Thursday, 2013-10-24

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fungihcc: you can try to add a reviewer by username, but i'll just check in the db01:17
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fungijog0: bug comment links working now thanks to sdague's eagle eyes for my regex error... https://review.openstack.org/5299801:23
fungihcc: the username "hcc" is not in use in our gerrit. what's your current account id number? i'll delete your current username so you can reset it to what you want through the web interface01:28
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Better end of console log indexing detection.  https://review.openstack.org/5348701:58
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ttxjeblair: about bubbles: when two+ people are ranked at the same level I average their value. So if you places Monty and Sean at rank 1, I would give both a ranking of 1.507:22
ttxand if you place yourself first then everyone at the same rank, I would give you 1 and everyone else would get 13.5.07:23
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lifelessttx: I don't see how 1 and 1 average to 1.507:30
lifelessttx: also when is the tc weekly meeting ?07:30
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ttxlifeless: it's 1 and 1 ex-aequo. The next rank is 307:34
hasharoh men,I forgot to vote :/07:34
hasharand good morning07:34
lifelessttx: o, 1+2/2 ?07:34
ttxyes07:34
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ttxlifeless: the tc weekly meeting is just before the release meeting, 2000 UTC07:35
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lifelessttx: ok cool07:41
lifelessttx: what day?07:42
ttxTuesday utc-wise07:42
ttxThat might make it Wednesday morning on your side of the universe07:42
lifelesshmm07:42
lifelessso I think I have 3 meetings at once at that point :(07:43
lifelesswheee07:43
lifelessone phone, two IRC07:43
lifelessor maybe it's only two.07:43
lifelesseither way. yippee07:43
ttxlifeless: it's after the TripleO meeting07:43
* ttx recommends using the ical feed at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings07:44
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lifelessttx: the ical feed is stale07:44
lifelessttx: it was showing the tripleo meeting an hour out; is it automatically updated?07:44
ttxlifeless: interesting. It's supposed to reflect a gcal feed which is definitely not stale07:44
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ttxtripleO at 1900, tc at 2000, release at 210007:45
lifelessttx: huh07:45
lifelessttx: I will try to remember who showed up to the tripleo meeting an hour late on the wrong day :)07:46
ttxlifeless: you can also directly add to google calendar if you use that sort of thing http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=YmowNW1yb3F1cTI4amh1ZDU4ZXNnZ3FtaDRAZ3JvdXAuY2FsZW5kYXIuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbQ07:48
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed a change to openstack-infra/odsreg: Put topic as session type rather than subtype  https://review.openstack.org/5354108:41
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/odsreg: Put topic as session type rather than subtype  https://review.openstack.org/5354108:42
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jeblairttx: hrm, i think i still don't understand.  it looks like there are ~50 columns of bubbles.  what do the columns represent? (i thought ranking, but there are only 25 ranks)09:03
jeblairttx: iow: what's the x axis? :)09:03
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ttxjeblair: it's your relative position in ballots. Let's take an example09:04
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ttxsomeone votes James, Sean = Monty, then everyone else09:04
ttxjames is ranked #109:05
ttxSean and monty are ranked equally, they are at rank #2.509:05
ttxthe rest of the people are ranked equally (ex-aequo 4th, or last depending on your perspective)09:06
ttxI gave them the average for 4-25, which is #14.509:06
ttxso if you get a #24.5 bubble that probably means you got a ballot that put you and some other guy at last position09:08
ttxif you get a #25 bubble that means someone hates you09:08
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ttxjeblair: does that make more sense ?09:08
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ttxthe goal of the graph is to show if you're a lowed-or-hated candidate, or someone more consensual.09:10
jeblairttx: ok.  i believe i understand.09:12
ttxjeblair: Basically in my example I can't give Sean and Monty a #2 bubble. Or a #3 bubble for tht matter. So I give them a #2.5 bubble :)09:13
ttxjeblair: push to sched enabled09:15
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ttxlifeless: push to sched enabled09:25
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Allow use template variables in dictionnary key  https://review.openstack.org/5115909:29
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lifelessttx: cool, where does it end up ?09:31
lifelessttx: is there a png or something somewhere with these bubbles on it?09:31
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jeblairlifeless: http://fnords.wordpress.com/2013/10/23/an-analysis-of-the-technical-committee-election/10:04
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hasharthat is a nice picture10:06
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hasharttx: you might want to link to whatever soft you used to generate the nice graph :]10:09
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ttxhashar: it's some manual work around http://nvd3.org/ghpages/scatter.html10:11
ttxI may end up cleaning it up so that it would be used on any CIVS ballot :)10:11
hasharmight even include it in http://www.cs.cornell.edu/andru/civs.html :]10:12
hasharthat is a nice library10:13
ttxhashar: yes, d3 makes my head hurt but once hashed by nvd3 I can wrap my head around it10:14
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rakhmerovmodrdred: I suppose you guys are very busy. Just expressing my hope to get this reviewed more or less soon (really needed). https://review.openstack.org/#/c/5120510:18
openstackgerritZhi Yan Liu proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Adopt 0.1.8 as iso8601 minimum version  https://review.openstack.org/5356710:26
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sdaguettx: is the sched.org sorted out?11:23
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jog0sdague: morning11:45
sdaguejog0: morning11:48
jog0sdague: I hear you are working on a upgrade RPC test11:48
jog0https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/121468311:48
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1214683 in openstack-ci "RPC compatibility required across minor RPC changes but not tested" [High,Triaged]11:48
sdaguejog0: dansmith is11:48
jog0dansmith: ^11:49
sdagueI was mostly helping direct how we'd use devstack / grenade to do that11:49
jog0ahh so there is a easier way to do it (and worse way) that  I have tried and documented in that bug report11:49
sdagueso, nova-compute doesn't touch the database11:50
sdaguethe theory is basically a kind of grenade job where you leave nova-compute running off the old tree11:50
jog0sdague: yeah thats what I tested11:51
jog0and set the relavent rpc flag11:51
jog0and just run tempest on it11:51
sdagueyeh11:51
jog0instead of upgrading all services from old I just deployed to the split state11:51
sdagueyeh, that's an option as well, I was just thinking using grenade gives us an infrastructure to handle both trees, but if you've got another way to do it, I'm sure dansmith would appreciate it11:52
jog0sdague: yeah I agree grenade may be better11:52
sdagueI do get concerned if we have too many tools that setup environments though, just from a reviewing perspective11:53
jog0this was a quicker hack for me to test  by hand11:53
sdagueyep, that's what he was doing basically11:53
sdaguein his local env11:53
jog0sdague: cool, I wanted to write this test before havana but ran out of time11:53
jog0so glad someone else is11:53
sdagueyep, well dan's working on it, plus we've set asside a session in the QA track on it11:53
jog0nice11:54
jog0long term tripleo will cover this as well11:54
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jog0well the CD version of the test11:54
sdagueyep, I made sure lifeless knew about the session as well, as I want him there11:54
sdaguejog0: you still in scottland?11:55
jog0sdague: awesome and yup11:55
sdague:)11:55
jog0sdague: london tomorrow11:55
sdaguecool11:55
sdagueso this log harmonization thing... I'm starting to wonder if it makes sense to have a single release work group to get some folks together to keep this ball moving (then hopefully disband in success)11:57
jog0sdague: so part of this upgrade testing will eventually be defining an upgrade order, as we don't want to support any old upgrade order as that will be too hard or impossible11:57
sdaguejog0: yes, definitely11:57
jog0we will hit that soon in tripleo11:57
jog0++ to working group for log harmonization11:58
sdagueI think that each service is going to need to define that order, as they know what kind of sequence they can support11:58
jog0I would like to take that one step further and make it operator / user experience harmonization11:58
jog0log file locations, process names CLI etc11:58
katyaferventHi! Do you guys know the best way to point out github repository in requirements.txt? Should I use -e option? Thanks in advance.11:59
sdaguejog0: yeh, agreed. Let's start small though. The log thing would take us a huge ways :)11:59
sdaguekatyafervent: honestly, you really shouldn't point to a github repo, you should only pull in released software on pypi12:00
jog0sdague: for upgrade order yeah -- it would be nice to get some people from each project in a room for that12:00
jog0or the ML may be best12:00
jog0sdague: for sure12:00
jog0but that working group should be on the more general case12:00
jog0and start with logs12:00
sdaguejog0: so... see about rounding up folks for this session - http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/27812:00
katyaferventsdague, it's for temporary usage. Could it be that pbr would not accept that?12:01
jog0that may be hard at the summit, I'm thinking if we have the upgrade framework and just ask projects to define an upgrade order that may  be easier12:01
jog0katyafervent: we (upstream) wouldn't accept it12:02
sdaguejog0: maybe. Honestly, I get fearful of just working groups with open ended mantras, as you tend to get people that just want to dictate vs. do. The idea of coming together to solve a cross project need, and disbanding, seems more execution focussed12:02
