| anteaya | zaro: thanks for digging that up! | 00:00 |
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| lifeless | mordred: why are you copy pastaing ? | 00:00 |
| anteaya | zaro: let me know if you have something to test or if you want to discuss something | 00:00 |
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| lifeless | mordred: oh, new reqs? | 00:00 |
| mordred | lifeless: yah. to add the new req as is from g-r | 00:00 |
| jeblair | ^C^Chelp^[^[Q^Qhelp:q! | 00:01 |
| lifeless | mordred: perhaps there should be a command for that | 00:01 |
| mordred | not editing it first is easier | 00:01 |
| mordred | lifeless: nah. then I'd have to remember how the command works | 00:01 |
| ianw | fungi / greghaynes: have you considered running bindep from puppet? i mean you can just [yum|apt-get] install $(bindep ...) , but it kind of breaks the whole idea of specifying packages in the .pp | 00:02 |
| lifeless | bindep ftw | 00:02 |
| mordred | jeblair: ^xf ../req<tab>/glo<tab><enter>^srequestsex<enter>^a^k^xb^y | 00:02 |
| lifeless | (in general, things I started ftw :)) | 00:02 |
| ianw | lifeless: well how did you think it would integrate with puppet :) | 00:02 |
| lifeless | ianw: it was written for devs, so didn't think about that at all :) | 00:03 |
| mordred | ianw: I think a bindep provider for puppet would be awesome | 00:03 |
| mordred | ianw: I have LONG thought that the way that puppet does packages is horsecrap | 00:03 |
| lifeless | ianw: but there is a parser in the library, so you can use that using a ruby python bridge | 00:03 |
| lifeless | ianw: (or just shell out to get it to resolve locally) | 00:04 |
| mordred | ianw: I've been meaning to write one for ansible too | 00:04 |
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| mordred | lifeless: if I were to write it, I'd do it as provider that shelled out to bindep | 00:04 |
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| mordred | ianw: although I understand the graph-theory reasons for treating each package requirement as a node in the graph | 00:05 |
| mordred | ianw: it's both inefficient (install packages one at a time rather than as a list) and it leaks impl details (if !defined(pacakge['foo']) { package { foo: } ) | 00:05 |
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| mordred | when what you are ALWAYS doing is asserting that you want a set of packages idempotently installed | 00:06 |
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| mordred | so it's one of those cases where theory and internal impl details lose in the face of common sense | 00:06 |
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| mordred | imo | 00:06 |
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| ianw | ok, so the answer for the pypi/wheel stuff seems to be start with a simple list of known things, and work towards bindep integration :) | 00:08 |
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| mordred | +100 | 00:08 |
| greghaynes | Yep | 00:08 |
| greghaynes | Actually, that is an interesting question, are bindep dependencies the runtime deps or build deps | 00:09 |
| mordred | yes | 00:09 |
| greghaynes | Yea, obv they are runtime, but I wonder if we might have other-build-deps.txt | 00:10 |
| ianw | greghaynes: ok, well i think the system-config bit just needs a few common deps in the puppet, then i can't see why it's not ready to test. i can add that if you want | 00:10 |
| greghaynes | ianw: go for it :) | 00:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Tony Breeds proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add #openstack-ux to accessbot https://review.openstack.org/241822 | 00:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Tony Breeds proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Enable logging in #openstack-ux https://review.openstack.org/241821 | 00:10 |
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| greghaynes | Or, I think bindep supports some kind of arbitrary tagging of packages | 00:11 |
| greghaynes | so we should just use that | 00:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add pep8 jobs for lodgeit https://review.openstack.org/241653 | 00:15 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: thank you | 00:16 |
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| pleia2 | so, stackalytics needs a service account for gerrit to watch the event stream, should I create a new -infra email address (like we did for zanata) and sign up to gerrit with that or something else? | 00:19 |
| anteaya | pleia2: I vote for the first thing | 00:20 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: that is my inclination as well | 00:20 |
| pleia2 | easier to track down issues if it's only used for one thing | 00:20 |
| pleia2 | second thing is, jeblair set up the translate@ email last time, I don't know if email account creation is something I have access to | 00:22 |
| anteaya | ah, good question | 00:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Update zuul-dev.o.o pipelines https://review.openstack.org/241827 | 00:24 |
| bardia | can anyone point me to an up to date instructions on setting up third party CI inf? | 00:24 |
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| bardia | I tried os-ext-testing but its way out of date and it does not work | 00:25 |
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| anteaya | hello bardia, have you come across this yet? http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/third_party.html | 00:26 |
| bardia | yes | 00:28 |
| bardia | but that doesn't include step to setup the infrastructure | 00:28 |
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| anteaya | bardia: okay just wanting to ensure you haven't skipped a step | 00:30 |
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| anteaya | bardia: have you seen this repo before? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci/ | 00:30 |
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| bardia | nope | 00:30 |
| anteaya | bardia: great | 00:31 |
| anteaya | bardia: so that is the code and currently the documentation is a patch that is under review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227584/ | 00:31 |
| anteaya | bardia: it would be great if you went over the documentation and tried to follow it sharing your experience with asselin as you go along | 00:32 |
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| bardia | great | 00:32 |
| bardia | thanks I will do that | 00:32 |
| anteaya | bardia: also there are third party meetings every week, it is a good place to meet other operators and ask questions | 00:32 |
| anteaya | bardia: wonderful, thank you, that will help a lot | 00:32 |
| anteaya | bardia: this is our meetings page: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ | 00:33 |
| bardia | cool | 00:33 |
| bardia | thanks | 00:34 |
| anteaya | you're welcome | 00:35 |
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| fungi | ianw: greghaynes: mordred: i can't think of any reason why using an exec to bindep from puppet for a lengthy set of cross-platform dependencies would be a poor choice, but i also haven't really thought about it before or for very long just now either | 00:35 |
| greghaynes | fungi: Yea, I think its a fine idea | 00:36 |
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| ianw | fungi: well, at a first instance you're going to have to handle yum/dnf/apt matching yourself | 00:38 |
| greghaynes | ianw: Thats what bindep does | 00:38 |
| greghaynes | well, it lets you do that | 00:39 |
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| greghaynes | so in theory we would only need to do the mapping in one place, then | 00:39 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: yeah, i think that's a big win in this context | 00:39 |
| jeblair | mordred, fungi, clarkb, timrc: https://www.ethercalc.org/wzvk5pjvuu | 00:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add wheel_mirror_slaves that use pypi-mirror https://review.openstack.org/165240 | 00:40 |
| jeblair | i think the new ovh configuration (with even less overcommitment) looks good. | 00:40 |
| ianw | greghaynes / fungi / modred : ^ so i'd propose we start something like that, and get things going | 00:40 |
| jeblair | mordred, timrc: i'm not quite sure about bluebox yet -- we're still seeing a large variation in times across the jobs. moving from 10 to 20 jobs didn't change the average much, but it did spread out the range a bit. this is not intuitive for me. | 00:43 |
| anteaya | adam_g: might I have one more respin please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241328/ finally got to look at it in detail | 00:44 |
| anteaya | jeblair: how soon do you think we can roll out ovh for test nodes? or are we and I missed it? | 00:45 |
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| fungi | ovh-4 falls between rax/hpcloud times, so presumably good enough? | 00:45 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: not yet, i'm still trying to profile it. | 00:46 |
| jeblair | fungi: that's my feeling. | 00:46 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: rolling it out and having it take 2 hours to fail all the jobs would be bad. | 00:46 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: so if we like this, i'll go back to the ovh people, probably do a little more testing, and then they'll see how much hardware they can actually put toward this, since we're apparently requiring more than they expected. | 00:47 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: i'll also ask how we could update our requirements so that people have a better idea of what we need. | 00:48 |
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| fungi | or, rather, their performance compared to other providers is not as well suited as they anticipated | 00:48 |
| jeblair | timrc, mordred: launched 5 jobs on bluebox now. | 00:48 |
| jeblair | fungi: indeed, we may be helping them discover that too :) | 00:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add wheel_mirror_slaves that use pypi-mirror https://review.openstack.org/165240 | 00:49 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: ah thank you for the update | 00:49 |
| anteaya | oh and I didnt' realize this commitment to us meant they have to do more shopping | 00:50 |
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| anteaya | thank you ovh | 00:50 |
| jeblair | fungi: though, oddly enough a thing that has hurt us here is that we are in our own host aggregate, so while we might normally tolerate oversubscription, we are less tolerant if we are our own neighbors. | 00:50 |
| fungi | that makes sense | 00:50 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 00:50 |
| greghaynes | oh wow | 00:50 |
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| greghaynes | That makes a ton of sense | 00:51 |
| anteaya | we make terrible neighbours | 00:51 |
| fungi | i know i do | 00:51 |
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| anteaya | ha ha ha | 00:51 |
| jeblair | and even then, if we are large enough, we could probably weather it in aggregate, but we really do often launch 10s of simultaneous devstack jobs... | 00:51 |
| anteaya | something something pull out the shrubs and plant cacti something something | 00:51 |
| greghaynes | That has some interesting implications for infra cloud because it will have the same issue | 00:51 |
| fungi | jeblair: mordred: clarkb: timrc: is the bluebox expected to be on consistent underlying hardware? and we're the only tenant in it? | 00:51 |
| jeblair | fungi: my understanding is yes and yes (i believe timrc verified the consistency yesterday, and i believe the single-tenant is more or less the business model) | 00:52 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: sounds like we want the scheduler to go breadth first, not depth first | 00:52 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: i think that would be advantageous for us | 00:53 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: that appears to be what's happening on bluebox | 00:53 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: ok. :( | 00:54 |
| jeblair | (is that the behavior of the default nova scheduler?) | 00:54 |
| greghaynes | I thought it wasn't, but I am not totally sure | 00:54 |
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| jeblair | greghaynes, fungi: but i have not been able to support a hypothesis like "compute node X is consistently slower" or "the clusters of times we see are associated with certain compute nodes" | 00:54 |
| jeblair | that seems to push "different hardware" lower on the list of possible causes for the performance variation | 00:55 |
| jeblair | i also haven't been able to support "the more instances running on a compute host the slower they all run" which doesn't support oversubscription | 00:55 |
| jeblair | so i'm still puzzled. | 00:56 |
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| jeblair | anyway, still hoping more data will trace a pattern | 00:56 |
| greghaynes | Yea, I don't have any great ideas for trying to find a pattern in that | 00:57 |
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| greghaynes | jeblair: For your tests, youre scheduling all of them at once? | 00:57 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: yes | 00:57 |
| greghaynes | Maybe we could look at how size of the number of nodes we schedule at once effects runtime? | 00:58 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: good idea. i'm running 5 now; if that is consistently fast, then i'll do 5+5 staggered and see if that looks more like running 5 or running 10. | 00:58 |
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| fungi | oh, yeah a stampede hitting the array at once (are these centralized or distributed storage?) could be one explanation | 01:02 |
| anteaya | clarkb: can you take a peek at http://logstash.openstack.org/#dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=message:%5C%22TypeError:%20format%20requires%20a%20mapping%5C%22 | 01:03 |
| anteaya | two goverance-docs jobs failures both on zm04 | 01:03 |
| timrc | Looping jlk into this dicussion jeblair. Jesse is my lead at Blue Box. | 01:04 |
| jeblair | fungi: it's a better explanation for "slow overall" but not a great match for "2 or 3 distinct timing profiles across a range +/- 25% of center" which is what i'm seeing. | 01:04 |
| anteaya | clarkb: sorry within the last 3 hours | 01:04 |
| timrc | jeblair: From a capacity standpoint we never came close to butting up to any upper limits on the resources allocated to this cloud. | 01:05 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: what about it? | 01:08 |
| clarkb | I get two results | 01:08 |
| timrc | jeblair: By any superficial marker: load avg, iowait, disk read/writes, I did not detect any pressure. | 01:09 |
| anteaya | yeah, sorry I thought the fact it failed on zm04 was significant | 01:09 |
| anteaya | but both failures are the same patch | 01:09 |
| anteaya | funny that they would both run on the same zuul merger twice in a row | 01:10 |
| timrc | jlk: Are we the only tenants on the hardware allocated to the monty cloud? | 01:10 |
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| fungi | jeblair: oh, yeah i see that now. some of the instances are taking 25% longer than the fastest ones, and some are 75% longer | 01:11 |
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| bardia | quick question for third_party CI | 01:11 |
| anteaya | clarkb: talking with the author in -dev, it is probably the patch but I can't see the error | 01:12 |
| fungi | jeblair: i agree the grouping is rather strange | 01:12 |
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| bardia | the CI only has the Jenkins master and the tests are run on cloud node? | 01:12 |
| anteaya | bardia: best to just go ahead and ask | 01:12 |
| timrc | jeblair: I'm not familiar with the actual machine specs for hpcloud... are their noticeable differences in cpu clock rates? | 01:12 |
| timrc | there* | 01:12 |
| bardia | confused about providers section of nodepool.yaml. do we have to use external cloud nodes for testing? | 01:13 |
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| boris-42 | jeblair: hi there | 01:13 |
| boris-42 | jeblair: is it possible to ban user in gerrit? we have some bot that is putting -1 on patches with random comments | 01:13 |
| nibalizer | boris-42: link? | 01:14 |
| fungi | boris-42: yes, link us to an example | 01:14 |
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| boris-42 | nibalizer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240903/ | 01:14 |
| boris-42 | fungi: so nick name is "Hui" which is quite bad word in russian =) | 01:14 |
| anteaya | bardia: nodepool manages a pool of vms | 01:15 |
| anteaya | bardia: in the section identifying external resources a pool of vms is one of three external requirements listed | 01:15 |
| fungi | boris-42: i've disabled that gerrit account now, e-mail address on it seems to be i140010@trbvm.com | 01:16 |
| anteaya | bardia: line 36 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227584/6/contrib/README.md | 01:16 |
| boris-42 | fungi: thank you | 01:16 |
| anteaya | boris-42: thanks for letting us know | 01:16 |
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| jeblair | timrc: hpcloud says we get 8 cpus at 2593.498MHz | 01:16 |
| jeblair | timrc: it claims they are model name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7700 @ 2.40GHz | 01:16 |
| jeblair | timrc: i have no idea how that compares to reality | 01:17 |
| bardia | anteaya: got it. thanks | 01:17 |
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| jeblair | timrc: 5186.99 BogoMIPS | 01:17 |
| anteaya | boris-42: there is a cache on the account, let us know if it keeps happening | 01:17 |
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| anteaya | bardia: thanks for asking | 01:18 |
| fungi | i did flush caches in gerrit as well, so hopefully they cease being able to leave comments through the webui immediately, at least | 01:18 |
