactly that | 15:54 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: sorry it is approved, here it is: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/deploy-ci-dashboard.html | 15:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Basic validation for gerritbot/channels.yaml https://review.openstack.org/261046 | 16:27 |
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| AJaeger | yolanda: the change above would have caught the broken openstack-dev setup from Monday | 16:28 |
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| fungi | speaking of catching broken things, https://review.openstack.org/1260717 makes the bindep fallback test job actually fail now when there's an incorrect package name for the platform where it's run | 16:39 |
| fungi | once that lands and propagates, the job will fail on the etcd package entry in the fallback list | 16:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/diskimage-builder: Document byte-to-inode ratio https://review.openstack.org/258195 | 16:40 |
| fungi | (also makes bindep-based jobs fail early if the requested packages can't be installed) | 16:40 |
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| nibalizer | anteaya: thanks | 16:43 |
| pabelanger | fungi: odd, I get The page you requested was not found, or you do not have permission to view this page. | 16:45 |
| pabelanger | when I access that URL | 16:45 |
| pabelanger | fungi: an logged in | 16:46 |
| pabelanger | review 1260717 | 16:46 |
| fungi | oh, hah | 16:47 |
| fungi | https://review.openstack.org/260717 | 16:47 |
| pabelanger | Ha ha | 16:47 |
| fungi | dunno how i ended up with a 1 in there | 16:47 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: welcome | 16:47 |
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| anteaya | fungi: you are predicting the future again | 16:48 |
| fungi | oh, i see, i should be careful when doing a word highlight at the edge of my screen. it wrapped the word match to the end of the previous line | 16:49 |
| fungi | well, edge of my terminal | 16:49 |
| AJaeger | fungi, didn't we remove etcd from the fallback list? | 16:50 |
| dmsimard | hi openstack-infra, quick question - how much RAM do nodes typically have for gate jobs/integration tests ? | 16:50 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: I'll wait for your review before I vote | 16:50 |
| fungi | AJaeger: i think there's a change to do that which hasn't merged yet, but it provided a convenient existing failure to test | 16:50 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: it's possible it was removed so recently that it hadn't propagated to the fallback list on our worker images yet, which is where i was testing | 16:51 |
| anteaya | dmsimard: we request 8G RAM from all our hosts donating resources: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/contribute-cloud.html | 16:51 |
| AJaeger | fungi, it was reverted on Saturday AFAIR | 16:51 |
| dmsimard | anteaya: thanks. | 16:52 |
| anteaya | dmsimard: welcome | 16:52 |
| fungi | AJaeger: the puppet change in system-config or the bindep fallback change in project-config? | 16:52 |
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| fungi | separate places, and the urgent revert was the one for system-config | 16:52 |
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| anteaya | pabelanger: with the understanding that you are reviewing 260717 | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Basic validation for gerritbot/channels.yaml https://review.openstack.org/261046 | 16:53 |
| fungi | dmsimard: though as has come to light recently, we only have swap devices active on workers in some providers, and this apparently has an impact on jobs which run at or near the memory threshold | 16:54 |
| AJaeger | fungi, both | 16:54 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: yeah, so chances are the ubuntu-trusty image the node i held was booted from hadn't been updated successfully since that merged | 16:55 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, yep | 16:55 |
| * fungi checks freshness of ubuntu-trusty diskimages | 16:55 | |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Separate concerns in pypi_mirror.pp https://review.openstack.org/253236 | 16:55 |
| AJaeger | https://review.openstack.org/260420 is a change for system-config to use linters as target -and https://review.openstack.org/260405 a corresponding one for project-config if any of you wants to review something a small change, please. | 16:56 |
| dmsimard | fungi: good info. I guess I can manage to create a swapfile to handle that. | 16:56 |
| dmsimard | fungi: I've benched a job around 10GB of RAM which is slightly over the ceiling - I could split it but it'd be far less efficient imo. I'll do some testing to see if it makes sense to swap over 8GB. | 16:57 |
| fungi | AJaeger: yeah, we haven't successfully uploaded an ubuntu-trusty diskimage in rackspace in 4 days | 16:57 |
| AJaeger | ;( | 16:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Expose webapp listen_address and port https://review.openstack.org/261052 | 16:58 |
