Tuesday, 2016-03-01

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jgriffithmriedem: smcginnis so I've almost got a hack working to set some of those global config options (log warning levels)00:26
jgriffithmriedem: smcginnis I'll pick it back up a bit later.  Our config stuff needs a bit of an overhaul I think to make this work correctly.00:27
jgriffithmriedem: smcginnis it's kinda hacky the way it is right now... but it *almost* works :)00:27
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openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: LeftHand: Update replication to v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/28633600:51
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jgriffithbjornar: BTW, the end result might be something you're interested in as well01:03
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Wendy_Hi,all, if c-v is down, how to recover the failure quickly to regain control the volumes which are created by the c-v?01:20
jgriffithWendy_: depends on *why* it's down01:22
jgriffithWendy_: could be as easy as restarting the service... or if something's "broken" could be much more involved01:22
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Wendy_such as storage node disk broken, or control-plane networking failure01:24
jgriffithWendy_: well, those are very different cases :)01:24
Wendy_restart the service is of no effect01:25
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jgriffithWendy_: if you have a disk on your backend go bad, that's a pretty big deal if you're not using LVM mirrors, or another backend that provides some redundancy you're kind in a problem state01:26
jgriffithWendy_: in either case, you'd have to fix the "problem" first, whether it be networking or the backend storage01:27
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Wendy_jgriffith: I mean the failure on  the host of c-v service01:29
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jgriffithWendy_: *what* failure, you said "such as a bad disk or networking failure"01:30
Wendy_not the storage backend01:30
jgriffithI have no idea what problem you're trying to solve.  Sorry01:30
patrickeastsounds like maybe just the c-vol controller node is broken, and its controlling some remote storage array?01:31
patrickeastWendy_: what backend are you using?01:31
Wendy_ceph01:31
patrickeastand the failure is *not* on the ceph nodes, right?01:31
Wendy_patrickeast: Yes01:32
patrickeastWendy_: so like jgriffith said you need to fix the problem with the c-vol node and restart the service01:32
patrickeastWendy_: or depending on how your system was set up move the c-vol service to another controller or something that doesn't have a bad disk01:32
patrickeastWendy_: as long as the db is ok, copy the config files and its easy to migrate it01:32
Wendy_So the migrated service can regain operate the volumes?01:34
patrickeastWendy_: well.. depends on the state of you system, but yea, in theory another c-vol node configured the same way can just pick up where the other one left off and continue managing the remote storage backend01:35
lixiaoy1hemna: may I talk with you about sheepdog support in os-brick?01:35
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Wendy_patrickeast: If the external system detect the failure, the c-v service is still up because of the delay,  How can realize the failure quickly? So I can do the recovry immediately.01:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Trim 12s from disco unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/28565801:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Adding general notes about rolling upgrades  https://review.openstack.org/28519001:56
patrickeastWendy_: you would probably want to have your c-vol services deployed in an active-passive HA configuration with pacemaker or something similar01:58
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openstackgerritXinXiaohui proposed openstack/cinder: Update detach_volume() with versionedobjects  https://review.openstack.org/26860902:10
openstackgerritXinXiaohui proposed openstack/cinder: Update attach_volume() with versionedobjects  https://review.openstack.org/26860802:10
openstackgerritXinXiaohui proposed openstack/cinder: Update test cases related to attach_volume and detach_volume API  https://review.openstack.org/27161402:10
Wendy_patrickeast: OK, Thank you~ :)02:10
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bjornarjgriffith, ?02:20
bjornarjgriffith, the end result of what?02:21
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jgriffithbjornar: sorry... was away02:29
jgriffithbjornar: so look at the config setup in Nova02:29
jgriffithbjornar: things are broken out a bit more cleanly, not via config file per-say, but in the code02:29
jgriffithbjornar: so like https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/master/nova/conf02:30
bjornaryeah..02:32
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jgriffithbjornar: it makes it a bit easier to track things down and document them02:37
jgriffithbjornar: and it's kinda the thing I *think* you'd end up with if you actually broke apart the configs02:38
jgriffithbjornar: it's *part* of it anyway02:38
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bjornarabsolutely02:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Huawei: Consider bandwidth when selecting port  https://review.openstack.org/28299602:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: NetApp: Fix SSH Client File Creation in Unit Test  https://review.openstack.org/28573602:51
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openstackgerritVivek Dhayaal proposed openstack/cinder: Support ZeroMQ messaging in cinder multibackend  https://review.openstack.org/27711303:09
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openstackgerritXinXiaohui proposed openstack/cinder: Remove an useless and wrong call  https://review.openstack.org/27700903:12
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openstackgerritSurya Ghatty proposed openstack/cinder: Fix sshpool.remove code  https://review.openstack.org/28568703:20
