15:00:39 <anteaya> #startmeeting third-party
15:00:40 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Jan 18 15:00:39 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:00:47 <anteaya> hello
15:01:04 <mmedvede> o/
15:01:13 <eantyshev> Hello, everyone!
15:01:40 <lennyb> hi
15:02:14 <anteaya> hey folks
15:02:22 <anteaya> so what shall we discuss today?
15:02:29 <anteaya> anyone have anything on their mind?
15:02:55 <anteaya> I just have one thing
15:03:05 <anteaya> next week I will be at the nova mid-cycle
15:03:10 <lennyb> I am waiting for another +2 from asselin on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259083/ , but he is not here, so I will wait :)
15:03:28 <eantyshev> I wanted to ask if anyone has CI scoreboard setup at their site?
15:03:36 <anteaya> if one of you are willing to chair this meeting, then I don't have to worry about working that into my schedule
15:03:41 <anteaya> any takers?
15:04:00 <rhedlind> hi
15:04:03 <anteaya> hi
15:04:09 <mmedvede> eantyshev: we do
15:04:43 <anteaya> lennyb: nice work on the patch
15:04:58 <anteaya> mmedvede: how is the ci scoreboard working for you?
15:05:09 <mmedvede> anteaya: I did chair it before, so could sit in for you again
15:05:23 <anteaya> mmedvede: thank you, that would be great
15:05:40 <eantyshev> mmedvede: I set it up last week, it's a great tool, but it doesn't provide any metrics on CI performance...
15:05:49 <mmedvede> anteaya: but only this one, not the night one :)
15:06:09 <anteaya> mmedvede: right well the night one ends up being day for me in the uk so I'm fine keeping that one
15:06:18 <anteaya> mmedvede: thanks for the clarification
15:06:39 <anteaya> eantyshev: what metrics are you looking for?
15:07:04 <anteaya> my understanding was that it would provide an overview of success/failure of all cis on a project
15:07:26 <eantyshev> I'm interested in something like the correlation between upstream Jenkins and our results
15:07:42 <anteaya> more like what radar used to provide
15:08:42 <anteaya> so if you clone the radar code and go back to this sha: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/radar/commit/?id=f12156a422a39e68f0c41155961b6bf4de62de9e
15:08:49 <anteaya> it might give you what you are looking for
15:09:03 <anteaya> your system compared to jenkins
15:09:27 <mmedvede> eantyshev: we actually are working on another dashboard to get it deployed officially - ciwatch dashboard. We used to target ci-scoreboard, but for a few reasons decided to go with ciwatch: https://github.com/openstack-infra/ciwatch.
15:09:33 <anteaya> #link radar http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/radar/tree/
15:09:59 <anteaya> oh perhaps I am confused with the words scoreboard and dashboard
15:10:02 <mmedvede> eantyshev: and we want to add more stats to ciwatch (which currently has none)
15:10:18 <anteaya> I never know if the speaker is using those terms in the general sense or the specific
15:10:24 <eantyshev> anteaya, mmedvede: BTW, what are prerequisites to become a voting CI?
15:10:49 <anteaya> eantyshev: you need the project you want to allow you to vote +1 verified to allow you to vote +1 verified
15:11:00 <anteaya> so permission from the project you want to vote on
15:11:06 <anteaya> eantyshev: what project?
15:12:00 <mmedvede> eantyshev: yes, normally you need to demonstrate a good reliable record for your CI, and be responsive to fix any problems with it
15:12:53 <eantyshev> anteaya: nova, problably cinder. We should gather some stats for that, shouldn't we? And what is the measure for CI stability? What are the approximate expectations?
15:14:37 <mmedvede> eantyshev: also refer to this doc, it has some good information
15:14:41 <mmedvede> #link http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/third_party.html#permissions-on-your-third-party-system
15:15:09 <anteaya> eantyshev: do you attend weekly cinder and nova meetings on irc?
15:15:21 <anteaya> eantyshev: and are you available in both channels?
15:15:43 <eantyshev> anteaya: not me, but other team members - yes
15:15:46 <anteaya> do any of the devs on either team know who you are, have you reviewed any patches in either project or fixed any bugs?
15:15:52 <anteaya> eantyshev: which team members?
15:16:06 <mmedvede> eantyshev: I think your CI would fail when it should, and not fail when it should not - that is reliable. One way is to compare it to upstream jenkins votes
15:16:18 <eantyshev> anteaya: Virtuozzo
15:16:47 <anteaya> I've never interacted with that person
15:17:05 <lennyb> :q
15:17:06 <eantyshev> anteaya: that's the company we work at
15:17:07 <anteaya> you need to develop some interactions with both projects
15:17:23 <anteaya> eantyshev: which team members have interacted with the projects?
15:17:53 <eantyshev> anteaya: dguryanov and mnestratov
15:18:33 <anteaya> I haven't interacted with either of those people
15:18:41 <anteaya> okay so combination of the two things
15:18:49 <anteaya> do what mmedvede is telling you
15:19:10 <anteaya> but you need to get to know people in other projects
15:19:14 <anteaya> you have to create trust
15:19:17 <eantyshev> anteaya: we don't have the prerequisites for becoming voting CI, but it is always good to know what it takes:)
15:19:28 <anteaya> eantyshev: yes, well that is what it takes
15:19:39 <anteaya> a stable ci and the trust of the team on the project
15:20:19 <anteaya> does any one have anything more on this topic?
15:20:29 <eantyshev> my first question was about the procedure of this 'stability' estimation. I'm going to look at radar closely
15:21:01 <anteaya> eantyshev: sounds good
15:21:27 <anteaya> does anyone have a different topic they would like to discuss?
15:21:35 <lennyb> anteaya: no
15:21:39 <anteaya> lennyb: thank you
15:22:01 <anteaya> thanks to mmedvede who will be chairing next week's meeting in this time slot
15:22:13 <anteaya> I'll read the logs and hope you all attend
15:22:26 <anteaya> thanks for your kind attendance and participation
15:22:32 <anteaya> I'll see you in two weeks
15:22:32 <mmedvede> anteaya: thankss
15:22:44 <anteaya> enjoy the rest of your day/evening
15:22:47 <anteaya> #endmeeting