| fungi | dmsimard: right, i've been thinking about adding swapfiles on the rootfs for regions where we don't have a separate ephemeral disk, and perhaps making sure they all have a swap device of equivalent size | 16:58 |
| fungi | though still needs more discussion | 16:59 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: we have known poor performance trying to upload glance images to rackspace swift, so this is unsurprising | 16:59 |
| AJaeger | sad ;( | 17:00 |
| fungi | bluebox, hpcloud and ovh look reasonably up to date on ubuntu-trusty image uploads, internap is lagging but that may still be somewhat manual, not sure | 17:00 |
| dmsimard | fungi: If there's swap, how much of it is there ? 4GB ? | 17:01 |
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| fungi | dmsimard: checking now | 17:01 |
| dmsimard | if there's not enough, I could just set the job to create a swapfile regardless of state | 17:01 |
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| clarkb | fungi AJaeger glance image uploads break in rax once our token expires | 17:02 |
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| clarkb | need shade releade and nodepoold restart for fix,also need oscc release to fix region thing | 17:03 |
| clarkb | should be 8GB swap | 17:03 |
| fungi | dmsimard: clarkb: yep, looks like devstack-gate opportunistically creates a 8gb swap partition on the ephemeral disk if there is one | 17:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Remove webob requirements cap https://review.openstack.org/261055 | 17:04 |
| fungi | confirmed on nodes in use in both rackspace and hpcloud | 17:04 |
| fungi | so shouldn't in theory be too hard to create a 8gb sparse file on the rootfs, mkswap that, append it to fstab and swapon | 17:05 |
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| fungi | or non-sparse if we're worried about jobs using a lot of disk competing with extension of that swapfile | 17:07 |
| clarkb | I am still a fan of using 1GB VM flavors and not swapping at all(at least withthat magnum job) | 17:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Travis McPeak proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adding voting Bandit on Bandit gate https://review.openstack.org/260135 | 17:08 |
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| dmsimard | fungi: thanks - so do you want the swap config upstream then ? If you point me at the right place I can probably take care of it | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | AJaeger: https://review.openstack.org/260135 — I'm really happy with this way of doing it. It should make it clear and easy for projects to adopt Bandit checks of their own | 17:10 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: I have to assume that you are not reviewing 260717 and will move on | 17:10 |
| dmsimard | (by upstream I mean in the pre-config of the gate nodes versus "downstream" in a job shell execution) | 17:10 |
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| fungi | dmsimard: _i_ think it probably makes sense to just add it to devstack-gate, yeah, though others may disagree | 17:11 |
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| jeblair | i think there's some swap stuff in d-g already? | 17:12 |
| fungi | given that it's caught at least one project off guard discovering that their job hits oom condition in ovh (where we don't have ephemeral disk) | 17:12 |
| fungi | jeblair: yep, talking about extending that to create a swapfile on the rootfs if no ephemeral disk is available | 17:12 |
| jeblair | ya, makes sense | 17:12 |
| pabelanger | anteaya: Ya, sorry. Wasn't reviewing. Just curious of the patch | 17:12 |
| pabelanger | head deep into packaging | 17:13 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: okay sorry, wanted to give you space to offer an opinion if you wanted, not just approve it out from under you | 17:13 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: happy packaging | 17:13 |
| fungi | i'm mostly undecided between sparse or non-sparse swapfile. given that in ovh we not only don't have ephemeral disk but also the rootfs is a meager 80gb so taking 10% of that for a preallocated swapfile is pretty significant | 17:13 |
| fungi | so sparse is attractive to keep available space on the filesystem if swap ends up not being needed | 17:14 |
| lifeless | what about no swapfile ? | 17:15 |
| fungi | but could still end in some nastiness if you fill more than 90% of the rootfs and then try to allocate a bunch of memory which ends in stuff getting paged out | 17:15 |
| fungi | lifeless: you mean also get rid of swap partitions on the platforms where we have an ephemeral disk available to put them in? some jobs tended to perform better if they could page a few things out. maybe fiddling with kernel swappiness a bit could also make that less of a problem too | 17:16 |
| dmsimard | swap on disk is already slow enough, on a sparsefile it must be pretty darn slow though I've never actually tried it - I always pre allocated my swap files | 17:16 |
| AJaeger | tmcpeak: this won't build as is, add it the linters job template first to jenkins/jobs/python-jobs.yaml | 17:17 |