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smcginnisjgriffith: SF CI may have issues. I've been trying to recheck this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262637/04:03
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jgriffithsmcginnis: sigh... looking04:36
jgriffithsmcginnis: I think the shade upgrade may be causing me some issues04:36
jgriffithI'll watch it while it kicks this time04:38
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jgriffithsmcginnis: I guess it's true what they say... "A watched Ansible Playbook never fails" :(04:41
smcginnisjgriffith: My CI has been a pain the last couple of weeks too.04:42
jgriffithsmcginnis: so I updated shade this afternoon and think it fixed a few things04:42
jgriffithsmcginnis: I don't know if you switched over or not04:42
smcginnisjgriffith: Nope, not using that.04:43
jgriffithsmcginnis: I was thinking of switching back off of it... but the old openstack modules are deprecated and appear to have some issues of their own :(04:43
jgriffithsmcginnis: oh... so then we've diverged beyond the point of being helpful to each other... good day sir04:43
jgriffith:)04:43
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smcginnis:)04:45
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smcginnisYeah, I think I split off from your first version from Duncan.04:45
smcginnisI'm still pure python. No ansible or anything.04:45
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jgriffithOhhh... I forgot about that04:45
jgriffith:)04:45
jgriffithnice!!!04:45
smcginnisEh, depends. ;)04:46
smcginnisReally with all these moving parts, I don't know if we can ever get to a stable and reliable CI setup.04:46
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bswartzsmcginnis: if we want stability we have to stop using this damn "openstack" thing04:51
smcginnisbswartz: Hah! I suppose so. :)04:52
bswartzI heard it was made by a bunch of crazy hackers04:52
smcginnisTruth04:52
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bswartzseriously though the only path to stability is to NOT test everything against master versions of everything else04:53
bswartzwe'd need to pin our keystone version, our rabbit version, our nova version, etc to something known good04:53
bswartzthe problem with that though is that it runs counter to the goals of the "integrated gate" which is to detect breakage as early as possible04:54
smcginnisbswartz: Yeah, I agree. Don't think that could work out well either though.04:54
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smcginnisIt certainly does that! :)04:54
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bswartzyeah the thing that makes the integrated gate good is the same thing that makes the integrated gate bad04:55
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smcginnisHah, no doubt. It's the best and worse thing.04:56
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smcginnisAs long as you don't have to run one yourself, it's probably just fine.04:57
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smcginnisI cringe every time I get a failure email.04:57
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openstackgerritMichael Price proposed openstack/cinder: Implement CHAP Authentication for E-Series Driver  https://review.openstack.org/24699005:01
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openstackgerritSheel Rana proposed openstack/cinder: Microversion of Bootable filter in cinder list  https://review.openstack.org/27860505:02
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openstackgerritSrushti Gadadare proposed openstack/cinder: Use is_int_like method from oslo_utils  https://review.openstack.org/28597305:04
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jgriffithsmcginnis: there ya have it:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262637/405:06
jgriffithgo figure05:06
openstackgerritBhagyashri Shewale proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Fix volume type 'is_public' flag updation  https://review.openstack.org/28638205:06
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openstackgerritWilson Liu proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei: Record and check LUN wwn  https://review.openstack.org/27159206:24
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openstackgerritWilson Liu proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei: Manage volume fails due to lower array version  https://review.openstack.org/28105006:26
openstackgerritWilson Liu proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei: Check the real size before extend volume  https://review.openstack.org/28344006:27
openstackgerritWilson Liu proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei: Mask chap password in log  https://review.openstack.org/27159506:29
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openstackgerritWilson Liu proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei: Check before delete host  https://review.openstack.org/28295006:31
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openstackgerritWilson Liu proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei: Check the real size before extend volume  https://review.openstack.org/28344006:40
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openstackgerritWilson Liu proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei: Check the real size before extend volume  https://review.openstack.org/28344006:44
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openstackgerritLisaLi proposed openstack/cinder: Fix exception during service update  https://review.openstack.org/28590806:50
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openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Add disabled param to srvc get_by_host_and_topic  https://review.openstack.org/28641507:07
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jgriffithdulek: update here:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286415/07:11
jgriffithdulek: thanks for catching that... we may need to look at the other places I changed it as well07:11
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jgriffithdulek: I'll have a look tomorrow and just updating all of them assuming that change is good and merges07:12
