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| openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add swift specs to specs.o.o https://review.openstack.org/111865 | 00:03 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: why is 111588 WIP? | 00:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Update IRC documentation to mention logging https://review.openstack.org/109078 | 00:25 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: The tripleo specs page isnt created until a specs commit is merged AIUI | 00:30 |
| greghaynes | so its just an error site ATM | 00:30 |
| clarkb | oh right, you need to merge something so that the post job runs | 00:31 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: sdague https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111094/4 is +1 verified now. my backward compat changes seem to have worked | 00:31 |
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| clarkb | ok trusty images builds are in flight now | 00:39 |
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| ianw | mattoliverau: hi, ping : for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111646/ i'm trying to think of some fool-proof way to know you're on a rackspace host. any thoughts? | 00:40 |
| mattoliverau | let me take a look :) | 00:41 |
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| ianw | mattoliverau: hopefully someone will fix the image; i'm guessing i know why it got like that with cloud-init being installed via pip | 00:43 |
| jeblair | ianw: OMG! what in the WORLD is rackspace doing?? | 00:43 |
| jeblair | mordred, clarkb: ^ | 00:43 |
| clarkb | jeblair: they must be drinking alreeady | 00:43 |
| clarkb | jeblair: if we drink will that make it better? | 00:44 |
| jeblair | clarkb: only choice i see | 00:44 |
| ianw | jeblair: i think there maybe couldn't find the official cloud-init packages and pip-installed it | 00:44 |
| ianw | s/there/they | 00:44 |
| jeblair | phschwartz: ^ fyi | 00:44 |
| clarkb | afazekas: my goal tomorrow is to rereview the multinode d-g test stuff. I would like to do it now but just don't have the brain power | 00:45 |
| phschwartz | jeblair: What is going on? | 00:45 |
| jeblair | ianw: not to dissuade you from your current course (particularly since this isn't ready), but hopefully soon we'll build our own images from scratch using diskimage builder, and we'll be insulated from that sort of thing | 00:45 |
| phschwartz | Just caught my attention. | 00:45 |
| jeblair | phschwartz: apparently some stuff is installed on rackspace images from pip | 00:46 |
| ianw | jeblair: yeah -- i've added centos7 to d-i-b :) this is helpful for shaking out initial bugs | 00:46 |
| jeblair | phschwartz: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111646/ and ticket 140804-ord-0000134 | 00:46 |
| phschwartz | ianw: What image are you using? We don't have a lot of cloud-init images, but most are using a default package unless you are using an old debian image where cloud-init wasn't in the repo | 00:47 |
| ianw | phschwartz: this is centos7 | 00:47 |
| clarkb | afazekas: looks like it passes all of the tests and there is an explanation for why we setup networking prior to stack.sh. Why is that required? | 00:47 |
| clarkb | afazekas: is devstack not capable of creating a bridge for us? it seems like it should do these things | 00:47 |
| phschwartz | ianw: What image id? Our default centos7 shouldn't even have pip installed. | 00:48 |
| clarkb | afazekas: my concern is that devstack multinode won't actually work without devstack gate | 00:48 |
| phschwartz | unless something has changed and not all the devs were told. | 00:48 |
| clarkb | afazekas: and that is something we have tried to avoid in all of our testing of devstack | 00:48 |
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| jeblair | ianw: you are talking about a _base_ image, and not one of our images from nodepool, right? | 00:48 |
| ianw | phschwartz: CentOS 7 (PVHVM) | 00:48 |
| ianw | jeblair: yep, this happens if you just boot it plain | 00:48 |
| ianw | phschwartz: added to nodepool in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109906/1/modules/openstack_project/templates/nodepool/nodepool.yaml.erb | 00:48 |
| phschwartz | ianw: Can you give me a uuid of a running instance with the issue so I can look at the uuid for the image in glance. | 00:49 |
| ianw | phschwartz: i'll have to boot one, hang on | 00:50 |
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| ianw | phschwartz: 99e5aaae-0b98-4424-b66e-d97b2375de22 -- building/booting now | 00:51 |
| phschwartz | which region? | 00:51 |
| ianw | phschwartz: Sydney (SYD) | 00:51 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Silence drupal cron job https://review.openstack.org/110992 | 00:52 |
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| phschwartz | ianw: ok, I have the image uuid, you can kill it. ty | 00:55 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Fix formatting and indentation problems in third_party.rst https://review.openstack.org/111102 | 00:56 |
| ianw | phschwartz: if i had to guess, i think cloud-init is in EPEL and so probably someone pip-installed it. however i think just recently there are official rhel7 cloud-init packages, but i'm not sure how/when that makes it down to centos | 00:56 |
| phschwartz | They can be installed on centos the moment they are in epel | 00:57 |
| ianw | phschwartz: yeah, https://git.centos.org/summary/?r=rpms/cloud-init ; it's recent here | 00:58 |
| phschwartz | I will dig into the uuid and see what is going on. Might not be able to get back to you guys till tomorrow, I think the images team that builds them are out for the day. | 00:58 |
| ianw | phschwartz: no worries, i opened up ticket 140804-ord-0000134 if that helps | 00:59 |
| phschwartz | That is probally the reason it was hand installed. I will see when I talk to the guys if they have a timeframe for a new image with the package from the repo | 00:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add solum_guestagent pypy and python33 gate tests as non-voting https://review.openstack.org/108319 | 01:01 |
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| clarkb | woot hpcloud trusty image builds are finishing up. /me walks home | 01:03 |
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| mordred | wow. I step away for a few and I come back to see pip installed cloud-init | 01:05 |
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| rick__ | anteaya: HI! | 01:09 |
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| fungi | jeblair: so *that's* where the bug was! i had given up staring at the source to the point where i was embarking on a git bisect to try and see if i could at least identify the commit which introduced that behavior change | 01:12 |
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| phschwartz | ianw: That was the issue. Image was built before there was a centos7 version of cloud-init in epel | 01:14 |
| phschwartz | mordred: Looks like that was the path used to install on centos7 prior to the rpm being released on epel | 01:14 |
| mordred | phschwartz: spectacular | 01:15 |
| mordred | phschwartz: btw - don't know if you saw or not, but I sent in a bunch of patches to ansible over the weekend to make the plain nova module usable | 01:16 |
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| phschwartz | mordred: indeed I did see :) | 01:33 |
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| mordred | jeblair: fyi - gerrty does not do the right thing with alembic migration scripts if you don't install in develop mode | 02:14 |
| mordred | jeblair: I'll try to get aroudn to making a patch | 02:15 |
| clarkb | mordred: huh, is it not installing the scripts properly? | 02:15 |
| mordred | seems that way | 02:15 |
| clarkb | (I use pip install -e so not affected) | 02:15 |
| mordred | clarkb: yah - I'm guessing probably everyone does | 02:15 |
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| mspreitz | help, `git review -s` is stuck | 03:00 |
| clarkb | mspreitz: what do you mean by 'stuck' ? not returning on command line? | 03:00 |
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| clarkb | I am going to guess that ssh is hung somewhere due to firewalls/proxies | 03:00 |
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| mspreitz | I mean it said "Creating a git remote called "gerrit" that maps to", then the URL, then nothing more | 03:01 |
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| mspreitz | I have done this many times before with no problem | 03:01 |
| mspreitz | I have no proxy configured | 03:01 |
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| mspreitz | I am doing this on laptop at home, not behind corporate firewall | 03:02 |
| mspreitz | a finally... | 03:02 |
| mspreitz | traceback, "We don't know where your gerrit is" ... | 03:03 |
| clarkb | mspreitz: is there a .gitreview file? | 03:03 |
| mspreitz | yes | 03:03 |
| clarkb | then it may have been a network connectivity thing | 03:03 |
| clarkb | git review is going to try and do a read only op against the gerrit server | 03:04 |
| mspreitz | `ssh -p 29418 mspreitz@review.openstack.org` succeeds in opening a connection | 03:04 |
| mordred | clarkb: I was telling pcrews about the crm114 stuff wrt logstash and stuff ... you guys should talk more smartly than me | 03:04 |
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| clarkb | mordred: yup we are chatting now | 03:04 |
| clarkb | pcrews: maybe we should chat here :) | 03:04 |
| pcrews | mordred: we're chatting now :) jinx! | 03:05 |
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| pcrews | ++ | 03:05 |
| pcrews | So, for posterity's sake, clark was being kind enough to tell me what was up w/ crm114 (that it is running, what data is available and how to make it more accessible). | 03:05 |
| clarkb | pcrews: so ya, on your end of things it may be good to just start looking at the data and hacking on https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/log_processor/files/classify-log.crm as necessary | 03:05 |
| * mordred will draw pcrews into the scary world of #openstack-infra if it kills him | 03:06 | |
| clarkb | also that idea I had about making the uncategorized failures page link to queries that use error_pr | 03:06 |
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| pcrews | Initial plan is to look at filters + maybe patch the elastic-recheck uncategorized report as well. | 03:06 |
| clarkb | and I should do a better job about updating the bug tracking the logstash <-> crm114 derps | 03:06 |
| mspreitz | clarkb: so I blew the whole directory away and started over with a `git clone git://git.openstack.org/openstack/ceilometer.git` --- that worked just fine | 03:06 |
| * pcrews has been delving into infra - perhaps it should be worrisome that it seems to make so much sense ;) | 03:06 | |
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| mspreitz | and retrying `git review -s`, this time it worked! | 03:07 |
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| mordred | mspreitz: I think it's best to just back away slowly and not ask too many questions ... | 03:07 |
| pcrews | clarkb: so, I'll poke at that and also see about submitting that patch for elastic-recheck. Gracias for the time and info, wise sir. | 03:07 |
| * mspreitz nods in agreement | 03:08 | |
| clarkb | pcrews: np, let me know if you need more info | 03:08 |
| pcrews | aye - http://troll.me/images/moar/moar-info-please-thumb.jpg :) | 03:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: namos - openstack infra device and service manager https://review.openstack.org/109494 | 03:54 |
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| mspreitz | `git review` is failing | 04:57 |
| clarkb | mspreitz: need more info | 04:57 |
| clarkb | git review -v may be helpful | 04:57 |
| mspreitz | third try is in progress | 04:57 |
| mspreitz | 1st two failed the same way... | 04:57 |
| mspreitz | "fetching Gerrit" | 04:58 |
| mspreitz | and then "Write failed: Broken pipe" | 04:58 |
| clarkb | mspreitz: I think your connection to gerrit is bad | 04:58 |
| mspreitz | `ssh -p 29418 mspreitz@review.openstack.org` works just fine | 04:58 |
| clarkb | mspreitz: is it possible you are hitting it over ipv6 with git review? | 04:58 |
| mspreitz | I tried ssh twice, success both times | 04:58 |
| clarkb | or something like that | 04:58 |
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| mspreitz | clarkb: I am on laptop at home, on wireless home network. Laptop's IPv6 address is a link-local address, only. | 04:59 |
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| clarkb | what does `mtr review.openstack.org` look like? is there a hop that is unhappy? | 05:00 |
