Wednesday, 2013-10-23

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clarkbfwiw the reason I didn't go down the hadoop path had to do with needing programmers, and how access would work, and I hear hadoop doesn't do so well on VMs but you probably know better00:00
clarkb(I wanted indexed logs that gave developers and API, not something that required building an API that could potentially be used to send spam or whatever)00:01
SergeyLukjanovclarkb, in some tests it works better on VMs due to the FS caching, RAM utilization and etc.00:01
clarkbin any case I am curious to see what you come up with.00:02
SergeyLukjanovclarkb, I'm agreed with ElasticSearch+Logstash+Kibana for such problem00:02
clarkbcool, I wasn't completely crazy then :)00:02
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SergeyLukjanovHadoop is for the bulk workloads, for example, you can build search index using it each day00:03
SergeyLukjanovI mean run huge job each day to process data for the prev. day00:04
clarkbRyan_Lane: how is it looking?00:04
clarkbSergeyLukjanov: ah00:04
clarkbSergeyLukjanov: rather than do it incrementally00:04
clarkbthat makes sense00:04
Ryan_Laneone sec00:04
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SergeyLukjanovclarkb, yeah, it's more offline tool than realtime00:04
SergeyLukjanovfor realtime stable and reliable processing Hadoop+Storm could be used but it's the really rocket sciency to make such system work good :)00:05
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SergeyLukjanovscience*00:05
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Ryan_Laneclarkb: well, it's fine, but I'm still having issues with the extension00:10
Ryan_Lanehas nothing to do with ES itself00:10
clarkbRyan_Lane: so you don't need me to help debug ES?00:11
Ryan_Lanenope00:11
clarkbcool. I am going to head home then00:11
Ryan_Lanethanks00:11
Ryan_Laneactually, I think I have it working. didn't follow the instructions properly before00:13
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mordredI cannot read that backscroll00:14
mordredassume that if you said something to me, you need to say it again00:14
Ryan_Lanecool. ES is working for mediawiki now, so we'll finally have a less-shitty search00:15
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clarkbmordred bugs. can you look at bugs assigned to you and update as appropriate?00:18
mordredclarkb: yes. but I will probably not do it this week00:18
anteayahi mordred00:18
anteayaI have nothing more important to say00:20
mordredhey anteaya00:20
mordredclarkb: why would ANYTHING try to download win32 eggs?00:25
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lifelessclarkb: yes, thanks01:04
fungiclarkb: if you're struggling with service timeouts on a bug with lots of bugtasks, ttx clued me in that you can work around it using the lp e-mail api https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface01:07
clarkbneat thanks01:08
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fungiapparently he runs into it remarkably often, since he touches just about every bug in the project at least once01:10
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/git-review: Preserve merges when doing a rebase  https://review.openstack.org/5040001:27
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/git-review: Ignore content of merge commits in reporting  https://review.openstack.org/5040101:30
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openstackgerritAndrew Karnani proposed a change to openstack-infra/git-review: Remove empty lines from git log output  https://review.openstack.org/5325902:03
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openstackgerritAndrew Karnani proposed a change to openstack-infra/git-review: Remove empty lines from git log output  https://review.openstack.org/5325902:52
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zaroclarkb: around?04:33
clarkbzaro: yes04:34
clarkbwhats up?04:34
zarosaw your question about bug 108281204:35
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1082812 in openstack-ci "Move rackspace/clouddocs-maven-plugin to openstack-dev/clouddocs-maven-plugin" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108281204:35
zaroi didn't noticed that it got resolved on rackspace end.04:35
zaroi'll have to ask divid to see if it is completely done.  i can't tell if all the files have gotten put onto public maven repo04:36
zarois he on irc?04:36
clarkbI don't think david is04:36
clarkbdwcramer is his nick when he is around04:36
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zarook. guess i'll try email.04:37
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zaroclarkb: i talked to some people at hp that are setting up the openstack infra today.04:39
zaroclarkb: told them that clarkb is the man and he only answers questions when on irc ;)04:41
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clarkbha04:46
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lifelessAFAICT https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48860/08:42
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lifelessjust needs +2's.08:42
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openstackgerritMayeul d'Avezac proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Correcting name of boost unit test  https://review.openstack.org/5329508:50
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lifelesspabelanger: going to fixup https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49904/ ?09:01
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openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: publishers: correct XML element for boosttest xunit  https://review.openstack.org/5329509:13
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jeblairttx: the nov 6 17:30 slot assigned to infra conflicts with the meet the tc conf session.  we have _at least_ 4 tc members interested in infra topics...09:23
jeblairttx: any way we can trade slots with a program with less tc-member interest?09:23
* ttx looks09:25
amotokihi, I notice most bug number in commit messages are not linked to LP bug. It seems only "bug: 1234567" format is linked. Is there any change?09:26
ttxjeblair: it's a bit tricky, could swap with QA but then Trove would miss a lot of QA content.09:27
ttxjeblair: is there a session in infra you could schedule there that would not appeal that much to those tc/infra members ?09:27
ttxjeblair: otherwise I guess we could stripe QA/Infra on that afternoon09:28
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ttxjeblair: if sdague is fine with it09:29
jeblairttx: i'll look at the schedule, but i think it's unlikely that i would want to schedule a session that neither monty nor i want to attend.09:31
jeblairi'm tempted to schedule 'preemtively integrate the universe' in that slot and just move the tc panel into the infra design session.  :)09:34
ttxheh09:34
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openstackgerritDavid Caro proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added config options to not overwrite jobs desc  https://review.openstack.org/5208009:50
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jeblairttx: if fungi or clarkb can miss the tc session, i think we can schedule the salt session then (which i'm not happy about, but i think that it can make progress without monty and i)09:57
ttxjeblair: i'm fine with swapping the last slot between infra and QA if you can get sdague to agree to it09:58
ttxjust let me know09:58
jeblairttx: ok.  i know sdague has the same concerns, but let's ask anyway:10:00
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jeblairsdague: if you have a qa session that you feel like you could easily not attend, let ttx and i know so we can swap it with the infra session that conflicts with the meet the tc session10:01
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jeblairsdague: otherwise, i believe i've found the infra session most likely to be successful without tc members for that slot, but i'm not _happy_ about it.10:01
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jeblairttx: is there a way to merge two proposals?10:06
ttxjeblair: at scheduling time yes10:06
jeblairttx: ah, ok10:07
openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add sphinxcontrib-docbookrestapi  https://review.openstack.org/5330610:09
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jeblairttx: does scheduling work with chrome?10:15
jeblairttx: when i drop, the page doesn't seem to change10:15
ttxjeblair: hmm10:19
ttxjeblair: let me try10:20
ttxjeblair: works for me10:20
ttxjeblair: you're supposed to drag the session box into the time slot10:21
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sdaguejeblair: so right now I've only got one session I think I can take a dodge on, which I've already sacrificed to the oslo session that monty proposed around ways to do oslo split up / testing better10:26
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* sdague really wants a summit schedule that has non overlapping days10:27
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jeblairsdague: ++10:28
jeblairsdague: ok, i'll go with plan a.  assuming i can get the dnd thing to work10:29
sdagueyeh, you have to drag kind of to the middle10:29
sdagueof the box, then it worked for me10:29
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sdaguejeblair: so what are you sticking in that slot, and what are you sticking in the end of day slot on tue?10:31
jeblairttx: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'id' of null 9:15710:32
jeblair(anonymous function)10:32
jeblairttx: that line is:       action('add', source.id, this.id);10:34
