18:02:42 <flwang1> #startmeeting zaqar 18:02:43 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Sep 12 18:02:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flwang1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:02:45 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:02:47 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'zaqar' 18:02:54 <flwang1> anybody around? 18:11:00 <vkmc> flwang1, o/ 18:11:07 <flwang1> vkmc: haha 18:11:26 <flwang1> i even think nobody will come to zaqar's meeting anymore 18:11:32 <flwang1> vkmc: how are you 18:11:32 <vkmc> yeah 18:11:50 <vkmc> we don't have enough quorum anymore 18:11:50 <vkmc> :( 18:12:00 <vkmc> I'm doing good, you? 18:12:47 <flwang1> i'm good and busy for my baby 18:13:24 <flwang1> vkmc: what do you mean 'quorum'? 18:13:44 <vkmc> aww, I saw something, you are daddy for second time? 18:13:54 <vkmc> flwang1, I mean, Zaqar contributors 18:14:12 <flwang1> vkmc: yep, i just got a baby girl :) 18:14:18 <vkmc> flwang1, awww, congratulations! 18:14:23 <flwang1> vkmc: thanks 18:14:45 <vkmc> flwang1, taking an action on the amount of contributors we have in Zaqar 18:14:46 <vkmc> I'm thinking 18:14:53 <vkmc> wouldn't it be wise to do a call for contributors? 18:14:55 <vkmc> in the maling list 18:15:08 <flwang1> vkmc: yep, that's bad 18:15:14 <vkmc> there are several projects using Zaqar 18:15:30 <flwang1> we lose eva-i and without any notification, do you know what happened? 18:15:42 <vkmc> not really :( 18:15:48 <flwang1> hmm... 18:15:52 <vkmc> probably she got a full time position working somewhere else 18:15:59 <vkmc> and she doesn't have time 18:16:05 <vkmc> to contribute to OpenStack 18:16:14 <flwang1> vkmc: could be, but at least she should send us a mail 18:16:23 <vkmc> maybe yes... 18:16:52 <flwang1> she just leave and without any notification, that's pitty 18:17:10 <flwang1> anyway 18:17:23 <flwang1> so you will be in barcelona right? 18:17:35 <vkmc> I will be in BCN yes 18:17:42 <flwang1> i think we won't plan too much things given our current team size 18:18:13 <flwang1> and one of our topic in the contributor meetup will be 'how to encourage more contributors' 18:18:50 <flwang1> we proposed 1 fishbowl and 2 workgroup sessions 18:18:56 <flwang1> and a half day meetup 18:19:06 <flwang1> but i haven't got confirmation 18:19:26 <vkmc> ok :) 18:19:36 <vkmc> it sounds good 18:19:45 <flwang1> so i just want to plan 2-3 tasks in ocata and will focus on improve some basic stuff 18:20:07 <vkmc> I already spoke about this with flaper87 18:20:24 <flwang1> vkmc: what did he say? 18:20:36 <vkmc> with this I mean... trying to get people to contribute to Zaqar 18:20:42 <vkmc> but people working full time in open source 18:20:46 <vkmc> that can dedicate to it 18:21:07 <vkmc> flwang1, he was going to check out with some people, I didn't get a response 18:21:43 <flwang1> vkmc: oh, i see 18:22:53 <vkmc> flwang1, I'm personally asking for people I know to help in Zaqar 18:23:02 <vkmc> that's the only thing I can do right now 18:23:11 <flwang1> vkmc: that's good, thank you 18:23:22 <vkmc> and regarding the summit... yeah, I think that having a meeting with hopefully new contributors 18:23:35 <vkmc> and working on debugging and features enhancement duties 18:23:41 <vkmc> would be good enough 18:23:44 <flwang1> vkmc: and i'm thinking to resolve it from another side 18:23:58 <vkmc> flwang1, is Catalyst using Zaqar on some front? 18:24:00 <flwang1> push the deployment again and again 18:24:07 <flwang1> vkmc: it's on the roadmap 18:24:33 <flwang1> we're replacing radosgw with swift, it's a big job 18:24:37 <vkmc> ouch 18:24:44 <vkmc> yeah I can imagine this 18:25:35 <flwang1> after that one, we will deploy octavia and then, if trove resolved his security issue, trove, otherwise zaqar i think 18:26:00 <flwang1> i tried my best to impact the roadmap 18:26:23 <flwang1> but the good news, there are some other companies are trying to deploy zaqar 18:26:30 <flwang1> and that what i said above 18:26:55 <flwang1> we need to push more deployments to get more usage and attention, then i think we will get more contributors 18:27:30 <flwang1> vkmc: i really really really need your review on this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348700/ 18:28:04 <vkmc> flwang1, we need more contributors in order to achieve plans we have of integration with other projects 18:28:12 <vkmc> otherwise this doesn't scale 18:28:13 <amrith> flwang1, not to interrupt your zaqar meeting but it has long been explained that there's no 'security issue' with trove. so I'd request that you please not perpetrate that incorrect notion. 18:29:17 <flwang1> amrith: aha, thanks for the reminder 18:29:21 <vkmc> flwang1, you have done a great job :) 18:30:21 <flwang1> vkmc: thanks, and i agree, we need to more contributor to make sure we can support the current integrations 18:30:32 <vkmc> flwang1, let's focus on that then 18:30:41 <vkmc> and of course, on the code reviews that are there 18:31:17 <flwang1> vkmc: i see, but the problem is even thought that's a clear goal, there is no clear target :( 18:31:34 <vkmc> flwang1, wrt mission statement for the project? 18:31:54 <flwang1> vkmc: no, i mean 18:32:34 <flwang1> though we know we need more contributors, but it's hard to target, you know what i mean? 18:32:41 <vkmc> flwang1, yeah 18:33:08 <flwang1> that's a problem since 2 years ago, even longer before 18:33:21 <vkmc> yeah 18:33:33 <vkmc> ever since RAX left, we have had the same issue 18:37:36 <flwang1> vkmc: yep 18:41:50 <vkmc> some action items them 18:41:55 <vkmc> s/them/then 18:42:03 <flwang1> vkmc: hard to say now 18:42:23 <vkmc> #action vkmc, flwang, flaper87 to do a call for more contributors for Ocata 18:42:44 <flwang1> vkmc: cool 18:42:49 <vkmc> #action vkmc, flwang, flaper87 to organize meetings on that regard for the design session in OpenStack 18:42:59 <vkmc> not sure if apart from the deprecation review, there is another high prio review 18:43:29 <flwang1> vkmc: we have 18:43:31 <flwang1> https://review.openstack.org/333536 18:43:39 <flwang1> the install guide patch 18:43:50 <flwang1> if you want to see a nice install guide published on docs.openstack.org 18:44:17 <flwang1> and https://review.openstack.org/352685 if you want to see zaqarclient can support HTTPS 18:46:15 <flwang1> and a zaqar bench fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348107/ 18:46:22 <flwang1> sorry for so many review requests 18:47:03 <vkmc> it's ok :) thanks for working on this changes 18:48:50 <vkmc> let's call a meeting then, unless there is something else to bring up 18:49:40 <flwang1> vkmc: ok 18:50:13 <flwang1> anything else? i'm going to end this meeting, since we have discussed the most important topic today :) 18:50:53 <vkmc> coolio :) 18:50:55 <vkmc> nothing else from me 18:51:57 <flwang1> vkmc: cool, thanks for joining 18:52:00 <flwang1> #endmeeting