17:09:12 <Piet> #startmeeting UX
17:09:13 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Nov 24 17:09:12 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Piet. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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17:09:16 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ux'
17:09:36 <Piet> If no one objects, I'll go ahead and get the UX meeting started
17:11:01 <david-lyle> o/
17:11:40 <Piet> Has everyone had an opportunity to join Invision to help review mocks?  If not, feel free to reach-out to Ju, Liz, Jaromir or myself to get an invitation.
17:14:50 <david-lyle> seen a lot of reviews, so I think most people are in
17:16:15 <Piet> I want to reinforce that this tool is not just for designers, but for anyone doing working on Horizon including development, design or documentation.  You can also post your own projects if you want them reviewed.
17:18:26 <Piet> Also, wanted the group to know that we are running a usability study on the launch instance workflow.
17:19:47 <Piet> This will be a remote/unmoderated study using usertesting.com so you will not be able to watch in real time.  However, the videos from the study will be made available to the community.
17:22:10 <Piet> Let's take a roll call and see if anyone is listening.
17:22:16 <david-lyle> o/
17:22:57 <david-lyle> \o
17:23:08 <david-lyle> \o/
17:23:22 <david-lyle> seems a bit sparse
17:24:21 <david-lyle> let's call this one and send an email to openstack-dev before the next one. I think we broke cadence along the way and this has fallen off people's radar
17:24:43 <david-lyle> also update the agenda on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/UX
17:25:07 <david-lyle> otherwise the meeting seems like it's been abandoned
17:25:58 <krotscheck> ohai
17:26:10 <krotscheck> Oops, too late.
17:26:33 <david-lyle> krotscheck: Piet hasn't actually closed the meeting yet
17:26:55 <david-lyle> but there are now 3 of us
17:26:57 <david-lyle> :-)
17:27:12 <krotscheck> Well, three of us where one of us doesn’t really work on Horizon ;)
17:27:16 <Piet> Hi Michael
17:27:24 <krotscheck> Although I hear good things about y’all moving to angular :D
17:27:44 <david-lyle> UX is more than Horizon, even if all it's attention seems to go there
17:27:51 <krotscheck> Point
17:27:59 <david-lyle> krotscheck: yeah, we're starting to make some progress
17:28:18 <Piet> One other thing - I have a pre-test for a card sort activity that needs ten participants.  It would be awesome if some of you folks could complete it.
17:28:48 <krotscheck> Sure! Is this an online thing?
17:28:55 <Piet> yeah
17:28:56 <Piet> https://i2471lxv.optimalworkshop.com/optimalsort/002h4457-0
17:29:15 <Piet> I'm getting a lot of drop-offs and wondering why
17:30:20 * krotscheck goes to do that.
17:31:06 <david-lyle> do you want grammar feedback
17:31:07 <david-lyle> ?
17:31:59 <Piet> Yeah, grammar feedback is good
17:32:15 <david-lyle> question two, "you company"
17:32:36 <Piet> Also, want to make sure the definitions for the panels are accurate.
17:32:37 <david-lyle> question four "the the description"
17:32:46 <Piet> k
17:32:53 <david-lyle> plus tense and other things on 4
17:33:07 <Piet> k
17:33:30 <Piet> Kind of relief its a pre-study
17:34:43 <david-lyle> last question end with period on 1st page
17:35:36 <Piet> Note that I can't make changes to the pre-study because it's active, but will update for final one
17:35:38 <krotscheck> Memo to self. Never accidentally hit the back button
17:37:53 <Piet> Does that clear the results?
17:38:07 <krotscheck> Yep.
17:38:13 <krotscheck> Well, the work that I did is gone.
17:38:29 <krotscheck> Also, I kindof feel like some of these have tasks for Ops people and task for users.
17:38:34 <Piet> Wow - that's fun! (in a sarcastic tone)
17:38:42 <krotscheck> Like, a distinction between cloud ops and customer ops.
17:39:02 <david-lyle> where are the vpn, firewall, sahara, and trove items?
17:39:03 <Piet> What do you mean?
17:39:30 <david-lyle> hypervisors, baremetal
17:39:46 <david-lyle> baremetal, would be nice because we're about to add that in
17:39:50 <david-lyle> where should it go
17:39:54 <Piet> David - we can add them.  Are they intended for end users or admins?
17:40:02 <david-lyle> it becomes a contest
17:40:13 <Piet> k
17:40:18 <david-lyle> all are end user except hypervisors
17:40:35 <Piet> Michael - any comments?
17:40:46 <david-lyle> can I add new panels in groups
17:41:24 <david-lyle> also missing object store
17:41:27 <krotscheck> None directly.
17:41:32 <david-lyle> or containers
17:41:50 <Piet> You can also leave comments on the Google doc
17:41:55 <Piet> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lk-ohyNRWEpApEVy-jht36V3jMhqMX8gxjU5VBXIOnI/edit?usp=sharing
17:41:56 <krotscheck> I like how the columns and rows are unlabeled.
17:44:07 <Piet> Michael - In the Card Sort?
17:44:21 <david-lyle> also missing the "Projects" panel that currently lives in the Identity dashboard
17:46:17 <david-lyle> Piet, so for Sahara "Data Processing" there are 9 panels in that panel group currently
17:46:39 <Piet> David, wow
17:46:40 <david-lyle> in the Database panel group, there are 2 panels
17:47:22 <david-lyle> not sure you need people to sort the 9 panels
17:47:27 <Piet> David, Let me schedule some time with you to review with Tiff
17:47:42 <david-lyle> maybe just the high level Data Processing group
17:48:14 <david-lyle> Database is more interesting because it's Instances and Backups for Databases
17:48:20 <Piet> David/Michael, glad we go the card sort in front of you before rolling-out to a huge group of people
17:48:54 <david-lyle> it's plausible that if you split storage into a group that Database Backups would be there
17:49:03 <david-lyle> not sure though
17:49:11 <david-lyle> I guess that's why we have a study
17:51:00 <Piet> Yup
17:51:21 <Piet> I'm going to end the meeting if no one objects
17:51:29 <Piet> Any final things to discuss?
17:52:56 <Piet> ok - have an awesome couple of weeks until we meet again!
17:53:09 <Piet> #endmeeting