08:01:01 <ifat_afek> #startmeeting vitrage
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08:01:12 <ifat_afek> Hi :-)
08:01:21 <nofarsch> Hi!
08:01:31 <tojuvone> Hi
08:02:14 <idan_hefetz> hi
08:07:45 <ifat_afek_> Sorry, I got disconnected
08:07:55 <alexey_weyl> Hello
08:07:58 <ifat_afek_> Today’s agenda:
08:08:04 <ifat_afek_> •	Status and Updates
08:08:08 <ifat_afek_> •	Pike Design sessions
08:08:13 <ifat_afek_> •	Open Discussion
08:08:20 <ifat_afek> #topic Status and Updates
08:08:34 <ifat_afek> My updates: still working on Doctor stuff. Did not progress so much, since I was on vacation and busy with other tasks.
08:08:40 <ifat_afek> #link https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/28379/
08:08:46 <ifat_afek> #link https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/28593/
08:08:51 <ifat_afek> #link https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/28845/
08:08:59 <ifat_afek> As part of the work done for Doctor, I wrote manual installation guide in Vitrage
08:09:00 <yujunz> I went to the wrong meeting room...
08:09:07 <ifat_afek> :-)
08:09:09 <ifat_afek> #link https://review.openstack.org/434353
08:09:26 <ifat_afek> It is now being used as a reference by Gergely Csatari, who wishes to push a “real” installation guide to Vitrage, by OpenStack’s guidelines
08:09:31 <ifat_afek> #link   https://review.openstack.org/437494
08:09:39 <ifat_afek> That’s it for me
08:10:17 <ifat_afek> danoffek says he is about to finish the vitrage id
08:10:37 <eyalb> \o
08:11:21 <alexey_weyl> I will update
08:11:40 <alexey_weyl> I am in the last miles of the "not" operator support in the temlates
08:11:43 <alexey_weyl> *templates
08:12:05 <alexey_weyl> only left to do some change in the scenario_evaluator
08:12:22 <alexey_weyl> hopefully will be pushed till the weekend
08:12:25 <alexey_weyl> thats it
08:12:38 <ifat_afek> alexey_weyl: great, thanks
08:12:46 <ifat_afek> Anyone else wants to update?
08:13:00 <yujunz> I will
08:13:12 <yujunz> Preparing slides for the coming design session
08:13:15 <yujunz> #link https://goo.gl/ujd6m9
08:13:25 <yujunz> The outline is done.
08:13:35 <ifat_afek> yujunz: it looks great
08:13:57 <yujunz> The details are under work by each topic owner
08:13:58 <ifat_afek> If no one else has updates, then lets more to the Pike design session topic
08:14:27 <ifat_afek> #topic Pike Design Sessions
08:14:47 <ifat_afek> Resending the link to the schedule etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-pike-design-sessions
08:14:50 <ifat_afek> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-pike-design-sessions
08:15:36 <ifat_afek> yujunz: just to make it clear - you said that the only session that is important to your colleagues from China is on Tuesday, right?
08:15:54 <yujunz> Yes, the most important ones
08:16:09 <yujunz> They are also interested in other topics, but not as important as those two
08:17:01 <ifat_afek> Ok. So you prefer to keep the morning hours in all days? and I should create video conference invites for all sessions?
08:17:36 <yujunz> That would be good and also for Tuesday afternoon
08:18:01 <yujunz> It is likely the discussion will extend to whole day
08:18:08 <ifat_afek> No problem.
08:18:46 <ifat_afek> But how about more the start hour to 9:30 Israel time? (15:30 Shanghai)
08:18:59 <yujunz> OK, no problem
08:19:48 <ifat_afek> Do you want to discuss the schedule in details?
08:20:07 <ifat_afek> In Monday 10:30-11:30, what do you mean by “opening”?
