Sunday, 2014-01-12

sdaguejeblair: yeh, there were just plenty of other things to do on a Sat :)00:01
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: provide time in queue in zuul ui
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: clean up possible js incompatibilities
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: make merge conflict changes black
sdaguethat's the confirmed fix00:02
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: whitelist netifaces in integration tests
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Allow for sqla 0.8... finally
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sdaguejeblair: did something happen with nodepool? We seem to be shrinking on available nodes00:52
jeblairsdague: where are you seeing that?01:02
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Switch cinder to use bare-precise nodes
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Switch glance to use bare-precise nodes
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Switch keystone to use bare-precise nodes
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Switch heat to use bare-precise nodes
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Switch horizon to use bare-precise nodes
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Switch ceilometer to use bare-precise nodes
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Switch swift to use bare-precise nodes
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sdaguejeblair: on the status page01:18
jeblairsdague: i need more details.  it looks normal to me.  what looks amiss to you?01:24
sdagueI guess the fall off of nodes, but I supose we're actually getting through the queue now01:24
sdagueso it's all good01:25
jeblairsdague: yeah, the top of the green line is i think about where it's supposed to be01:25
sdaguejeblair: I left a comment in the zuul review, I'm not really sure how to get access to the queue with items in it in the tests, so hints at that, would be appreciated01:25
jeblairsdague: a bunch of nodes just got used, so it's replacing them (yellow)01:25
jeblairsdague: note that we currently have 3 node types -- devstack-precise, devstack-precise-check, and bare-precise; so it's normal to have some ready nodes at all times, even when we're at capacity01:26
jeblair(they would be the ready nodes of the wrong type for whatever crunch we have)01:27
lifelessjeblair: (also tripleo-gate :P)01:27
jeblairlifeless: true, there's one of those.  :)01:28
jeblairsdague: ack, i'll take a look at the zuul change in a few minutes after i translate my physical coordinates01:28
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add match for bad neutron dictionary compare
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add match for bad neutron dictionary compare
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: added ER query for swift not starting in grenade
fungigate now @17 ans droppig another 6-8 in the next 15 minutes sans additional errors. i should leave for dinner more often01:54
sdaguethe reset rate is pretty high still01:55
fungiyes, i've been noticing that all day. need more people fixing broken openstacks01:55
StevenKfungi: O hai, can you peer at ?01:56
fungii'm mostly amused that with present tuning, the test nodes graph gains sanity ~queue depth of 3001:56
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jeblairfungi: i'm sure you noticed i merged all the bare-precise changes; i don't think they have taken effect for any running jobs02:01
StevenKfungi: Thanks for the review.02:01
fungijeblair: hmmm... that's been ~50 minutes too02:02
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add a Loading paragraph onto zuul's status page
fungijeblair: they did02:03
fungi"Took 2 min 12 sec on bare-precise-rax-iad-1064881"02:03
fungier, wrong link...
jeblairfungi: oh i wasn't expecting them to kick in until about now02:04
fungithen, yes, seems to be working as intended ;)02:04
jeblairwith propogation delay, etc02:04
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fungigot it02:09
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: added ER query for swift not starting in grenade
fungijeblair: i'm assuming you saw in scrollback, but i ended up quiescing and restarting jenkins02 earlier today. it was exhibiting lots of webui timeouts and proxy errors, and runaway cpu utilization right around 20bg memory utilized. after restarting it's <10gb02:13
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fungithough the load average graph from around the restart is pretty insane...