| mspreitz | I see no "mtr" here. I tried traceroute. Got there on the 18th hop. Hops 2 and 14 show all asterisks, all others show 3 good things | 05:02 |
| clarkb | mspreitz: mtr is like traceroute on steroids and shows you packet loss over time by pinging the intermediate hops | 05:03 |
| clarkb | mspreitz: a local test of `git review` against the sandbox repo has no problems setting up then pushing | 05:03 |
| mspreitz | Is there a version for MacOS 10.8? | 05:03 |
| clarkb | no idea | 05:03 |
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| clarkb | mspreitz: you might try running stream events and see if that connection dies after some period of time? ssh -p29418 review.openstack.org gerrit stream-events iirc | 05:05 |
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| clarkb | yup gerrit stream-events | 05:06 |
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| rick__ | anteaya: Do you here? | 05:11 |
| mspreitz | clarkb: sorry for the pause, I found an mtr package and installed it, but could not find the mtr program... | 05:12 |
| mspreitz | I just ran `git review -v`, and it worked without problem | 05:12 |
| clarkb | mspreitz: you might try starting up a longer lived connection like stream events and see if it dies | 05:13 |
| mspreitz | OK, but first, tell me about git review -v, I am not familiar with it... is it just a verbose form of git review? | 05:13 |
| clarkb | mspreitz: yup, it basically gives you a trace of what it is doing | 05:14 |
| clarkb | mspreitz: which is handy when it breaks as you can identify the actual step that broke | 05:14 |
| mspreitz | clarkb: thanks. I have launched `ssh -p29418 review.openstack.org gerrit stream-events`, and it has printed a few things, and no breakage yet | 05:15 |
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| mspreitz | clarkb: that event stream is continuing with no problem. | 05:18 |
| mspreitz | clarkb: so I am mystified about why `git review` fails three times but `git review -v` and the event stream succeed. | 05:18 |
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| mspreitz | clarkb: the event stream just died with a broken pipe | 05:27 |
| clarkb | cool progress | 05:27 |
| clarkb | there must be a network issues of some sort between you and there | 05:28 |
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| mspreitz | I guess so | 05:28 |
| clarkb | stream events rules out any git specific issues too | 05:28 |
| mspreitz | odd that it consistently hit every use of `git review` | 05:28 |
| clarkb | I wonder if you just open a telnet/nc connection if it will die | 05:28 |
| clarkb | mspreitz: well a lot of connections are used iirc with git review | 05:29 |
| clarkb | so chances of hitting it probably go up | 05:29 |
| mspreitz | ah, that could be it | 05:29 |
| mspreitz | Now my browser is stuck fetching a page from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki | 05:29 |
| mspreitz | I think this is God's way of telling me to get some sleep | 05:29 |
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| kashyap | Heya, wondering if anyone know if I can I edit gerrit Username (to match my LP Username) in review.o.o settings, and assume everything Just Works? | 06:04 |
| flaper87 | Guys, I tried to release a new version of glance.store on pypi but the job failed w/ 403 code. SergeyLukjanov mentioned that the project has to be created manually on pypi, could some of you do that for me? https://pypi.python.org/pypi/glance.store | 06:05 |
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| mordred | flaper87: done | 06:06 |
| flaper87 | mordred: awesome, thanks! | 06:07 |
| mordred | flaper87: also, Invalid classifier "Development Status :: 4 - Alpha" | 06:07 |
| mordred | fwiw | 06:07 |
| flaper87 | oh, mmh, I'll fix that | 06:07 |
| flaper87 | mordred: could you re-trigger the publish job? | 06:07 |
| flaper87 | or is there a way I can do that? | 06:07 |
| flaper87 | I'll just release a new version | 06:07 |
| flaper87 | :P | 06:07 |
| * mordred waves hands wildly in the ... | 06:07 | |
| mordred | yes | 06:07 |
| flaper87 | mordred: danke, sir. | 06:08 |
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| clarkb | kashyap: I dont think so | 06:08 |
| clarkb | that field is immutanle once set iirc | 06:08 |
| kashyap | clarkb, Ah, pity. | 06:09 |
| kashyap | clarkb, I realized late that LP just takes the username from email ID | 06:09 |
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| kashyap | Thanks for the response, anyway. On a related note, in sometime, LP will be replaced with StoryBoard? | 06:10 |
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| clarkb | kashyap thats still the plan. but I dont think we have a date nailed down | 06:11 |
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| rick__ | anteaya: I got service account. I cannot use this account in the gerrit. Does it right? | 06:21 |
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| rick__ | does anyone get error base.pp when execute install_master.sh or install_slave.sh. It seems unable to get openstack_project inthe puppet. | 06:23 |
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| ttx | jeblair, reed: I reverted that accept_these_nonmembers change for -tc | 06:32 |
| ttx | jeblair, reed: that basically would make openstack-tc open and a duplicate of -dev, which it's not | 06:33 |
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| jedimike | morning! | 07:51 |
| rcarrillocruz | SergeyLukjanov: hi there, if you have cycles to re-review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109816/ i'd appreciate, thx | 07:51 |
| rcarrillocruz | hi jedimike | 07:51 |
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| LuckyVega | Hi folks, recently I am working on building CI for our ml2 driver. Since our code has not been merged to the master branch, when running the devstack-vm-gate script, the code in neutron project will be updated so our code is missing. Without the code, devstack will fail since it is configured to use our own ml2 driver. Any suggestions to solve this problem? | 07:58 |
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| evgenyf | Hi guys, is this the right channel for openstack/requirements project? | 10:56 |
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| [1]trinaths | Hi, How to install the latest available Juno release on Ubuntu 14.04? I have found this http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_basics.html#basics-packages but was unable to add the cloud-archive | 11:12 |
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| joa | I'm back for new questions about CI o/ | 12:31 |
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| tongli | any soul please help out on this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109109/. | 12:38 |
| tongli | tons of +1 already. | 12:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Update oslo.vmware to version 0.5 https://review.openstack.org/112022 | 13:46 |
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| AJaeger | infra team, could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111865 and also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111794/, please? Both are about specs.o.o | 14:22 |
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| jedimike | we're having a problem with install_modules.sh | 14:27 |
| jedimike | some of the modules require concat, and specify >=1.0.0 | 14:27 |
| sahid | Hi all, there is a way to remove an account from gerrit? (this account doesn't have any comment or review) | 14:27 |
| sahid | ? | 14:27 |
| jedimike | concat 1.1.0 installs stdlib 4.x, which is fine, but further on down install_modules.sh, it tries to explicitly installs stdlib 3.2.0, which it can't do so the script errors | 14:28 |
| jedimike | I have a fix, which is to specifiy concat 1.0.0 and stdlib 3.2.0 at the top of the modules list | 14:28 |
| jedimike | how does that sound? | 14:28 |
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| jedimike | specifically, puppetlabs-haproxy requires concat >= 1.0.0, which now installs 1.1.0 and the 4.x version of stdlib, which makes it fail on the line trying to install stdlib 3.2.0 | 14:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Amit Gandhi proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adds Poppy CDN Project https://review.openstack.org/111095 | 14:34 |
| clarkb | jedimike there is a different change to use stdlib 4.x proposed | 14:34 |
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| clarkb | sahid: no not really | 14:35 |
| clarkb | sahid: if the account hasnt been used does it need to be deleted or can you just leave it as is? | 14:35 |
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| jedimike | clarkb, ok great, how far away is that from landing? This is stopping us preparing nodepool nodes correctly | 14:36 |
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| clarkb | jedimike it has +2s but imo needs testing before I will +2 it | 14:37 |
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| clarkb | also we run install modules as is on our nodepool nodes and it works... | 14:38 |
| clarkb | you must have other changes to the modules list if that is broken. my understanding is that second run of install modules will fail not first | 14:39 |
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| sahid | actually it creates mistake with the auto-completion | 14:39 |
| jedimike | what we're seeing is installing haproxy will install concat 1.1.0. Installing concat 1.1.0 installs stdlib 4. Installing stdlib 4 causes the explicit installation of stdlib 3.2.0 to fail | 14:40 |
| sahid | clarkb, if you try to typing "sahid" you will see two account | 14:40 |
| sahid | s | 14:40 |
| jedimike | I have a fix, which is just to install stdlib and concat at the top of the list of modules. Is that worth landing while we wait on the stdlib 4 work? | 14:40 |
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| clarkb | jedimike probably not as both would need testing. so we should just test the long term fix | 14:41 |
| jedimike | ok, we'll have to have that as a local fix while we wait | 14:41 |
| clarkb | can you test the stdlib 4 change? | 14:42 |
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| clarkb | I guess what I am getting st is if this is important to you maybe you can help :) | 14:43 |
| jedimike | yes, it's important :) can you point me to the review? | 14:43 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add swift specs to specs.o.o https://review.openstack.org/111865 | 14:43 |
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| clarkb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109351/ | 14:45 |
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| clarkb | sahid we can remove the email from the second account to make gerrit completion ignore that account. are both accounts yours? | 14:47 |
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| sahid | yes | 14:49 |
| sahid | clarkb, yes this could be nice | 14:49 |
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| sahid | clarkb, all of those accounts are mine | 14:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Disable cinder with ironic https://review.openstack.org/105599 | 15:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Added non-voting pep8 job for sqlalchemy-migrate https://review.openstack.org/111597 | 15:02 |
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| jeblair | ttx: okay. it's your list. i don't agree that's what the change does -- the change is not going to make anyone _post_ to openstack-tc. | 15:07 |
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| jeblair | ttx: the change just means that when people _do_ post to openstack-tc, who are also on openstack-dev (which they are most likely doing because of a -tc -dev crosspost, you don't have to spend all of your time moderating posts and asking them to stop. | 15:08 |
| jeblair | ttx: in fact, assuming that in such a case you would moderate all of the messages through (which I've seen you do in the past), then I would say you're just doing the manual equivalent of the change. | 15:08 |
| ttx | jeblair: just a sec, on a call right now | 15:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Enable oslo.db testing on python 3.3 https://review.openstack.org/112006 | 15:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Added Designate devstack log files to be indexed by logstash https://review.openstack.org/108001 | 15:34 |
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| phschwartz | Morning infra | 15:42 |
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| joa | hey there, How could I check/debug why the proper tasks do not seem to be run into my CI (jenkins)'s slaves ? Is there any good log file to check that ? | 15:43 |
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| jeblair | phschwartz: good morning | 15:46 |
