13:00:21 <alexchadin> #startmeeting watcher 13:00:21 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jun 7 13:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:00:22 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:00:25 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' 13:00:31 <alexchadin> hi watcher folks! 13:00:54 <adisky__> Hi 13:00:56 <licanwei> hi 13:01:49 <alexchadin> #topic Announcements 13:01:58 <alexchadin> #info This Thursday we will have pike-2 release 13:02:26 <alexchadin> so I won't include tomorrow's patches into release 13:02:38 <hidekazu> alexhi 13:02:43 <vincentfrancoise> o/ 13:02:57 <alexchadin> I will point some patches that would be great to merge by EOD 13:03:16 <alexchadin> or it will happen during pike-3 13:03:45 <alexchadin> for now, we have completed 4 blueprints for pike-2 by 10:00 UTC 13:04:30 <alexchadin> I believe BP is done when it has spec and implementation part 13:04:47 <alexchadin> #info Watcher Install guide has been migrated! +1 to our maturity level 13:04:57 <alexchadin> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463281/ 13:05:04 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: nice! 13:05:11 <alexchadin> that's really nice 13:05:52 <alexchadin> #info watcher-core members have been added to the watcher-core-specs group 13:06:12 <alexchadin> so, vincentfrancoise licanwei hidekazu Pru you are welcome :) 13:06:27 <Yumeng__> Hi sorry for late 13:06:33 <alexchadin> Yumeng__: hi! 13:06:44 <vincentfrancoise> Yumeng__: hi 13:07:42 <alexchadin> any other announcements? 13:09:50 <alexchadin> well, let's move on 13:09:55 <alexchadin> #topic Open Discussions 13:10:20 <alexchadin> as you may remember, I asked you to take a look at Storyboard 13:10:21 <alexchadin> Should we migrate our blueprints and bugs from Launchpad to the Storyboard? Should we do it during the pike cycle? IMHO (alexchadin) it would be better to start work with Storyboard along with new cycle. 13:11:01 <alexchadin> https://storyboard.openstack.org 13:11:06 <adisky__> +1 13:11:48 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: I've spent like 15mn on the interface but there are some features of launchpad I don't see as of now 13:12:06 <alexchadin> I think, it would be appreciate to migrate our blueprints and bugs when pike cycle is over and we have scope of undecided BPs 13:12:25 <alexchadin> vincentfrancoise: which ones? 13:12:31 <licanwei> I suggest to start with storyboard with new cycle 13:13:02 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: How to differentiate stories and the BPs, and how to see the BP dependency graph 13:13:57 <alexchadin> vincentfrancoise: stories is a BPs in Storyboard glossary 13:14:04 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: like stories are BPs and work lists are the implementation> 13:14:06 <vincentfrancoise> ? 13:14:06 <alexchadin> It all begins with a story. A story is a bug report or proposed feature. Stories are then further split into tasks, which affect a given project and branch. 13:14:34 <alexchadin> vincentfrancoise: https://storyboard.openstack.org/?#!/page/about 13:15:01 <alexchadin> vincentfrancoise: boards is useful thing 13:15:26 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: yeah the board is the biggest win of this tool 13:15:29 <alexchadin> vincentfrancoise: but I don't see dependency graph too 13:15:54 <alexchadin> vincentfrancoise: I may ask Foundation contact person about this feature 13:16:06 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: the dependency graph is great to understand the big picture of what we want to achieve 13:16:34 <alexchadin> vincentfrancoise: keeping dependency graph will help us to control BP workflow 13:17:43 <persia> If I may, some things I've seen from other Storyboard users: some mapping of BPs to specs repos, where the spec change is one of the tasks in the Storyboard story. 13:18:25 <persia> There is no equivalent to the dependency graph (and too many discussions of the semantics for "dependency" in issues/bugs/features/etc. for there to be one soon) 13:19:04 <persia> I've seen some other users track this with a simple dependency test file, and tooling to generate graphs, although this may or may not work for you. 13:19:08 * persia subsides 13:20:04 <vincentfrancoise> persia: thanks for the heads up 13:20:14 <alexchadin> persia: thank you 13:21:08 <alexchadin> Yumeng__ hidekazu what do you think about migrating? 13:21:55 <hidekazu> alexchadin: i do not test enough. but as of now, i can not find clear advantage of migrating. 13:22:02 <alexchadin> vincentfrancoise: maybe we need to learn tracking with dependency test file 13:22:21 <Yumeng__> I have no objection. Good for migration 13:22:22 <alexchadin> hidekazu: boards! 13:22:26 <alexchadin> :) 13:22:31 <Yumeng__> :) 13:22:39 <pcarver> Excuse my barging in, but this is a topic of interest to me. The Series and milestones view in Launchpad is too valuable to give up without a replacement. 