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openstackgerritPeter Wang proposed openstack/cinder: VNX: Update replication for v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/28513907:15
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AJaegersmcginnis, eharney: Yes, you need newer pip version, I think 7.10 is the oldest that works08:15
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openstackgerritRui Chen proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Fix Resource.__eq__ mismatch semantics of object equal  https://review.openstack.org/25102108:47
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openstackgerritBéla Vancsics proposed openstack/cinder: Use assert(Not)Equal/Less(Equal)/Greater(Equal)  https://review.openstack.org/28459709:26
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openstackgerritMatan Sabag proposed openstack/cinder: Changes in ScaleIO configurations options  https://review.openstack.org/28154110:05
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openstackgerritMatan Sabag proposed openstack/cinder: Changes in ScaleIO configurations options  https://review.openstack.org/28154110:16
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openstackgerritEvgeny Antyshev proposed openstack/cinder: Move test from test_glusterfs and test_quobyte to test_remotefs  https://review.openstack.org/26154910:21
openstackgerritEvgeny Antyshev proposed openstack/cinder: Use versionedobjects in remotefs.py  https://review.openstack.org/26155810:21
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openstackgerritTom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Fix invalid uuid warnings in backup unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/28611811:04
openstackgerritAccela Zhao proposed openstack/cinder: Inherit multiattach from volume source  https://review.openstack.org/27631211:06
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openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Add volume RPC API v2.0  https://review.openstack.org/28131711:10
openstackgerritAccela Zhao proposed openstack/cinder: Inherit multiattach from volume source  https://review.openstack.org/27631211:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: NetApp: Add Consistency Group support for E-Series  https://review.openstack.org/28238811:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Copy StandardLogging fixture from Nova  https://review.openstack.org/28617411:45
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bjornar__Yo, guys.11:48
bjornar__We spoke the other day about ha with cinder-volume and ceph/rbd, and about setting "host" to make sure multiple volume agents are able to do work on behalf of ceph11:49
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bjornar__The _big_ problem with this is row level locking in the database11:52
bjornar__since multiple agents will then do "heartbeat" updating of the same database row (based on hostname)11:53
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openstackgerritEvgeny Antyshev proposed openstack/cinder: vzstorage: add ploop volume format support  https://review.openstack.org/26224612:02
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openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Add ConsistencyGroupVolumeTypeMapping table  https://review.openstack.org/24585412:16
bjornar__jgriffith, yo, there?12:17
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dulekbjornar__: Hi!12:18
dulekbjornar__: We don't support such way of deploying cinder-volume.12:18
dulekbjornar__: I know that Fuel does that, but we consider it dangerous.12:18
dulekbjornar__: There's some work ongoing on that called cinder-volume A/A HA support.12:19
dulekbjornar__: You can find existing specs and code here: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/branch:master+topic:bp/cinder-volume-active-active-support12:20
bjornar__dulek, atleast this database problem is serious12:20
dulekbjornar__: In the design described of the blueprint we'll have each c-vol instance to report to a different record.12:21
bjornar__dulek, that will solve it, yes.12:21
openstackgerritjaveme proposed openstack/cinder: Use sizelimit from oslo.middleware  https://review.openstack.org/28217612:21
dulekbjornar__: So that will be solved. But I don't expect it to be done before late Newton.12:21
bjornar__dulek, that should perhaps be done anyway.. overriding "host" is a bad idea.. should be a combination "group" and "real hostname"12:21
bjornar__dulek, I will look at the branch, and see if we can use it.12:22
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dulekbjornar__: The spec for the part you're interested in is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232595/12:23
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bjornar__dulek, thanks12:23
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dulekscottda: Hi, by mistake I've added you to review 284597. You can ignore that. :)12:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Add os-brick rootwrap filter for privsep  https://review.openstack.org/28003012:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Storwize SVC multiple management IPs  https://review.openstack.org/28426712:42
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Add ability to failback for replication V2.1  https://review.openstack.org/28500712:44
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openstackgerritEvgeny Antyshev proposed openstack/cinder: vzstorage: fix creating and deleting snapshots of in-use volumes  https://review.openstack.org/27646513:23
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openstackgerritYuriy Nesenenko proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Deleting volume metadata keys with a single request  https://review.openstack.org/27920213:29
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sdaguescottda: you are working on microversions for cinder? Because I'm seeing 2 very odd things in tempest runs.13:29
sdaguefirst, the headers are being returned on /v1 requests13:29
sdaguesecondly, the header names don't match any of the existing conventions13:29
