13:00:12 #startmeeting watcher 13:00:13 Meeting started Wed Sep 13 13:00:12 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:00:15 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:00:17 The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' 13:00:32 o/ 13:00:39 Hi 13:02:15 I had low activity for last two weeks due to my postgraduate exams, but it's ended now at last :) 13:02:37 hi 13:02:46 hi hidekazu 13:03:13 hidekazu: how was your meeting yesterday? I've seen appropriate etherpad 13:03:42 alexchadin: nice meeting. 13:05:36 let's discuss last blueprints 13:06:01 I think next meeting will be the last to discuss prioritizing of blueprints 13:06:21 and we will return to our classic structure 13:06:58 #topic Blueprint Review 13:07:18 Query the list of auditable resource types for a given goal #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/query-list-of-auditable-resource-types-for-a-goal 13:09:33 It doesn't look clear to me 13:10:49 alexchadin: me too. 13:10:50 I suppose it's useless in the context of current architecture 13:11:30 I'd tag it as obsolete 13:12:29 Soft delete goals during the synchronization of the plugins #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/soft-delete-goals 13:13:36 it makes sense 13:14:24 if we remove some goals, watcher should catch it and deprecate audit templates at least 13:14:40 white board says should be moved as a bug 13:15:10 anyway, worth doing. 13:15:28 creating the bug 13:15:58 and mark this bp as superseded 13:17:01 Trigger action plan via a notification #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/trigger-action-plan-via-notification 13:18:24 Vincent proposes to remove direct call between DE and Applier and change it to notifications 13:19:20 what would you say? 13:19:39 waht is the benefit? 13:21:19 It would seems different with other projects in openstack. 13:21:19 suzhengwei: I don't know :) 13:21:47 I'd talk to vincentfrancoise about these BPs 13:22:04 alexchadin: any advantage?? 13:22:53 adisky: I don't see any for now. IMHO, notifications are more about cooperation among projects 13:23:10 Yes agreed..with suzhengwei..it will be different from traditional OpenStack project 13:23:24 architecture 13:23:35 I'll talk to Vincent to get his opinion 13:23:40 yes. in project we use rpc call, among projects we use notification or api 13:23:49 alexchadin: +1 13:23:50 add a name for an audit #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/add-name-for-audit 13:24:12 suzhengwei: seems everything is ok with this BP 13:24:25 suzhengwei: I'll review it soon 13:24:36 thx 13:26:25 cluster maintance #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/cluster-maintaining 13:27:29 It's new feature. we can take it slowly. 13:29:02 suzhengwei: as Adam said before, I suppose this BP is not about optimization 13:31:43 suzhengwei: watcher is intended to execute audits continuously, this bp is for oneshot launches 13:32:12 I found it in Vsphere DRS. I don;t know the better project to set it in openstack other than watcher. 13:33:14 suzhengwei: what about Masakari or Freezer? 13:33:59 inappropriate 13:34:20 if "cluster" is big, cluster-maintenance should be continuously, isn't it? 13:34:28 yes 13:35:04 If we accept maintaining, I would import more strategy about maintaining. 13:36:57 suzhengwei: how do you plan to choose destination host? 13:37:10 personally, maintaining could be one new feature for watcher, like power saving. 13:38:26 alexchadin: we could talk about it in watcher chanel when we are both free. 13:38:34 alexchadin: you confused with workload evacuate strategy ? 13:38:52 workload evacuate strategy was abandoned. 13:40:08 suzhengwei: sure, let's talk about on watcher channel 13:41:06 hidekazu: evacuate strategy was about post-failure state of cluster. it is part of openstack freezer project https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Freezer 13:42:08 alexchadin: sure, i understand aspiers pointed out that strategy. 13:42:21 move on 13:42:48 Handle multiple datasources independently from the strategy #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/watcher-multi-datasource 13:44:04 seems that Bin Zhou isn't working on it 13:44:13 alexchadin: i am planning to do it 13:44:19 who would like to take it? :) 13:44:22 adisky: great! 13:44:40 May I assign you? 13:44:53 I asked bin, he could not take it up 13:45:20 alexchadin: yea, assign me 13:45:36 But keep it for queens-3 13:47:04 Mechanism for the consolidation of multiple actions plans to a single one #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/action-plans-consolidation 13:48:38 do we need it? 13:49:46 alexchadin: I think sometimes.it will lead to ambigous action plan 13:50:04 It will have many corner cases 13:50:23 I don't think we need it on priority 13:51:20 it would be really hard to understand consolidated action plans (as for admin) 13:51:51 I'll set it as undefined 13:52:17 +1 13:52:24 Multiple global efficacy indicator #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/multiple-global-efficacy-indicator 13:52:43 alexchadin: I am doing it 13:53:05 It is required for Nec zone migration strategy 13:53:12 adisky: will it be ok if I set low priority? 13:53:58 alexchadin:ok 13:54:45 fine! 13:55:00 we've done our list today 13:55:29 thank you for coming! 13:55:44 Bye 13:55:52 bye 13:55:53 bye 13:55:59 I will prepare prioritization list by end of PTG 13:56:12 bye 13:56:18 #endmeeting