| anteaya | fungi: wonderful, let's hope | 01:18 |
| boris-42 | anteaya: I will thanks | 01:19 |
| jeblair | timrc, jlk: i have to run for today; i have a test with 5 jobs running now; i'll resume this tomorrow morning | 01:20 |
| fungi | boris-42: did you see that account leaving comments on more than just these two changes? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/reviewer:i140010%2540trbvm.com,n,z want to make sure there aren't more accounts in use there | 01:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | matthew wagoner proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add new context manager for shade exceptions, cont. https://review.openstack.org/241667 | 01:22 |
| timrc | jeblair: I think the CPUs in the softlayer are around 2000mhz... I'm stilled miffed by the random-ish times though. | 01:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename projects akanda-* -> astara-* https://review.openstack.org/241328 | 01:22 |
| adam_g | anteaya, ^ thanks, was wondering how that gets resolved | 01:22 |
| anteaya | adam_g: :) | 01:22 |
| boris-42 | fungi: so we found only this for now.. | 01:23 |
| fungi | cool. let us know if more crop up | 01:23 |
| anteaya | adam_g: all the others have individual acl files for each attic'd repo: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/gerrit/acls/openstack-attic | 01:23 |
| boris-42 | fungi: sure | 01:23 |
| adam_g | anteaya, yea, makes sense | 01:23 |
| anteaya | adam_g: not the best but also fixing it is outside what I want to be responsible for for this rename | 01:23 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: okay the rename patches all look good to me, save one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237936 | 01:26 |
| timrc | jeblair: I wonder if just a subset of tests are variable or if they are uniformly variable? Would that be useful to know? e.g. if say tests that exercise network are variable but tests that exercise compute are uniform? | 01:26 |
| anteaya | clarkb: so I will leave that off the next step until I see a new patch on that one | 01:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fei Long Wang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add release notes jobs for Zaqar https://review.openstack.org/241831 | 01:27 |
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| clarkb | ok | 01:30 |
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| notmorgan | much better. | 01:42 |
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| timrc | jeblair: Just as a data point the softlayer systems are Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E7-4820 v2 @ 2.00GHz, 4002.39 | 01:46 |
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| anteaya | mtreinish: confirming openstack-health is not currently in the storyboard db | 01:46 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: this is for the rename of the puppet module which happens on Friday | 01:47 |
| anteaya | I can't see it in storyboard | 01:47 |
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| anteaya | clarkb fungi pleia2 if you want to take a peek at the steps in the maintainance plan before I populate them with script output: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/project-renames-November-6-2015 | 01:49 |
| anteaya | jeblair: ^^ if you care to look too | 01:49 |
| anteaya | I don't think I missed a step but you never know | 01:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for fwaas tests failing over quota https://review.openstack.org/241835 | 01:50 |
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| fungi | anteaya: a quick skim, lgtm | 01:54 |
| fungi | also i think we still need a maintenance announcement. i can send one tomorrow unless someone beats me to it | 01:54 |
| clarkb | timrc maybe the time diffs are based on whether or not the cpu is turboing | 01:54 |
| greghaynes | someone needs to hold down the button | 01:55 |
| fungi | that's what i was just thinking | 01:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add missing six requirement for svc-map element https://review.openstack.org/232962 | 01:57 |
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| anteaya | fungi: thank you for the quick skim | 02:01 |
| anteaya | fungi: well I think it is you and clark and I don't know if a time was announced but I thought you decided Friday | 02:02 |
| anteaya | or am I imagining that you decided Friday? | 02:02 |
| anteaya | sorry I don't know if a time was decided | 02:02 |
| fungi | i'll review the meeting log and make one up^W^W^Wconfer with clarkb | 02:03 |
| anteaya | sure | 02:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for fwaas tests failing over quota https://review.openstack.org/241835 | 02:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Update the name of repos.yaml to renames.list https://review.openstack.org/241840 | 02:11 |
| anteaya | fungi: ^^ | 02:12 |
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| fungi | anteaya: what script is erroring on that? the file is meant to be used by an ansible playbook | 02:16 |
| anteaya | ah perhaps that is my issue | 02:16 |
| anteaya | I am not using it as an ansible playbook, I am using it is a bash script | 02:16 |
| anteaya | I just copy/pasted it into a file and ran it | 02:16 |
| fungi | if you were trying to run the script in my (now ancient) change, look at the comments that indicate the format of the renames.list file | 02:17 |
| anteaya | fungi: this is what I came up with: http://paste.openstack.org/show/478038/ | 02:17 |
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| fungi | anteaya: yeah, totally different format | 02:18 |
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| anteaya | oh sorry I see that, you are right | 02:19 |
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| anteaya | that looks more usable | 02:22 |
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| anteaya | okay so that is what I have for https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/project-renames-November-6-2015 | 02:43 |
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| anteaya | fungi: if you and clark decide when you want to offline gerrit for this let me know | 02:47 |
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| timrc | So, I noticed that Nimble Storage CI checked my dummy change to sandbox a few days ago and then all of a sudden I got some random solicitation wondering if I'd be interested in learning more about Nimble Storage... hopefully that's just coincidence. | 03:04 |
| timrc | I'd be sad if they were mining Gerrit for leads. | 03:05 |
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| jlk | timrc: jeblair: yes, you are the sole tenant. Unless monty handed out access to other people. | 03:28 |
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| jlk | timrc: did you visit their booth in Tokyo? | 03:30 |
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| timrc | jlk: Oh that could be it ;) Scanned my badge. | 03:34 |
| jlk | there ya go | 03:34 |
| timrc | jlk: Not that I remember, but that seems probable. | 03:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix uniqueness check of initrd in fedora-minimal https://review.openstack.org/235705 | 03:36 |
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| anteaya | timrc: can you link me to the patch in teh sandbox? | 03:44 |
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| SamYaple | How do I get logs out of the gate? Is there a special 'logs' folder I can drop my logs into that will get them published? | 04:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/lodgeit: Add tox configuration https://review.openstack.org/241868 | 04:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Yaple proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add devstack-logs publisher for Kolla https://review.openstack.org/241878 | 05:15 |
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| rm_work | anyone know how to make this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239260/ not be stuck? | 05:22 |
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| rm_work | oh ok tonyb pointed out the depends-on i missed :P | 05:36 |
| tonyb | rm_work: :) like I said in the message I didn't realise that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237348/ hadn't landed | 05:37 |
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| tonyb | rm_work: still paging in task per-summit task state ;P | 05:38 |
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| Kennan | hi infra-cores please help review this if it is Ok ? | 05:38 |
| Kennan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218144/ | 05:38 |
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| tonyb | Kennan: you have an open question from sdague. | 05:40 |
| tonyb | Kennan: I suggest you answer that. | 05:40 |
| Kennan | we have answered tonyb: Sample replied | 05:41 |
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| Kennan | I am not sure what other he needs | 05:41 |
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| tonyb | Kennan: hmm okay | 05:43 |
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| tonyb | Kennan: Ah so Fedora 23 is the only distro that has packages that meet your minumum versions. | 05:46 |
| tonyb | Kennan: are they really the minimum required? | 05:46 |
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| Kennan | tonyb: I think so. but let me check with Sample | 05:50 |
| SamYaple | tonyb: thats ok though | 05:52 |
| SamYaple | at least in the case of ubuntu they package newer packages with cloud-archive | 05:52 |
| SamYaple | dont the rdo repos do the same? | 05:53 |
| SamYaple | its not like this is getting backported | 05:53 |
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| SamYaple | Kennan: also, I am fairly certain they are not the minimum requirements | 05:53 |
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| tonyb | SamYaple: I'm not certain either way as it it's okay'ness | 05:54 |
| tonyb | SamYaple, Kennan: It'd be good to know if they're actually the minimums but that's a complex problem. | 05:55 |
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| SamYaple | the upper-contraints can remain as is, we can lower the requirements.txt lower ends | 05:55 |
| SamYaple | since we are the only project using it, it should be fine | 05:55 |
| SamYaple | but for the record we bump stuff in requirements.txt past the distro packaged versions all the time | 05:56 |
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| mordred | tonyb, SamYaple: we have no knowledge of actual minimums at the moment, although I believe lifeless would like to do some things in that area | 06:00 |
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| SamYaple | quick! merge before decisions are made | 06:01 |
| mordred | tonyb, SamYaple: we don't target "what is availabe in distros" though | 06:01 |
| SamYaple | right, that much I did know | 06:01 |
| * mordred is jetlag-brain, so may not have followed the ENTIRE discussion | 06:02 | |
| SamYaple | this is only a conversation because sdague asked about versions packaged by distros | 06:02 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/241896 | 06:02 |
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| mordred | ah | 06:03 |
| mordred | nod | 06:03 |
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| mordred | fwiw, zuul depends on GitPython>=0.3.3 | 06:03 |
| mordred | and 1.0.1 is currently running on zuul.o. | 06:04 |
| mordred | and 1.0.1 is currently running on zuul.o.o | 06:04 |
| SamYaple | yea that sounds about right | 06:04 |
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| SamYaple | Kolla needs the same constraints i believe. | 06:04 |
| SamYaple | lemme test and ill get Kennan to update the patch with "mordred said it was ok" | 06:05 |
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| mordred | SamYaple: I think 1.0.1 is a fine version to require | 06:09 |
| mordred | I don't think we should be adding 0.x versions to g-r if there is a 1.x out at the time | 06:09 |
| SamYaple | i have no strong feelings one way or the other. i just want proposal bot proposing things | 06:10 |
| mordred | :) | 06:10 |
| crinkle | greghaynes: i added a new section to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-cloud-inventory-status | 06:11 |
| crinkle | it's called "working" | 06:11 |
| crinkle | i'm still trying to get used to it | 06:12 |
| jlvillal | The devstack-gate job that has been running for over 128 hours. Will it ever stop? http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 06:12 |
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| greghaynes | crinkle: whoa, all of those 'work'?} | 06:12 |
| crinkle | greghaynes: for low standards of 'work' | 06:12 |
| crinkle | greghaynes: as in they boot | 06:13 |
| clarkb | jlvillal it likely eont | 06:13 |
| clarkb | thats indicative of a patch that breaks networking | 06:13 |
| greghaynes | crinkle: boot from ironic? | 06:13 |
| crinkle | greghaynes: yup | 06:13 |
| clarkb | I wonder if we should remove that feature from zuul | 06:13 |
| greghaynes | crinkle: sweet | 06:13 |
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| clarkb | its "wont" | 06:14 |
| mordred | crinkle: wow! | 06:14 |
| clarkb | written on a soft keyboard late at night | 06:14 |
| jlvillal | clarkb, Ah :) | 06:14 |
| jlvillal | clarkb, That makes much more sense! | 06:14 |
| mordred | crinkle: that's even more working than not working | 06:15 |
| crinkle | mordred: ikr | 06:15 |
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| mordred | crinkle: are you sure ironic isn't just joking with you? | 06:15 |
| * jlvillal perks up on hearing Ironic... | 06:15 | |
| crinkle | mordred: i logged into them to make sure | 06:15 |
| zaro | clarkb, mordred trying to remote debug gerrit on review-dev but i think port is blocked. suggestions to resolve? | 06:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/241896 | 06:16 |
| mordred | jlvillal: we are successfully ironicing more nodes than not in our pile of machines currently - which is exciting | 06:16 |
| mordred | zaro: what's the port? | 06:16 |
| zaro | 8000 | 06:16 |
| jlvillal | mordred, Woo hoo! :) Great to hear it is being used. | 06:16 |
| mordred | zaro: yeah - that's almost certainly blocked - you might want to brush up on your ssh port forwarding skills | 06:17 |
| StevenK | nc: connect to review-dev.openstack.org port 8000 (tcp) failed: Permission denied | 06:17 |
| StevenK | Heh | 06:17 |
| zaro | mordred: brush up assumes i had some in the first place | 06:17 |
| mordred | :) | 06:18 |
| StevenK | zaro: ssh -L <port>:<remote>:<remote port> jump host | 06:19 |
| StevenK | Then connect to localhost:<port> | 06:19 |
| zaro | cuel! will give that a shot. thanks | 06:19 |
| mordred | yah. what StevenK said | 06:19 |
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| StevenK | zaro: -v is also helpful, but it will scribble all over that pty, no matter if the jump host gives you a shell prompt. | 06:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add #openstack-ux to accessbot https://review.openstack.org/241822 | 06:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/237894 | 06:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Maty Grosz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Initialize vitrage-specs project https://review.openstack.org/241899 | 06:27 |
| tonyb | mordred: I'm not certain I agree with you assertion that zuul follow g-r but I don't know that that really matters | 06:28 |
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| zaro | StevenK: i can't sem to get that to work | 06:32 |
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| zaro | StevenK: how do i test that i can connect? | 06:33 |
| StevenK | zaro: nc -vz should work | 06:34 |
| mgrosz | Hello, I have submitted a change for adding a new project vitrage-specs. Can someone review, please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241899/ | 06:34 |
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| zaro | StevenK: says 'nc: connectx to localhost port 4200 (tcp) failed: Connection refused' | 06:35 |
| zaro | StevenK: i setup as 'ssh -L 4200:<remote>:8000' jump host | 06:36 |
| zaro | actually it looks like it tries to connect but then i get 'ssh: connect to host jump port 22: Operation timed out' | 06:37 |
| StevenK | zaro: Ah, right. So what you want is ssh -L 4200:review-dev.openstack.org:8000 <some host that has access to review-dev's port 8000> | 06:37 |
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| clarkb | its likely you need to do 4200:localhost:8000 review-dev | 06:38 |
| StevenK | Ah yes | 06:38 |
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| zaro | ahh much better, thanks! | 06:40 |
| mgrosz | Hello, I have submitted a change for adding a new project vitrage-specs. Can someone review, please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241899/ | 06:40 |
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| mgrosz | Hello, I have submitted a change for adding a new project vitrage-specs. Can someone review, please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241899/ | 07:15 |
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| mgrosz | Hello, I have submitted a change for adding a new project vitrage-specs. Can someone review, please? Thanks. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241899/ | 07:57 |
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| mordred | tonyb: zuul doesn't follow g-r at all. it's not fully relevant. | 08:01 |
| mordred | tonyb: I was mainly saying that as "there is an active project in production in the OpenStack ecosystem that uses this version of this requirement" | 08:01 |
| mordred | tonyb: which may or may not be useful information | 08:01 |
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| zaro | yolanda: ping | 08:06 |
| yolanda | hi zaro | 08:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: zuul/layout/puppet-openstack_extras: invert matching rules https://review.openstack.org/241705 | 08:06 |
