14:00:14 <alexchadin> #startmeeting watcher
14:00:15 <openstack> Meeting started Wed May 17 14:00:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:00:19 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'watcher'
14:00:26 <alexchadin> hi!
14:03:13 <alexchadin> Today's agenda is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#05.2F17.2F2017
14:03:32 <vincentfrancoise> o/
14:03:57 <alexchadin> #topic Announcements
14:04:04 <alexchadin> Watcher team made great work on Summit! We have had project on-boarding, team meeting and 2 presentations.
14:04:08 <alexchadin> #info Watcher team made great work on Summit! We have had project on-boarding, team meeting and 2 presentations.
14:04:53 <alexchadin> #info Automating Noisy Neighbor Detection with OpenStack Watcher record on youtube
14:04:56 <alexchadin> #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y68bBiKiDwo
14:04:57 <sballe_> hi sorry for bein glate
14:05:09 <alexchadin> hi sballe_
14:05:13 <Yumeng__> Hi
14:05:20 <alexchadin> #info Help Telecom Operators Save Energy and Reduce Cost of Data Center with OpenStack Watcher record on youtube
14:05:28 <alexchadin> #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gVztRCC3z8
14:06:35 <alexchadin> Yumeng__, sballe_, vincentfrancoise how are you?:)
14:06:48 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: great and you ?
14:07:02 <alexchadin> vincentfrancoise: fine
14:07:03 <Yumeng__> Good 😊 thank you
14:07:27 <alexchadin> #info Corey Bryant from Canonical maintains Watcher packages for Ubuntu.
14:07:33 <lakerzhou> Hi Wachers, this is Bin Zhou, I had network issue, sorry to join late
14:07:44 <alexchadin> hi lakerzhou
14:07:58 <vincentfrancoise> lakerzhou: hi!
14:08:26 <lakerzhou> Hi Alex and Vincent, My very first watcher IRC meeting :)
14:08:39 <alexchadin> lakerzhou: you are welcome:)
14:08:45 <vincentfrancoise> lakerzhou: Welcome!
14:09:07 <Yumeng__> Welcome zhou!
14:09:43 <alexchadin> any other announcements?
14:10:20 <alexchadin> let's go to the open discussions then
14:10:30 <alexchadin> #topic Open Discussions
14:10:44 <alexchadin> #info It would be great to begin support of juju charms. We should wait for Gnocchi to have a charm. How many people do we need to start charm development?
14:11:27 <alexchadin> since I had a long conversations with Canonical guys, I plan to take charms development on my own
14:11:44 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: just as a reminder of the conversation for people who didn't attend, Canonical folks told us they provision 6 weeks to charm-up a new project
14:12:16 <vincentfrancoise> including testing and everything
14:13:37 <lakerzhou> Vincent, can you please explain the context of charm work a little bit?
14:14:19 <alexchadin> vincentfrancoise: thx. and they have snap-packages that seems to be easier to maintain
14:14:47 <alexchadin> some openstack projects already has snap packages for their services
14:15:46 <sballe_> alexchadin: vincentfrancoise can you please review noisy neightbor? I added a comment to vincentfrancoise's comment
14:15:56 <vincentfrancoise> lakerzhou: basically, charms is the Ubuntu project that aims at making the modeling and deployment of an app very easy
14:16:05 <vincentfrancoise> lakerzhou: including openstack
14:16:44 <vincentfrancoise> lakerzhou: but the problem is that they only package the core services of OpenStack and leave the rest up to the community
14:17:04 <alexchadin> sballe_: sure, I will mention noisy neighbor soon
14:17:35 <sballe_> ok sorry I noticed it above and was wonderign if I missed the discussion because I was late
14:17:35 <vincentfrancoise> lakerzhou: so they told us just that but ensured that they would at least test our Watcher juju charm if we manage to create one
14:17:42 <lakerzhou> Vincent, thanks. So it is just a setup/startup effort?
14:18:36 <vincentfrancoise> lakerzhou: don't know what we have to do but in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/watcher-Boston-meetings , they gave https://github.com/openstack/charm-manila  as a good starting point to help us
14:18:53 <alexchadin> lakerzhou: yes, and it will help us to use Watcher without needs to setup devstack and it should attract more contributors
14:19:28 <vincentfrancoise> lakerzhou: I think the work is similar to the one you do to develop and test an Ansible playbook but it's only a feeling
14:19:51 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: potentially yes
14:20:40 <alexchadin> vincentfrancoise: obviously, we need our own charm-repo :)
14:21:02 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: I guess so
14:21:22 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: a https://github.com/openstack/charm-watcher repo then
14:22:01 <alexchadin> I may take it on my own since Dmitrii Shcherbakov from Canonical (he lives in Moscow) can help me with charms locally
14:22:37 <alexchadin> he is charm developer and maintains code base of juju platform
14:23:01 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: cool!