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| ttx | jeblair: not sure I follow you. The change basically makes -tc an unmoderated list for all openstack-dev subscribers (which means everyone). | 15:48 |
| ttx | I guess the question is... do we get more off-topic posts that we get on-topic posts from non-TC-members | 15:48 |
| ttx | If we say we get more on-topic posts, then I guess we would make -tc unmoderated, rather than than add openstack-dev as allowed poster | 15:49 |
| jeblair | ttx: as the moderator, you'd know best. mostly what i've seen from outside is that whenever someone posts a tc motion to both lists, it ends up being a huge deal with a lot of posts about how crossposting is bad. | 15:49 |
| jeblair | ttx: unmoderated is bad; you get spam. | 15:50 |
| jeblair | actually, we should say, open subscription, not moderation. | 15:50 |
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| ttx | sure, that's what I meant by unmoderated | 15:50 |
| ttx | currently the TC list is a list where only TC members are allowed to post. If we allow anyone from openstack-dev to post, then we should let anyone from openstack-tc to post :) | 15:52 |
| ttx | So we could change the list policy and make it unmoderated for subscribers, but that's a significant policy change, I would ask the TC about it before pushing it | 15:53 |
| mordred | dstufft: if you're aroudn, can you remind me why it is that we're vehemently against putting setuptools in install_requires ? | 15:53 |
| mordred | dstufft: like, I remember that it's bad, but I've lost the why | 15:53 |
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| dstufft | I don't think we are anymore | 15:54 |
| jeblair | ttx: fair enough. i'm not going to push it anymore. | 15:54 |
| cody-somerville | Why does the post pipeline have regex for ref of "^(?!(devnull|refs/.*)).*$"? -- particularly the refs/.* bit | 15:54 |
| dstufft | before pip 1.5.something you could possibly get into a state where pip can't install stuff | 15:54 |
| dstufft | if setuptools got uninstalled and things failed before it reinstalled | 15:55 |
| jeblair | cody-somerville: so that it does not run on tags | 15:55 |
| dstufft | but now pip can install setuptools withouit setuptools bieng present | 15:55 |
| ttx | jeblair: you can crosspost more so that the moderation work is so painful I give up | 15:55 |
| dstufft | so I don't think it matters anymore | 15:55 |
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| jeblair | ttx: i don't understand that last sentence | 15:55 |
| cody-somerville | jeblair: What is the value of ref when it's actually a commit landing? | 15:55 |
| jeblair | ttx: ah i understand it now :) | 15:55 |
| cody-somerville | s/landing/that has landed/ | 15:56 |
| ttx | jeblair: heh | 15:56 |
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| dmellado | but doesn't usually pip requires setuptools? | 15:56 |
| jeblair | cody-somerville: when a branch is updated, bizarrly, gerrit sets the ref to "master" or "stable/havana". only when it's a tag does it set it to "refs/tags/foo". | 15:56 |
| cody-somerville | jeblair: Ok. Thanks for clearing that up for me. | 15:57 |
| jeblair | cody-somerville: the devnull thing is cruft and can be removed | 15:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove devnull from post regex https://review.openstack.org/112057 | 16:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add cross-project unit tests for oslo libraries https://review.openstack.org/85487 | 16:04 |
| mordred | dmellado: it actually does not | 16:04 |
| mordred | dmellado: I mean, it requires setuptools to run - but it does not declare a dependency on it | 16:04 |
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| dmellado | I see, thanks mordred! | 16:05 |
| mordred | the problem with declaring a dependency specifically on setuptools is that by the time you're running the code to trigger the depend, you're already in setuptools - but you can trigger some VERY weird upgrade behavior by mistake | 16:05 |
| mordred | I just can't remember the actual problem | 16:06 |
| mordred | :) | 16:06 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: add channel #openstack-monasca to eavesdrop log server https://review.openstack.org/109109 | 16:06 |
| dmellado | sounds like a terrible dependency hell... xD | 16:06 |
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| dhellmann | jhesketh: have a minute to chat about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96251/5 ? | 16:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Kovacs proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adding project saml-generator https://review.openstack.org/112061 | 16:12 |
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| mordred | dstufft: oh - ok, great! good to know | 16:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Use publish-to-pypi consistently https://review.openstack.org/96799 | 16:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove unused pypi jobs from projects https://review.openstack.org/96251 | 16:16 |
| mordred | dstufft: although, potentially, if you're on an older system with pip <1.5 and possibly old distribute and you pip install something that requires setuptools, your system could get hosed right? | 16:16 |
| dstufft | mordred: yes | 16:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add spec for adding cross-project unit test jobs https://review.openstack.org/95885 | 16:20 |
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| mordred | dstufft: thanks! | 16:21 |
| clarkb | sdague did you see latest d-g grenade sideways patch? | 16:29 |
| clarkb | sdague I think I am happy with it now and it will allow us to do both ironic and neutron sideways upgrades | 16:30 |
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| sdague | clarkb: yeh, I saw it briefly. I'm working through some stuff for my linuxcon presentation today, so will take a look again this afternoon | 16:32 |
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| clarkb | I also have a config change up to move existing jobs to new grenade var stuff. need to push change to add sideways jobs and cleanup backward compat in d-g | 16:34 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: it's the first time we've tried to make grenade go sideways ;) | 16:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Adding new global requirement for pyasn1_modules https://review.openstack.org/111464 | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Adding new global requirement for pyasn1_modules https://review.openstack.org/111464 | 16:48 |
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| jeblair | jhesketh: can you take a look at 111479 | 16:53 |
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| ruhe | infra core could you please help to endmeeting at #openstack-meeting-alt ? | 17:03 |
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| jeblair | ruhe: ack | 17:04 |
| ruhe | jeblair: thanks! | 17:04 |
| jeblair | ruhe: it looks like the meeting just started; what's the problem? | 17:05 |
| ruhe | jeblair: adrian_otto is trying to end the meeting which started an hour ago | 17:06 |
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| jeblair | INFO 2014-08-05T16:17:11 supybot Exiting due to Signal #15. | 17:09 |
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| adrian_otto | hey jeblair | 17:10 |
| jeblair | 16:06 < openstackgerrit> A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: add channel #openstack-monasca to eavesdrop log server https://review.openstack.org/109109 | 17:10 |
| adrian_otto | I manually copied the transcript for that meeting | 17:10 |
| jeblair | someone merged a meetbot change in the middle of a meeting | 17:10 |
| mordred | it was not me | 17:10 |
| jeblair | that restarts the bot | 17:10 |
| adrian_otto | I have to step out for a couple of hours, but I can email the meeting content if we want to manually create a log entry for it | 17:10 |
| jeblair | adrian_otto: it should still be logged, just not in convenient meeting format | 17:11 |
| adrian_otto | oh, good. | 17:11 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so anything further needed from me? I'm being tugged away. | 17:11 |
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| jeblair | adrian_otto: nope, sorry about that | 17:12 |
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| jeblair | SergeyLukjanov: fyi -- changes that update the eavesdrop configuration cause it to restart and lose track of ongoing meetings | 17:12 |
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| adrian_otto | jeblair: np, stuff happens. | 17:12 |
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| jeblair | SergeyLukjanov: sometimes we try to approve those when there aren't any meetings happening | 17:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Windisch proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Nova experimental check on docker dsvm https://review.openstack.org/111808 | 17:14 |
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| jesusaurus | in zuul's layout.yaml, what is the pipeline ref matching for ref-updated? I'm confused by the "devnull" in the post queue | 17:25 |
| jesusaurus | is that usually just refs/heads/master (or whatever branch the change is for)? | 17:26 |
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| clarkb | jesusaurus see scroll back | 17:26 |
| clarkb | cody asked similar questions | 17:26 |
| jesusaurus | oh, heh, thanks | 17:30 |
| clarkb | tldr is gerrit is weird. devnull is old | 17:31 |
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| jesusaurus | was devnull used in the older version of gerrit and disappeared after the upgrade? | 17:31 |
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| jeblair | jesusaurus: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13712/ | 17:35 |
| jeblair | jesusaurus: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112057/ | 17:36 |
| jesusaurus | wow, thats a low-number change | 17:37 |
| cody-somerville | I'm not even sure if that devnull bit works anymore. | 17:37 |
| jeblair | jesusaurus: yeah, and if i'd waited a few hours i could have made it +100000 from the original ;) | 17:37 |
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| cody-somerville | or at least it doesn't seem to work for branch deletion (I think). | 17:38 |
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| jeblair | cody-somerville: all it does is ignore branches called 'devnull'. | 17:39 |
| cody-somerville | ohhh, ok. | 17:39 |
| cody-somerville | I thought maybe it was special keyword. | 17:39 |
| jeblair | nope, we literally had a branch called 'devnull' for a few hours. | 17:39 |
| jesusaurus | thats what i originally thought to, something to ignore the 000000 ref | 17:40 |
| jeblair | jesusaurus: afaik, that's still a wishlist item :) | 17:40 |
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| cody-somerville | jeblair: Hey. How was it realized that you were running into jenkins bottlenecks? What was the smoking gun? | 17:44 |
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| jeblair | cody-somerville: we've run into two kinds: mutexes for global state, and number of slaves attached | 17:46 |
| jeblair | cody-somerville: for the first, we saw jobs sitting around waiting for other jobs to do something before proceeding (which ended up serializing our parallel jobs) | 17:46 |
| jeblair | cody-somerville: we mostly solved that by eliminating plugins that depend on that kind of state mutex (but any new version could add one back at any time) | 17:47 |
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| jeblair | cody-somerville: for the second, it usually manifests as very slow times adding and removing nodes, or sometimes in performing any administrative request | 17:48 |
| cody-somerville | jeblair: Whats the max number of slaves you'd recommend per master? | 17:48 |
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| jeblair | cody-somerville: we try to keep around 100 nodes per master, we start to see problems above that. i think we've seen around 180/master manage, but that's our safety zone. | 17:49 |
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| jeblair | cody-somerville: and these are on very big masters | 17:49 |
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| cody-somerville | jeblair: As in, instance sizes? | 17:50 |
| jeblair | cody-somerville: http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph_view.php?action=tree&tree_id=1&leaf_id=40 | 17:50 |
| jeblair | cody-somerville: yes | 17:50 |
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| jeblair | 8vcpu rackspace standard (so perhaps roughly comparable to new hpcloud instances) | 17:53 |
| clarkb | not quite | 17:55 |
| clarkb | standard rax =~ 2x hpcloud 1.1 | 17:55 |