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fungiarount 17:40 utc, that spike to around 375, i think it's about an order of magnitude lower than what top was reporting02:16
jeblairfungi: i did see the bit about the restart.  the loadavg is news to me.  hrm.02:16
fungihonestly, no guess what was going on there02:17
fungithe asymptotic shape almost seems like a counter inversion of some kind02:17
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fungiwhen i spotted it, top was reporting a 10-minute load average of over 200002:19
anteayafungi: at some point, which means when you feel like it, can you create a gerrit group for 3rd party test accounts that do not have voting enabled?02:19
fungianteaya: that would be... just not adding them to a group02:20
anteayawell I would like so way I could navigate to a url within gerrit that would list them02:20
anteayas/so way/a way so02:21
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fungithe external testing tools group has acl privs to allow verify voting in the -1 to +2 range, but any account can add comments02:21
jeblairanteaya, fungi: i think what would be most useful is a group that has all accounts, and then a group that allows them to vote (a subset of the first)02:22
jeblair(the first being for administrative purposes, the second for actual permissions)02:22
fungier, -1 to +1 range (typo)02:22
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fungii can duplicate the current entries from the external testing tools group into a probationary tools group or something like that, and add the system accounts we added which have been retroactively removed from ett02:24
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fungiexternal testing tools02:24
anteayathanks, fry brain here02:24
fungiit would be double accounting, to some extent, but i'm not too bothered by that02:24
fungianteaya: no worries. my brain is always fried02:25
anteayalet's try that02:25
fungihave we had lots of rogue -1 behavior?02:26
anteayathe word probationary which would have made me cringe 2 weeks ago has a lovely ring to it today02:26
anteayaenough that we need to take action02:26
fungithe last broken one brought to my attention wasn't even voting, just leaving 20+ comments on each review02:26
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anteayaand today I noticed one account posting 5 responses per event02:26
fungisounds remarkably thorough ;)02:27
anteayayup, comment spam is the next issue02:27
jeblairfungi: you want double accounting?  what's wrong with "external testing tools" and "external testing tools that may vote"?02:27
anteayashame that zero of the comments contanined useful information02:27
jeblair(i don't like the idea of a group that _can't_ do something, that seems weird.)02:27
fungiwell, external testing tools that can't vote is a group that can't do something02:28
jeblairfungi: right, which is why i'm suggesting we not have that group.  :)02:28
anteayaI stand corrected, this one actually is offering logs with a clickable link02:28
anteayathe logs look possibly usefuel02:28
anteayauseful too02:28
fungithen i'm misreading your suggestion of "a group that has all accounts, and then a group that allows them to vote"02:29
jeblairfungi: i'm suggesting that we have a group that contains _all_ external testing tools, so that we can identify all of them (there are a lot of accounts, it's nice to know which are external testing tools)02:29
jeblairfungi: that group would have no permissions associated with it.  it would only get new tools added when we create accounts for them02:29
jeblairfungi: the second group is used to give permission to vote.  we can freely move tools in or out of that group as needed without forgetting that the account is an external testing tool.02:30
fungiahh, right. but assuming most of then get to the point where they can vote, that's double-accounting. having the group that allows them to vote be included into the group of accounts, and then moving accounts between one group or the other, would not02:30
jeblairfungi: yes, in an ideal world, both groups would be duplicates.02:31
fungiso when you can't vote, you're in the external testing tools group as a direct member, but when you can vote you're in the testing tools that can vote group, which is included into the external testing tools group02:31
jeblairfungi: i would recommend not doing that02:31
jeblairfungi:  i don't think any tool should ever be removed from the external testing tools group02:31
fungieven if it's just being moved to a group which is included into the other group?02:32
jeblairfungi: because this depends on humans to remember to do that.  we don't actually have a double entry system, so we can't verify that.02:32