| fungi | sparse swapfiles are slow when paging out, not really any slower than preallocated when swapping back in though | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Make install-distro-packages.sh more robust https://review.openstack.org/260717 | 17:17 |
| fungi | and only slow the first time they're written into significantly, since that space ends up indefinitely allocated to swap from that point on | 17:17 |
| dmsimard | fungi: ok, I can submit something for review to discuss. Just need 1) This sounds like the right place to put it. Is it ? https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/functions.sh#L516 2) What's the condition we want to check, is it "if there is an ephemeral disk" or "if there is a swap partition" ? | 17:20 |
| fungi | also, swapfiles aren't _really_ significantly slower than swap partitions, since the kernel optimizes the writes/reads through to the underlying device anyway (remember it's just one file, so the filesystem isn't especially part of the picture) | 17:20 |
| AJaeger | tmcpeak: are you still around? | 17:21 |
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| pabelanger | codesearch.o.o down for maintenance | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | AJaeger: yep, sorry, just stepped back in | 17:21 |
| pabelanger | (missing question mark) | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | reading backscroll | 17:21 |
| AJaeger | tmcpeak: no worries, just wanted to know whether you know what to do before I step out ;) | 17:21 |
| fungi | dmsimard: probably in fix_disk_layout() where the swap partitions are being created | 17:22 |
| lifeless | fungi: so specifically, AIUI we disable a chunk of memory | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | AJaeger: sorry, I'm confused | 17:22 |
| dmsimard | fungi: ty. | 17:22 |
| lifeless | fungi: to make all systems look the same, and because of the weird cpu/disk/ratios the pre-set flavours around have | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | why should I need to touch 'python-jobs' ? | 17:23 |
| fungi | lifeless: only in hpcloud, and we hope to stop doing that as soon as hpcloud is out of the picture | 17:23 |
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| jeblair | pabelanger: wfm | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | tmcpeak: ahh ok, I think I see | 17:23 |
| lifeless | fungi: ah, so where I was going was just using the extra memory -after all, thats what swap is, and having things be faster. | 17:23 |
| fungi | lifeless: because it's fiddly with kernel memory allocation on virtual machines in some hypervisors, as we've discovered | 17:23 |
| pabelanger | jeblair: Ha, somebody must have just finished :) | 17:23 |
| AJaeger | tmcpeak: you need to declare the job first | 17:23 |
| fungi | anyway, i need to go run some lunch errands, back in a little while | 17:23 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: we've seen lots of "it's down - no it's back up" with hound | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | AJaeger: right ok, so this is a one time setup thing, not to do with Bandit | 17:24 |
| AJaeger | adding it to python-jobs make it available for everybody to pick up on | 17:24 |
| AJaeger | tmcpeak: yes, correct | 17:24 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: we haven't figured out what's going on yet | 17:24 |
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| anteaya | pabelanger: codesearch.o.o is up for me | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | AJaeger: I'm confused on the difference between that and what you added here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260215/2/zuul/layout.yaml | 17:25 |
| anteaya | fungi: enjoy | 17:25 |
| pabelanger | jeblair: I assume we are using proxy_pass or something. Will poke around the puppet manifest | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | ahh ok, got it | 17:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Travis McPeak proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adding the jobs listing with the linters target https://review.openstack.org/261061 | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | AJaeger: ^ | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | hmm | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | that might not be right | 17:28 |
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| tmcpeak | nope, looks good to me :D final answer | 17:29 |
| * tmcpeak gets confused by the dark arts of infra | 17:29 | |
| zaro | morning | 17:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Travis McPeak proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adding voting Bandit on Bandit gate https://review.openstack.org/260135 | 17:30 |
| pabelanger | jeblair: so https://github.com/openstack-infra/system-config/blob/master/modules/openstack_project/manifests/codesearch.pp#L22 seems to run every time. Which then notifies the hound service. I suspect that is causing the bounce | 17:30 |
| pabelanger | but, unsure why it needs to run ever time | 17:30 |
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| anteaya | morning zaro | 17:32 |
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| jeblair | pabelanger: good point, it should probably subscribe to teh prject config repo | 17:33 |
