14:00:03 #startmeeting trove 14:00:04 Meeting started Wed Feb 13 14:00:03 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dkrol. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:05 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:08 The meeting name has been set to 'trove' 14:00:12 Hello All 14:08:50 Hello 14:08:54 Sorry for late 14:09:03 hi 14:09:25 dkrol: Are you there? :) 14:09:25 sorry for being late :) 14:09:38 hi bzurkowski 14:10:47 Let's wait a short while 14:11:00 Hello, I'm very happy you found time to come 14:11:12 dkrol: Hello Dariusz 14:11:29 Great to have you in the meeting 14:11:32 nice to see you Dariusz :) 14:11:49 Are we waiting for anyone else? 14:11:58 Hi 14:12:08 Hello 14:12:15 I think we can start 14:12:46 Ok 14:12:50 #topic documentation 14:13:26 We can start with documentation 14:14:05 no update from my side, I will try to spend some time next week 14:14:45 Ok, in the meantime I've made two commits regarding documentation 14:15:31 But it seems you didn't see it 14:16:09 They are related to existing documentation 14:16:28 Please take a look in the spare time 14:16:31 dkrol: I was starting reviewing this change but I was interrupted by something 14:16:34 I only noticed their existence :) create-db and user management 14:16:44 I will back to the topic once I will found some time 14:17:13 It would be nice since there is not so much progress lately 14:17:42 #topic vagrant trovestack 14:17:44 as I saw there are just some minor issues like typos 14:17:57 I will try send my remarks in this week 14:18:03 What did happen with this topic? 14:18:15 This would be great 14:18:55 I want to create Vagrant file for newcomers 14:19:12 it is almost done, I have created new change 14:19:28 I remember we had this discussion some time ago 14:19:38 yeah 14:19:42 https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/trove+status:open 14:19:57 sorry, this one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636435/ 14:20:25 it is working but I still need some time for improvements and tests 14:20:54 I'm expecting it will be finished soon 14:20:55 Sure thing 14:21:11 I'm happy you decided to release it 14:21:36 any comments even on this stage are wolcome 14:21:42 Ok 14:21:50 #topic plans 14:22:01 My last topic today are plans 14:22:45 From stackanalytics it seems we didn't have so much work done this year 14:23:50 I had some discussions with people interesting in trove but they are worried about secuiryt and ddos when using shared abbitmq 14:24:29 I would like to say we can work on it and investigate the Octavia way of communication 14:25:09 But I'm not sure if we will be able to do it based on activity in the project 14:25:33 So I'm wondering what are your thoughts about this? 14:26:01 do we know how much work it is? 14:26:16 No we don't 14:26:39 Did you watch the video about guest communication I sent some time ago? 14:26:50 lets start investigate how much time we need spend 14:27:00 Which one? 14:27:05 based on this knowagle we can decide abut future steps 14:27:24 #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzvcKlt3Lx8 14:27:30 "OpenStack Message Bus Security with Trove Database-as-a-Service" 14:27:57 Yes, I've shared it with you 3 meetings ago :) 14:28:34 No 14:28:38 I shared it with you :) 14:29:11 But still haven't found time to watch it 14:29:19 Have you? 14:29:21 Investigation sounds great 14:29:59 I'm just worried there is not so much going on in the project right now 14:30:26 And I'm not sure what is the future of the project in 3 months 14:31:19 So I would like to ask what plans do you have regarding trove? 14:31:34 I am also worried 14:31:49 For the last couple of weeks I didn't have time to work on the project 14:32:03 Even doing reviews was troublesome 14:32:20 But there is a good news from my side 14:33:36 We promised to upstream our internal changes 14:34:17 Many months ago 14:34:28 We? 14:35:00 I mean, Samsung :) 14:35:22 I saw you didn't have time and this is troublesome for me as you are core contributors 14:36:09 It seems that finally the time has come to start upstreaming the changes 14:36:21 So what will happen with that promise? 14:36:54 Any road map for it? 14:37:01 From the middle of February we will have the first person to upstream the changes full-time 14:37:17 It is already approved 14:38:01 And near that time I will manage to find more time on contribution 14:38:49 However, we must take into account that the person is new in the project and must be introduced 14:38:57 This is good news indeed but how about your involvement in community work? 14:39:50 For now I can only handle reviews 14:40:26 Stein release is in April. Do you have any plans for continuing to trove afterwards? 14:41:24 Well 14:42:00 Recently I spend much time on writing a scientific paper for my PhD 14:42:05 It is time consuming 14:42:06 You know ;) 14:42:37 But after I publish it I hope to find more time on the contribution 14:43:16 I know it too well and I know how important it is. That why I'm worried about the project :) 14:43:28 What is worth mentioning 14:43:53 Trove takes a part in the paper 14:44:06 Fingers crossed 14:44:22 How about the rest of the team? 14:44:58 hard to say how will look next weeks 14:45:47 internally we will be involved in other project which is not related to Trove 14:45:58 Hmmm.... I see 14:46:28 but I want to stay in with Torve upstream and help with development 14:46:34 And Cezary? 14:46:55 Cezary has been moved to this project with me 14:47:04 dokrol: I am also involved in the project mpiwowarczy mentioned :) 14:47:08 only Bartosz stays with trove 14:47:51 the problem is time, not wishes, unfortunatelly :) 14:48:15 So you will not work on trove anymore? 14:48:35 Time is always the biggest problem :) 14:49:33 I would not declare yes/no, but due to priorities, "you know" :)... 14:50:08 :) 14:50:14 Thanks for the info 14:50:28 That way all from my side 14:50:39 Do you have anything else to add? 14:50:47 What are your plans Dariusz? 14:50:59 What do you think about project future? 14:51:55 In the last months I had more time to work on trove then before 14:52:26 Yes, we all saw your activity 14:52:36 So I was very happy with new contributions, even if they were related to doxumentatir 14:53:28 As I said before, continuous contribution is the key to the project success 14:53:50 Without it is will not survive 14:53:56 Let's do not lose hope 14:54:11 The next 3 months will clarify what the future is 14:54:45 One person upstreaming full-time from mid-February is very promising 14:54:47 I hope for the best 14:54:56 Thanks for coming today 14:55:00 One more thing 14:55:02 Dariusz 14:55:08 There is a new contributor in the project 14:55:08 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/635705/ 14:55:10 Please 14:55:30 What about contacting him and inviting to IRC meeting? 14:55:36 He seems to be involved 14:55:49 And experienced in development in other projects 14:55:52 Yes, he contacted me and he would like to be core contributors 14:55:58 Great 14:56:16 You are telling us now?! 14:56:18 Let's vote next week 14:56:52 Let's invite him next week 14:56:58 But voting is too soon I guess 14:57:04 I already did it 14:57:08 Your call 14:57:16 All from my side 14:57:30 Let's talk about it next week or via email 14:57:34 Sure 14:57:36 Thank for the meeting 14:57:48 My pleasure 14:57:52 See you 14:57:56 bye 14:57:56 Bye 14:58:05 #endmeeting