| jeblair | cody-somerville: we don't need all that ram, but we do need the cpu; jenkins has _many thousands_ of threads running; and if you look at the cpu graph, you'll note the biggest time sink is system time because of all the context switches | 17:55 |
| clarkb | at least for direct cpu comparisons | 17:56 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: what's the performance rax / hpcloud ratio? | 17:57 |
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| clarkb | its like 2/1 iirc a 4vcpu rax node was similar to 8vcpu hpcloud | 17:57 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: erm, then can you state the standard rax / hpcloud ratio in the same format, i seem to be getting confused. :) | 17:59 |
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| clarkb | I have to dig through my old data give me a few | 18:01 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: we still seem to have ETOOMUCHPURPLE, but https://community.hpcloud.com/status/incident/2703 is resolved | 18:08 |
| jeblair | clarkb: any idea what's going on there? do we need to do cleanup or something? | 18:08 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I don't know and yes the issue was resolved. It is possible we need to do cleanup | 18:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Edgar Magana proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Multinode spec for Neutron DVR testing https://review.openstack.org/106495 | 18:08 |
| clarkb | jeblair: Ran 10749 (+1) tests in 801.473s (+8.833s) is rax 8GB 4vcpu node running nova unittests. Ran 10744 tests in 2176.083s (-44.435s) is hpcloud 8GB 4vcpu node running nova unittests | 18:09 |
| clarkb | jeblair: that is not performance node | 18:09 |
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| clarkb | I don't appear to have run my check against a performance node, probably because those numbers are available via jenkins | 18:10 |
| jeblair | clarkb, cody-somerville: so you need a 10vcpu hpcloud node to match the 8vcpu standard rax nodes we run jenkins on :) | 18:10 |
| jeblair | oh, no i misread that, you need a 22 vcpu node? | 18:11 |
| clarkb | ya something like that | 18:11 |
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| clarkb | however the scale isn't linear Ran 10744 tests in 431.773s (-32.514s) is 30GB 8vcpu hpcloud node | 18:12 |
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| jeblair | cody-somerville: so you may want to consider de-rating our observed maximums by some amount. perhaps half. so maybe target max 50 nodes | 18:12 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: it looks like we have about 83 nodes stuck in long-term delete state; half rax and half hpcloud | 18:14 |
| jeblair | and one tripleo | 18:14 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: interesting. are they all from a similar time period? and maybe the don't actually exist provider side? | 18:15 |
| cody-somerville | I'm somewhat glad to hear we're not the only ones seeing nodes get stuck in long-term delete state. | 18:15 |
| clarkb | jeblair: let me know if you want me to poke at it | 18:15 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, it's a chronic problem | 18:15 |
| jeblair | cody-somerville: ^ | 18:15 |
| jeblair | clarkb: 3/4 of the rax ones are from 28.0x hours ago | 18:16 |
| jeblair | many of the hpcloud ones are from 168 hours ago | 18:16 |
| clarkb | 168 hours ago would be the jenkins05 network blip? | 18:16 |
| jeblair | clarkb: if they don't exist provider side, then nodepool should go ahead and delete them | 18:17 |
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| jeblair | | OS-EXT-STS:task_state | deleting | | 18:18 |
| jeblair | | OS-EXT-STS:vm_state | error | | 18:18 |
| jeblair | that's a spot check from rax | 18:18 |
| jeblair | | fault | {"message": "Connection to neutron failed: Maximum attempts reached", "code": 500, "created": "2014-08-04T14:12:29Z"} | | 18:18 |
| jeblair | oh neat, never seen that before | 18:18 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: is that message from rax too? | 18:19 |
| clarkb | I guess that menas they are neutroning now? thats cool | 18:19 |
| jeblair | yep, from 'nova show' | 18:19 |
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| jeblair | | fault | {"message": "'ConnectionFailed' object has no attribute 'status_code'", "code": 500, "created": "2014-08-04T14:13:40Z"} | | 18:20 |
| jeblair | that looks downright buggy | 18:20 |
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| jeblair | phschwartz: we have 41 instances in error state, most in dfw from 28 hours ago, but a few in iad,ord from various times (mostly preceding 28 hours ago) with a mixture of those two fault messages | 18:23 |
| sdague | jeblair: I vaguely remember that bug in the gate | 18:23 |
| jeblair | sdague: that's unpossible! gate bugs only exist in the gate! | 18:24 |
| clarkb | jeblair: :) | 18:25 |
| jeblair | sdague: perhaps that's even true; perhaps it takes nodepool running the gate to cause the bug to surface ;) | 18:25 |
| fungi | jeblair: clarkb: i've been coordinating with phschwartz to get ops to delete those periodically. he also apparently has a script which will automate that until their next openstack update which includes the nova patch addressing this bug | 18:25 |
| clarkb | jeblair: any opposition to me kicking off image builds for the remaining images that we need before I can rebase fungi's change and remove github org from our jobs? | 18:25 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ we are very close to being able to merge that change. maybe you want to rebase it? | 18:26 |
| jeblair | clarkb: none at all; you're fighting for nodes right now though | 18:26 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ya | 18:26 |
| fungi | clarkb: yes, i want rto rebase it. i'll see if i can squeeze it in before meting time | 18:26 |
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| jeblair | bug 1211915 | 18:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1211915 in neutron/havana "Connection to neutron failed: Maximum attempts reached" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1211915 | 18:27 |
| jeblair | found that via e-r | 18:27 |
| jeblair | not found the status_code one | 18:27 |
| sdague | jeblair: yeh, so I think this is basically the neutron deadlock issue | 18:27 |
| fungi | the rax nodes stuck in error+deleting have gotten worse in the past couple weeks... but they've been going in and clearing them for us periodicaly. the hpcloud ones are building up over longer spans of time | 18:28 |
| sdague | jeblair: yeh, the status_code ones that I can find are just tempest teardown (though in parts using official clients) | 18:28 |
| sdague | I think it's basically the same issue | 18:28 |
| jeblair | the only reference i google to that is fungi talking about this issue here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2014-06-12.log | 18:28 |
| clarkb | I just want ot point out how cool this ^ is | 18:28 |
| clarkb | e-r just leveled up | 18:29 |
| sdague | clarkb: :) | 18:29 |
| jeblair | very cool indeed | 18:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Johnson proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: add horizon irc room to eavesdrop bot config https://review.openstack.org/112106 | 18:30 |
| sdague | looking at the nova code I think the issue is highly likely to be the same issue. status_code is only used in neutron client code | 18:30 |
| sdague | from nova | 18:30 |
| sdague | so my guess is the connect fail failed ever so slightly differently, and exposed a half constructed neutron response that doesn't have status_code | 18:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Elizabeth K. Joseph proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Updates to README.rst https://review.openstack.org/107427 | 18:31 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Update oslo.vmware to version 0.5 https://review.openstack.org/112022 | 18:31 |
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| fungi | sdague: if you're talking about the nodes stuck in error+deleting, i believe jogo wrote a nova patch which addreses it on master and rax has staged a port of that patch to their environment but not applied it yet | 18:34 |
| jeblair | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99796/5 this patch? | 18:34 |
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| jeblair | he referred to it in that irc log; it's not immediately clear to me how it fixes an attributerror, though it still may correct the problem by letting us retry | 18:35 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: I just approved a change to the specs.o.o index that will probably require you to rebase your tripleo-specs on specs.o.o change. sorry | 18:35 |
| sdague | fungi: well those errors above are just normal neutron scaling issues that we've seen all the time in the gate | 18:35 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: \O/ | 18:35 |
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| jeblair | so on the hpcloud side... | 18:37 |
| jeblair | | OS-EXT-STS:task_state | deleting | | 18:37 |
| jeblair | | OS-EXT-STS:vm_state | error | | 18:37 |
| jeblair | | fault | {"message": "Unknown auth strategy", "code": 500, "created": "2014-08-01T22:37:51Z"} | | 18:37 |
| jeblair | | | \"message\" : \"Internal server error\", | | 18:38 |
| jeblair | | fault | {"message": "Connection to neutron failed: Maximum attempts reached", "code": 500, "created": "2014-08-04T23:15:06Z"} | | 18:39 |
| jeblair | ha ^ :) | 18:39 |
| jeblair | two clouds :) | 18:39 |
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| jeblair | sdague, clarkb: ^ | 18:39 |
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| clarkb | nice | 18:40 |
| sdague | jeblair: is it easy to compute the incidence rate of that per 1000 nodepool ops? | 18:40 |
| jeblair | sdague: no -- i'm manually running 'nova show' on lists of uuids | 18:40 |
| sdague | jeblair: ok | 18:40 |
| jeblair | sdague: however, we could probably patch nodepool to log the 'fault' field | 18:40 |
| jeblair | sdague: (for "next time") | 18:41 |
| sdague | well as a random thought exercise, that might be really interesting to callibrate gate vs. real cloud on an error like that | 18:41 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Cleanup specs.o.o, add infra-specs https://review.openstack.org/111794 | 18:41 |
| jeblair | yeah | 18:41 |
| clarkb | jeblair: sdague: would it be worth writing up a ml thread along the lines of "Gate failures in the real world. Fixing these things is important see" | 18:41 |
| sdague | yeh, logging faults seems like a good call | 18:41 |
| clarkb | ++ | 18:41 |
| sdague | clarkb: if you like, I feel like I yell at people about this too much :) | 18:42 |
| sdague | ok, farm time. biab | 18:42 |
| jeblair | clarkb, sdague, fungi: i think it would be useful to communicate this, yeah. | 18:43 |
| clarkb | ok I can whip up a draft after meeting/lunch | 18:43 |
| clarkb | russellb: commented on new ceph job. one last thing that should make jenkins happy | 18:43 |
| clarkb | russellb: sorry I missed that the first time through | 18:43 |
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| russellb | clarkb: d'oh! thanks :) | 18:44 |
| russellb | that was annoying me | 18:44 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add heat, cinder and glance to specs.o.org https://review.openstack.org/111946 | 18:44 |
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| russellb | (not finding the problem) | 18:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add experimental ceph job https://review.openstack.org/111812 | 18:45 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, sdague: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-neutronclient/+bug/1297309 | 18:46 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1297309 in python-neutronclient "Unauthorized: Unknown auth strategy" [Medium,Fix committed] | 18:46 |
| jeblair | it showed up in logstash (as recorded in the bug), but i don't think a query was written | 18:46 |
| clarkb | jeblair: do we just need to update neutronclient on nodepool.o.o then? | 18:46 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: that bug is marked fix released | 18:46 |
| jeblair | clarkb: no, that's coming from nova | 18:46 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: that's the 'fault' field on nova show | 18:47 |
| clarkb | oh hrm | 18:47 |
| clarkb | so we need a new client and hp to roll out newer nova? | 18:47 |
| jeblair | i don't think we need a new client | 18:48 |