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| AJaeger | tmcpeak: jenkins and zuul are independent... | 17:36 |
| AJaeger | tmcpeak: let's do it differently - less changes for projects. Do you mind if I patch 260135? | 17:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Subscribe to project_config for create-hound-config https://review.openstack.org/261065 | 17:41 |
| notmorgan | zaro: good morning :) | 17:41 |
| krotscheck | Woot, my patch did nothing! | 17:41 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Thanks for that review :) | 17:41 |
| notmorgan | krotscheck: you might be too excited about that ;) | 17:42 |
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| krotscheck | notmorgan: Patches that separate concerns for greater extensibility later should do nothing :) | 17:42 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: well at least you didn't break anything | 17:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adding voting Bandit on Bandit gate https://review.openstack.org/260135 | 17:42 |
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| AJaeger | tmcpeak: ^ - let's abandon 261061 | 17:42 |
| notmorgan | krotscheck: but... you're so excited! it's too early in the morning for such excitemnet | 17:42 |
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| notmorgan | actually it's not. | 17:43 |
| * notmorgan just needs to drink coffee | 17:43 | |
| krotscheck | notmorgan: I've been up since 4 | 17:43 |
| krotscheck | (PST) | 17:43 |
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| tmcpeak | AJaeger: sounds good | 17:46 |
| notmorgan | krotscheck: i've been up since ~4:30 | 17:46 |
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| tmcpeak | AJaeger: abandoned | 17:47 |
| tmcpeak | AJaeger: I don't see how that can work | 17:48 |
| AJaeger | tmcpeak: jenkins and zuul are completely independent. So we declare the jobs that can run in jenkins and then "call" the jobs in zuul. | 17:48 |
| AJaeger | The templates are not necessarily completely the same | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | AJaeger: ok, then how does adding this: 'gate-{name}-linters' to 'python-jobs' help us? | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | we aren't calling 'python-jobs' anymore, right? | 17:49 |
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| AJaeger | tmcpeak: bandit adds the python-jobs job-group in jenkins/job/projects.yaml | 17:49 |
| AJaeger | So, with the change to python-jobs job-group in jenkins, it is available to be "called" | 17:50 |
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| tmcpeak | but we aren't calling 'python-jobs' we're calling 'python-jobs-linters' now, right? | 17:50 |
| AJaeger | And in zuul, we use the linters template that defines *when* and *what* to run | 17:50 |
| krotscheck | notmorgan: So you have no excuse either ;D | 17:50 |
| AJaeger | tmcpeak: jenkins != zuul | 17:50 |
| notmorgan | krotscheck: i never claimed i had an excuse | 17:50 |
| tmcpeak | ahh | 17:50 |
| notmorgan | krotscheck: :) | 17:50 |
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| tmcpeak | AJaeger: ok, I think I've got it :) | 17:51 |
| AJaeger | tmcpeak: this way *every* project only needs to change zuul/layout without a change to jenkins to use the linters template. | 17:52 |
| AJaeger | tmcpeak: Let's hope other reviewers agree with my approach, otherwise we're back to yours ;) | 17:52 |
| docaedo | speaking of jobs, wouldn't it be cool if jenkins slaves had requestsexceptions, as proposed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260230/ ? | 17:53 |
| * AJaeger signs off now | 17:53 | |
| AJaeger | Merry Christmas, Happy holidays everybody! I'm not planning to be on IRC the next few days... | 17:53 |
| tmcpeak | AJaeger: sounds good! Merry Christmas man | 17:54 |
| docaedo | AJaeger: have a great holiday! thanks for all the great reviews and guidance in 2015 :) | 17:54 |
| AJaeger | thanks, tmcpeak and docaedo ! | 17:54 |
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| dmsimard | fungi: turns out you can't swapon a sparse file, you can work around that by setting up a loopback device on a mkswap'd file and then doing a swapon on i.e /dev/loop1 | 18:04 |
| dmsimard | o_O | 18:04 |
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| dmsimard | Do ephemeral gate nodes ever reboot ? | 18:07 |
| jeblair | dmsimard: not after the job starts | 18:08 |
| jeblair | dmsimard: (would lose connectivity with jenkins and the job would fail) | 18:08 |
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| bkero | dmsimard: Look in the kernel ring buffer when you do that. Linux tells you it's going to break. :) | 18:11 |
| SpamapS | dmsimard: out of curiosity, is there some reason you even want more than a tiny bit of swap? | 18:12 |
| fungi | dmsimard: you can't put the file in fstab after you mkswap it and then swapon? | 18:12 |
| fungi | could have sworn that worked, but haven't tested recently | 18:12 |
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| SpamapS | My experience is 99% of the time swap just makes things mostly worse. | 18:14 |