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ttxjeblair: weird, works for me10:34
ttxjeblair: you might love this: http://fnords.wordpress.com/2013/10/23/an-analysis-of-the-technical-committee-election/10:35
ttxjeblair: i can do the drag and dropping for you if you want10:35
jeblairttx: i'll try another computer first, thanks10:38
ttxjeblair: and now you can see how much I suck at web UI. Someone else needs to take over storyboard before its too late :)10:38
sdaguettx: that's pretty cool10:39
ttxsdague: that viz took me a few hours, i'll admit10:40
sdaguewhat tool did you use for it?10:41
ttxhttp://nvd3.org10:42
sdagueah cool10:42
ttxand gimp.10:42
ttxI shall probably make it a bit less manual labor intensive10:42
jeblairttx: nice!10:42
sdaguemy default is matplotlib for stuff like that10:42
ttxsdague: probably better than using nvd3.org "live preview" and screenshots10:43
sdagueheh10:43
ttxI was lazy but in the end spent more time doing it poorly than doing it correctly10:43
sdaguemaybe I'll take a whirl on it at some point10:43
sdague:)10:43
ttxsdague: got python conversion scripts to build the JS that nvd3.org would process10:44
ttxfrom the csv ballot10:44
ttxbut still had to cut the names and paste them in gimp in front of their respective lines :)10:44
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sdagueheh10:45
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sdaguejeblair: when you get done fighting with dnd - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53238/ would be really great to land, so we can enforce bash8 on devstack10:51
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hasharyou guys are crazy11:09
hasharbash8 ..11:09
hasharsdague: the link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/branch:stable/havana+topic:bash8_stable,n,z   yields now result for me11:11
hasharit is in the commit message of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/5323811:11
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sdaguehashar: yep, that's why I'm trying to land it :)11:15
rakhmerov1hello guys, any chances to get your attention to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51205 soon? :(11:15
hasharand filled https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1243660  to get bash8 made a standalone module in pypi :-]11:15
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1243660 in devstack "bash8 should be standalone and in pypi" [Undecided,New]11:15
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sdaguehashar: yeh, probably later on in icehouse, I'd like us to bake it a bit first11:16
sdaguemy intent is to spin it off, but I want to evolve it in tree for a bit to ensure it's useful11:16
hasharsdague: make sense.  Might end up writing an official bash style standard :D11:16
sdagueheh11:16
hasharso now you have a bug to make sure the spin off will happen one day :]11:17
sdagueyep11:17
sdagueI'll even assign it to me :)11:17
hasharI am wondering whether bash let us output the abstract syntax tree of a script11:18
hasharI guess it just execute statements one after the other and does not actually parse the source file11:18
sdaguehashar: no, you'd have to build your own parser for that11:18
sdagueyeh, exactly11:18
hasharyeah lex11:19
hasharhttps://github.com/georgepsarakis/quick-bash/blob/master/Tokenizer.py11:19
hashar:D11:19
sdaguehonestly, right now, this is pretty minimalist in solving issues we have with minimum of code11:19
hasharquick-bash: A language that transcompiles to BASH. The concept is to make code more readable and easier to remember.11:19
sdagueright, but that compiles to bash :)11:20
sdaguedoesn't parse bash11:20
hasharahhh11:20
hasharwell enough mumbling, didn't want to interrupt you too much11:20
hashar+ stomach crying11:20
hashar+++11:21
sdagueheh, no worries, it's morning coffee time :)11:21
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jog0clarkb: I added a comment to https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1172387 with a draft11:27
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1172387 in openstack-ci "document how to add logstash queries to bugs" [Medium,Triaged]11:27
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openstackgerritQiu Yu proposed a change to openstack-infra/pypi-mirror: Print help message and exit if no config file by default  https://review.openstack.org/5150111:44
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sdaguedhellmann: if you are good lifting your -1 from this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53156/ I'll push it through. 0.1.8 works now11:49
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jog0bug numbers in the commit message are not being turned into links anymore https://review.openstack.org/#/c/5225511:56
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sdaguejog0: yep, seems like it's not11:58
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mattymofungi, ping12:49
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mattymoAnyone from the Infra team here who can help me settle a few requests? I can submit them to openstack-infra, but I'd like to get some live discussion first so we can clarify details up front without spamming a major list12:53
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garyk1hi, anyone know why gerrit is not linking bugs?13:00
garyk1that is if i wrote on a commi message Closes-Bug: #ZZZ there is no link to ZZZ13:01
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fungiokay, i'm back to an internet for a moment--what's urgent?13:12
mattymofungi, I would like a few minutes of your time, but I can wait till later if it's better then13:14
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garyk1fungi: any idea why gerrit is not linking bugs?13:44
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fungigaryk1: jog0: yeah, i think that's actually my fault. the change to the hyperlinking regex seems to not match the intended patterns once gerrit was restarted last night with https://review.openstack.org/48108 i place13:48
fungilooking into it noww13:48
fungibut on flaky conference wifi so it will take a bit to suss out what's wrong by poking at review-dev's config13:49
sdaguefungi: oh, I know the issue in that regex13:51
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fungisdague: you da man13:53
fungiclue me up13:53
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Only push tags to gerrit  https://review.openstack.org/5335413:55
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: fix bug regex to allow for spaces after colon  https://review.openstack.org/5335513:56
sdaguegaryk1: you have a review that didn't link?13:57
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dhellmannsdague: I'm still not sure about that iso package requirements list. We can't just move to 0.1.8 because of a distro package for 0.1.4, right?13:59
sdaguedhellmann: actually - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53156/ this one13:59
sdaguewhich isn't mine14:00
dhellmannsdague: recent history with that package does not leave me feeling good about having the upper bound uncapped14:00
sdagueyeh, I hear you14:01
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dhellmannsdague: I guess if that's our policy, though...14:02
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dhellmannsdague: approved14:04
sdaguecool14:04
sdagueok, I'll abandon my other approaches14:05
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mattymofungi, can you help me out with creating some more OpenStack resources for Fuel? I would like to register a channel and ask about a couple more things14:06
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garyk1sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52630/14:22
sdagueyeh, so my fix will get those14:23
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: fix bug regex to allow for spaces after colon  https://review.openstack.org/5335514:25
sdaguefungi: updated14:25
fungisdague: thanks! i would have brown-bag updated it but currently in concurrent conversation overload14:25
sdagueheh14:26
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garyk1sdague: thanks!14:26
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silehtsdague, I works on the ceilometer tempest integration issues, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1243251 and I want to change this for gate only :  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53292/6/lib/ceilometer14:32
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1243251 in ceilometer "QueuePool ERROR in ceilometer-collector  log after successful tempest run" [High,New]14:32
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sdaguesileht: why for gate only?14:33
silehtsdague, this configuration fields come from oslo sqlalchemy session, so I cannot change the default in ceilometer14:34
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Fix irc message for multiple bugs found  https://review.openstack.org/5321014:34
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sdaguesileht: so that seems like a big problem14:34
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/requirements: Exclude iso8601 version 0.1.7  https://review.openstack.org/5315614:35
sdaguenon working defaults is definitely a problem14:35
silehtsdague, the defaults work in most case14:35
dhellmannsileht: why do the defaults work for the other projects, but not for ceilometer?14:35
silehtdhellmann, I'm not sure but I don't think other projects needs to do a lot of concurrent operation on the db backend14:36
silehtdhellmann, this problem seems only occur when the ceilometer collector take too much to write samples in db14:38
silehtdhellmann, I can't reproduce it locally with my devstack and tempest14:38
