15:00:41 <flwang1> #startmeeting zaqar
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15:01:03 <flwang1> #topic Roll call
15:01:19 <vkmc> o/
15:01:43 <Eva-i> yo
15:02:03 <flwang1> where is lovely flaper87?
15:02:21 <vkmc> no idea
15:02:22 <ryansb> o/
15:02:59 <jasondotstar> o/
15:03:25 <flwang1> the main topic of today's meeting is the schedule of summit
15:03:35 <flwang1> #topic summit session schedule
15:03:51 <flwang1> based on the proposals at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Mitaka-Zaqar
15:04:21 <flwang1> i just worked out the schedule of zaqar sessions https://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/zaqar#.ViPBL-Tv1x0
15:04:37 <flwang1> and i have sent a mail to openstack-dev mail list to get feedbacks
15:05:14 <exploreshaifali> Hello!
15:05:24 <exploreshaifali> yes I saw the e-mail :)
15:05:46 <flwang1> i combined zaqar dashboard, doc/wiki and pool group into the fishbowl session
15:06:25 <flwang1> but we need to confirm if all the session leaders could be there
15:06:36 <vkmc> flwang1, I think the pool group api would need more time for discussion
15:07:07 <vkmc> I would swap client/cli work session for pool group api
15:07:34 <flwang1> vkmc: works for me
15:08:06 <flwang1> vkmc: given the gap of zaqar client is basically clear
15:08:10 <vkmc> yeah
15:08:24 <vkmc> I just asked mdnadeem to join us
15:08:28 <vkmc> so he can define if he can lead it
15:09:03 <flwang1> exploreshaifali: you will lead the zaqar horizon session, right?
15:09:11 <flwang1> is 20 mins enough for you?
15:09:35 <exploreshaifali> yes, but is it possible to change date or time?
15:09:54 <exploreshaifali> I want to attend another session on same day, time  from 4:40pm - 6:10pm
15:10:26 <exploreshaifali> if it creates trouble for you all, its fine, I can leave that session
15:10:28 <exploreshaifali> ;)
15:10:48 <exploreshaifali> flwang1, ^
15:11:02 <flwang1> exploreshaifali: i'm afraid we don't have another slot now, but we can try to figure out it
15:11:22 <exploreshaifali> flwang1, no problem :)
15:11:47 <flwang1> exploreshaifali: i would prefer to keep that time for you unless if there is another change suitable for you, is that ok?
15:13:04 <flwang1> vkmc: are you happy with the time for your real time horizon session? if horizon team can't change their session time
15:13:24 <vkmc> flwang1, sure, works for me
15:13:30 <flwang1> vkmc: thanks
15:14:04 <flwang1> vkmc: if you can catch up flaper87, pls help me confirm if the time works for him for the sahara session
15:14:12 <vkmc> flwang1, sure thing
15:14:36 <flwang1> vkmc: you will get a NZ chocolate
15:14:51 <vkmc> flaper87, if you read this later, please ping us so we arrange the sched :)
15:15:01 <vkmc> flwang1, :D :D
15:15:04 <exploreshaifali> sorry!
15:15:24 <flwang1> exploreshaifali: ?
15:15:35 <exploreshaifali> flwang1, so yes, its fine if we don't have any other slot :)
15:15:47 <flwang1> exploreshaifali: thanks a lot :)
15:15:53 <exploreshaifali> :D
15:16:05 <flwang1> vkmc: share your chocolate with exploreshaifali :)
15:16:17 <exploreshaifali> haha
15:16:46 <vkmc> I'll think about it
15:17:07 <vkmc> haha kidding, she deserves a ton of poptarts
15:17:15 <exploreshaifali> :D
15:17:23 <flwang1> we still need to figure out the other sessions
15:17:56 <flwang1> as for client session, vkmc will you lead it or dynarro will be there?