| fungi | yep | 18:14 |
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| SpamapS | Little is good, lots is fail. | 18:14 |
| fungi | jobs which are paging heavily are going to perform terribly | 18:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Use a sparse swapfile on rootfs for providers without ephemeral disks https://review.openstack.org/261070 | 18:15 |
| fungi | however we provide swap devices inconsistently (in some providers but not others) and so it's easier to be consistently bad everywhere than to have poor performance in some places and outright break in others | 18:15 |
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| SpamapS | Yeah.. It's good if there are lingering processes that aren't doing much and get preemptively swapped out. But most everything else is just a harbinger of doom | 18:16 |
| dmsimard | fungi: not a sparse file, no, it complains about the file having holes in it | 18:16 |
| fungi | dmsimard: oh, ick | 18:16 |
| dmsimard | ^ what I came up with | 18:16 |
| krotscheck | fungi: So, wheel mirror things. The current discussion that we're tlaking re: unified mirrors is that the only way to get enough "disk space" to some of the clouds is to build a master mirror with an AFS cell, and then have the mirror hosts simply host that cell. the pypi hosts right now serve at root, so putting the wheel mirror on thoes would be tricky because we'd have to fiddle with apache rewrites a bit. | 18:16 |
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| dmsimard | fungi: error is "swapon: /root/swapfile: skipping - it appears to have holes." | 18:16 |
| fungi | maybe i've only used sparse files as xvd backend for swap under xen now that i think about it | 18:16 |
| fungi | we could also consider reducing the amount of swap we provide everywhere | 18:17 |
| SpamapS | Why not just do a 256M not sparse file? | 18:17 |
| krotscheck | jeblair, mordred: Do we have a puppet module that sets up an AFS cell? | 18:17 |
| clarkb | krotscheck pypi is at /simple and we can puts wheels at /wheel | 18:17 |
| fungi | right, something like that | 18:17 |
| dmsimard | I put 8GB because that's what we setup elsewhere | 18:17 |
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| fungi | right now we do 8gb swap on providers who have ephemeral disk, but if we reduce it everywhere for consistency that also seems fine to me | 18:17 |
| SpamapS | Also it's really weird to me that a provider would specify swap. Why isn't that an image component? | 18:17 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: ....sec | 18:17 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Hrm. Point. | 18:18 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: I wasn't aware that they could be cohosted in the same folder structure. | 18:18 |
| dmsimard | In my use case I need just slightly more than 8GB of RAM to complete a job successfully, otherwise I need to split it and it becomes very inefficient | 18:18 |
| fungi | SpamapS: is that something we can feed to diskimage-builder? | 18:18 |
| SpamapS | dmsimard: 256M more? | 18:18 |
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| dmsimard | SpamapS: ~2GB more, so it would fit on nodes where we already set up swap | 18:19 |
| clarkb | providers dont specify swap | 18:19 |
| SpamapS | fungi: no, I was more waxing in the model.. It seems like it would be useful image metadata to know minimum swap | 18:19 |
| sputnik13_ | to get a lib version bumped in global-requirements is it just a matter of submitting a patch to openstack/requirements? | 18:19 |
| clarkb | sputnik13_: yes | 18:19 |
| sputnik13_ | sweet thx | 18:19 |
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| SpamapS | dmsimard: whoa, what swaps out? Could you just shut it down instead? | 18:20 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: | 18:20 |
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| krotscheck | Oopws, wrong window | 18:20 |
| dmsimard | SpamapS: well I ran the job outside of the gate on a machine with enough RAM and it consumed around 10GB of RAM at the end of the test. | 18:20 |
| dmsimard | SpamapS: so it's not a matter of swapping so much as requiring a bit more ram | 18:21 |
| fungi | SpamapS: at least for some projects, they want to boot multiple instances of larger flavors than vm-tiny under devstack and so need more ram to accommodate that | 18:21 |
| SpamapS | dmsimard: including cache and buffers? | 18:21 |
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| fungi | mainly because of wanting to run something other than cirros | 18:21 |
| SpamapS | fungi: yeah, and I imagine to accommodate that most of the control plane swaps out.. | 18:22 |
| dmsimard | SpamapS: I haven't actually tried running it on a node with 8GB ram, I think I will do it to see what happens | 18:22 |
| dmsimard | I just took the opportunity to normalize the swap amount on nodes we hand out | 18:22 |
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| SpamapS | dmsimard: if that 10G includes buffer and cache then swap won't help much anyway | 18:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Min Pae proposed openstack/requirements: Bump taskflow minimum version to 1.25.0 https://review.openstack.org/261074 | 18:23 |