jog0as github is not reliable enough12:02
jog0sdague: perhaps  Iwas thinking this working group would be the ones pushing patches12:02
jog0so more doing less talking12:02
sdaguejog0: on upgrade - I think we figure out how to solve it for nova first, and then what patterns we can extract. I'm very happy that nova's going first here, I think it will shake out a lot.12:03
sdaguejog0: sure12:03
jog0sdague: agreed, although I don't actually know what order for nova yet.  things get complex quick12:04
jog0sdague: for example we know that we want to upgrade nova-compute last12:04
sdagueyep12:04
sdagueyeh, so I agree, there are lots of details to work through :)12:04
jog0but when do we upgrade DB?  etc.12:05
katyaferventsdague, jog0 Thanks for the information)12:05
jog0sdague: having the framework to test this all makes these decisions much easier. so if we can hammer out the framework that will pave the way12:05
sdagueright, fair12:05
jog0sdague: and I don't think a full upgrade framework will be trivial12:06
sdagueagreed, baby steps12:06
sdaguejog0: while I have yuo - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52698/  (and dependencies) :)12:06
jog0sdague: yes, but we will hit the upgrade problem soon in tripleo so ...12:06
sdaguee-r code12:06
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jog0and upgrade framework is easier in tripleo -- will use heat + images etc12:08
jog0plus multiple machines12:08
jog0sdague: will look in the e-r code in a moment12:08
jog0have to write a silly email about vim modelines first12:08
sdague:)12:10
sdagueyeh, tripleo still exists outside of ci though, which means it's not usable for projects to realize they broke upgrade12:10
sdagueI really think we need whatever we are doing to be able to be gating on every commit12:11
sdagueotherwise there will be too much chasing12:11
jog0sdague: preaching to the choir on that. although we are working on tripleo gate12:12
jog0pleia2: ^ when you are up12:12
jog0sdague: another reason why lifeless should be in on this discussion at the summit12:14
sdagueoh... the tripleo ci topic was submitted in tripleo and not qa, I was wondering where it was on the schedule12:17
jog0sdague: sigh12:17
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jog0just sent the second silliest ML email I have written.12:39
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mordredyes. you're all right12:41
jog0mordred: what city are you in?12:42
mordredjog0: raleigh12:43
mordredjog0: and yes, that's a silly email12:43
jog0mordred: silliest was period at end of commit msg12:43
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jog0mordred: wow you really are all over the place this week12:44
mordredjog0: zomg. you're not kidding12:44
anteayaall hail the period at the end of the commit msg12:44
mordredjog0, russellb: I just had a TERRIBLE idea12:45
jog0anteaya: :)12:45
mordredjog0, russellb: insired by the nova blueprint thread12:45
anteaya:D12:45
mordredwhat if we used gerrit12:45
mordred?12:45
jog0you mean 'all hail the period at the end of teh commit msg.'12:45
mordred(I know we're working on storyboard - but hear me out for a second)12:45
* jog0 never hears mordred out12:46
mordredif we do it like the openstack/governance repo is12:46
anteayajog0: you are correct.12:46
ttxmordred: ew12:46
mordredthen each blueprint would be a document in a folder somewhere in nova12:46
jog0mordred: I have thought about that, I actually like the idea12:46
mordredwhich means that, when we're done, we have a record of the design that's in the docs12:46
mordredalso, once the blueprint lands, there will be a known url location for the spec12:46
mordredonce we have storyboard12:46
mordredwe could have gerrit magic that would create a story for it when the blueprint lands12:47
anteayais there a storyboard design session ttx?12:47
mordredso that then there would be a story to track dev against12:47
mordredbut that way we have the same review process for it that we do for everything else12:47
jog0mordred: we could have a nova blueprints or nova design repo12:47
mordredjog0: why not just have them in the nova repo?12:47
ttxanteaya: there i, but i'm not a fan of mordred's idea. What's good for refining code is not necessarily good for describing ideas and tracking their porogress12:47
mordredin doc/source/12:47
mordredttx: I don't think it's good for tracking their progress12:48
mordredttx: I do think it could be fine for a design specification12:48
mordredthat way if you want to change the design, you get people to double check you12:48
ttxmordred: that would duplicate the discussion though12:48
ttxor even triplicate it12:49
mordredwould it?12:49
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jog0mordred: doc source could work too.12:49
ttx(if you count the discussion around when the code actually lands)12:49
mordredttx: the discussion around the code landing should be about the implementation, not the design12:49
jog0ttx: I don' tthink it would cause ro much extra discussion.12:49
mordredthe discussion in storyboard would most likely be more around the work to implement it12:49
mordredttx: I'm not sure it's great - it just struck me when russellb said "blueprint review process"12:50
jog0mordred: thats one of the things we are tying to address, make sure design discussions happen earlier. before code is written12:50
mordredthat we could end up with two different review-oriented processes and tools12:50
mordredand that also seems a bit odd12:50
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anteayattx okay, I'll plan on attending the storyboard design session and ack that this discussion is separate from that design session12:50
ttxmordred: I think I prefer to have everything in one place. I don't expect there to be so much revisions that using gerrit for that would bring a benefit (or enough benefit to compensate the drawback of using two tools instead of one)12:50
ttxmordred: LP is so weak in blueprints that anythign would be better, so using gerrit makes sense12:51
mordredttx: the other benefit is that we coudl start doing it now, whereas storyboard is still at least 4 months away12:51
jog0ttx: one benifit, short term would be launchpad bps are terrible for discussion12:51
mordredmaybe we use gerrit for now, and we use that as a learning experience for what storyboard needs to have in that area?12:51
jog0err what you said ttx12:51
ttxmordred: also I don't want work on writing the spec to result in less doc being produced12:51
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ttxi.e. the "hey, I wrote the spec, that should be enough for you" mentality12:52
mordredttx: well, shouldn't the spec need to be good enough to be documentation?12:52
mordredor, include a documentation section?12:52
ttxalso specs are moving beasts, not sure they would fare well in a approval model12:52
annegentlemordred: they should be good enough for a docs follow up12:53
anteayaanything that would help me understand what storyboard is supposed to be accomplishing would improve the odds I contribute effectively to storyboard12:53
jog0mordred: we want docimpact at bp time http://justwriteclick.com/2013/09/17/openstack-docimpact-flag-walk-through/12:53
mordredjog0: exactly12:53
anteayaso far I get, be better than launchpad... which doesn't lend itself to patches from me12:53
mordredanteaya: have you seen ttx's doc on the design?12:53
anteayano12:54
mordredah12:54
anteayamaybe I should read that12:54
ttxanteaya: it's task tracking. Write stories (bugs to be fixed, features to be implemenented) and then link to tasks (actual commits in actual branches)12:54
anteayathat I get12:54
ttxand track completion and release targeting of all12:54
mordredttx: do you have the link to the wiki page?12:54
anteayabut the implementation of same is where I fall down12:54
ttxanteaya: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Task_Tracker_Requirements would be the original doc12:54
* anteaya clicks12:55
jog0ttx: we already have the issue where BP says we will do x using y, and we approve that. but the actual patches do something else, which leads to a discssion on it anyway. so this would just move that discussion to a different place. something we want to do anyway.  as the final design  doc should reflect the implimentation.12:55
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ttxjog0: frankly, if we can get everyone to accept that every commit should be linked to a story (bug or feature) then I'll be happy enough12:57
ttxthat would be a huge progress already12:57
jog0ttx: I am not sure we want to do that.  would something like this need a link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51293/ ?12:57
mordredjog0: yes12:58
ttxjog0: the problem is, how do you prevent people from not linking ? review ?12:58
mordredjog0: why not? (if making a story is easy)12:58
jog0or my favorite https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52497/12:58
ttxheck, we could even automake stories if the commit message asks for it12:58
mordredjog0: "story is 'remove vim modelines from everything' and it applies to 'all projects'"12:58
jog0ttx: that works for me. if its minimal overhead sure12:58
ttx"Create-Story-For-Me: Please"12:58
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mordredjog0: ok. the second one is silly :)12:59
jog0ttx: I want the 'Write-Patch-For-Story: Please' flag12:59
mordredttx: yeah. I'd think "story: trivial" should cause a story to be created with the contents of the commit message12:59
jog0mordred: I was debugging something in my tripleo devref and noticed that so fixed it13:00
mordredjog0: yup13:00
ttxmordred: oh, and what about those meta-repo postrelease tasks ? Did you get those covered yet ? Still relevant ?13:00
mordredttx: the meta repo still hasn't landed13:00
ttxok13:00
ttxi'll remove my wait task about it -- just shout if you need me for anything13:00
mordredspeaking of13:01
mordredI'm going to land that13:01
mordredbecause fail13:01
anteayacan I see an example of a current release summary page, ttx?13:01
ttxBasically, it's great that Nova wants to be stricted about blueprints, but I'd rather raise the minimal level that we accept13:01
anteayawhere would I find one?13:01
ttxanteaya: that would be https://launchpad.net/glance/havana/2013.213:02
* anteaya clicks again13:02
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add read-only tracking superproject for OpenStack  https://review.openstack.org/5021213:03
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/requirements: Adopt 0.1.8 as iso8601 minimum version  https://review.openstack.org/5356713:11
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ttxjeblair: did you get to a solution for the TC panel overlap ? Should I change anything to the schedule ?13:55