jeblairfungi: yes, because there is no move.  there is add and please also remember to delete.02:32
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jeblairfungi: i believe the value of the list of external testing tools is in never forgetting which of the 20k accounts are external testing tools.02:33
fungitrue. there is also, though, the outside chance that an account gets added to the voting group without being added to the larger group then (accident or whatever)02:33
jeblairif we start deleting entries from that group we will forget.02:33
jeblairfungi: i think if we adopt the 'no-voting by default' rule, then there's a nice progression from (a) add to external account tools group and then (b) after trial period, add to voting group02:34
fungibut i agree. given gerrit lacks a "move this account from group a to group b" operation, that's even more error prone02:34
fungiokay, so we create a new "voting external tools" group, or similar, duplicate some subset of the current ett group to it, and change the acl to refer to that02:35
fungianyway, let's approve the "no voting by default" change to the docs and announce it, if we're ready to do so. should we notify each tool contact address individually or just send a note to the -dev ml about it?02:36
fungiand do we know at this point which tools are going to be grandfathered into the new voting group? or is it all of the current ett members?02:37
jeblairfungi: i think it would be okay to approve that (and all those comments should just be additional patches, we don't have to get everything done in one patch)02:38
jeblairfungi: maybe anteaya can help with the question on which tools since she's in the trenches02:39
anteayaright now the only tools I would consider for grandfathering is smokestack, turbo-hipster and the fuel testing system02:40
anteayafuel folks seem to be happy and it is only testing the stackforge repos02:41
anteayadprince is very responsive, I see no reason to change his flow02:41
anteayamikal and harlowja_away are fine if they are quarentined for a bit02:41
anteayaI personally don't have a reason to do so, but I'm fine if we do since they might be a good guinea pig for the approval process02:42
anteayajhesketh my mistake02:43
fungianteaya: remember, there also systems voting exclusively on specific projects, for example the stackforge puppet people have their own ci02:46
anteayagood point02:46
anteayaI haven't looked at their system at all02:46
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anteayaI'm biased regarding how we address the non-voting by default desemination02:47
anteayaif would be easiest for me if we just shut them down and then address stability and process for enbiling voting02:47
anteayabut I am tired and frustrated so not feeling very diplomatic right now02:48
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fungiclarkb had a good suggestion about implementing project-specific acls to limit which project's changes a bot is allowed to vote on, but currently we haven't been asking operators which projects they want to vote on changes for, so we're missing a mapping there02:48
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anteayamy response would be what kind of time estimate would their be to enable that mapping and how much damage and frustration is expected during that window?02:49
fungithere was also a suggestion that the decision on which bots are ready to vote be left up to "the ptl" but then we need a similar mapping to determine which ptl that is02:50
anteayaall good suggestions worthy of consideration02:51
anteayaI guess there is a long term solution and a short term need for action02:51
anteayaI'm thinking short term02:51
anteayaand think a good chat about longer term is in order02:51
fungiwith a broad brush, we have ci voting on impact to nova drivers, cinder drivers, neutron drivers, other specific projects (some stackforge-specific things) and cross-project ci02:52
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anteayaI'm open to a better short term solution02:53
anteayathat won't make the current situation worse and gives us some time to collect opinions and enact a better longer term solution02:54
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fungimostly just worried right now that if infra revokes voting rights, the operators will be petitioning the infra team on their relative merits and readiness to vote02:54
anteayajeblair had a suggestion to expand some gerrit permissions to me and let those operators petition me as well02:55
fungii'm not sure i'm in a suitable position to evaluate their voting readiness (though i'm willing to try, if asked)02:55
anteayabut yes, taking action to stem one tide that creates another is not necessarily what we want here02:56