08:20:17 <yujunz> For you to give a open talk? :-)
08:20:43 <ifat_afek> I don’t have anything to talk about for an entire hour :-)
08:21:08 <ifat_afek> 15 min maybe, for us all to discuss the goals and agenda for the coming week
08:21:09 <yujunz> Alright, I should not put an end time
08:21:16 <yujunz> Feel free to update
08:21:29 <ifat_afek> So I’ll update the etherpad
08:22:18 <yujunz> I'm estimating the length of each talk, so that it will be easier for you to make the agenda
08:22:23 <ifat_afek> Now we have free time slot 11-11:30. Anything you propose to put there?
08:22:26 <ifat_afek> cool
08:22:43 <yujunz> graphdb?
08:22:46 <yujunz> If possible
08:22:59 <ifat_afek> I think the agenda for Monday makes sense. We won’t have much time and mitmstack is important
08:23:16 <ifat_afek> graphdb sounds like a long session, I would put it on Wednesday maybe
08:23:38 <ifat_afek> I see that you added time estimations, so we will have spare time
08:23:58 <ifat_afek> If you think that mitmstack is only 30min, we can put it at 11:00. Or the branching policy
08:24:16 <yujunz> Maybe you can put a roadmap for Pike?
08:24:42 <yujunz> Or you'd like to draw conclusion on the closing talk?
08:24:47 <ifat_afek> Makes sense, although as far as Nokia is concerened we don’t have the final priorities yet
08:25:10 <ifat_afek> We are considering integrations with Mistral and with Glare. These are new ideas that were raised this week
08:25:30 <ifat_afek> So maybe writing down the roadmap at the end of the week makes more sense
08:25:51 <yujunz> Then we can go over a complete list of possible topics at 11:00 slot
08:26:01 <yujunz> I mean for Pike roadmap
08:26:26 <yujunz> And draw a draft roadmap on closing, does that work for you?
08:26:28 <ifat_afek> Sure. And maybe adjust the agenda
08:26:32 <ifat_afek> Yes
08:26:52 <tojuvone> Could update the schedule consistent to be clear it is local time or UTC
08:27:41 <ifat_afek> tojuvone: Hi. I was just thinking the same
08:27:50 <ifat_afek> I’ll change everything to UTC later on
08:28:20 <ifat_afek> And I wanted to ask you - you wanted to discuss the host maintenance. How long do you think we need for this session? any preferred timeslot?
08:28:27 <tojuvone> ifat_afek, thanks, just to be sure when remotely conencted ;)
08:28:35 <ifat_afek> All listed times are UTC+2
08:29:02 <ifat_afek> I will send webex invites, I count on webex to handle it :-) just let us know when you are available
08:29:14 <tojuvone> well, to me it is more roughly to present the idea
08:29:44 <ifat_afek> But I assume it should be followed by a discussion, right?
08:29:49 <tojuvone> maybe 30-45min if some discussion anyhow
08:30:08 <ifat_afek> Ok. Any preffered time?
08:30:25 <ifat_afek> Looks like we can schedule it on Wednesday or Thursday
08:30:27 <tojuvone> morning times are good for my normal work hours
08:30:49 <tojuvone> either one would do
08:30:58 <ifat_afek> OK
08:31:40 <tojuvone> I am going to work to get something by OPNFV summit to have a demo
08:31:57 <tojuvone> but yet there would be more just the idea what would be coming
08:32:13 <ifat_afek> ok
08:32:40 <tojuvone> but it will be good to see and discuss what it would mean in Vitrage
08:33:02 <ifat_afek> yujunz: I think we should schedule one hour for the persistent graph database, and 45min for the host maintenance. Where do you see it fit?
08:33:25 <yujunz> Let me check
08:34:00 <ifat_afek> Do you have concrete plans for all the sessions you listed? are they all planned for Pike? beause if some are future plans, maybe we could make them shorter
08:34:10 <yujunz> You may merge topics in Wednesday morning to  Thursday
08:34:21 <yujunz> They are mostly open topics
08:34:42 <yujunz> done
08:34:43 <ifat_afek> I forgot to change the start times to 9:30, so we will have less time…
08:35:18 <ifat_afek> looks good
08:36:39 <ifat_afek> tojuvone: Wednesday at 7:30-8:30 UTC is good for you? for the host maintenance?