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Review and create Puppet configuration for dev server blueprint BLUEPRINT sso-openid-provider  https://review.openstack.org/5364414:20
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openstackgerritMichael Prokop proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: doc: fix typos, missing closing parentheses, unify some upper vs lower case words  https://review.openstack.org/5364614:25
openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Review and create Puppet configuration for dev server blueprint sso-openid-provider  https://review.openstack.org/5364414:25
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* anteaya looks up semestrial, she loves new words14:30
SteapHey! http://ci.openstack.org/stackforge.html mentions "PyPI uploads" as one of the benefits of getting into StackForge. Is this something that is 'automatically done' once a project is accepted into StackForge, or do I have to submit my project to PyPI myself ?14:30
anteayahi Steap, fungi might be able to answer that once he gets wifi at the conference he is at14:30
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anteayaor Alex_Gaynor might know if he is about14:31
anteayaor perhaps mordred14:31
anteayajeblair would know to but he might be on a plane14:31
Alex_GaynorSteap: it's one of the jobs you can specify in the zuul config14:31
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Alex_GaynorSteap: I think there's also some other configuration that's needed so it knows who to receive tags from (releases are done based on pushing signed tags to gerrit)14:31
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SteapAlex_Gaynor: ok, so I should probably start by looking at the 'project-name-pypi-upload' in zuul/layout.yaml, see how it works14:33
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Alex_GaynorSteap: I believe it manages everything, but dstufft could say for sure14:34
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mordredanteaya: I didn't do it14:36
anteayano no you didn't14:36
anteayaAlex_Gaynor has taken care of the question14:36
anteayahappy conferencing14:36
mordredSteap: there is currently a manual step you need to do14:36
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mordredSteap: which is register on pypi and then grant openstackci owner access on the project in pypi14:37
mordredSteap: we have a todo list item to automate that ... just haven't gotten to it yet14:37
Steapmordred: ok, thanks14:37
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Steapmordred: my project has not been integrated in StackForge yet, so I guess I'll register it to PyPI while my 'application' is being reviewed14:37
mordred++14:38
openstackgerritMichael Prokop proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: doc: fix typos, missing parentheses, upper/lower case  https://review.openstack.org/5364614:38
mordredand sorry about the delay - a bunch of us are only marginally here this week14:38
mordredSteap: you got a link to a review?14:38
* anteaya didn't know about the need to register on pypi, good to know14:38
Steapmordred: yes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53306/14:38
mordredanteaya: was the earlier information about storyboard helpful?14:39
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anteayavery much so, filled in some huge gaps14:39
anteayalike what things are supposed to look like and why this is a goal in the first place14:39
mordredSteap: looks good. do you want to amend it to add pypi upload jobs?14:39
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anteayaI know I was told, but it helps me to see it14:39
mordredSteap: you'll need to add things to modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml and modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/projects.yaml14:40
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mordredbut there should be at least a bazillion other projects doing it that you can cargo cult from14:40
mordredlook for stackforge/python-libraclient for an example of a stackforge project publishing to pypi14:40
Steapmordred: yes. Can I add the pypi-upload stuff __before__ I've actually registered the project on PyPI ?14:40
mordredSteap: absolutely14:40
Steapmordred: good to know14:41
mordredSteap: it will only upload to pypi in response to tag events from you14:41
SteapI'll resubmit the patch to the infra, then register to PyPI14:41
mordredwoot14:41
Steapmordred: I have to git tag <version> to trigger a PyPI upload ?14:41
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mordredSteap: yes. and because you're using pbr, you'll want to be sure that you do git tag -s <version>14:42
mordredSteap: because pbr will ignore non-signed tags14:42
mordredSteap: AND - the tag should just be a plain X.Y.Z tag - no v prefix or anything14:43
Steapok14:43
mordredso - git tag -s 1.0.1 ; git push gerrit 1.0.114:43
Steapmordred: is there some kind of documentation somewhere on the stackforge wiki ?14:43
mordredwill tag and release14:43
mordredSteap: there is a documentation somewhere, and I have NO IDEA where we put it :)14:43
openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add murano-metadataclient to stackforge  https://review.openstack.org/5209214:43
Steaphahah14:43
mordredmaybe anteaya can help you find it14:43
* mordred has to run away again real quick14:43
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Steapmordred: and I do have to use a 'gerrit' remote ? Isn't that the 'default' (= origin) remote once teh project is in StackForge ?14:44
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewday: Adds tripleO related projects.  https://review.openstack.org/5338514:49
anteayaSteap: here is what we have for tagging a release: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritJenkinsGit#Tagging_a_Release14:49
anteayattx can you confirm that this syntax "git push gerrit RELEASE-TAG-NAME" is the correct syntax for tagging?14:50
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anteayaI have never tagged before, so I don't have the voice of experience14:51
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed a change to openstack-infra/odsreg: Notification should not say you can edit  https://review.openstack.org/5365414:53
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/odsreg: Notification should not say you can edit  https://review.openstack.org/5365414:54
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ttxNg, anteaya: there ^14:55
anteayayes, I didn't get a chance to upvote14:55
anteayayou are too fast on the lever :D14:55
anteayaand thanks14:55
anteayaso ttx, tagging syntax14:55
ttxanteaya: no it's not the way to tag, that would be the way to push the tag up14:56
anteayaah14:56
ttxgit tag -m "$TAGMESSAGE" -s "$TAGNAME" $COMMITSHA14:56
anteayaSteap: so I am wrong, don't do that14:56
ttxthat tags your local repo14:56
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ttxgit push gerrit $TAGNAME14:56
ttxthat pushes your tag to the gerrit repo14:57
Ngttx: nice :)14:57
Steapok14:57
SteapThanks a lot :)14:57
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ttxNg: won't solve your too-late-to-edit underlying issue though14:57
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anteayaat bit piecemeal, Steap but hopefully you have a way forward14:57
ttxNg: will just keep people from asking me why oh why14:58
anteayacome back if you hit blocks14:58
Ngttx: :)14:58
openstackgerritMatthew Mosesohn proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: add openstack-fuel-dev channel to gerritbot  https://review.openstack.org/5365614:58
mattymo^ me14:58
anteayaanything to keep back the hoards, eh ttx?14:58
ttxanteaya: that's the plan14:58
anteaya:)14:59
pleia2sdague: we have an experimental gate test up on tripleo-incubator, it doesn't do anything yet but I'm working on it15:00
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anteayamorning pleia215:00
anteayahow are you feeling today?15:00
anteayaand yay for tripleo testing!15:00
pleia2good morning15:01
pleia2a little better than yesterday :)15:01
anteayaI'm glad to hear that15:01
anteayakeep the kleenex close15:02
jeblairsdague, jog0: running jobs using the tripleo cloud is highly experimental; it's not likely to be gating for some time, especially not part of the integrated gate until there's solid process around the hardware, a track record, and ideally multiple installations15:03
sdaguejeblair: yep, definitely understood. I was just surprised the conversation at summit was scheduled solely in the tripleo context, and not in the infra or qa contexts15:03
jeblairsdague, jog0: we're all excited and looking forward to it, but i mention that mostly to set expectations that it is not the case that as soon as we can run stuff we will start gating on it15:03
jeblairjog0: so upgrade testing outside of that context is still very useful15:04
jeblairsdague: that is the first i've heard of that too.  i find that very strange.15:04
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pleia2probably just because it's a very important issue for them, decided to use up one of their slots rather than ours?15:06
jeblairsdague: but now that i read it, it makes sense -- it's not _too_ different than things we've seen before ("how can we test foo in nova?")15:06
jeblairpleia2: ++15:06
jeblairwe should definitely see if we qa/infra ppl are available for that15:06
jeblairttx: i think the status with that infra slot is okay (everyone is equally mildly unhappy, which is the best possible outcome)15:07
sdagueyeh, definitely make sure it's advertised. Also ideally not scheduled over the devstack sessions :)15:07
jog0jeblair: yeah we will need upgrade testing outside of tripleo for sure15:07
jog0at the very least non-CD style upgrades15:08
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sdagueyep, and we've got a session for it even - http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/event/e5e2f274c27c297cc91283fd49d08d0b15:08
anteayahehe, the goal to achieve equally distributed mild unhappiness15:09
sdaguesee dictionary: compromise15:09
sdague:)15:09
jeblairooh, so it looks like qa/infra/tripleo are all non-overlapping.  i assume that's on purpose.  nice, ttx.  :)15:10
anteayahehe15:10
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ttxjeblair: I actually can learn from past mistakes15:10
sdague:)15:11
sdagueand the tripleo ci is in the afternoon block, so it doesn't clobber me on devstack, so I should be able to be there15:11
ttxjeblair: the trick was to make sure that the OTHER tracks would still be able to attend SOME infra/qa/release sessions15:11
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ttxhence the elaborate striping15:11