dhellmannsileht: if you can't reproduce the problem, how did you arrive at the new values in that changeset?14:39
silehtdhellmann, I have made the tests directly with gate14:39
silehtbefore: http://logs.openstack.org/68/52768/1/check/check-tempest-devstack-vm-full/76f83a4/logs/screen-ceilometer-collector.txt.gz?level=ERROR14:40
silehtwith the new value: http://logs.openstack.org/92/53292/6/check/check-tempest-devstack-vm-full/6edd4ad/logs/screen-ceilometer-collector.txt.gz?level=ERROR14:40
annegentlettx: around? Looking for someone who can tag a branch14:40
ttxannegentle: around.14:41
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dhellmannsileht: ok. I hoped for more than "it works now" though :-)14:42
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annegentlettx: looks like we need a git tag for the stats to start showing up for openstack-manuals14:46
annegentlettx: can you tag this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52526/14:47
annegentlettx: and I know you'll tell me if I'm off base here :)14:47
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sdaguesileht: so the gate isn't even a very loaded environment compared to a real env14:48
ttxannegentle: what would be the name of the tag ? 2013.2 ?14:48
silehtdhellmann, I have just raised the pool max connection because the collector complain about the current configuration14:48
annegentlettx: yes, 2013.2 sounds great14:49
silehtsdague, do you think this hide another bug ?14:49
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dhellmannsileht: it would be interesting to know what someone who has deployed this at some scale is doing with these configuration settings14:50
ttxannegentle: so that would be commit 2051958682b009bcf1b9f9012364962223eb98e514:50
annegentlettx: confirmed14:51
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ttxannegentle: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-manuals/log/?ofs=5014:53
sdaguesileht: I'm mostly concerned the defaults are artificially low14:53
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silehtsdague, this is the default sqlalchemy values (5-10), oslo don't change it14:54
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sdagueright, but that's clearly non sufficient for ceilometer14:55
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dhellmannwould raising the defaults in oslo have a negative impact on any other apps?14:56
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sdaguein a single compute node environment, with 4 simulataneous requests14:56
sdaguewhich is really not very much14:56
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sdaguedhellmann: that I don't know, but is there a reason it can't be set for ceilometer?14:56
dhellmannsdague: because the option controlling the default is in oslo, not ceilometer, right?14:57
sdaguedifferent apps clearly have different access patterns for the db, so it doesn't make sense to have that not settable at the app level14:57
dhellmannsdague: that makes sense, I'm just saying that's how the code works now :-)14:57
sdaguedhellmann: sure :)14:57
sdaguebut that's kinda crazy :)14:58
dhellmannthe way it is controlled at the app level is the config file, no?14:58
silehtdhellmann, sdague the low defaults permit to identify sqlalchemy threading problem (or pseudo-threading problem)14:58
sdaguedhellmann: right, but having it have to be overridden for every real deployment seems ... sub-optimal. I'd really like to see sane by default defaults14:58
ttxannegentle: looks good ?15:00
annegentlettx: looks great, should fix bug 124354915:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1243549 in stackalytics "Icehouse: documentation not counted" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124354915:00
dhellmannsdague: sure15:00
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: fix bug regex to allow for spaces after colon  https://review.openstack.org/5335515:01
annegentlettx: what did you find out about 2 sched.orgs? I was thinking after the meeting that sxsw interactive here in Austin uses sched alongside film and music and I think it's just one sched instance, and there's venues far apart enough to have to take buses. Do the sched.org folks have suggestions for separation?15:01
dhellmannsdague: so we need to move the option definition out of oslo's db code somehow? or have ceilometer override the default for those options before reading the config file, I guess.15:01
sdagueyeh15:01
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annegentlettx: more out of curiousity than anything15:01
sdagueso how about we do the following....15:01
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sdaguesileht: can you amend https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53292/6/lib/ceilometer with a comment linking to a bug number tracking the ability to change the defaults in ceilo15:02
sdague?15:02
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silehtsdague, sure15:02
dhellmannsdague, sileht : wfm15:02
sdaguethen we can land that, it will make the gate happier, and we can ensure that gets addressed by icehouse15:02
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markmcsdague, pattern for per-app defaults of config options in oslo code is to add a set_defaults() method15:02
dhellmannmarkmc: how well does that work if the option isn't defined?15:03
sdaguemarkmc: ok, cool, so we already have that ability?15:03
markmcdhellmann, huh?15:03
dhellmannmarkmc: because this option will only be defined if the sql driver is being used15:03
dhellmannso ceilometer might try to set the default for the sqlalchemy pool size when mongo is being used, for example15:03
dhellmannwhich shouldn't fail, but also doesn't make a lot of sense15:03
markmcdhellmann, well, we already have openstack.common.db.sqlalchemy.session.set_defaults()15:04
markmcdhellmann, no big deal to call that even if the driver isn't being used15:04
dhellmannmarkmc: ok, I guess if we import that to call it the options will be defined15:04
markmcdhellmann, apart from it requiring sqlalchemy be installed15:04
dhellmannyeah15:04
dhellmannceilometer can handle the import failure15:05
silehtdhellmann, if the sqlalchemy backend fail to init stevedore already handle that, no ?15:06
dhellmannsileht: ok, I didn't know we did that15:06
dhellmannoh, no, hang on15:07
dhellmannmisread that15:07
dhellmannmarkmc: does it matter whether set_defaults() is called after the config file is read?15:07
sdaguefungi: fixed that regex review again, think it's good to go now15:08
dhellmannsileht: I was assuming we had to call set_defaults() before reading the config file, so the config settings could override those defaults15:08
markmcdhellmann, just needs to be called before the option is referenced15:08
dhellmannmarkmc: ah, ok15:08
dhellmannthat makes it much simpler15:08
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dhellmannsileht:we can put the call to set_defaults in the ceilometer driver, so the call is invoked before the option is used15:08
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silehtdhellmann, yes15:09
dhellmannsileht: we -> you :-)15:09
markmcdhellmann, note, the wrong value will get cached if its referenced before the default is set15:09
sileht:)15:09
dhellmannmarkmc: ok, I think we can work around that15:09
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fungisdague: thanks! an alternative would have been to change the wiki to suggest the more natural wording, but i also think shifting sands there will only serve to encourage confusion over syntax and behavior15:10
silehtdhellmann, markmc sdague thanks ! I will propose this soon15:10
dhellmannsileht: thanks!15:10
sdaguesileht: thanks much15:10
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anteayamattymo: fungi is at a conference, and will be at full steam again on Friday15:11
anteayait is possible you could post your questions and when others are available they can do their best to respond15:12
anteayaor you could wait, your call15:12
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mattymoanteaya, maybe you can comment a bit, or like you said, I can wait for a response15:17
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anteayawell this is what I understand you are after so far: fungi, can you help me out with creating some more OpenStack resources for Fuel? I would like to register a channel and ask about a couple more things15:17
anteayaso registering a channel15:17
anteayacreate the channel and become ops15:17
mattymoI would like to register #openstack-fuel as a channel with gerrit notifications to our stackforge Gerrit repositories, related jenkins jobs, and enabling logging for this channel15:17
mattymoit already exists15:18
anteayathen give ops to jeblair15:18
anteayawonderful15:18
fungimattymo: i may have missed some in scrollback, but can you briefly describe what you're trying to do and what documentation you're following?15:18
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ArxCruzALL: nodepool doesn't seems to work fine on Fedora 19 right ?15:18
fungigah, lag15:18
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mattymofungi, I can't locate necessary documentation about this process15:18
mattymoI just know you helped Dmitry Pyzhov in the past create our gerrit repositories15:18
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mattymoI'm afraid registering this channel officially is not going to be possible since people joined it a long long time ago and I don't think it can be simply emptied unless a real IRCop could step in15:20
fungii'm unsure, honestly, whether infra registers channels which are not being used officially as a project resource (fuel's still on stackforge right?)15:20
mattymowe are on stackforge yes15:21