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| zaro | yolanda: was wondering if you could test this? https://review.openstack.org/240393 | 08:07 |
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| zaro | i mean run puppet apply test or something like that. | 08:08 |
| zaro | *test/dry run | 08:08 |
| yolanda | i should have a test instance that i use for Gozer, but the code won't be on sync | 08:08 |
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| zaro | hmm, do you know how to dry-run on jenkins-dev? | 08:09 |
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| zaro | yolanda: i just want to make sure the file runs without error. | 08:10 |
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| yolanda | well, if that passes tests, it means that it runs without error. But to test properly, what i normally do is to setup a test instance with this code, then do a puppet apply | 08:11 |
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| zaro | yolanda: ahh ok. i though you already had a proper env setup for that but if not then don't worry about it. | 08:12 |
| yolanda | mm, actually, looking more carefully, i found a problem with your change | 08:12 |
| yolanda | zaro, i have that for Gozer | 08:12 |
| yolanda | zaro, syntax looked fine, but i found a problem with the conditional nesting | 08:13 |
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| zaro | yolanda: i put it inside due to jhesketh comment in PS 1 | 08:15 |
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| yolanda | /etc/nodepool/scripts need to be always created | 08:15 |
| yolanda | the if ! defined need only to apply to project_config class | 08:15 |
| yolanda | but let me check the comment | 08:16 |
| Liuqing | HELLO attention!!! | 08:16 |
| Liuqing | http://pasteboard.co/1U9KhLGz.png | 08:16 |
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| Liuqing | normal user has admin privileges in openstack gerrit | 08:16 |
| Liuqing | see screenshot | 08:16 |
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| eliqiao | I don't have | 08:17 |
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| zaro | Liuqing: where does it say that? | 08:17 |
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| Liuqing | could you guys see screenshot? | 08:18 |
| zaro | yes, but i don't see registered users having admin priv | 08:18 |
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| yolanda | zaro, i'm not following jhesketh comment here, we should talk with him | 08:19 |
| yolanda | a definition of project config if not defined, and a require project_config to create /etc/nodepool/scripts look enough for me | 08:19 |
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| eliqiao | Liuqing: this is mine http://pasteboard.co/1Ua1VHzL.png | 08:20 |
| Liuqing | why registered user could edit the access of project? | 08:20 |
| yolanda | hi Liuqing, you have read only access, that's ok | 08:21 |
| zhurong | we can access https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/All-Projects,access, and can edit it | 08:21 |
| yolanda | then we have a problem | 08:22 |
| zaro | Liuqing: you cannot save it. | 08:22 |
| eliqiao | zhurong: oh, get you. | 08:22 |
| yolanda | no save option? | 08:22 |
| Liuqing | ok got that | 08:22 |
| Liuqing | could save that .. | 08:22 |
| yolanda | ok | 08:22 |
| yolanda | are you able to update and save? | 08:22 |
| Liuqing | no | 08:23 |
| eliqiao | hmm, just take a try , before landing any changes, it need to be reviewed | 08:23 |
| Liuqing | when i take a try , it will post one new 'modify access rule' patch | 08:23 |
| eliqiao | that is normal, make sense. | 08:23 |
| zaro | Liuqing: yeah, it won't get approved. | 08:24 |
| zaro | approve is the save | 08:24 |
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| yolanda | ok that's fine | 08:25 |
| zaro | yolanda: ok, please clarify with him and let me know. | 08:25 |
| yolanda | zaro ok | 08:26 |
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| zaro | good night | 08:27 |
| yolanda | bye zaro | 08:27 |
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| jhesketh | zaro, yolanda: I was querying why we were checking for the class to be defined. Surely it is or it isn't? | 08:32 |
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| jhesketh | yolanda: so I think the part that is confusing me is the need to check if the class is defined... for downstream, should we just be passing through the project_config_repo so that it can be overwritten? | 08:54 |
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| yolanda | jhesketh, mostly what we try to avoid when adding if ! defined checks, is errors about duplication on puppet. If you define the same class twice, puppet will fail. So if you co-locate this jenkins with another project that uses project_config as well, puppet will complain | 08:55 |
| yolanda | not the case of upstream and as this is system-config we could probably skip the check | 08:55 |
| yolanda | but it doesn't hurt | 08:55 |
| jhesketh | yolanda: is that defining the class though? I thought it was calling it | 08:55 |
| yolanda | jhesketh, if you call the class twice on a manifest, puppet will fail | 08:56 |
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| jhesketh | ah okay, now I follow | 08:56 |
| jhesketh | in that case, yes, I agree with your comment | 08:56 |
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| jhesketh | thanks for the clarification | 08:57 |
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| yolanda | np, puppet is so picky with duplicated declarations | 08:57 |
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| nibalizer | jhesketh: yolanda sometimes you can get aroubd that by only using 'include' but yea, sucks | 10:02 |
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| yolanda | nibalizer yes, problem is when you need to have a parameter, so you cannot use include... | 10:02 |
| nibalizer | yep | 10:03 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: I feel like you're also failing at jetlagging | 10:15 |
| rcarrillocruz | hmm | 10:16 |
| rcarrillocruz | folks | 10:16 |
| rcarrillocruz | you don't have a 'service' in upstream that you can query to get which master is a slave assigned to | 10:16 |
| rcarrillocruz | ? | 10:16 |
| rcarrillocruz | (morning) | 10:16 |
| mordred | morning! | 10:16 |
| mordred | I believe the data is in the nodepool db no? | 10:16 |
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| rcarrillocruz | yeah, but trying to query for static slaves, nodepool would have only single-use | 10:17 |
| rcarrillocruz | ? | 10:17 |
| mordred | oh - well, I mean, all of our static slaves are on the same master | 10:17 |
| mordred | they're all on jenkins.o.o | 10:17 |
| rcarrillocruz | yeah, we have them spread out | 10:17 |
| rcarrillocruz | we have gazillion static slaves | 10:17 |
| rcarrillocruz | o-k | 10:17 |
| rcarrillocruz | i'll need to loop over all masters and query them i guess | 10:18 |
| mordred | yah - so no, we do not have such a thing at the moment | 10:18 |
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| mordred | I believe we intend to have such a thing once nodepool can understand static slaves | 10:18 |
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| mordred | but nothing now | 10:18 |
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| sc68cal | mordred: it's getting a little old now | 10:38 |
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| mordred | sc68cal: I know, right? | 10:40 |
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| mordred | sc68cal: otoh - I've just finished writing some nice patches for python-neutronclient | 10:41 |
| mordred | :) | 10:41 |
| sc68cal | woo! | 10:41 |
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| mordred | (also involved adding a feature to os-client-config - but I have a python-neutronclient repo now that defers all arg parsing and declaration to os-client-config, as well as session and client construction) | 10:42 |
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| sc68cal | nice | 10:43 |
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| daemontool | all: anyone can help with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239668/ | 11:04 |
| daemontool | this is the change that generate the failure, before it was working: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239668/5..8/reference/projects.yaml | 11:04 |
| daemontool | console logs here: http://logs.openstack.org/68/239668/8/check/gate-governance-docs/e128b9f/console.html | 11:05 |
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| yolanda | daemontool, i'm not familiar with these jobs but i see 2015-11-05 00:43:29.115 | File "/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-governance-docs/doc/source/_exts/teams.py", line 36, in _team_to_rst | 11:10 |
| yolanda | 2015-11-05 00:43:29.116 | yield ':PTL: %(name)s (%(irc)s)' % ptl | 11:10 |
| yolanda | 2015-11-05 00:43:29.116 | TypeError: format requires a mappingç | 11:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Disable python34 for stable/kilo and juno branches https://review.openstack.org/241994 | 11:10 |
| yolanda | looks as you miss some setting? | 11:10 |
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| daemontool | yolanda, yes | 11:11 |
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| sambetts | Morning everyone o/ can I get some eyes on this please a merge into stable/kilo of ours is being blocked by this, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241994/ | 11:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Test a update in trunk repository version https://review.openstack.org/229789 | 12:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack-infra/project-config: add release notes jobs for nova https://review.openstack.org/242027 | 12:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Renamed pypi.<>.openstack.org to mirror.<>.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/238754 | 12:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Clean up references to old pypi mirror urls. https://review.openstack.org/238755 | 12:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Added NPM Mirror to Infra https://review.openstack.org/235617 | 12:57 |
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| sdague | so now that we've got the wheel mirror builder code back up - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165240, someone else want to review to get these bits out there | 13:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: zuul/layout: fix puppet-integration jobs https://review.openstack.org/242040 | 13:18 |
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| dhellmann | anteaya : could you poke https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241344/ now that its dependency has merged, please? I'm not sure if it needs another approval or what. | 13:23 |
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| pasquier-s | hello everybody, it would be great if someone from infra could look at this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239926/ | 13:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: add release notes jobs for glance https://review.openstack.org/241344 | 13:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Allow browsing stories by creator_id https://review.openstack.org/212104 | 13:47 |
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| sdake | morning folks | 13:53 |
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| sdake | would it be possible to get a 16gig vm in the gate? | 13:54 |
| sdake | we do multinode vm testing single node by using dind | 13:54 |
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| mordred | sdake: not really - we do 8g nodes for the rest of the tests on purpose, and adding a node type to the pool is fairly costly in terms of being able to spread workloads | 13:55 |
| mordred | sdake: can you do multinode vm testing on mutliple nodes? | 13:56 |
| sdake | we can't because we have to have the images in one registry | 13:56 |
| sdake | registry push takes forever | 13:56 |
| sdake | SamYaple ^^ | 13:56 |
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| mordred | shouldn't registry pushes be differential? I mean, would solving the "how do we have a pre-cached registry" problem be helpful? Or still problematic for your usecase | 13:57 |
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| sdake | it shoudl be differential but docker is busted and as a result it is not | 13:57 |
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| sdake | https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/14018 | 13:58 |
| sdake | we could use v1 regitry but samyaple indicated this would still not fit in the 90 minute timer we have | 13:59 |
| mordred | awesome | 13:59 |
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| sdake | that is why we hvee investigated multinode gating in one vm | 13:59 |
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| sdake | which appears to work in our experiments minu the out of memoroy problem ;) | 13:59 |
| SamYaple | all of those things yes | 14:00 |
| SamYaple | i think its oom still investigating | 14:00 |
| sdake | mordred before we commit to 16gb vms, i'd like to prove it actually would be viable | 14:00 |
| sdake | i am not convinced but sam seems to think it woudl work | 14:00 |
| SamYaple | it does work | 14:01 |
| SamYaple | i do it on my local machine | 14:01 |
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| sdake | oh didn't know that | 14:01 |
| sdake | if only i was omnipotent ;) | 14:01 |
| mordred | you should probably consider 16g vms a non-starter | 14:01 |
| SamYaple | this i told him :) | 14:01 |
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| sdake | roger, well worth asking | 14:02 |
| SamYaple | indeed | 14:02 |
| sdake | thanks for the confirmation | 14:02 |
| mordred | getting 8g vms that perform properly across our providers is a hard enough challenge - and on at least one of the providers we're actually capped out with 8g because of how we have to get them | 14:02 |
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| mordred | now - if you could get someone to donate us 1000 beefy bare metal machines - we'd be more than happy to oblige :) | 14:02 |
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| sdake | mordred this is the approach tripleo takes correct? | 14:03 |
| SamYaple | i can give 1.... | 14:03 |
| mordred | sdake: well - ish - the tripleo farm has bare metal hosts network-adjacent to the vms we spin up in their vm cloud | 14:03 |
| mordred | and their test jobs know how to do things with them | 14:03 |
| mordred | the level of effort that went in to getting that running was fairly high though | 14:04 |
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| sdake | mordred just exploring options, i dont even know who I would beg for gear | 14:05 |
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| SamYaple | i will confirm OOM then trim fat | 14:05 |
| sdake | SamYaple so the idea of building on each node is not viable? | 14:06 |
| sdake | I realize its not exactly what kolla does or how kolla operates | 14:06 |
| sdake | but its how the dind gate runs right? | 14:06 |
| SamYaple | nope | 14:06 |
| SamYaple | not even a little | 14:06 |
| mordred | \o/ | 14:06 |
| sdake | noep to which question? :) | 14:06 |
| mordred | all of them | 14:06 |
| mordred | :) | 14:06 |
| SamYaple | yes | 14:06 |
| SamYaple | but seriously, no to all of them | 14:07 |
| mgrosz | Hello, I have submitted a change for adding a new project vitrage-specs. Can someone review, please? Thanks. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241899/ | 14:07 |
| sdake | mordred do these gate machiens have swap | 14:08 |
| sdake | a large swap space might work for us | 14:08 |
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| mordred | some of them do | 14:08 |
| SamYaple | sdake: i can make swap i have a disk | 14:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can just make swap from a file | 14:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats how o-a does it | 14:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | not ideal, but works | 14:08 |
| SamYaple | yup | 14:08 |
| mordred | some of them have a not-huge-amount of disk in the first place | 14:09 |
| sdake | so les explore that | 14:09 |
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| mordred | we've got a todo list task to document what our actual available disk you can count on it | 14:09 |
| mordred | is | 14:09 |
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| SamYaple | mordred: except hp, 500gb out of nowhere | 14:09 |
| mordred | yah. so much disk in HP | 14:09 |
| mordred | but that's because we spin up 30G nodes there and then kernel limit them to 8G | 14:09 |
| SamYaple | wait say that again? | 14:10 |
| mordred | the 8G nodes there are too slow | 14:10 |
| mordred | so we spin up 30G nodes which are mostly fast enough | 14:10 |
| mordred | but we don't want to accidentally land changes that require more than 8G of ram, since that's what we spin up elsewhere | 14:11 |
| mordred | so we modify the kernel boot parameters to make the kernel only show 8G of ram on tose boxes | 14:11 |
| SamYaple | :/ | 14:11 |
| sdake | could we override that from 8 to 16? | 14:11 |
| mordred | nope. because the nodes elsewhere aren't 16G | 14:11 |
| SamYaple | if we want our gate to work only 30% of the time :P | 14:11 |
| mordred | (we very much don't want different sizes across clouds) | 14:11 |
| mordred | yah | 14:11 |
| mordred | that | 14:11 |
| sdake | always force ourgate tor un on hp? | 14:12 |
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| SamYaple | no lets not do any of that | 14:12 |
| SamYaple | ill work out some answers | 14:12 |
| SamYaple | need to identify the problem 100% first | 14:12 |
| mordred | well, if you did that, your gate would stop working in January | 14:13 |
| SamYaple | curl http://download.com/ram | /dev/ram | 14:13 |