jeblair++15:11
sdaguettx: yeh, the striping model I think was very good15:11
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sdagueit should also reduce burn out a bit15:12
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jog0how does that work with nova?15:12
ttxsdague: actually the proposed heat/cinder inversion will stripe it even more for cinder folks, which is good15:12
ttx(otherwise they would miss 4 QA slots)15:12
sdaguebecause I only need to throw tomatoes at jeblair's sessions, not actually catch the tomatoes15:12
ttxerr.515:13
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fungiright, on summit sessions i assume we'll divide and conquer over conflicting talks of interest as in the past. not ideal but certainly tractable15:15
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anteayahey fungi, how goes the conference?15:16
fungianteaya: Steap: the tagging command in the wiki is also correct, merely not as detailed (it will tag your current HEAD whatever that is, and will spawn your editor to compose the tag commit message)15:16
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fungiso ttx's recommendation is a little safer, or at least less prone to cause surprise15:17
anteayagreat15:17
anteayaless surprise is nice15:17
fungianteaya: it's great. just saw fallenpegasus's openstack talk, and mordred's standing here about to start going on his15:17
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anteayamordred does go on rather nicely15:18
anteayaglad fallenpegasus did a good presentation15:19
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dhellmannsdague: can I get you to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48411/ again?15:35
openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add sphinxcontrib-docbookrestapi  https://review.openstack.org/5330615:35
sdaguedhellmann: sure. I'm ok with it after some rethought, to the gate....15:37
dhellmannsdague: cool, thanks!15:38
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sdagueso has anyone registered wheresmonty.org? I'd be ok if it even just returned a utc offset15:39
anteayaha ha ha15:40
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anteayado it, please do it15:40
dhellmannsdague: random lat/long values?15:42
sdagueoh man, it would be like - http://geoguessr.com/15:43
sdaguewhich, by the way, will eat your afternoon15:43
mgagnethanks sdague... :-/15:44
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anteayareed how do folks contact you if they want to find out about break out room protocol?15:45
reedprotocol>15:45
reed?15:45
reedto contact me for anything either here or email is fine :)15:45
anteayak15:45
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for bug 1244255  https://review.openstack.org/5367015:46
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1244255 in openstack-ci "NovaException: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124425515:46
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anteayaif a vendor wants to give a workshop can they use a break out room15:46
anteayais that what they are for?15:46
sdagueclarkb: how much longer do we need to support both query formats?15:46
reedoh, that's a different thing... rooms are limited so they need to contact either Claire or Lauren15:46
anteayaokay15:47
anteayaare their emails on the summit site?15:47
reedanteaya, same pattern as others: claire@openstack and lauren@openstac ... also there is a general contact point events@openstack15:47
openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add sphinxcontrib-docbookrestapi  https://review.openstack.org/5330615:48
anteayareed awesome thanks15:48
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for bug 1244255  https://review.openstack.org/5367015:50
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1244255 in openstack-ci "NovaException: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124425515:50
ttxannegentle: around ?15:51
openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add murano-metadataclient to stackforge  https://review.openstack.org/5209215:54
ttxannegentle: about to close for the day and won't be much around tomorrow. Last chance to confirm those SHAs and get them tagged15:54
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openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add sphinxcontrib-docbookrestapi  https://review.openstack.org/5330615:56
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reedmordred, fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53644/ <- this is an important patch15:57
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katyaferventfungi, Hi! I resolved your comments here https://review.openstack.org/52092 Hope, that works) Please take a look when you'll have a minute15:59
pleia2reed: lots of character weirdness and trailing whitespace in a few of the files, like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53644/2/modules/openstack_project/manifests/openid_dev.pp15:59
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pleia2not sure what those >> things are16:00
pleia2(tabs maybe?)16:00
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openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add sphinxcontrib-docbookrestapi  https://review.openstack.org/5330616:02
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anteayapleia2 reed yes I saw the same and made comments to that effect16:03
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anteayaalso the tarball of redis strikes me as odd16:03
anteayawhy does this patch include a redis tarball?16:03
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openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add sphinxcontrib-docbookrestapi  https://review.openstack.org/5330616:15
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reedanteaya, ah, didn't notice that16:17
reedthe tarball16:17
anteayalet's notice that16:17
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reedanteaya, oops, commented after you :) didn't vote though16:19
annegentlettx: sorry didn't see an email, looking16:21
reedjamesmcarthur, welcome!16:21
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reedannegentle, I think ttx left already, he's afk16:21
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anteayareed:  okay is the patch creator on irc?16:22
reedguys, jamesmcarthur is one of our fine developers at tipit, helping the Foundation get its properties on openstack infrastructure16:22
reedanteaya, jamesmcarthur just joined the room :)16:22
anteayawelcome jamesmcarthur16:23
reedanteaya, the actual author of the patch is Sebastian but I don't see him here yet16:23
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anteayawelcome to Sebastian when he gets here16:23
reedwe may want to wait for Sebastian as I'm not sure jamesmcarthur knows the details of his patch16:23
anteayafair enough16:23
clarkbmorning16:23
anteayajamesmcarthur: glad you are here, feel free to ask any questions16:24
anteayamorning clarkb16:24
clarkbsdague: however long the period of time we draw graphs for is16:24
jamesmcarthur:) thanks reed16:24
clarkbsdague: which is either 1 week or 2, I would need to double check16:24
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annegentlereed: ok that's fine thanks :)16:24
jamesmcarthuryes, i'll ping sebastian now as he will be able to answer any questions about the patch16:25
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anteayajamesmcarthur: thank you16:26
* anteaya steps away for a bit of lunch16:26
openstackgerritXingchao Yu proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add puppet-designate project to StackForge  https://review.openstack.org/5368216:27
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jamesmcarthurhey sebastian, thanks for joining.16:29
smarcethey16:29
jeblairo/16:30
clarkbjeblair: are we building graphs with e-r for the last week or last 2 weeks?16:31
jeblairclarkb: i think it's 1 wk16:32
clarkbsdague: ^ we can remove the old stuff on monday then16:32
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mgagneWhy is XML not changed in this change? Shouldn't it be changed since jobs have been added? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53682/116:34
clarkbmgagne: its a limitation in the test, it builds a list of known tests to diff against in the run with merged code16:34
jeblairclarkb, sdague: confirmed (code is in e-r)16:34
clarkbmgagne: since these new tests only show up in the new unmerged commit they are not diffed16:34
mgagneclarkb: ok, thanks for the info16:35
clarkbmgagne: we can probably make that test a little better with some use of find16:35
clarkbat the very least diff the list of tests16:35
clarkbjeblair: thanks16:35
mgagneclarkb: unless the purpose of the test is to find changes in existing jobs, not new ones16:35
jamesmcarthurjeblair: with regards to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53644/ and the redis tar ball16:36
clarkbmgagne: I think that is a big part of it16:36
clarkbmgagne: but having it also show new tests can't hurt16:36
mgagneclarkb: ok, lets keep it that way16:36
mgagneclarkb: or that =)16:36
jamesmcarthuris there a way to get the latest version of redis using the package manager?16:36
jeblairjamesmcarthur: it looks like ubuntu precise has 2.2.12.  will that work?16:37
smarceti amfraid that is too old16:38
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smarcetcurrent version its 2.6.1616:38
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jeblairsmarcet: why do you need the newest version?16:38
smarcetwell , in accordance with http://redis.io/download16:39
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smarcet2.6.16 replaces Redis 2.416:39
smarcetso its seems to be that at least we should use 2.416:40
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smarcetbc performance and memory usage mostly16:40
russellbjeblair: low priority ... but can you add me to the access list for #openstack-nova when you have a minute?16:41
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jeblairdrumkilla: done16:44
jeblairsmarcet: we like to run our servers on long-term-support releases of ubuntu (or centos) so that we don't have to constantly upgrade their software16:45
smarcetok got it16:45
clarkbrussellb: I would do it, but I don't seem to be on that access list16:45
jeblairsmarcet: usually that means we get security updates too, even though the software is older16:45
smarceton that case i will stick with apt-get package16:45
smarcet:)16:45
russellbjeblair: ha, thanks :)16:45
jeblairclarkb: i got it :)16:46
smarcet@jeblair: i will modify script to use package manager , np :)16:46