15:18:09 <vkmc> dynarro will be there
15:18:30 <vkmc> she has been working on the client in the last couple of months, so she would have a better idea of the current status of the client right now
15:19:10 <flwang1> vkmc: cool
15:20:15 <vkmc> looking at the sched
15:20:21 <flwang1> vkmc: if we swap client session and the pool group session, do you think 10 mins is enough for client session?
15:20:25 <vkmc> there is one working session for horizon-zaqar in the horizon namespace
15:20:33 <vkmc> and another one in our namespace
15:20:41 <vkmc> so we will have plenty of time to discuss about it heh
15:20:45 <flwang1> vkmc: yep
15:20:50 <vkmc> flwang1, totally yes
15:21:04 <flwang1> vkmc: cool
15:21:20 <vkmc> she has done several improvements... what it remains is to plan a bit how we are going to implement the client for v2 features (signed urls, subscriptions)
15:21:35 <flwang1> vkmc: nice
15:21:37 <flaper87> flwang1: vkmc sorry, kinda in the middle of something
15:21:46 <flwang1> flaper87: i miss you, man
15:21:50 <flaper87> I replied to the email thread saying that the wednesday slot worked for me
15:21:52 <vkmc> flaper87, we have gummybears here
15:21:59 <flaper87> I WANT GUMMYBEARS
15:22:05 <vkmc> so... its more important for you to be here
15:22:10 <exploreshaifali> flaper87, \o
15:22:15 <flwang1> flaper87: that's the best answer i want to know, re the session time
15:22:17 <flaper87> exploreshaifali: w000h000
15:22:30 <flaper87> flwang1: :)
15:23:28 <flwang1> vkmc: will you lead the doc session? is 10 mins enough?
15:23:52 <vkmc> flwang1, I can make it work
15:24:21 <flwang1> vkmc: cool, you know, we can discuss more offline :)
15:24:26 <vkmc> sure
15:24:49 <vkmc> we have to redefine the docs structure basically
15:24:52 <vkmc> we already have some input
15:25:05 <flwang1> vkmc: great
15:25:10 <ryansb> can you explain the gist of the new structure?
15:25:31 <exploreshaifali> ryansb, there is an etherpad for it
15:25:52 <Eva-i> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zaqar-mitaka-docs
15:25:57 <ryansb> ah, neat thank you
15:26:32 <Eva-i> Please pay attention to the "critical note" I made about docs structure
15:26:35 <flwang1> so for now, only the pool group session needs to be confirmed
15:28:08 <flwang1> i will confirm with mdnadeem
15:29:02 <flwang1> ok, so i assume all of you guys are happy with current schedule, if there any change, i will send mail to openstack-dev
15:29:32 <vkmc> Eva-i, in the summits we generally set up etherpads so people that cannot attend can leave their thoughts... minutes for the working session are written there
15:31:20 <flwang1> btw, i'm going to cancel next weekly meeting since some of you guys may be in travel. any objection?
15:31:54 <vkmc> I'm good with that
15:32:01 <exploreshaifali> too me :)
15:32:02 <vkmc> I'd suggest to cancel the two upcoming meetings
15:32:05 <vkmc> in fact
15:32:05 <vkmc> haha
15:32:14 <exploreshaifali> +1 vkmc
15:32:26 <ryansb> yeah, I doubt many folks will be able to attend
15:32:29 <flwang1> vkmc: your suggestions are always great :)
15:33:32 <flwang1> cool, anything we need to discuss about the schedule?