anteayafungi: fair enough02:56
anteayapersonally I would heed the advice of the ptl of the project in questions, look for logs and a stable url and guage responsiveness of teh operators02:57
anteayawhile being willing to revoke again if I made a mistake or if there is a significant change on behaviour02:57
anteayain behaviour02:57
fungiand if you're evaluating their readiness, are you keeping track of bots voting on just neutron, or also nova? cinder? random stackforge projects? we have no enforcement in place at the moment to keep a nova testing bot from going crazy on neutron (or glance, or keystone) changes either, just the current reactionary removal of access02:58
anteayagood questions02:58
anteayaI'm grouping 3rd party testing systems as an entity regardless of what projects they are listning to02:59
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anteayaI think 3rd party testing system should have a standard and they should meet that standard02:59
fungiin which case there is no "the ptl" to consult on readiness02:59
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anteayain some cases, that may be true, yes02:59
fungiand particularly for cross-project testing bots03:00
anteayathe standard if they restrict themselves to listening to stackforge only might be a different standard in some respects to if they are listening to openstack projects03:00
anteayabut there is a minimum of similarity03:00
funginot trying to be obstinate, just pointing out the current things i think may not be getting taken into account03:00
anteayaand I appreciate it03:01
anteayafor the cross project testing bots, then if the meet the standard (to be determined) they are good to go03:01
anteayafor project specific, the ptl can advocate03:02
anteayafor instance the existance and behaviour of recheck syntax03:02
anteayacross project would adhere to the decision of the group03:02
anteayaproject specific would have a ptl override clause for that03:02
anteayaunless that became a problem then we would discuss and adjust03:03
fungiand i think we definitely need to focus on proof by example for graduation to voting status, if we're going to start with a non-voting class. after all, i think if i'd asked all the operators who ended up being disruptive whether they were ready for voting rights in the beginning, most of them would probably have insisted that they were03:03
anteayaproof my example03:03
anteayaI can't English today03:04
fungitoday isn't a day. it's a weekend03:04
anteayathat's it03:04
anteayaquestion for you, do you feel comfortable expanding gerrit rights on 3rd party testing accound admin to me?03:05
anteayaI don't want a responsibility that causes stress or concern for the team03:06
anteayabut I do think I can help out here03:06
fungiit's worth discussing. it's easy to do from a gerrit standpoint (put the 3pt evaluation board group as the owner of the voting version of the ett group)03:07
fungiso anyway, if we're going to start bots non-voting and ask them to prove themselves, we need to be able to point them not just to a list of expectations, but specific criteria by which they will be evaluated for readiness, timelines, et cetera03:07
anteayaand if I'm in that group fine and if that group is someone else fine03:07
anteayabut we also need to stem the spam in the meantime03:08
anteayathe voting spam03:08
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anteayaI'm not aware of any bots doing vote spam atm but the potential to have another wave is there03:09
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fungiand they've been impacting disjoint groups of developers. mostly either nova or neutron (as far as the ones which have been brought to my attention so far)03:10
fungiso whoever is making decisions on which bots have earned the right to vote, or revoking the same, benefit from having collective insight into the various projects which have third parties providing significant input03:12
anteayaI agree03:13
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fungii'm comfortable confirming that a bot is needlessly spamming or failing to adhere to some specific set of criteria and revoking access, but i don't feel like i have sufficient grounding in the day-to-day of the projects where these bots are voting to be able to evaluate their readiness to vote03:16
anteayaI accept that03:16
anteayaI can evaluate a more of what they would need to vote and would take input from others to enact a decision03:17
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: make enqueue_time passable to addChange
sdaguejeblair: ok, should be good now03:18
anteayafor cross project, a sampling of effected projects and feedback on the level of usefulness of comments and logs provided to developers03:18
