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14:00:58 <acabot> hi
14:01:01 <sballe> o/
14:01:04 <jwcroppe> o/
14:01:07 <vtech> o/
14:01:08 <brunograz> hi
14:01:13 <jed56> hello
14:01:15 <dtardivel> hi
14:01:16 <seanmurphy> hi guys
14:01:17 <tpeoples> \o
14:01:35 <acabot> our agenda #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#01.2F27.2F2016
14:01:35 <gzhai> hi
14:01:44 <tkaczynski> hello
14:02:03 <acabot> #topic Announcements
14:02:26 <acabot> #info mitaka-2 version of Watcher has been released on monday
14:02:51 <acabot> #info with 9 BPs implemented and 37 bugs fixed
14:03:08 <acabot> thank you everyone for this great job
14:03:38 <acabot> we now have an idea of how many BPs we can manage during a serie
14:03:59 * edleafe rushes in late...
14:04:06 <acabot> #info target is now mitaka-3 scheduled for 3rd of March
14:04:34 <acabot> #info gzhai is now INTEL core contrib on Watcher
14:04:42 <acabot> any other announcement ?
14:04:47 <sballe> acabot: +1
14:05:31 <acabot> #topic Review Actions Items
14:05:57 <acabot> seanmurphy has shared specs for ZHAW algo https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271028/
14:06:05 <acabot> and is looking for reviews
14:06:22 <seanmurphy> thanks acabot
14:06:25 <jwcroppe> I'll review
14:06:33 <acabot> did you guys start implementing ?
14:06:36 <seanmurphy> thanks jwcroppe
14:06:42 <seanmurphy> not yet but soon
14:06:43 <sballe> same here
14:06:48 <seanmurphy> have been v busy with other commitments
14:06:52 <acabot> #action jwcroppe review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271028/
14:06:54 <seanmurphy> into the next week or so
14:07:05 <seanmurphy> but have been looking at the basic_consolidation example
14:07:07 <acabot> #action sballe review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271028/
14:07:26 <jed56> seanmurphy you can maybe improve basic_consolidation implementation
14:07:33 <acabot> vtech seanmurphy : is the doc clear enough ?
14:07:48 <seanmurphy> jed56 - we can certainly try
14:07:50 <acabot> do not hesitate to give us feedback to improve the doc
14:08:08 <jed56> it seem that what you want to do is near
14:08:28 <acabot> yes jed56 suggest that you improve basic consolidation instead of building a new strategy
14:09:04 <seanmurphy> ok - that could work
14:09:06 <tpeoples> yeah seems like the two are trying to do the same thing
14:09:14 <tpeoples> will take a closer look at the spec
14:09:20 <seanmurphy> so - it prob looks like we should have offline discussion on it
14:09:24 <seanmurphy> and perhaps it could be an option
14:09:50 <acabot> ok lets talk on irc before starting implementing a new strategy
14:09:56 <jed56> if you prefer  we can  remove the current implementation she was here only for test
14:10:46 <seanmurphy> ok
14:10:50 <seanmurphy> all good with us
14:10:56 <acabot> ok
14:11:03 <sballe> seanmurphy: that migth be faster for yu too since you have all the plumbing in place already
14:11:22 <seanmurphy> sballe: yep - good point
14:11:48 <vtech> IMO It would be nice to keep both and see how they performs
14:12:25 <vincentfrancoise> that would imply having the efficacy indicator then
14:12:44 <acabot> vtech: in this case do not hesitate to get the plumbing from basic_consolidation
14:13:07 <acabot> yes it could be a good way to test the efficacy indicator
14:13:22 <acabot> when it will be implemented
14:13:56 <acabot> vmahe is working on specs for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/define-the-audit-scope
14:14:04 <sballe> what the ETA on the efficacy indicator
14:14:19 <sballe> oh you answred my questn :)
14:14:47 <acabot> sballe: the review is open but I need to add work items... I planned to do it this morning but ran out of time, I hope to have it by EOW
14:15:08 <sballe> no rush... I know how time slips away
14:15:28 <vtech> cool
14:15:31 <acabot> we need a status for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/watcher-overload-underload but I dont think alexstav is here
14:16:24 <acabot> a patch from jed56 (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270642/) needs review
14:16:52 <tpeoples> #action tpeoples review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270642/
14:17:21 <acabot> #info jed56 added Voluptuous lib to validate action parameters
14:17:47 <acabot> #info vincentfrancoise is adding tempest scenarios
14:18:22 <acabot> #info tpeoples added global requirements
14:18:44 <acabot> and needs review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269310/  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269296/
14:18:56 <tpeoples> we need to get that merged before i can propose watcher to openstack/requirements.. +1
14:19:25 <acabot> can we merge this by EOW ?
