14:26:20 <csatari> #startmeeting weekly_edge_computing_group_cal
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14:26:29 <csatari> #topic Roll Call
14:26:41 <csatari> #info Gergely Csatari
14:26:50 <ildikov> #info Ildiko Vancsa
14:27:57 <csatari> What topics should we cover today?
14:28:04 <ildikov> Looks like it'll be a small group meeting :)
14:28:15 <ildikov> these are the regular items: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group#Next_meeting:_Tuesday_.28March_18.29.2C_7am_PST_.2F_1400_UTC
14:28:16 <csatari> Smallest group.
14:28:32 <ildikov> :)
14:28:37 <csatari> Cool.
14:28:49 <ildikov> we had some good chats about the reference architectures
14:28:52 <ildikov> recently
14:29:18 <ildikov> I was wondering if it would make sense to draw up reference model diagrams?
14:29:42 <ildikov> thinking along the lines of what we want from an architecture in general and then how it can be realized
14:29:59 <ildikov> and whether it would make it easier to get to the container discussions that way as well?
14:30:55 <csatari> Drawing is always good.
14:31:18 <ildikov> :)
14:31:34 <csatari> Do you think about something totally different from the current architecture diagrams?
14:31:54 <ildikov> no I meant the generalized version of the current diagrams first
14:32:10 <csatari> Like adding functionalities to the different "edge locations"?
14:32:38 <ildikov> kind of identifying what functionality each site would need in the centralized as well as the distributed case
14:32:52 <csatari> Yes, I think that would make sense.
14:32:52 <ildikov> then we have the architectures that show an example of how to build that system
14:33:37 <ildikov> and the architecture diagrams can be extended by components that support containers
14:34:03 <ildikov> while the model diagrams may already contain the functionality on high level
14:34:33 <ildikov> I'm just thinking that it would be nice to have a few diagrams that's not tied to existing projects/solutions
14:34:55 <ildikov> *that are not
14:35:03 <csatari> Yes I agree.
14:36:41 <ildikov> I guess I should look for some online diagram making tool thingy that supports collaborating on these :)
14:39:04 <csatari> Okey, now I started to Google for collaborative chart drawing.
14:39:05 <ildikov> during the whitepaper chats we also talked a bit more about storage so it looks like we may have some info around that to use
14:39:27 <ildikov> :)
14:39:59 <ildikov> I'm not sure if it exists unless we want to draw diagrams in a Google doc which I don't like as it's often painful and not accessible everywhere
14:42:25 <ildikov> csatari: https://creately.com
14:42:40 <ildikov> it says the basic plan is free, need to find out what that means
14:43:21 <csatari> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ug7Mfua0/
14:43:36 <csatari> The 3 collaborator limit might be a problem.
14:43:41 <ildikov> yeah :/
14:44:23 <csatari> Maybe https://www.lucidchart.com/pages/landing/diagram-tool
14:47:11 <ildikov> it says single user
14:47:21 <csatari> yep.
14:47:53 <ildikov> so I guess it's not for collaboration?
14:48:32 <ildikov> https://online.visual-paradigm.com/diagrams/
14:50:15 <csatari> Can be.
14:50:21 <csatari> This looks good.
14:50:41 <ildikov> the last one?
14:50:56 <csatari> Yes
14:51:56 <ildikov> I also found this: https://miro.com/l/remote-collaboration?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=%7B_utmcampaign%7D&utm_term=+collaborating%20+online&utm_content=426018196680&xuid=EAIaIQobChMI35TE_-Ch6AIVi4eyCh1gqAIJEAAYASAAEgKtivD_BwE&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI35TE_-Ch6AIVi4eyCh1gqAIJEAAYASAAEgKtivD_BwE
14:53:18 <ildikov> nah, this seems to have a lot of limitations too
14:54:07 <ildikov> the visual paradigm one says it'll add a watermark, but I think it should be fine unless it's very disturbing
14:54:25 <ildikov> I can always re-draw the diagrams we agree on in ppt or smth like
14:55:03 <csatari> I'm not sure how can we collaborate with it.
14:55:17 <csatari> I could not find any menus to share.
14:55:27 <csatari> https://online.visual-paradigm.com/w/lqlimsns/diagrams/#proj=0&type=BlankDiagram
14:57:35 <csatari> We need more research on this ;)
14:58:22 <ildikov> I think so too :)
14:58:35 <ildikov> maybe you can invite people once you signed up?
14:58:45 <ildikov> I'll also ask around if someone knows something
14:59:07 <csatari> Okey
14:59:40 <ildikov> but we have a lan for the diagrams at least :)
15:00:06 <csatari> Yes ;)
15:00:51 <csatari> I need to drop off soon. Anything else we wanted to cover?
15:01:22 <ildikov> we can talk more about the diagrams in details next week
15:01:26 <ildikov> and containers
15:01:30 <csatari> Argeeed.
15:01:34 <csatari> *2
15:01:42 <ildikov> and if the CNTT group finalizes plans we can talk about collaboration with them too
15:01:55 <csatari> *3
15:02:03 <ildikov> I will drop a mail to the mailing list if I find a tool in the meantime
15:02:29 <csatari> Cool, thanks.
15:02:35 * ildikov thanks
15:02:49 <csatari> #endmeeting