sdaguewhen my wife insists on watching figure skating... I end up getting a lot of code done...03:18
anteayasdague: but the costumes, they are so lovely03:18
fungisdague: i can sympathize03:19
anteayaI can't watch figure skating03:19
fungiit's as pointless to me as sportball03:19
anteayaolympics yes, but not generally03:19
anteayacricket, now that's a game03:19
anteayaand curling03:19
sdagueI love curling03:19
sdagueyou ever do it?03:20
fungicaber toss, now there's a sport03:20
StevenKRight, my wife and I are happy to watch olympic figure skating03:20
anteayayes, I curled all through high school, was skip of the team in grade 1303:20
sdagueanteaya: nice03:20
anteayahaven't had time to curl in years03:20
sdagueI did a 2 week class after the 2006 games03:20
sdagueit was a ton of fund03:20
anteayabut I watch the big events03:20
anteayahow was your draw?03:21
sdaguehowever, the club is just over an hour drive03:21
anteayathat interferes03:21
sdagueanteaya: about what you'd expect after 2 weeks. Not great03:21
sdaguebut it was still fun03:21
anteayaas long as you get on and off the ice without falling over, you are good03:21
anteayaand buy a drink for your counterpart if you win03:22
anteayathat part isn't covered in the official rules03:22
anteayaused to curl with my family in bonspiels03:23
anteayafor those not here, Perth is hot03:24
anteayaI don't remember being anywhere this hot before03:24
anteayaso according to the zuul status page, some tests are running over an hour03:25
anteayais this due to some of the gate blocking bug fixes that rustlebee details in his email?03:25
anteayaI had thought we were down to 40 minutes or so per patch03:26
fungianteaya: i think the hpcloud vms are slower for us than they used to be03:27
anteayaand that is a big step backwards03:27
mordredhey all03:28
fungimordred: hi!!!03:28
sdaguemordred: aren't you supposed to be sportsball drinking?03:28
StevenKmordred: Hai!03:28
mordredit turns out my hong kong laptop can still tlk to my irc server03:28
mordredso hopefully I'll be a real human again soon03:28
anteayamordred: yay03:29
fungimordred: the prc didn't totally cripple it? sounds like the backdoor is working03:29
mordredfungi: I guess I'm not important enough for the prc03:29
fungime either03:29
fungi(or maybe that's just what the nsa wants us to think)03:30
sdaguemordred: well, when you get real humany -  (well a working version of it) is all we need to bump sqla to 0.803:30
mordredStevenK: howdy03:30
sdaguethough I'm still confused why the requirements integration tests are in the pbr tree03:30
mordredsdague: hysterical raisins03:30
mordredsdague: the whoel system needs overhaul, tbh03:30
sdagueI actually also believe that the only thing between us an sqla 0.9 is a few migrate work arounds03:31
sdaguethough I could be overly optimistic03:31
fungisdague: that started as "make sure pbr changes don't break all the things"03:31
jeblairmordred: fyi we like totally revoked all your access, but you can have it back when you're all set up...03:32
mordredjeblair: yes, I saw - and thank you03:32
lifelessfungi: if you have a minute -
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1268248 in openstack-ci "derekh has two entries in gerrit, can't add as reviewer" [Undecided,New]03:32
mikalanteaya: do you have a headache? Do you need some painkillers?03:32
mordredbtw - don't leave your laptop in your backseat if yuo park anywhere in SF03:32
fungilifeless: thanks. i'll fix03:32
jeblairmordred: we weren't sure about things like launchpad or pypi creds, so we assumed the worst.03:32
fungilifeless: or rather, clean up. the fix is no longer using lp for openid, but that's a ways out03:32
mordredjeblair: best choice03:33
mordredjeblair: enjoying oz?03:33
anteayamikal: yes, headache, pass on painkillers - I don't take medication, sitting in the hall is working fine, thanks03:34
* anteaya goes to get her water03:34
StevenKmordred: I think leaving a laptop visible anywhere in the car when parked anywhere is a terrible idea03:34
mikalanteaya: fair enough03:35
mordredStevenK: well, I had gotten used to New York where leaving a laptop just laying on the side of the road is perfectly safe03:35
mikalanteaya: what about gatorade or something like that?03:35
mikalmordred: not true! The cops would come out and explode it.03:35
mordredbut I forgot that I'd left civilization when I moved to california03:35
StevenKmordred: For instance, Sydney would have the same problem as SF03:35
jeblairmordred: yes, lovely; i'm in a room with StevenK, lifeless, mikal, jhesketh, anteaya, and others03:35
mordredjeblair: woot03:36
sdaguemordred: you are in the hipster jungle, it's brutal out there03:36