14:23:33 <lakerzhou> vincent, sounds a great start. I thought watcher would integrate charm for work flow management.
14:23:54 <alexchadin> lakerzhou: have you tried to deploy watcher on your dev cloud?
14:25:20 <lakerzhou> Alex, that is my plan this week
14:26:06 <alexchadin> lakerzhou: great! don't forget to send us your questions about watcher on openstack-watcher channel
14:26:16 <alexchadin> any other discussions?
14:27:02 <lakerzhou> Alex, I will. thanks.
14:27:24 <alexchadin> #topic Review Action Items
14:27:40 <alexchadin> Watcher specs
14:27:53 <alexchadin> Build baremetal data model in watcher needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448016/
14:28:41 <alexchadin> Yumeng__: when do you plan to update this spec?
14:29:13 <Yumeng__> Yes , will do tomorrow
14:29:53 <alexchadin> #action Yumeng__ update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448016/ with new PS
14:30:06 <alexchadin> update action description needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459529/
14:31:08 <alexchadin> Add new actions "power on" and "power off" in Watcher needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435436/
14:32:26 <alexchadin> vincentfrancoise: whether David Tardivel have time to review it or not?
14:33:14 <alexchadin> ok, I'll try to do it
14:33:25 <alexchadin> #action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435436/
14:34:05 <Yumeng__> I will ping Vincent later, loooks like he had network issue
14:34:25 <alexchadin> extend-node-status needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464549/
14:34:30 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: I will try
14:35:07 <alexchadin> vincentfrancoise: I've seen you already reviewed it :)
14:35:07 <Yumeng__> +1
14:35:13 <alexchadin> thanks, Yumeng__
14:35:26 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: for the extend-node-status, it looks similar to vm metadata
14:35:33 <alexchadin> #action vincentfrancoise Yumeng__ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464549/
14:35:53 <alexchadin> cluster-maintance-strategy needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464602/
14:36:57 <alexchadin> Noisy Neighbor Strategy needs core reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/
14:37:36 <alexchadin> sballe_, vincentfrancoise I've seen you have had some disagreements
14:37:59 <sballe_> I am not sure it is disagrements
14:38:09 <sballe_> I just was clarifying our goals
14:38:15 <vincentfrancoise> sballe_: +1
14:38:52 <sballe_> I wanted to make sure vincentfrancoise 's comment was addressed
14:39:17 <sballe_> and not buried in an old patch ;-)
14:39:42 <alexchadin> sballe_: oh, fine :)
14:40:08 <alexchadin> I will review it by EOW
14:40:16 <vincentfrancoise> sballe_: I didn't have any hard thought on it but I was playing the devil's advocate so that we take into account the audience's feedback from the summit
14:40:39 <sballe_> :-)
14:41:37 <alexchadin> #action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/
14:41:46 <alexchadin> move on to Watcher
14:41:48 <alexchadin> Watcher
14:42:21 <alexchadin> Add action description needs reviews and Add action description notification needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/dynamic-action-description
14:44:11 <alexchadin> vincentfrancoise: have you seen changes on this PS? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450720/
14:44:37 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: no but put me on it
14:45:20 <alexchadin> #action vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450720/
14:45:38 <alexchadin> Noisy Neighbor Strategy needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454359/
14:46:40 <alexchadin> sballe_: do Pru plan to answer on comments soon?
14:49:03 <alexchadin> Versioned Notifications for service object needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437333/
14:49:03 <sballe_> which comment
14:49:11 <alexchadin> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454359/
14:49:19 <sballe_> alexchadin: yes on the answer
14:50:04 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: just posted a draft comment on Service notification
14:50:09 <sballe_> pru will address
14:50:11 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: but it's a small one
14:51:53 <alexchadin> vincentfrancoise: Vladimir on his vacation, he will publish new PS ASAP
14:52:12 <vincentfrancoise> alexchadin: no problem ;)
14:52:25 <alexchadin> sballe_: great
14:52:39 <alexchadin> Reduced the code complexity needs code reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441873/
14:54:49 <alexchadin> unfortunately, hidekazu is not here yet
14:55:31 <alexchadin> Watcher official install-guide soon will need code reviews
14:55:49 <alexchadin> I'm happy to announce that we will have official install guide soon!
14:56:10 <alexchadin> adisky will try to complete it by next Wednesday
14:56:40 <Yumeng__> Great!
14:57:36 <alexchadin> seems that we are out of time soon :)
14:57:56 <Yumeng__> yep
14:58:42 <alexchadin> I'm happy that code review activity is higher than before summit :)
14:59:27 <alexchadin> well, let's end meeting
14:59:36 <Yumeng__> Bye Alex
14:59:46 <alexchadin> have a good day/evening
14:59:54 <alexchadin> #endmeeting