14:19:57 <jed56> +2
14:20:02 <jed56> I will take a look
14:20:05 <jed56> today
14:20:05 <tpeoples> thanks jed56
14:20:05 <acabot> #action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269310/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269296/
14:20:21 <acabot> #action jed56 review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269310/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269296/
14:20:21 <jed56> welcome :)
14:20:52 <dtardivel> tpeoples: there is an issue with olso.messaging 4.0.0 : we habe error on watcher.conf.sample generation
14:21:32 <tpeoples> ok, can you give me details on the review?
14:21:33 <dtardivel> tpeoples: no error with 3.1.0 previous version
14:21:49 <dtardivel> tpeoples: yes, of course
14:21:55 <tpeoples> thanks
14:22:10 <acabot> #action dtardivel give details about oslo.messaging 4.0.0 error
14:22:12 <acabot> tpeoples : regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270039/ I moved it to mitaka-3 as we need to do more testing
14:22:43 <tpeoples> +1
14:22:49 <sballe> +1
14:23:02 <acabot> #info reviews are needed for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270039/
14:23:11 <jwcroppe> +q
14:23:14 <jwcroppe> +1
14:24:05 <dtardivel> acabot: review ongoing in our side
14:24:14 <acabot> ok
14:24:43 <acabot> #info tpeoples shared devstack plugin on openstack-dev ML
14:25:07 <acabot> any other action items you want to share ?
14:25:46 <acabot> #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion
14:25:47 <dtardivel> tpeoples: what about your last bug about devstack doc #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1538291
14:25:49 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1538291 in watcher "Improve DevStack documentation" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Taylor Peoples (tpeoples)
14:26:13 <tpeoples> dtardivel: i am going to update the docs to explain how to set up devstack from nothing
14:26:20 <tpeoples> instead of just telling them to use the plugin
14:26:24 <sballe> acabot: junjie and gzhai submitted some bps that we would like to start working n now
14:26:32 <vincentfrancoise> tpeoples: +1
14:26:38 <jed56> +1000
14:26:39 <tpeoples> that way someone with no devstack experience should be able to set it up
14:26:44 <acabot> sballe: yes this is something I'd like to discuss
14:26:58 <acabot> +1
14:27:00 <dtardivel> tpeoples: it is a request coming from openstack-dev ?
14:27:10 <jed56> our PhD will be able to run devstack !
14:27:11 <tpeoples> no, just from me :)
14:27:21 <dtardivel> tpeoples: ok :)
14:27:25 <sballe> +1 n devsack
14:27:30 <sballe> devstack :)
14:28:04 <acabot> so we have many new BPs that we will prioritize next week during our mid-cycle
14:28:15 <sballe> perfect
14:28:30 <acabot> please submit BPs before EOW if you want to have them included in mitaka-3
14:28:46 <gzhai> just BP, not spec, right?
14:28:48 <sballe> I believe mritika created a bp too around fingerprinting. I will follow up with her to make sure I know what she is doing
14:28:59 <tpeoples> #info submit BPs before EOW if you want to have them included in mitaka-3
14:29:24 <acabot> gzhai: could you give us a quick overview of the 3 BPs you submitted ?
14:29:26 <jed56> sballe cool
14:29:32 <sballe> gzhai: I would suggest we start on the spec as well in parallel taht way we will be closer to be able to start implementing
14:29:44 <acabot> tpeoples: thx ;-)
14:29:47 <gzhai> sballe: ok
14:30:05 <acabot> gzhai: yes BPs only
14:30:27 <sballe> acabot: why not start on the spec for one of them?