jeblairmordred: also matthewoliver who isn't in the room but is a sysadmin-type in oz who wants to help us.   at least, mikal and i keep telling him that.03:37
mordredsdague: no, I'd driven up there - I'm actually down in south bay ... one more reason to avoid the hipsters03:37
anteayamikal: where can I get a gatorade? I would drink that03:37
mordredjeblair: tell  me where I should mail beer for him to03:38
sdaguewhat's mikal's hoodie count up to?03:38
mordredI AM wearing a hoodie though03:38
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jeblairmordred: i think "matthew oliver, australia" should get to him.  there aren't that many ppl in this country.03:38
StevenKmordred: It is 105degF03:38
StevenKAnti-hoodie weather03:38
sdaguemy hoodies are all in the laundry. this whole working from home 100% of the time means openstack hoodies are my work uniform03:39
sdaguewhich means I clearly need more03:39
jeblairyou have to tie the little strings for the hood before you wash them03:39
jeblairi'm not really familiar with hoodies.  i learned that the hard way.03:39
mordredsdague: weirdly, my favorite hoodie has become my hp hoodie, which is weird - but they did a REALLY good job with construction, and the logo is very small03:40
StevenKmordred: When do I get a HP hoodie?03:41
mordredStevenK: it comes as part of the blood transfusion. lifeless told you about that part, right?03:41
mordredjeblair: the WORST part is that I went to the thinkpad site to look for a replacement, and they're all BATSHIT03:42
fungilifeless: derekh selectable for you now?03:42
mordredas in, I believe I'm going to give up and just use my hp laptop because the new thinkpads are all terrible looking03:42
StevenKmordred: Really? The X240 didn't look too bad03:42
mordredapparently we all want touch screens03:43
sdagueblame microsoft03:43
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sdagueso I actually like the old/new style keyboard on the thinkpads. So I picked up an X1 carbon before christmas03:44
jeblairmordred: i think you should get an x240 and tell me if i'm going to hate it.  :)03:44
sdaguehowever... the new new keyboard is crazy pants03:45
jeblairmordred: or get hp to make a dev laptop.  :)03:45
mordredjeblair: I'm sure you will03:45
StevenKThe only thing I don't like about the X240 is the crazy touchpad03:45
StevenKI want buttons!03:45
mordredjeblair: I figured out how to turn the touchpad off on my hp folio - and it' not terrible03:45
StevenKActual, physical buttons!03:46
* fungi blames ibm. i think the last ibm portable pc he used was a 5155 model 6803:46
sdagueStevenK: yeh, that's why I got the X1 carbon03:46
mordredi mean, it's not a thinkpad, but neither is the x24003:46
anteayawhere do I file a bug for the foundation website, so that a new foundation member gets an indication of success when the form is submitted?03:46
fungianteaya: which form? the foundation membership registration form?03:47
fungianteaya: anyway,
anteayayes the foundation membership registration form03:47
fungianteaya: also, ask them where you can download the source ;)03:48
fungi(only half kidding)03:48
jeblairmordred: indeed :(03:49
anteayafungi: I have a big enough can of worms currently03:49
StevenKsdague: The X1 Carbon didn't do it for me either03:49
anteayanot interested in poking that monster03:49
StevenKI have a X201 currently, and I love it to bits, aside from the battery being pretty terrible due to conferences03:50
sdagueStevenK: what didn't you like about it? just curious.03:51
StevenKsdague: My main problem is it doesn't look like a Thinkpad03:51
mordredX240 supports "up to 8G memory"03:51
StevenKBut the new design language doesn't either03:51
fungii've travelled with netbooks for so long now that laptops seem more like luggables03:51
StevenKmordred: Yes, it's terrible03:51
mordredwhat a pile of garbage03:52
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mordredI'm not going to fly in the face of all of the political flak I get for running a lenovo in meetings at hp03:52
sdaguemordred: yeh, I don't get why they aren't offering 16 yet in the ultrabooks03:52
mordredjust to run a piece of hardware that's substandard03:52
mordredI mean, I actually am not a lenovo fanboi - I ran lenovo because it was the best product available03:53
mordredbut if it's not the best product available... sigh03:53
fungimordred: just wheel around an hp k-series on a hand cart03:53
mordredfungi: yah03:53
sdagueI think someone was looking at making a new run of motherboards for the x22003:54
mordredhonestly - the folio that lifeless and I both have is not terrible, seriously. It's NOT as good as my old lenovo - but it's certainly comparble with the new ones03:54
fungihp/ux on parisc. you'll be the envy of the conference room03:54
