Wednesday, 2015-06-17

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cathy_fungi: Ok, great there is a channel to point it out if I see one in the future. I will post it in this openstack-infra channel. Thanks a lot for all the help!00:00
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fungicathy_: sure, this is as appropriate a place as any00:01
fungilifeless: 191611 reminds me that i wish there were sane ways to mask out block comments in tested output so that when you want to correct a small typographical error you don't have to fix it in a dozen test assertions too00:01
fungilifeless: i suppose if you knew of a smart solution there, you'd have already used it00:01
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fungiand matching all the output is at least safer than not00:02
lifelessfungi: I can use DocStringMatches00:03
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lifelessbut in this case, the pain goes away in a future refactor00:03
lifelessas I move to a model rather than strings00:03
openstackgerritClint Adams proposed openstack-infra/zuul: transpose typo'd characters
fungilifeless: oh, also why are you wrapping a non-indented string constant in textwrap.dedent()? copy/paste?00:03
lifelessfungi: can't brain00:04
fungifair enough00:04
lifelessfungi: (but it goes away)00:04
lifelessfungi: so, I'm meh on fixing it in this point, but I can if you like.00:04
fungioh, thanks i'll browse up-chain a bit00:04
fungino, it's just cosmetic00:04
fungiand we need to get these cranked through00:05
fungii'm not interested in quibbling over whitespace and no-op methods. was mainly just curious whether there was some useful side effect i was overlooking00:05
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lifelessjust context switch fails from dealing with C issues00:07
fungioh, not the c i was thinking you meant00:07
lifelessanyhow yeah in DocStringMatches you'd say00:07
lifelessbut in a regular unittest, not a DocTest00:08
fungigot it, i'll try to use that the next time i find myself rewording some inconsequential prose output which has also been embedded directly into lots of tests00:09
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fungilifeless: inline question on 191612 if you get time to follow up00:15
fungilifeless: i think the resolver job failure on 187055 is legit. not sure if you spotted that and whether we should block on it or if that means you have upstream issues to fix now00:17
lifelessfungi: resolver can't resolve when we're inconsistent00:18
lifelessfungi: so ignoring00:18
lifelessfungi: (thats why its nonvoting :))00:18
fungilifeless: well, it was passing the patches up the chain until 18705500:18
lifelessI will double check00:18
fungiwhere it's having a problem with the marker00:18
fungii think00:19
fungi"SyntaxError: invalid expression: win32"00:19
lifelessfungi: answered00:20
lifelessthats the resolver branch00:20
lifelessit hasn't had teh 7.0.3 bugfixes merged in00:20
fungigot it. so 7.0.2 and earlier would also fail on that marker i guess00:21
fungithanks for double-checking!00:22
lifelessi've answered the 191612 thing00:22
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fungilifeless: yep, that makes sense. thanks00:23
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openstackgerritBenjamin Pflanz proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Don't parse git log header for topic.
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Make requirements parsing testable.
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Simplify requirement comparisons.
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Update default Fedora to 22
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Cleanup yum downloading
ianwgreghaynes: ^ 3rd (4th, 5th?) time's a charm :)00:35
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Stop testing for periods (.) in the commit subject
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Move to a single unified parser for requirements.
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Make sure we can and do add subnets to routers
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Remove spurious output in test suite.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Also update extras in setup.cfg.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Mark as Python2.7 only the dependencies that are.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Add upper-constraints.txt.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Add upper-constraints.txt generator.
lifelessthat should fix the top end00:45
fungilifeless: awesome. i was getting close to running out of changes in that stack that were passing tests ;)00:45
lifelessI added a requirements.txt but didn't tell git00:46
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Update to newer hacking checks
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fungilifeless: you were correct ^00:51
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fungilifeless: is it new pip or new pbr which has started creating a .eggs subdirectory? i notice i'm getting it as an untracked file after running some tox envs, but it's not in our cookiecutter .gitignore00:55
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lifelessoption three00:55
lifelessnew setuptools00:55
lifeless[I think, I haven't tracked it down in detail TBH]00:55
lifelessbut - the eggs are pbr which is from easy_install probably00:56
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Fix H238 violation and enable check for that rule
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Ignore .eggs cruft
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-dev/cookiecutter: Ignore .eggs cruft
asselinfungi, jeblair review of this simple zuul patch would be much appreciated by 3rd party ci folks:
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lifeless192197 needs a devstack fix01:04
lifelesslet me get onto that01:04
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lifelessfungi: we'll also need to pip install -e . or similar in the periodic job01:06
fungilifeless: will update. thanks01:06
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fungilifeless: i take it -e is to accommodate that the requirements scripts as installed might be subsequently modified?01:07
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lifelessfungi: pip install . would be fine too01:10
lifelessits just to install Parsley01:10
lifelesswe need this to run the new entry point anyhow01:10
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fungioh, that makes slightly more sense. i thought the -e was significant to your original suggestion. thanks01:10
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Fix formatting in Puppet Module Functional Testing
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lifelessI always get confused trying to find Ubuntu iso images01:11
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lifeless doesn't have any useful images.01:12
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fungilifeless: looking at i think that's already doing what you want01:14
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add periodic propose-requirements-constraints jobs
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lifelessand jigdo is off and running01:16
fungijigdo, such a marvel of engineering it was01:17
fungiand then distros just started seeding torrents of their disk images01:17
lifeless100M templates are a little worrying01:18
lifelessUbuntu still ships jigdo files01:19
fungiindeed. i'm surprised debuntu manage to keep theirs updated01:19
lifelessand since I have a local mirror...01:19
fungiyeah, way fast that way01:19
lifelessI don't seem tohave the udebs mirrored01:19
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lifelesseither that, or jigdo doesn't like it. it definitely hit my mirrr for the bulk of it01:20
lifelessmm, I might be able to just ssh into the other vm I have around..01:21
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lifelessfungi: no01:26
lifelessfungi: so - is the problem01:26
EmilienMfungi: I need to take over to fix beaker tests first. Do you mind if I do it?01:26
fungiEmilienM: feel free! i never mind anyone taking over my changes01:27
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EmilienMfungi: ok. (I prefer asking)01:28
lifelessfungi: not to mention - I suspect there's no venv around
fungiEmilienM: i've signed up for more than enough work already to get possessive of any of it. if someone takes over a patch of mine, it's that much less i need to worry about ;)01:29
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openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Up the apache timeout
fungilifeless: oh, i see... we're calling before we bother pip installing the requirements source01:30
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Update default Fedora to 22
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Work around yum/dnf differences
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add YUM variable to for Fedora >= 22
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Revert "Revert "Ensure DIB_RELEASE is exported for fedora""
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Cleanup yum downloading
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ianwlet's try again...01:31
fungilifeless: when you said fix it in the periodic job, i thought you meant
jheskethfungi, mordred, jeblair, pleia2: if you are still around I'd appreciate getting reviewed as it's hurting us01:31
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* jhesketh has been trying to track down the git failures for weeks :-s01:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Make Python 3.4 voting on git-review again
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jheskethanybody with network knowledge (which I don't have) may also be worth having a look at the tcpdumps to see if my analysis is correct01:32
ianwjhesketh: that's interesting, i've been monitoring nodepool builds closely last coupel of days, was about to send an email about it01:33
ianwimage builds fail pretty dang consistently cloning nova01:33
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jheskethyep, the failures have been happening for a long time for me, but recently becoming very frequent (as nova has gotten bigger no doubt)01:33
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jhesketha repack of nova would also probably help, but that's only short term01:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Only update git-review docs on release
fungijhesketh: good catch. we should possibly also take this as a sign to scale out our git farm or figure out if it's getting a lot of unnecessary traffic01:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Simplify nodepool diskimage logging
jheskethfungi: I think it's more a scale of nova, but certainly that's happening as well01:34
fungijhesketh: those connection resets have been maddening, agreed, and i've lacked cycles to really sit and dig into them01:34
openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Up the apache timeout
fungiso thanks for running that down01:35
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jheskeththat's okay, sorry it took me so long!01:35
fungisorry it took me even longer!01:35
fungiand awesome that gus helped track it down01:35
fungithanks gus!01:35
jheskethfungi: sorry I cleared your +2 because I needed to give gus credit for looking at the logs01:36
jheskethindeed, cheers to gus!01:36
ianwif there's interest, i could send something to the list, i get an email like ->
fungiit's already restored ;)01:36
lifelessfungi: so yeah, we need that to land too01:36
lifelessfungi: but yeah, we need to start treating openstack_requirements as a thing we install01:37
jheskethianw: sure, if you want to let the list know that'd be cool01:37
jheskethI'd be interested to see how many others have been running into this01:37
fungilifeless: which other periodic job were you talking about? or did you mean the one triggered in the post pipeline to sync changes that merge to the reqs repo out to all the other projects?01:37
fungiianw: some of those look like they could also be repos which failed to be created successfully. i wonder if stackforge/cathead creation is broken or not present on some of the git servers01:38
ianwjhesketh: yeah, we've talked about different ways to tackle this -- testing image builds which has a spec out, or writing out status, etc.01:39
lifelessfungi: the later01:39
ianwbut scraping the logs is something easy to do right now. would help01:39
lifelessfungi: the one that uses
fungilifeless: right, okay. not periodic but i get what you mean01:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Support environment markers in requirements.
fungii'll have to ponder how we make that sane. probably a virtualenv, you're right01:40
jheskethianw: looks good, but probably should be debug level01:40
lifelessfungi: t=mkdtemp; trap rm -rf t; virtualenv t; t/bin/pip install -e .01:41
fungilifeless: and then either source the venv envvars or root invocations of to the one installed there01:41
lifelessfungi: we'd want to make just one for the whole thing too I suspect01:42
lifelessfungi: yeah01:42
lifelessfungi: now we've merged the new entry point, we can stop calling altogether01:42
fungiright-o. and since devstack also needs that cleaned up, you're tackling that end sounds like01:42
lifelessjust had to do some maintenance of my devstack vm01:43
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lifelesswhich is done, so time to poke around01:43
openstackgerritZhenguo Niu proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add ironic-dashboard to stackforge
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openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Up the apache timeout
openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Restart apache when config files are updated
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Support multiple marked reqs for the same package
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Document the global requirements format.
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run requirements update entrypoint from a venv
fungilifeless: ^ is what you had in mind?01:52
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Remove spurious output in test suite.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Also update extras in setup.cfg.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Mark as Python2.7 only the dependencies that are.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Add upper-constraints.txt.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Add upper-constraints.txt generator.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Pull serialisation out of _sync_requirements_file.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Remove spurious output in test suite.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Pull parsing out of sync_requirements_file.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Also update extras in setup.cfg.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Handle : as well as ; for markers.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Mark as Python2.7 only the dependencies that are.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Add upper-constraints.txt.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Add upper-constraints.txt generator.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Add windows requirements.
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lifelessfungi: reviewed01:55
lifelessfungi: - I've added a Depends-On01:55
lifelessbut i think all the devstack reviewers are sleepy by now01:56
fungilifeless: thanks, i was going to find that one and -1 with a request to do that, so you've saved me the trouble01:56
openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/requirements: Add senlin and its client to project list
fungilifeless: oh, yep, generate-constraints. thanks!01:57
lifelessfungi: well, only way to know if it works01:57
fungilifeless: oh, i meant also add a depends-on for 192493 so that we don't risk prematurely merging it and breaking the requirements updates01:58
lifelessfungi: it would provide quite some incentive to land 19249301:59
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fungilifeless: it would at that, but might also annoy projects who stop getting important updates proposed to them01:59
lifelessfungi: :)01:59
lifelessI can add one01:59
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Remove spurious output in test suite.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Also update extras in setup.cfg.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Mark as Python2.7 only the dependencies that are.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Add upper-constraints.txt.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Add upper-constraints.txt generator.
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lifelessfungi: may need +A reapplied02:01
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run requirements update entrypoint from a venv
lifeless is still waiting on review though02:02
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EmilienMnibalizer: I think it would be cool to enable html5 notifications in our jenkins servers02:04
EmilienMnibalizer: for that there is a plugin, I wonder if it's worth to propose it02:04
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run requirements update entrypoint from a venv
fungiokay, i think my wife is going to tell me to sleep on the couch if i stay up much later, so i'm calling it a night02:07
fungilater all02:07
jheskethnight :-)02:07
lifelessand thanks; feeling the progress02:07
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fungiyou bet. happy to help02:08
lifelesswow citrix-CI, you drunk02:09
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Enhance logging around image building
ianwjhesketh: ^ i'm happy for any votes :)02:10
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jheskethianw: thanks. You missed the last one though, was that deliberate?02:12
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Enhance logging around image building
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ianwjhesketh: sorry02:23
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jheskethianw: don't be, I'm nit-picking a little ;p02:25
jheskeththanks though!02:25
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openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add support for 'connection' concept
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lifelesshah, untested code failures - has lost its exec bit from update.py02:54
lifelessI'll fix tomorrow02:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Add windows requirements.
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Pull parsing out of sync_requirements_file.