15:33:47 <vkmc> nothing else from me
15:34:26 <flwang1> any topic from you guys? otherwise move to open discussion
15:34:47 <Eva-i> If it's not hard, please review https://bugs.launchpad.net/zaqar/+bug/1506091
15:34:47 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1506091 in zaqar "Testing databases are not dropped after some tests" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Eva Balycheva (ubershy)
15:35:07 <huangkai> Please review Lenovo Ironic driver:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208319/
15:35:16 <flwang1> Eva-i: that's one thing i raised several weeks ago
15:35:35 <huangkai> another major vendor's driver, Pending for final review for weeks
15:35:55 <flwang1> personally, i would like to see all the test db can be dropped after test run
15:36:06 <Eva-i> flwang1: haven't noticed, maybe because I wasn't here several weeks ago =)
15:36:28 <flwang1> but therve said it will cause the test run slowly though i didn't buy in that :D
15:36:39 <flwang1> flaper87: any comments? ^
15:36:51 <flwang1> huangkai: we're in zaqar meeting
15:37:24 <flwang1> huangkai: you should ping ironic guys in ironic channel
15:37:30 <huangkai> Sorry, wrong timeslot :(
15:37:32 <flwang1> vkmc: ^
15:38:18 * vkmc checking Eva-i's bug report
15:38:34 <Eva-i> flwang1: I think tests will not be slowed down much, if we'll use tearDownClass(cls) method.
15:38:56 <ryansb> I agree, I really doubt it would affect performance
15:39:14 <ryansb> and it would mean I don't have to use my "kill all the mongodb collections" script anymore
15:39:41 <flwang1> ryansb: yes
15:39:43 <vkmc> agree with that
15:40:00 <Eva-i> flwang1: also aren't tests slowed down by setUp method which bootstraps each time?
15:40:37 <flwang1> Eva-i: i would mark it as a valid bug and feel free post a patch for review
15:41:36 <Eva-i> as you may know, setUp() is being called before each execution of test class's method
15:42:09 <Eva-i> We may use setUpClass(cls) in a test class to bootstrap only once
15:42:28 <flwang1> Eva-i: we can discuss the details in zaqar channel :)
15:42:37 <Eva-i> flwang1: okay
15:42:45 <Eva-i> thank you guys for the feedback
15:43:00 <Eva-i> we can move to the next topic
15:43:12 <flwang1> #topic open discussion
15:43:51 <flwang1> i would like to propose a team lunch during tokyo summit if you guys are interested
15:44:10 <exploreshaifali> sure sure :D
15:44:14 <Eva-i> :o
15:44:37 <flwang1> now zaqar team is using wechat for the team hang out chat tool
15:45:28 <exploreshaifali> whaaat?
15:45:36 <exploreshaifali> I am not in there :/
15:46:01 <flwang1> depends the food taste of summit, we may go for suchi out of the summit hall
15:46:17 <flwang1> exploreshaifali: i'm confused
15:46:31 <flwang1> you won't be in tokyo?
15:46:36 <exploreshaifali> I was talking about wechat
15:46:46 <flwang1> exploreshaifali: ah
15:46:51 <exploreshaifali> haha
15:46:56 <Eva-i> why wechat? -_- why not something open and secure?
15:46:58 <flwang1> just search wechat in app store
15:47:05 * exploreshaifali installing it
15:47:25 <flwang1> Eva-i: we was planning to use zaqar to send message but ...
15:47:47 <Eva-i> =)
15:48:11 <flwang1> Eva-i: there are about 1B people are using wechat
15:48:17 <flwang1> so it should be secure
15:48:24 <flwang1> but yes, it's not open
15:49:10 <Eva-i> maybe jabber is better? there are many jabber servers and clients for mobile/desktop OSes
15:49:33 <Eva-i> there are also chats which are called "conferences"
15:50:31 <flwang1> Eva-i: will take a look, thanks
15:51:17 <flwang1> we will work out a time and send out the time and location after confirmed
15:51:25 <flwang1> ok, 9 mins left
15:51:25 <Eva-i> I know a good jabber server where we can create our chat room. If needed, the server can be created by one of us
15:52:29 <flwang1> Eva-i: if all the other guys want to use jabber, i don't mind ;)
15:53:26 <flwang1> okay, thanks everybody for joining today's meeting
15:53:46 <flwang1> #endmeeting