17:00:55 #startmeeting training-guides 17:00:56 Meeting started Mon Oct 27 17:00:55 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:58 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:01:01 The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' 17:01:07 hi 17:01:08 hello everyone 17:01:26 hello 17:01:30 hi 17:02:53 hi all, just observer :) 17:03:05 fthamura: hello, good to see you :) 17:03:20 #topic kilo summit design session 17:03:31 evening fthamura 17:03:51 yah, working hard to translate in transiflex :) and have 8 volunteer now, 1 review (plus me coordinator), i post several idea, because the univ, and school, need aknowledgement 17:04:13 ok, i just observer here ;) lets meeting, wanna to know status there :) 17:04:47 okay fthamura, lets lock down the summit meeting time and discuss 17:05:13 so we have #link http://doodle.com/4hp7a89e3geykmhy#table 5 responses on the summit design meeting time 17:06:15 looks like tues 04 nov at 13:00 and thur 06 nov at 13:00 are the best times 17:06:27 any last changes or requests? 17:06:58 are we sure if the two meetings will be sufficient 17:07:24 dguitarbite: I think we are sure they won't be sufficient. but we can meet in smaller groups, too. 17:07:53 rluethi: I am just asking for everyones opinion 17:07:55 :) 17:08:39 i was thinking we go for 45 minutes and then we can agree on more times perhaps smaller groups for later in the week 17:09:04 depending on how cleaned up the agenda is of course 17:09:14 ok, sounds good to me 17:09:24 so we can estimate properly on Tue if we need more meetings 17:09:45 dguitarbite: that was my thought 17:10:23 sarob: I agree, its a good idea. 17:10:32 so are we good with tuesday 13:00 in the doc pod? 17:10:52 sarob: works for me. 17:10:58 works for me 17:10:58 annegent_: you are around? 17:11:12 sweet 17:11:17 anyone else? 17:11:23 thoughts? 17:11:38 I guess we need one more Vote 17:11:44 sayali: ping, der? 17:11:46 that sounds good 17:11:51 yes 17:12:04 #topic kilo design summit agenda 17:12:15 agenda is here #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docstopicsparissummit 17:13:05 #action training-guides kilo design session is set for 13:00 tuesday 04 nov in the documentation pod 17:14:13 incubation, trainer tools, upstream training cood, are the priority topics i think 17:14:20 hello 17:14:23 sorry im late 17:14:31 shillasaebi no prob 17:15:02 take a gander at eavesdrop to catch up 17:15:30 will do 17:15:34 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2014/training_guides.2014-10-27-17.00.log.txt 17:15:41 ShillaSaebi: link above 17:15:48 so fthamura you are asking about university involvement 17:15:57 thx dguitarbite 17:16:08 thank you 17:16:15 welcome 17:16:16 fthamura how can we help you? 17:16:24 yes 17:16:31 they need aknowledgement :) 17:17:03 so, my idea, if they contribute 5000 word, can use the logo 17:17:07 fthamura ack like active help 17:17:17 fthamura: ah logo 17:17:19 yup 17:17:30 openstack logo, with small title "contributor" 17:17:52 if the univ commited to join the translation, they can use "openstack training team" 17:18:13 usually they want to use this effort to manage another univs, sound like competition 17:18:21 fthamura: so the openstack logo is controlled by the foundation #link http://www.openstack.org/brand/openstack-logo/ 17:18:27 with this logo they can "train" another univ 17:18:42 i know, OS Foundation controll it 17:18:48 that why i posted 17:18:50 fthamura: "OpenStack Logo has been provided to the OpenStack community for community building activities, provided these activities and uses are not commercial in nature." 17:19:17 their work will be free in docs.openstack.org/id -> indonesia 17:19:32 i think if they do it for their own training, that will bring more more people become commiter 17:19:46 fthamura: sure i like that 17:19:53 or parent will trust that this is a good univ, because openstack center 17:20:12 we must make sure that openstack docs are freely 17:20:17 fthamura: will the university be making money off the openstack training or free? 17:20:30 up to them 17:20:48 the material is free from internet anyway 17:20:50 fthamura: ah not if they are going to use the openstack logo 17:21:05 fthamura: the training-guides project is open sources yes 17:21:15 fthamura: use of the openstack logo is not 17:21:26 the aknowledgement is because they contribute, but not for training activity 17:21:49 sound like "certified" for the person 17:21:56 fthamura: ack of their contribution can come in many forms 17:22:06 and ceritified for the univ that create openstack