| mordred | heh | 14:13 |
| hashar | can we pass it parameters ? | 14:13 |
| sdake | oh hp is stopping gating as well? | 14:13 |
| mordred | sdake: they're turning off their public cloud | 14:14 |
| sdake | yup i was aware | 14:14 |
| sdake | wasn't sure if that meant gating as well sounds like yes | 14:14 |
| mordred | yah. we just consume their public cloud | 14:14 |
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| mordred | we're working with them to find other ways for them to continue donating resources | 14:14 |
| sdague | mordred: as you are active, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230956/ is stalled and is basically documentation for d-g so we don't forget next time | 14:15 |
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| mordred | sdague: I like documenting things! | 14:15 |
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| mordred | sdague: or, rather, I like it when other people do :) | 14:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | mordred: me too :) | 14:16 |
| mordred | Sam-I-Am: :) | 14:16 |
| mordred | sdague: +3 | 14:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | slowly but surely, we get there | 14:16 |
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| mordred | sdague: btw - I wrote a patch for novaclient this morning because jetlag | 14:16 |
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| sdague | mordred: ah, cool | 14:16 |
| mordred | sdague: I have not yet pushed it because I still need to fix up tests and stuff | 14:16 |
| sdake | jetlag = 4am patches ftw | 14:16 |
| mordred | sdague: but it's the patch to make novaclient clouds.yaml and keystoneauth aware/consuming | 14:17 |
| sdague | mordred: great, looking forward to it | 14:17 |
| mordred | sdague: it's pretty neat - nova --os-cloud=vexxhost list totally works on my laptop now :) | 14:17 |
| SamYaple | i have bad vision and the sda*e are getting confusing | 14:17 |
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| mordred | SamYaple: you should have been here the cycle where both of them joined openstack at the same time | 14:18 |
| openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/lodgeit: Add tox configuration https://review.openstack.org/241868 | 14:18 |
| sdague | mordred: makes me happy, should also make the functional tests a little nicer | 14:18 |
| mordred | it was like "which one is k and which one is g?" | 14:18 |
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| mordred | sdague: yah. fo sho | 14:18 |
| SamYaple | the funny one | 14:18 |
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| sdague | mordred: hey, so a question that came up in nova channel | 14:18 |
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| sdague | which was novaclient functional tests hitting bits of function which error when neutron is backing the cloud | 14:19 |
| sdague | because, non api compat | 14:19 |
| sdague | how are you addressing that in shade? | 14:19 |
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| sdague | to give an idea of the right way to address it here | 14:20 |
| sdague | also - http://logs.openstack.org/38/224538/1/check/gate-novaclient-dsvm-functional/126c027/console.html#_2015-11-05_04_19_37_739 | 14:20 |
| sdague | /usr/local/jenkins/slave_scripts/subunit2html.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory | 14:20 |
| sdague | is that something transient, or is there something wrong on a class of nodes | 14:20 |
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| mordred | sdague: oh - so - in shade, we normalize apis to look like neutron is always backing the cloud | 14:20 |
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| mordred | sdague: for instance, http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/shade/tree/shade/_utils.py#n157 and the function below it | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/lodgeit: Make test_json_get_styles work cross-platform https://review.openstack.org/241627 | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/lodgeit: pep8: F401 '<name>' imported but unused https://review.openstack.org/241547 | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/lodgeit: Add instructions and dependencies for running tests https://review.openstack.org/234637 | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/lodgeit: pep8: E131 continuation line unaligned for hanging indent https://review.openstack.org/241540 | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/lodgeit: Fix the tests by removing dependency on alfajor https://review.openstack.org/241568 | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/lodgeit: pep8: E128 continuation line under-indented for visual indent https://review.openstack.org/241538 | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/lodgeit: Ignore the virtualenv folder and Eclipse's settings files. https://review.openstack.org/241569 | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/lodgeit: pep8: E127 continuation line over-indented for visual indent https://review.openstack.org/241539 | 14:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/lodgeit: pep8: E272 multiple spaces before keyword https://review.openstack.org/241536 | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/lodgeit: pep8: E302 expected 2 blank lines, found <n> https://review.openstack.org/241534 | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/lodgeit: pep8: E712 comparison to False should be 'if cond is False:' or 'if not cond:' https://review.openstack.org/241537 | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/lodgeit: pep8: E265 block comment should start with '# ' https://review.openstack.org/241535 | 14:21 |
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| mordred | sdague: make security groups always look the same no matter which is the backend | 14:21 |
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| mordred | sdague: and then we do similar tings in other places for data structures - we also just use the neutron api for neutron commands when we can when neutron is there | 14:22 |
| mordred | sdague: because saying "if neutorn exists, call the neutron floating ip command" is pretty easy - as opposed to "poke at the nova api and see if it's prxying nova-net or neutron" | 14:23 |
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| sdague | yeh, I think the fixed_ip_get and dns admin are the things falling down | 14:23 |
| sdague | yeh, from a novaclient functional testing perspective it's a little different, because we mostly just want to skip those in neutron. I guess looking at service catalog is probably the best bet there | 14:24 |
| mordred | ++ | 14:24 |
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| mordred | I definitely think trying to align fixed_ip_get with a neutron backed cloud in novaclient is not worth the energy - since the neutron semantics on that are so different | 14:25 |
| mordred | I know nothing about nova dns, so can offer no corroboration there | 14:25 |
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| sdague | yeh, nova has basic dns management facilities on nova-net | 14:26 |
| sdague | which I assume is just a dead thing with designate, except that whole integration story is a bit opaque to me still | 14:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Don't warn on configured insecure certs https://review.openstack.org/241215 | 14:42 |
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| greghaynes | jeblair: clarkb Curious if you all agree with my comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235165/1/nodepool/provider_manager.py | 14:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Use the requestsexceptions library https://review.openstack.org/241307 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Fix keystone domain searching https://review.openstack.org/241704 | 14:48 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: looks like you are taken care of with 241344, yolanda and ajeager are faster than I | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Normalization methods should return Munch https://review.openstack.org/241738 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Normalize domain data https://review.openstack.org/241743 | 14:48 |
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| HenryG | anteaya: ianw: can you spare a few seconds to look at https://review.openstack.org/241994 ? | 14:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fix up neutron and designate constructors https://review.openstack.org/242095 | 14:49 |
| anteaya | HenryG: I have to be afk for a bit, will check when I return | 14:53 |
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| HenryG | anteaya: thanks! | 14:53 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Decouple nodepool db and config from builders https://review.openstack.org/222398 | 14:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add new context manager for shade exceptions, cont. https://review.openstack.org/241667 | 14:59 |
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| Shrews | TheJulia: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/241667 when you get a chance? It touches a lot of your ironic code. | 15:01 |
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| TheJulia | Shrews: I like it o far, not seeing anything sticking out, I'm going to feed bifrost a canary job with it to see if things are happy with it | 15:06 |
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| TheJulia | s/it o/it so/ | 15:06 |
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| Shrews | TheJulia: i was hoping you'd do that. thx :) | 15:06 |
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| Shrews | TheJulia: mordred and I won't approve it until you give the ok | 15:07 |
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| TheJulia | Shrews: submitted the job | 15:10 |
| TheJulia | Shrews: and thank you :) | 15:10 |
| TheJulia | Shrews: clearly, I owe you a cup of coffee | 15:11 |
| Shrews | TheJulia: irish, please | 15:11 |
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| mgrosz | Hello, Can someone review, please? I need it merged.... Thanks https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241899/ | 15:11 |
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| dhellmann | anteaya : thanks | 15:16 |
| Jokke_ | anyone has idea what that NOT_REGISTERED means and how we fix it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242044/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227312/ | 15:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: inline comment on when to do branches https://review.openstack.org/230956 | 15:17 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Decouple nodepool db and config from builders https://review.openstack.org/222398 | 15:17 |
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| fungi | Jokke_: it usually means there are no workers registering any ability to run that job | 15:19 |
| zul | fungi: have you seen this before? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13112919/ | 15:20 |
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| Jokke_ | fungi: thanks, is that something that will sort itself out or do we need to do something about it? | 15:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/requirements: Bump ironicclient upper constraint to 0.10.0 https://review.openstack.org/242111 | 15:22 |
| fungi | Jokke_: it looks like a recheck should clear it. i see 10 bare-trusty workers currently available to run that | 15:23 |
| fungi | chances are it got updated on zuul before it was added to any of the jenkins masters, and those changes were unlucky enough to run during that window | 15:23 |
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| sdague | fungi: so, after our revert fest yesterday, could I nudge you to review the system-config changes to get the pypi wheel mirror bits moving https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165240/ | 15:24 |
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| fungi | zul: that doesn't look familiar, but then again i don't use cookiecutter very often | 15:25 |
| fungi | sdague: yep, it's on my to do list for today | 15:25 |
| zul | fungi: yeah its me not you ;) | 15:25 |
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| Jokke_ | fungi: ok, thanks! | 15:28 |
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| mordred | jroll: when 0.10.0 release will be? | 15:29 |
| mordred | jroll: I hand tiny pine tree as release present | 15:29 |
| fungi | mordred: you totally stocked up on those in japan | 15:30 |
| mordred | fungi: SO MANY TINY PINE TREES | 15:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Danilo Ramalho proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: IPC-76 Fix broken acceptance tests https://review.openstack.org/242116 | 15:30 |
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| fungi | totemo kawaii desu yo | 15:31 |
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| Shrews | fungi: mordred: I have those growing in my yard and I didn't even have to cross oceans for them | 15:31 |
| mordred | fungi: I also came back with 3 bottles of cachaça, which you wouldn't normally associate with tokyo - but samueldmq is awesome | 15:31 |
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| jroll | mordred: sounds like today, doug wanted a link to that upper constraints change before doing it | 15:31 |
| samueldmq | mordred: o/ | 15:31 |
| mordred | jroll: woot! | 15:31 |
| mordred | jroll: I have a change that's waiting on it, so I look forward to being able to recheck that change and then land it | 15:32 |
| * mordred enjoys odd things | 15:32 | |
| mordred | jeblair: when you awaken from your jetlags, I am having a very hard time subscribing to projects in gertty | 15:33 |
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| jroll | mordred: yay | 15:34 |
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| krotscheck | I have a few questions. Are the release slave and the jenkins slaves cut from the same cloth? That is to say, if I try to get a thing installed on the jenkins slaves, will the release slave also get it? | 15:36 |
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| krotscheck | Alternatively, is the $NODEPOOL_REGION environment variable available to a build macro? | 15:36 |
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| * krotscheck is trying to write the npm portion of configure_mirrors.sh, and appears to have a bit of a chicken/egg problem vis-a-vis the existence of npm. | 15:37 | |
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| Shrews | mordred: do we even need pass_version_arg in shade anymore with the changes in 242095? | 15:37 |
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| Shrews | mordred: it's no longer used | 15:38 |
| mordred | Shrews: nope. I just left it in case there was another client that was also broken | 15:38 |
| Shrews | kk | 15:38 |
| jeblair | mordred: what sort of problems? | 15:39 |
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| pabelanger | pleia2: ilyashakhat: I guess we need to figure out how large of a server we need for stackalytics.o.o. I guess 32GB of memory is required? | 15:44 |
| pabelanger | pleia2: ilyashakhat: Locally, I was testing with 8GB, but ran out of memory eventually | 15:44 |
| mordred | jeblair: I hit "s" and wait for a while and still nothing happens | 15:44 |
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| jeblair | mordred: can you paste the debug log from the time? | 15:45 |
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| krotscheck | Incidentally, is now a good time to do the mirror renam? | 15:46 |
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| mordred | jeblair: yes. let me try again once it's finished syncing so that the debug log is less chatty | 15:46 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: the nodepool workers have the openstack_project::single_use_slave class as their entrypoint, while release.slave.o.o uses openstack_project::release_slave instead | 15:51 |
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| krotscheck | fungi: Hrm. Ok, so I wouldn't be able to use slave_common since they both use that. | 15:55 |
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| tdurakov | sdague, clarkb hi | 16:00 |
| tdurakov | what is the easiest way to debug and test new job? | 16:01 |
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| krotscheck | tdurakov: The times I've built one it's been more of a question of trial and error. Most of the existing macros all work - it just requires quite a bit of code reading to figure out how to make your code output what they're expecting. | 16:11 |
| krotscheck | tdurakov: In such cases as you need a custom macro of your own, I've always just run that locally on my own single-use VM. | 16:12 |
| krotscheck | (Which is actually a little complicated to set up) | 16:12 |
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| jroll | mordred: ironicclient now has a 0.10.0 tag, open fire on lxml | 16:12 |
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| mordred | woot! | 16:12 |
| krotscheck | tdurakov: Is there a particular patch you need help with? Code reviews are usually the best way to gain understanding as to how things might break. | 16:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Decouple nodepool db and config from builders https://review.openstack.org/222398 | 16:13 |
| mordred | jeblair, Shrews: ^^ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240628/ I rechecked - it removes shade's transitive depend on lxml | 16:13 |
| tdurakov | krotscheck, I haven't uploaded one yet. Working on a new job for nova, so wanted to test it locally before | 16:13 |
| jeblair | mordred: nice | 16:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Ryzhenkin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Force set network gateway in murano job-template https://review.openstack.org/241422 | 16:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gertty: Change key binding for reverse sort to shift-r ('R') https://review.openstack.org/233566 | 16:19 |