StevenKWhy not ia64? Then you can't run anything, either.03:54
jeblairoh that's old03:55
jeblairmordred: look, you can use a thinkpad keyboard! :)03:55
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1268251 in openstack-org "submitting registration form should return success indicator" [Undecided,New]03:55
mordredjeblair: nice03:55
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mordredsdague: what was that review you were wanting?03:56
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lifelessmordred: how do we know this is you?03:57
sdaguethough I don't know why it doesn't pass03:57
mordredlifeless: butttoast03:57
StevenKmordred has been replaced by Watson?03:58
mikalanteaya: the drinks machine near the NOC has gatorade. I'd be happy to go get you one.03:58
mikal(Sorry, I only just noticed this message)03:58
lifelessmordred: the current gen of the folio should be pretty awesome, really.03:58
fungimordred: if i were the lowlife who swiped your laptop in the california wasteland, i'd say "butttoast too"03:58
anteayamikal: I accept03:59
lifelessmordred: it might even do 32GB of ram03:59
mordredfungi: then you'll  just have to wait to see if I push up 100 buggy patches in the next day03:59
sdaguejeblair: my zuul change seems to have failed - with no useful fail output -
fungimordred: we'll know it's you then, agreed03:59
lifelessnot without an ssh key in gerrit....04:00
anteayafungi: vlo1 is sitting beside me and is a new contributor04:00
sdagueStevenK: well, that would be a test. They had to put a vulgarity filter in front of watson, because apparently one of the test matches was *hilarious*04:00
anteayagerrit id is 994804:00
fungianteaya: what's the problem?04:00
mordredsdague: that's going to require more work than that patch, sadly04:00
sdaguemordred: ok04:01
anteayafungi: would you be so kind as to check the db for his account and tell me the status of his foundation membership?04:01
mordredsdague: probably needs a patch to run-mirror too04:01
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sdaguemordred: ok, well we can't current change requirements because of that04:01
anteayafungi: when he tries to submit the cla it says his foundation memebership doesn't exist04:01
sdagueso if you know how to fix it, that would be cool04:01
jeblairsdague: yes, i'm extremely frustrated by that.  it's a timeout, and i have no idea how to find out what test is failing, or how to get the log output from that test.04:01
fungianteaya: well, all i can do is confirm whether gerrit was able to get confirmation on a contact info update. but i'll look04:01
anteayaand I just watched him submit his foundation membership registration04:01
mordredsdague: yes. I grok the problem. the solution is probably beyond me given my current computing situation04:02
anteayafungi: thanks04:02
anteayafungi: and understood04:02
jeblairsdague: i'm at the mercy of someone who understands how that is supposed to work with testr.04:02
lifelessjeblair: whats up?04:02
fungianteaya: oh, make sure the primary e-mail address on his foundation profile is the same as his preferred e-mail address in gerrit04:02
anteayafungi: he only has one email04:03
anteayait is consisstent across the sign up04:03
anteayawe had discussed that last night04:03
mordredsdague: I will endeavor to get myself into a place where I can help fix that soonish04:03
sdaguemordred: cool04:03
sdaguemordred: who's looking after migrate at this point?04:04
mordredsdague: there is a team - it's in gerrit04:04
sdagueok, mostly distro folks, cool04:05
fungivlo1: welcome! and apologies for the inconvenience. i'm taking a look now04:05
sdagueany idea how responsive the sqla maintainer is?04:05
mordredsdague: very. he's cool04:06
sdagueok, cool, I'll see which of these bugs I can just get fixed up there instead04:06
vlo1fungi: thanks04:06
fungivlo1: anteaya: i see the account in gerrit, and gerrit's db confirms that the cla has not been agreed to nor has contact information been filed. checking the logs to see if we're maybe seeing connectivity issues to the foundation site or something04:09
fungi[2014-01-12 03:50:31,146] ERROR : Cannot store encrypted contact information04:10
fungithat was ~20 minutes ago04:11 Connection failed: 40404:11
fungiso i'm guessing something is wrong with the foundation site (either the foundation site's contact information submission endpoint is broken or it's having trouble confirming the right profile/address)04:12
anteayafungi: so our gerrit connection to the foundation site is unhappy04:12
anteayawho do we get for a fix?04:12
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anteayavlo1: so you have done everything correctly from what we can assess so far, well done04:13
anteayahe's gone :(04:13