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add a missing space from irc messages  https://review.openstack.org/5338415:21
mattymobut I'm more interested in irc logging service and gerrit bot15:21
fungiahh, i can show you where those get configured15:21
fungijust a sec, i'll get you links15:21
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mattymoalerting for jenkins and gerrit would be outstanding if they were in channel15:22
anteayamattymo: here is a patch for adding the logging for the -ironic channel: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53247/215:22
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mattymothen the second part is I was wondering if we could register Fuel as a topic on openstack general and openstack-dev15:23
fungimattymo: so there is a brief walkthrough in the stackforge howto focused on gerritbot: http://ci.openstack.org/stackforge.html#configure-stackforge-project-to-use-gerritbot15:24
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mattymofungi, in which gerrit repo is this file? modules/gerritbot/files/gerritbot_channel_config.yaml15:25
fungimattymo: openstack-infra/config15:27
anteayamattymo: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/gerritbot/files/gerritbot_channel_config.yaml15:28
fungimattymo: also you'll want to edit modules/openstack_project/manifests/eavesdrop.pp if you desire logging for your channel on eavesdrop.openstack.org15:28
portantemordred: is there a way to query gerrit were I can filter out reviews that I have already +2'd?15:28
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mattymofungi, that's very helpful. I'm sorry to take up your time15:32
fungimattymo: no trouble at all--sorry i wasn't very attentive earlier, but i'm always glad to help if i can15:34
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewday: Adds tripleO related projects.  https://review.openstack.org/5338515:34
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mattymofungi, and about Fuel topic in openstack/openstack-dev?15:35
fungimattymo: you might check with reed on that next time he's around15:36
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fungithere may be some resistance to logging stackforge channels on eavesdrop.openstack.org or having stackforge-project-specific subject tags for the openstack-dev mailing list15:37
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fungii'm unsure if we have a good precedent for having done that in the past, so it might need some discussing15:37
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anteayasdague: I commented, the commit message mentions "Fixes-Bug" which I am not seeing in the code15:39
anteayasorry that is 5335515:40
anteayattx summit session question: I got an email stated my submitted session is preapproved and the message "You can edit your proposal at: http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/edit/128"15:41
mattymofungi, I'm completely open to discussion15:41
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anteayawhen I am signed into launchpad and click the link I am forbidden15:41
anteayais this expected behaviour?15:41
mattymoand my time here has run out, so I will revisit this tomorrow15:41
anteayanote, I am not looking to edit, I just wanted to see what happened when I clicked the link15:43
dacharyHi, I would like to implement third party integration tests ( as explained in http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html ) for the benefit of the new puppet-ceph module. I thought about using an openstack tenant to do so ( as described in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Puppet-openstack/ceph-blueprint#Integration_tests ). I'm curious to know if small scale projects implemented something similar ( I know large scale projects have that but15:43
dacharyit's probably too much for just one puppet module ;-)15:43
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anteayahi dachary, I wonder if dprince would be a good person to talk to15:45
fungidachary: it might be worthwhile to see what bodepd_ and mgagne think as well15:45
anteayahe is the creator of the smoketest suite15:45
fungier, i am confusing mgagne with someone else just now i think15:46
mgagnefungi: hi15:46
dacharyfungi: bodepd_ like the idea, mgagne does not seem to oppose and did not propose an alternate solution.15:46
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dacharyfungi: I think mgagne is aware of https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Puppet-openstack/ceph-blueprint#Integration_tests so you're not that confused ;-)15:47
fungimgagne: do you work on the openstack-puppet project umbrella?15:47
fungiahh, great. i wasn't confusing him with someone else. even better ;)15:47
mgagnefungi: yes with bodepd_15:47
mgagnedachary, fungi: I don't have an opinion as I don't know the extend of support we can get from openstack-infra regarding the infra itself.15:47
dacharymgagne: I think fungi was suggesting more an opinion on how to go about integration testing15:48
fungii just wasn't sure to what extent the test infrastructure you had been hashing out for the other puppet modules might or might not already be similar15:48
hub_caphey is gating on py33 as simple as adding py33 in the tox.ini envlist?15:48
mgagnefungi: we use jenkins slaves to run rspec tests (unit tests) only, not integration tests where we would spawn services and such. this would require root access.15:49
fungihub_cap: and then adding jobs for it in zuul's layout.yaml (assuming you already have the python-jobs group for the project in jjb config)15:49
hub_capits for troveclient fungi, im sure we do (just not the 33 gating yet)15:49
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hub_capcool thx fungi15:50
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dprincedachary: SmokeStack uses upstream packages from master (currently running what will be Icehouse). So if you are interested making sure puppet-ceph works with the next release consider that. If you want to test that puppet-ceph works with the previous OS release then you could roll your own.15:51
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mgagnedachary, fungi: my understanding is that openstack infra is provided for openstack related projects. puppet-ceph isn't directly related to openstack and I don't feel comfortable requesting cloud resources to run integration tests for a project which isn't directly related to openstack itself and this could ultimately result in some form of abuse on the long term.15:52
mgagnedachary, fungi: if integration tests are running on a 3rd party infra, I wouldn't mind.15:53
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dacharymgagne: ok. I was not such much looking for a plateform. Rather a method to setup integration tests independantly.15:55
mgagnedachary: in that case, I don't mind.15:55
dachary I understand your concerns and 90% of the integration tests of puppet-ceph will indeed be about testing ceph deployment itself. Only 10% of it or less will be about integration testing ceph against openstack.15:56
mgagnedachary: documentation is sufficient regarding that aspect. we can ask dprince for details based on his experience with smokestack and grenade.15:56
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dacharyif we were to use smokestack as dprince suggests, it could be seen as an abuse of the openstack project resources.15:56
miqui@clarkb: noticed gearman does not get installed as part of the overall zuul install...15:57
dacharymgagne: which documentation ?15:57
miquiis this  a part is missing ?15:57
mgagnedachary: http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html15:57
fungimiqui: the gear library should be all zuul needs for its gearman support. it already has a built-in lightweight gearman server15:58
dacharymgagne: yes, indeed. What I'm looking for is something that I could use instead of writing the scripts described here : https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Puppet-openstack/ceph-blueprint#Integration_tests15:58
dacharyI'm happy to write code but not when it already exists somewhere ;-)15:59
dprincedachary: with SmokeStack I've typically focussed only on core OS projects. Puppet: outside of core is an exception though. But to really make it fit in SmokeStack someone would have to chase Ceph too because we'd need upstream packages for it as well.15:59
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: fix bug regex to allow for spaces after colon  https://review.openstack.org/5335515:59
sdagueanteaya: thanks for the comment catch, that has the updated commit message15:59
mgagnedachary: source for smokestack is here: https://github.com/dprince/smokestack15:59
miqui@fungi: not sure i understand your reply...16:00
mgagnedachary: my experience is limited to the knowledge of its existence and that dprince is the maintainer16:00
fungimiqui: possibly because i didn't understand your question16:00
ttxanteaya: bug in message. Preapproved sessions can't be edited by the proposer16:01
fungimiqui: zuul includes a built-in gearman server. what do you find missing?16:01
ttxanteaya: so it shouldn't propose you do it16:01
anteayasdague: +116:01
dacharymgagne: ok, cool16:01
anteayattx ah ha, okay thanks I am armed with correct information should I field any questions about it16:01
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miqui@fungi: a colleague and installed zuul via puppet scripts, while testing zuul , we saw an error message about gearman not being installed....16:10
dacharyis this the proper way to ask for a service key ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/124377616:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1243776 in openstack-ci "service key request for puppet-ceph" [Undecided,New]16:10