| SpamapS | dmsimard: since the OS will give up those before swapping pages that have been used recently | 18:23 |
| dmsimard | SpamapS: I'll check it out and report back :) | 18:24 |
| SpamapS | dmsimard: cool, and good luck. ;-) | 18:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add wheel mirror to mirrors https://review.openstack.org/253521 | 18:25 |
| phschwartz | :( I am not sure I like the new version of gerrit for one reason. I liked the copiable links for a patchset for a quick clone that don't appear to be there anymore | 18:25 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Ok, ^^ is rebased on master, should make room for greghaynes's rsync code (which I'll get to next). | 18:25 |
| fungi | anyway, i'd be fine with reducing the amount of swap we provide as long as we provide a consistent amount everywhere, and then tell people who need additional ram to boot multiple instances of some larger nova flavor to consider making those multi-node jobs | 18:26 |
| phschwartz | ahhh, it is hiden in the javascript download drop down | 18:27 |
| fungi | because the control plane overhead for the subnode if it's just a nova controller is likely pretty slim, so you'd get most of an additional 8gb of ram to boot more instances within | 18:27 |
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| clarkb | fungi or use a smaller flavor | 18:28 |
| fungi | yeah, obviously use a smaller flavor if you can get away with it | 18:28 |
| clarkb | 2GB of ram is really not necessary for ubuntu | 18:28 |
| fungi | this is true | 18:28 |
| fungi | you can boot trusty in 1gb pretty comfortably as long as you don't plan to load it down with a bunch of extra services and keep what's started in it to just what you want to test | 18:29 |
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| fungi | i run debian for some personal stuff (mailserver, dns servers, websites, irc server) on 1gb virtual machines and there's plenty of spare ram | 18:30 |
| fungi | so i have to assume ubuntu has a similar memory profilee | 18:31 |
| fungi | profile | 18:31 |
| fungi | i used to do 128-256mb ram for my debian servers, but that was starting to get a little tight a few years ago so i switched to 1gb | 18:32 |
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| fungi | also because i moved to rackspace and they didn't really provide any financial incentive to do less than 1gb ram on an instance | 18:33 |
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| fungi | so i doubled up some services on systems where i could get away with it without a significant reduction in security and shrunk the number of virtual machines instead | 18:34 |
| clarkb | this connwction comes to you via 1GB of ram | 18:34 |
| clarkb | its plenty as long as you dont run a web browseror an openstack | 18:34 |
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| fungi | indeed, i'm currently running my irc client on a shell server with 1gb ram (along with a couple instances of my mail client and some other stuff too, all at the same time) | 18:35 |
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| fungi | no swap device and free says i still have 690 open ignoring buffers/cache | 18:36 |
| fungi | 690mb open i mean | 18:36 |
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| jeblair | krotscheck: yes, everything related to afs is puppeted (with the exception of afstest.o.o). http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/afs.html | 18:39 |
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| jeblair | oh yeah, 1gb is huge | 18:41 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: Perfect. | 18:42 |
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| jeblair | my everything (mail + several webapps + other stuff) server runs in 1gb | 18:43 |
| jeblair | so do several of openstack-infra's production services :) | 18:43 |
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| nibalizer | I should learn more about the afs deployment if we're going to be using it now | 18:44 |
| fungi | mordred: "This poll (OpenStack N Release Naming) has not yet been ended by its supervisor, Monty Taylor (mordred@inaugust.com). The poll has been announced to end 2015-12-22 23:59:59 UTC." | 18:44 |
| fungi | just making sure that's still on your radar | 18:45 |
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| anteaya | going to sign off now, have good holidays everyone, see you next week | 18:55 |
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| pabelanger | enjoy | 18:56 |
| nibalizer | anteaya: so long | 18:56 |
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| krotscheck | greghaynes: I... _think_... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165240/20 can land. | 19:16 |
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| krotscheck | dstufft: Hey, sorry to ask this question again- you mentioned that there's some way of doing an alternate index for things built via pip wheel? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164927/15/jenkins/jobs/macros.yaml | 19:26 |