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| SamYaple | mordred: how do I go about investigating true multinode vms for the gate? I have a way around the issues discussed earlier | 16:23 |
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| mordred | SamYaple: we have some jobs using it already - you probably want to sync with clarkb when he's up though | 16:26 |
| mordred | SamYaple: he's the smart one | 16:27 |
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| SamYaple | roger roger | 16:27 |
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| mordred | jeblair: so - I can't remember if I mentioned or not - but I've been working through shade API usage for the nodepool flow and making sure that we're only making the API calls we expect to make | 16:32 |
| mordred | jeblair: I've found and fixed two places where we made an API call that we didn't need to make | 16:33 |
| mordred | jeblair: so I _think_ we're getting close to being ready to rebase the nodepool patch and do some shade runs with it again | 16:33 |
| mordred | (since that was the most recent issue) | 16:33 |
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| freerunner | Hi folks! I would like to ask you for review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241422/3 . This patch is quite needed for murano, and is should make our new job green. | 16:35 |
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| mordred | jeblair, Shrews: well, I say found and fixed - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240941 is the second one | 16:41 |
| pabelanger | timrc: have some time to approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241678 patchset? Its some updates to singlestat that yolanda has asked for. Little refactor and adds more code coverage | 16:42 |
| pabelanger | mordred: do you happen to know how much memory stackalytics.com uses? | 16:43 |
| mordred | pabelanger: I do not | 16:43 |
| pabelanger | roger | 16:43 |
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| mordred | pabelanger: more than 512M :) | 16:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add release notes jobs for ironic https://review.openstack.org/242152 | 16:45 |
| jlvillal | Should the job that has been running for over 139 hours be killed? http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 16:45 |
| krotscheck | jlvillal Urrr..... wow. That's amazing | 16:45 |
| jlvillal | :) | 16:45 |
| mordred | some jobs are amazing | 16:46 |
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| jlvillal | johnthetubaguy, Is the proud owner of that job :) | 16:46 |
| jlvillal | s/owner/creator/ | 16:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh dear, is that the LXC thing? | 16:46 |
| jlvillal | johnthetubaguy, It is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237480/ | 16:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I see now, fun fun | 16:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | its the test out LXC stuff | 16:48 |
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| timrc | pabelanger: Sure. I'll have some time this afternoon to take a look at that review. | 16:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jlvillal: is there a way for me to kill the run? | 16:49 |
| pabelanger | timrc: thanks! | 16:50 |
| jlvillal | johnthetubaguy, Only way I know of would be to ask infra people nicely :) | 16:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Test a update in trunk repository version https://review.openstack.org/229789 | 16:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/requirements: Bump upper-constraint for os-client-config https://review.openstack.org/242160 | 16:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add NodeJS and NPM to single-use-slave https://review.openstack.org/242161 | 17:00 |
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| wznoinsk | hi fungi pleia2 et al | 17:00 |
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| wznoinsk | would you know whether Anreas is around in last/next days? I'm thinking how can I get a hold on him in re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222763/ ... unless I can ask someone else to comment on it | 17:01 |
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| daemontool_ | anyone available to review acl changes please https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242025/ | 17:06 |
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| fungi | eek, freenode just lost a server i think | 17:08 |
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| fungi | johnthetubaguy: jlvillal: we don't have manual dequeue capability in zuul yet. in the past, abandoning the change until you're ready to upload a new patchset has worked to stop the looping for situations where the change does something to cause jenkins to lose contact with the worker and get automatically requeued ad infinitum | 17:13 |
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| mordred | fungi, Shrews, jeblair: woot! this patch works now! please to +A the change, because it makes lxml go away | 17:14 |
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| mordred | oh | 17:14 |
| mordred | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240628/ | 17:14 |
| mordred | the patch | 17:14 |
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| fungi | heh | 17:15 |
| jeblair | turns out there is more than one patch outstanding | 17:15 |
| fungi | i keep getting lagged on the new freenode server i jumped to after the previous one became unresponsive. must be international ddos freenode day | 17:16 |
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| mordred | jeblair: BAH | 17:18 |
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| mordred | fungi: it seems like a day that should be a day | 17:18 |
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| sdague | hmmm... so I just logged into openstackid | 17:19 |
| sdague | and it gave me dhellmann's profile page | 17:20 |
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| jeblair | sdague: congrats! | 17:20 |
| sdague | is that a feature? | 17:20 |
| zaro | morning | 17:21 |
| jeblair | sdague: it must be -- the alternative is terrible! | 17:21 |
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| sdague | when I clicked on "My Account" I ended up on my stuff | 17:21 |
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| sdague | but it was just where it landed me post login was on the url for dhellmann's account | 17:22 |
| sdague | I wonder if there is some over aggressive caching somewhere | 17:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Remove another extraneous get for create_server https://review.openstack.org/240941 | 17:22 |
| mordred | sdague: or - maybe it's trying to remind us all to be more like dhellmann | 17:22 |
| jeblair | sdague: https://openstackid.org/accounts/user/profile looks like me | 17:23 |
| jeblair | for me | 17:23 |
| sdague | jeblair: yeh, https://openstackid.org/accounts/user/profile is right | 17:23 |
| jeblair | sdague: oh, where was it you saw dhellmann's profile? | 17:23 |
| sdague | but it pushed me all the way to https://www.openstack.org/community/members/profile/359 | 17:23 |
| fungi | smarcet: ^ any idea what might cause that? | 17:23 |
| sdague | went to log in | 17:23 |
| jeblair | sdague: where did you initiate the process? | 17:23 |
| jeblair | (i just went to openstackid.org directly) | 17:24 |
| sdague | openstack.org | 17:24 |
| sdague | Login | 17:24 |
| sdague | goes to openstackid.org | 17:24 |
| sdague | fill that out | 17:24 |
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| jeblair | sdague: hrm, that took me right back to the homepage | 17:24 |
| sdague | asked me if I was ok sharing the 4 bits of info from openid with the site (and check boxes for how long) | 17:24 |
| zaro | rcarrillocruz: maybe you can get the slave-master conn info from using python-jenkins? | 17:24 |
| sdague | and after that submitted it landed me at dhellmann's profile page by full url - https://www.openstack.org/community/members/profile/359 | 17:25 |
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| sdague | can't reproduce it now, but I did say my openid is good forever, so it's not giving me that other openstackid sharing page | 17:26 |
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| sdague | yeh, can't reproduce | 17:28 |
| sdague | but it definitely did happen once | 17:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Use current valueName for zuul-stats singlestats https://review.openstack.org/242170 | 17:36 |
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| jlvillal | Could I get a review on patch to have the Ironic grenade job use Ironic Python Agent(IPA) instead of bash ramdisk? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241426/ | 17:44 |
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| afaranha | Hello, my team have developt a CI in ironic, we already have it configured and would ask for the next step, that is to be able to vote in the Verified. | 17:47 |
| afaranha | Our last test was here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226956/ | 17:47 |
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| afaranha | Log here: http://ironic-oneview-ci.lsd.ufcg.edu.br/logs/ufcg_ci/power_and_management/314/ | 17:48 |
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| afaranha | May I have any feedback, if it's ok or missing something? | 17:48 |
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| jeblair | afaranha: you may want to ask the ironic team for that | 17:51 |
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| zaro | announcement: review-dev.openstack.org will be unavailable today. Will be using it for testing. | 17:52 |
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| jeblair | infra-root: ^ see msg from zaro | 17:56 |
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| fungi | thanks for the heads up, zaro! | 17:57 |
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| timrc | Will someone cooler than me please confirm that the gearman-plugin upgraded to 0.1.3 at jenkins-dev? Also, it occurs to me I'm not sure what additional testing I can do between zuul and jenkins re: gearman-client sending zuul node label info and zuul using that information to submit stats using the -dev services. | 18:01 |
| pleia2 | pabelanger: when you're running out of memory on your 8G stackalytics instance, it's server memory, not the $memcached_max_memory that's set at 4G in the config, right? | 18:03 |
| zaro | timrc: puppet has been turned off on jenkins-dev so it won't update. the puppet for has been stale for a while now. i'm in the process of making it good again. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240393/ | 18:03 |
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| asselin | zaro, hi | 18:04 |
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| zaro | asselin: back to reality? | 18:05 |
| asselin | zaro, yes, getting there:) | 18:05 |
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| zaro | asselin: hope the kids didn't cry too much while you were gone | 18:07 |
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| timrc | zaro: Ah cool. | 18:09 |
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| fungi | clarkb: around today/yet? | 18:12 |
| pabelanger | pleia2: right. I needed to bump it up higher to process everything and server up uwsgi | 18:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Update plugins and use files from project_config repo https://review.openstack.org/240393 | 18:12 |
| pleia2 | pabelanger: ok, so $memcached_max_memory is still ok at 4G then | 18:12 |
| pabelanger | pleia2: we could try 16GB first, then resize to 32GB if needed | 18:12 |
| pabelanger | pleia2: right | 18:12 |
| pleia2 | I don't know if we can resize | 18:13 |
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| pleia2 | I think we deploy a new instanc | 18:13 |
| pabelanger | okay | 18:13 |
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| fungi | yeah, resize hasn't been available in rackspace for a while that i've been able to tell | 18:13 |
| pleia2 | pabelanger: maybe we wait to hear from ilyashakhat? | 18:13 |
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| fungi | i think they dropped that feature when they switched off their legacy platform | 18:14 |
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| pabelanger | pleia2: sure. What sizes are available right now? | 18:14 |
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| pleia2 | pabelanger: 8, 15, 30... | 18:15 |
| pleia2 | I'd say 30 and abovie (there's 60 and 90 too) require some team discussion | 18:16 |
| pleia2 | above too | 18:16 |
| pabelanger | Right | 18:16 |
| pleia2 | ah, and 120 | 18:17 |
| pleia2 | but that's probably a bit high :) | 18:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/diskimage-builder: Add missing six requirement for svc-map element https://review.openstack.org/232962 | 18:18 |
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| pleia2 | approved 190765, so once that lands the only things blocking the server launch are deciding on size and setting up email+gerrit account | 18:19 |
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| pabelanger | nice | 18:20 |
| fungi | jeblair: where have you been adding our service-specific e-mail aliases in the past? is that something you'd like help with? should i go rtfm something about it? ;) | 18:20 |
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| fungi | i also expect you've said before and i've failed to commit it to long-term memory^W^W^Wmy notes | 18:21 |
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| lifeless | random idea | 18:25 |
| lifeless | have the pep8 checks annotate the review as comments rather than being a log file one needs to read. | 18:26 |
| lifeless | or as well as | 18:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Create stackalytics.o.o under -infra https://review.openstack.org/190765 | 18:27 |
| clee | lifeless: that'd be pretty cool | 18:27 |
| clee | lifeless: could probably write a small tool to do that from the pep8 logs... | 18:27 |
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| mriedem | mordred: why is it when i see requestsexceptions there is one part of that word that i focus on? | 18:28 |
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| mordred | mriedem: heh | 18:32 |
| fungi | lifeless: it's come up at least once before. i don't recall if there were other reasons it didn't get implemented besides nobody had time to work on it | 18:32 |
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| fungi | also i vaguely recall there might be support in newer gerrit (or maybe it never got completed) to make that easier | 18:33 |
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| jeblair | lifeless: yeah, that's been implemented elsewhere, but since it requires gerrit creds and the job runs on untrusted code on untrusted nodes, there's some non-trivial engineering. a post-run gearman worker could be one solution. | 18:33 |
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| jeblair | fungi, pleia2: stackalytics@o.o delivers to infra-root@o.o (or will in "several minutes" according to the thingy) | 18:35 |
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| mordred | jeblair: woot! | 18:35 |
| pleia2 | jeblair: thank you | 18:35 |
| nibalizer | cool | 18:36 |
| nibalizer | and infra-root@o.o ... does that bounce to us eventually? | 18:37 |
| jeblair | nibalizer: no, it's a mailbox that we have creds for (in the passwords file) | 18:37 |
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| jeblair | nibalizer: did you get inducted into the rites of the passwords file? | 18:37 |
| nibalizer | nope | 18:38 |
| jeblair | nibalizer: let me (or someone) know when you have 15 mins or so :) | 18:38 |
| nibalizer | will do | 18:39 |
| lifeless | jeblair: someone could third party it I guess? | 18:39 |
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| lifeless | jeblair: just look for pep8 comments on new revisions and submit? | 18:39 |
| lifeless | jeblair: Is the done elsewhere code open? | 18:40 |
| glauco__ | Could anybody tell me what are the machine size (cpu, memory) for status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/ and http://health.openstack.org/ | 18:40 |
| jeblair | lifeless: why not first-party that? | 18:40 |
| lifeless | jeblair: that would be preferrable | 18:40 |
| lifeless | jeblair: just speculating | 18:40 |
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| glauco_ | I am currently provisioning machines to have it running downstream and would like to have a clue on what we are using upstream | 18:41 |
| jeblair | glauco_: http://cacti.openstack.org | 18:41 |
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| jeblair | glauco_: status.openstack.org is a vhost on static.openstack.org. it just serves static content. | 18:42 |
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| jeblair | glauco_: er, i'm wrong about that, sorry. it is its own vm. | 18:43 |
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| jeblair | health.o.o is probably oversized. | 18:44 |
| jeblair | looks like it could be a 1gb vm without issue | 18:44 |
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| glauco_ | jeblair: Thank you! :) | 18:45 |
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| jlk | Is there an easy way to add changes to somebody else's existing gerrit change request? | 18:49 |
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| jeblair | jlk: yes, you can download the change, amend the commit, and push it up for review as a new patchset on the existing change | 18:50 |
| jlk | yeah, I'm trying to figure out that workflow. The gerrit options to download the change aren't necessarily setting me up with an easy to use branch | 18:51 |
| jeblair | jlk: or if it's more of a followup enhancement, you can download the change, add a new commit, and push it up -- it will become a new change that depends on the first. | 18:51 |
