14:59:38 <kumarmn> #startmeeting trove
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15:00:22 <kumarmn> #topic rollcall
15:00:26 <fanzhang> o/
15:00:46 <Yao_> o/
15:00:57 <songjian> o/
15:01:40 <fanzhang> maciejjozefczyk you there ?
15:03:54 <kumarmn> he does not seem to be. not sure what happened to zhanggang.
15:04:00 <fanzhang> zhanggang is here
15:04:05 <fanzhang> some network issue
15:04:15 <kumarmn> okay. we can get started.
15:04:21 <kumarmn> #topic queens-3
15:04:56 <kumarmn> I dropped a change to tag the client, as recommended:
15:04:58 <kumarmn> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536893/
15:05:17 <kumarmn> I will tag trove and trove-dashboard later this week.
15:05:32 <kumarmn> Any other changes you guys want to get in as major features?
15:06:10 <fanzhang> no changes from me.
15:07:03 <songjian> no changes from me
15:07:10 <kumarmn> Postgres 9.6 is in. Couchbase 3.0, I could not test since I do not have an amd64 environment.
15:07:29 <zhanggang> no changes from me too
15:07:32 <kumarmn> How about redis 3.2 on fedora?
15:07:35 <kumarmn> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534179/
15:07:41 <kumarmn> from songjian?
15:09:01 <songjian> Now only to determine the ability to install, but can not be verified in the trove environment, because the company's environment is not available
15:09:17 <kumarmn> okay, will not wait.
15:09:28 <kumarmn> What this also means is that the client changes are frozen.
15:09:30 <kumarmn> https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html
15:09:46 <kumarmn> Also it means that there is a soft freeze on the messages, so that translations can get done.
15:10:10 <kumarmn> Hard stringfreeze is coming up in two weeks.
15:10:39 <fanzhang> so no need to merge future client changes in the coming two weeks?
15:11:11 <kumarmn> So, I would emphasize core reviewers not to merge client changes in the next few weeks.
15:11:40 <fanzhang> OK, got it :)
15:11:45 <kumarmn> yes fanzhang. that is definitely how I interpret it
15:11:51 <songjian> ok, received
15:12:10 <Yao_> copy that
15:12:42 <kumarmn> Anything else on the queens-3 topic?
15:13:00 <fanzhang> what about retire trove-integration ?
15:13:42 <kumarmn> What do you guys think. Did all of trove-integration get moved in?
15:13:53 <kumarmn> Anything else we need to do before we retire?
15:14:24 <fanzhang> songjian may be more familiar with that
15:15:14 <kumarmn> You guys both have given a +2. So I can merge it this week.
15:15:46 <songjian> Amrith did that at the end of 2016 years, and it looks like we only need a notification email to be retire
15:15:49 <fanzhang> sure, a gentle reminder, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-July/119825.html this is the mail sent by Amrith
15:16:17 <kumarmn> Amrith sent that notification email. Do not know that we need to do anything else.
15:16:36 <kumarmn> I can send another email confirming if necessary.
15:17:26 <songjian> I think it is necessary
15:17:41 <kumarmn> ok, I will send out another email.
15:17:42 <songjian> After all, it passed too long
15:17:48 <fanzhang> seems better to do that in case of missing something...
15:19:00 <kumarmn> thanks
15:19:28 <kumarmn> #topic core reviewers
15:19:53 <kumarmn> Looking at the stackalytics data, I would like to promote Yao_ and zhanggang to core
15:20:06 <kumarmn> Current cores ok with that?
15:20:34 <kumarmn> http://stackalytics.com/?module=trove-group&metric=marks
15:20:52 <fanzhang> yes, why not :) a big +1 from me
15:21:07 <songjian> agree,Thanks for their long-term contribution
15:21:24 <kumarmn> Thanks. I will give them +2 authority.
15:21:35 <kumarmn> Congrats Yao_ and zhanggang
15:21:55 <zhanggang> Thanks
15:22:18 <Yao_> Great honor . I will do more work for trove project.，thanks all
15:22:39 <kumarmn> Thanks for all your hard work this cycle.
15:22:55 <zhanggang> I am very honored
15:23:25 <fanzhang> BTW, Zhao Chao is very active recently, I worked with him at Eayun, he's kind my team leader, really hope he can be as a core :)
15:23:45 <kumarmn> Yes, I will add him as well. We need to get him to these meetings as well.
15:24:03 <fanzhang> but, I now work at China Telecom, he works for Awcloud.
15:24:16 <fanzhang> Thanks, will contact him :)
15:25:00 <kumarmn> #topic Rocky cycle
15:25:22 <kumarmn> I wanted to let you all know that I do not plan to nominate myself as PTL for the Rocky cycle.
15:25:39 <kumarmn> I would like others to consider running. The elections are coming up in two weeks.
15:25:53 <fanzhang> What?