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openstackgerritClint Adams proposed openstack-infra/zuul-packaging: Update zuul packaging for zuul 2.1.0
ianw2015-06-17 01:34:35.077 | * Connected to (2620:8d:8000:15:225:90ff:fefd:344c) port 80 (#2)04:09
ianw2015-06-17 01:34:35.077 | > GET /fedora/fedora/linux/releases/22/Cloud/x86_64/Images/Fedora-Cloud-Base-22-20150521.x86_64.qcow2 HTTP/1.104:09
ianwhaving the d-i-b jobs downloading from mirrors probably isn't great...04:09
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openstackgerritSirushti Murugesan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run python34 tests only on master for heat
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greghaynesianw: its not, but theres not an alternative ATM04:15
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greghaynesianw: we'd probably need to add those images to the mirrors because collectively its a few gigs of data04:16
greghaynesthat does sound like a fun project though...04:16
greghaynesAlso, what the DIB tests need more than those images mirrored is actual package mirrors04:16
StevenKYeah, I have a script that downloads cloud images for Ubuntu, it's 730MiB for trusty and utopic i386 and amd6404:17
StevenKBut I can probably stop doing that now04:17
greghaynesso that + f21, f22, centos 5, 7, debian04:17
ianwyeah, i just fear the job is testing mirror reliability / network reliability as much as the change04:18
StevenKianw: By that argument, any of our jobs do04:18
greghaynesianw: there are definitely transient failures as a result of that, and it would be awesome to mirror that data04:18
greghaynesso, we should04:18
ianwStevenK: to some extent, but for the most part calls to external things are minimized and we cache stuff in images04:19
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greghaynesYea, this is yet another thing that hits the limits of the caching all the data in images model04:19
ianwgreghaynes: a static site with some puppet to rsync might be a first step ... is there anything in progress at all?04:20
greghaynesianw: rather than that, we can make a periodic job that pulls images and rsync's to the mirrors04:21
ianwit might have a home under in fact...04:21
greghaynessimilar to the pypi-mirror periodic job stuff04:21
ianwgreghaynes: is there a spec for this at all?04:21
ianwgreghaynes: ok, well i might try writing one up04:22
ianwone other thing i'm really interested in is publishing the image outputs for download too04:22
ianwimage outputs of nodepool04:22
greghaynesHeres my pypi-mirror thing that should be a pretty good boilerplate:
ianwthere could be some cross-over04:22
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greghaynesianw: yep, we should definitely do that :) One thing that there was some debate about was how to deal with the login credentials for published images, there are a few options that came up though04:23
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greghaynesactually, I think were going to be all using simple-init in the not too distant future, in which case users can just config-drive in their own ssh ey04:24
greghayneser, ssh key04:24
ianwjust make the password giantswin:)04:24
StevenKWhich will make Giants either happy or very angry?04:25
StevenKEr, Giants fans04:25
greghaynesI kind of wanted to do a slight modification to the public images that does something like that - a lot easier for users than booting images with config drive04:25
greghaynesianw: let me know if you get a spec up or somesuch, I'd definitely be up for helping implement that04:27
ianwgreghaynes: yep, maybe later this week04:27
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pleia2jhesketh: approved04:48
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jheskethpleia2: yay, thanks!04:56
jheskethpleia2: I made a dependant patch since then too though if you have time
pleia2jhesketh: ah yes, of course04:58
jheskeththat way I won't have to poke people to kick git servers ;-)04:58
* pleia2 nods04:58
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openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add centos7 test
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml
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StevenKcamunoz: Hai! Do you have a sec?06:05
yamamotohow the redirection from to was set up?06:09
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greghaynesyamamoto: I belive when they do a rename of the project github automatically takes care of it06:11
greghayneswell, technically a transfer of ownership in this case I think, but same thing06:12
yamamotomakes sense.  thank you!06:12
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Update nodepool to use nodepool.conf file
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openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: midonet: Specify Q_PLUGIN=midonet in local.conf
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phiche1Hi openstack-infra!07:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml
phiche1Is this the correct channel to ask questions about contributing to the jenkins-job-builder?07:14
AJaegerphiche1: yes, it is.07:14
AJaegerphiche1: I just don't know whether somebody is awake that can help you, you might need to come back later.07:15
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AJaegerphiche1: But ask and let's see who answers ;)07:15
phiche1AJaeger: great! We're maintaining our own fork with some added functionality that we need for our jobs (mainly java projects with some selenium testing)07:17
phiche1The changes aren't made by me (although likely some might be in the future)07:17
phiche1However I have signed all the stuff to be an OpenStack contributor07:18
phiche1I'd like to submit the changes back to the upstream project, even though they are not mine07:18
phiche1Are there any rules about this?07:18
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AJaegerphiche1: that's a legal question...07:18
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Support pushing translations to Zanata
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AJaegerIf the others that have contributed to the code, agree with this, you should be able to submit it - but I can't really answer how to do this best.07:20
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phiche1Sure, I understand the details on the company side, I was thinking more on the OpenStack side07:20
AJaegerOne way would be to submit the patch and add lots of "Co-Authored-By <contributor@email>" to it07:20
AJaegerphiche1: from the OpenStack side, check the content of the CLA07:21
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phiche1but the co-authors don't necessarily need to sign the CLA?07:22
AJaegerSo, there's provision in that for it - but I cannot help further. There's a legal-discuss (or similar) openstack mailing list, might be better to ask there...07:22
AJaegerphiche1: AFAIU If you submit it, you are responsible that the code is clean.07:22
AJaegerphiche1: sorry, I can't help further07:23
phiche1AJaeger: Thanks, at least you gave me a hint in the right direction07:24
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openstackgerritFatih Degirmenci proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add Google Cloud Storage Plugin support
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mordredjhesketh: I +A'd the dependent patch so it should land soonish07:39
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mordredphiche1: jenkins-job-builder does not require siging the CLA07:40
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mordredphiche1: we have _many_ contributors to it that are not normal openstack contributors07:41
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phiche1mordred: good to know that maybe it's a simpler process07:48
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jheskethmordred: thanks!07:54
AJaegermordred: Ah, thanks for that info...07:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Restart apache when config files are updated
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Up the apache timeout
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openstackgerritAndreas Scheuring proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add networking-macvtap to StackForge
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Revert "Run full tempest on centos7"
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openstackgerritTan Lin proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add oat-client element
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openstackgerritJames Polley proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Fix everything by requiring setuptools>=16.
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markus_zDoes anyone know an example of how to use the REST API of openstacks gerrit? I'd like to do a few automatized queries.09:02
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openstackgerritMaish Saidel-Keesing proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Adding Ops-tag team biweekly meeting
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AJaegermarkus_z: one example is
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openstackgerritJerome Hourquebie proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Adds Cloudbees folder plugin support
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markus_zAJaeger: good pointer, thanks!09:11
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markus_zAJaeger: A short comeback: I tried it with curl and wasn't successful because I used "/" instead to encode it with "%2F"09:22
markus_zworks: curl ""09:22
markus_zdoesn't work: curl ""09:22
markus_zBut maybe you knew that already :)09:22
AJaegermarkus_z: I've never used the gerrit API, so won't be able to help further. If you need more help, better ask fungi.09:23
AJaegerhe should be around some time in our afternoon (US morning).09:23
markus_zI have everything I need right now, just wanted to give back my finding. Thanks09:24
jheskethmordred: are you able to check if the apache processes was restarted on one of the git servers per chance?09:25
jheskethwant to make sure that change was loaded in before I do more tcpdump testing09:25
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mordredjhesketh: in a cab ... I can in about 3009:27
jheskethmordred: no hurry, but thanks! :-)09:27
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* jhesketh really hopes the git services haven't restarted... otherwise it didn't fix the problem :s09:39
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lennyb_hi, is something wrong with the git? I am getting  /tmp/ root@r-dcs63:/tmp# git clone git:// /tmp/nova Cloning into '/tmp/nova'... fatal: The remote end hung up upon initial contact09:41
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jheskethlennyb_: yes, nova has grown a little too big and often the git servers timeout before cloning09:46
jheskethlennyb_: I'm working on a fix currently09:46
lennyb_jhesketh: thanks. neutron has the same issue09:47
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jhesketh(i'll be back in an hour)09:47
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mordredjhesketh: looks like apache restarted an hour and 20 minutes ago on git0109:57
jheskethmordred: restarted or reloaded?09:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/yaml2ical: Update usage and options explanation in the README
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/yaml2ical: Add project and agenda URLs to the bottom of calendar descriptions
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/yaml2ical: Add 'outfile' var that can be used in templates
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openstackgerritKairat Kushaev proposed openstack/requirements: Increase testtools version to support unittest2
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/yaml2ical: Add docs on biweekly-odd vs biweekly-even
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/yaml2ical: Add docs on biweekly-odd vs biweekly-even
mordredjhesketh: the parent pid has a start time?10:10
jheskethhmm okay, I'll take a look at my new, still failing, tcpdumps then10:10
jheskethbut for now returning to teleconf10:10
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openstackgerritMaish Saidel-Keesing proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Adding Ops-tag team biweekly meeting
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder: Revert "Revert "Ensure DIB_RELEASE is exported for fedora""
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openstackgerritYanis Guenane proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Submit new project puppet-openstack-cookiecutter
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openstackgerritIgor Malinovskiy proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add manila-image-elements to OpenStack
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StevenKAJaeger: Thanks for the +2 -W on the patch -- is the commit message clear enough for you?11:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Set Calendar Name and Description on ical
AJaegerStevenK: yes, looks fine. Thanks!11:45
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Allow to delete nodes with missing target or provider
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openstackgerritYanis Guenane proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Submit new project puppet-openstack-cookiecutter
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add comment explaining why finding an IP is hard
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openstackgerritIgor Malinovskiy proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add manila-image-elements to OpenStack
mordredShrews: I tihnk we should release shade. thoughts?12:04
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Shrewsmordred: yeah. sort of needed for the ansible rules module12:04
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Shrewsmordred: How confident are you with the new swift stuff that was recently added?12:05
mordredShrews: well, I mean - it's about time to test that it works for nodepool and roll it in to production12:07
mordredShrews: but I do not believe it has been directly tested in a nodepool context12:07
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mordredmorning samueldmq12:07
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samueldmqmordred, hi, at a glance, shade looks very interesting12:08
mordredsamueldmq: it's where all of teh pain and suffering lives12:08
samueldmqmordred, when you were developing something related to domains, user and groups at #keystone last week ...12:08
samueldmqmordred, was that for shade ?12:08
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mordredsamueldmq: yup12:08
samueldmqmordred, did your patches get merged already ?12:08
mordredsamueldmq: I have a stack of changes up related to that - although they all currently need tests12:08
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samueldmqmordred, great, keystone side on shade12:09
samueldmqmordred, I will review that this week .. hmm tests12:09
mordredShrews: the swift stuff released already last week - so I think it's only secgroup rules stuff this week12:10
samueldmqmordred, does shade have its own tests already ? (still looking at the code)12:10
mordredsamueldmq: 0.8.0 ok with you?12:10
mordredsamueldmq: yup! we have unit tests and functional tests that run against devstack12:10
Shrewsmordred: we cut a release last week?12:10
mordredShrews: yah - 0.7.012:10
samueldmqmordred, 0.8.0 ? release you want to get that keystone stuff ?12:10
mordredsamueldmq: nah - I want to release Shrews' security groups stuff so we can land the ansible modules that depend on it12:11
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mordredsamueldmq: I think we can get the keystone stuff in for next week12:11
Shrewsmordred: the SwiftService stuff is NOT in 0.7.012:11
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mordredShrews: my local changelog says it is12:11
samueldmqmordred, k, I just didnt understand your message <mordred> samueldmq: 0.8.0 ok with you?12:11
Shrewsmordred: git log says it is not12:12
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mordredShrews: aroo?12:12
mordredsamueldmq: oh - I mant to sent that to Shrews12:12
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mordredShrews: oh!12:12
mordredlifeless: bug in pbr changelog processing12:12
mordredlifeless: it's sorting things by patch written date not by patch landed date12:13
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mordredlifeless: so the calculation of "what patches were in a tag" is mis-placing things12:13
Shrewsmordred: oh, hrm, the "merge" log message is after the 0.7.0 release, but the actual land seems to be before12:13
Shrewsmordred: yeah, go 0.8.012:13
mordredwell, git shows merge commits when they happen, but the commits they merged back in time when they were written12:14
Shrewsah. silly git12:14
samueldmqmordred, is shade like the openstack sdk ?12:15
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mordredsamueldmq: it's similar, but different12:15
mordredsamueldmq: it's a library focused on capturing the logic you need to deal with all the openstack clouds we've found out int he wild and hide their differences12:16
mordredsamueldmq: python-openstacksdk is a library that is a sane wrapper around the REST APIs12:16
samueldmqmordred, just putting all the clietns together12:16
mordredI expect us to port shade to use python-openstacksdk as soon as briancurtin tells me it's ok12:16
mordredsamueldmq: well, and hiding things like the interface difference between keystone v2 and keystone v312:17
mordredsamueldmq: you'll notice that shade uses "project" _everywhere_ even if it's talking keystone v212:17
samueldmqmordred, exactly, that should be built on the top openstack sdk12:17
mordredfor instance12:17
mordredthat's exactly right12:17
samueldmqmordred, great, I will take a look at those patches this week12:17
mordredbut the openstacksdk folks aren't QUITE ready to be used in shade - because shade is used in production in nodepool12:17
mordredsamueldmq: so - you know - it wants to be solid :)12:18
samueldmqmordred, those are supposed to be using keystone v3 api right?12:18
mordredsamueldmq: yes - they are supposed to be exposing the concepts in the keystone v3 api12:18
mordredsamueldmq: although a few of them also exist in v212:18
samueldmqmordred, ++ great12:18
mordredShrews: ok. tag pushed12:18
samueldmqmordred, we're working towards having everybody being compatible with v3 this cycle12:19
mordredsamueldmq: that will be great!12:19
samueldmqmordred, we have an experimental gate job, and jamielennox is working on devstack, after taht we will work on individual services12:19
mordredsamueldmq: although only one of the public clouds I know of runs v312:19
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mordredsamueldmq: once the v3 gate job is solid, I will want to add a keystonev3 config gate job to shade12:19
samueldmqmordred, yes, for now ... for now mordred :)12:19
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samueldmqmordred, looks a great plan12:20
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samueldmqmordred, I will tell you once we have it working12:20
mordredsamueldmq: awesome - I'm excited!12:21
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mordredlifeless: so - when you are awake once more - git log --oneline --decorate and git log --oneline --decorate 0.7.0..0.8.0 in shade shows teh issue12:23
mordredlifeless: "Switch to SwiftService for segmented uploads" shows up before 0.7.0 in the first, and in 0.8.0 in the second12:24
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mordredlifeless: it seems we may want to do a double iteration ... get list of tags, then iterate over their ranges?12:24
openstackgerritPhilip Hands proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding support for LiveScreenshot Plugin
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openstackgerritPhilip Hands proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: scm svn: add support for viewvc-url
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mordredAJaeger: SpamapS says we should document something in keystone:
mordredAJaeger: do you have a suggestion of the right place for such a thing?12:41
mordredalso - samueldmq, morganfainberg: ^^12:41
mordredI think domain is the really important one - because deleting a domain cascades a delete of all of the users, projects and resources in that domain, yeah?12:41
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samueldmqmordred, yes12:42
Davieymordred / lifeless: This is an extract of some code i used to generate cl's previously..