scottdasdague: We discussed the header names with the API some API working group folks (cdent) and were steered to OpenStack-Volume-microversion as the appropriate header13:31
sdaguescottda: I think you must have misunderstood13:32
sdaguebecause cdent is definitely not in favor of this header13:32
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scottdasdague: sorry that was Ed Leafe that advocated for this.13:33
sdaguescottda: ok, well it's definitely completely at odds with the current ways we're trying to standardize this13:33
scottdasdague: Yes, I brought up the fact that Nova, Manila already used a different format, which was my original implementation.13:34
sdaguescottda: right, so we've actually got a guideline we've basically agreed on up for review now - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243414/9/guidelines/microversion_specification.rst13:35
sdagueso that's probably #213:36
sdaguesorry, problem #213:36
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sdagueproblem #1 is these headers are coming back on /v1 endpoint13:36
scottdasdague: OK. And you think that will end up merging? I'll look at it an change...13:36
sdaguescottda: yes13:36
sdagueironic and nova are pro this approach, and will support it in the future13:37
sdaguemanilla seems on the fence, but this is much better and more generic model13:37
sdagueand doesn't get service names in the lhs, which is really problematic for things going forward13:37
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scottdasdague: Regarding the headers, the Cinder implementation sets a version for /v1 to 1.0. I could not send that back if it causes problems, I guess.13:38
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sdagueit's at odds with the other implementations that only did this on a specific endpoint13:38
sdaguebecause it seems to indicate to the user they can set that13:39
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sdagueand it's a change to existing APIs without doing versioning13:40
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sdaguewhich is generally bad form13:40
scottdasdague: OK, that makes sense. I'll look at changing that as well.13:40
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sdagueok, cool13:41
scottdasdague: This sounds doable, but just for the sake of prioritization it's not breaking anything today , that you know of?13:41
scottdasdague: I can get this in before we cut the release, just wanting to know for my day-to-day planning and how much to nag  reviewers.13:42
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sdaguescottda: it is not, I only noticed it because I was looking at request logs in boot from volume fails to figure out a different issue13:43
scottdasdague: OK, thanks.13:44
scottdasdague: And thanks for paying attention to this.13:44
sdagueyeh, no prob13:46
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openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Job Distribution to support HA A/A  https://review.openstack.org/23259513:49
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor sqlalchemy service methods  https://review.openstack.org/28659813:50
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Add service_nodes table and related methods  https://review.openstack.org/28659913:50
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Add ServiceNode Versioned Object  https://review.openstack.org/28660013:50
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Change Job Distribution for HA A-A  https://review.openstack.org/28660113:50
dulekgeguileo: Whoa! ;)13:51
geguileo:-)13:51
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smcginnisscottda: What distro are you running where you are getting the old pip version in your venv?13:55
scottdasmcginnis: I do not have this issue13:56
smcginnisscottda: Oh, I thought you and Eric were hitting it?13:57
scottdasmcginnis: I think my failures were different, and were fixed with a rebase.13:57
AJaegergood ;)13:57
smcginnisscottda: OK, good.13:58
AJaegermorning, smcginnis13:58
smcginnisAJaeger: Morning!13:58
smcginnisAJaeger: Guess we'll have to wait for eharney.13:58
smcginnisAJaeger: Hopefully this is a false alarm.13:58
smcginnisAJaeger: I was not able to reproduce on my Ubuntu 14.04 desktop.13:59
AJaegersmcginnis: hope as well it's a false alarm13:59
smcginnisAJaeger: eharney works for Red Hat. Maybe there's something different on RH.13:59
smcginnisAJaeger: Though I don't know what that could be.13:59
AJaegerWe'll figure it out ;)13:59
smcginnisAJaeger: :)13:59
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tbarronAJaeger: smcginnis: we hit that issue on fedora2314:14
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smcginnistbarron: Was it as simple as deleting the .tox dir and just trying to run tox?14:14
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tbarronsmcginnis: no, we had to grab the python-virtualenv from rawhide (f24)14:15
smcginnistbarron: Oh, sorry. I mean for reproducing the problem.14:15
smcginnistbarron: So the issue is fedora23 comes with an older python-virtualenv?14:15
tbarronsmcginnis: didn't have to blow away .tox to hit the issue14:16
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AJaegerWe need a newer pip - older ones do not support constraints at all...14:17
smcginnisAJaeger: You have any fedora images around to try? ^^14:17
tbarronsmcginnis: apparently that is the issue.14:17
smcginnisAJaeger: tbarron the system wide pip was fine, right?14:17
smcginnistbarron: My understanding was the pip that got installed inside the virtual environment was an older one.14:17
tbarronsmcginnis: confirm when eharney joins, but I think that's right.14:18
smcginnisAJaeger: But if this is just a matter of making sure python-virtualenv is newer first, then I guess that's an answer.14:18
AJaegersmcginnis: agreed.14:18
AJaegerhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/264398/ contains information to update the developer environment14:18
* AJaeger will be back later14:19
smcginnisOh, that's exactly it then. Thanks AJaeger!14:19
openstackgerritMike Rooney proposed openstack/cinder: Implement CHAP Authentication for E-Series Driver  https://review.openstack.org/24699014:21