| arosen | I got a quick question so if i ssh to one of my nodepool nodes running a tempest job i see it's running these commands: git-remote-http http://10.37.2.93/p//openstack/python-swiftclient http://10.37.2.93/p//openstack/python-swiftclient any idea where it's getting the ip 10.37.2.93 configured from? | 18:48 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i think hpcloud's nova needs a new client. but i think this is a second case of 'bug seen in the gate also seen in wild'. | 18:48 |
| arosen | that ip is the address of eth0 on my box but it's not the right ip it should be using. | 18:48 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: oh I see. and yes agreed | 18:49 |
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| clarkb | arosen: that is for the gerrit url in zuul? | 18:49 |
| clarkb | arosen: I think that is where it comes from | 18:49 |
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| clarkb | er wait, you are talking to our zuul right? then that must be from the zuul merger? | 18:50 |
| clarkb | arosen: in your jenkins job you can look at the parameter list and should see that ip/url | 18:50 |
| clarkb | arosen: probably easiest to work backward from there | 18:50 |
| arosen | clarkb: ah sorry my grep didn't find it i see thanks! | 18:50 |
| arosen | its in zuul.conf | 18:50 |
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| * fungi is not bothering to correct his typos... too much packet loss | 18:52 | |
| fungi | i think the patch in question doesn't solve the errors, rather just makes it possible to delete nodes even when they're in an error state (which nova was not previously alowing) | 18:52 |
| jeblair | tteggel_: ^ we have 41 instances stuck in the error state after a delete request (apparently due to bugs that have been recently fixed in nova; yay!). do you have a process for deleting those? | 18:52 |
| * fungi grumbles about 3+minute lag | 18:52 | |
| fungi | more like 20-minute lag that last time | 18:53 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeah, i think you're right. still a big win for us. i just wonder who's going to go find and fix the status code error. :/ | 18:53 |
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| clarkb | russellb: that should do it +2 but still waiting on jenkins | 18:55 |
| russellb | clarkb: thanks! | 18:55 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: that seems to be the bulk of deleting issues at the moment. | 18:57 |
| phschwartz | jeblair: fungi: looking. The script is not 100% yet by the way. Issues with cells. | 18:57 |
| fungi | jeblair: sdague: clarkb: agreed, the fact that we see this at random under tempest in devstack and also in the real world on our providers is a major impact statement about the efficacy of focusing on tracking down and fixing so-called "gate failures" | 18:58 |
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| clarkb | fungi: right it takes those statements from theory and puts them into the real world | 18:59 |
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| fungi | phschwartz: cool... any guesses as to why it's gotten so much worse in recent weeks? | 18:59 |
| fungi | phschwartz: mostly curious whether that increase in incidence correlates to some other changes which could help devs track down the underlying cause | 19:00 |
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| fungi | because, as pointed out, just being able to delete them, while helpful, doesn't tell us much about what caused the communication errors which led them to end up in an error state to begin with | 19:01 |
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| fungi | oh, meeting time | 19:01 |
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| phschwartz | fungi: not sure yet, they are trying to figure out the issue | 19:01 |
| fungi | phschwartz: yep. if they figure anything out, communicating that to the rest of the dev community (because we also see it under devstack during the normal course of testing openstack changes) would be a huge help | 19:02 |
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| arosen | clarkb: so if i'm running my own 3rd party CI should I have have zuul_url set to git.openstack.org or me? | 19:06 |
| clarkb | zuul_url should be you. zuul will construct the refs you need | 19:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | JC Delay proposed a change to openstack-infra/git-review: get_remote_url(): honor any "url.<base>.insteadOf" config setting https://review.openstack.org/109851 | 19:09 |
| arosen | clarkb: right now i'm seeing this error on my jenkins node running the tempest jobs: http://paste.openstack.org/show/90650/ | 19:10 |
| clarkb | arosen: currnetly in a meeting but look in /var/run/zuul/git on the zuul merger box iirc | 19:11 |
| clarkb | arosen: and double check that your git repos have the right permissions and look like repos | 19:11 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: Merger: support for pruning remotes https://review.openstack.org/92141 | 19:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: Merger: support for finding branches in remote https://review.openstack.org/92161 | 19:13 |
| arosen | clarkb: /var/lib/zuul/git is owned by zuul | 19:13 |
| clarkb | arosen: can apache read the repos? | 19:13 |
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| clarkb | or whatever web server is servingthem | 19:13 |
| fungi | arosen: is 10.34.239.231 your zuul and does openstack-dev/devstack exist within the path apache has aliased at /p? | 19:14 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: Add accessor for Repo._initialized https://review.openstack.org/97487 | 19:14 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: cloner to easily clone dependent repositories https://review.openstack.org/70373 | 19:14 |
| arosen | fungi: maybe this tis the issue: http://paste.openstack.org/show/90659/ | 19:14 |
| arosen | 10.0.0.46 -> 10.34.239.231 (is the floatingip) | 19:15 |
| fungi | and as clarkb points out, you need to adjust your apache config to serve git repos... i believe there are examples in the zuul docs, but if not they're definitely in our puppet manifests | 19:15 |
| fungi | arosen: oh, perhaps if your slaves can't connect to that ip address directly, could explain it | 19:15 |
| arosen | fungi: the salves are trying to connect to the floatingip | 19:16 |
| fungi | arosen: i expect that to work, but maybe you have nat triangulation/symmetry issues in your network | 19:17 |
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| arosen | fungi: in the access log is see: 10.34.237.111 - - [05/Aug/2014:12:18:00 -0700] "GET /p//openstack-infra/devstack-gate/info/refs?service=git-upload-pack HTTP/1.1" 404 225 "-" "git/1.7.9.5" | 19:18 |
| arosen | so i don't have the paths right or something. | 19:18 |
| clarkb | oh is /p// <- the double / causing problems maybe? | 19:18 |
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| arosen | clarkb: if i do: http://10.34.239.231/p i get a 404 | 19:19 |
| fungi | arosen: did you follow the recommendations for configuration at http://ci.openstack.org/zuul/merger.html#serving-zuul-git-repos ? | 19:19 |
| arosen | fungi: yup looks like i have all of that in apache already http://paste.openstack.org/show/90660/ | 19:22 |
| phschwartz | jeblair: fungi: They are cleaned | 19:22 |
| clarkb | phschwartz: woot thank you! | 19:22 |
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| fungi | phschwartz: thanks again! | 19:23 |
| clarkb | nodepool should be able to clean up those nodes in its db now | 19:23 |
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| arosen | Do you guys have an example of your apache config for this up anywhere ? | 19:23 |
| fungi | yeah, in the past it's culled them on its next pass, usually within 10 minutes | 19:23 |
| fungi | arosen: we have our actual apache config up somewhere. link on the way | 19:23 |
| arosen | thanks again for all your help here guys : ) | 19:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/nodepool: Record provider AZ info in graphite. https://review.openstack.org/97356 | 19:26 |
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| fungi | arosen: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/zuul/templates/zuul.vhost.erb | 19:27 |
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| fungi | arosen: if you used our puppet module for zuul, presumably it got configured for you | 19:27 |
| arosen | fungi: i'm curious the output of: ls /var/lib/zuul/www ; i have: http://paste.openstack.org/show/90666/ | 19:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed a change to openstack-infra/release-tools: Check for tardiff and add site to README. https://review.openstack.org/109572 | 19:29 |
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| fungi | arosen: same... those are files used for the built-in status webui not for git repos | 19:29 |
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| fungi | arosen: those will likely be in /var/lib/zuul/git | 19:30 |
| arosen | fungi: if you point your browser to: http://<zuul_url>/p do you see anything or 404? | 19:30 |
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| fungi | arosen: http://zm01.openstack.org/p | 19:32 |
| fungi | (404( | 19:32 |
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| arosen | fungi: okay I think my issue is in /var/lib/zuul/git: i only have openstack-dev/sandbox . What populates this directory? | 19:36 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: Add in check for successful swift setup https://review.openstack.org/93727 | 19:36 |
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| clarkb | arosen: the zuul merger process should populate it iirc | 19:36 |
| clarkb | arosen: it will clone and update and care for the repos there. and if they don't exist it should reclone them | 19:36 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Allow ceph backend for nova/cinder/glance https://review.openstack.org/100905 | 19:37 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: Simplified the scheduler very slightly https://review.openstack.org/97869 | 19:38 |
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| arosen | in my zuul/zuul.log it's saying: WARNING zuul.Scheduler: Project openstack/cinder not found etc for each project | 19:43 |
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| clarkb | arosen: oooh ok, I think that means it can't talk to gerrit | 19:44 |
| clarkb | arosen: or clone from gerrit? | 19:44 |
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| arosen | clarkb: in /etc/zuul/zuul.conf should: server=review.openstack.org it seems like it's missing the port number? | 19:47 |
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| arosen | my /etc/zuul/zuul.conf http://paste.openstack.org/show/90676/ | 19:48 |
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| arosen | ssh -i /var/lib/zuul/ssh/id_rsa arosen@review.openstack.org -p 29418 ; works | 19:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Adding Search endpoints and sqlalchemy impl https://review.openstack.org/101476 | 19:50 |
| Shrews | clarkb: if we wanted to revert https://review.openstack.org/105599, what's the procedure for that? | 19:51 |
| clarkb | Shrews: just propose a revert commit with a comment on why | 19:51 |
| Shrews | clarkb: ok | 19:51 |
| arosen | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/zuul/templates/zuul.conf.erb#n9 , where whould i looke to see where: <%= gerrit_server %> is defined? | 19:52 |
| fungi | arosen: if you git grep 29418 in the zuul source you'll see it hardcodes that port number as a default | 19:52 |
| clarkb | arosen: its probably passed in from infra/config/manifests/site.pp | 19:52 |
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| wilfredo | I am installing a Third Part CI system and after submitting a review, I am getting the error "This change was unable to be automatically merged with the current state of the repository. Please rebase your change and upload a new patchset." Can someone help? | 19:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Updated storyboard build to use new test modules https://review.openstack.org/106193 | 19:58 |
| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Revert "Disable cinder with ironic" https://review.openstack.org/112122 | 19:58 |
| Shrews | clarkb: ^^^ i broke our gating, so we need that reverted for now :( | 19:58 |
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| nibalizer | jeblair: so yea, there is a small (if any) delta between my proposed storyboard module and the storyboard module in infra/config | 20:01 |
| nibalizer | and krotchecks patch is a significant refactor of the same | 20:02 |
| nibalizer | we could land his and i could split out again | 20:02 |
| nibalizer | its not hard to split out | 20:02 |
| jeblair | nibalizer: yeah, but since it already exists, the preferred method would be to propose a duplicate of his patch to the module | 20:02 |
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| rcarrillocruz | guys, how do you trigger 'throw away' CI builds in infra? | 20:03 |