Daviey(might be useful?)12:42
AJaegermordred: what about the API documentation? See and search for12:42
AJaeger"Delete user"12:43
AJaegermordred: let me check something else as well...12:43
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AJaegermordred: what about ? Does the keystone client do the right thing here or should we add more information to that description?12:44
AJaegersorry, wrong section - use
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samueldmqmordred, here we talk about disabled domain
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samueldmqmordred, deleting user doc should be at
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openstackgerritLuigi Toscano proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable Sahara for Horizon integration tests
mordredsamueldmq: awesome. so - the docs call out disabling domains, but do not call out disabling users first12:48
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samueldmqmordred, that's right .. I am not sure we advise to disable user first12:49
mordredkk. that's good to know - I'll rebase that patch out for now then12:50
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samueldmqmordred, I am confirming that with keystone-cores in the channel12:52
dimsjd__: ttx: an easy long suffering requirements review please when you get a chance -
samueldmqmordred, at least one core doesn't think we advise disable-then-delete for users12:52
samueldmqmordred, so rebasing that out is fair enough for now :)12:52
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AJaegerdims: please create a change for project-config to run the check-requirements job on nova-docker as well.12:55
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dimsAJaeger: y, will add a Depends-On to this one12:56
AJaegerdims: no need for that - they can go independent of each, a review comment should be enough12:56
dimsah cool even better12:56
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ttxdims: done12:58
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openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Up the haproxy timeout for git-fe*
dimsttx: thanks13:00
dimsAJaeger: looks like i already have one -
jheskethmordred, fungi: if you guys are around is also needed to fix the git issue13:01
jheskethas far as I can tell anyway13:01
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mordredjhesketh: haha13:03
mordredI read "redispatch" as "redis-patch" - and I was wondering what redis had to do with anything13:03
openstackgerritKyle Mestery proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Migrate ENABLED_SERVICES and TEMPEST_REGEX into networking-odl
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jheskethmordred: yeah so it's the defaults from the puppet module but upping the timeouts13:04
mordredjhesketh: yah - that makes sense to me now13:04
mordredjhesketh: english is hard13:04
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greghaynesoh no, please dont make haproxy talk to redis ;)13:04
mordredgreghaynes: REDIS ALL THE THINGS13:04
* jhesketh is kicking himself for checking the haproxy timeouts earlier but looking at the wrong haproxy in infra :-s13:05
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greghaynesmordred: so, should one of us test nodepool + shade -> rax swift image uplaod before we deploy13:05
greghaynesbecause, I really want to deploy that change13:06
jheskethmordred: so the tricky part is that git stuff is being really painful for us right now so I'd like to get this merged, but if it's wrong it'll break a lot of stuff and it's late here13:06
AJaegerdims: indeed, sorry, I didn't notice that when I checked ;(13:07
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greghaynesjhesketh: its about to be west coast AM - so if you break everything then other people get to fix. win win.13:07
dimsAJaeger: not an issue at all, just making sure i did not miss another spot13:08
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jheskethyep, merge and run is my style ;-)13:08
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AJaegerjhesketh: could you reconsider your -1 on , please?13:16
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sdagueAJaeger: so is this right - ? won't that just make it only run in gate and not in check?13:16
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AJaegersdague: adds it to both gate and check13:18
AJaegerThe name is not relevant and only leads to confusion IMHO13:18
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sdagueAJaeger: ok, so it confuses me13:18
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jd__are we the only ones to have an issue with python-libvirt since today ?13:18
sdaguebut if you say it's right, so be it :)13:19
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AJaegersdague: I hope it is ;)13:19
AJaegersdague: but thanks for double checking13:19
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jheskethAJaeger: thanks for the clarification, lgtm13:20
sdaguejd__: does logstash show hits for other projects?13:20
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jd__sdague: I forgot we have that, let me check13:20
AJaegerjhesketh: thanks. Do you want to add your suggestion on top of the patch?13:21
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jheskethAJaeger: it was a nit, hence the +A rather than blocking13:21
jheskethup to you13:21
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make heatclient-dsvm-functional gating for heatcli
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Update Information on governance depends change
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jd__sdague: yeah it seems we are the only one, I guess something changed in devstack or the like :) I'll look! thanks for the hint13:24
jheskethI'm off13:25
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Improve wording in governance change
AJaegerjhesketh: good night! Just added your suggestion ^13:26
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mugsiehey - I am adding a repo which should have +2/+A shared between designate-core and horizon-core - should I create a new group, and add designate + horizon core to it, or should I list the 2 groups in the acl?13:27
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jheskethAJaeger: you want a review comment in the project-config not the commit message updated?13:28
jheskethI think the commit message would be more appropriate (so long as it's clear it's not a depends-on)13:28
AJaegerjhesketh: Yes, that's what we as infra team had discussed previously13:28
jheskethbut I also don't mind either way13:28
jheskethokay cool13:28
AJaegerjhesketh: I'm fine with changing it - but a review comment is easier and enough for me13:29
sdaguejd__: it looks like you are missing the libvirt dev headers13:29
jheskeththanks for that AJaeger13:29
AJaegerjhesketh: thanks for reviewing and asking13:29
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jd__sdague: yup, I suspect
jd__cdent: idea?13:30
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cdentjd__: bit more context?13:31
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sdaguejd__: yeh, that's probably it, because ceilometer is now venv isolated, it actually needs to install everything, and can't use the system version of this13:31
cdenti'll look in a few, gotta get my lovely wife13:32
openstackgerritGraham Hayes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add openstack/designate-dashboard to the DNS Services project
cdentIs USE_VENV defaulting to true now?13:32
sdaguecdent: not in general, but the gnocchi jobs do iirc13:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add a non-voting py34 check job to Swift
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Surveil: add create to surveil-core
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: add project fuel-plugin-vxlan
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: New project python-ironic-inspector-client
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add non-voting check py34 job to Sahara
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Surveil: add publish to Pypi
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add uname -a to net-info macro
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Update bifrost job settings
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Added Lint job (nonvoting) to horizon-check
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add check-requirements to the vmware-nsx jobs
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Make kolla functional job voting
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Switch on requirements check for nova-docker
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openstackgerritRob Cresswell proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Fix incorrect docs meeting time
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Find module for exceptions raised from gen_xml
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Replace hipchat YamlFormatError with MissingAttributeError
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/requirements: Rename stackforge/octavia -> openstack/octavia
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Replace hipchat YamlFormatError with MissingAttributeError
AJaegerttx, sdague: could you review the patch above (192336) - that's a missing piece from last week's large project rename13:56
cdentjd__, sdague: the basic problem is that nova is not enabled in gnocchi's and nova was being responsibe for calling install_libvirt13:56
jd__cdent: we could make Ceilometer do that too in devstack no?13:56
cdentthis wasn't showing up as an issue before the ceilo change because the ceilo change added a specifc install of python-libvirt13:56
cdentyeah, that's probably the right fix13:56
sdaguecdent: so... it seems kind of weird to have ceilometer install libvirt13:57
sdagueshouldn't it just have that code path optional?13:57
cdentcould do sdague, but branching on what?13:57
sdagueI don't know, presumably ceilometer works without libvirt, right?13:58
openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Return True/False for delete methods
sdaguelike in the general case, ignoring all the current requirements break here13:58
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cdentthe current code basically installs libvirt-python if VIRT_DRIVER is set to 'libvirt', which is the default setting13:59
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cdentthat setting is indepdent of whether nova is being installed or not13:59
sdagueright, so I get where some of the wonkiness is in the devstack code paths, I was trying to step back to the big picture here14:00
cdentceilo will run without libvirt, yes14:00
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sdagueso the particular break here isn't because nova's not installed, it's because nova lives in a different universe on this box because of the ceilometer venv?14:01
sdagueoh, there is no nova?14:02
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cdentlibvirt (the libraries, not the python code) is installed from lib/nova_plugins14:02
cdentcorrect, no nova14:02
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sdagueyeh, I see now14:02
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Add script
cdentI reckon there are three options:14:04
cdent1. do nothing, wait for ceilo code not to be in gnocchi's test-requirements14:04
cdent2. just called install_libvirt from ceilo if VIRT_DRIVER, redundant but simple14:05
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Import Aodh into OpenStack
cdent3. be more careful around the libvirt-python install in lib/ceilo to only do it is NOVA is_enabled14:05
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sdaguecdent: so... what would be the implications if we just removed the virt driver install lines in install_ceilometer?14:07
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sdaguelike what would it break?14:07
cdentif we did that, when ceilometer was installed in a VENV it would not have libvirt-python, and thus could not poll nova14:07
sdagueit can still poll nova14:08
cdentI had to add that line to get ceilo in a USE_VENV to work14:08
cdentsdague: ??14:08
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sdaguethere might be some additional libvirt bits not exposed, but we've actually told people that you shouldn't be talking to libvirt directly on a nova worker14:09
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cdentwe've been over this before. the ceilometer-compute-agent breaks all the rules and has done for a long time and for the time being it needs to until you and I find the free time to get nova to do the notifications that we've discussed wanting to do14:09
openstackgerritSergey Skripnick proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove double curly brackets from cue builder
mriedemfungi: we're looking to do the final icehouse release, tag icehouse-eol and drop the stable/icehouse branch - i see with the chef cookbook rename you have several changes to update .gitreview in those repos on stable/icehouse:,n,z14:11
mriedemfungi: do we care about those? i'm also asking in #openstack-chef14:11
cdentsdague: those items listed here as pollsters are some of those that are the result of the libvirt (and other VIRT_DRIVER) -based polling:
cdentI agree that this is not how things should be, but they are what they are right now.14:12
cdentSo: a working devstack for ceilometer at least _wants_ libvirt14:13
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cdentWhat I'd like to do is make it acquire that in the least ugly and most flexible way. As far as I can tell from this discussion that means insuring that libvirt package is present before asking to install libvirt-python?14:13
fungimriedem: no, i pushed them with a script for all branches of all repos we renamed. feel free to abandon the ones you don't want and approve the ones you do want14:14
mriedemfungi: ok, thanks14:15
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sdaguecdent: so #3 is at least one path. I didn't realize this was polling libvirt directly, and I kind of wonder if that might be exasserbating
openstackLaunchpad bug 1353939 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Rescue fails with 'Failed to terminate process: Device or resource busy' in the n-cpu log" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)14:16
sdaguebecause one of the reasons we tell people not to talk to libvirt, is it's stability level seems to go down with multiple concurrent clients.14:17
mriedemsdague: might want to capture that in the bug report b/c we pushed up a change to try and help that bug but it didn't really, at least with libvirt 1.2.214:18
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Move akanda functional tests out of experimental
mriedemand danpb didn't see any reason why14:18
cdentGood questions sdague. ceilo has been doing this kind of polling for well over a year (that's as long as I have experience) and presumably _much_ longer as it is sort of the core magic of the compute-agent14:18
openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Return True/False for delete methods
mriedembut apparently it doesn't hit as much in the centos6/fc21 jobs where libvirt is at 1.2.8 and 1.2.9 respectively14:18
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Shrewsgreghaynes: ^^^ context added14:18
mriedemcdent: we've had that bug in the gate for about a year too :)14:19
greghaynesShrews: mmm context14:19
cdentmriedem: the second half of my statement is probably the more important part: far more than a year14:19
sdagueright, but we also bumped major os version in the last year, so that shuffles all the bugs around14:19
cdentsure, I'm not trying to wave away it as being a contributor, just trying to reinforce that ceilo's contribution is not new14:20
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cdentthe earliest I can see about libvirt in the ceilo logs is drom dhellmann in may of 2012 when the libvirt polling code was converted to plugins14:20
sdaguecdent: right, I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying this particular path is surprising. I had thought it was just polling nova.14:20
cdentnova is not willing to share enough info :)14:21
cdent(at least according to the people who demanded the creation of the virt inspector plugins)14:21
cdentI would have said "compute says no!"14:21
cdentand left it at that14:21
cdentbut I'm a big meanie14:21
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sdagueyeh, honestly, I wasn't involved when such things were going on, so I don't know14:22
mriedemthat was probably all pre-get-diagnostics in the v2.1 api14:23
mriedemwhich i thought provided an extra bag of unstructured goodies if needed14:23
mriedembut then ceilometer would just be hitting the nova api for that information14:23
cdentthus the pending discussion of "more notifications please"14:24
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mriedemand those would be in a periodic task?14:24
cdentmriedem: I believe that's the proposal, but I'm not sure of the details: I assume there have been more detailed talks about it in the past.14:25
openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add init-scripts directory support
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mriedemcdent: huh, well, that is probably pretty easy with the get_instance_diagnostics stuff in v2.1 api, it already has a versioned serializable diagnostics object which is structured data for the common parts14:27