fungivlo: i only see that once in the log. maybe trying a second time will work? could have just been temporary04:13
anteayaI can walk down the hall and update him04:13
anteayaI'll let him know04:14
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fungii'm passing out shortly. it's getting late04:17
jeblairsdague: lifeless helped me narrow it down to tests.test_scheduler.TestScheduler.test_client_enqueue_negative04:17
anteayafungi: k, thanks for your help04:17
lifelessjeblair: I think :)04:18
jeblairsdague: i don't have output for why it failed, but hopefully that narrows it down a bit04:18
jeblairsdague: i'd say 'recheck no bug' for your change04:18
fungilifeless: derekh selectable for you now?04:18
lifelessfungi: I'll check shortly - if he's selectable for you though, I'm sure it will be fine04:18
fungilifeless: seems fine. should be all set04:19
sdaguejeblair: yeh, I did04:21
sdaguejeblair: it passed the 2nd time04:21
sdagueit would be super awesome to get that and the queue times stuff merged by monday :)04:21
sdagueand with that, it's time to go watch some QI and call it a night.04:22
vlo1fungi: i tried it again - same error04:26
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anteayavlo1: looks like we are in a holding pattern until we get someone who can access the foundation site and assess it from their end04:27
anteayavlo1: sorry about that, but at leasat you are on irc so you know how to find us going forward04:28
anteayavlo1: this being a weekend, it might take until Monday to find a fix04:28
vlo1fungi: OK04:29
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anteayamikal: gatorade was it, starting to feel better04:30
anteayawater, who knew?04:30
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1268254 in openstack-org "no communication with gerrit" [Undecided,New]04:37
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anteayamattoliverau: yay04:47
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Allow concurrency to be tweaked for tempest
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portantejeblair, sdague: perhaps another zuul enhancement could be to indicate if a job in the gate is there because of a reverify or not05:50
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jeblairportante: neat idea; trigger cause could be tracked06:28
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-dev/hacking: Add -U to pip install command in tox.ini
openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Allow workers to send back metadata
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clarkbmade it to cottlesloe for breakfast and beaching then did maritime museum in fremantle, now a nap06:44
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anteayaclarkb: how were the waves today?06:58
clarkbsmall but the water is too cold for swimming07:00
anteayawhat a shame07:00
StevenKCompared to the 6,000degrees the beach sand is?07:01
clarkbStevenK yes I like warm water07:01
anteayaI wonder how the weather could get hotter and the water colder07:01
StevenKanteaya: That's what happens07:01
anteayawas great when pleia2 and I went07:01
StevenKHot weather == cold water ; cold weather == warm water07:02
anteayaI probably would have gone swimming anyway07:02
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anteayabut I have gone into glacier feed rivers previously, so that's me07:14
StevenKanteaya: I think Australia is not a conducive environment for glaciers :-)07:17
anteayaI agree with that assessemtn07:18
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openstackgerritMatthew Oliver proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adding apache redirect for the cacti url.
openstackgerritMatthew Oliver proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adding apache redirect for the cacti url.
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack-infra/git-review: Correct .Fl typo WRT --compare in the manual page
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jeblairfungi, clarkb: i think graphite may have upgraded to a broken version; i'm seeing a traceback when i look at images08:00
jeblairfungi, clarkb: but i'm not in a position to fix now.08:00
jeblairi expect that statsd will still be collecting data though08:00
jeblairso once graphite is fixed, hopefully we won't be mising data08:00
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ttxjeblair: still around?08:52
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ttxjeblair: sent you email instead09:15
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Use yaml local tags to support including files
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support lazy resolving of include yaml tags
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