| rcarrillocruz | a jenkins plugin for example | 20:03 |
| rcarrillocruz | as it's not a 'source' thing that when gets changed the CI triggers the build and deployment | 20:03 |
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| rcarrillocruz | how do you trigger it? | 20:03 |
| nibalizer | jeblair: none of my patches to the external module have landed | 20:03 |
| rcarrillocruz | you upload the package to tarballs afaict, but not clear to me how the build is triggered (so jenkinsci-upload.sh script is run etc) | 20:04 |
| fungi | rcarrillocruz: you mean like when we make new releases? our zuul is configured with pre-release and release pipelines which match on tag references | 20:05 |
| rcarrillocruz | oh | 20:05 |
| rcarrillocruz | so instead of pushing a change, you push a ta | 20:05 |
| rcarrillocruz | g | 20:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Updated storyboard build to use new test modules https://review.openstack.org/106193 | 20:05 |
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| rcarrillocruz | and that triggers all the magic? | 20:05 |
| fungi | rcarrillocruz: so someone pushes a git tag to gerrit and zuul runs the jobs | 20:05 |
| rcarrillocruz | and if there's no 'release' per se | 20:06 |
| rcarrillocruz | just an emergency upload or something | 20:06 |
| arosen | I wonder if the repo's missing in /var/lib/zuul/git is at all related to /etc/zuul/layout.yaml as i only have projects: name openstack-dev/sandbox in there? | 20:06 |
| fungi | arosen: yes, entirely | 20:06 |
| rcarrillocruz | fungi: do a 'git show 782501b22806ef0c9510d71ad53dc51c73f8e426' on openstack-infra/config please, i mean point 1 from the commit message | 20:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Updated storyboard build to use new test modules https://review.openstack.org/106193 | 20:07 |
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| fungi | rcarrillocruz: those could run out of the post pipeline instead (where our zuul is configured to run jobs on every commit once it merges) | 20:08 |
| fungi | rcarrillocruz: for example that's how we generate and upload branch tarballs to tarballs.openstack.org | 20:08 |
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| arosen | http://paste.openstack.org/show/90689/ this is what my zuul/layout.yaml I guess i should copy all the names from config/modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml | 20:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Updated vinz build to use new test modules https://review.openstack.org/112128 | 20:10 |
| fungi | arosen: for whichever projects you're going to be testing changes on, yes | 20:10 |
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| rcarrillocruz | cool, thx fungi, i will look into that | 20:11 |
| arosen | fungi: so if i'm going to be running dsvm-tempest-full i need to grab several of them? Does it make sense if I just copy https://github.com/openstack-infra/config/blob/master/modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml#L756 down ? | 20:11 |
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| fungi | arosen: depending on what you're testing, whatever sets up your test environment should be getting other repositories it needs from somewhere besides your zuul merger though, since it will only serve projects for the changes you're testing | 20:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Cleanup javascript build https://review.openstack.org/111407 | 20:13 |
| fungi | arosen: so for example, we use something called devstack-gate to set up devstack for integration tests. it pulls from git.openstack.org for projects it needs if refs for them are not found on the zuuuul merger | 20:13 |
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| fungi | zuuuuuuuuul merger | 20:13 |
| fungi | yay lag | 20:13 |
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| arosen | fungi: right that's just what I was going to paste: http://paste.openstack.org/show/90691/ | 20:14 |
| stevemar | AJaeger, ping | 20:14 |
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| arosen | fungi: right now it's trying to pull from zuul-merger instead of git.openstack.org i guess? | 20:14 |
| stevemar | AJaeger, nevermind, had to clear my cache! | 20:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | JC Delay proposed a change to openstack-infra/git-review: get_remote_url(): honor any "url.<base>.insteadOf" config setting https://review.openstack.org/109851 | 20:15 |
| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Revert "Disable cinder with ironic" https://review.openstack.org/112122 | 20:16 |
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| fungi | arosen: so if you're going to test changes on sandbox and neutron, your zuu config should only contain those. if you use devstack-gate, it will try to pull, e.g., nova refs from your zuul merger, decide they aren't there (via a fairly ugly git error message) and then pull from git.openstack.org (the GIT_BASE envvar) | 20:17 |
| rcarrillocruz | fungi: i'm not familiar with that concept. when you push a tag, that itself triggers a release, does that go thru review (the push tag itself) ? | 20:18 |
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| fungi | rcarrillocruz: we would like for it to, but right now gerrit is lacking features in that area | 20:19 |
| rcarrillocruz | thing is | 20:19 |
| rcarrillocruz | we have here a local nexus repository | 20:19 |
| rcarrillocruz | and people will need to upload artifacts to Nexus repos from time to time (missing libs, etc) | 20:19 |
| rcarrillocruz | and i'm trying to figure out a way that goes thru review, and leverages openstack infra CI (static privileged slave, etc) | 20:20 |
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| fungi | rcarrillocruz: instead a release manager (as defined by a gerrit acl setting permission for tag pushing) decides which ref to tag with what (pre)release version number and pushes that | 20:21 |
| fungi | i apologize. the minutes of packet loss here aren't conducive to holding an engaged conversation | 20:21 |
| arosen | fungi: ah i see so this 404 error message is probably okay. I think i found why it might be failing: http://paste.openstack.org/show/90692/ line 57 says it's complaining about "ImportError: No module named yaml" | 20:21 |
| fungi | arosen: you need pyyaml installed. i think we determined that there was a missing dependency in the zuul puppet module and i uploaded a patch to the manifest to fix it--not sure whether that's been approved yet | 20:22 |
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| fungi | arosen: specifically the puppet module tries to pip install zuul from source and when it gets to python-keystoneclient (for the swift artifact support) it fails to find the dev headers it needs to compile bindings in lxml, so the installation never completes and thus some modules are missing | 20:23 |
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| fungi | arosen: ahh, it was https://review.openstack.org/110807 (merged just before the weekend) | 20:25 |
| arosen | fungi: yup just found it. I cd /root/config ; git pull origin master and pulled it in. Now to figure out how to get it installed on my system to it uses that code | 20:26 |
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| marun | clarkb, jeblair: I'm afraid I've found another potentially problematic sudo issue - removal of the stack user's permissions prevents unstack from working correctly. Can you see a way around this without changing the devstack wrapper to configurably unstack? | 20:32 |
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| arosen | fungi: how to you generally install the files out of the config repo? I pulled in the latest changes but I'm still getting the same error. | 20:34 |
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| fungi | arosen: you need to puppet apply it | 20:34 |
| arosen | fungi: I'm guessing this puppet change doesn't require me to rebuild a new nodepool image? | 20:34 |
| fungi | arosen: right, we're talking about changes tro zuul, not to nodepool workers | 20:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Kovacs proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adding project saml-generator https://review.openstack.org/110378 | 20:35 |
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| arosen | fungi: sudo puppet apply --verbose --modulepath=os-ext-testing/puppet/modules:/root/config/modules:/etc/puppet/modules ; Could not parse configuration file: Certificate names must be lower case; see #1168 :( | 20:40 |
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| clarkb | marun: can you run your stuff in the gate hook prior to sudo changes? | 20:42 |
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| fungi | arosen: since i'm not sure what jaypipes intends for updating puppet manifests in his istructions, i'm afraid i won't be much helpwith that error | 20:47 |
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| jaypipes | fungi: for the most part, the os-ext-testing thing just uses the updates modules... but arosen, if you file an issue on the os-ext-testing repo, I will look into that specifically. | 20:49 |
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| fungi | jaypipes: specifically, how are you reapplying updated puppet config on an already-deployed system? | 20:50 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think we are ready to merge the github org removal change | 20:50 |
| clarkb | fungi: were you still going to rebase that? I acn do it if it helps | 20:50 |
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| fungi | clarkb: yeah, sidetracked by meetings and helping answer questions. i'll do it now | 20:51 |
| clarkb | fungi: awesome | 20:51 |
| jaypipes | fungi: oh, sorry... I misunderstood. | 20:51 |
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| jaypipes | arosen: if you are trying to pull in any upstream changes, you would do: cd ~/config; git pull; cd ../; install_master.sh | 20:52 |
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| marun | clarkb: maybe? Do you have an example of how to do that? | 20:56 |
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| boris-42 | mordred hi there | 21:00 |
| boris-42 | mordred what do you think about making POC of running tempest via Rally in gates? | 21:00 |
| boris-42 | mordred does that makes sense? | 21:01 |
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| fungi | clarkb: oh, fudge. the specs publishing jobs reintroduce use of github-org and need to be refactored to figure that out from the git repo | 21:05 |
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| clarkb | fungi: oh no | 21:05 |
| clarkb | :( ok | 21:05 |
| fungi | camunoz: probably in ways similar to how it was done for the docs publishing jobs | 21:05 |
| clarkb | fungi: sdague jeblair https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/gate-bugs-in-real-cloud from earlier | 21:05 |
| clarkb | marun: let me find one | 21:05 |
| fungi | camunoz: sorry, that was supposed to be clarkb | 21:05 |
| clarkb | fungi: should I whip that up or are you already working on it? | 21:07 |
| fungi | clarkb: i think i'm probably going to have to work on it after dinner, once family visiting winds down. it's going to be more involved than a simple rebase since we're going to need at least one more slave script updated on the nodepool images to stop using it | 21:07 |
| clarkb | fungi: ok no rush | 21:07 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | jeblair, yup, I know (re eavesdrop restart), looks like it was my tz calculation failure :( | 21:10 |
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| jeblair | SergeyLukjanov: hehe, whoops | 21:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add git-upstream as new project to stackforge https://review.openstack.org/109292 | 21:11 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | jeblair, mordred, re project renaming - I'll be unavailable this saturday, but should be available next weekend (16-17) and I like to try renaming process | 21:13 |
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| jeblair | SergeyLukjanov: cool! | 21:14 |
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| clarkb | sdague: jeblair SergeyLukjanov https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/gate-bugs-in-real-cloud and whoever else wants to edit | 21:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | jeblair, okay, /me making a note for the 16-17 weekend | 21:15 |
| sdague | clarkb: works for me | 21:15 |
| gpilz | hello - I'm having trouble with review.openstack.org | 21:16 |
| sdague | so you know the funny thing | 21:16 |
| sdague | bug #2, the status_code one | 21:16 |
| gpilz | it won't let me update my contact information | 21:16 |