morganfainbergmordred: so the only one I care about disable before delete is domains. But that is because of the cascade and expense (basically delete domain is almost never worth it)14:27
mriedemcdent: want to jump to -nova?14:28
cdentMuch of the time I think that the righ thing to do would be for nearly everyone to jump to nova14:29
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openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add a non-voting py34 check job to Swift
openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add a non-voting py34 check job to Cinder
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add a non-voting check-tempest-dsvm-neutron job
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openstackgerritFatih Degirmenci proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add Disable Failed Job Plugin support
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Allow push merge commit for oslo.cache
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make heatclient-dsvm-functional gating for heatcli
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dhellmannfungi: I'm going to start pushing the tags needed to make the server reversioning work. Before I do, can you help me understand what those new tags might trigger? For example, barbican is getting 1.0.0a0. Is that going to trigger uploading tarballs somewhere, or anything else? I don't see any pre-release pipeline jobs defined for barbican, but I'm not sure what might be getting inherited.15:06
fungidhellmann: it will probably upload alpha tarballs and wheels to the tarballs.o.o site and wheels to pypi15:08
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fungidhellmann: oh, for barbican specifically, checking now15:08
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Allow push merge commit for oslo.cache
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dhellmannI see openstack-server-release-jobs has {name}-tarball, and that's ok15:08
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Allow push merge commit for oslo.cache
fungidhellmann: yeah, it doesn't upload to pypi so you're fine15:09
funginote is still squatting with a "0" version15:09
dhellmannis there a tool to look at the zuul layout file and ask what jobs a project has? to expand all of these templates?15:09
dhellmannfungi: ok, that's good, we'll want that later on15:10
dhellmannI'm pretty sure anything this triggers is going to be fine, I just want to understand what is going to be happening before I do it. I haven't tagged a server project before.15:10
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fungidhellmann: you can look at the layout job result log15:11
fungifor a change15:11
dhellmannis that something I can produce with tox locally, too?15:11
fungidhellmann: other than that, not easily afaik15:11
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fungidhellmann: tox -e zuul in the project-config repo i believe15:11
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* dhellmann tries that15:12
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openstackgerritSerg Melikyan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move puppet-murano from stackforge to openstack
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jeblairmordred: last night was a really good night to go eat at restaurants that are normally hard to get into in the bay area.  the streets were empty (though the bars were full).15:18
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jeblairthe place we went to, which normally has a waitlist, was like "thank you so much for not watching basketball!"15:19
anteayaha ha ha15:20
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AJaegerjeblair, fungi: and are both "incubating" repos for stackforge that might move to openstack at one point of time15:21
AJaegerjeblair, fungi: Do we want to encourage these repos to get created directly under openstack?15:21
jeblairAJaeger: i do.  i would like to hear from devananda why he doesn't want something called "ironic-dashboard" to be part of the ironic project.15:22
* AJaeger just read jeblair's TC comment15:22
u_glidejeblair, sdague: Could you please merge this one-liner ?15:22
AJaegerdevananda: are you around?15:23
sdagueu_glide: +2 from me15:23
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mordredjeblair: nice!!15:23
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AJaegerjeblair: what about the networking stuff like ? That could go into Neutron as well - and we could -2 it before it merges ;)15:23
u_glidesdague: ty15:23
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Import Aodh into OpenStack
mesteryanteaya: here15:24
anteayaAJaeger: I'm wondering what mestery and armax want to do15:24
mesteryanteaya: which rename?15:24
jeblairAJaeger: i think at the moment, we don't have a policy, so i don't want to _block_ anything yet.  but I do want to ask people to think about where they want to end up and perhaps get things into the right place to start with.15:24
anteayathey have allowed some plugins under their umbella15:24
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anteayabut last I heard it was open source material15:25
anteayaso I'm not sure where this one fits15:25
anteayamestery: thoughts?15:25
* mestery reads15:25
AJaegermestery: we're tired of renaming repos and I wonder whether  shouldn't be adopted directly by you?15:26
mesteryAJaeger: I feel your pain15:26
anteayamestery: so our question is if you believe the end destiination is openstack, would you be willing to encourage this repo to start there?15:26
AJaegeranteaya: thanks for saying it nicely ;)15:26
mesteryanteaya: Can you let me circle back with armax today and get back you and AJaeger later?15:26
anteayaAJaeger: I have my moments15:26
mesteryI have to run a meeting in #openstack-meeting-3 now15:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Change tag ACLs for library projects to library-release team
anteayamestery: please15:27
mesteryAnd I want to talk to armax here15:27
anteayamestery: thanks15:27
mesteryOK, thank you!15:27
mesteryI'll be back later today with an answer :)15:27
anteayagreat thank you15:27
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mesteryAJaeger: Thank you for all your reviews (you too anteaya!), I always aprpeciate them :)15:27
anteayaof course15:27
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AJaegermestery: thanks15:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Run requirements update entrypoint from a venv
AJaegermestery: so, let me -2 the change for now15:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Revert "Run full tempest on centos7"
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armaxmestery: here15:30
mesteryarmax: lets talk in an hour15:30
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mesteryrunning meeting now15:30
armaxAJaeger: regarding
AJaegerarmax: read the scrollback here of the last 10 mins - and then discuss with mestery, please15:30
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AJaegerarmax: any quick question? I have to leave and will be back later15:31
armaxAJaeger: yes15:31
armaxAJaeger: eventually this would go to openstack as all the other projects under the neutron umbrella15:31
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armaxAJaeger: I only filed to stackforge because I was not sure that projects could be created directly under openstack15:32
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armaxAJaeger: but if can, I don’t see any reason why we should create work for ourselves and have to deal with a rename down the line15:32
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armaxAJaeger: however15:32
AJaegerarmax: indeed they can...15:33
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armaxAJaeger: since we really don’t know how much successful this project might be15:33
armaxAJaeger: or how much traction is going to get15:33
armaxAJaeger: we haven’t even included in the neutron umbrella jet15:33
AJaegerarmax: you can retire it either in stackforge or in openstack, not much of a change.15:33
armaxAJaeger: hence I chose stackforge to start with15:33
AJaegerjeblair, anteaya : Or do you see a difference here?15:34
jeblairAJaeger: no i agree with you15:34
armaxAJaeger: I only wonder if there is a perceived difference15:34
armaxfalse as it might be15:34
jeblairi'm hoping we can start percieving things differently.  no other project to my knowledge changes repository names based on the current level of maturity of a project.  :)15:35
fungiwe have plenty of "unsuccessful" (depending on how you define it) repos in openstack. so i'm unconvinced that starting them in stackforge fixes that anyway15:35
armaxjeblair: I meant the namespace15:35
anteayaarmax: the perceptions are changing, as jeblair points out15:35
armaxfungi: ok15:35
armaxanteaya: and I can only be in favor of that15:35
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anteayaarmax: so perceptions aside, focus on what the goal of the repo is15:35
jeblairarmax: the namespace is part of the name15:35
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armaxguys, if you are okay with the openstack namespace, I am all in favor of saving us work down the road15:36
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armaxlet me sync up with mestery one more time and I’ll respin the patch15:36
armaxthanks for your patiance15:36
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anteayathanks armax15:36
jeblairarmax: thank you15:36
fungithis is one of those where i think if it's not ready for neutron to own it, propose it to the tc as a new project which might one day merge with neutron (or might not)15:36
anteayaother than not being a guy, it is always a pleasure to chat15:37
mesteryAwesome as always armax, lets sync once this meeting is done15:37
armaxone more question, though15:37
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armaxis there a timeline for stackforge to go away altogehter or is not going to happen?15:37
jeblairarmax: too early to say.  See
armaxjeblair: thanks for the pointer15:38
jeblairarmax: regardless, the intent is not to reduce the level of service; just organize things more efficiently.15:38
jeblairso people should still propose to add projects to... somewhere.  :)15:38
jeblairi just want them to end up in the right place from the start15:38
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jeblairmordred, greghaynes: in Iba84b8d578efa8cb7f5af85a5ffbc97f945a47c9 you made the fake client a global module-level singleton.  this means it is shared across all tests.  which means i can't write a unit test for leaking nodes.15:39
jeblairmordred, greghaynes: is there a reason you did that?15:39
armaxjeblair: makes sense15:39
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Refactor err reporting of incorrect YAML structure
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greghaynesjeblair: at the time there was state that needed to be shared between nova and glance fake clients15:41
AJaegerjeblair: This might be a topic for the next IRC meeting, I only recently started pushing projects to openstack namespace15:41
* AJaeger will be back later...15:41
greghaynesjeblair: oh, thats the shade change15:42
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greghaynesjeblair: that was following the existing pattern, they were globals before just they were created at import time not first run15:42
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jeblairoh, i need to git blame farther back15:43
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greghaynesYep, and youll find that im the cause of that one too ;)15:43
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bhunter71dear lazyweb, can someone remind me what UTC time is the 3rd party meeting? (thanks!)15:43
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greghaynesIt happened when we started actually testing the clients rather than stubbing out the methods that would call the clients - we needed image info to be shared between nova and images_client15:44
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anteayabhunter71: control-f third-party15:44
greghaynesjeblair: I dont think theres a great way around it, thats kind of a problem with fakes in general, maybe we should add a fakes resetting to the base test case cleanup?15:45
jeblairgreghaynes: are you sure?  it kind of looks like someone named "James E. Blair" wrote that line :)15:45
pelixany other JJB core reviews able to look through a few of the needs a final +2 review,,dashboards/important-changes:review-inbox-dashboard15:45
greghaynesoh? im off the hook?15:45
jeblairgreghaynes: no takebacks!15:45
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asselincan I get some review on this zuul change. fixes a bug that impacts 3rd party ci folks:
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Create stackalytics.o.o under -infra
jeblairgreghaynes: closures to the rescue15:53
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Bump puppet-memcached to v2.6.0
mesteryanteaya: If you have some review cycles, this would be awesome to get some eyes on:
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sdake_fungi quick q about gating policies15:54
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-stackalytics: Initial commit for puppet-stackalytics
sdake_fugni happen to be around?15:55
sdake_fungi happen to be around?15:55
fungisdake_: i am (though in a meeting) but there are lots of people here who can likely also answer15:56
sdake_fungi ok i'll ask away then - the reason I came to you is I am sure you said at one point you didn't want the builders tied up for multiple hours15:56
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sdake_it could have been someone else - but I think it was you :)15:56
jeblairwe generally like to have gating jobs run in < 1 hour15:57
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sdake_in kolla we want to gate on every distro we maintain in kolla and within that we have two types (from source, from binary)15:57
jeblairthe "rule" is a little more strongly enforced for projects that participate in the openstack integrated gate15:57
sdake_this results in about 10 jobs15:57
pabelangerSo this is twice now that I have see the following error from zuul "This change depends on a change that failed to merge."15:57
anteayamestery: I have family for lunch and then have to run an errand, will review later this afternoon15:57
pabelangerhowever my Depends-On was a successful run15:57
sdake_jeblair our job atm takes 40 minutes15:57
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sdake_jeblair the question is about resources, i think fungi mentioned he didn't want the fedora builders tied up for hours on end15:58
pabelanger is the review in question15:58
fungisdake_: yeah, it's less a concern over the number of jobs, more over the duration of individual jobs15:58
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jeblairsdake_: all the resources are dynamically provisioned, so if more fedora nodes are needed, they are created15:58
sdake_jeblair is there a limited set of fedora builders, and if so, is that numbber large enough to handle 10 parallel jobs of kolla gating?15:58
fungisdake_: nope, not limited at all15:58
sdake_nice thanks guys15:58
fungiother than by our overall quota15:58
sdake_yup got that part15:59
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sdake_thanks guys, sorry for interrupting your meeting fungi :)15:59
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Submit new project puppet-openstack-cookiecutter
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openstackgerritJohn L. Villalovos proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Create individual ICS files and add to webpage
fungisdake_: so apologies if you misunderstood and thought i expressed concern over aggregate wall clock time across your testset, just want to avoid having individual workers occupied by a single job for hours on end, especially if there are other projects sharing a change queue with the one running those16:00
fungibecause that can cause delays for them getting test results/merges16:00
mesteryanteaya: thank you!16:02
openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Convert ironicclient node.list() call to Task
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marcusvrn1patrickeast: ping16:03
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patrickeastmarcusvrn1: hey16:04
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SpamapSmordred: aha! so my insistence on documentation existing instead turned into the opportunity to abandon a patch. Lovely.16:06
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marcusvrn1patrickeast: hi! I'll start the pagination, and I took a look and we can do the pagination from server and/or client side. I think the best approach is to do the pagination in the server side, get from db only X results per page...what do you think?16:09
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patrickeastmarcusvrn1: sounds like a good approach to me, should make it pretty flexible16:14
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jeblairpatrickeast, marcusvrn1: what project are you talking about?16:14
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patrickeastjeblair: this thing
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jeblairpatrickeast: is this for the third-party ci dashboard?16:16
patrickeastyea kinda16:16
patrickeastor its maybe short term fill in16:16
jeblairpatrickeast: would you mind creating an infra-spec for it?