jeblairsmarcet: ok, if it works for you, that's probably best.  it's in the universe section which means it doesn't have the highest priority for security updates16:46
clarkbsmarcet: if you haven't seen it there is a semi dead redis manifest in modules/logstash/manifests16:47
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jeblairsmarcet: so if you really needed a newer version, we could try to find a ppa or something...16:47
jeblairclarkb: using apt?16:47
clarkbbut it may have useful bits, I should work on cleaning that stuff up though16:47
clarkbjeblair: yes16:47
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clarkbfrom when I was following the recommended logstash architecture which was a bit silly16:48
jog0got a strange error16:48
jeblairsmarcet: but i think we should try to use the version in precise first, so cool.16:48
jog0https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1244055 is breaking havana a gate16:48
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1244055 in nova "six has no attribute 'add_metaclass'" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:48
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smarcet@jeblair: ok got it16:48
jog0the strange part is the right version if six appears to be installed16:48
clarkbjog0: was just going to ask which version of six is installed16:49
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jog0clarkb: more details http://logs.openstack.org/04/53404/2/check/check-tempest-devstack-vm-full/a7b157b/16:50
clarkbjog0: six 1.4.1 is a working version?16:50
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clarkbI might know what the problem is16:50
clarkbgive me a minute to confirm16:50
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jog0clarkb: it shoul be16:50
jog0cool16:50
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clarkbyup, tempest runs its tests with tox so it is using a virtualenv. But that virtualenv has sitepackages=True so it should be picking up six 1.4.1 however tempest in havana requires six <1.4.0 and I think new tox is able to see that the global version isn't right so it installs that to the virtualenv16:52
clarkbnow I just need to confirm that the metaclass feature was added in six >1.4.016:53
jog0I don't think it uses tox16:53
clarkbjog0: but I think proposing a change to tempest stable/havana that fixes the six requirement in tempest will get it moving again16:53
clarkbjog0: it does16:53
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jeblairjog0: recent-ish change (a few months maybe?)16:54
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jog0clarkb: I will try that change16:54
jog0easier to test that way anyway16:55
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clarkbyup add_metaclass was added in 1.4.016:55
clarkbso making the tempest requirements match nova should work16:55
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jog0clarkb: patch coming soon16:57
jog0btw this will break in the future16:57
clarkbjog0: how?16:57
jog0because stable branches use latest novaclient16:57
clarkbI think the lesson here is we can't pin libs like six16:58
jog0err wait this makes no sense16:58
clarkbunfortunately we attempted to do this and some of the pinning happened16:58
jog0tempest has a novaclient requirement ohh but using sitepackages16:58
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* jog0 hates dependency hell16:59
clarkbme too16:59
clarkbjog0: I think you are right that this can break again in the future. Tempest may need to isolate itself from the pythonclient that it uses somehow16:59
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clarkbto avoid future python*clients from breaking it16:59
jog0any trunk code in a stable release needs its own venv17:00
clarkbya17:00
sdaguejeblair: ok, I'll probably bump it to two weeks, but that's tomorrow's run at things17:00
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clarkbsdague: if we do that we will want to keep the backward compat searches until a week from monday17:01
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harlowjaqq, is it possible to get an approved on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52462/ :)17:02
clarkbharlowja: I will review that shortly17:02
harlowjathx :)17:02
* harlowja just wants to get taskflow on pypi (via the offical way, and i think i need that)17:03
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clarkbya you do17:03
harlowjak, much appreciated clarkb17:03
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sdagueclarkb: I'm ok with that17:04
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clarkbsdague: yup, fine by me too. Just noting the graphs are what determine how long we need to keep the backward compat stuff17:05
jog0sdague: is it true we run tempest with tox?17:05
sdaguejog0: yes... but oddly17:06
sdaguealso, qa meeting atm, so I may be slow to respond17:06
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zaroclarkb: talking about jenkins scalability today.  what was your gripe?  something aboout not being able to get results of jobs when they are aborted?17:10
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clarkbzaro: that doesn't seem familiar, but there are many gripes :)17:12
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ArxCruzclarkb: question17:13
clarkbzaro: a big one is how executors can be disconnected from the master then when a job tries to run on the slave the job fails17:13
ArxCruzI'm trying to install puppet modules with install_modules.sh, and on fedora, since it gets the default puppet from repository17:13
clarkbjenkins should check connectivity first then schedule the job17:13
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clarkbzaro: oh I think I know what you mean about aborted, yeah the way aborted works is an exception is thrown so it is really hard to do proper cleanup and recovery after an abort if you want to capture infoos17:14
ArxCruzthe versions there of postgresql and haproxy is having conflicts17:14
ArxCruzhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/49532/17:14
ArxCruzif I change to latest version of postgresql and haproxy it works17:14
ArxCruzwhat's the right way to fix that? patch ?17:15
ArxCruzor is something that infra need to discuss17:15
clarkbArxCruz: yeah that is a known bug, I have reviews up to bump the versions of haproxy and postgresql modules https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/config+branch:master+topic:fix-concat,n,z17:15
clarkbbut I don't want those to go in when I don't have backup (I am currently the only core that isn't mostly AFK for the day I htink17:15
clarkbArxCruz: the big problem is that those modules updates come with changes to their APIs, what I really need to do is spin up some test machinse and make sure i don't break haproxy and postgres17:16
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ArxCruzclarkb: i will do it on my side, if everything works I will let you know17:17
clarkbArxCruz: that would be great, thanks17:17
ArxCruzsadly I can't share the machine with you :P17:17
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clarkbthats fine, extra input is always appreciated17:17
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zaroclarkb: aren't those the same issue?17:21
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clarkbzaro: no, Aborted jobs are an actual result state17:22
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clarkbjobs that die immediately end up in the failed state17:22
zaroclarkb: disconnect on job fails and not being about to get results back on abort?17:22
clarkbzaro: its important that the disconnect seems to cause the job failure17:23
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clarkbzaro: I think jenkins loses connectivity to the slave without noticing, then sometime in the future tries to run a job which fails because the slave is gone17:23
zaroclarkb: would you expect to get an event notifying you of the disconnect?17:25
clarkbzaro: I don't think that is necessary, jenkins should reconnect and not run any jobs on the slave until that happens17:25
clarkbinstead of immediately failing on jobs on that slave17:25
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zaroclarkb: ok.  i see.17:26
zaroclarkb: anything else?17:26
clarkbzaro: there are a log of global locks17:26
clarkbzaro: we don't use the xunit plugin anymore for many reasons but a big one is there appeared to be a global lock in xunit where only one job could finish at a time17:27
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mordredwhat did I do?17:33
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Enforce import grouping  https://review.openstack.org/5222117:33
clarkbmordred: did you do something? I am trying to remember if I mentioned you about something17:33
mordredI just assumed I'd been AFK for long enough that I probably broke something17:35
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clarkbmordred: is has been pretty quiet17:35
clarkbgoing to dive into reviews shortly17:36
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Enforce import grouping  https://review.openstack.org/5222117:38
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add SearchResultSet and Hit objects  https://review.openstack.org/5269817:45
mordredwoot17:46
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jog0http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/ hasn't updated in a few days17:51
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jog0clarkb jeblair ^17:51
jog0I think its down17:51
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jog0clarkb: you were right https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53699/ is working acc to zuul17:52
clarkbjog0: I will poke at that graph in a bit17:52
clarkbalso woot to having a ix17:52
jog0clarkb: thanks17:52
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fungiclarkb: i am back to semi-around for a few hours i think. trying to hit high-priority things from scrollback and e-mail first... any requests?17:58
clarkbfungi: not really, I am still trying to catch up myself :)17:59
clarkbthere is a lot of sb but it has mostly been dealt with. harlowja eneds me to review a change you have already reviewed17:59
fungiyup, saw that17:59
clarkbfungi: the e-r graph generation on static.o.o seems to have stopped working17:59
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fungioh, ew17:59
clarkbyou can poke at that17:59
clarkbor I can get to it in a bit :)17:59
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fungii'll have a look--not sure how it works, but that sounds like an excuse to find out18:00
jeblairfungi: cron runs a script that's installed by e-r and saves output to .json file statically served by apache18:01