| jlk | I'm just not clear on what the right steps are | 18:51 |
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| jeblair | jlk: you can do "git review -d 1234" to download the current patchset in change 1234 | 18:51 |
| jlk | do I make a branch first, or...? | 18:51 |
| pabelanger | Am I right thinking that default_data.json from stackalytics would be moved into project-config? | 18:51 |
| jeblair | jlk: git-review will make a branch for you | 18:51 |
| pabelanger | think somebody requested that | 18:52 |
| jlk | okay | 18:52 |
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| jlk | awesome. i was trying ot use the download links that generate command strings to copy/paste from the review page | 18:53 |
| jlk | thanks jeblair | 18:53 |
| jeblair | jlk: np. then 'git review' should dtrt after you 'git commit --amend' | 18:53 |
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| jlk | nod | 18:53 |
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| krotscheck | Is anyone from infra....core? root? available either today or tomorrow to help me with the mirror rename and switchover? | 19:08 |
| krotscheck | Also, this seems like a thing we should send an email out about. | 19:09 |
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| krotscheck | ...or maybe not? Technically no-one's supposed to be using our mirrors. | 19:09 |
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| asselin | clarkb, nibalizer would be good to find a time to merge these and avoid future merge conflicts ^^ | 19:14 |
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| jeblair | fungi, mordred, clarkb, timrc, jlk: i updated https://www.ethercalc.org/wzvk5pjvuu | 19:26 |
| jeblair | i added standard deviation for tempest times | 19:26 |
| jeblair | i've run 10 jobs at once, 10 jobs at once, 1 job at once, 5 jobs at once, and then 5 jobs staggered with 5 more jobs 30 minutes apart | 19:26 |
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| jeblair | er one of those 10s was supposed to be 20 | 19:27 |
| mordred | jeblair: so - bluebox seems pretty stable | 19:27 |
| jeblair | one at a time or 5 at once shows very low standard deviation | 19:27 |
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| jeblair | but 10 or 20 at once shows rather high sd (2x from 5->10, and 2x again from 10->20) | 19:28 |
| jeblair | 5+5 staggered is low sd, just like 5 at a time | 19:28 |
| jeblair | which makes me think that during the tempest phase, we're hitting a resource limitation with > 5 jobs running tempest at the same time. | 19:29 |
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| mordred | oh - I see that now | 19:30 |
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| mordred | well - there are 5 compute nodes currently | 19:30 |
| mordred | so > 5 is going to be more than one thing running on a compute node at a time | 19:30 |
| jeblair | mordred: yep | 19:30 |
| mordred | right? | 19:30 |
| jeblair | mordred: however, if you look at the detailed runs at the bottom, you'll find that it's not a straightforward relationship... | 19:31 |
| mordred | blast | 19:32 |
| jeblair | mordred: eg 5997, 5999, 6004 all ran on the same host at the same time. 97 was fast, the others slow. | 19:32 |
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| jlk | are these jobs heavy I/O? | 19:33 |
| jlk | lots of disk? | 19:33 |
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| jlk | all the VMs are on a single local raid I believe, so there could be contention for read/write | 19:33 |
| jeblair | they may be | 19:34 |
| * jlk wonders what would happen if you made the instances with LOTS of ram and used tmpfs | 19:34 | |
| nibalizer | asselin: krotscheck I want to work on other stuff today, so I can't help you deploy your things, but next week after the ES upgrade I can help | 19:34 |
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| jlk | I don't believe these are SSDs, but I could be wrong. | 19:34 |
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| jeblair | perhaps in the case i highlighted, the first job ran slightly faster and only the 2nd and 3rd jobs were in contention. | 19:35 |
| jlk | also | 19:36 |
| jeblair | timrc said he didn't see much io activity, but it may be very bursty and he may not have looked at just the right time | 19:36 |
| jlk | are you using any scheduler hints, like group antiaffinnity to spread the instances out as much as possible? | 19:36 |
| jeblair | jlk: that seems to be happening without us doing anything special | 19:36 |
| jlk | true, I think scheduler tries to spread. I think this stack has dedicated controllers so those don't come into play | 19:37 |
| jeblair | yeah, i think thats what ds0001 and 2 are | 19:37 |
| jlk | (I've seen scheduler lay instances on "compute" only nodes more frequently than compute + control so you wind up stacking a lot of instances on a dedicated compute node) | 19:37 |
| fungi | krotscheck: well, we can keep legacy cnames as serveralias additions in the vhost definition to provide us with some seamless transitioning | 19:38 |
| fungi | krotscheck: was there a transition plan sketched out for the renaming? | 19:38 |
| jlk | another thought, how network heavy is tempest? All traffic does go through neutron routing | 19:38 |
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| krotscheck | fungi: I can come up with one, sec. | 19:38 |
| * krotscheck goes and puts his brain on paper | 19:38 | |
| fungi | krotscheck: even just a summary of what we wanted done would probably be plenty | 19:39 |
| jeblair | jlk: should be very light -- the network activity should all be in the setup phase before tempest runs | 19:39 |
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| jeblair | jlk: what kind of raid structure? | 19:39 |
| jlk | alright | 19:39 |
| jlk | jeblair: I'm trying to discover that now | 19:39 |
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| krotscheck | fungi, jeblair, clarkb, mordred: Sanity check? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pypi-mirror-rename | 19:46 |
| jeblair | jlk: i pulled a dstat log from one of the recent runs... it looks like there are a handful of times when iowait is significant (20-50%) and it's trying to write 50-200M/s | 19:46 |
| jeblair | jlk: i don't have that for any of the previous runs, but i could repeat a 10 or 20 job run, and see if, on the jobs that are slow, the times of io contention match. | 19:47 |
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| jeblair | but just looking at those figures, if we're talking a small number of spinning disks, it does seem reasonable that ~1 job could max it out during those peak times. | 19:48 |
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| krotscheck | fungi: I've WIP'd the various dependent patches so we can make sure things don't land out of control. | 19:49 |
| jlk | jeblair: sounds about right | 19:50 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: i left my sanity in my other pants, but looks reasonable. one snag though, it would be nice to tackle the wheel mirror patches as a higher priority since those have a significant performance implication for lots of our jobs, and then make sure this rename work takes any adjustments from that into account | 19:53 |
| jeblair | jlk: i'll kick off another set of 10 over lunch and see if this holds up | 19:53 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: i'm in the midst of going over 165240 and 164927 to that end now | 19:54 |
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| krotscheck | fungi: Lemme go research wheels, will get back to you. From an initial look i agree. | 19:55 |
| mordred | krotscheck: looking | 19:56 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: lgtm | 19:57 |
| jeblair | fungi, mordred: did we ever come to a conclusion about whether/how we should rename the <region> portion of the mirrors? | 19:57 |
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| fungi | i liked the mirror.region.provider.openstack.org option | 19:58 |
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| fungi | or perhaps region.provider.mirror.openstack.org even | 19:58 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: oh, we're missing a step.. etherpadding | 19:58 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: danke | 19:59 |
| jeblair | steps 7 and 8 need to happen before 238755 lands, so that the hosts know their new name in puppet before we remove the old one | 20:00 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: Coolio, I removed the unaccounted for steps that I didn't know where to put. | 20:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Filter non-voting jobs from the uncategorized bugs page https://review.openstack.org/242207 | 20:07 |
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| fungi | greghaynes: a few comments/questions on 164927, some probably just due to the change being reawakened after a long slumber | 20:11 |
| fungi | greghaynes: my main concern is i don't think the subtree for centos 7 is going to be correct | 20:11 |
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| fungi | greghaynes: and on 165240 i think we're missing the ssh key necessary to be able to rsync, unless i'm just blind | 20:16 |
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| fungi | greghaynes: ianw: if one of you can knock that missing piece out, i'm happy to go ahead and launch those machines | 20:17 |
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| fungi | clarkb: around? i'm trying to put together a maintenance notification for the pending project rename batch, but would like to make sure i pick a time convenient for you | 20:20 |
| fungi | we never finalized the scheduling before we ran out of time in tuesday's meeting | 20:21 |
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| krotscheck | Yeah, I don't quite understand how this works. I totally get why we want a wheel-mirror though. | 20:23 |
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| krotscheck | Though, is this a thing that bandersnatch can do? Maybe I'm not understanding it properly :/ | 20:24 |
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| krotscheck | Oh, now I get it. | 20:26 |
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| krotscheck | fungi: Does having a wheel-mirror obsolete a pypi mirror? | 20:30 |
| krotscheck | I konw it's a restricted set of deps in the wheel mirror, but assumably it will (eventually) grow to include more than just global requirements. | 20:31 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: it doesn't completely obsolete the bandersnatch-built mirror, it just shortcuts the local wheel building step in a job for anything which is directly or indirectly declared as a possible openstack dependency in our global requirements list | 20:37 |
| fungi | basically it's augmenting the mirror with wheels in cases where our dependencies' upstreams are only publishing sdist tarballs (or publishing wheels for other platforms than we need) | 20:38 |
| greghaynes | fungi: ah, good finds on those pypi mirror patches | 20:38 |
| lifeless | its bringing back something we had :) | 20:38 |
| fungi | more or less, yes | 20:38 |
| lifeless | pypi-mirror mk 2 | 20:39 |
| greghaynes | We need to make pypi-mirror support constraints, too | 20:39 |
| fungi | greghaynes: yeah, this could probably be better done by passing the upper-constraints.txt rather than global-requirements.txt | 20:39 |
| fungi | i don't know there's that much effort needed to "support" constraints in pypi-mirror | 20:40 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: well, just feed it the constraints text file | 20:40 |
| fungi | yeah, what he said ;_ | 20:40 |
| lifeless | fungi: zero, pip wheel -r upper-constraints.txt -> a mirror for that python version on that architecture on that os | 20:40 |
| greghaynes | sweet | 20:41 |
| lifeless | blah. lets all sing in hymn now | 20:41 |
| fungi | heh | 20:41 |
| lifeless | pypi-mirror's shenanigans should be unneeded | 20:41 |
| fungi | krotscheck: as for your mirror rename work, basically i think the only additional consideration is that we're adding references to the list of mirror server names in a few more places. perhaps that can be extracted out to avoid so much duplication as well | 20:41 |
| greghaynes | upper-constraints is a list of all the deps + transitive deps? | 20:42 |
| fungi | greghaynes: yep | 20:42 |
| fungi | pre-resolved to the compatible set | 20:42 |
| greghaynes | Yea, thats easy enough then | 20:42 |
| sdague | greghaynes: just loop it for all branches | 20:42 |
| fungi | right, that | 20:43 |
| lifeless | we'll also want release-constraints.txt when that appears | 20:43 |
| lifeless | you may as well check for that file in each branch too | 20:43 |
| lifeless | since you're writing code :) | 20:43 |
| sdague | that seems like it could be added after it exists | 20:43 |
| greghaynes | fun. I think I might need to make this a script rather than inline bash in jjb | 20:43 |
| fungi | and as lifeless says, we can just call pip wheel on that file directly now rather than pypi-mirror, presumably | 20:43 |
| lifeless | yup | 20:43 |
| lifeless | fungi: ^ | 20:43 |
| sdague | greghaynes: well if you look at my reverted thing | 20:44 |
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| sdague | it has the loop | 20:44 |
| greghaynes | sdague: ah, right | 20:44 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241692/3/nodepool/elements/cache-devstack/install.d/60-pip-warm-cache,cm | 20:44 |
| fungi | right, i would lift the loop and git show logic from there and make sdague a co-author | 20:44 |
| lifeless | sdague: I don't see much point forcing a revisit-later is all | 20:45 |
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| fungi | that git show to stream a file from an arbitrary ref without altering the worktree is an awesomely useful trick | 20:45 |
| lifeless | sdague: unless you think release-constraints.tct is unlikely to happen... | 20:45 |
| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Make sure cache expiration time is an int https://review.openstack.org/242214 | 20:46 |
| sdague | lifeless: it's not there yet, so it's debt to support it. Maybe it shows up, maybe it doesn't. But premptively putting stuff like that in place often bites us when we go a different direction, and no one knows why it's there a year later, so is afraid to remove it | 20:46 |
| Shrews | mordred: you'll need to rebase the ironicclient change on 242214 | 20:46 |
| anteaya | HenryG: thanks for your patience | 20:46 |
| mordred | Shrews: ++ | 20:47 |
| Shrews | actually, i guess *all* unmerged reviews need to do that now | 20:48 |
| Shrews | :( | 20:48 |
| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Summit Application API https://review.openstack.org/221964 | 20:50 |
| krotscheck | Well, if you say so. I personally feel that having One Mirror To Rule Them All would be preferable, but maybe teaching bandersnatch to do wheel builds is too complicated (or maybe not even possible) | 20:51 |
| * krotscheck doesn't quite understand the wackiness of python packaging. | 20:51 | |
| anteaya | nobody understands the wackiness of python packaging | 20:52 |
| Clint | now featuring increased wackiness through the magic of wheels | 20:52 |
| sdague | so the one wheel question | 20:52 |
| sdague | how are the numpy wheels going to work cross distro? | 20:52 |
| fungi | krotscheck: wheel builds would be a huge addition to what bandersnatch does now. it's design is to attempt to duplicate what's on official pypi.python.org by sequencing serialized updates | 20:52 |
| sdague | because I thought that wasn't a thing with wheels and linux | 20:52 |
| fungi | sdague: they're not. this work adds per-distro builders and syncs them into the distro-specific wheel subtrees on the mirror servers | 20:53 |
| greghaynes | sdague: pypi-mirror builds a wheelhouse per distro | 20:53 |
| sdague | ok, and pip knows to ask for the right distro? | 20:53 |
| greghaynes | sdague: We point each distro at the correct URL | 20:53 |
| greghaynes | I think... | 20:53 |
| fungi | sdague: i am told that is the case, but i'll defer to people who have actually tested it themselves | 20:53 |
| fungi | oh, or that (configurationy goodness?) | 20:54 |
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| greghaynes | hrm, that would be nice if it did. In tripleo I just pointed it at the correct place | 20:54 |
| fungi | yeah, would be good to have this interaction documented | 20:54 |
| sdague | as long as someone is on it, I just figured I'd ask | 20:54 |
| mordred | yeah. we'll have to point at the right mirror | 20:55 |
| sdague | you know, this is a place where the lsb would totally be a thing. | 20:55 |
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| sdague | because almost all of these are linking pretty low level libraries | 20:55 |
| mordred | because the ultimatle problem with binary whees is the linking | 20:55 |
| mordred | yeah | 20:55 |
| mordred | so just saying "this is a python2.7 wheel" is not good enough | 20:55 |
| sdague | yeh | 20:55 |
| sdague | because of abi | 20:55 |
| mordred | yup | 20:55 |
| greghaynes | Yep, we basically cheat and know exactly what were making wheels for | 20:55 |
| mordred | but - lucky for us - we really only have a few base images | 20:55 |
| mordred | yup | 20:56 |
| mordred | this iactually only work in situations like ours | 20:56 |
| mordred | and is why uploading binary wheels to pypi for things build with C is a bad idea | 20:56 |
| fungi | oh, except also debian is officially abandoning caring about lsb at this point, based on a recent debian-devel thread. the consensus seems to be that the lsb is dead and nobody has realized it should be buried yet | 20:56 |
| mordred | yah | 20:57 |
| fungi | so up to this point people have just been kicking dirt on top of it to see if it twitches | 20:57 |
| mordred | main thing I want from lsb is the lsb_release tool | 20:57 |