asselinjeblair, I signed up for that16:16
jeblairasselin: oh ok :)16:17
asselinbut haven't gotten to it yet16:17
asselinshould be soon16:17
openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Convert ironicclient node.list() call to Task
jeblairokay.  seeing people dive into implementation details before we have consensus worries me16:17
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openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Convert ironicclient node.validate() call to Task
asselinjeblair, well actually, 3rd party decided to dive into implementation for short term, then get concensus for long-term16:18
patrickeastyea so its kind of in an interesting place, its already somewhat built and several of us are using it internally16:19
asselinjeblair, the spec I plan to write is to host that implementation in -infra...until a long term solution is avaiable16:19
ShrewsTheJulia: shade reviews and could use your eyes as you find time16:19
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krtaylorasselin, I'll take the pen on it if you are too busy right now16:20
TheJuliaShrews: added to my list16:21
asselinkrtaylor, ok sure....sorry very busy on cinder L1 deadlines16:21
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krtaylorasselin, np, I know you are sooo busy16:21
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid: Migration of resource server
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jeblairasselin, patrickeast, krtaylor: there are three really good reasons to do this in the right order: 1) so that people don't end up writing something that doesn't get used in the intended manner; 2) to make sure that it does what it needs to; 3) to make sure that people who want to contribute know about it, know how to contribute, and know what's needed.16:22
krtaylorjeblair, I completely agree, that is exactly the same conclusion we came to in this weeks meeting16:23
jeblairgreat :)16:23
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asselinkrtaylor, I was going to write it following fungi's spec:
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krtaylorjeblair, it was a big bang, code and spec, I think it overwhelmed everyone, and in the meantime patrickeast wrote scoreboard16:26
krtayloras he said, several systems have already started using it internally16:26
krtaylorit is a good tactical solution16:27
krtaylorthen we can decide to enhance it, or go back to radar16:27
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jeblaira spec that says "this is an interim tactical solution; potential next steps ..." is still really useful :)16:27
krtayloragreed :)16:27
jeblairi expect it would have a lovely "alternatives" section :)16:27
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krtaylorjeblair, thanks for the input, I'll get a spec written up so we can throw darts at it16:28
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asselinjeblair, this zuul change can really help out 3rd party folks:
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jeblairasselin: yep, it's on my list for today, thanks16:30
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pleia2I have too much email this week16:43
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sdakefungi i didn't misunderstand, I just wasn't entirely clear - so thanks for helping clarify that - jeblair as well :) infra++16:51
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create networking-sfc project
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armaxmestery: ^^16:52
mesteryarmax: done16:53
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make neutron-dvr job voting at the gate
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openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add a non-voting py34 check job to Cinder
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Wait longer for root device to become available
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greghaynesbnemec: becaue enterprise hardware16:58
greghayneser, because16:58
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openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add a non-voting py34 check job to Glance
bnemecgreghaynes: That's going to be my answer to all questions starting with "why" from now on. :-)17:00
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fungigreghaynes: is enterprise hardware fueled by xml and job security?17:00
greghaynesfungi: Its the only way we know it works17:01
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fungipuppet (well, probably ruby) question... in an erb template, treating a string as a bool in a conditional, the empty string resolved true right?17:06
fungier, resolves17:06
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crinklefungi: yes17:08
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/puppet-askbot: Don't enable a chain cert if contents empty
fungicrinkle: thanks! ^ that explains my poor python programmer brain struggling with this bug17:11
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pleia2so, if I get a content changed '{md5}blahblah' to '{md5}otherblah' does puppet stash the original somewhere?17:16
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Delete leaked instances
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Isolate and persist fake client state
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jeblairgreghaynes, mordred: ^17:17
pleia2it does an identical replacement every puppet run, but I can't figure out why it keeps reverting, or what the thing it's reverting to is17:17
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jeblairpleia2: probably zanata is re-writing it?17:18
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pleia2jeblair: that was my guess too, but as a last ditch effort to debug I grabbed the live file and manually replaced things based on values we define in puppet, they're identical17:19
pleia2manually replaced in the template17:19
fungipleia2: when you md5sum the file, which hash does it match? the before or after that puppet is logging?17:19
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pleia2fungi: it matches the live xml file17:19
jeblairpleia2: (for example gerrit likes to change whitespace around)17:20
pleia2so I have no idea what the before is17:20
pleia2could be a slight whitespace change that I'm missing17:20
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fungipleia2: so your md5sum says the same thing that puppet logs changing it to, not from?17:20
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pleia2from puppetboard (and logs, obviously) content changed '{md5}abc951efdaea0d21aaa0851cd9fde513' to '{md5}77ac9feb5113adf9065ff3a82136e303'17:21
pleia2elizabeth@translate-dev:~$ md5sum /opt/wildfly/standalone/configuration/standalone.xml17:21
pleia277ac9feb5113adf9065ff3a82136e303  /opt/wildfly/standalone/configuration/standalone.xml17:21
fungiso it's not a case of puppet failing to update the file and thinking it has over and over17:21
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fungiout of sheer curiosity, is there non-ascii content in that file?17:22
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fungii'm at a loss17:25
jeblairpleia2: does something happen earlier in the puppet run to overwrite that file?  (zanata restart? unpacking an archive?)17:26
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Use dracut inst_multiple to install Python
fungitrue, this could be a very short race17:26
jeblairpleia2: to answer your actual question... puppet has a thing called filebucket17:27
pleia2this is the latest run, the change of the md5sum of the file is what triggers those unzip things
jeblairpleia2: apparently there's a command line client for it:
pleia2but even those shouldn't touch the generic wildfly xml17:28
jeblairpleia2: or you could be like me and just spelunk on the filesystem: /var/lib/puppet/clientbucket/a/b/c/9/5/1/e/f/abc951efdaea0d21aaa0851cd9fde51317:28
pleia2ah, neat, I did find /var/lib/puppet/clientbucket/ but it wasn't clear how to navigate17:28
jeblairi just did a find |grep abc95117:28
pleia2ah, the last thing there is the md5sum17:29
pleia2and turns out the first letter directories are the first bits of the md5sum17:29
jeblairlooks like it17:29
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pleia2alright, I'll look at this file and see if I can figure out where it came from17:29
jeblairdiff /var/lib/puppet/clientbucket/a/b/c/9/5/1/e/f/abc951efdaea0d21aaa0851cd9fde513/contents /opt/wildfly/standalone/configuration/standalone.xml17:30
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jeblair<             <inet-address value="${}"/>17:30
jeblair>             <inet-address value="${}"/>17:30
jeblairso maybe that's a clue17:30
pleia2<             <inet-address value="${}"/>17:30
pleia2>             <inet-address value="${}"/>17:30
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pleia2thanks, I'll fix from here17:31
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nibalizerodd that it overwrites its config file but it is pretty clear what it is doing17:31
nibalizerthink if you just set that in puppet we can converge?17:31
pleia2hoping so17:32
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Move yaml functions into its own class
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openstackgerritElizabeth K. Joseph proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zanata: Sync template with automatic changes
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greghaynesjeblair: The logic you have for determining whether a node is 'leaked' has me confused - why do we only check if we know about a node if it doesnt have a snapshot_image_id?17:42
jeblairgreghaynes: are you talking about the test or the actual change?17:43
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SukhdevHey Folks, I am hitting this bug as of this morning as well - any workarounds? -
openstackLaunchpad bug 1466123 in python-muranoclient "[python-muranoclient] required oslo.utils version conflicts with nova requirements" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Stan Lagun (slagun)17:45
jeblairgreghaynes: ah, node_id and snapshot_image_id are mutually exclusive.  either an instance was for a node (in which case it gets a node_id), or it was a template vm for a snapshot (in which case it gets a snapshot_image_id)17:45
fungidhellmann: dims: ^ ?17:45
greghaynesjeblair: ah, for some reason I was thinking snapshot_image_id was the snapshot a node came from17:46
greghaynesthat makes a lot more sense17:46
jeblairgreghaynes: right.  we do record the image name in the metadata, mostly for fun, but doesn't factor in to the leak determination17:46
dimsfungi: looking17:46
fungisuspecting muranoclient may not have applied their reqs sync, but just making sure this isn't release related17:47
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Delete leaked instances
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Isolate and persist fake client state
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Sukhdevfungi: any idea on this one?
openstackLaunchpad bug 1466123 in python-muranoclient "[python-muranoclient] required oslo.utils version conflicts with nova requirements" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Stan Lagun (slagun)17:48
Sukhdevfungi: I am hitting in my CI since this morning17:48
dimsfungi: we have not released nova or python-novaclient with that oslo.utils requirements limits17:48
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fungiSukhdev: dims: seems that python-muranoclient also does not receive sync patches from openstack/requirements anyway17:49
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openstackgerritGraham Hayes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add openstack/designate-dashboard to the DNS Services project
Sukhdevdims fungi: I upgraded python-novaclient as well oslo.utils - no help17:50
dimsSukhdev: they need to remove the upper limit, looks like they made a mistake17:50
dimsi mean in python-muranoclient17:50
fungiSukhdev: yeah, that's the bug we were just discussing. sorry if i confused you17:51
fungithey seem to have decided to manage their dependencies by hand17:51
fungiso talk to the murano devs17:51
Sukhdevdims, fungi: what surprises me that jenkins gate is not hit and some other CIs are not hit17:51
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fungiSukhdev: we don't gate other projects on murano17:51
dimsSukhdev: happens only if you throw murano into the mix17:52
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fungiat lease we don't as far as i know17:52
fungiso chances are this is impacting jobs running against murano/python-muranoclient but unlikely any other projects have seen it17:52
openstackgerritBenjamin Pflanz proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Don't parse git log header for topic
Sukhdevfungi dims: We do not run murano in our CI as well - I will check if I have any weird dependency :-)17:53
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AJaegersdake_: I fear I confused you ;(17:56
sdake_confused how17:56
sdake_did I just do a bunch of work that will annoy a bunch of people :)17:56
kialldhellmann: Heya - Does you -2 on this still stand? Designate's stable/kilo branch can't have it's requirements installed due to version conflicts, as KS middleware uses an uncapped version for KS client and pycadf17:56
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kialle.g. the old faithful: error: oslo.config 1.9.3 is installed but oslo.config>=1.11.0 is required by set(['pycadf'])17:56
Sukhdevdims, fungi : I just verified, we have no murano dependency - intact, we do not have python-muranoclient installed at all, but, still hitting this bug17:57
fungiSukhdev: are you sure it's _that_ bug?17:57
openstackgerritGraham Hayes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add openstack/designate-dashboard to the DNS Services project
AJaegersdake_: regarding murano-ui, seems my instructions are not good enough ;)17:57
fungiSukhdev: as in you have no python-muranoclient in your jobs but you're getting an error about python-muranoclient wanting a particular oslo.utils version?17:57
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Sukhdevfungi: let me paste my error - it looks exactly the same that is in that bug17:57
AJaegersdake_: Let me change the governance change for you - and please read also
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create Magnum UI repo
AJaegersdake_: updated both commit messages. We want to merge first the project-config change, then the governance is a simple house keeping task.18:00
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fungiSukhdev: don't paste it in here, paste it to and then mention the resulting url in here18:01
Sukhdevfungi: sorry got disconnected -18:01
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fungiSukhdev: it might help to include some context prior to the error as well so we can see what's pulling in python-muranoclient, since it might be a transitive dependency of something else18:01
Sukhdevfungi: I pasted it, but, got disconnected -
fungioh, good18:02
sdakeajaeger sounds good18:02
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AJaegerarmax, mestery: we do need a governance change for networking-sfc - just for house keeping18:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-specs: Fix repositories section of puppet4 spec
mesteryAJaeger armax: I'm not sure we can get that yet, I think we're conflating the creation of the repo with it's inclusion in the Neutron Stadium18:03
armaxAJaeger: ok, what’s the purpose though?18:03
fungiSukhdev: okay, that looks like a nova problem, at least on the surface. can you find in your logs where oslo.utils is being installed, what version, and what's requesting it?18:04
armaxAJaeger: and if can’t/want just yet, where do we go from here?18:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-specs: Fix formatting in Puppet Module Functional Testing
Sukhdevfungi: I removed the entire oslo package(s) and let the devstack reinstall it - did not help18:04
fungiSukhdev: chances are there are other projects besides python-muranoclient asking for an older oslo.utils and installing a newer nova (from source or something)18:05
sdakeajaeger so any action needed on my aprt?18:05
AJaegerjeblair: could you help with your TC hat on and explain armax and mestery, please?18:05
dimsSukhdev: refresh your /opt/stack/requirements?18:05
AJaegersdake: somebody needs to fix the project-config change so that it passes the gate18:05
jeblaircatching up18:05
mesteryAJaeger: Wasn't the purpose of stackforge for just this purpose?18:05
mesteryarmax: ^^^^18:05
sdakeajaeger ack on that18:05
Sukhdevdims: ah good idea - let me try that18:05
sdakethat is bradjones action any action on my aprt18:05
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AJaegermestery, armax : Times change, with the big tent we're much more welcoming repos into the openstack name space. Either as new projects or as parts of existing projects18:06
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mesteryAJaeger: Yes, for sure ... with the consent of the PTL of each project.18:07
mesteryAJaeger: In this case, ultimately we're likley ok.18:07
mesteryAJaeger: I'm worried about the precedent it may set, but perhaps I'm being too cautious18:07
fungijust because a project isn't ready to be a part of neutron, doesn't mean they can't go to the tc and say "we're a new project, we think we might be part of neutron some day, but want to maintain some separate repos for now"18:07
jeblairmestery, armax: if you want to add a repo to neutron, you can do so with a simple ack on a project-config change along with a governance change to add it to the list.18:07
sdakebig tent + chaos = profit18:08
mesterysdake: lol18:08
