14:04:52 #startmeeting uc 14:04:53 Meeting started Mon Feb 12 14:04:52 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zioproto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:04:54 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:04:56 The meeting name has been set to 'uc' 14:05:12 #chair shamal jamesmcarthur aprice 14:05:13 Warning: Nick not in channel: shamal 14:05:14 Current chairs: aprice jamesmcarthur shamal zioproto 14:05:15 o/ 14:05:23 Hi 14:05:23 #chair shamail 14:05:24 Current chairs: aprice jamesmcarthur shamail shamal zioproto 14:05:38 so guys, rollcall 14:06:03 o/ 14:06:05 mmm sorry aprice , guys is not appropriate. I would say "so folks" !!! 14:06:15 Hi 14:06:17 no worries :) 14:06:19 I have to improve my english :) 14:06:33 hello mrhillsman 14:06:38 #chair mrhillsman 14:06:39 Current chairs: aprice jamesmcarthur mrhillsman shamail shamal zioproto 14:07:25 agenda #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee 14:07:45 #topic Update on election process 14:07:55 Hey folks 14:07:57 sorry I was running late 14:08:08 I counted about 5 to 7 people running for the elections, right ? 14:08:13 yes 14:08:14 hello VW 14:08:19 #chair VM 14:08:19 we got a couple more this weekend 14:08:20 Warning: Nick not in channel: VM 14:08:21 Current chairs: VM aprice jamesmcarthur mrhillsman shamail shamal zioproto 14:08:27 #chair VW 14:08:27 Current chairs: VM VW aprice jamesmcarthur mrhillsman shamail shamal zioproto 14:08:39 yes, i think there are 5 candidates iirc 14:08:49 6 i believe, as of yesterday 14:08:58 Do we have a list published somewhere ? 14:08:59 I think everyone made it in before the deadline 14:09:01 with Kevin Carter 14:09:05 yeah, there are 6 14:09:18 jamesmcarthur: +1 14:10:31 Ping 14:10:35 We had a list of 3 friday. We need to circle back with Tim/Shilla today. Get them to add the new folks and send out the poll 14:11:39 VW: +1 14:12:07 what needs to be done ? 14:12:45 #action VW email election chairs with list of candidates and ask them to load them in as choices, open the poll and kick off the election 14:12:51 the poll will have the list of AUCs in it, correct 14:12:59 and it will email out the "ballots"? 14:13:04 Melvin Hillsman, Yih Leong Sun, James Page, Amy Marrich, Joseph Sandoval, Kevin Carter << total list of candidates 14:13:44 I'll pull a fresh AUC list and send it over to you for review, VW 14:13:48 VW as i understand it 14:14:53 cool - go ahead and copy Tim/Shilla on that jamesmcarthur 14:15:00 just to cut out the middleman 14:15:13 roger that 14:15:49 we need to add the wg/team leaders as well to make sure there are not any folks we miss 14:16:01 iirc it happened last time 14:17:17 Yep... also does SIG qualify for AUC? 14:17:36 #action Jimmy to send AUC list to Tim Bell, Shilla Saebi, and VW 14:17:45 easiest to just give you the leaders of those to cc? 14:17:59 I *think* we determined last time that we weren't going to mix up the process this go round shamail 14:18:06 I think we agreed during the prior meeting that SIG does not qualify for AUC 14:18:10 but that there may be something to explore thre 14:18:16 Thanks VW 14:18:30 Missed the last meeting 14:18:41 it takes us down the bigger/messier road of SIG governance :D 14:18:48 correct me if i am wrong, in addition to that, we add wg/team leaders even if they have moved over to a SIG? 14:18:50 Yeppp 14:19:36 mrhillsman: +1 since they were a WG/team during the last 6 months 14:20:35 are we all set? should we step to the next point into the agenda ? 14:20:46 Teams that moved more than 6 months ago would be in a gray area 14:21:10 if everyone agrees 14:21:51 i can take action to email all of them, explain the situation, and ask for any AUC folks they think they have 14:22:12 Thanks 14:22:15 OK for me 14:22:16 sounds good 14:22:25 keep jamesmcarthur and the chairs in the loop 14:22:37 ++ 14:22:39 #action mrhillsman email wg/team leaders asking for AUCs 14:22:42 ++ 14:23:48 anything else ? 14:24:36 nope 14:24:40 not from me 14:24:54 good here 14:25:06 #topic Meetings on 1st, 2nd, 3rd...vs Even/Odd (carry over from last week) 14:25:44 No idea about this 14:25:59 so, mrhillsman put this on last week. Basically, the discussion was around changing the verbiage on the wiki pages, etc to make the meeting time more clear 14:26:03 expect that for me is impossible to attend out of business hours now that my baby walks and I have to chase her 14:26:06 all seemed in agreement, but not enough of us to vote 14:26:30 I missed last meeting that was at 19:00 in my timezone 14:26:38 mobile device + IRC client + strong tape = problem solved zioproto :) 14:26:39 is impossible for me when I am at home to work :( 14:26:47 The only challenge would be to keep eavesdrop in sync 14:26:48 VW: :O 14:26:50 yeah, so instead of saying even/odd, 1,3,5 1800 2,4 1400 instead of the even/odd 14:27:07 I think it only understands odd/even? 14:27:29 just to whatever works for the strongest attendance 14:27:44 maybe it would make sense to see who wins the elections and accomodate the meeting times for the new group 14:27:47 Ah 14:28:09 I guess I am the only one in a non-US timezone in the all group 14:28:17 at the moment 14:28:48 Let’s vote? 14:28:52 so, to be clear - we aren't looking to change times. Just changing how we advertise 14:29:05 Understood 14:29:07 but to shamail's point, does tooling support that 14:29:14 yeah, no timezone change 14:29:30 we can hold off vote, let me as real quick 14:29:52 It could be accomplished with multiple entries I think 14:30:34 But +1 to verification 14:32:46 are we waiting for voting something or we are just stucked in the conversation ? 