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e0nedulek: hi. are you around?14:24
duleke0ne: Hi!14:25
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e0nedulek: I need your help with setup pypy env14:25
duleke0ne: Sure, I'm not an expert, but I was able to setup it once.14:26
duleke0ne: What os are you using?14:26
e0nedulek: I can't install lxml or psycopg2 inside my pypy venv14:26
e0neubuntu 12.0414:26
e0neoops, 14.0414:26
duleke0ne: For me pypy from this PPA worked: https://launchpad.net/~pypy/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=trusty14:27
duleke0ne: I've just needed to install pypy and pypy-dev14:28
duleke0ne: I use 14.04 too.14:28
e0nedulek: thanks. I'll try again14:28
duleke0ne: If it will not work please share error log, maybe it will ring a bell for me.14:28
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e0nedulek: http://paste.openstack.org/show/488757/14:31
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duleke0ne: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/pypy-dev/2013-May/011398.html14:34
duleke0ne: But I haven't hit that in my case.14:34
duleke0ne: But wait, this is on cinder, not cinderclient, right?14:35
duleke0ne: I was only trying to run it on cinderclient.14:36
e0nedulek: oh! good catch, thanks!14:36
e0nedulek: it works for me with cinderclient :)14:37
duleke0ne: :)14:37
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e0nedulek: I'm too relaxed after the vacation14:40
e0neI have to be more attentive14:40
mriedemjgriffith: smcginnis: you guys merged that logging fixture too fast, i forgot to copy the unit tests :)14:41
mriedemdoing that now14:41
smcginnismriedem: Thanks!14:41
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Add 'conf' param for TextGuruMeditation autorun setup  https://review.openstack.org/28081514:42
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/cinder: Copy unit tests for StandardLogging fixture from Nova  https://review.openstack.org/28663514:46
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markus_zCould someone have a look at bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1550250 please? I'm not 100% sure that this is an issue in Nova, might be in Cinder.14:54
openstackLaunchpad bug 1550250 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "migrate in-use status volume, the volume's "delete_on_termination" flag lost" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to YaoZheng_ZTE (zheng-yao1)14:54
markus_zMy doubts are based on the CLI call "cinder migrate <volume>" before the issue is observed.14:55
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scottdamarkus_z: I'll have a look in a little while14:59
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markus_zscottda: thank you!15:02
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openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Remove API races on extend and volume_upload_image  https://review.openstack.org/21637815:05
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Remove API races from consistency groups  https://review.openstack.org/25942915:05
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Remove API races from migrate and retype  https://review.openstack.org/22144215:05
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Add ordering possibilities to conditional update  https://review.openstack.org/23193615:05
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openstackgerritTom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Trim 50s from huawei ISCSIDriver unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/28286115:26
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bswartztbarron: how could *any* unit test take 50 seconds?15:40
tbarronthe suite's execution time does15:41
tbarrontotal execution time15:41
bswartzoh so it's the sum of a bunch of slow tests15:41
tbarronyes, lemme check the title15:41
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Update replication to v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/27930715:41
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tbarronbswartz: i think it's ok15:42
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bswartztbarron: I was just curious how such slow unit tests ever happened15:43
tbarronbswartz: there are several tests with looping calls.15:43
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tbarronbswartz: the timeout function (external to the looping call itself) checks that elapsed time exceeds a timeout15:44
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tbarronwhich is long15:44
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: LeftHand: Update replication to v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/28633615:44
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tbarronusing ZeroIntervalLoopingCall or mocking time.time() to return zero isn't sufficient.15:44
tbarronbswartz: need to modk with side effect that makes 10s go by in a blink15:45
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smcginnisFYI - ceph job is non-voting until issues get resolved.15:52
smcginnisThat should hopefully eliminate some of the rechecks we've had to do lately.15:52
diablo_rojo1smcginnis: For things that only have the ceph job failing..are they good to go then? Or just waiting till it comes back as a voting job?15:53
smcginnisdiablo_rojo1: Should be good after a recheck now.15:54
diablo_rojo1smcginnis: Okay cool.15:54
smcginnisdiablo_rojo1: Unless the patch is actually touching the ceph code, it's likely unrelated.15:54
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openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Move replication volume manager warnings to info  https://review.openstack.org/28667215:55
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diablo_rojosmcginnis: One other question, should the drivers cheesecake implementations have release notes?15:55
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smcginnisdiablo_rojo: Good question.15:55
smcginnisdiablo_rojo: I was looking at cleaning up the release notes.15:56