mesteryLook, ultimately this is fine, but what stackforge provided us was a place to iterate on things which we aren't sure are worth taking into neutron, are controversial, etc.18:08
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armaxjeblair: well, my understanding of the inclusion of a project in the governance repo is that it follows the 4 O’s etc for instances18:08
mesteryI feel like we've lost that, but if I'm the only one, then I'll sit down quietly :)18:09
armaxjeblair: how can we tell ahead of time that this is going to the case?18:09
AJaegermestery: why do you need this inside stackforge and can't do it in openstack?18:09
jeblairand yeah, as fungi says, if the repo should not be part of neutron today, you can ask the tc to add it as a new project, but that has to come first18:09
mesteryAJaeger: See above18:09
dhellmannkiall: I can remove my -2, but I'd like to hear from someone more active on the stable before voting +218:09
AJaegermestery: I'm learning here as well ;)18:09
mesteryAJaeger: Cool, it's not just me ;)18:10
armaxAJaeger: I think the discussion on the namespace is irrelevant, either stackforge or openstack…18:10
AJaegerjeblair: so, what about controversial things or experiments? Do you see any problems like mestery does?18:10
jeblairarmax: they promise to? :)  stackforge isn't the place for projects that don't want to develop open source projects in an open source community either.18:10
armaxAJaeger: I am only puzzled if we must file a governance patch to enlist a project until it’s ready18:10
jeblairAJaeger: i think the openstack project should be able to experiment.18:10
fungiswitching openstack/nextcoolthing from being part of the nextcoolthing project to being part of the neutron project is a fairly trivial update to the openstack/governance repo. switching stackforge/nextcoolthing to openstack/nextcoolthing is an outage for several systems, a lot of multiple people's time, and in the end is basically cosmetic18:10
armaxjeblair: fair point18:10
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jeblairfungi: and highly disruptive to developers18:10
mesteryfungi: Bingo! We just want openstack/networking-sfc created WITHOUT requiring the governance patch, which could come later18:11
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mesteryOnce we know networking-sfc has consensus, is useful, etc.18:11
AJaegerarmax: If you tell us, you never will rename the repo from stackforge/X to openstack/X because of Y, we're happy ;)18:11
mesteryAre you saying to do that requires a full TC review as a new project?18:11
AJaegerarmax: But I've seen in the last months too many repos setup for a few months in stackforge and then moved to openstack18:11
jeblairmestery: yes, i think it does for now.  though 'full tc review' is fairly cursory these days.18:12
fungii'm hoping that the tc review of new projects gets a lot faster/more trivial now that they've had a few examples come through and know what to look for/care about18:12
AJaegerAnd moving costs time for everybody as fungi explained18:12
armaxAJaeger: right, and I agree that going to stackforge makes non sense, especially if it might be going away soon18:12
armaxAJaeger: all I am wondering is whether we should tie the creation of the repo with a governance patch18:12
jeblairmestery: for example, i think at the list meeting we decided to say "sure, let's do this debian packaging in openstack thing even though we're not sure how it will work out or how many people will be working on it"18:12
jeblairs/list meeting/last meeting/18:12
armaxAJaeger: I believe the two should be separate and indipedenntt18:12
AJaegerarmax, mestery : Don't assume we're picking on you - it's just that your review is currently one of two in the queue with this problematic18:12
mesteryjeblair: ack, makes sense18:12
armaxbut I am learning as much as anyone else18:13
armaxAJaeger: ya18:13
kialldhellmann: So, it seems to be causing issues.. Not sure if it's just designate's ordering of requirements.txt - or if more proejcts will be doddy - see
mesteryLook, for this case, lets just make it a part of neutron and be done18:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1463988 in Designate "oslo.config version error in kilo" [Undecided,New]18:13
mesteryAnd for things which are controversial we'll deal with them when they arrive18:13
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jeblairmestery: that sounds reasonable.  i think for a controversial thing, a governance change to say "hey we want to start this thing, we don't know where it will end up, but here's how it's going to run for a bit" is probably the way to go18:14
mesteryjeblair: That makes sense. And for things which are totally controversial we'll just kill them before they start :)18:14
fungione valid thought experiment is to consider whether this project could be successful yet you would reject it as a part of neutron. having a new repo in neutron which gains no traction and is eventually abandoned is not at all an unusual pattern in openstack18:14
jeblairmestery: even better :)18:14
mesteryGreat discussion jeblair fungi AJaeger armax!18:14
mesteryI've got it now.18:15
mesteryI'm going to document this in Neutron for future reference, thanks!18:15
jeblair(i don't think anyone knew how the debian packaging thing was going to end up, but the exercise of going to the tc was really helpful, and we found a good way to proceed with the experiment)18:15
openstackgerritGraham Hayes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add openstack/designate-dashboard to the DNS Services project
armaxok, I am going to file the governance patch18:15
armaxbear with me18:15
armaxand thanks for helping18:15
mesteryarmax: please do, and add me as a reviewer18:15
jeblairarmax: cool.  so to be clear, if it's going to neutron, the project-config change can come first, and governance can "Depends-on" it18:15
dhellmannkiall: the problem is with raising the minimum versions used on projects that have been released from the stable branch. Can you prepare a patch that caps without raising the minimums?18:16
AJaegerarmax, mestery: Thanks! If you have a Neutron policy document change, feel free to tell us as well.18:16
armaxAJaeger: yup, we’ll have that covered18:16
mesteryAJaeger: Yes, will do. This was very helpful, thanks for the discussion!18:16
kialldhellmann: ah, I see where your going18:16
AJaegerarmax: then the governance change is pure housekeeping, the TC will not vote on it but just accept it18:16
kialldhellmann: I'll give it a shot, no clue if it'll pass requirements gate though18:17
dhellmannkiall: it may require some altering of job definitions for the project, to turn off the requirements checking, since you'll be out of sync with the rest of the projects18:17
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bknudsondidn't the min raises go to all the other projects already?18:17
bknudsonthat's why I assumed it was ok to do in keystonemiddleware18:17
dhellmannbknudson: it's not the other projects, though, it's the distro packages of this project that would be affected18:17
dhellmannbknudson: it would have been an easy yes if we had landed it right after creating the branch, but at this point I'm just hesitating without thinking through the downstream implications18:18
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bknudsonI was worried about increasing the mins, too.18:18
bknudsonso I'd be happy if that part was reverted18:18
kiallOkay, I'll drop a patch up that caps, but doesn't increase the mins.. requirements gate will likely fail, would infra force that though if the rest pass?18:19
dhellmannkiall: it would be better to turn off the check job to be explicit about the fact that it's not expected to be in sync18:19
dhellmannalthough even that's not a great situation to have :-/18:19
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add the ability to abort jobs on a patch merge
kiallIn theory - stable/kilo global-requirments are now fixed, right? At least a one off force wouldn't let a future change though by mistake?18:20
dhellmannkiall: it puts you in a state where future changes to that file also have to be forced, though18:21
lifelessmordred: we can change the log order18:21
Sukhdevdims, fungi : no help with refreshing /opt/stack/requirements as well18:21
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kiallSure, but shouldn't there not be any for the stable/kilo branch of the global-requirements file?18:22
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fungiSukhdev: do you have public job logs you could provide a url to?18:22
kiallbe any future updates to*18:22
fungiSukhdev: it's probably somewhere in the workspace setup that the oslo.utils version is determined, assuming you're running devstack-gate18:22
dhellmannkiall: you'd think, yes.18:23
lifelessmordred: x..y can show commits not in history chain from y to x - see --ancestry-path in log help, so x..y isn't enough AFAICT18:23
dhellmannkiall: I don't think we need to force the patch. If you want to try to convince infra to go that way, that's up to you.18:23
Sukhdevfungi: I did "sudo rm -rf /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo*" remove everything and let devstack reinstall it18:23
bknudsonseems safe enough to put the onus on stable reviewers to prevent crazy req updates18:24
lifelessmordred: but --topo-order should DTRT18:24
dhellmannSukhdev: I missed the link to your logs, can you post that again?18:24
dhellmannbknudson: I think we've done that for other repos18:25
lifelessmordred: (but IMBW) - its worth having a play around; doing a for loop over tag intervals will be much slower18:25
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fungiSukhdev: Collecting oslo.utils<1.5.0,>=1.4.0 (from python-openstackclient>=1.0.3)18:26
fungiSukhdev: that looks not so great18:26
dhellmannSukhdev: yep, I just saw that too: 2015-06-17 18:18:11.95018:26
kiallbknudson / dhellmann - updated version of the change without the changes to the min versions:
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dhellmannkiall: let's see what jenkins sais18:27
bknudsonthe changeid changed18:27
Sukhdevfungi dhellmann : So, you believe python-openstackclient is pulling wrong version of oslo.utils?18:27
Sukhdevlet me upgrade it18:27
kiallbknudson: I did that intentionally, wanted to leave the orignal there18:27
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dhellmannSukhdev: it's being installed by devsstack there18:28
fungiSukhdev: that is probably the requirement in the latest release of openstackclient but i'm double-checking now18:28
dhellmannSukhdev: are you using devstack master?18:28
bknudsonkiall: the original proposed change will always be there, it's patch set 418:28
Sukhdevdhellmann: yes18:28
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AJaegerfungi, jeblair, anteaya : We discussed the networking-sfc repo addition now long enough that I feel we should approve. I just gave my +2 on it:
kiallbknudson: sure, fair enough :) I'd usually avoid taking over the bot's patches - but done :)18:29
fungidhellmann: Sukhdev: okay, so it's not latest openstackclient doing it at least. it's not capping the oslo.utils requirement18:29
fungidigging backward18:29
cathy__AJaeger: so are we going to pull the SFC repo in openstack, right?18:30
AJaegercathy__: yes18:30
Sukhdevfungi, dhellmann: I just wiped out all python clients and all of oslo and kicking off a new run to see if that is any help :-)18:30
dhellmannfungi, Sukhdev : we should only have caps in stable branches18:30
dimsSukhdev: nuke requirements too18:30
dhellmannSukhdev: is this raw master, or with a plugin, or something else?18:30
Sukhdevdims: did that too - forgot to mention18:31
jeblairAJaeger: sounds good18:31
cathy__AJaeger: OK, thanks.18:31
Sukhdevdhellmann: raw master, with Arista ML2 driver18:31
fungidhellmann: Sukhdev: right, looks like the openstackclient releases don't actually have caps on oslo.utils so it's not a problem with the actual released packages18:31
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mordredlifeless: agree. doesn't need immediate solving. playing to find the right solution is cheeky nandos18:33
kiallmordred / fungi - BTW, goverance repo change for designate-dashboard repo landed.. project-config change should be OK to go now:
lifelessmordred: sic18:34
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dhellmannSukhdev: if you run "pip_install 'python-openstackclient>=1.0.3'" what version do you get?18:35
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dhellmannSukhdev, fungi : I wonder if there's a caching issue in play here18:36
fungidhellmann: Sukhdev: or an outdated mirror?18:36
dhellmannfungi: yep18:36
fungiunfortunately that log doesn't say where it's getting everything. could also be the local wheel cache if newer pip is in play18:37
Sukhdevdhellmann: I wiped out all the python clients - and let devstack reinstall - I hoping it is pulling all latest18:38
Sukhdevfungi: where could it be?18:38
fungiSukhdev: does your ci system reuse the same worker machines? does it run tests for changes to both master and stable branches of something?18:39
fungiSukhdev: ~/.cache/pip18:39
Sukhdevfungi: yes to your question18:39
fungiyou might try blowing that away and see what happens, just to see if maybe you're caching older wheels on a stable branch job and then your master job is reusing that cache18:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add manila-image-elements to OpenStack
fungiwhich would explain why we don't see this upstream. we don't reuse workers and don't (currently anyway) run with a primed pip wheelhouse18:40
Sukhdevfungi: yes, just blew away the .cache/pip - lets see what happens next18:41
lifelesswheels don't change deps randomly though18:41
lifelessit could be a py2 vs py3 thing though, with incorrectly marked universal wheels18:41
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Sukhdevfungi: just kicked off new run - lets see what happens :-)18:41
lifelesswhich reminds me, I should ask tchaypo / Nakato to look at erroring out universal wheel + py-specific-requirements-files18:41
fungilifeless: if you have a cached wheel which meets the requirements range you specify, even though there are newer wheels/sdists available on pypi, will pip prefer the older cached version?18:42
fungiokay, then that's likely not the issue directly i guess18:42
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lifelessperhaps pip 1.5.2 or something might be bad18:42
lifelessI don't know the deep history18:42
lifelessI know there is an explicit test that -f doesn't influence version selection with wheels18:43
lifelessand that the new cache is tied in after the finder so it can't influence version selection18:43
fungithat's reassuring at least18:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Create networking-sfc project
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Sukhdevfungi: clearing the cache did the trick18:58
Sukhdevfungi: it is happy now18:58
Sukhdevfungi: So, wiping out entire oslo, all python clients, and /opt/stack/requirements did not do it -18:58
fungiSukhdev: interesting. so in theory the pip cache shouldn't affect this. what version of pip is installed?18:59
Sukhdevfungi: in addition, clearing the ./cache/pip did it - so, looks like your theory about package version matching from cache may have some credence to it18:59
fungiit's possible there's a subtle pip bug here. if you can keep an eye out for some combination of factors to give us an idea of how to reproduce it the next time it shows up, that would be helpful19:00
Sukhdevfungi: it shows 7.0.219:00
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Sukhdevsorry 7.0.319:01
fungithat's the latest version19:01
fungiat least last time i checked19:01
fungiyep, still is
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Sukhdevfungi: So, what ever it is worth - this was an interesting finding, and I think your theory about version matching from cache seem to make sense19:02
Sukhdevfungi: even though it should not, but, it seems like it did in this case :-):-)19:02
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fungiit makes sense except for the fact that pip is supposed to be smarter than that with its cache handling19:02
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fungiso, yes, please keep an eye out for any recurrence and maybe we can figure out the reason it's doing that19:03
Sukhdevfungi: will do, and as usual, thanks for your help19:03
fungiSukhdev: you're welcome!19:04
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cathy__andreaf: now that networking-sfc repo has been created in openstack, I would like to add those who have actively working and committed to the development of this feature to the networking-sfc-core and networking-sfc-release. Could you advise how I can do that?19:09
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openstackgerritGreg Hellings proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Add support for local versioning schemes
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cathy__I am leaving for lunch now and will join later19:15
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Pull serialisation out of _sync_requirements_file.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Remove spurious output in test suite.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Also update extras in setup.cfg.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Handle : as well as ; for markers.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Mark as Python2.7 only the dependencies that are.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Add upper-constraints.txt.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Add upper-constraints.txt generator.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Remove the shebang from generated's.