14:33:11 waiting for verification, code supports an adhoc option 14:33:39 WEEK_COUNTS = {'weekly': 2, 'biweekly-even': 1, 'biweekly-odd': 1, 'adhoc': 0} - so let me check, it is not a critical thing 14:33:57 we can move on if no objections 14:34:14 Sounds good, thanks for checking 14:34:18 ++ 14:35:53 OK 14:36:10 #topic UC planning session at PTG 14:36:38 I worked today a little bit on the google doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wu_tKwogCvirDV3kd4YkWa4bWb_UMT4j4llle6j5MRg/edit?usp=sharing 14:36:51 trying to get this done today, with the summary of the email threads 14:37:01 and a proposal for the mini-survey 14:37:10 so that we can circulate it before the PTG 14:37:14 sounds good 14:37:25 you are doing better than I am on the doc 14:37:30 there is a doc here (https://docs.google.com/document/d/19DhGbvO-WfQKG5MJEUqQ2xfVBFZYjOR8H7JvfQNHUA0/edit) that has PTG discussion topics 14:38:15 perhaps we could merge the two? 14:38:52 yes please 14:38:54 there's quite a bit on the release cycle one, maybe link to it from planning doc 14:38:56 #toomanylinks 14:38:57 not against either 14:40:35 merge or link? 14:40:52 jamesmcarthur: well this document I am working on is about the wider LTS topic 14:40:54 I would link it 14:40:58 to the PTG document 14:41:13 +1 14:41:24 yes - that sounds good - link zioproto's doc to the one jamesmcarthur called out 14:41:26 how do we do the mini-survey ? Once we have agreement on the questions we should ask Foundation Stuff ? 14:41:30 Staff ? 14:42:00 Ping aprice 14:42:03 :) 14:42:03 We should put it out on the operators mailing list. 14:42:05 i linked them both :) 14:42:19 because times are short is it ok if I ping you UC member on this IRC channels also out of meeting times, for quick feedback ? 14:42:27 And do some promotion around getting as many operators as possible to take the survey 14:42:29 in the past we have used Survey Monkey for surveys like this. jamesmcarthur and I can help with that piece. 14:42:44 thanks ! 14:42:46 ping here + email i think zioproto 14:42:57 mrhillsman: OK ! 14:43:58 what we have more for the PTG ? 14:43:58 yes - two pronged approach please. I actually don't have a bouncer set up for freenode 14:44:02 * VW judges himself harshly 14:44:34 time check: 15 minutes left 14:44:45 were we able to get any idea of ambassadors able to attend (even if remotely)? 14:45:00 I’m going to send an email in 45 min to Ashlee 14:45:04 Sorry for the delay! 14:45:16 cool, thx shamail 14:45:18 Re: Ambassadors 14:45:25 I’ll copy everyone 14:45:48 next week maybe we can create proper agenda? 14:46:36 or this week and review next? 14:46:53 i can take action if it makes sense 14:47:03 I roughed one out already 14:47:07 but please edit 14:47:09 just clean up what we have already basically, make it a little more structure 14:47:09 :) 14:47:10 ok cool 14:47:26 it's hard to predict what will make it through one meeting to the next 14:47:34 nothing more from me zioproto on ptg 14:47:47 me either 14:47:52 sorry VW, i meant for ptg 14:48:01 oh 14:48:02 cool 14:48:04 your agenda work for UC meetings are good hehe 14:48:10 well - feel free to edit the one for this meeting too :P 14:48:15 ++ 14:49:39 #topic Ops midcycle update 14:51:25 things look to be all done for tokyo, conversation has started regarding openstack days nordic, information has been provided to their event team on "minimum requirements" 14:51:49 yeah, i don't think they'll be able to meet those minimum requirements 14:51:52 i believe they have a meeting on the 20th to discuss them, jamesmcarthur has been graciously liasioning 14:51:59 3 rooms for 2 days is a big ask 14:52:00 yep - I'm sure we'll discuss the regionality of 2H 2018 meetup tomorrow 14:52:21 I'm discussing it with lsell and we're trying to come up with some alternatives in the event that doesn't work out. 14:52:31 So stand by for an update in the next couple of weeks :) 14:53:31 ++ 14:54:54 groovy 14:55:05 time check: 5 minutes left 14:55:20 #topic Other business 14:56:06 One thing I have added to the agenda for the PTG is the user survey. 14:56:21 yes! 14:56:40 We brought it up at the Sydney Summit, but we are looking to move to one promotion cycle / report this year, so I want to make sure that yall are fully up to date as well as the new members once they are elected. 14:57:39 great ! :) 14:57:44 sounds like a plan 14:57:54 Looking forward to discussing 14:58:11 ++ 14:58:13 user survey is important. We should not forget to add the question about the Web Interface technology used for Openstack 14:58:33 To get real data on the feeling that Horizon is not widely adopted 14:58:35 also, before we run out of time. I'm assuming we are canceling the IRC meeting on the 26th. Since some of us will be in the all day joint meeting 14:58:45 ++ 14:58:47 ++ 14:59:01 zioproto: I will follow up with you on the user survey question 14:59:17 thanks ! 14:59:33 great! 14:59:37 * VW edits wikis 14:59:40 So folks, that's all for today ? can we close up here ? :) 14:59:42 Nothing else from my end 14:59:48 ttyl 14:59:54 thx for chairing zioproto 15:00:02 #endmeeting