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fungimiqui: using the zuul puppet module we maintain at https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/zuul ? what was the error message, and where did you see it (puppet error? python exception? something else?)16:16
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fungidachary: that will work fine. i'll follow up with you in the bug to get your preferences/details16:18
dacharyfungi: cool :-)16:18
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miqui@fungi: none of those, my colleage tried the puppet install without mordred's latest pip install fix and zuul was just not even running corectly...16:21
miquicorrectly...16:21
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miquii think my mistake he also installed gearman job server pkg when it was not necesary....16:22
miquiwe'll give it another test..16:22
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fungimiqui: ahh, yes, so the "gear" module should normally get installed as a dependency of zuul, but as you note we have a bug in the puppet module which is failing to install python dependencies for zuul at the moment16:27
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fungiyou don't need to install a separate gearman job server since zuul has one integrated already16:28
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chmouelsdague: hey sean, about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48411/ do you have anything against it still?16:32
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clarkbmorning16:36
anteayamorning clarkb16:36
dacharyis it possible to use http://ci.openstack.org/zuul/ standalone ? Or is it dependant on the openstack-ci ?16:36
clarkbdachary: it is dependent on gerrit and gearman, but not openstack-ci16:36
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* dachary still trying to figure out tools to run a custom / lightweight way to integrate test https://launchpad.net/puppet-ceph 16:37
dacharyclarkb: ok cool :-)16:37
clarkbyou can point an externally hosted zuul at our gerrit server, I believe some folks are doing this16:38
clarkbdachary: http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html may be of interest16:38
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clarkbjog0: thank you for updating the bug, I figured the documentation could go in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/doc/source/logstash.rst with a blurb about e-r16:40
clarkbor we could host e-r docs separately16:41
clarkbjeblair: fungi mordred ^ any strong opinions on that?16:41
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fungii don't have a strong opinion on where it goes, but i gladly welcome any documentation effort16:44
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clarkbArxCruz: did you get a nodepool answer?16:45
ArxCruzclarkb: nope16:45
clarkbArxCruz: are you wondering if nodepool the daemon should run on fedora19 or if nodepool should be able to start fedora19 slaves?16:45
clarkbI think the answer to both is it should be able to handle either case, but we don't currently use it for either so things may be broken16:46
ArxCruzclarkb: yes, as you may know, I'm creating a infra based on openstack-infra, and it's running on power, so I need to run it in fedora16:46
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clarkbArxCruz: are you running into any particular problems?16:46
ArxCruzclarkb: a LOT! hehehehe16:47
ArxCruzright now I'm running nodepool on a x machine, connectiong to nova running on a power16:47
ArxCruzI'm able to connect to my node, instantiate an image (fedora) however, all the nodepool scripts are made to ubuntu16:47
ArxCruzlot of apt-get update16:47
ArxCruz:(16:47
ArxCruzand we don't have ubuntu on power16:48
clarkbArxCruz: you can provide your own nodepool scripts16:48
clarkbArxCruz: all of that is configuration16:48
ArxCruzclarkb: it's my next step, i will create other scripts based on openstack16:48
clarkbI think we would accept updates to our scripts to make them run on either ubuntu or fedora though16:49
ArxCruzif everything works, i will propose to add it on openstack-infra project, if someone would like to run on fedora :)16:49
clarkb(or maybe a second set of scripts, either way)16:49
clarkb++16:49
Shrewsfungi: turn around16:49
clarkbA wild Shrews appears16:49
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Elaborate on third-party service account requests  https://review.openstack.org/5340216:50
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clarkbjeblair: mordred: are you guys still mostly AFK for the rest of the week?16:58
jeblairclarkb, jog0: i think at least docs about how e-r is used in openstack and how to work with it should be in infra/config; if er-the-project wants to grow its own docs as well, we can link there from infra16:59
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jeblairclarkb: my availability is not reliable this week, yes.17:00
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Elaborate on third-party service account requests  https://review.openstack.org/5340217:00
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clarkbjeblair: ok I plan on approving things like ^ with a single +2 then :)17:01
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jeblairclarkb: wfm17:02
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Publish python-ironicclient tarballs.  https://review.openstack.org/5322217:03
clarkbpleia2: lifeless: typo fixed ^ sorry for the brain hurt17:04
pleia2thanks :)17:04
sdagueclarkb: while you are on single +2ing rip - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53238/ to enforce on devstack would be appreciated17:04
clarkbsdague: looking17:04
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clarkbapproved, I am happy to push through simple things like that if there are more I should be aware of17:05
sdaguethis one is also very simple - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53136/ and is needed for the wsme / pecan effort17:07
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: enable enforcing of bash8 in the devstack gate  https://review.openstack.org/5323817:07
jeblairttx: there seems to be 2 bubbles for each ranking (it looks like there are about 50 bubbles for about 25 candidates).  what am i missing?17:07
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anteayaclarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53355/ seems ready to go17:08
sdagueand this one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53355/ - fungi already has a +2 on, I was working the fix with him this morning17:08
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clarkbjeblair: do you have an opinion on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53136/1 ? not sure if we care too strongly about mixing stackforge things on the d-g nodes (I don't mind)17:10
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clarkb53355 approved, though it won't take effect until the next gerrit restart which I am wary of just doing17:12
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: fix bug regex to allow for spaces after colon  https://review.openstack.org/5335517:13
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jeblairclarkb: lgtm.  i'm not convinced we actually want to do that as opposed to consuming versioned artifacts like everything else...17:18
jeblairclarkb: but i expect we'll discuss it at the summit17:18
clarkbjeblair: the idea is to have jobs for wsme/pecan that test they don't break devstack17:18
clarkbstackforge projects leveraging existing infra to make sure they don't break downstream17:19
jeblairclarkb: and in the mean time, i actually want all of the git repos to be cached on the nodes, so this part is definitely ok17:19
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clarkbjeblair: ok17:19
jeblairclarkb: will they share the openstack gate queue, or is this just for wsme/pecan ?17:19
clarkbjeblair: it won't be mutual, just for wsme/pecan17:20
openstackgerritwill soula proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding support for the Build Result Trigger plugin  https://review.openstack.org/5212617:20
jeblairclarkb: ok, then i believe i support the entirety of this plan.  :)17:20
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jeblair(more than support, i think it's a cool idea)17:21
clarkbyup I think we are all excited for it, There was some discussion in the meeting yesterday about whether it needs to be mutual or not (sorry for bringing that up :) ) but we have decided to go with the initial plan where we let wsme/pecan work off to the side and see how it goes17:22
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jeblairclarkb: (i do think that the additional config should not go into devstack-gate; it should be an external script that hooks)17:23
clarkbjeblair: ok17:23
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: add pecan & wsme trees to node preparation  https://review.openstack.org/5313617:23
openstackgerritwill soula proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding support for the Build Result Trigger plugin  https://review.openstack.org/5212617:25
hub_capfungi: i might need a bit more hand holding for enabling py33 gating for troveclient17:27
clarkbhub_cap: I think fungi is AFK conferencing, but I am happy to help17:27
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hub_caphorray17:28
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hub_capwe just enabled a passsing py33 job on troveclient clarkb17:28
hub_caphow do i make it gating17:28
clarkbhub_cap: you mean the tox.ini change to troveclient?17:29