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/requirements: Bump cliff to 1.13.0
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add pre/post hook support to networking-odl
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mesteryWould anyone have a chance to look at this patch which unlocks some useful stuff for ODL with regards to controlling it's testing jobs?
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add grafyaml-coverage tests
fungijust a heads up, my afternoon is somewhat crippled by a dead cpu fan in my primary workstation. i'm around, but perhaps not as responsive as usual19:54
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pleia2if people can have a look at this, landing it will hopefully stop zanata from restarting on every puppet run
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pleia2and if not, give me the opportunity to figure out another fix ;)20:00
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fungipleia2: i'll trade you for similar reasons20:02
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fungialso, the replacement cpu fan for this system is disappointingly hard to find20:04
greghaynestime to drop the machine in a bucket of mineral oil?20:05
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pleia2fungi: oof, good luck :\20:05
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fungigreghaynes: i already doused the fan with wd4020:06
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fungithat didn't help. i'll likely end up tearing it apart to try to clean it out, but this is an ultracompact system, so teensy sideways turbine20:07
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greghaynesyea, I just meant leave it in mineral oil rather than dealing with a fan ;)20:07
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clarkbfungi lwft a question on that one20:08
fungiwoah! wd40 to the rescue. i left the bios screen with the hardware monitor up to see what would happen to the cpu running fanless with convection only, and now i have the fan clocking at 5krpm again20:10
fungii guess it just needed a rest20:10
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fungiclarkb: thanks20:10
fungigreghaynes: oh, heh yeah mineral oil contact cooling. i've seen pictures20:11
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fungii used to help my younger brother with some more exotic water-cooling rigs for overclocking20:11
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greghaynesI actually did propylene glycol last time I had to do something like that, in thoery its saferish20:12
fungithe evaporative unit with the shower head and the toilet tank was impressive, but the best one turned out to be forced cooling with an old water fountain chiller20:12
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hodosjgriffith: hi John, can you please share details on your opestack cloud you are using for CI? Is it 1 server running Ubuntu/KVM?20:15
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anteayafungi: glad your fan is back in action20:23
fungianteaya: well, i'm not counting my chickens just yet. letting it idle on the bios screen for a while, make sure the fan keeps up pace and the cpu stays at a nice cool <70c20:24
fungialso going to (hopefully) find and order a replacement anyway20:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-zanata: Sync template with automatic changes
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anteayafungi: luck to you as you search and order20:26
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RichardRaseleyCould someone (e.g. AJaeger) help me better understand the cause of the CI failures in this ( patch?20:27
vinay_yadhavHi, could someone please help me how to get added as an admin to the stackforge repository that we just created by the patch we submitted20:30
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anteayaRichardRaseley: looks like zuul cloner time outs20:34
anteayaRichardRaseley: try a recheck, add a comment with recheck as the first word20:34
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anteayavinay_yadhav: what project and do you have a link to the patch that created the repo?20:34
davideagnelloHello, trying to get this patch merged:
RichardRaseleyanteaya: Thank you, will do.20:34
vinay_yadhavhi anteaya20:34
vinay_yadhavyea i have the link20:35
anteayaRichardRaseley: thanks, if you have trusty and centos failures again, do come back with the link20:35
vinay_yadhavonce sec20:35
RichardRaseleyanteaya: Will do20:35
anteayaRichardRaseley: thank you20:35
vinay_yadhavthis is the patch
vinay_yadhavanteaya: this is the patch
anteayapleia2: if you have a chance can you add vinay_yadhav to,members and,members please20:37
vinay_yadhavi had created it and signed off20:37
anteayavinay_yadhav: I see20:37
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vinay_yadhavanteaya: do i need to specify my email20:39
anteayavinay_yadhav: no20:39
vinay_yadhavor as a creator of the patch will i be automatically identified20:39
anteayawe just need someone with gerrit admin permissions to read backscroll20:39
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anteayasomeone should have a minute soon20:39
anteayavinay_yadhav: I can see your name in the patch20:40
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vinay_yadhavanteaya: Thank you!20:40
vinay_yadhavanteaya: i shall now wait till i get added to the groups20:40
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anteayaI find making a cup of tea a useful activity in situations like this20:41
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fungiwhat's funny is that's what i was doing20:44
fungianyway, tea made, now trying to add vinay_yadhav to those groups but there's a problem20:44
fungiduplicate accounts20:44
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fungii'll see if i can figure out which one is the right account shortly and get the other disabled20:45
anteayaha ha ha20:45
anteayacup of tea is always a good idea20:46
anteaya:( to dup accounts20:46
openstackgerritGreg Hellings proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Add support for local versioning schemes
vinay_yadhavhi fungi: do you have an issue with my Id20:46
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fungivinay_yadhav: it looks like you ended up with two different launchpad openids with the same e-mail address20:47
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vinay_yadhavi should be using the email ID20:47
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fungivinay_yadhav: they both are. there are two accounts for that e-mail address in gerrit, and that prevents you from being added to reviews and groups20:48
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fungiso i have to go into the database and deduplicate the accounts. i'll do that shortly once i get my workstation back online20:48
vinay_yadhavfungi: thanks a lot20:49
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/requirements: [WIP] Kicking the oslo.service tires
openstackgerritBenjamin Pflanz proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Don't parse git log header for topic
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jgriffithhodos: It's an OpenStack Juno deployment with 1 control node and 3 compute nodes (today)20:53
jgriffithhodos: I have had a dedicated single node all in one in the past (and may get one again)20:54
jgriffithhodos: yes.. Ubuntu 14.04 and KVM/libvirt20:54
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vinay_yadhavfungi: can you use my accountID: 1167420:54
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hodosjgriffith: so, did that single all in one suffice your CI needs in terms of perf?20:55
pleia2oof, should have read more backscroll, just found the duplicate accounts myself20:55
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fungivinay_yadhav: yeah, looks like you created two accounts, the older one (11654) has a username of vinayyadhav and the newer one (11674) has a username of vnyyad20:57
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vinay_yadhavuse the newer one please 1167420:58
fungivinay_yadhav: i'm going to disable the older 11654 account, but you'll want to make sure you're using that newer vnyyad username from 11674 when you upload changes to gerrit, not the older vinayyadhav username20:58
EmilienMI'm lost. I can't tag puppet modules. *help*20:59
vinay_yadhavsure i will do that20:59
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Update query for bug 1413034
openstackbug 1413034 in OpenStack-Gate "Download of failed" [Undecided,Confirmed]
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EmilienMin fact is good.21:00
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fungivinay_yadhav: okay, done. the old account is set inactive and i've added your current (11674) account to both those groups21:01
vinay_yadhavfungi: thanks a lot! would i get a confirm on this or is it visible on the git page of the project21:02
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fungivinay_yadhav: there's no confirmation e-mail, but you can go to those group management urls anteaya pasted earlier and see that you're a member of both (core and release) and can add other members to them now as needed21:03
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fungiEmilienM: make sure you're using signed tags. see for a recommended tag pushing workflow21:03
fungiEmilienM: a quick check of some puppet module acls suggests that you do have the necessary permissions21:04
EmilienMfungi: this is exactly my issue, thx. I'm fixing my gpg thing21:04
EmilienMwe do21:04
vinay_yadhavfungi: Thanks for you help! will do that21:04
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/puppet-askbot: Don't enable a chain cert if contents empty
fungiclarkb: pleia2: ^ fixed as requested21:05
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fungiif that gets merged shortly, i'll give 172880 another shot shortly21:08
fungior longly21:08
fungii really don't know21:08
fungiclarkb: oh, now i remember why i had that as two checks. if someone passes in undef for that value, will it be considered != ''?21:09
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fungibecause we basically don't want to match if it's undef or ''21:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder: Add debian build test case
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add puppet-zaqar Repository to Puppet Modules Project
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clarkbfungi is the default ''? if so we dont need the undef check because undef doesnt override defaults21:13
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fungiclarkb: yep, '' is default, though the says to set it to undef in its example. i guess that's safe as you say?21:13
openstackgerritGeorge Peristerakis proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Moved the log config file generator in nodepool.
clarkbfungi ya though puppet 4 may make it unsafe so the extra check likely doesnt hurt21:14
fungiwell, we can worry about that when puppet 4 comes to town. i'm sure we have a bazillion instances of this to fix21:15
fungione more isn't going to hurt21:15
fungithere are dozens of places in that module alone where we rely on '' defaults21:16
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openstackgerritElizabeth K. Joseph proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zanata: Rewrite download and unzip logic for modules
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openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Set some more defaults for linux bridge
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Convert ironicclient node.list() call to Task
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armaxhi, now that a project has been provisioned do I go to storyboard to ask for adding a member to the core/release team?21:49
armaxor shall I ask here directly? I am not clear from
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armaxanteaya: ^^^ do you happen to know? (I am sure you do)21:51
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openstackgerritMohammed Naser proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Added VEXXHOST CloudAgent Element
openstackgerritElizabeth K. Joseph proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zanata: Rewrite download and unzip logic for modules
openstackgerritDavide Guerri proposed openstack-infra/shade: Centralize exception management for Neutron
fungiarmax: i can add you. what are the group names?21:56
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fungiahh, networking-sfc-core and -release21:57
armaxfungi: thanks, networking-sfc-core/release ==> ids: 968 and 969 respectively21:57
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armaxfungi is there a way where the patch owner can be automatically preprovisioned? Or is the manual step deliberate?21:58
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: puppet: make Puppet 4 unit test jobs voting
fungiarmax: it's possible we could automate that but it's non-trivial21:59
armaxfungi: I figured21:59
fungiwhat's your gerrit id? all i'm coming up for you is a ci system in hp21:59
armaxhang on21:59
armaxI should try to fix that22:00
fungiweird. i wonder why it only wanted to typeahead complete the e-mail address and not the full name for you22:00
fungii should have just dug up the change that added it22:00
fungianyway, you're in both groups now22:00
fungiand with that, i need to wander out and get groceries. back later22:00
armaxfungi: thanks a bunch22:00
fungiyou're welcome22:01
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: puppet: make Puppet 4 unit test jobs voting
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EmilienMpuppet group would like to enable voting for puppet4 (all our modules are ready), please review and give any feedback22:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-askbot: Don't enable a chain cert if contents empty
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openstackgerritDavide Guerri proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add Neutron/Nova Floating IP list/search/get
SpamapSgreghaynes: I"m just getting around to poking at the machine you set up and I am realizing I don't know how to access it22:27
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SpamapSgreghaynes: you said heat-admin@ but you didn't say what keys to use.22:27
SpamapSgreghaynes: sorry,
SpamapSfor that matter I don't know how to get onto the undercloud either22:30
* SpamapS has purged that from brain already22:30
greghaynesSpamapS: hehe22:30
greghaynesSpamapS: funny how fast that happens ;) I was having a hilarious time building nodes and redeploying them from tripleo22:31
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greghaynesSpamapS: so if you ssh into stack@bastion.hp1.tripleo.org22:31
SpamapSgreghaynes: I only know how to get on the bastion.22:31
SpamapSstack@ ahhh22:31
* SpamapS was using my cd-cloud-admin account22:31
greghaynesthat user has a key for heat-admin@$ip22:31
SpamapSI really hate that heat-admin user22:32
SpamapSgreghaynes: why did you use heat?22:32
greghaynesI didnt22:32
greghaynesI was wondering the same thing - why that user was seeded on there22:32
SpamapSI'd expect just 'nova boot'22:32
greghaynesyes, I just did a nova rebuild22:32
SpamapSthats why22:32
SpamapSdoesn't get rid of the userdata22:32
SpamapSI'm going to delete and create22:33
greghaynesI havent gotten a fresh boot working yet22:33
SpamapSI want it fresh.22:33
greghaynesok, well then you can help me debug that ;)22:33
SpamapSgreghaynes: well I was thinking of installing via virtual media.. ;)22:33
SpamapSjust to get anything old and weird out of the loop22:33
greghaynesis there a way to do that which doesnt involve booting a windows vm?22:33
SpamapSif the ilo is new enough. :)22:33
greghaynesthese are ilo3 IIRC22:34
SpamapSit's a 3.x actually22:34
SpamapS3.0 no go, 3.2 or something they made it work 100% in firefox22:34
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SpamapSyeah and they're all over the place on versions22:34
greghaynesso, when you say rebuild doesnt remove the userdata... where does that user data live?22:34
SpamapSAnyway, we can also just pxe boot manually from the bastion. ;)22:35
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SpamapSgreghaynes: dude, how hacky are you going to make this?22:35
greghaynesuh oh, I wonder which layer of hacks you found22:35
SpamapSgreghaynes: are we just playing, or are we setting up the rack for good?22:35
SpamapSgreghaynes: that userdata lives in the nova database22:35
SpamapSI don't want that image.22:36
greghaynesok, so user data is seeded from cloud-init?22:36
SpamapSthats not fresh 14.0422:36
greghayneser, seeded to22:36
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greghaynesits not? It was a dib run, should have downloaded a new cloudimg22:36
SpamapSOr did you rebuild it with a new one?22:36
SpamapSok that works22:36
greghaynesYes, I did a rebuild and passed in an ubuntu image I made from dib22:36
SpamapSthough I wouldn't make the image in dib. ;)22:36
greghaynesits the ubuntu-bm image in glance22:36
SpamapSOh you have to thats right22:37
SpamapSbecause bm22:37
greghaynesyea, you have to do the ari thing22:37
* SpamapS is still catching up to you ;)22:37
SpamapSso yes cloud-init is pulling that in from ec2 metadata22:37
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SpamapSbut I digress.22:37
SpamapSAre we just playing, or are we going to do this in the way we'd repeat it if we didn't learn anything doing it this way?22:37
greghaynesthe bastion host is 'just playing', the new host were making id like to make that repeatable22:38
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SpamapSbastion is just for jumping anyway, thats fine22:38
SpamapSThe goal should be to make the ironic hw cloud box as capable as the bastion, so we can redo the bastion as we see fit.22:39
SpamapSgreghaynes: ok, so we have a reasonably accurate hardware inventory on the bastion don't we?22:39
greghaynesSpamapS: Accurate but not complete22:40
greghaynesSpamapS: Its in /home/shared/inventory22:40
greghaynesSpamapS: and its generated by the playbook in /home/shared/playbooks/get_macs.yaml22:40
SpamapSgreghaynes: any idea why we have gaps?22:40
greghaynesSpamapS: hosts are down for $raisins. My current task is redeploying to the ones that are down so they hopefully stop being down and can get inventoried22:41
SpamapSgreghaynes: ok, anyway, back to debugging. Why won't fresh boots work?22:41
greghaynesSpamapS: Yep, that was the last question I was asking. They were failing due to some misconfiguration on the undercloud that I sorted out, now I am seeing something that looks like maybe an ironic backwards compat issue22:42
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greghaynesbasically they get stuck in waiting for the callback to ironic22:42
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SpamapSgreghaynes: oh, weird.22:42
openstackgerritDawid Malinowski proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for OWASP Dependency-Check Plugin
SpamapSgreghaynes: so maybe newer deploy ramdisks can't work with old ironic?22:42
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SpamapSgreghaynes: crazy idea... git pull ironic?22:43
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greghaynesSpamapS: that is my guess, I know theres been issues like that before. I went the other way - checked out a dib that matches same time as our ironic but still no dice22:43
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SpamapSgreghaynes: wait, more steps back. This isn't what I meant to ask. We have an accurate list of macs, ilo ips, and credentials, yes? If so, why don't we start over with a new undercloud, even if that means a manual netboot install?22:44
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SpamapSgreghaynes: I'm having a hard time justifying spending any time making a doomed undercloud work.22:45
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SpamapSwhen I know how to install what amounts to another bastion.22:45
SpamapSand that is actually the plan we laid down in the docs22:45
* SpamapS keeps forgetting to push fixed docs22:45
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Remove the shebang from generated's.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Pull serialisation out of _sync_requirements_file.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Remove spurious output in test suite.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Also update extras in setup.cfg.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Handle : as well as ; for markers.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Mark as Python2.7 only the dependencies that are.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Add upper-constraints.txt.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Add upper-constraints.txt generator.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Fix setup.cfg.