| lifeless | krotscheck: bandersnatch can't build or host wheels, its architecture is just fundamentally incompatible | 20:58 |
| mordred | which is useful | 20:58 |
| Clint | lsb_release isn't going away | 20:58 |
| mordred | Clint: awesome | 20:58 |
| lifeless | sdague: numpy - as I said the mirror you get is os + arch + python version specific | 20:58 |
| mordred | Clint: can we get RH to install it by default in their minimal installs? | 20:58 |
| lifeless | sdague: so we need to build N mirrors, and point at them smartly | 20:58 |
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| mordred | lifeless: yup. we has just covered this | 20:58 |
| lifeless | mordred: ebackscroll catchup | 20:58 |
| fungi | yeah, as long as lsb_release continues to be a thing (by some name, but would be swell if nobody renamed it for purely aesthetic reasons) i'm happy. i too could care less about the lsb itself | 20:59 |
| lifeless | fungi: I believe the new shiny is /etc/os-release | 20:59 |
| * fungi sighs | 20:59 | |
| mordred | oh. what's that? | 20:59 |
| lifeless | fungi: because people hate stable interfaces | 20:59 |
| sdague | fungi: well, all of qt being in lsb at an old version is kind of bonkers | 20:59 |
| mordred | oh! llookie there | 20:59 |
| fungi | all hail the new inconsistent consistency in naming overlords | 20:59 |
| mordred | ZOMG | 20:59 |
| mordred | /etc/os-release is pretty cool | 20:59 |
| lifeless | I think we should add a unified bindep file to requirements | 21:00 |
| mordred | fungi: it's on all of our platforms | 21:01 |
| mordred | fungi: I propose we ditch all of the places where we lsb_release or other thigns and consume os-release | 21:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Sridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add tacker pypi jobs https://review.openstack.org/235602 | 21:01 |
| fungi | lifeless: something along the lines of http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/data/bindep-fallback.txt maybe | 21:01 |
| lifeless | fungi: yes | 21:01 |
| lifeless | fungi: I'm thinking thats the wrong home for it | 21:01 |
| Clint | and mordred embraces systemd | 21:01 |
| fungi | lifeless: i'm happy to see it move, but soon. i don't expect to have the jobs consuming that be experimental for much longer | 21:02 |
| lifeless | vale mordred | 21:02 |
| mordred | Clint: is that a systemd thing? | 21:02 |
| Clint | mordred: yup | 21:02 |
| mordred | if so - it's a good thing | 21:02 |
| mordred | regardless of its source | 21:02 |
| mordred | so good for them for doing a good thing | 21:02 |
| fungi | good things do come of systemd | 21:02 |
| lifeless | fungi: I can't +2A on stable requirements, but I will on master :) | 21:02 |
| mordred | well, I don't hate systemd because I hate people - I hate it because it largely sucks - it's judged on technical merits | 21:02 |
| mordred | on technical merits, os-release is good | 21:03 |
| mordred | so I like it | 21:03 |
| clarkb | fungi I am just waking up. the jet lag is real | 21:03 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: wow | 21:03 |
| mordred | if other parts of systemd were good, I would like them | 21:03 |
| mordred | clarkb: I had a bad jetlag today too | 21:03 |
| mordred | clarkb: but the opposite | 21:03 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: its ok, I started working at 4am today | 21:03 |
| fungi | lifeless: well, the challenge is that this file is branchless. it sits a step above branching decisions currently because it's the unified set of what all jobs for all branches expect to be preinstalled | 21:03 |
| mordred | clarkb: I woke up at 25:30 | 21:03 |
| sdague | mordred: journalctrl is pretty neat | 21:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Tony Breeds proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Enable logging in #openstack-ux https://review.openstack.org/241821 | 21:03 |
| nibalizer | mordred: ... thats an interesting time | 21:03 |
| lifeless | fungi: I don't see a problem keeping master as that union | 21:04 |
| lifeless | fungi: since master requirements has the things that branchless tempest needs, for instance | 21:04 |
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| fungi | lifeless: yeah, it may make sense to just care about the master version of it and let the stable branches of that file bitrot (or delete them after branching to avoid confusion) | 21:04 |
| lifeless | fungi: and we're more worried about consistency and coinstallability than surface area | 21:04 |
| lifeless | when stable is made | 21:05 |
| clarkb | fungi in theory 8/9am is plenty fine for me and I will just power through jetlag | 21:05 |
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| fungi | clarkb: i'm happy to shift it later if that's better for your lag | 21:06 |
| clarkb | fungi noon pst (2000utc) is probably a safe timr | 21:06 |
| fungi | clarkb: and did we decide for sure tomorrow vs saturday? | 21:06 |
| fungi | i'm up for either, but don't want to cut into your weekend | 21:07 |
| jeblair | do irc pings report jetlag? | 21:07 |
| fungi | they totally should | 21:07 |
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| fungi | "local timezone offset: X; effective timezone offset: Y" | 21:08 |
| fungi | i'm physically in utc-5 but thanks to jetlag effectively operating on utc-8 | 21:08 |
| fungi | if people still relied on finger, i'd totally track my lagged timezone offset in my .plan file | 21:09 |
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| ruagair | o/ | 21:09 |
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| docaedo | people don't rely on finger any more? when did this happen? | 21:10 |
| fungi | docaedo: about the same time they stopped posting to usenet, i think | 21:11 |
| fungi | (so depends entirely on which people) | 21:11 |
| jeblair | wow, even gnu.org doesn't answer finger :( | 21:11 |
| docaedo | Well, we'll always have IRC right? At least until we switch to slack ;) | 21:11 |
| docaedo | (kidding! I'm kidding!) | 21:11 |
| fungi | cthulhu.yuggoth.org does, because i'm a greybearded luddite | 21:12 |
| jeblair | docaedo: i hear some teams are ditching slack for irc | 21:12 |
| Clint | docaedo: there is that microblogging platform that runs over finger | 21:12 |
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| lifeless | fungi: huh | 21:13 |
| docaedo | microblogging over finger seems reasonable to me | 21:13 |
| clarkb | fungi I never saw definitive tomorrow vs saturday | 21:14 |
| clarkb | both work for me | 21:14 |
| jeblair | clarkb: do it late enough you can do both | 21:14 |
| clarkb | ha | 21:14 |
| clarkb | I will probably be awake :) | 21:14 |
| fungi | hah. saturday for me, friday for clarkb. perfect! | 21:14 |
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| mordred | jeblair, fungi, clarkb: perhaps we should run a finger service for openstack ... | 21:15 |
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| fungi | finger interface for openstackid.org. that could be the lookup api i'm wanting! | 21:15 |
| greghaynes | Why didnt the keystone catalog reworking session end up with a finger-based design | 21:16 |
| docaedo | greghaynes: there's always Austin - time to start campaigning now! | 21:16 |
| fungi | greghaynes: because dns is even greybeardier | 21:16 |
| Clint | forcing people to open up 79/tcp | 21:16 |
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| * mordred still wants hesiod for openstack ... | 21:17 | |
| fungi | greghaynes: also remember there's the regularly occurring suggestion to switch to smtp and imap for the message bus | 21:17 |
| mordred | smtp/imap++ | 21:17 |
| fungi | or perhaps smpt and pop3 | 21:17 |
| greghaynes | haha | 21:18 |
| fungi | bleagh, smTP | 21:18 |
| mordred | nah - imap shared folders make the message semantics pretty directly awesome | 21:18 |
| fungi | symmetrical multi-processing thing | 21:18 |
| mordred | given that shared folders have per-user seen flags already | 21:18 |
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| ddieter__ | can we get someone to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240600/ | 21:20 |
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| lifeless | oh | 21:24 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: fungi: for dependencies for building | 21:24 |
| lifeless | there is already a other-requirements.txt in openstack/requirements | 21:24 |
| fungi | oh! | 21:24 |
| lifeless | so you should be able to just call bindep within each branch | 21:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Bump ironicclient depend https://review.openstack.org/240628 | 21:24 |
| fungi | i missed that was there | 21:24 |
| greghaynes | awesome | 21:24 |
| lifeless | its missing e.g. ant | 21:24 |
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| lifeless | but thats in the category of other stuff | 21:25 |
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| lifeless | krotscheck: did you end up with a centralised place for js dependencies ? | 21:26 |
| Clint | docaedo: for the record, https://github.com/thimbl | 21:26 |
| docaedo | Clint: nice, thanks! | 21:27 |
| greghaynes | sdague: fungi actually, I think pypi-mirror builds wheels for all the branches already | 21:27 |
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| fungi | greghaynes: pypi-mirror does yes, but if replacing it with pip wheel -r upper-constraints.txt in a loop over branches works, that's a lot simpler than maintaining pypi-mirror | 21:29 |
| anteaya | fungi clarkb so my take away is that the rename takes place over friday and saturday? | 21:29 |
| lifeless | fungi: so I am torn over moving the fallbac to requirements | 21:30 |
| lifeless | fungi: if we're going to put arbitrary language things in one place, we should; but if different language policies are going to be in different repos | 21:30 |
| fungi | anteaya: no, i'm about to confirm 29:00 utc with clarkb and send a short-notice announcement | 21:30 |
| lifeless | fungi: then it doesn't make such sense to me | 21:30 |
| lifeless | fungi: do you know what the situation is with the equivalent of global-requirements for js ? | 21:30 |
| clarkb | fungi where did the 5 extra hours come from? :) | 21:30 |
| anteaya | fungi: ah thank you | 21:30 |
| lifeless | fungi: (or is it perhaps a non-thing?) | 21:31 |
| fungi | lifeless: yeah, that bindep fallback list is meant to be more of a transitional mechanism while various projects independently implement their own more specific other-requirements.txt files | 21:31 |
| anteaya | clarkb: 4th or 5th dimension | 21:31 |
| lifeless | ok, I'll scratch this then | 21:31 |
| * anteaya is reminded of buckaroo banzai and the 8th dimension | 21:31 | |
| fungi | lifeless: so i needed something to mimic the set of packages installed on our old "bare" job workers in situations where a repo didn't specify its own set of packages | 21:32 |
| fungi | anteaya: we're going to planet 10 real soon | 21:32 |
| fungi | i promise | 21:32 |
| anteaya | fungi: oh goodie | 21:32 |
| jeblair | i think we should go to 11 | 21:32 |
| fungi | clarkb: the extra hours came from my 9 key being next to my 0 and not noticing | 21:33 |
| fungi | 20:00 utc is what i meant ;) | 21:33 |
| anteaya | fungi clarkb here is the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/project-renames-November-6-2015 | 21:33 |
| jeblair | it's like planet 10 but just a little bit more | 21:33 |
| anteaya | fungi clarkb whenever you do the rename | 21:33 |
| anteaya | jeblair: even better | 21:33 |
| clarkb | 2000utc sounds good | 21:33 |
| krotscheck | lifeless: Not yet. | 21:33 |
| krotscheck | lifeless: It's on my rather long todo list | 21:34 |
| anteaya | fungi clarkb one patch is still under discussion, I'll leave it to you to do with what you will, the bagpipe patch | 21:34 |
| lifeless | fungi: it occurs to me that devstack could potentially use such files rather than procedural code | 21:34 |
| * fungi hopes eris is planet xi | 21:34 | |
| anteaya | me too | 21:34 |
| fungi | lifeless: yep, that's already on my unwritten roadmap for after this is working for non-devstack jobs | 21:35 |
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| lifeless | fungi: so in about 12 months.. | 21:35 |
| anteaya | fungi: who do you have as ten? | 21:35 |
| * anteaya has orcus | 21:35 | |
| lifeless | fungi: given you entered the 'abandon all code ye who enter here' portal | 21:35 |
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| fungi | lifeless: the current bindep caching code in our dib elements was written on the assumption that it would be able to at some point take over the package caching part of our devstack caching element | 21:36 |
| fungi | so hopefully the bulk of the work will just be translating devstack's package lists into bindepese | 21:37 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: do we want projects to create new repos for the tempest tests for their plugin? | 21:37 |
| anteaya | this could expand very fast | 21:38 |
| fungi | anteaya: yeah, i guess we could count eris as planet x and orcus as planet xi (given that the others don't sound as cool) | 21:38 |
| anteaya | fungi: fair enough | 21:39 |
| fungi | sedna comes close to being a cool name though | 21:39 |
| anteaya | I do like sedna | 21:39 |
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| krotscheck | fungi: So, you'd prefer it if the wheel thing lands before my mirror changes? | 21:39 |
| anteaya | I think eris moves slow, then I think of sedna | 21:39 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: that's the order i'd like to batch them up in. i'm hoping we can have this all knocked out in short order | 21:40 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Alrightey, just let me know when you're ready for the rename fixes | 21:40 |
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| fungi | the wheel mirror stuff has been hanging out there a long time, and recent activities have reminded us that having it in place rsn would be a big benefit | 21:40 |
| fungi | and since both efforts touch the same space, we need to consider ordering | 21:41 |
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| fungi | i'm reminded that one of us also needs to fix the etherpad from the py3k discussion in tokyo. i'll put that on my don't forget list for tomorrow | 21:43 |
| sridhar_ram | infra-team - I think I finally got the pypi lines correct for the tacker repos - https://review.openstack.org/235602. anyone got some cycles to review ? | 21:43 |
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| anteaya | sridhar_ram: tacker is not listed in the governance repo: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/projects.yaml | 21:45 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: I do believe current doc publishing policy is that only those projects listed in goverance publish docs to docs.openstack.org | 21:46 |
| jeblair | i'm not sure what to make of the dstat output that regularly has 16E for 1 second in networking send and receive. maybe a counter overflow? | 21:46 |
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| anteaya | sridhar_ram: am I missing something? | 21:46 |
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| sridhar_ram | anteaya: yes, we are not yet in the tent.. | 21:46 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: okay so my latest understanding is that you can't publish to docs.openstack.org until after you are in the tent | 21:47 |
| * anteaya waits for someone to correct her if this has changed | 21:47 | |
| anteaya | publishing to pypi is fine | 21:47 |
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| * jeblair does not correct anteaya who is already correct | 21:47 | |
| anteaya | but your jobs also have you publishing to docs.o.o | 21:48 |
| anteaya | jeblair: thanks | 21:48 |
| sridhar_ram | anteaya: I didn't realize docs are restricted to governance projects.. | 21:48 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: docs to docs.o.o are yes | 21:48 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: most projects not in the governance repo publish to rtds | 21:48 |
| sridhar_ram | anteaya: I'll remove the docs.o.o | 21:49 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: https://readthedocs.org/ | 21:49 |
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| sridhar_ram | anteaya: I still wish ecosystem projects can publish to a slightly different namespace like docs.o.o/experimental/ | 21:49 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: thanks you can replace it with publishing to read the docs | 21:49 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: that is a fine wish, but that is a policy decision | 21:49 |
| sridhar_ram | anteaya: understood... | 21:50 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: I can't make a policy decision when I review your patch | 21:50 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: you can start with a chat with the docs team | 21:50 |
| sridhar_ram | anteaya: no worries at all.. will reach out to docs team | 21:50 |
| anteaya | thanks | 21:50 |
| sridhar_ram | anteaya: meanwhile .. are there any cookie cutter steps to push to rtds ? | 21:51 |
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| anteaya | sridhar_ram: if you look at the distill project: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n4401 | 21:53 |
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| anteaya | sridhar_ram: sorry it is called distil, one l: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/jobs/projects.yaml#n1050 | 21:54 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: copy their docs job configuration in a new patch and we will go from there | 21:55 |
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| anteaya | for the doc publishing, your pypi publishing is fine, given you are on pypi | 21:55 |
| sridhar_ram | anteaya: thanks... I just went back and looked to realize I already have hook-{name}-rtfd (in projects.yaml) and docs-on-rtfd !! | 21:55 |