clarkbhub_cap: the next step is telling zuul to run the job in the zuul layout.yaml17:29
hub_capclarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53392/17:29
hub_capgate-python-troveclient-python33 SUCCESS in 5m 22s (non-voting) <-- i want to remove non-voting17:29
clarkbah17:29
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add a missing space from irc messages  https://review.openstack.org/5338417:29
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openstackgerritwill soula proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding support for the Build Result Trigger plugin  https://review.openstack.org/5212617:30
clarkbhub_cap: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml#n309 remove lines 309 and 310 since we are getting rid of the non voting special case17:30
hub_capclarkb: im not finding any good info on the layout.yaml, everything from zuul repo is tests/*17:30
hub_capohhh its in config17:31
hub_capduh17:31
clarkbhub_cap: and add the job to the gate pipeline https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml#n1998 there17:31
clarkbhub_cap: the change on line 1998 is necessary because the job currently only runs in the check pipeline17:31
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hub_capclarkb: ok let me do some whippin-up-of-config-changes17:35
openstackgerritMichael Basnight proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adding python33 gating  https://review.openstack.org/5340817:37
hub_capummm lemme fix my commit msg LOL17:38
openstackgerritMichael Basnight proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adding python33 gating for troveclient  https://review.openstack.org/5340817:38
hub_capclarkb: does this change require a restart of any sort?17:40
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clarkbhub_cap: no17:41
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hub_capclarkb: noice17:42
hub_capalso thx for the +2 approve17:42
hub_capso in a few min i should be able to do recheck no bug to all my open troveclient reviews and watch it destroy them? :)17:43
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Adding python33 gating for troveclient  https://review.openstack.org/5340817:43
clarkbhub_cap: yes, in about 10-15 minutes17:43
hub_capsweet17:43
hub_cap<3 clarkb17:43
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jerryzclarkb: morning.17:48
clarkbjerryz: morning17:48
jerryzi found that most of my jenkins logs are not in UTC time17:48
jerryzcausing elasticsearch to index them wrong17:49
clarkbin the date filter you can change the timezone17:49
jerryzonly screen-s-* logs are in UTC17:49
clarkbbut, typically doing everything in UTC is preferred to avoid confusion17:49
jerryzso i have to change the timezone on my devstack slaves?17:50
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clarkbyou don't have to, you could also set up different date filters for the different files, but it makes a lot of things easier when everything is UTC17:51
clarkbyou don't have to worry about daylight savings time, all time stamps are consistent (no ambiguity) and so on17:51
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jerryzclarkb: ok. thanks17:52
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fungiclarkb: fyi i expect i'll have some time to do a ninja restart of the gerrit service on review.o.o later tonight once i'm home so https://review.openstack.org/48108 will go into effect17:58
clarkbfungi: ok17:58
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markwashokay, revisiting the iso8601 issue. .18:01
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markwashthe amount of work we have to do to support 0.1.7 functionality in 0.1.4 makes me ill https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53186/7/glance/common/utils.py18:01
clarkb:(18:03
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markwashI'm tempted to just say "glance api behavior depends on which version of iso8601 you have installed"18:03
clarkbwow18:04
markwashwell apparently support for certain formats is just a "minor release" for iso8601 so yeah18:04
clarkbshould that feedback be pushed back to iso8601? my understanding is that they are making the parser more flexible which in general is a good thing?18:04
clarkbbut maybe they should have a backward compat flag or something18:05
markwashclarkb: yeah, I mean, that's the only way in which glance would change too, so maybe its not a huge deal?18:05
markwashit would just be more flexible in terms of the date field it accepts18:05
markwashdepending on which version you use18:05
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clarkboh so yeah, maybe it isn't so bad to make that dependent on iso860118:05
clarkbsdague: ^ I think you give good perspective on these sorts of problems18:06
clarkbalso lifeless^18:06
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fungiclarkb: er, i meant https://review.openstack.org/53355 earlier but i assume you knew what i meant18:09
clarkbfungi: I did :)18:09
hub_capclarkb: how comes the py33 takes forever? is it just waiting for a long period of time to get a avail node or does ti have to build py33 from source or what?18:10
clarkbhub_cap: looking18:11
hub_capmy py33 are taking ~5 min and the py27 are taking 45s... i assume its just a node availability issue?18:11
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clarkbhub_cap: https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/gate-python-troveclient-python33/80/console five minutes of installing dependencies18:12
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clarkbwe run a cache for C compiles I think, perhaps you have dependencies that are cold in that cache?18:12
hub_caplikely18:12
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hub_capwe have some old tests on the client that i have yet to remove that depend on some things like httplib and lxml, the latter of which requires some C goodness18:13
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clarkbhub_cap: yup we install ccache, I bet it is just cold, it should warm up over time18:14
hub_capcool18:14
hub_cap<318:14
hub_capill snuggle up close to it, maybe i can warm it faster ;)18:14
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anteayaclarkb: in case you care, I am going for a walk since you are kind of a one man band today18:17
anteayaback in about an hour18:18
clarkbhave fun18:18
anteayathx18:18
anteayasunshine!18:18
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clarkbsunshine? no no it is so foggy I can't see the space needle18:19
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sdaguemarkwash: how bad is 0.1.8 ?18:21
markwashsdague: 0.1.8 seems fine18:21
markwashsdague: what happened is they added support for several date formats for their date-time parsing18:22
anteayanoooo18:22
* anteaya sends some sunshine to clarkb 18:22
markwashso things that formerly were unacceptable (and that we happened to test for) are now acceptable18:22
markwashsdague: the real issue for users is that, if their cloud somehow switches from 0.1.8 back to 0.1.4, then some formats they used to use for changes-since will throw 400 errors18:23
markwashsdague: the issue for us is that to make it so that the new formats work regardless, we basically are reimplementing a significant chunk of 0.1.818:23
sdaguemarkwash: so would it make sense to push everyone forward to 0.1.8 instead?18:24
markwashsdague: from my perspective yes, but I respect the packaging issues that might say otherwise18:24
sdagueI think that might be a valid argument to make on the list18:24
sdaguewell, they could always complain, it would however be an icehouse level change, so they'd have 5 months to sort it18:24
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sdagueit seems like now is the time to make that call18:25
markwashsdague: yeah, I agree we're at a better time of the cycle to do stuff like this18:25
sdaguemarkwash: I'd say mailing list post on it18:26
sdaguelet people agree or disagree there18:26
markwashsdague: thanks, will do18:26
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clarkbsdague: I am looking at reporting the build slave back to logstash from jenkins and I think it will require an update to our event publisher plugin18:35
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sdagueok18:35
clarkbsdague: it doesn't send that data today, and I don't think there is an easy way to make it a build parameter (which would be automagically picked up)18:35
clarkbsdague: don't want you to think I forgot about it :)18:36
sdagueso do we need the build slave name to get the az?18:36
fungimy only concern is that, e.g., ubuntu only has 0.1.4 and some projects are going to throw a minor fit if, for the sake of requirements consistency, they're expected to falsely claim they lack support for the iso8601 in ubuntu18:36
clarkbsdague: pretty much as that is where we have encoded that data18:36
sdagueok18:36
sdaguefungi: well, we're talking 14.04 by the time icehouse is out anyway18:36
clarkbhmm the build slave is in the console log, maybe I can pull it out of that snale18:37
clarkb*sanely18:37
fungisure, i guess we're on the cusp of their lts transition, so zul will just have to make sure it comes with new enough iso8601 by then ;)18:37
clarkbbut really probably would be easiest to have the event publisher just publish the info18:38
* markwash respects the stuff you guys have to keep in your heads18:39
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clarkbsdague: fungi: swift is particular about those things, but doesn't appear to depend on iso8601 today18:39
fungiclarkb: oh, heh. good point18:39
notmyname?18:39