smcginnisdiablo_rojo: I wasn't sure if I should remove the old v2 RNs and just require new ones for updated support.15:56
smcginnisdiablo_rojo: We probably should.15:56
diablo_rojosmcginnis: There is a sizeable difference between v2 and v2.1 so I think it would make sense15:56
diablo_rojosmcginnis: Just my two cents though.15:57
smcginnisdiablo_rojo: Yeah, I agree. Most of the others refer to managed or unmanaged too. That doesn't make sense anymore.15:57
diablo_rojosmcginnis: Is it okay if I -1 for those that then?15:57
diablo_rojosmcginnis:  Lol, -1 for those then?15:58
smcginnisdiablo_rojo: Yeah, that makes sense.15:58
diablo_rojosmcginnis: Cool.15:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-cinderclient: Update minimum tox version to 1.8  https://review.openstack.org/24143416:09
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openstackgerritAdriano Freires Rosso proposed openstack/cinder: WIP: HNAS drivers refactoring  https://review.openstack.org/28546916:17
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Update replication to v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/27930716:18
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: LeftHand: Update replication to v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/28633616:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: IBM Storwize with pool-aware-cinder-scheduler  https://review.openstack.org/28461416:38
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-brick: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/28399616:54
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e0nefernnest: hi. are you around?16:55
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e0nefernnest: I've got few questions about  XP Storage CI16:56
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openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Remove replication v2 calls  https://review.openstack.org/28671216:58
_alastor_If anyone has some time, I already have a core +2 and Jenkins +1 on this review, but need another reviewer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284967/17:00
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openstackgerritTom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC: Support Replication V2.1  https://review.openstack.org/28625617:01
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fernneste0ne, I'm here.17:04
e0nefernnest: I found in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/XP_Storage_CI that your CI is disabled17:05
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fernneste0ne, yes I was making some enhancements to allow mutliple concurrent runs at a time.17:05
e0nefernnest: is any chance to run it on my patch that modifies HPE XP driver?17:05
fernneste0ne, it ran over the weekend and then the infra broke.17:06
fernneste0ne, yes17:06
e0ne:(17:06
e0nefernnest: cool! how can I start it over https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271331/?17:06
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fernneste0ne, let me get w/ the guys who provide my infra and I'll get back to you.17:07
e0nefernnest: sure, thanks for the help17:07
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openstackgerritTom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC: Support Replication V2.1  https://review.openstack.org/28625617:07
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openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Add non API thread pool size configuration options  https://review.openstack.org/28143417:30
duleksmcginnis: When are you planning to cut M-3? After M-3 only bugfixes are allowed?17:30
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e0nedulek: you're right. only bugfixes will be allowed after m-e milestone17:39
e0nedulek: and only high and critical bugs after rc-117:39
Swansone0ne, bugfixes and replication 2.1 up to rc-1.17:40
duleke0ne, smcginnis: I wonder when do we want to merge RPC API version bump patches.17:41
duleke0ne, smcginnis: We've decided at the meeting, that we want to do that in Mitaka, but patches should go in just before the release.17:41
e0nedulek,  smcginnis: IMO, it wold be good to get it merged just before m-317:42
duleke0ne: Hm, any bugfix that touches RPC API would need also to bump 2.x version. It's not that bad, but compatibility code would live longer in that API.17:45
e0nedulek: oh. you're right17:45
duleke0ne: But having more time to test the bump patches on master would also be valuable.17:46
dulekJust for reference - these are: https://review.openstack.org/281307 ; https://review.openstack.org/281317 ; https://review.openstack.org/28307217:47
dulekNot too pretty ones - my only excuse is that Nova does it the same way.17:48
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apoorvadjungleboyj, smcginnis : I have answered your questions and updated the patch with suggestions. Could you please bless it when you get a chance? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261126/18:16
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smcginnisdulek: What if we merge that right before we do the RC-1 cut?18:20
smcginnisdulek: That should minimize the risk of bug fixes going in after that might impact it.18:21
openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Fixed logging for oslo versioned objects  https://review.openstack.org/26628918:21
duleksmcginnis: I'm okay with that.18:23
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duleksmcginnis: I would be a little calmer if someone besides me would sign up to test that changes before merging.18:24
duleksmcginnis: Too be 100% sure it won't break the world.18:24
duleksmcginnis: Maybe we can ask at the meeting tomorrow, I'll try to write some instructions on how exactly to test the changes to have them before the meeting.18:25
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thingeesmcginnis: hey with this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281541/9/releasenotes/notes/scaleio-remove-force-delete-config-48fae029e3622d6d.yaml is deprecations a valid section with reno?18:26
openstackgerritSheel Rana proposed openstack/cinder: Microversion of Bootable filter in cinder list  https://review.openstack.org/27860518:27