08:36:52 <tojuvone> yes, looks good :)
08:37:06 <yujunz> The time in afternoon can be extend, currently it is time slot convenient for China only
08:37:19 <ifat_afek> BTW, I didn’t include the IRC meeting in the agenda. I think we can skip it next week, unless someone objects
08:37:35 <ifat_afek> It’s fine for us as well
08:38:00 <yujunz> I mean there are other topics to be allocated
08:38:09 <yujunz> Such as UI, machine learning and etc
08:38:20 <ifat_afek> We did not leave time for UI improvements, but I think that if someone takes this task then we can discuss it then
08:39:20 <ifat_afek> Regarding machine learning - we started a POC, I’m not sure how much progress we will have in Pike. We can discuss it if you want
08:39:36 <yujunz> Yes, I'm quite interested in it
08:39:40 <yujunz> +1ed
08:39:56 <ifat_afek> And we have two hours left on Thursday. So maybe we can schedule it then. I don’t think we need two hours for writing the roadmap overview
08:42:05 <yujunz> Looks good
08:42:10 <ifat_afek> Regarding UI - do you think we need another session for it?
08:42:42 <yujunz> Or you can open a free slot for discuss AoB?
08:43:06 <yujunz> I see also vitrage client test in the list
08:44:19 <ifat_afek> What do you mean by AoB?
08:44:46 <yujunz> any other business as in IRC meeting :-)
08:45:32 <ifat_afek> :-)
08:46:01 <ifat_afek> Regarding the test Vitrage client - maybe we can add a 30min slot for discussing Vitrage tests in general
08:46:15 <yujunz> Sounds good
08:46:25 <ifat_afek> Or indeed leave an Open Discussion slot at the end
08:47:05 <tojuvone> Normal design summit way :)
08:47:34 <yujunz> I had a hard time with the trace generator when implementing static datasource...
08:47:51 <yujunz> So quite interested in the testing topic
08:48:44 <ifat_afek> Ok. So how extending the “branching” slot on Monday to include testing, packaging, etc,?
08:49:07 <yujunz> Sounds good
08:51:38 <ifat_afek> yujunz: Now it’s a mess… I wrote branching on 11:00 and I see it is listed on 12:30
08:51:49 <ifat_afek> what was written there before my changes?
08:51:53 <yujunz> I've removed 12:30
08:52:14 <yujunz> just now
08:52:37 <ifat_afek> So let’s put it back and un-squeeze the 10:30-11:30 timeslot
08:52:48 <yujunz> OK
08:53:17 <ifat_afek> tojuvone: Monday at 10:30 or 11:30 UTC suits you, for the testing discussion?
08:54:17 <tojuvone> ifat_afek, yes, it is possible
08:55:04 <ifat_afek> Ok. Are we done? looks like a good agenda
08:55:51 <yujunz> Shall we put the open discussion explicitly?
08:56:02 <ifat_afek> Sure, I forgot about it
08:56:04 <yujunz> on Thursday before closing
08:56:55 <ifat_afek> Done
08:57:12 <ifat_afek> We are almost out of time. Anything else?
08:57:25 <yujunz> Let's test webex after meeting
08:57:31 <yujunz> The audio didn't work
08:57:57 <ifat_afek> I have a meeting in the coming 30min, so let’s test it afterwards. I’ll send a new invite
08:58:07 <yujunz> OK
08:58:20 <eyalb> bye
08:58:25 <ifat_afek> Bye :-)
08:58:26 <yujunz> bye
08:58:30 <nofarsch> נטק
08:58:33 <nofarsch> bye*
08:58:43 <tojuvone> bye
08:59:08 <ifat_afek> #endmeeting