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sdaguefungi: and, honestly, it's about as early in icehouse as you could be, so if the call is made now, there is *tons* of time for teams to react to it18:40
zuli do what now?18:40
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funginotmyname: glance wants a newer minimum iso8601 dependency, but it doesn't impact swift(client) sounds like18:40
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fungisdague: yes, definitely18:41
sdagueit definitely feels weird to effectively be backporting iso8601 code into glance to support an older version18:41
notmynamefungi: oh ok. I don't know off the top of my head what that would mean for swift things, so I have no opinion right now18:41
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fungizul: you'll wrangle 12.04 to have what we want for icehouse18:41
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zulfungi: iso8601?18:42
clarkbfungi: actually, cloud archive won't do icehouse for precise18:42
clarkbaiui18:42
zulit wont18:42
fungizul: er, 14.0418:42
fungisorry :/18:42
zulfungi:  yeah ill be updating it18:42
fungiclarkb: yeah, my fingers like to type 12.04 on their own18:43
fungihabit18:43
sdagueheh18:43
clarkbI have a hard time typing anything similar to 'server' that isn't 'server'. My typing drivers are horrible18:43
sdagueman, I just realized the next LTS after trusty is going to be X18:44
sdaguethat's going to be some fun naming18:44
fungior easy. the available adjectives and animal names will be minimal18:46
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sdaguehttp://grammar.yourdictionary.com/parts-of-speech/adjectives/adjectives-that-start-with-x.html18:48
dimsmarkwash, has anyone suggested a min of 0.1.8 would be a problem for them so far?18:48
openstackgerritDan Stangel proposed a change to openstack-infra/gitdm: Fix broken email mapping and add missing domains  https://review.openstack.org/5341918:48
* jesusaurus hopes for xenophobic xylophage18:49
markwashdims: not that I know of, but there was some interest in preserving support for 0.1.4 for some reason. . I guess it's wide availability in distros at present?18:49
clarkbmarkwash: yeah, 0.1.4 is present everywhere right now I think18:49
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fungi0.1.5 only just happened last week (quickly followed by successors to fix the new bugs it brought)18:50
dimsfungi, right18:51
fungi0.1.5 release notes start out "Wow, it's alive! First update since 2007"18:52
sdagueheh18:53
dims:)18:53
fungikey update being they're trying to support py3k, so kudos to them18:53
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openstackgerritDan Stangel proposed a change to openstack-infra/gitdm: Close havana and add Icehouse release configuration  https://review.openstack.org/5342418:58
lifelessclarkb: ?18:59
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clarkblifeless: the stuff around iso8601 version 0.1.819:03
clarkblifeless: I think it mostly got sorted19:04
clarkbtl;dr is supporint versions 0.1.4 and 0.1.8 would mean slight differences in the timestamps glance would support in its API19:04
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clarkbquestion is "Is that acceptable or should we only support >=0.1.8"19:04
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lifelessclarkb: I don't think it's any worse that running a mixed-version openstack with an old glance and newer nova.19:05
lifelessclarkb: e.g. the way things stand in our code it's a terrible idea.19:06
lifelesswe don't test mixed versions in use at the moment19:06
lifelessit's highly likely someone will add a dependency on the new feature and then some poor schmuck will end up spending a week tracking down whats wrong19:07
clarkblifeless: so preferable to just require >=0.1.8?19:07
clarkb(this is what we are leaning towards)19:07
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lifelessclarkb: hels yeah.19:09
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sdaguelifeless: I'd say throw on the ML thread, that's probably the best place to voice it.19:21
lifelesssure thing; only mentioned here cause asked here :)19:21
sdagueno worries :)19:23
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openstackgerritArx Cruz proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adding nodepool compatibility with Fedora. This patch will check if the distro is Fedora, if so, it will execute yum to install package requirements, otherwise, it will run the default apt-get  https://review.openstack.org/5343219:38
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lifelessclarkb: huh - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53331/19:45
lifelessclarkb: is the bug syntax there correct?19:45
lifelessclarkb: why doesn't it hyperlink?19:45
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clarkbbug in bug regex next gerritvrestart will fix it19:46
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mtreinishsdague: where are your fancy colors and filtering?: http://logs.openstack.org/42/44942/8/check/check-tempest-devstack-vm-neutron-pg-isolated/f031b08/logs/tempest.txt.gz19:57
sdagueoh, tempest isn't white listed19:57
sdagueI can change that19:57
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: add tempest log to the list of level supporting logs  https://review.openstack.org/5343919:59
sdaguemtreinish: I found the devstack logs match in funny ways otherwise19:59
sdagueso it's explicit about what log files are supported19:59
ArxCruzclarkb: got the first patch in the path to nodepool support fedora :)20:00
pleia2seem to have picked up a bit of a cold, going to take a nap for a bit20:02
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pleia2(it's just allergies! 1PM and I'm still tied to a box of tissues and feeling sleepy, no good!)20:03
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anteayapleia2: feel better20:05
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openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add a neutron isolated job for tempest  https://review.openstack.org/5344220:09
mtreinishsdague: ^^^20:09
sdaguecool20:10
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clarkbpleia2: get better20:15
clarkbmtreinish: sdague: is there a good tl;dr on the neutron isolation stuff?20:16
clarkbArxCruz: I saw, I plan to take a look at it in a bit20:16
sdagueclarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53442/ could use your +2/+A powers20:16
ArxCruz:)20:16
sdagueclarkb: so under tenant isolation we create a new tenant for each test class20:16
sdaguewhich is needed for parallel, otherwise different test classes would be under the same tenant, and it would be impossible to have sane start states20:17
clarkbsdague: I see.20:17
sdagueand you'd end up possibly doing crazy things like having one test kill a different tests servers20:18
clarkbsdague: mtreinish: any reason for chosing the pg-isolated test over the mysql isolated test for tempest gating?20:18
sdagueif they are tenant isolated, the security protections in openstack should prevent that20:18
clarkbsdague: gotcha20:18
sdagueclarkb: only because the non isolated case is mysql20:18
sdagueso it gives us slightly better coverage20:18
clarkbok20:18
mtreinishclarkb: the issues is that with neutron we need networking to be created for each tenant too for anything created in the tenant to work20:18
sdaguethough we've actually never seen a pg vs. mysql issue in neutron20:19
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mtreinishclarkb: which is where all the growing pains are20:19
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add a neutron isolated job for tempest  https://review.openstack.org/5344220:21
openstackgerritYathiraj Udupi proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Added a requirement to COIN PULP LP Modeler module  https://review.openstack.org/5344620:21
clarkbArxCruz: reviewed, one small nit pick20:24
openstackgerritArx Cruz proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adding nodepool compatibility with Fedora.  https://review.openstack.org/5343220:27
ArxCruzclarkb: done :)20:29
clarkbArxCruz: it has my +2 :)20:29
ArxCruzclarkb: and you a beer when you came to Brazil ;D20:29
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clarkbI am wary of approving it right now simply because jeblair is mostly AFK and is the resident nodepool expert, but I don't imagine it will be problematic once there are other infra cores able to lend eyes20:30
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clarkbreed: bug 1243915 is relevant to you, not sure where you want to track that21:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1243915 in openstack-ci "Summit invites have no Date: or Message-ID:" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124391521:10
reedclarkb, what's wrong with that? :)21:10
clarkbreed: I have no clue21:10
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clarkbI am sure jeblair and fungi would know21:10
reedyeah...21:11
reedbtw, we should probably push the code I use up somewhere so others can fix it :)21:11
reedcurrently it's a simple script that ttx made21:11
openstackgerritMark Washenberger proposed a change to openstack/requirements: require iso8601>=0.1.8  https://review.openstack.org/5345521:12
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fungireed: clarkb: inability to sort messages in chronological order, identify duplicate messages and construct proper references for threading, off the top of my head ;)21:13
fungialso, lack of conformance to rfc821/822 and their successors, though i'm not in a position to quote from them at the moment to prove my case21:15
reedfungi, my client sorts by date that message21:15
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reedanyway, I think it needs to be fixed21:16