clarkbfungi: it is a cron on static.o.o that should give yo ua good place to start18:01
fungigreat--thanks clarkb, jeblair. that's enough to get me looking in the right places18:01
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Allow taskflow-ptl tag create/push  https://review.openstack.org/5246218:19
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clarkbharlowja: I have approved that change, once it merges and puppet applies it I will need to add you to the new ptl group. If I don't mention doing that in the near future feel free to ping me and remind me18:19
harlowjaclarkb thanks a ton!18:19
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clarkbjeblair: did you do anything to nodepool recently? looking at the status graph there was a ton of purple then it all went away18:24
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clarkbfungi: any luck?18:24
annegentleclarkb: or fungi: I'm sure I'm being dense, but what is a git sha on a particular review.openstack.org URL? Can I search gerrit for a git sha?18:25
clarkbannegentle: you can search for a git sha, just put the sha in the search box and search on that18:25
clarkbyou can also search on change id the same way18:25
fungiclarkb: just starting to look--was wrapping up some review comments i was in the middle of from before18:25
annegentleclarkb: and if there are no results for https://review.openstack.org/#/q/7b6633c855c0392e860844ad3c93a540a4aa7420,n,z -- what does that mean?18:26
clarkbannegentle: it means that sha was never pushed to gerrit18:26
annegentleclarkb: the 7b663 is one ttx sent me18:26
annegentleclarkb: is it a git sha of a commit from the special user that does all the pushes?18:26
clarkbannegentle: I don't know what that sha is from18:26
clarkbannegentle: is there more context?18:27
fungilike which repository?18:27
fungichances are it's a merge commit or something18:27
annegentleclarkb: yeah me neither and reverse engineering isn't giving it to me... so I sent this URL to ttx: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51475/ and he wants me to verify the git sha for that review patch18:27
annegentlefungi: that particular one is for openstack/api-site18:27
annegentlefungi: define merge commit? like a patch on a patch (patch 1, patch 2, patch 3, the 3rd one is the "winner")?18:28
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clarkbannegentle: fungi is correct it is a merge commit18:29
annegentlealso how do I get the git sha of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51920/? All of this is for tagging 2013.2 on the repos state around 10/1718:29
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fungiannegentle: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/api-site/commit/?id=7b6633c855c0392e860844ad3c93a540a4aa742018:29
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fungiannegentle: the sha on 51920 is printed next to where it says "patch set 1" in the gerrit webui18:30
annegentlefungi: ok, 7b6633 is the merge, thanks. You found it by searchign git.openstack.org?18:30
clarkbannegentle: I find it slightly easier to clone the repo then use git show18:30
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clarkbbut I spend too much time in a terminal18:31
annegentleohhhh I'm thinking of this oppositely -- patch 1, patch 2, patch 3, in fact patch 1's sha is the merge commit?18:31
fungiannegentle: yep, or rather to show you how to find it. you could also use git show 7b6633c855c0392e860844ad3c93a540a4aa742018:31
annegentleclarkb: heh18:31
clarkbannegentle: no patch 1's sha is different than the merge commit because the merge commit happens after review18:31
clarkbannegentle: if you look further back in your git log there will be an entry with a sha matching patch 1's sha18:31
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fungiannegentle: basically, because your patch wasn't built on top of the exact state of that repository's branch tip when it got applied, a merge commit was necessary to tie the branch tip and your change together18:32
lifelesssdake: do you want to pull that into the qa track? We can if you like18:33
lifelessbah18:33
lifelesssdague: ^18:33
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sdaguelifeless: no, I'm all full now :)18:37
sdaguebut it's at a good time, I can probably be there in tripleo18:37
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fungiclarkb: http://paste.openstack.org/show/49546/18:40
fungidigging into the revision history to find out which change is to blame18:41
clarkbfungi: oooh, I missed that18:41
clarkbfungi: my change is to blame18:41
fungiclarkb: first place to look when you have a broken cron job... /var/spool/mail ;)18:41
fungireminds me of a simpler time18:41
lifelesssdague: sweet18:42
lifelessspeaking of tripleo-cd18:42
lifelesspleia2: how goes it?18:42
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clarkbfungi: oh actually that may have been part of sdague's refactor18:43
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fungii'm starting to think so... reading through that patch now18:43
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annegentlefungi: ohhhh that explains so much18:44
clarkbfungi: I see the problem18:45
fungiannegentle: it helps when you remember that git is nonlinear, so every change is potentially an inflection point and its hash encodes the hashes of the changes from which it's built18:45
clarkbfungi: it should find build_uuid in _source but the attr is being renamed to @build_uuid18:46
fungiohhh... yep! you're right18:46
fungishall i patch or are you?18:46
clarkbfungi: well I am still scratching me head over it18:47
clarkbbecause at_attr and attr are treated differently18:47
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clarkbfungi: OOOOHHHHHH18:48
clarkbthe second if should be an elif18:48
clarkbfungi: you can push that patch18:48
fungiyeah, that's what it looked like to me. i'll submit18:48
clarkbya I think you grokked fully before I did :)18:49
fungii had longer to stare and scratch already18:49
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anteayasmarcet: when you are ready to submit a new patchset for 53644 be sure to use `git commit --amend` so you are amending the same patch18:50
fungiwas there a bug for this i need to mention in the commit message? i didn't see one on a cursory glance but may have missed it earlier18:50
clarkbfungi: I don't think there was, you can submit one if you like18:50
hub_capwow fungi w/o context that stare and scratch thing sounded kinda gross18:51
anteayasmarcet: don't create a new commit for this, it creates a whole new patch, which is contrary to our workflow18:51
smarcet@anteaya: roger that18:51
fungihub_cap: sorry, it probably was18:51
anteayasmarcet: not sure if you know that already or not18:51
clarkbfungi: I am confused at how the bot hasn't broken though18:51
fungiclarkb: didn't restart yet?18:51
clarkbfungi: that could be18:51
fungii haven't looked to see how long it's running18:51
anteayasmarcet: aces18:51
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clarkbfungi: actually I restarted it yesterday when I rebooted stuff18:51
clarkbfungi: it may not be using the result.py stuff fully18:52
fungiright, you did. twice in fact (once for the reboot, and then again to troubleshoot)18:52
anteayaclarkb: if you see vipul or SlickNik can you ask them to peek at -trove, please?18:53
fungior, no, that was another daemon on there18:53
fungibut definitely got rebooted18:53
clarkbanteaya: I haven't actually gone into the office today18:53
anteayaah would be hard to run into them then18:54
anteayanever mind18:54
clarkbfungi: yeah, I figure we ignore that until the bot has a problem :)18:54
anteayathey are sure to show up sometime18:54
clarkbanteaya: jesusaurus might be able to help if he is in the office18:54
anteayagreat18:54
jesusauruswhat im i helping with?18:54
* jesusaurus reads backscroll18:54
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anteayajesusaurus: can you ask vipul or SlickNik to join me in -trove18:55
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jesusaurusanteaya: sure, i'll let them know you're looking for them18:57
anteayagrand, thanks jesusaurus18:58
clarkbmordred: https://github.com/openstack/openstack seems to be working19:00
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Correct conditional branching in field search  https://review.openstack.org/5371319:01
fungiclarkb: i'll hand-patch ^ that in and make sure nothing else is being masked behind that error19:01
clarkbfungi: ok19:02
clarkblifeless: https://github.com/openstack/openstack may be of interest to you as well19:02
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mordredclarkb: NEAT!19:07
mordredlifeless: it may take a day or two for it to be fully good19:08
pleia2lifeless: it's going, was a bit under the weather yesterday, was catching up on things this morning, I might need a call once I have something to show19:08
clarkbmordred: yeah, I am really impressed with how well it seems to work (I saw a github notification subscribing me to the project and I had forgotten what it was, opened the link to a pleasant surprise)19:08
mordredlifeless: there was a lag between when I pushed it up and now19:08
mordredlifeless: so each of the projects will likely need to land another commit to get update19:08
mordredbut from then on, it should work19:08
openstackgerritTerry Howe proposed a change to openstack-infra/gitdm: add email terrylhowe  https://review.openstack.org/5371619:09
jog0lifeless: ping19:09
jog0'The other ways won't help folk that19:10
jog0'?19:10
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anteayajesusaurus: thank you19:11
harlowjaclarkb think https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/227,members just came online :)19:12
jesusaurusyou're welcome19:12
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clarkbharlowja: I just added you to the group. before you push any tags please read the docs, let me find them19:13
harlowjaah, thx :)19:14
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clarkbharlowja: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritJenkinsGit#Tagging_a_Release that is the relevant section, you want to sign your tags and only push specific tags to gerrit to avoid gerrit picking up a ton of tags accidentally19:14
clarkbharlowja: also, double check that the sha1 you have tagged is in gerrit/github19:15
harlowjak19:15
clarkbbad things happen fi you tag a commit that gerrit doesn't know about19:15
harlowja:)19:15
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harlowjai'll see how far i can get without getting in trouble19:15
