17:02:07 <tjones> #startmeeting vmwareapi 17:02:08 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Sep 3 17:02:07 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tjones. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:02:09 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:02:11 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'vmwareapi' 17:02:40 <tjones> hi folks - who's here today? 17:02:45 <arnaud> o/ 17:03:12 * mdbooth_home is vaguely present 17:03:18 <tjones> lol 17:04:15 <tjones> so featyre freeze is basically today 17:04:25 <tjones> too bad i can't spell it 17:04:50 <tjones> oslo.vmware and spawn refactor are soooo close. 17:05:00 <mdbooth_home> oslo.vmware is in 17:05:08 <mdbooth_home> spawn refactor is bouncing in the gate 17:05:14 <tjones> hurrah! 17:05:18 <tjones> closer than i thought 17:05:23 <mdbooth_home> Except for the last patch, which is complicated 17:05:28 <mdbooth_home> and currently rejected 17:05:52 <mdbooth_home> We're going to have to ask for a FFE 17:05:55 <tjones> mdbooth_home: do you have the link handy? 17:06:00 <vuil> I asked john about it. 17:06:05 <vuil> oh hi, was speaking to someone 17:06:29 <vuil> I will split up the patch into two, then we can ask for ffe in the ML 17:06:39 <mdbooth_home> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98322/ 17:06:45 <vuil> thank for the help btw matt 17:06:53 <mdbooth_home> vuil: I already split the tests out 17:07:16 <vuil> oh cool, was looking at a stale page then. 17:07:35 <tjones> ok lets talk about what else we would like to ask for FFE. Other things that missed are ova, ephemeral disk, vsan, spbm 17:07:39 <vuil> matt: you have any leads for two more core sponsors? I'd imagine we have John as one 17:07:42 <tjones> we also have 64 open bugs 17:08:05 <tjones> im saying that cause i would really like us to take some bug fixing time too 17:08:33 <vuil> how much time do we have for bug-fixin again? 17:08:33 <mdbooth_home> vuil: None specifically, I'm afraid. 17:08:53 <tjones> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule 17:09:09 <tjones> 2 weeks to RC 17:10:08 <tjones> so we have john as sponsor for the remaining spawn refactor. we need one more 17:10:25 <vuil> two more I think 17:10:38 <mdbooth_home> Are we going to try to get the test changes in, too? 17:10:55 <mdbooth_home> To be fair, it wasn't immediately obvious to me what the test changes were doing, either 17:11:50 <mdbooth_home> vuil: I haven't actually submitted the tests as a separate patch yet, btw, as I wanted to talk to you first 17:12:05 <vuil> I can take another pass at them 17:12:17 <vuil> yeah let's talk afterwards 17:12:19 <mdbooth_home> k 17:13:01 <mdbooth_home> So, what's the regular mechanism for begging for core sponsors? 17:13:19 <tjones> ok - so the remaining spawn refactor patch we want FFE for (https://review.openstack.org/98322) and we have 1 core sponsor only - correct? 17:13:36 <vuil> I have no idea, its a first for me 17:13:42 <mdbooth_home> tjones: Unless vuil thinks we need to include the tests too, yes 17:13:58 <tjones> well… what we have done in the past is just ask people that have been reviewing it 17:14:36 <mdbooth_home> That would be johnthetubaguy and jaypipes 17:14:39 <vuil> maybe next best thing is to ping folks who have been reviewing the earlier items in the series 17:14:41 <tjones> yes 17:14:51 <arnaud> agreed 17:14:54 <vuil> like brian elliot and daniel b 17:15:04 <mdbooth_home> belliot has also been very helpful with reviews 17:15:08 <tjones> ok who is going to do that? 17:15:36 <mdbooth_home> Post to the mailing list? 17:15:48 <tjones> could do that and ask them on irc 17:15:51 <vuil> let me work out between matt and I, on what to add with the tests. 