| sdague | is actually the teardown path in tempest | 21:16 |
| gpilz | and, without contact information, I can't submit a change for review | 21:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | clarkb, +1 | 21:16 |
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| sdague | which we weren't failing on because we didn't want to fail in teardown | 21:16 |
| clarkb | sdague: fun | 21:16 |
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| clarkb | gpilz: you need to make sure that your primary email address in gerrit matches your primary email address in your foundation profile | 21:17 |
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| clarkb | gpilz: you can check your foundation profile at https://www.openstack.org/profile/ and your gerrit email address at https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/ | 21:18 |
| clarkb | gpilz: can you double check that the email addresses match? | 21:18 |
| gpilz | I can't login to www.openstack.org | 21:18 |
| clarkb | gpilz: do you have a foundation profile? if not you will need to create one | 21:18 |
| gpilz | I work for Oracle | 21:18 |
| gpilz | they are a corporate sponsot | 21:18 |
| gpilz | sponsor | 21:18 |
| gpilz | i use "gilbert.pilz@oracle.com" for all email records | 21:19 |
| clarkb | gpilz: sure, but individuals need to sign up with the foundation in order to update contact details. you can see the whole how to contribute process at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute#If_you.27re_a_developer | 21:19 |
| clarkb | reed: ^ | 21:19 |
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| gpilz | I've got a Launchpad account | 21:20 |
| gpilz | I've agreed to the ICLA | 21:20 |
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| fungi | gpilz: what instructions were you following? i want to make sure we get rid of any which aren't our official instructions (the ones clarkb just linked to) | 21:22 |
| fungi | gpilz: since we get quite a few people ending up here who try to do things out of sequence and haven't set up a foundation membership account yet | 21:23 |
| fungi | gpilz: so i assume there must be some incorrect/incomplete instructions floating around out there | 21:23 |
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| gpilz | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute#If_you.27re_a_developer | 21:23 |
| gpilz | the instructions read "If you haven't already" | 21:24 |
| reed | gpilz: where are you stuck? | 21:25 |
| gpilz | when you go to https://www.openstack.org/join/ | 21:25 |
| gpilz | you are presented with a list of memberships | 21:25 |
| asselin_ | I'm not getting e-mail from 3rd party ci comments. Is that expected? I thought i was inthe past. e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111410/ | 21:25 |
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| fungi | gpilz: you haven't already | 21:26 |
| asselin_ | for HP Cinder CI | 21:26 |
| gpilz | I know Oracle has joined as a corporate sponsor - so I have to assume that the expression "if you haven't already" evaluates to "false" | 21:26 |
| reed | gpilz: individual: https://www.openstack.org/join/register/ | 21:26 |
| reed | gpilz: i'm fixing that wiki page and make it more explicit | 21:26 |
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| gpilz | Oracle would fire me pretty quickly if I did that | 21:26 |
| fungi | "you" != "your employer" (perhaps we need to be more specific there) | 21:26 |
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| fungi | gpilz: thanks! | 21:26 |
| fungi | er, reed thanks | 21:27 |
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| gpilz | (join as an individual member) | 21:27 |
| * reed sighs | 21:27 | |
| reed | gpilz: thanks and sorry for the trouble | 21:27 |
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| gpilz | not a problem | 21:28 |
| fungi | gpilz: oracle would fire you for becoming an individual member of the openstack foundation? or am i misreading? | 21:28 |
| gpilz | this is the first time i've ever submitted a change for review | 21:28 |
| gpilz | perhaps not - i need to check | 21:29 |
| reed | now the wiki says: "If you're not already an Individual Member of the OpenStack Foundation" | 21:29 |
| reed | and links to individual member registration page | 21:29 |
| reed | gpilz: that's a very good thing to hear | 21:30 |
| fungi | gpilz: the foundation individual membership is mainly a formality allowing you to vote in board elections and, as a (hopefully soon to be) code contributor, also participate in technical elections for the project | 21:30 |
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| gpilz | there are other Oracle people that have contributed - let me see what they've done | 21:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Allow compatibility with Berkshelf 2.x and 3.x https://review.openstack.org/112145 | 21:31 |
| fungi | gpilz: right now it's a prerequisite for submitting changes to our code review system, mainly so we can map up contributors for technical election purposes | 21:32 |
| gpilz | is that why I can't update my contact info on review.openstack.org? | 21:33 |
| gpilz | because the error I'm getting says that's the trouble | 21:33 |
| krtaylor | asselin_, you were, it got "fixed" | 21:33 |
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| asselin_ | krtaylor, ok cool thanks | 21:34 |
| fungi | gpilz: yes | 21:34 |
| asselin_ | krtaylor, sorry...what do you mean by 'fixed"? fixed = no more e-mails? | 21:34 |
| krtaylor | asselin_, yes, it was that way, then some component was upgraded, gerrit I believe, and then email flood, which was then fixed | 21:36 |
| fungi | gpilz: our gerrit won't let you contribute patches to our official projects without first updating contact information, which then on the backend tries to check against your foundation membership to confirm it exists. if the foundation member system's api indicates it was unsuccessful in finding a profile with that primary/preferred e-mail address, then gerrit displays a contact info update error | 21:36 |
| fungi | (it's unfortunately not configurable, and so we can't make it more specific in gerrit) | 21:36 |
| asselin_ | krtaylor, ok thanks for clarifying | 21:36 |
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| * fungi needs to disappear again for a while. back in a couple hours | 21:37 | |
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| gpilz | thanks for the help! | 21:37 |
| jeblair | sdague: you might find this interesting: http://crsmithdev.com/arrow/ | 21:38 |
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| sdague | jeblair: yeh, I just saw that on hackernews | 21:39 |
| sdague | soooooo much nicer than python date stuff | 21:39 |
| mordred | woot | 21:39 |
| hashar | jeblair: thank you for the zuul merges :-] | 21:39 |
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| mrodden | wow can i get arrow included in py27 standard lib thx | 21:49 |
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| mordred | mrodden: it's easy | 21:51 |
| mordred | mrodden: "pip install arrow" | 21:52 |
| mordred | BOOM | 21:52 |
| mrodden | yeah but... i have to like build venv's or install on system then | 21:52 |
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| mordred | mrodden: there's always docker | 21:53 |
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| mrodden | docker seems like way more work.... | 21:53 |
| mrodden | i tend to use venv's for everything python now | 21:54 |
| jeblair | mrodden: i agree; a language's stdlib ought to be able to tell time. :) | 21:55 |
| mrodden | ^ that was more my point yes :) | 21:55 |
| mrodden | just the utc.to() | 21:55 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i like your draft | 21:55 |
| jeblair | hashar: thanks for the code! :) i'm hoping we can really start to use zuul cloner soon | 21:56 |
| hashar | jeblair: i am starting to add some jobs on Wikimedia setup to use it | 21:56 |
| hashar | note that the version merged does not support one of your fallback scenario | 21:56 |
| hashar | I have a follow patch but it is very bad code :-/ | 21:56 |
| dstufft | mrodden: pip install --user arrow | 21:56 |
| mrodden | hmmm --user is a thing? | 21:57 |
| jeblair | hashar: yeah, i figure we can continue to work on it | 21:57 |
| dstufft | mrodden: yes, it'll install it to ~/.local/<stuff> | 21:57 |
| clarkb | jeblair: cool I will send that now | 21:58 |
| hashar | jeblair: there was a need to override the fallback branch on a per project basis | 21:58 |
| ttx | wow, sane time. | 21:58 |
| mrodden | dstufft, cool... | 21:58 |
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| hashar | jeblair: some tests cases will surely help :] | 21:58 |
| sdague | ttx: yeh, seriously | 21:58 |
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| ttx | sdague: it's no fun. Why did we have to learn all this datetime wizardry and now newbies will just use arrow and make fun of us when we say "this time thing is hard" | 21:59 |
| sdague | ttx: it's still hard, now at least it's not impossibly confusing and hard at the same time :) | 22:00 |
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| clarkb | sent mail to list about gate bugs in the real world | 22:03 |
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| mordred | arrow.utcnow().format('YYYY-MM-DD HH:mm:ss ZZ') | 22:05 |
| mordred | that's too much | 22:05 |
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| mordred | there should be a simple "just show me a readable format" function | 22:05 |
| mrodden | mordred: i think there is | 22:05 |
| mrodden | the example right after is arrow.utcnow().format() ? | 22:06 |
| mrodden | i closed the page... but i thought i saw that | 22:06 |
| mordred | >>> arrow.utcnow().format() | 22:06 |
| mordred | Traceback (most recent call last): | 22:06 |
| mordred | File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> | 22:06 |
| mordred | TypeError: format() takes at least 2 arguments (1 given) | 22:06 |
| mordred | but ... it's still REALLY NICE | 22:06 |
| mrodden | oh it was arrow.get() | 22:07 |
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| mordred | nice | 22:07 |
| mordred | yeah | 22:07 |
| hashar | time.readable() | 22:07 |
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| mordred | I mean - literally EVERYTHING ELSE has sane defaults | 22:08 |
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| reed | mordred: including openstack | 22:09 |
| mrodden | oslo.time - replace datetime module with arrow | 22:09 |
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| mrodden | :) | 22:09 |
| sdague | mrodden: I approve | 22:10 |
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| mordred | ++ | 22:10 |
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| sdague | mordred: str(arrow.utcnow()) | 22:12 |
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| jamielennox | can i enable github issues on a stackforge project? (prefer that to moving it to launchpad) | 22:19 |
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| clarkb | jamielennox: yes, I believe jeepyb has a flag if you want to do that | 22:20 |
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| clarkb | has-issues: True? | 22:21 |
| clarkb | mordred: ^ | 22:21 |
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| mattoliverau | morning | 22:22 |
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| jamielennox | clarkb: oh, cool - looks like i can enable pull requests as well? | 22:22 |
| wchrisj | Hello folks - I'm looking for someone in this room who might be able to answer a question about another IRC channel - #openstack-horizon | 22:22 |
| clarkb | jamielennox: I think I would -2 enabling pull requests. the gerrit <-> github interaction won't be what you expect | 22:23 |
| wchrisj | The founder of that channel has not been online in ~ 1.5 yrs... | 22:23 |
| clarkb | jamielennox: gerrit force pushes to github so its a single direction sync | 22:23 |
| clarkb | wchrisj: I think freenode ops can change ownership | 22:24 |
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| clarkb | jamielennox: and zuul won't work with github. So if you want a github development system its best to not use stackforge | 22:24 |
| mordred | clarkb, jamielennox: we don't have any comprehension of github issues | 22:25 |
| clarkb | mordred: what is the has-issues thing in jeepyb then? | 22:25 |
| clarkb | mordred: is that a place holder? | 22:26 |
| mordred | clarkb: it might enable issues - but there will be no owner or anything, so I have no idea what having an issues for a _stackforge_ project would mean | 22:26 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Is this the worst idea ever? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111814/ | 22:26 |