| krotscheck | I totally forgot what that thing actually was. | 19:26 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: do we need something other that apache mod_index? | 19:42 |
| fungi | er, other than | 19:42 |
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| fungi | oh, is this for filesystem-based access instead of http? | 19:43 |
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| krotscheck | fungi: Apparently the wheelhouse default output isn't consumable bt pip? I'm still learning. | 19:50 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: you mean filesystem access to a wheelhouse isn't working with pip? or putting a wheelhouse on a webserver doesn't work with pip? | 19:51 |
| krotscheck | fungi: I am investigatuing mgagne's comment here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164927/15/jenkins/jobs/macros.yaml'; | 19:52 |
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| krotscheck | I don't know enough about pip's behavior with web servers yet to determine if what we currently have will work. | 19:53 |
| krotscheck | I'm building one out to see. | 19:53 |
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| fungi | i think it had worked previously with just mod_autoindex but i don't know to what extent it ever ended up used in production when we were doing wheel building in pypi-mirror | 19:54 |
| fungi | also that was in the early days of wheel support in pip (circa 1.5?) so no idea to what extent that may have changed since | 19:54 |
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| clarkb | wheel mirror was in production with mod auto index | 19:59 |
| clarkb | the only real issue with mod auto index is it doesn't do the setuptools anme rewriting | 20:00 |
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| clarkb | which you can add with mod rewrite in front of the auto index | 20:00 |
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| fungi | name rewriting? yeah | 20:07 |
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| fungi | though pip has the alternate name matching implemented internally right? needs that for things like reading from local filesystem | 20:08 |
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| clarkb | ya but only on newer pip | 20:12 |
| clarkb | which is probably good enough for us now (but wasn't at the time) | 20:12 |
| fungi | right, i think we only care about the current most recent pip now | 20:13 |
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| fungi | especially since we're telling people not to use our mirrors | 20:14 |
| fungi | unlike back then | 20:14 |
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| fungi | so we have a lot more control over what pip versions will actually have a legitimate need to make use of it | 20:14 |
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| lifeless | pip handles rewriting itself | 20:16 |
| lifeless | the issue we had previously was local file urls not being handled when rewriting was needed | 20:16 |
| lifeless | tchaypo fixed that, circa pip 7 | 20:16 |
| lifeless | or 6.1 or something | 20:16 |
| fungi | ancient history in pip terms | 20:17 |
| krotscheck | lifeless: Cool! | 20:17 |
| krotscheck | lifeless: Could you say something to that effect on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164927/15/jenkins/jobs/macros.yaml ? I don't know the domain enough to structure an argument. | 20:17 |
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| krotscheck | Another question- the rsync target that greghaynes set up goes to web/openstack/DISTRO-THINGS/... clarkb mentioned that that needs to be web/wheel/DISTRO-THINGS. Which is it? | 20:20 |
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| clarkb | that works too | 20:34 |
| clarkb | just need a unique prefix | 20:34 |
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| pleia2 | o/ | 20:50 |
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| pleia2 | if anyone wants to have a look at this change, it's a good time to merge the logging ones https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252465/ | 22:10 |
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| waynr | i forgot who i need to talk to about getting a 2.x branch going for jenkins-job-builder | 22:54 |
| waynr | or would it be best to add that as something to discuss at the next openstack-infra meeting? | 22:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Ronald Bradford proposed openstack/requirements: Bump oslo.log to 1.14.0 https://review.openstack.org/261122 | 22:55 |
| waynr | I guess we already discussed http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/jenkins-job-builder_2.0.0-api-changes.html#development-process at the openstack-infra meeting | 22:56 |
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| waynr | yargh | 23:00 |
| waynr | rebasing my current work onto master is going to be fun after https://review.openstack.org/180463 | 23:00 |
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| jeblair | waynr: i'd ask fungi | 23:09 |
| jeblair | waynr: (i mean, ask him to push the button; i don't anticipate further discussion since we approved the spec) | 23:10 |