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fungiand if you do push a bad tag, consider it water under the bridge. worse things happen when we go back and try to delete/replace previous tags19:17
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anteayamordred: so to recap, owncloud on one vm, trove on a separate vm?19:17
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anteayaand I have owncloud using trove now19:18
clarkbharlowja: note the stuff about milestone-proposed isn't necessary. depending on the project you may just tag tip of master19:18
harlowjasure sure19:18
fungianteaya: no need to install trove. it's a service we get from our cloud providers19:20
fungianteaya: instead we would create a trove database at the provider and then the provider tells us the hostname to connect owncloud into19:21
fungianteaya: but from our infra perspective, it's like someone else somewhere is running a mysql server for us and we don't need to take care of the details19:21
mordredanteaya: does it all make sense now?19:21
fungiwe *could* install trove if we really wanted to (and might be a fun exercise to do on a test system just to get familiar with it) but we won't need to run it for production use, we just connect to one run by hpcloud or rackspace19:23
anteayamordred: I think so, who will give us the trove endpoint, is that you vipul?19:25
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anteayafungi well hub_cap laboured through teaching me how to do that, I can do that for us if we want one19:25
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anteayaso basically owncloud is sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get -y install owncloud19:26
clarkbanteaya: we provision just like any other cloud service19:26
anteayaeverything else I do via the gui19:26
clarkbanteaya: using the troveclient of web UI19:26
clarkband the benefit to having someone else run it is that someone else gets to do the work :)19:26
anteayaI guess I can puppet apt-get update && apt-get install owncloud19:26
mordredanteaya: basically, for the infra install, fungi clark or I will create a db and put the info into heira19:27
anteayak19:27
mordredanteaya: we'll also want the /etc/owncloud/config.php to be puppeted19:27
anteayaclarkb: yay19:27
mordredwith parameters for db hostname, user and password19:27
anteayaoh okay, I will look at that file19:27
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mordredanteaya: isn't that the one you had to edit to get it to use your trove on the other machine?19:28
mordredlike, how did you configure your owncloud to use the mysql instance on your trove machine?19:28
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hub_capmordred: the easy way was to set owncloud to "not installed yet" mode19:29
hub_capand then it edits it for u, ala wordpress19:29
harlowjahmm, clarkb if u don't mind looking @ http://paste.openstack.org/show/49555/ unsure whats missing :-/19:29
hub_capso she can take the file as it exists now, and it will have the mysql creds etc19:29
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mordredawesome. so it should be clear how to substitute those creds with puppet template values19:30
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Correct conditional branching in field search  https://review.openstack.org/5371319:30
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anteayamordred: but all I did in that file is say "false" for installed19:30
anteayathen I went to the gui and input the trove creds19:30
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harlowjaah, clarkb i think i need to create 0.1 first in gerrit?19:31
clarkbharlowja: no, you tag locally then push the tag to gerrit19:31
harlowjahmmm19:31
harlowjawonder why "[remote rejected] 0.1 -> 0.1 (can not create new references)" happened19:31
clarkbharlowja: can you paste the full output of what you ran?19:32
harlowjaya, http://paste.openstack.org/show/49555/19:32
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clarkbharlowja: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/stackforge/taskflow,access didn't update19:33
clarkbmordred: ^ are you still on a call. If not can you look at that?19:33
harlowjaah, that would explain it :) thx clarkb19:33
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reedgeez, X crashed again19:35
reedwth19:35
clarkbharlowja: I will poke at it in a bit if mordred doesn't get to it first19:36
harlowjanp19:36
harlowjamuch appreciated19:36
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Review and create Puppet configuration for dev server blueprint sso-openid-provider  https://review.openstack.org/5364419:52
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clarkbfungi: you may be interested in harlowja's thing too, I am just about to switch into looking at that20:01
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fungiyeah, i was taking care of it next20:01
fungigot it20:01
openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Review and create Puppet configuration for dev server blueprint sso-openid-provider  https://review.openstack.org/5364420:02
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openstackgerritVijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Update python-troveclient version  https://review.openstack.org/5213720:08
openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Review and create Puppet configuration for dev server blueprint sso-openid-provider  https://review.openstack.org/5364420:09
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Review and create Puppet configuration for dev server blueprint sso-openid-provider  https://review.openstack.org/5364420:13
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fungiharlowja: try again--reran our project management routine and it seems to have applied your acl changes successfully this time20:17
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fungiclearly we still have a race of some sort in there20:18
harlowjafungi thx, will do after my IRC meeting :)20:18
clarkbfungi: I wonder if the group creation race wasn't fixed by doing a group listing20:19
clarkbfungi: if so that is annoying20:19
fungiclarkb: possible, or possible something else is racing too/instead20:19
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Review and create Puppet configuration for dev server blueprint sso-openid-provider  https://review.openstack.org/5364420:21
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clarkbfungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51406/2 is the bug regex still not quite right?20:23
clarkboh nevermind, we are restricting it to Fixes20:23
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fungiclarkb: yeah, that had been the original intent anyway (there should be one and preferably only one obvious way to do it)20:25
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add branch tarballs for tuskar projects  https://review.openstack.org/5140620:25
fungiso we went with the documented header patterns in the wiki20:25
fungihighlighting those and not other variants, it's hoped, will train people to use the preferred forms20:26
fungii didn't choose the preferred forms (no idea who did), merely encoded the particular recommendations expressed there20:27
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clarkbfungi: ?20:28
clarkbsorry I feel like I am missing some context20:28
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fungifixes vs closes20:28
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clarkboh20:28
clarkbfungi: re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41256/ I see now why my -1 was silly. If I +2 +A that will be be around to see it go in?20:29
fungii'll be here until about 22:30z20:31
clarkb2 hours? I am going to hit the go button20:31
fungiwfm20:31
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fungithanks!20:31
fungino idea how stale that might be. hopefully merges20:32
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Gate jeepyb and openstack/requirements on pbr  https://review.openstack.org/4125620:33
fungiit's really mordred's change (reverted once then reworked a bit on resubmission), so you can blame him if it's whack20:34
fungibut this is the long-time-a-comin change to start running not-at-all-devstack-stuff on nodepool nodes20:35
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fungiso if it works, we have a good reference implementation of overloading the devstack gate tooling to do other things20:37
clarkbya20:37
mordredfungi: neat!20:37
clarkbI figure reverting is easy if it goes really sidways20:37
fungihappened once before ;)20:37
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reedFirefox can't find the server at logs.openstack.org.20:53
reedweird20:53
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fungireed: your https-everywhere plugin is failing you again20:53
reedargh20:54
reedbut it worked a few hours ago20:54
fungiyou will single-handedly drive us to httpsify everything in infra ;)20:54
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reedfungi, I don't think it's firefox20:55
reedhost logs.openstack.org20:55
reed;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached20:55
reedit's something else on my network20:55
fungioh, fun20:55
clarkbdns resolution apparently20:55
reeddamn, I hate this stuff20:55
fungidig +trace logs.openstack.org20:56
fungishould give you a little better idea of where/why it's dying20:56
reedrotfl, it stops at localhost20:56
fungilocal dnscache daemon or something probably20:57
reedthe solution is a reboot, damn ubuntu like win9520:57
fungithat's about the harshest insult i can imagine20:57
* fungi had to support win95. ick20:58
clarkbreed: could also be dhcp doing unhappy things20:58
smarcet@fungi: re :https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53644/, i am not able to get a successful build from jenkins, i mean i got only 3 warnings , but nothing fancy20:58
smarcetWARNING: top-scope variable being used without an explicit namespace, all error were gone :S20:58
smarcetthat error is referring to a custom facter that i wrote for new redis module20:59
smarcetor better said warning, bc pp script ran fine on an ubuntu machine :|21:00
fungismarcet: clarkb: aren't you supposed to stick a bare :: in front to declare it's global?21:00
clarkbsmarcet: ::variable_name to use the top scope21:00
clarkbfungi: yup21:00
mgagnethis ^21:00
smarcet@fungi: ok will try that, tnx for tip21:01
mgagnein fact, where is redis_version coming from?21:01
clarkbmgagne: the rb file custom fact21:01
fungia lot of puppet-lint is to enforce things that may work some of the time under the right circumstances, but could break or break other things if the situation changes/have side effects21:01