| jeblair | jamielennox: fyi, if the project in question wants to join openstack, you should use neither issues nor pull requests | 22:26 |
| jamielennox | ok, not so worried about pull requests, does this mean though i've got no choice but to use launchpad for issue tracking? | 22:26 |
| clarkb | mordred: oh gotcha | 22:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: so who would close them and so on | 22:27 |
| jamielennox | jeblair: it's a library and it's fairly standalone - so it doesn't really 'want to join openstack', it is a dependency though and i'd like to test library changes against the clients that use it | 22:27 |
| jamielennox | i was looking for a middleground i guess - it might not exist | 22:28 |
| mordred | clarkb: right | 22:28 |
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| mordred | sdague: that's still ugly - this is what I want: https://github.com/crsmithdev/arrow/pull/127 | 22:28 |
| sdague | cool | 22:30 |
| clarkb | annegentle: in 111085 how is copyright different than attribution? | 22:31 |
| clarkb | or rather how is maintaining explicit copyright headers not a way to attribute the licensed thing | 22:31 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: fungi ^ | 22:32 |
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| jeblair | blueprints != specs | 22:35 |
| clarkb | right specs are text and by default copyrighted in this country | 22:36 |
| clarkb | and since we require attribution via the license we should be explicit about it | 22:37 |
| clarkb | at least that is my understanding of how this works | 22:37 |
| clarkb | otherwise attribute is hard | 22:37 |
| jeblair | clarkb: also, a "copyright license" is nothing without copyright :) | 22:37 |
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| clarkb | indeed | 22:38 |
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| mordred | so - companies tried to do this a while back and got yelled at | 22:46 |
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| mordred | most notably my particularly overlord | 22:47 |
| mordred | and the decision from $people was that we were not interested in people putting copyright headers in such things | 22:47 |
| mordred | I am neither agreeing or disagreeing with this - simply repeating my understanding of the past | 22:47 |
| clarkb | mordred: yes well those people were wrong imo | 22:50 |
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| clarkb | mordred: but more importantly the apache license says put those things in a specific file if you want to | 22:50 |
| clarkb | mordred: I don't think CC does | 22:50 |
| jeblair | mordred: "such things" == launchpad blueprints | 22:50 |
| jeblair | mordred: they were trying to copyright ideas | 22:50 |
| clarkb | jeblair: lifeless I have put comments on 95625 | 22:50 |
| jeblair | mordred: now we have specs. those are bodies of text that are undoubtedly covered by copyright | 22:51 |
| clarkb | jeblair: no they want you to stop putting them in apache license headers to | 22:51 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: that is a different issue | 22:51 |
| jeblair | confusing them does not help | 22:51 |
| jeblair | clarkb: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LegalIssuesFAQ#Copyright_Notices_in_Blueprints | 22:51 |
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| mordred | you both missed where I said I was not agreeing or disagreeing with the stance - what I'm getting at is that there is most likely a project-wide understanding that may be incorrect | 22:51 |
| mordred | and I'd like to suggest that I have no idea what the _right_ way to correct that is | 22:52 |
| jeblair | mordred: i do not think the project wide understanding of blueprints is incorrect | 22:52 |
| mordred | that that applies to specs | 22:52 |
| lifeless | clarkb: thanks | 22:52 |
| jeblair | mordred: if that is a project wide understanding, then yes, it is incorrect. however, i don't think anyone has actually thought about it. | 22:52 |
| lifeless | clarkb: huawei were talking 50 hypervisors, how many slaves we'd get from that I'm not sure. | 22:52 |
| lifeless | clarkb: I have another 100 hypervisors coming online soon | 22:53 |
| mordred | jeblair: I would classify "not having thought about it" as an issue - and in general, it seems like one that should be solved systemically | 22:53 |
| jeblair | mordred: we did decide, as a group to use cc-by, which i believe rather settles the question. | 22:53 |
| clarkb | jeblair: right I agree about not copyrighting blueprints | 22:54 |
| jeblair | mordred: i'd be happy for it to be solved systemically. in the mean time, i'm not going to let the infra-specs situation get any worse. | 22:54 |
| clarkb | jeblair: and I confused the apache license copyright headers into this somehow | 22:54 |
| mordred | ok | 22:54 |
| clarkb | jeblair: in that case I am going to approve 111085 | 22:54 |
| clarkb | as I think we are mostly in agreement here? | 22:54 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i think even mordred has said he doesn't disagree :) | 22:55 |
| mordred | _we_ are ... I think it's worthwhile to raise this with the TC or the mailing list so that this same discussion doesn't happen in 100 different specs repos | 22:55 |
| clarkb | lifeless: you need jumphosts too? | 22:55 |
| jeblair | mordred: ++ +legal-discuss | 22:55 |
| clarkb | lifeless: you know hp has two /8s right? | 22:55 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: you know the cloud ip range is deliberately disjoint? | 22:56 |
| clarkb | it makes me sad that I get publicly routable IPs at my desk but the things that actually need public IPs are screwed | 22:56 |
| lifeless | clarkb: its not ever clear to me whether I'll end up with a 15/16 thing, or not. | 22:56 |
| lifeless | clarkb: so I don't plan for it | 22:56 |
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| clarkb | lifeless: that makes me more sad. | 22:57 |
| clarkb | lifeless: maybe I can donate my IP | 22:57 |
| lifeless | clarkb: host bastion.hp1.tripleo.org | 22:57 |
| lifeless | clarkb: for instance | 22:57 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: anyhow, IPv6 will happen, another 5-10 years I think | 22:58 |
| mordred | lifeless: https://tunnelbroker.net/ | 22:58 |
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| lifeless | mordred: indeed, that is an option which I believe I already refer to in the spec | 22:59 |
| mordred | woot | 22:59 |
| * mordred needs to do spec reading | 22:59 | |
| jeblair | lifeless: the only things in all of the openstack project that are not ipv6 enabled are www.openstack.org and hpcloud. | 22:59 |
| lifeless | mordred: we obviously need neutron ipv6 to be ready too | 22:59 |
| mrodden | did we have a bug where 12.04 LTS had a bad dnsmasq version...? | 22:59 |
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| jeblair | ipv6 is here, and things that don't support it are behind the times | 22:59 |
| mordred | yup | 22:59 |
| lifeless | jeblair: and the redhat tripleo region where we tried and couldn't get it | 23:00 |
| lifeless | jeblair: and neutron, though I don't have the exact details on the shortfall atm | 23:00 |
| lifeless | jeblair: and the huawei region they want to bring up where they can't get it - and I don't know if they will be able to punch through to a tunnel broker from behind ye great firewall | 23:01 |
| lifeless | jeblair: ip6 deployment is still under 4% - https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html | 23:02 |
| lifeless | jeblair: and https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-country-ipv6-adoption is interesting too | 23:02 |
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| lifeless | jeblair: but I'm just feeling frustrated right now since I don't think our focus should be on pushing a big industry wide adoption issue rather than figuring out how to deliver the functional requirements you have | 23:03 |
| clarkb | lifeless: well I don't think that should be the focus either | 23:04 |
| clarkb | lifeless: a more important question is "Is all this work worth it" | 23:04 |
| clarkb | it sounds like it may be, but we were taking that for granted apparently | 23:04 |
| jeblair | lifeless: i'm not pushing it for its own sake. i'm pushing it because it's _actually_ the solution for this _actual_ problem. but i also see that this conversation is likely to be fruitless and am happy to drop the ipv6 stuff. | 23:05 |
| jeblair | lifeless: your proposal fundamentally reverses the design direction that infra has been taking for 2 years. | 23:05 |
| jeblair | lifeless: that is very hard to overcome. | 23:05 |
| lifeless | jeblair: I'm happy if you want to say something like 'hey, ip6 via a tunnel broker would keep the layers and concerns separated' | 23:05 |
| lifeless | jeblair: and tell me and huawei to go cross-check whether thats viable | 23:05 |
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| lifeless | jeblair: for clarity, the design direction is to leverage the end-to-end model of ye internets | 23:06 |
| jeblair | lifeless: probably worth looking into. i expect, based on my personal experience, for the broker to become the least reliable network component; but then, i don't have a lot of connections to cn, so it may not be. | 23:06 |
| lifeless | ? | 23:06 |
| jeblair | lifeless: yes, it's to remove all bottlenecks to horizontal scaling of workers up to zuul+gearman. | 23:07 |
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| lifeless | I am confused then; I thought we'd carefully ensured there wouldn't be a scaling bottleneck in the current version of the spec - yes there is overhead, but not a bottleneck. | 23:08 |
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| lifeless | but - let me talk to jerry | 23:09 |
| lifeless | and sdague | 23:10 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: did you read my answer? i do have plans to remove the ssh health check. | 23:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Jamie Lennox proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add jobs to requests-mock https://review.openstack.org/112168 | 23:14 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: oh I see it now. this threading method has me very confused | 23:14 |
| jeblair | i don't understand why you and lifeless are commenting on the review by leaving line comments in the commit message :) | 23:15 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I don't either | 23:15 |
| clarkb | jeblair: lifeless said it had to do with gertty crashing | 23:15 |
| clarkb | and I did it to keep my responses to lifeless as near the original as possible | 23:16 |
| lifeless | jeblair: gertty lost my reply like 5 times in a row and I got burnt | 23:18 |
| lifeless | jeblair: because it doesn't (AFAICT) stash the comments outside of the diff context for editing and revising | 23:18 |
| openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Send m-p cron output to system logs https://review.openstack.org/112169 | 23:18 |
| lifeless | I haven't had time to shave the yak for that yet | 23:19 |
| jeblair | lifeless: it does not; it may not be ready for use then. | 23:19 |
| lifeless | jeblair: its a work in progress, which is known :) | 23:19 |
| jeblair | lifeless: do you have tracebacks from the crashes? | 23:19 |
| lifeless | jeblair: not anymore sorry | 23:23 |
| lifeless | jeblair: (but equally, accidentally hitting esc also loses review message bodies) | 23:24 |
| lifeless | jeblair: so I'm not thinking of this as a crash-issue, but general UI | 23:24 |
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| jeblair | lifeless: yeah, definitely agree that escape should save | 23:25 |
| lifeless | at least two of those 5 times i reference were me muscle-memory hitting escape (since I live in vim...) | 23:25 |
| jeblair | lifeless: i think an external composer option for the message would be a reasonable enhancement | 23:27 |
| lifeless | jeblair: that could be nice too; I was pondering just putting the dialog for reviews inline on the review, with R a final-check-and-submit thing | 23:28 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add copyright placeholder to template https://review.openstack.org/111085 | 23:28 |
| jeblair | lifeless: i like that. that would work well with the new reviewkeys feature: type in your message then hit meta-2 to vote. | 23:29 |
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| clarkb | is it really almost 0000 | 23:48 |
| clarkb | wow where did the day go | 23:49 |
| clarkb | I am going to aim for the 20th to do tox upgrade and trusty by default | 23:49 |
| * clarkb writes email | 23:49 | |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Upgrade django-pyscss to version 1.0.2 https://review.openstack.org/111744 | 23:56 |
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