| waynr | jeblair: by the way, I was wondering if you are still opposed to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133465/ | 23:10 |
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| jeblair | waynr: i'm not opposed to the reordering, only the use of hacking to enforce it. | 23:11 |
| waynr | are you refering to the flake8 ignore change Darragh made? | 23:12 |
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| jeblair | waynr: yes; i'd like us to continue to ignore "H" | 23:12 |
| jeblair | waynr: (meanwhile, we often follow many of the sensible rules it encodes; i just don't want to get on the treadmill of tests failing for whatever is bothering the nova folks on any given day :) | 23:13 |
| waynr | is that a pretty widely-followed convention? (the use of H) | 23:14 |
| jeblair | waynr: fairly so in infra | 23:14 |
| waynr | my concern is that the use of H requires us to be more vigilant when reviewing patches for a project that is already difficult to keep up with | 23:15 |
| waynr | if our intent is to block on changes that violate the hacking guidelines anyway, isn't it easier to have flake8 fail instead of requiring us to always notice violations? | 23:16 |
| jeblair | i don't think the stuff checked by H is worth wasting reviewer or developer time on | 23:17 |
| jeblair | so no, i don't think it is our intent to block on those changes | 23:17 |
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| waynr | okay, well I'd like to get the reorder patch merged soon so i think i'll break it into two patches so we can continue discussion around H or not (it's not a big deal to me at this point honestly) | 23:19 |
| jeblair | ok | 23:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Create ansible job launch server https://review.openstack.org/261125 | 23:27 |
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| jeblair | (i know it _says_ ansible, but it doesn't actually ansible the ansible yet) | 23:28 |
| mordred | why not? | 23:28 |
| jeblair | but it's the bulk of the 'move the merger into the launcher' work -- actual ansible is next | 23:29 |
| mordred | jeblair: shouldn't the ansible always ansible the ansible | 23:29 |
| jeblair | # TODOv3: Ansible the ansible thing here. | 23:29 |
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| jeblair | mordred: why is that not good enough for you? | 23:29 |
| mordred | :) | 23:29 |
| mordred | jeblair: I'm demanding | 23:29 |
| mordred | fungi: sorry bout the pols, I wound up being online less than expected. they have now been ended | 23:29 |
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| nibalizer | hopefully we picked some good names | 23:32 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Create ansible job launch server https://review.openstack.org/261125 | 23:33 |
| jeblair | now with the right number of blank lines | 23:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Wayne Warren proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Reorder imports to match hacking guidelines https://review.openstack.org/133465 | 23:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Wayne Warren proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Enable openstack hacking guidelines flake8 checks. https://review.openstack.org/261127 | 23:34 |
| waynr | hmm somehow my .git/hooks/commit-msg became write-protected against my user | 23:34 |
| waynr | jeblair: ^^ there ya go, hopefully we can move forward on 133465 now | 23:35 |
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| jeblair | waynr: +0 and -2 (with rationale) respectively :) | 23:39 |
| waynr | cool | 23:40 |
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| fungi | mordred: no need to apologize to me, just reminding you since i expected that was what happened and that you'd benefit from a reminder | 23:48 |
| fungi | waynr: happy to add a branch. "feature/2.x" or what was it going to be? | 23:49 |
| fungi | i guess i could read the spec and remind myself whether it was specific on that point | 23:49 |
| fungi | branch from tip of master? | 23:49 |
| waynr | fungi: 2.0.x is what the spec says, and yeah from the tip of master | 23:50 |
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| fungi | waynr: feature/2.0.x surely | 23:52 |
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| waynr | that'll work | 23:53 |
| fungi | i'm going to interpret the spec that way since it says "feature branch" and we prefix all feature branches with feature/ | 23:53 |
| waynr | oh | 23:53 |
| waynr | it's not really a feature | 23:53 |
| mordred | fungi: I will say I'm pretty pleased by the poll results | 23:53 |
| waynr | more of a refactor | 23:53 |
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| waynr | but feature/2.0.x works as well as anything | 23:53 |
| fungi | waynr: yeah, but we call them feature branches anyway | 23:53 |
| fungi | for example zuul v2 and now v3 work happens on feature branches | 23:54 |
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| fungi | waynr: it's created now--thanks for your patience! | 23:54 |
| waynr | fungi: awesome, thanks for doing that! | 23:54 |
| fungi | any time | 23:55 |
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