thingeesmcginnis: this seems like a no http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/usage.html18:27
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Job Distribution to support HA A/A  https://review.openstack.org/23259518:27
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dulekthingee: https://github.com/openstack/reno/blob/master/releasenotes/notes/add-deprecations-section-6b0f118fe190585c.yaml18:27
* dulek likes the irony of showing release note to prove fact about release notes. ;)18:27
thingeedulek: ah out of date docs then ;)18:27
thingeedulek, smcginnis: so that brings up another thing... deprecation != instant removal18:28
thingeeso should this be upgrade?18:28
dulekthingee: Ah, yes, you're right.18:28
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dulekthingee: I've moved some notes to "deprecations" section recently, but I've left notes on "removal of deprecated stuff" in "upgrades".18:29
thingeedulek: excellent, thanks for the help18:30
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dulekSo there is one more simple change I would like to get in before M-3. It would make removal of unused DB columns easier in N: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28073918:31
dulekIt had 2 +2s, but no +A, now lost it because of rebase.18:32
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openstackgerritPatrick East proposed openstack/cinder: Update Pure replication to cheesecake  https://review.openstack.org/27698118:33
dulekgeguileo, patrickeast: You were positive about it last time. It's not the end of the world if we don't merge it, but if you would have a moment ^. :)18:33
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geguileodulek: Oh, I remember that one18:34
geguileodulek: Now I'll have to rebase my patches and change my spec patch thanks to that one ;-P18:37
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dulekgeguileo: Sorry. :P18:39
geguileoXD18:39
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openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Job Distribution to support HA A/A  https://review.openstack.org/23259518:39
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openstackgerritScott DAngelo proposed openstack/cinder: Allow api_version_request.matches to accept a string  https://review.openstack.org/28529318:41
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack/cinder: Moved CORS middleware configuration into oslo-config-generator  https://review.openstack.org/28679519:39
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack/cinder: Moved CORS middleware configuration into oslo-config-generator  https://review.openstack.org/28679520:03
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openstackgerritScott DAngelo proposed openstack/cinder: http header value must be a string  https://review.openstack.org/28682120:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Copy unit tests for StandardLogging fixture from Nova  https://review.openstack.org/28663521:20
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openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: LeftHand: Update replication to v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/28633621:39
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vilobhmm11smcginnis : ping22:05
smcginnisvilobhmm11: Hey!22:06
vilobhmm11smcginnis : you have few min22:06
vilobhmm11hongbin and myself were reviewing one of the spec in magnum which invoves external lib22:07
vilobhmm11wanted to know your experience in general on dependence of external lib22:07
hongbinTaskFlow in particular22:07
vilobhmm11hongbin : you can add if i have missed something22:07
smcginnisvilobhmm11: Sure. Good question for others here too.22:07
smcginnisvilobhmm11, hongbin: So as far as my experience, we haven't really had any issues with dependencies on taskflow.22:08
smcginnisUsage there's been some (too much) debate, but having the dependency on that has been any different than other libs.22:09
smcginnisJosh has been very responsive to get issues addressed there too.22:09
smcginnisThe only thing I remember was there was excessive logging at one point.22:09
smcginnisIt was mentioned to him and I think later that day or the next he had fixed it.22:09
hongbinI see22:10
vilobhmm11ok22:10
hongbinsmcginnis: Useful information. thx :)22:10
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smcginnishongbin: No problem!22:10
vilobhmm11one of the meeting logs stated "future of taskflow" http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2015/cinder.2015-03-25-16.00.html so just wanted to check with you22:10
vilobhmm11smcginnis : ^^22:10
smcginnisvilobhmm11: So that's a slightly different question.22:10
vilobhmm11and thanks for the info22:10
smcginnisvilobhmm11: We had started using taskflow.22:10
smcginnisI think the original plan was to convert all of our workflows over to using it.22:11
smcginnisPretty much ony create volume was converted over.22:11
smcginnisI suppose that is one thing to be aware of - the learning curve.22:11
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smcginnisSo once that was done, it was realized it makes it a little more difficult to follow exactly what is going on.22:11
smcginnisMaking debugging a little more difficult.22:11
smcginnisNot impossible, but just another thing to try to grok when you're figuring things out.22:12
smcginnisThe library takes care of a lot of stuff.22:12
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smcginnisSOmetimes it's not obvious what to expect.22:12
smcginnisSo there was a lot of debate about whether we should proceed and convert other workflows over.22:12
smcginnisOr revert create volume back to get rid of taskflow.22:13
smcginnisBut we decided to keep it as is and not pursue either more conversion or removal.22:13
hongbinThen, at the very beginning, why Cinder decides to use TaskFlow?22:13
smcginnishongbin: It does handle a lot of things well.22:13
smcginnisSo ideally you only need to worry about the actions that need to be performed and less about the whole processing of the workflow to do those tasks.22:14
smcginnisBut I wasn't a part of that initial decision, so maybe someone else here that was can give a little more background.22:14