14:30:33 <gzhai> acabot: we will start from the BP of airflow.
14:31:03 <acabot> sballe gzhai : yes of course, I just want to check that we have all BPs referenced before the mid-cycle
14:31:15 <sballe> +1
14:31:55 <acabot> #info gzhai submited 3 new BPs for 3 new optimization strategies
14:32:04 <gzhai> it check the airflows with power/temperature to see if something wrong or just high workload.
14:32:11 <sballe> acabot: We are just startign the discussion around Watcher and TAP so I am hoping that we can move some of that work in as well as we get it defined.
14:32:39 <acabot> sballe: sure this is something we will discuss next week
14:32:57 <sballe> exactly. tkaczynski will be attending the summit as well as
14:33:00 <tkaczynski> sballe it would be great, but we need quite a lot of discussion to get tothe same page
14:33:42 <sballe> tkaczynski: I agree but I want to make sure we can make progress an d not have to sit and wait around until the next cycle if we have some work taht can be dne
14:34:33 <sballe> but as acabot said we'll discuss next week
14:34:34 <acabot> if tkaczynski and jed56 can have f2f discussion next week, no doubt it will lead to something ;-)
14:34:41 <sballe> +1
14:35:06 <jed56> +1
14:35:14 <tkaczynski> +1
14:36:25 <acabot> tpeoples jwcroppe : any BPs you plan to add before the mid-cycle ?
14:37:10 <acabot> same question for brunograz
14:37:19 <tpeoples> acabot: will think about it, but i was planning on picking up some of the existing TBH
14:37:40 <acabot> brunograz cdupont : you wont be able to attend the mid-cycle but do not hesitate to submit BPs
14:38:32 <sballe> acabot: maybe we can get remote access to brunograz and cdupont when we talk about bps.
14:38:51 <sballe> assumung they ae interested
14:38:59 <acabot> sballe: yes sure, everything will be shared on an etherpad
14:39:09 <sballe> that is true! I forgot
14:39:16 <brunograz> acabot: yes sure
14:39:28 <seanmurphy> brunograz and myself will be at a project meeting feb 2/3
14:39:49 <seanmurphy> we can try to be available but we will be a bit tied up
14:40:03 <acabot> ok, I will share the etherpad link on the agenda page on tuesday
14:40:21 <acabot> should we keep our weekly meeting next week by the way ?
14:40:46 <sballe> I think we should skip it since we have the meetup
14:41:10 <tpeoples> vote for skip
14:41:16 <sballe> +1
14:41:17 <brunograz> +1
14:41:28 <acabot> #info no meeting next week as most of the team will be at the mid-cycle meetup
14:41:54 <gzhai> +1
14:41:58 <acabot> cross-project liaison, sballe, did you see the action last week ?
14:42:10 <sballe> briefly.
14:42:19 <sballe> When was the meeting?
14:42:23 <acabot> tpeoples suggested that we have a cross-project liaison
14:42:30 <sballe> I saw that
14:42:32 <acabot> for watcher
14:42:51 <acabot> and we are looking for a very nice person to do it ;-)
14:43:15 <sballe> I am hapy to take on taht role but need jwcroppe to be my backup when I travel and cannot attend
14:43:20 <acabot> as the meeting is at 10pm french time I'm not sure to be able to attend
14:43:31 <sballe> also I am a nice person so I fit the criteria :)
14:43:41 <acabot> sballe: right :-D
14:43:46 <jed56> +1
14:44:06 <acabot> jwcroppe : what do you think as being the backup ?