17:15:57 <tjones> ok thanks 17:16:12 <vuil> then we ping them on irc first 17:16:17 <tjones> so thoughts on the other ones that did not get in? 17:16:34 <mdbooth_home> ephemeral disks has been around since forever, and is pretty simple 17:16:57 <tjones> yes even before i started working on this project ;-) 17:17:28 <mdbooth_home> I didn't bother rebasing it the other day, though, because it looked unlikely to make it 17:17:30 <vuil> yeah and it follows right after the refactor chain which we are asking ffe for, so that's a good candidate 17:18:05 <mdbooth_home> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109432/ 17:18:16 <mdbooth_home> johnthetubaguy seems positive on getting that in, though 17:18:37 <vuil> vsan/streamoptimized has been around for the longest time, it has the misfortune of depending on both the oslo.vmware and the refactoring being done, so alas... 17:19:10 <mdbooth_home> vuil: Does it have good karma? 17:20:36 <tjones> vuil: thoughts on focusing on them for k-1? spawn is a very clear FFE. for ephemeral - garyk can you change the commit message to somethings that makes it clear this is needed for driver consistency? 17:20:40 <vuil> mdbooth: no not quite, but that was mostly because we could not post updated versions of it easily without either one of those landing 17:21:08 <mdbooth_home> vuil: Yeah, sounds like we should give up on it for J. 17:22:01 <vuil> sadly yeah. now that oslo.vmware integration lands, at least I can update and post them without any hack dependencies 17:22:22 <mdbooth_home> +1 17:22:30 <tjones> getting that and refactor in will make our lives so much easier in k 17:22:58 <mdbooth_home> There are a few more from oslo.vmware which currently have -2s 17:23:07 <vuil> spbm stuff? 17:23:21 <mdbooth_home> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100927/ 17:23:26 <mdbooth_home> That's before spbm 17:23:43 <mdbooth_home> It's another disruptive refactor patch, though 17:24:04 <vuil> which is kinda what I said to gary as well. 17:24:44 <vuil> I tried to rebase the refactor stuff on top of it, half dozen conflicts or so 17:25:01 <mdbooth_home> It's looking a bit ignored, unfortunately 17:25:07 <vuil> none too bad, but it does mean score reset and what not 17:25:39 <mdbooth_home> Incidentally, all patches currently in the gate remain at risk for J-3 17:26:02 <mdbooth_home> Basically, if the small gods of the gate decide not to favour us, they won't make it 17:26:21 <tjones> ugh 17:26:25 <mdbooth_home> Could somebody in the appropriate TZ please babysit them overnight? 17:26:36 <mdbooth_home> Well, my overnight 17:26:41 <tjones> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/vmware-spawn-refactor,n,z 17:26:42 <mdbooth_home> Your daytime :) 17:26:53 <vuil> I hope those will be safer candidates for ffe should it come to that. 17:27:14 <vuil> yeah those gods have not been to kind the last 24 hours. 17:27:17 <tjones> i don't see anything under the oslo umbrella 17:28:33 <vuil> mdbooth: sure I will keep tabs, probably nothing more we can do with them apart from reverify if we see hiccups right 17:28:47 <tjones> so - the plan is to ask for FFE on spawn refactor and for garyk to work with john to get ephemeral in as a bug fix. I think that's the best we can do. thoughts on this? 17:28:53 <mdbooth_home> yeah, that's all I think we can do 17:29:04 <mdbooth_home> tjones: +1 17:29:51 <mdbooth_home> As for the gate, the job queue is huge 17:30:06 <mdbooth_home> Given it's a series, the chances of them all getting through are practically zero 17:30:30 <mdbooth_home> If that's going to require a FFE, we should prepare for that 17:30:34 <mdbooth_home> because it's inevitable 17:31:03 <tjones> yeah 17:31:08 <vuil> mdbooth: so you suggest wait and see what gate spits back before asking? 17:31:29 <mdbooth_home> I think we should pound on the gate anyway 17:31:36 <mdbooth_home> But prepare for disappointment 17:31:48 <tjones> :-( 17:31:48 <mdbooth_home> Wait for the -2s 17:31:56 <mdbooth_home> Which will come tomorrow, I guess 17:32:17 <tjones> yeah - so everyone please babysit the patches and we'll see tomorrow 17:32:49 <tjones> anything else to discuss? 17:33:53 <mdbooth_home> Not here 17:34:02 <vuil> not for me 17:34:16 <tjones> ok great - have 1/2 hour back :-) 17:34:24 <tjones> talk to you guys later 17:34:32 <tjones> #endmeeting