fungiyeah, the mta probably adds a guessed date header when it finds a missing one, but strict in what you send and loose in what you accept and all21:16
reedfungi, maybe that code should stay with the code that extracts the list of ATCs?21:16
clarkboh man, my favorite thing is when my parents send me mail and MUAs use that date and I get mail from the future21:16
reedclarkb, yeah, email clients suck21:17
fungireed: possibly. worth discussing at any rate (though right now we just have it crammed into openstack-infra/config)21:17
reedoh21:17
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reedfungi, where? in tools?21:18
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fungireed: tools/atc yeah21:21
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anteayaclarkb: aren't your parents in the future?21:31
clarkbthey are ~18 hours ahead of me yes21:31
anteayapoor email clients unable to deal with the date line21:32
clarkb(I think I did that math correctly)21:32
anteayasounds about right21:32
fungithose are some poor e-mail clients indeed if they can't deal with timezone calculations. i thought this was why we had computers in the first place21:35
mtreinishclarkb, fungi: what's the best way to handle submitting a patch reverting a revert?21:35
fungimtreinish: i would just git revert the revert change21:36
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fungimtreinish: but make sure to clear out any existing change-id header with a --amend21:36
mtreinishfungi: ok that's really what I was asking I guess is whether the original patch (the one that was reverted) change-id should be used21:37
fungimtreinish: you don't ever want to reuse a change-id on the same branch21:37
fungii think gerrit actually won't let you (should get a "change is closed" error on the push)21:38
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mtreinishfungi: yeah that's what happened when I tried to submit after cherry-picking the original on HEAD21:39
sdaguemtreinish: it's revert wars time now?21:40
sdague:)21:40
mtreinishsdague: well I figured it would be good to have the change pending for when the bug is fixed21:40
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zaroclarkb: does nodepool graph only count devstack slaves? or does it also count static slaves?21:51
clarkbzaro: just devstack slaves21:51
clarkbstatic slaves aren't managed by nodepool currently so don't show up in its numbers21:51
zaroclarkb: thanks.  also do you know the config of our jenkins slaves (# cpu  & memory?)21:52
clarkb8GB 4VCPU21:52
clarkbthat is true of most of the slaves (I think only the special publishing and proposal slaves are different, they are smaller)21:52
zaroclarkb: ohh how about the master?21:53
clarkbthe masters are 30GB 8VCPU21:53
clarkbzaro: gerrit is 30GB 8VCPU as well21:55
clarkbzaro: http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph_view.php?action=tree&tree_id=1&leaf_id=40 is a good place to find this info21:56
clarkb(the slaves aren't in there though)21:56
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mordredreed: ping22:02
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reedpong22:02
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ogelbukhmordred: hello22:04
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reedmordred, wazzup?22:08
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reedohhhh, the patch to create the openid-dev server is coming!22:14
fungimordred: are you in town now?22:14
reedso many people are still afraid of public review, need reassurance22:15
mordredreed: what?22:15
* reed goes into 'mommy mode'22:15
clarkbafraid? we don't bite22:15
mordredreed: they're afriad of ... the system that they run?22:15
reedanything 'new' is scary22:15
reedour system is magical, you can push things and nothing breaks... it's uncommon :)22:16
fungithey should put on their grown-up pants and deal with it22:16
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reedfungi, no, come on, be patient... it's really not that common to work with a customer this way22:17
reedusually with your customer you give him the code privately and 'safely'...22:18
fungireed: agreed. i left off the smiley ;)22:18
reedwith us they are going to be exposed to public comments from people they have never met22:18
reedI can relate with their feeling, it's hard22:19
reedand they need to learn about gerrit, git review, sign the CLA, etc etc22:19
reedoh, and our gerrit worflow22:20
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clarkbreed: we are happy to help if there are questions22:22
reedclarkb, I know, told them already :) I know I can count on the infra team22:22
anteayaI'm great with the whole getting started contributing thing22:22
anteayaif they need a name to ping offer mine22:23
anteayamordred did you see my email about owncloud?22:24
mordredanteaya: I did. it makes me a little sad22:24
anteayame too22:24
mordredanteaya: that's fine - we can just store on the filesystem22:24
anteayak22:24
anteayastill need trove with mysql?22:24
mordredyes22:26
anteayak22:26
mordredwe do not want to run any local mysql's anymore22:26
anteayaoh hub_cap22:26
anteayak22:26
anteayajoining you in -trove22:26
hub_capheyo22:26
clarkbare the IRC meetings done for today? I can push that meetbot channel listchange if so22:27
* clarkb does it22:27
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add Neutron and TripleO channels to eavesdrop.  https://review.openstack.org/5324322:30
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add Ironic to eavesdrop.  https://review.openstack.org/5324722:30
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hccHi... new to the project, just got my gerrit account setup (via launchpad login). Is there anyway to change the username in my profile?22:45
clarkbfungi: ^ that is a good question for you. hcc: I think the short answer is yes, but we prefer not to do it22:47
openstackgerritStefano Maffulli proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adds the script used to send summit invitations to ATC  https://review.openstack.org/5347222:47
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clarkbbut fungi has become a bit of an expert on gerrit username related things, so let us see what he has to say22:47
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hccclarkb, understood... my concern is that the my username in gerrit doesn't map to anything in my lp profile, and it could cause confusion22:48
reeduhm ... now that I pushed that script up, I realize that I need to mess up with .gitignore before I can use it from my folder22:49
reedcan I create a .gitignore per directory level?22:50
clarkbreed: no they live at a project or global level22:50
reeddamn22:50
clarkbyou can put relative paths in the project level ignore though22:50
clarkbI think22:50
clarkbwhich might allow you to approximate what you want22:51
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fungiclarkb: hcc: we can clear your username in gerrit if the current one is especially inconvenient22:54
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fungithough it's worth noting that it does require one of us to mangle the database slightly... http://ci.openstack.org/gerrit.html#resetting-a-username-in-gerrit22:55
fungiwhich is why we prefer not to under normal circumstances22:55
fungiafter all, you set it once in your global git config and never have to worry about it again22:56
hccfungi, is there an easy way to see if the username I'd like, hcc, is available?22:57
hccif not, I'll just stick with what's in there now22:58
openstackgerritStefano Maffulli proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adds the script used to send summit invitations to ATC  https://review.openstack.org/5347222:58
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lifelessclarkb: fungi: are you +2's on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48860/ ?23:13
clarkblifeless: I haven't had a chance to review it yet23:14
lifelessclarkb: it's entirely mechanical23:14
lifelessclarkb: code move23:14
clarkbok, I will take a look in a bit23:14
clarkbcurrently doing opsy stuff...23:14
clarkbout of curiousity why is that an antipattern?23:15
clarkbis it because importing pulls in stuff you don't expect?23:15
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jerryzfungi: i failed to add timestamps to my jenkins console.html even though i have timestamper plugin , the jenkins console output have those timestamps though23:19
jerryzfungi: do you have any idea23:19
clarkbjerryz: I think mgagne, ran into this problem. There is an option you have to toggle globally to make it apply to the console.html maybe?23:20
clarkbwe work around it by having an older version of the plugin, but I believe you just have to click a switch to make it work on the newer version23:20
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mgagnejerryz: you need an old version of the timestamp plugin. newer versions don't store timestamps directly in console output but in console notes23:21
clarkbmgagne: thanks23:22
mgagnejerryz: I didn't have luck in enabling old behaviour as suggested by changelog23:22
clarkbmgagne: we should probably fix that upstream23:22
jerryzmgagne: which version works?23:22
mgagnejerryz: see notes for 1.4: https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Timestamper23:22
mgagnejerryz: 1.3.2 I guess23:23
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jerryzclarkb mgagne: thanks!23:24
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openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add py33 and pypy jobs to python-savannaclient  https://review.openstack.org/5347723:34
NobodyCamclarkb: Thank you! :)23:36
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