center that do translation 17:22:06 fthamura: im happy to explore those with you 17:22:33 fthamura: i just cant bless the use of the openstack logo because it is not mine to give 17:22:46 fthamura: openstack logo is trademark of OpenStack Foundation and does not/is not valid under the license which which the Documentation and the other Code is distributed. It is legally incorrect to use if for any purposes without the consent of the Foundation 17:22:48 with current status, slow to get translation less than 3000 words right now, and 24 + 256 schools wanna to join to make them openstack center 17:23:13 several univ willing to pay :) crazy right 17:23:24 fthamura: however i am happy to discuss options with you and mark collier from the foundation 17:23:30 redhat charge $5000/year for univ to put redhat logo, and there are , univ pay :) 17:23:42 yes, i love if you can help :) 17:24:03 they pay to contribute to translate :) crazy idea, but i believe will work 17:24:11 i cant to summit :( that sad news 17:24:28 right now canonical bring several companies to me, and their staff try translate ;) 17:24:37 quanta distributor, 17:24:42 fthamura: yeah, the current way is if you want to train and charge for it, and use the openstack logo then you need to use the openstack training logo 17:24:48 that use ubuntu as their default distro 17:24:57 fthamura: the info is here #link http://www.openstack.org/brand/openstack-training/ 17:25:14 sarob: I am not sure it is as easy to use the openstack training logo! 17:25:38 fthamura: I would suggest you to write to the openstack foundation via. the mailing list for clarifying this out properly 17:25:48 dguitarbite: there are a list of requirements to use the openstack training logo 17:25:51 unfortunatly we are not exactly experts on this topic 17:25:59 i will 17:26:00 sarob: I agree 17:26:11 my idea to make a team that can translate with deadline 17:26:23 like juno horizon guide, i wish have enough team to translate 17:26:26 fthamura: my offer stands to help directly working with you and mark 17:26:41 because this case, i get this idea 17:27:06 how to email mark? post just in mailing general? or private cc you? 17:27:09 fthamura: i really really really want to get universities involved in openstack training 17:27:35 fthamura: i will add mark collier to your email thread you started 17:27:40 12 univs join the openstack lab right now 17:27:47 thx :) 17:27:54 fthamura: sounds exciting! 17:28:02 but because voluntaire work, they dont translate ;) 17:28:03 fthamura: are you using osbash? 17:28:13 osbash? 17:28:24 what is that? 17:30:05 #link: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/training-guides/tree/labs 17:30:20 no, we use the docs.openstack.org 17:30:30 i just promote 4 area of skillset to school (high school) 17:30:38 associate, architect etc from training guide standard :) 17:30:44 the response is good 17:30:53 fthamura: can you join us for the design session? 17:31:02 but , if they adopt, they want to get aknowledgement that they have openstack 17:31:10 design session in paris summit? 17:31:27 fthamura: maybe i could skype you in? 17:31:27 i cant join the openstack summit this year , sorry :( i wish can 17:31:32 skype can :) 17:31:36 fthamura is my skype 17:31:42 set the time ;) i love to join :0 17:31:44 any time ;0 17:31:55 i am using chromebook right now, so dont have skype 17:32:00 fthamura: its going to be 13:00 paris time on 04 nov 17:32:03 fthamura: we could try to make skype work or even hangouts! 17:32:18 cool 17:32:18 dguitarbite: hangout works too 17:32:22 my hangout frans@meruvian.org 17:32:36 fthamura: I guess I have you on my hangouts list :) 17:32:43 yup :) 17:33:39 my pleasure can join :) 17:34:07 fthamura: great, review the agenda and add your topics #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docstopicsparissummit 17:34:15 honestly, i have a java education network, and around 69 univs, and wanna to put openstack/cloudfoundry inside their program, because we need deployment system , and cloud is good for them 17:34:25 thx 17:34:44 canonical just said, no ubuntu academy, so openstack segment for this 17:35:07 I do not understand 17:36:07 i asked the canonical, if can work together for promoting training guide, 17:36:30 they said no interest or program for that, only mike baker, email interest if there are openstack day event 17:36:46 but HP in progress (HP helion team) 17:37:16 if the training is free, need someone sponsor the team to visit the places 17:38:16 fthamura: sounds like you have been making some great progress 17:38:23 