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| sridhar_ram | anteaya: now, what would trigger the publish to rtfd ? where will it end up ? | 21:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add tacker pypi jobs https://review.openstack.org/235602 | 21:58 |
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| fungi | sridhar_ram: you have to create the project on rtfd and set it to track your git repository. it will periodically pull, build and update your project's docs on its own (daily i think?) but that hook job triggers an immediate rebuild whenever a change merges to your repo | 22:00 |
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| clarkb | catching up on the jjb situation all but 02 updated properly. 02 ran into a 502 error so I am restarting there to make sure its all happy | 22:03 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: ack | 22:03 |
| ddieterly | fungi: do we need to do something to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240600/ reviewed? | 22:03 |
| anteaya | though I am clueless as to the _current_ jjb situation | 22:03 |
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| sridhar_ram | fungi: thanks.. rftd --> our git repo make sense but how abt this other way around .. our hook job trigger --> rtfd. how will our job would know where to push ? the reason I ask is.. http://tacker.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ is already take up by another project | 22:03 |
| clarkb | anteaya: its the same thing, I used the wrong cache | 22:03 |
| clarkb | so just need to make sure that 02 runs properly so its cache is all happy and all the jobs are updated | 22:04 |
| sridhar_ram | sridhar_ram: fungi: I need to find a new home for tacker docs in rtfd | 22:04 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: ah | 22:05 |
| anteaya | clarkb: yup | 22:05 |
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| greghaynes | fungi: do you have the mirror fqdn for ovh gra1 handy? | 22:12 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: sorry I said copy the rtfd docs jobs in a new patch, I mean a new patchset on your current patch | 22:12 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: don't make a brand new patch | 22:12 |
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| fungi | greghaynes: currently pypi.gra1.openstack.org | 22:14 |
| greghaynes | fungi: ty | 22:14 |
| sridhar_ram | anteaya: sounds good.. in fact I already have rtfd entries for this project http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/jobs/projects.yaml#n6685 | 22:14 |
| anteaya | great | 22:15 |
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| greghaynes | fungi: Also, I dont have any strong feeling about whether or not we add fedora and centos6 wheel builders... | 22:16 |
| greghaynes | not sure if anyone has any ideas about that | 22:16 |
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| fungi | greghaynes: yeah, it's an optional improvement, not necessary day 1 | 22:16 |
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| fungi | and possibly not necessary at all given the tradeoffs | 22:16 |
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| greghaynes | Yea, SGTM | 22:16 |
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| jhesketh | Morning | 22:17 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create jobs for a wheel mirror https://review.openstack.org/164927 | 22:17 |
| anteaya | jhesketh: morning | 22:17 |
| greghaynes | fungi: ^ ok, switched it to just be bash doing pip wheel -r upper-constraints | 22:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Sridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add tacker pypi jobs https://review.openstack.org/235602 | 22:18 |
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| sridhar_ram | anteaya: thanks a lot for your help... I just updated the patchset removing docs.o.o lines | 22:19 |
| anteaya | okay | 22:19 |
| sridhar_ram | anteaya: fungi: I also pulled the docs (manually) into http://tacker-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 22:20 |
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| sridhar_ram | anteaya: fungi: last missing piece (in my head) is how hook-rtfd/docs-on-rtfd would know to push to this specific rtfd URL | 22:21 |
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| clarkb | jesusaurus: about to have some comments on the range code but overall lgtm | 22:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add wheel_mirror_slaves that use pypi-mirror https://review.openstack.org/165240 | 22:24 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: cool | 22:24 |
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| clarkb | jesusaurus: and posted | 22:25 |
| clarkb | also yay tests | 22:25 |
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| anteaya | bardia: thank you for reviewing the openstackci docs patch | 22:27 |
| clarkb | crinkle: ++ to using apache's built in version switching | 22:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE: test config for gate-tempest-dsvm-cells-neutron https://review.openstack.org/235485 | 22:27 |
| clarkb | now to write a response | 22:27 |
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| crinkle | clarkb: :) | 22:27 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: you know I don't know the answer to that question | 22:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Make sure cache expiration time is an int https://review.openstack.org/242214 | 22:28 |
| bardia | anteaya: no problem. still going through the whole README and setting up as I go. I will add more comments if any steps are ambiguous. So far its been good | 22:28 |
| asselin | bardia, Hi, I'm working on the next patch set for those docs. | 22:29 |
| anteaya | yay so glad the two of you can meet, asselin and bardia | 22:29 |
| asselin | bardia, doing a clean setup for zaro's gerrit test. Let me know of any issues and I'll incorporate. | 22:29 |
| bardia | asselin: Hi. okie dok. I will let you know. | 22:30 |
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| sridhar_ram | anteaya: no worries.. getting pypi is an urgent need for us. I'm happy we have the docs publishable thru rtfd. Auto push to rtfd is not urgent. | 22:31 |
| sridhar_ram | anteaya: thanks again for the guidance | 22:31 |
| zaro | asselin: review-dev.o.o down for testing today. | 22:31 |
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| asselin | zaro, ok when I'm ready to test it, I'll let you know | 22:32 |
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| anteaya | sridhar_ram: welcome, I am now into errands for a conf I need to travel to tomorrow so will get back to your patch when I have laundry going etc. | 22:33 |
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| sridhar_ram | anteaya: np... travel is hard, glad the summit is over... looks not for you. take care | 22:34 |
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| anteaya | sridhar_ram: thanks for understanding | 22:46 |
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| jesusaurus | clarkb: thanks, that remainder suggestion definitely makes it a bit simpler | 22:57 |
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| jesusaurus | clarkb: I hadn't thought of a client trying to set Range to bytes=- but I think that should cause either a 400 or possibly a 416 (range not satisfiable) | 22:58 |
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| clarkb | jesusaurus: also if you do bytes=400 the split will return 400 for start and end will raise an Index exception | 23:00 |
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| clarkb | I don't think thats valid according ot the rfc so returning a 500 error (which is what will happen) should be ok | 23:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Bump ironicclient depend https://review.openstack.org/240628 | 23:01 |
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| jesusaurus | clarkb: yeah, 500 is acceptable in both cases, but a 4xx might be better | 23:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/project-config-example: Fix doc error for PUBLISH_HOST https://review.openstack.org/242249 | 23:03 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: miht be good to add a couple fail cases to the tests too? | 23:04 |
| clarkb | and assert raises so that we know it will raise an exception? | 23:04 |
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| jesusaurus | yeah | 23:05 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, fungi, jlk, mordred: i've looked in detail at dstat from 3 runs on the same compute host; one fast, two slow. i don't think io contention is the exclusive or even dominant cause of the difference. they all run ansible and testr at nearly the same time (which i take to be the start of tempest), but by the time the first section of heavy io happens, the slower runs are 3 minutes behind. | 23:11 |
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| jeblair | however, i can't think of any other likely causes. | 23:13 |
| clarkb | I wonder if the CPU turboing could actually be at play here | 23:13 |
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| clarkb | though according to ARK the max turbo frequency isn't very dramatic over the base | 23:14 |
| jeblair | clarkb: uhoh, i'm guessing this isn't that little button on the front of the machine that makes games work right... | 23:15 |
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| clarkb | no, newer intel CPUs dynamically adjust their clock to "turbo" based on thermal output and load | 23:15 |
| clarkb | its all very magical and I am not sure how much control linux or the user have over it | 23:15 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: what about different cores or different dies? | 23:16 |
| clarkb | http://ark.intel.com/products/53675/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-4820-18M-Cache-2_00-GHz-5_86-GTs-Intel-QPI is the CPUs ark page | 23:17 |
| jeblair | clarkb: (since we're seeing differing performance on a single host) | 23:17 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ya typically what will happen is you turbo a single core | 23:17 |
| clarkb | with the goal of getting that unit of work done quicker then you turbo another busy core and so on iirc | 23:17 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: which my test workload will defeat with enough simultaneous jobs | 23:17 |
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| zaro | infra-core: review-dev.o.o is back online (without the '//' in url) | 23:19 |
| jeblair | clarkb: is that visible to linux? | 23:19 |
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| jeblair | (maybe powertop or something?) | 23:19 |
| clarkb | jeblair: yes /proc/cpuinfo should reflect the current cpu frequency | 23:19 |
| jeblair | though i wonder if that would propogate through to a vm | 23:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/project-config-example: Add tox -e zuul prerequisites https://review.openstack.org/242252 | 23:19 |
| clarkb | jeblair: you'll see it go above 2.0ghz there if a core is turboing | 23:19 |
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| pleia2 | zaro: it's -root :) | 23:19 |
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| clarkb | zaro: so you found the bug? | 23:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: Add Range header support https://review.openstack.org/241058 | 23:20 |
| StevenK_ | pleia2: Out of interest, did you promote aeng to admin on translate, or was that someone else? In any case, I've put up https://review.openstack.org/241867 so puppet matches. | 23:21 |
| pleia2 | StevenK_: I did not | 23:21 |
| pleia2 | StevenK_: thanks for keeping up with that :) | 23:21 |
| StevenK_ | Gah, when did my nick change. | 23:21 |
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| pleia2 | freenode was a bit wobbly earlier | 23:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Add new context manager for shade exceptions, cont. https://review.openstack.org/241667 | 23:21 |
| zaro | clarkb: i believe so: https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/#/c/72105 | 23:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Add Alex Eng to admins for translate{,-dev} https://review.openstack.org/241867 | 23:27 |
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| clarkb | zaro: nice | 23:28 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, zaro: are either of you using ff to look at that gerrit-review change? i'm getting javascript errors | 23:30 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: I did and had to refresh to get the diff to load | 23:31 |
| clarkb | let me try again and look more closely at the debugger | 23:31 |
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| jeblair | refresh isn't helping me; i'm getting "(TypeError) : a is undefined" | 23:32 |
| clarkb | I get no element found but thats it | 23:32 |
| zaro | i have not been using FF | 23:32 |
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| jeblair | i love gwt | 23:32 |
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| clarkb | I am still on ff 41 | 23:32 |
| clarkb | did you update to latest? | 23:32 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i haven't see cpu mhz change yet; i suspect if it is, it may be invisible to vms | 23:32 |
| clarkb | I can try that | 23:32 |
| anteaya | jeblair: I am signed into review-dev using ff 41.0.2 and so far see no errors | 23:34 |
| anteaya | what do I need to do replicate? | 23:34 |
| jeblair | anteaya: ok, though i was asking about gerrit-review. | 23:34 |
| anteaya | sorry | 23:34 |
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| * jeblair should probably just use gertty | 23:36 | |
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| anteaya | jeblair: I am now signed into gerrit-review and see no errors | 23:36 |
| * anteaya keeps clicking on things | 23:36 | |
| clarkb | jeblair: ff 42 just has the same no element found issue | 23:37 |
| clarkb | jeblair: what version of ff are you using? | 23:37 |
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| zaro | wow, my MAC suddenly restart. coincidentally when i started using FF | 23:37 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i tried both 41 and 42 | 23:37 |
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| clarkb | zaro: thats its way of telling you to use linux | 23:37 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: got the typeerror with both | 23:37 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/#/c/72105/1/gerrit-openid/src/main/java/com/google/gerrit/httpd/auth/openid/OpenIdServiceImpl.java | 23:37 |
| zaro | i'm using 42 on MAC and i don't see any errors. | 23:37 |
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| zaro | clarkb: i'm going to blame FF this time. | 23:38 |
| jeblair | well, maybe the next randomize gwt compile will work better | 23:38 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: have you tried a hard refresh? I wonder if you have cached something | 23:39 |
| anteaya | jeblair: that link renders the view with the one line removed in the patch and no errors I can see | 23:39 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yep | 23:39 |
| anteaya | to confirm I am signed in to gerrit-review | 23:40 |
| jeblair | anteaya: i am not | 23:40 |
| openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/lodgeit: pep8: E126 continuation line over-indented for hanging indent https://review.openstack.org/242264 | 23:40 |
| jeblair | still fails after a restart too. | 23:41 |
| mordred | jeblair: have you tried turnning it off and on again? | 23:41 |
| jeblair | mordred: twice | 23:41 |
| anteaya | I have signed out and closed my browser, the link to the patch no longer renders for me | 23:42 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: logged in? | 23:42 |
| anteaya | I don't have a firefox debugger running | 23:43 |
| zaro | Ahh i can repro if not logged in. | 23:43 |
| dougwig | wow, known issue? zuul - openstack-infra/devstack-gate 237480,9 146 hr 21 min | 23:43 |
| jeblair | who uses the web without being logged into google? /s :) | 23:43 |
| anteaya | jeblair: ha ha ha | 23:43 |
| clarkb | jeblair: no | 23:44 |
| clarkb | or let me double check | 23:44 |
| anteaya | I wasn't, but logged in to view the patch | 23:44 |
| clarkb | I am | 23:44 |
| anteaya | dougwig: I think regXboi asked about it in backscroll, I don't think there was an outcome | 23:45 |
| anteaya | dougwig: thanks for asking again | 23:45 |
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| clarkb | dougwig: anteaya thats a change that has broken networking on the slaves | 23:45 |
| jeblair | i believe fungi provided instructions for pulling it from the queue | 23:45 |
| clarkb | so zuul restarts the job | 23:45 |
| clarkb | you can push a new patchset that doens't break networking | 23:45 |
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| clarkb | or a jenkins admin can manually kill the job | 23:45 |
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| jeblair | poof | 23:48 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: I cant diff if not logged in | 23:48 |
| clarkb | zaro: ^ | 23:48 |
| clarkb | related to other diff bug I found maybe? | 23:49 |
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| zaro | yeah, seems to be on both FF and chrome. | 23:49 |
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| zaro | although i have not been able to repro on review-dev. | 23:51 |
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| anteaya | zaro: oh and thanks for fixing review-dev | 23:52 |
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| jeblair | zaro: agreed, review-dev wfm | 23:54 |
| clarkb | jeblair: and debug log shows that a is undefined with a typeerror | 23:54 |
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| clarkb | woo ff 42 broke treetab | 23:54 |
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| clarkb | now I remember why I can't use horizontal tabs | 23:55 |
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