14:44:07 <sballe> as long as somebody can be a backup when I cannot attend I am cool with htis
14:44:45 <acabot> I can also be the backup of course
14:45:03 <sballe> I am sure jwcroppe is fine with being the backyp
14:45:07 <jwcroppe> acabot:+1
14:45:14 <jwcroppe> yes, that sounds good
14:45:32 <sballe> acabot: sign me up and jwcroppe as backup
14:45:34 <acabot> #action sballe start acting as the cross-projects liaison for Watcher (jwcroppe as backup)
14:46:14 <acabot> #info final meetup agenda #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_mitaka_mid-cycle_meetup_agenda#Agenda
14:46:37 <acabot> we moved a couple of things from day 1 to 2 according to attendees presence
14:46:45 <sballe> acabot: jut want to heck this is it right? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting
14:46:51 <sballe> s/check
14:47:03 <tpeoples> yes sballe
14:47:06 <acabot> yes
14:47:08 <sballe> thx
14:47:50 <acabot> sballe: we will discuss mitaka priorities on day 1 so please send me an email about "your priorities"
14:48:03 <sballe> will do
14:48:19 <tpeoples> sballe: there is a list of CPLs on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons that i think you should add yourself to too
14:48:24 <acabot> we will probably adjust them on day 3 after 2 days of thinking...
14:48:59 <sballe> acabot: +1
14:49:19 <acabot> vincentfrancoise: experimental jobs and how to be automatic, do you have info on that ?
14:49:37 <tpeoples> that was me
14:49:50 <tpeoples> awesome work by vincentfrancoise on getting the tempest plugin working
14:49:54 <acabot> yes but I know that vincentfrancoise looked at it
14:50:06 <tpeoples> i think we should consider getting that running automagically
14:50:10 <tpeoples> ok, cool
14:50:12 <vincentfrancoise> well, whenever the last batch of tempest tests qet merged
14:50:40 <tpeoples> sounds good vincentfrancoise
14:50:40 <vincentfrancoise> I will make a PS on project-config to make it automatic on the gate
14:51:07 <vincentfrancoise> so probably by EOW
14:51:35 <acabot> will it be a voting job automatically ?
14:51:49 <vincentfrancoise> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272551/
14:51:57 <tpeoples> i think it should be voting tbh
14:52:24 <acabot> tpeoples: +1
14:52:42 <vincentfrancoise> tpeoples: +1 will do
14:53:39 <acabot> #action vincent francoise set tempest test as a voting job on the gate
14:53:45 <acabot> #action vincentfrancoise set tempest test as a voting job on the gate
14:53:47 <tpeoples> since there's nothing left on the agenda.. i have something random.  should we include translation with every patchset, or do it all end of release?
14:54:10 <tpeoples> internally, we do translation as an after thought with an automated tool
14:54:29 <vincentfrancoise> with jed56, we decided to translate it in french as we go along
14:54:41 <acabot> tpeoples : easier to maintain if its done on every PS IMO
14:54:59 <jed56> yes
14:55:31 <tpeoples> ok, that'll work for now but we may want to consider changing that in the future, but we'll save that discussion
14:55:35 <acabot> tpeoples: but if we can run your tool just before releasing it could be great too
14:55:36 <dtardivel> +1
14:56:10 <vincentfrancoise> but it's the same with the sample file which we will eventually remove from the codebase
14:56:42 <acabot> ok
14:56:44 <jed56> vincentfrancoise: we can remove the sample file i think and add some documentaiton
14:57:14 <acabot> jed56: you mean to help developers adding translation in the code ?
14:57:19 <vincentfrancoise> jed56: dtardivel will make a wishlist bug on the matter anytime soon
14:57:32 <jed56> acabot no
14:57:47 <jed56> watcher.conf.sample
14:58:04 <dtardivel> IMO, we will need to review translations just before the release to be sure all translated sentences are coherent
14:58:14 <acabot> #action dtardivel add a wishlist bug to remove the sample file
14:58:16 <sballe> +100
14:58:33 <acabot> dtardivel: ok
14:58:57 <tpeoples> +1 dtardivel, part of that automated preferably
14:59:09 <tpeoples> see some of you next week in austin
14:59:21 <acabot> yes see u in Austin
14:59:25 <acabot> bye
14:59:31 <vincentfrancoise> bye
14:59:32 <dtardivel> bye
14:59:32 <seanmurphy> bye!
14:59:33 <sballe> bye see you next week
14:59:34 <gzhai> bye
14:59:36 <brunograz> bye
14:59:36 <seanmurphy> have fun in TX!
14:59:38 <jed56> bye
14:59:42 <acabot> #endmeeting