13:23:06 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: hum, IMHO we shouldn't complicate things for us 13:23:12 <pcarver> I'm interested in Storyboard, but I think it needs this feature before projects should migrate completely off of Launchpad 13:23:28 <alexchadin> pcarver: you are right 13:23:29 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: either it's in storyboard or we function differently 13:24:32 <alexchadin> ok, I will write pros and contras and send it to Foundation 13:24:55 <alexchadin> Series and milestones are pretty useful 13:25:10 <pcarver> It's particularly useful because it's consistent across projects. Storyboard may allow projects to independently create their own views, but with Launchpad I can go to most OpenStack projects and see what their Ocata, Pike, etc milestones are and what blueprints and bugs are targetted at each. 13:25:20 <vincentfrancoise> pcarver: I agree because if you split your stories too much, it becomes difficult to understand at a glance what is the end goal of the BP you are looking at 13:26:33 <pcarver> I don't actually pay attention to Watcher, just happened to open my IRC to openstack-meeting-alt this minute, but I can immediately see what you guys are working on fir pike-3 milestone, for example, without having to put any effort into it 13:28:58 <alexchadin> I will create etherpad and let's everyone write their feedback on Storyboard 13:29:14 <hidekazu> +1 13:29:23 <alexchadin> with pro and contra regarding to launchpad 13:29:49 <adisky__> +1 13:30:08 <licanwei> +1 13:31:32 <alexchadin> and the second topic I haven't mentioned in agenda: shouldn't we try to start chat in gitter.im? this service will allow to 13:31:56 <alexchadin> duplicate messages in gitter and IRC channel 13:33:06 <alexchadin> it looks like "[From Gitter] alexchadin : ping pong" 13:33:30 <hidekazu> alexchadin: can i continue to use irc channel? 13:33:40 <alexchadin> hidekazu: sure 13:33:55 <vincentfrancoise> if people can use both then why not 13:34:07 <alexchadin> gitter allows to see messages from IRC 13:35:56 <alexchadin> great 13:36:05 <hidekazu> i will continue to use irc. 13:36:09 <alexchadin> do you want to discuss something else? 13:37:50 <alexchadin> let's move on 13:37:58 <alexchadin> #topic Review Action Items 13:38:03 <alexchadin> Watcher specs 13:38:18 <alexchadin> Noisy Neighbor Strategy needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ 13:39:15 <hidekazu> alexchadin: this needs update. 13:39:17 <alexchadin> sballe_ will submit new PS soon 13:39:23 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: there's already +2 and -1 13:39:29 <alexchadin> hidekazu: yeah, she knows 13:40:08 <lakerzhou2> I think the codes need some final polish, also I had a question about function of find dest-server for noisy neighbor to migrate 13:41:06 <alexchadin> #info sballe_ submit new PS on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ 13:41:24 <alexchadin> Support workload fingerprinting needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448396/ 13:42:51 <lakerzhou2> I will review the fingerprinting spec 13:43:09 <alexchadin> #info lakerzhou2 review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448396/ 13:43:15 <alexchadin> lakerzhou2: thanks! 13:43:26 <alexchadin> Build baremetal data model in watcher needs core reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448016/ 13:44:35 <alexchadin> hidekazu licanwei now you may review it again as cores :) 13:44:49 <hidekazu> alexchadin: yes. 13:45:05 <licanwei> ok 13:45:11 <licanwei> :) 13:45:50 <alexchadin> Add new actions "power on" and "power off" in Watcher needs final core review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435436/ 13:46:06 <alexchadin> the same here 13:46:43 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: put me on it ;) 13:47:06 <alexchadin> #info vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435436/ 13:47:33 <alexchadin> update action description needs core reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459529/ 13:48:10 <alexchadin> licanwei: I want to ask one thing about it 13:48:16 <licanwei> ? 13:49:00 <alexchadin> licanwei: you want to send notifications when we get the action? 13:49:51 <licanwei> what's the mean 'get the action'? 13:50:09 <alexchadin> licanwei: "watcher action show" command 13:50:31 <licanwei> yes, if the api side lack action description 13:51:32 <alexchadin> licanwei: ok, let's discuss it later 13:51:45 <licanwei> ok 13:52:02 <alexchadin> who would like to review it? 13:52:52 <Yumeng__> Does it only need core review? 13:53:02 <hidekazu> i already reviewed in terms of updating. because the spec is once approved. 13:53:11 <alexchadin> Yumeng__: any review is appreciate ;) 13:53:23 <Yumeng__> If not, add me on it. 13:53:25 <Yumeng__> :) 13:53:40 <alexchadin> #info Yumeng__ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459529/ 13:53:49 <alexchadin> Watcher 13:53:59 <alexchadin> Cancel Action Plan needs reviews (better to merge it today) #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458492/ 13:55:11 <hidekazu> +1 13:55:56 <alexchadin> #info hidekazu review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458492/ 13:56:12 <alexchadin> Cinder model integration needs final core review (better to merge it today) 13:56:18 <adisky__> Vincent Francoise: addressed all your comments, you can +2 it 13:56:21 <alexchadin> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450642/ 13:57:41 <hidekazu> adisky__: talking about cancel action plan? 13:58:13 <adisky__> hidekazu: yes. 13:58:58 <alexchadin> adisky__: could you please review ? 13:59:00 <alexchadin> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450642/ 13:59:30 <adisky__> alexchadin: I ready reviewed it. 13:59:47 <alexchadin> adisky__: I see, sorry 13:59:53 <alexchadin> we run our of time 13:59:59 <hidekazu> licanwei not here? 14:00:04 <vincentfrancoise> bye everyone ;) 14:00:06 <alexchadin> and we should end up our meeting 14:00:16 <hidekazu> bye 14:00:17 <licanwei> yes,i'm here:) 14:00:21 <Yumeng__> bye 14:00:31 <licanwei> :( 14:00:34 <licanwei> bye 14:00:35 <hidekazu> could you review cinder model integration? 14:00:37 <alexchadin> let's continue on openstack-watcher channel 14:00:39 <hidekazu> byee.. 14:00:40 <licanwei> np 14:00:43 <alexchadin> #endmeeting