mgagne$:: is should be then =)21:01
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smarcetok got it :)21:02
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: don't UNDO_REQUIREMENTS after we update from g-r  https://review.openstack.org/5373921:06
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sdagueclarkb ^^^ should be the general fix for the thing jog0 did earlier21:08
clarkblooking21:08
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sdaguethe devstack patch with the support is in the gate now21:09
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sdague53712,221:09
clarkbsdague: cool, looks like a simple fix21:09
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reedclarkb, can you make me an admin of pootle?21:13
clarkbreed: sure21:13
reedthanks21:13
openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Review and create Puppet configuration for dev server blueprint sso-openid-provider  https://review.openstack.org/5364421:13
reedand while you're at it, elevate also Toms's privileges please21:13
clarkbreed: there doesn't appear to be an account for Tom yet21:14
clarkbyou have superuser status now21:14
reeduhm, ok, thanks21:14
clarkbhe needs to login21:14
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danger_fosdague or russellb: Would you take a quick look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53424/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53419/ for me? I want to tidy up gitdm for havana and publish a results report21:26
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russellboh, i forgot, or didn't realize i could review gitdm changes21:28
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danger_forussellb:  I think the stats-core list was recently changed or updated so you might be new :-)21:30
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russellbdanger_fo: heh, yeah, i'm on it because i've been doing some review stats stuff (reviewstats repo)21:30
danger_foOh yeah!21:31
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danger_fowell, this is kind of icing on an aging cake (since I think stackalytics has already surpassed what gitdm could ever hope to do) but I wanted to at least keep it running for the time being21:31
danger_fooh hey, thanks reed for the assist :)21:35
reeddanger_fo, np... btw I'm a bit late on the email to the participants to the metrics panel21:36
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danger_foreed:  no worries - I figured we could work it out in the next week or so21:36
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sdaguedanger_fo: we need to set dansmith's change to red hat in there as well before running the numbers21:39
dansmithsdague: +1, thanks :)21:39
reedwhat's wrong with whitespaces in puppet files?21:39
clarkbreed: can you be more specific?21:40
reedlooking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53644/8/modules/redis/templates/redis.2.2.conf.erb for example21:40
danger_fodansmith:  do you want to submit that, or you want me to make that change for you?21:40
clarkbreed: trailing whitespace is typically a bad thing21:41
clarkbits superfluous and when sdague edits the file his editor removes them then you have merge conflicts :)21:41
dansmithdanger_fo: if you're willing, that'd be great21:41
sdaguedanger_fo: I'm actually working on it now21:41
reedclarkb, that's some serious nitpicking :) it's all sdague's fault then21:41
danger_fosdague:  ok cool21:41
sdaguedansmith: what's your redhat email again?21:42
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dansmithsdague: dansmith@redhat.com21:42
reedi'm happy as long as I can blame someone and point fingers :)21:42
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danger_fofwiw, there is a rather long tail of organization affiliations that need to be updated, but I don't want to presume too much so have erred on the side of not making all the changes21:42
reeddanger_fo, I can give you access to the list of people/affiliations as produced from the Members DB if you want to play with that21:43
reeddanger_fo, it's a giant json file21:43
danger_foreed:  that would be cool, if it's ok to mirror that information in the (public) gitdm config21:43
reedwith not 100% good data though21:43
danger_foreed:  nobody has 100% good data :-)21:44
reeddanger_fo, not yet, I still don't know the legal status of that file, that's why we should talk about it at Summit21:44
sdaguedanger_fo: yeh, but dansmith is in the top 10 contributors, so I thought that should be correct with dates21:44
danger_fook that sounds like a good approach.21:44
sdaguealso, amusingly, root@ubuntu commits apparently all go to vish :)21:44
danger_foyes definitely dansmith is not really the "long tail" sort :)21:44
danger_fohmm21:45
sdaguewhich I don't think is really an issue21:45
zaroclarkb: jenkins core fix coming that will reduce number of threads to keeps slaves connected to master. will get reduced by 75%21:45
clarkbzaro: wow, nice21:45
sdaguebecause we don't let them through in the cla, but historically it's funny21:45
clarkbzaro: is that part of the keeping connections alive problem? having too many threads leads to that?21:46
zaroclarkb: no.  it's just threads for running slaves and executors.21:47
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/gitdm: update dansmith employment history  https://review.openstack.org/5374421:47
zaroclarkb: actually i think it's already fixed.  i believe kosuke said it's fixed in 1.54x21:47
clarkbzaro: ok, we should probably upgrade then21:48
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clarkbwe are on 1.52521:48
dansmithsdague: thanks man21:48
sdaguenp21:48
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zaroclarkb: yeah, probably a good idea. but should make sure it's in latest.21:48
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zaroclarkb: cloudbees has multi master support.  but it's private :(21:49
sdagueoh, when did jog0 move to hp? danger_fo you have that in there?21:49
danger_fohmm21:49
danger_fonot sure21:50
sdagueI'm just looking at my list of the top changeset folks for any other obvious ones to catch21:50
sdaguehttp://paste.openstack.org/show/49574/21:50
sdaguehavana official programs, a week or two old21:50
clarkbzaro: we have multimaster support and its public :P21:50
sdagueclarkb: you know when jog0 started at HP?21:51
clarkbsdague: I don't know the exact day but it was mid to late summer21:51
clarkbaugust maybe21:51
sdagueoh, it's in there21:51
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sdaguejoe.gordon0@gmail.com HP21:51
sdaguejoe.gordon0@gmail.com Cloudscaling < 2013-05-2821:51
sdaguenot august :)21:51
sdaguetime flies21:51
clarkbwow was it that long ago21:51
clarkbsdague: indeed21:51
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sdagueanyone else pop out in - http://paste.openstack.org/show/49574/ that moved orgs this cycle?21:52
clarkbzaro: are you saying that when kohsuke fixes things he isn't doing so in the open and we need to double check that he actually pushed it to the public jenkins?21:52
danger_foI have to run an errand but will be back later & read scrollback. thanks for the info/feedback21:52
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clarkbsdague: not really, assuming fungi's foundation affiliation was captured at the end of grizzly21:53
sdagueyep21:53
fungi'twas21:54
sdagueyeh, I think probably close enough then21:54
clarkbwhat are the numbers and percentages in that paste?21:56
fungiis tripleo an incubated program or official now? i can't seem to remember21:56
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clarkbfungi: its an official program now iirc21:56
clarkbnot a project though21:56
fungiokay, cool. thanks21:56
clarkbthe incubated project is ironic21:56
fungiyeah, not a project, but a program21:56
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lifelesspleia2: ping?21:59
zaroclarkb: i'm saying that multi master support is a feature that is only available from cloudbees. it's not open sourced.  the thread fix is in the open sourced version.22:00
clarkbzaro: gotcha22:00
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sdagueclarkb: that was # of commits in my paste22:05
sdaguebut my repo list is a little old22:05
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Give haproxy stats socket admin level.  https://review.openstack.org/5374922:22
clarkbfungi: ^22:22
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clarkbhave fun22:31
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harlowjaalright fungi seems to have tagged correctly, now to see if something shows up on pypi :)23:25
harlowjawoot!23:26
clarkbhmm do we have the jobs in place?23:26
clarkbI should've asked earlier :)23:26
harlowjaya :)23:26
harlowjait worked, yippe23:26
clarkboh good23:26
harlowjavery cool23:26
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harlowjathx for your guys help23:27
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clarkbnp23:28
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Move link-logs to builders for mirror jobs  https://review.openstack.org/5216623:33
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openstackgerritDan Stangel proposed a change to openstack-infra/gitdm: Fix broken email mapping and add missing domains  https://review.openstack.org/5341923:40
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Rerun checks when an abandoned change is restored  https://review.openstack.org/5213323:42
clarkbmordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53354/1/jeepyb/cmd/manage_projects.py is the thing being fixed there the location and inclusion of a remote name in the commands?23:43
clarkbreading the manpage it looks like git push --tags $REMOTE is the documented way of running the command23:44
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harlowjawould u guys want zuul support in 'cgerrit'23:51
harlowjai am nearly done with it, but not sure if its useful :P23:51
harlowja*nearly done with adding working zuul into it23:51
harlowjafungi i think u might have thought it'd be nice23:55
clarkbharlowja: I am not a good person to provide feedback as I consume reviews/zuul/jenkins much more asynchronously23:55
harlowjahaha, np23:55
harlowjai was bored last night, so its not a lose :)23:56
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openstackgerritAdrian Otto proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Shortened the description, and addressed the ACL concerns.  https://review.openstack.org/5376223:59
openstackgerritAdrian Otto proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adding project Solum to StackForge  https://review.openstack.org/5315123:59

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