15:26:25 <kumarmn> I do not think I can commit that kind of time, especially if Rocky becomes a year long cycle.
15:27:20 <kumarmn> the PTL role is supposed to rotate, as per the guidelines of the TC. Any one can step up to the PTL.
15:27:44 <kumarmn> I can provide guidance, if anyone wants to know what it takes.
15:28:10 <fanzhang> Looks like you all leaving trove :(  Really hope we can continue to work with you in the next cycle. But thanks for the remarkable work you've done.
15:29:05 <fanzhang> I don't think we are ready to be the PTL, at least, I'm not ready :(
15:29:20 <kumarmn> I will watch from the sidelines. Not planning to leave.
15:29:46 <kumarmn> How about you songjian? Would you consider nominating yourself?
15:30:24 <songjian> no,seems I have many things as a core reviewer.
15:30:48 <songjian> PTL is really hard for me
15:31:13 <kumarmn> It does not take much. As I said I can provide guidance.
15:31:13 <songjian> many thing to learn
15:31:30 <kumarmn> You have to run these meetings. And then keep track of the release.
15:31:41 <songjian> One less word was typed above
15:31:45 <kumarmn> Drop a few changes to tag at various milestones.
15:32:27 <fanzhang> it may need a LOT experience...
15:33:03 <kumarmn> In any case, you guys think about it. If you nominate yourself, likely that you will be elected as there is not going to be anyone running against you.
15:33:19 <fanzhang> What if no one steps up to the PTL...
15:34:51 <kumarmn> Not sure what happens. Perhaps the TC nominates.
15:36:10 <songjian> It's a big deal, and every core-reviewer should think about whether there is a person who thinks fit. . . We may be able to feed back these results next week
15:37:41 <kumarmn> Yes, the process is supposed to be self nomination followed by an election. I think it is OK if two people nominate themselves. The better candidate would win the election.
15:39:03 <fanzhang> maciejjozefczyk contacted me two days ago, he said about reviving trove, and he also said that ovh may want to participate more in trove in the future. That's why I checked if he's here
15:40:08 <kumarmn> Yes, I know OVH and other public cloud companies in Europe are very interested. That is how fei long wang, also got involved.
15:40:13 <fanzhang> Have to bring the message to him, see if he could do something at this crucial time
15:40:52 <kumarmn> okay, I will reach out to him.
15:41:19 <fanzhang> Another topic I want to bring up is about zuul experimental jobs
15:41:24 <kumarmn> I will also send out a note, un-nominating myself as the others have done this week (matt, fei logn etc)
15:41:38 <kumarmn> #topic experimental
15:41:47 <kumarmn> Yes, I wanted to talk about it as well.
15:42:15 <fanzhang> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536677/ I posted this patch just to test the experimental jobs, as mentioned in the comments, looks like we have to deal with the env issues
15:42:15 <kumarmn> You should be able to do a 'check experimental' comment and get the jobs to run.
15:43:11 <kumarmn> After the jobs moved to Xenial, Luke noticed that the *dep* files were missing from the elements.
15:43:33 <kumarmn> So I dropped I change to that yesterday. I tried it with percona, and percona was passing etc.
15:43:45 <kumarmn> Do you know why they are failing fanzhang?
15:43:59 <fanzhang> From the comments you can see
15:44:14 <fanzhang> I dig into a little bit
15:45:04 <fanzhang> but just got more questions and i was confused how to fix that
15:46:09 <kumarmn> Percona passed yesterday, when I merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536950/
15:47:07 <fanzhang> Yes, i noticed that, but after rechecking, the jobs failed
15:47:24 <fanzhang> any ideas how I can fix that in order to proceed ?
15:48:53 <kumarmn> I can look at it, when I get some time.
15:49:51 <kumarmn> As we mentioned it last week, I think it is important to get these passing.
15:50:01 <fanzhang> thanks so much, no need to rush, as it's a future job in Rocky
15:50:12 <kumarmn> agreed
15:51:26 <fanzhang> when should we stop merge patches in trove, one last question tonight kumarmn
15:54:18 <kumarmn> No major features after this week. Bug fixes should be fine until the last RC, but fewer more critical fixes in the later RC
15:55:40 <fanzhang> OK, get it :) I don't know what to say right now, the shocking news you brought up really hit me
15:56:42 <kumarmn> no problem. I would encourage one of you to run. I became core and PTL on almost the same day. So it is not that hard!
15:57:44 <fanzhang> Thanks again for your remarkable work, pleasure to work with you :D
15:58:15 <kumarmn> thanks. have a good week. will talk to you all next week.
15:58:20 <Yao_> thanks kumarmn
15:58:26 <fanzhang> and ... time's running up
15:58:42 <kumarmn> Yao_ and zhanggang, you should have +2 authority now.
15:59:16 <kumarmn> #endmeeting