lifelessfungi: mordred: please <- this unbreaks a bunch of stuff22:46
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greghaynesSpamapS: Yea, im +1 on that actually - dont invest in redeploying with the existing undercloud22:47
openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds akanda-appliance-buildimage post job
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greghaynesSpamapS: The original though was to answer the "what hardware do we have, what is the needed info about that hardware" with as little work as possible, some of that info (like HD / CPU configuration) isnt in the data we currently have22:49
asselinclarkb, saw your name in the history of this wiki: do you know if it was ever implemented?
cathy__fungi: now that networking-sfc repo has been created in openstack, I would like to add those who have actively working and committed to the development of this feature to the networking-sfc-core and networking-sfc-release. Could you advise how I can do that?22:49
asselinhistory also mentions Ryan Lane and Todd Willey...anyone know their nicks?22:50
greghaynesSpamapS: Theres also the question of when they swap out nics, are the mac addrs they gave us still going to line up?22:51
pleia2cathy__: we here in infra add an initial user to each team, and then that user adds more people22:51
SpamapSgreghaynes: yeah thats something we should do, but I don't think we should do it with the old unmaintained undercloud. Clearly it is proving to be a time sink.22:51
SpamapSgreghaynes: right, the macs may change. That is fine.22:51
pleia2cathy__: so we just need to know who will be adding other people, and we'll get them added as the initial user22:51
openstackgerritJohn L. Villalovos proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Add href URL for the IRC channel in template
greghaynesSpamapS: Yea, I actually only spent a few hrs on that bit which was probably about how long id put into fighting virtual media, but +1 on moving on to making the new thing22:52
greghaynesSpamapS: so, new thing - masterless puppet + puppet-ironic?22:52
cathy__Could you please add me as the initial member and I will add others who have expressed commitment to this project?22:52
SpamapSgreghaynes: so I think we should just turn off _everything_. PXE boot the box with the lowest MAC into the Ubuntu installer and just manually install it, and turn that into the undercloud.22:52
pleia2cathy__: sure, what's your full name and/or email address in gerrit?22:53
cathy__pleia2: Could you please add me as the initial member?22:53
greghaynesSpamapS: well, dont turn off the bastion!22:53
SpamapSgreghaynes: right, masterless until we get it working right, then we get infra-root involved and land it all in system-config/project-config.22:53
SpamapSgreghaynes: yeah we should avoid that. ;)22:53
pleia2cathy__: you and Armando Migliaccio are already added to both these groups,members,members22:54
SpamapSmordred: do you remember who to talk to about getting different real IPs for our cloud btw?22:54
pleia2cathy__: so you just go to these pages and add more people, while logged into gerrit22:54
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SpamapSgreghaynes: so I think the way forward is to just 'nova delete' all the instances on the old busted undercloud..22:55
mordredSpamapS: yup22:55
SpamapSgreghaynes: then manually page through the screen on bastion and forcibly shut them down via the ilo22:55
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cathy__pleia2: OK, thanks!22:56
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SpamapSgreghaynes: then we can settle on one to be "undercloud" and I'll just manually PXE boot it using the bastion or virtual media if I have to?22:56
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greghaynesSpamapS: sure, a bash loop and ipmitool has been effective for me already22:57
SpamapSgreghaynes: well there you go!22:57
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greghaynesok, ill delete and shut down all the things, you make pxe?22:58
SpamapSgreghaynes: yes, installing the bits on bastion now22:58
greghaynesare you in screen? im in tmux, but can switch to screen if you think we need to22:59
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SpamapSgreghaynes: at one time there was a massive script that spawned a screen per ilo22:59
SpamapSbut I never liked it ;)22:59
greghaynesyea, I killed that so I could do inventory last week22:59
greghaynesit was hogging all the ipmitool sol's23:00
SpamapSgreghaynes: cool23:00
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greghayneshrm, so apparently my new building has a backup generator23:01
greghaynesyou would think this is an awesome thing23:01
jeblairmordred, SergeyLukjanov: please review
greghaynesexcept they test it every other week23:01
greghaynesand its loud23:01
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jeblairthat reminds me i need to do a deep-cycle test on my new ups batteries now that they are charged, so the ups can figure our their new capacity23:01
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SpamapSgreghaynes: ok, I'm going to use the same one you chose to be the undercloud.23:06
greghaynesSpamapS: SGTM23:06
greghaynesSpamapS: so, I should not nova delete that one?23:07
greghaynesSpamapS: or, you can nova delete manually first, then itll be out of my way23:07
SpamapSgreghaynes: no please do delete that one.23:07
greghaynesor, I can ;)23:07
SpamapSgreghaynes: I'm setting things up, but I'll wait until you say everything is off before proceeding23:07
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asselinmordred, could you do a quick review of this?
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asselinmorning jhesketh23:11
asselinjhesketh, could you do a quick review of  could you do a quick review of this?
asselinsimple change23:12
greghaynesSpamapS: its churning through deletes...23:12
SpamapSgreghaynes: sweet23:13
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lifelessjeblair: chmouel: sdague: if I can beg, would be really useful - its a tiny little fix to actually install the requirements repo in devstack.23:14
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lifelessI know CI hasn't checked in yet, but I've fixed the issue the first patch has, and its gotten past the stage the change introduces23:15
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Add editor files to .gitignore.
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mordredasselin: loks good to me23:16
jheskethasselin: lgtm23:18
jeblairlifeless: left a quick question on the review; mordred may have insight there too23:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul: Support external cross-project dependencies in ui
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/nodepool: Remove the need for zmq in proper demand calcs.
jheskethjeblair, pleia2, fungi: I've been working on tracking down git cloning problems further and I believe we're hitting a timeout on the ha proxy. If you have a second, a review of would be really appreciated23:21
mordredjeblair: oh - oops. I thought I'd +2d that before23:21
lifelessjeblair: that was a good question, and I've shuffled the code therein to avoid the issue23:22
asselinmordred, jhesketh thanks23:22
jeblairjhesketh: which specefic thing are you changing in that patch?23:23
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jeblairs/thing/value/ end of day words leaving brain23:23
greghaynesSpamapS: we also have a chunk of machines at the bottom of machine-information-tab.txt that are ?? and unknown ipmi ip23:23
greghaynesSpamapS: so, obviously, not gonna be able to hit them with hammer23:23
SpamapSgreghaynes: oh I didn't know we had unknown boxes23:24
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greghaynesSpamapS: yea, I had forgotten about that23:24
openstackgerritElizabeth K. Joseph proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zanata: Rewrite download and unzip logic for modules
jheskethasselin: the server and client timeouts from the default 1min to 2min23:25
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Add upper-constraints.txt.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Remove hacking and hacking-owned dependencies.
asselinjhesketh, ??23:26
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jheskethOn the ha proxy config?23:27
jheskethSorry, did I miss understand the question?23:27
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asselinjhesketh, you approved my review...I think someone else asked a question about ha proxy?23:28
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* asselin wonders if jhesketh had his coffee yet23:29
jheskethOh sorry, that was meant for jeblair, I fail at irc this morning23:29
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jheskethNope, not yet :-P23:29
jheskethjeblair: so, that change ups the server and client timeouts from the default 1min to 2min23:29
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SpamapSgreghaynes: ok can I try pxe booting?23:33
SpamapSgreghaynes: have to run fetch kids in ~5min23:33
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greghaynesSpamapS: sure, ill blacklist that mac out of my list of things im hitting23:33
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SpamapSgreghaynes: thansk, /home/shared/inventory/78:e7:d1:22:95:ed.yaml just to be clear23:34
SpamapSwhose power is currently still on23:34
SpamapSdurn it23:35
greghaynesI am battling with these ilos not listening to ipmitool23:35
SpamapSand doesn't have advanced license key yet23:35
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SpamapSgreghaynes: rate limit23:35
SpamapSgreghaynes: don't hit them too fast23:35
greghaynesI realized that the conman was still running here23:35
greghaynesso I just killed it23:35
greghaynesand all the ipmitools23:36
SpamapSoh that too doh23:36
greghaynes(I forgot that it was hp2 I killed last week)23:36
SpamapSironic just resurrected the box when I turned it off23:36
SpamapSgreghaynes: did you not delete that one yet?23:37
greghaynesSpamapS: I deleted everything. Some are in error deleting, let me see if thats one23:37
SpamapSgreghaynes: just shut off ironic at this point23:38
SpamapSits going to fight with you23:38
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greghaynesSpamapS: yes, that is one of the nodes in error deleting23:38
SpamapSLike I'd turn off the box23:38
greghaynesone sec23:38
SpamapSok, have to go23:38
greghaynesok, shutting down which is the undercloud23:38
SpamapSgood luck. ;)23:38
SpamapSgreghaynes: cool, that should also help not fighting over who gets to pxe that machine :)23:39
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greghaynesnow, the seed isnt going to force the undrecloud back on, right? ;)23:40
SpamapSgreghaynes: it might23:40
greghaynesweve created a monster23:41
SpamapSconman still up and attached to that box23:42
SpamapSbut I can't really see whats happening via conman23:42
SpamapSlooks like maybe pxe23:42
greghaynesowtf, conman is back23:42
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SpamapSlike the mcrib23:43
* SpamapS really must go23:43
greghayneshaha, I have to run an errand too so ill go do that now23:44
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cathy__fungi: we need to elect a project lead by the contributors to lead the networking-sfc project. Shall we do this at the project's IRC meeting?23:48
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lifelessmordred: fungi: <- can has +2 +A please23:52
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cathy__fungi: or is there any guideline or defined process to do this?23:54
jeblaircathy__: really good question :)  we're actually having a sprint tomorrow to write up documentation about that23:55
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jeblairanteaya: do you have documentation on 'how to run an election' handy?23:56
jeblaircathy__: the short version is that usually there's a nomination period where people self-nominate for the position, and if there's more than one, an election is held among the contributor base for the project using this system:
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jeblairjhesketh: what's going on during that > 1m?  is that the backend reading data from disk and generating pack files or something?23:58
jeblaircathy__: ^23:58
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jheskethjeblair: I suspect it might be the front end23:59
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jeblairjhesketh: is that timeout the full duration of a request, or idle time?23:59
jheskethjeblair: I worked on this yesterday in case you didn't see
jheskethit has a little more description in the comments about the tcpdumps used23:59

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