smcginnisDuncanT: You around yet?22:15
smcginnishongbin: I know there was some talk about it being able to persist things.22:16
smcginnishongbin: So for example, if it's in the middle of a workflow and the service or host gets restarted22:16
openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: EMC VMAX - Operations and timeout issues  https://review.openstack.org/27276022:16
hongbinYes, they persists thing so it can recover from crash22:16
smcginnisIt might be able to read back in what its state was on start up and just pick up where it left off.22:16
DuncanTsmcginnis: Kinda22:16
hongbinget it22:17
smcginnisDuncanT: hongbin and vilobhmm11 were asking about when we moved to Taskflow.22:17
smcginnisDuncanT: Do you have any background on that?22:17
openstackgerritPatrick East proposed openstack/cinder: Update Pure replication to cheesecake  https://review.openstack.org/27698122:17
smcginnisDuncanT: Original motivation for using it, etc.22:17
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DuncanTYeah, so we were the first users - we went with it because it looked like it would solve a bunch of our issues (accurately unwinding state, persistence, code complexity)22:18
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hongbinI see22:19
DuncanTThe author of taskflow did the create conversion, which was a pretty epic task since we were changing the way a bunch of it worked in the original code at the same time, so it was kind of changing the wheels on a moving bus22:19
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DuncanTWhile it definitely made some things easier, it made debugging and reasoning about the code much harder for most people22:19
DuncanTI think a big chunk of the problem is that taskflow can do *a lot* of things, and all we really needed was a linear stack of work22:20
DuncanTThat complexity bleeds over into the problem of debugging22:20
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hongbinDuncanT: get that. Thanks for sharing the experience :)22:21
vilobhmm11DuncanT, smcginnis : thanks for the details..much appreciated!22:21
DuncanTWhen several long term contributors couldn't see how to solve certain issues within the framework of taskflow (that problem was solved via taskflow enhancement in the end) we decided it was more cost than gain and put it on hold22:21
hongbinI see22:22
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DuncanTThere's been a suggestion of trying to do a linear-only task-flow-lite, and seeing where that goes in terms of solving our usability issues, and seeing if that can be fed back into taskflow proper22:23
smcginnishongbin, vilobhmm11: So I guess there's definite benefit, but you have to decide if it's worth the extra complexity.22:23
DuncanTsmcginnis: Definitely. I'd put it as 'if you need something more complex than linear task graphs, then it might well be ideal for what you want'22:24
hongbinget that22:24
vilobhmm11smcginnis, DuncanT : ok22:25
DuncanTI did some playing with the task persistence stuff, and against our code it hits the DB really hard, but that could be reduced significantly by re-structuring our tasks around persistence points rather than high logical groupings we have now22:25
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hongbinI see, there is also an performance overhead. Good to know22:27
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DuncanTNot an overhead as such, just that it builds persistence points around the tasks, so if you have many small tasks, you have many persistence points22:31
DuncanTIf you're using the persistence then I'd say you'd need to keep that in mind22:32
vilobhmm11ok22:33
DuncanTWe have several tasks that can trivially be redone far quicker than they can be serialised, so we'd benefit from restructuring that if we were going to use that persistence method22:34
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openstackgerritTom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC: Support Replication V2.1  https://review.openstack.org/28625622:55
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mc_nairanyone run into an issue where config opt is defined in cinder-api service but not cinder-vol service?23:17
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openstackgerritSebastian Jeuk proposed openstack/cinder: Fix spelling mistake in docstring  https://review.openstack.org/28688823:22
openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR use same LUN id for each export path  https://review.openstack.org/28688923:23
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openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: WIP os-brick refactor get_connector_properties  https://review.openstack.org/27594323:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Huawei: Code cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/28293823:37
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: LeftHand: Update replication to v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/28633623:40
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openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Update replication to v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/27930723:43
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openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Add disabled param to srvc get_by_host_and_topic  https://review.openstack.org/28641523:49
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openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX-Replacing deprecated API EMCGetTargetEndpoints  https://review.openstack.org/24432823:55
openstackgerritScott DAngelo proposed openstack/cinder: WIP support new HTTP microversion header  https://review.openstack.org/28690123:56
openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: EMC VMAX - Recreating SG when it has been deleted  https://review.openstack.org/27990023:57
mriedemdouble yikes http://logs.openstack.org/28/286828/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/1fd7c47/logs/screen-c-bak.txt.gz?level=TRACE23:58
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