yes 17:38:44 HP helion team said end of january will have an event for openstack day, they love to sponsor, need singapore office to approve 17:38:53 fthamura: maybe i can help as part of the ambassador program 17:39:00 wednesday we have big meeting with HP team 17:39:17 fthamura: we are creating a trainer team 17:39:19 dont know, how ambassador fit in this work 17:39:33 fthamura: sounds like you would fit right in 17:39:56 i think after contribute more, right now scatter work still :) 17:40:13 fthamura: we will have a separate meeting for implementing the training guides 17:40:26 i think title is important for me now ;0 heheh to make these univs trust me and wanna to join the program 17:40:33 invite me :) 17:40:43 fthamura: you are invited 17:40:52 my dream to invite openstack guru to visit this univs, :) 17:40:53 fthamura: done :) 17:41:42 any one work with tien-he team, they use big openstack, #1 supercomputer in the world, 17:41:58 i wish my edu network can link with all openstack center globally 17:42:12 inspur has been here ;) work with me, but the hardware division 17:42:12 fthamura: put your thoughts and ideas into the etherpad 17:42:23 fthamura: i really want to help all about it 17:42:52 I'm here, caught up on the backlog :) Thanks for picking a time for discussions 17:43:01 thx .. 17:43:14 annegent_: cert. what the doc pod location? 17:43:33 there are new regulation regrarding cloud in this country, and this training guide will boom the rural area of indonesia, 17:43:46 this program is USAID program, one of my mentor is the consultant 17:43:48 fthamura: cool 17:44:09 yeah i was going to ask the same thing about the doc pod location 17:44:10 fthamura: brain dump into the etherpad, i want to hear all about it 17:44:10 ShillaSaebi: no idea 17:44:11 we call it broadband plan , esp to connect outside java island 17:44:32 fthamura that sounds very cool 17:45:06 annegent_: okay just ping me when we find out the location 17:45:26 ShillaSaebi: I dont think we need to worry much about the location 17:45:29 annegent_ so i can pass it on 17:45:31 It should be in the same building 17:45:33 i am working to make a openstack box using solar cell, and teach kids to learn what is cloud, and give them scholarship, esp for poor kids that smart 17:45:54 thanks sarob that would be great 17:46:14 dguitarbite sure im not that worried about it. just with the rain and all. i wasnt sure if we had to jump back and forth between buildings 17:47:15 fthamura: so the virtualbox scripts should be of interest for local builds 17:47:37 yes, 17:48:03 #topic any other business 17:48:27 sarob: I would worry more about the cold than rains but is the summit broken between two buildings? 17:48:46 yes i believe so 17:49:11 sarob: can you take care of the pending approvals? https://launchpad.net/~openstack-training-guides-core 17:49:57 rluethi: sorry about that 17:50:19 rluethi: done 17:50:33 sarob: thx :) 17:50:55 any feedback on the AV video? 17:51:17 sayali_ i like it alot 17:51:30 I was planning to add another video for osbash 17:51:42 sayali_ i want to brainstorm during the summit on how we promote 17:51:43 sarob: great :) 17:51:53 sayali_ osbash sounds great 17:51:59 sarob: sure! 17:52:42 sayali_ get your ideas into the agenda #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docstopicsparissummit 17:52:49 Also for osbash I will share a pad to write the scripts so we can cover all the stuff under it for the video content 17:53:09 sarob: yes i will 17:53:09 any other things to discuss before the summit? 17:53:34 i will be in paris from this friday on 17:54:05 i will be hanging out for the first day of the upstream training 17:54:10 on saturday 17:54:23 cool 17:54:28 i have to miss sunday again :( 17:54:35 i will be arriving on sunday 17:54:40 i am waiting for all the recording ;) i wish can visit paris, never been there ;) 17:55:12 fthamura me either, but since it will be 45 F and raining most of the time 17:55:29 fthamura you may not be missing much :) 17:55:56 soggy summit 17:56:03 hehe ;) thx ;) 17:56:24 okay my friends. 17:56:35 get your agenda topics into the etherpad 17:56:51 will do, see ya next week 17:57:19 bye:) 17:57:21 oh and btw, lets cancel this meeting for the next two weeks 17:57:33 is that okay with everyone? 17:57:33 two? 17:58:10 im guessing that some of us may be a bit jet lagged 17:58:10 im good with it, but i will be back from Paris before the 2nd week 17:58:14 true 17:58:33 okay im fine with only cancelling next meeting 17:58:41 CHEERS! 17:58:50 bye. 17:58:55 bye 17:59:00 bye 17:59:15 #endmeeting